WEBVTT - Michael Chandler

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<v Speaker 1>Take a little bit longer than I thought. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep moving from setback to setback without losing the

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm fail your way to the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you go through so many setbacks to end up

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<v Speaker 2>see you at the top getting to the top, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not just some escalator that takes you up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Michael, focus so much on being perfect once I

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<v Speaker 1>got to a certain point, once I won that first

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<v Speaker 1>world title, and truthfully, it says so much more about

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<v Speaker 1>how you conduct yourself after a loss, that this is

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<v Speaker 1>part of the journey and when you do win the belt,

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<v Speaker 1>when the belt does come on the belt for the

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<v Speaker 1>Boys with the Boys, it's gonna be even better. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we rolling do we need a clap? Yeah? I round

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<v Speaker 1>of applause for the boys, just.

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<v Speaker 2>All the boys out there watching and listening. This episode

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<v Speaker 2>of Busting with the Boys is brought to you by Chevy,

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<v Speaker 2>specifically the Chevy Soverado.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you love Chevy? Mike who rock? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that right? I think? I mean it used to be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, so hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody supposed to be nodding back there, like, yeah, that's good, That's.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying. It's not the other one. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the I don't know why they stopped doing it. That

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<v Speaker 1>that was like the coolest.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the best little jingle, nice little commercial, rolling,

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<v Speaker 2>bumping in the gravel and stuff like a rock. The strongest,

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<v Speaker 2>like the people who drive them.

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<v Speaker 1>You all.

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<v Speaker 2>The design is big, boulding, commanding. In this truck, turn says,

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<v Speaker 2>have you seen the new Silverado? I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, there's a there's a pallethro of them out there

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<v Speaker 1>on the highway. I actually haven't, so it's it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to distinguish what's bringing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to spot which one's the new one. The

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<v Speaker 2>new one is beautiful. Hey, the best looking one is

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<v Speaker 2>the car Heart Edition. Have you guys seen the car

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<v Speaker 2>Heart Edition? The Chevy Silverado? That thing I almost cursed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I caught myself because they don't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Then almost to curse in the did they do the

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<v Speaker 2>heart like seats? They should do car he seats? Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking inside and are we able to bring up

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<v Speaker 2>a photo?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey?

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<v Speaker 2>While we're bringing this photo towing moving day, Hey boys,

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<v Speaker 2>hey help me out, might bring up Hey bring up

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<v Speaker 2>the thing, hauling, hauling your boat, pulling a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>weight American most importantly American maid.

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<v Speaker 1>American maid. Yes, that's all that's helping out. Your family

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<v Speaker 1>and friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to a dealership near you, tell them the boys

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<v Speaker 2>sent you, and support your local Chevy dealership. Boys we

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<v Speaker 2>have on Mike Chandler. We will get into all of

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<v Speaker 2>the fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Pleasantly surprised that you still wanted to come on and

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<v Speaker 2>do the podcast. I didn't like count you out of

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<v Speaker 2>not coming and doing the pod. Uh, just because when

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<v Speaker 2>I was reaching out to you, I'm just like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know number one, I was telling Garrett on the way

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<v Speaker 2>over here, just like how much of like a pro

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<v Speaker 2>and just your how high your emotional intelligence is in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place. So like when something like that happens,

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<v Speaker 2>like obviously people want to find stuff, like your corner

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<v Speaker 2>wants to find things to tell you. That's gonna let

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<v Speaker 2>you because everybody wants to be there for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because they feel like they experienced the loss with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea. And so when I'm texting you is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude knows like he knows the game. How long

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<v Speaker 1>have you been fighting? Be thirteen years? In August. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you've been in the fight game so long, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it just seems like such a like the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>moment because it's happening right now and it's the UFC

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<v Speaker 2>two sixty two, Like it seems so huge because it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously I know all of us we're tuned

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<v Speaker 2>in watching. Like again I was telling Cody, because we're

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<v Speaker 2>all fired up at the house watching and we're moving.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like when Cody used to wrestle, like being

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<v Speaker 2>on the mat watching him wrestling, and then when it happens,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just kind of like it just takes the energy

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<v Speaker 2>out and you just the moment seems so huge and

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<v Speaker 2>that at that point in time. But it's like you've

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<v Speaker 2>been in the fight game so long, you you like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like part of the journey. Yeah, it is, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the biggest thing. And this is why I

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<v Speaker 1>so to give a little bit of background. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we already planned this to be here. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>did have the boat the belt on ye he said,

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<v Speaker 1>the belt is coming to the bus and that's fucking sick.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you sent me a nice text you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like keep your head up type of deal. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you followed back up and then I said, hey, just

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, like I'll see you on the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were like, you know, I'm not quite sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Okay, Yeah, if you're down with it, let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. But you don't have to feel me out

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<v Speaker 1>like that. The seat was open because I was like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and said something else and you're like, yo, can

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<v Speaker 2>I still come on the bus at one pm?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're goddamn right, like we got to

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<v Speaker 1>see warm for you. Well, and that's I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, man, the old the old me would

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<v Speaker 1>have you know. I kind of give a talk now

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<v Speaker 1>about because I lost three fights in a row six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty eight days. I went without winning a

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<v Speaker 1>fight back a couple of years ago. And I made

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<v Speaker 1>three mistakes, and the number one, the first mistake I

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<v Speaker 1>made was I wanted to hide from the loss. Media

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<v Speaker 1>was calling me. I was up for five of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted me to present an award at the World

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<v Speaker 1>MMA Awards. Hey, come present this award. I didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's phone calls, anybody's text messages, anybody's emails. I was

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<v Speaker 1>off social media because I was just embarrassed, ashamed. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hide. But man, this is where the growth happens.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens, the growth happens in these moments where I

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<v Speaker 1>can sit next to you. I mean a guy who's lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're an athlete. Everyone in here. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if you're an athlete, if you're a non athlete.

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<v Speaker 1>We all suffer loss, we all suffer setbacks. We all

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<v Speaker 1>make promises that we want to make good on. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring that belt home, Like me and

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<v Speaker 1>my son prayed for Daddy's belt every single night for

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<v Speaker 1>the last two months, the last eight weeks, we prayed

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<v Speaker 1>every single night about Daddy's belt and why Daddy is gone,

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<v Speaker 1>Why Daddy has to be in Florida, has to be working,

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<v Speaker 1>has to be training, has to be away from his son,

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<v Speaker 1>away from his fatherly duties, away from the promise that

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<v Speaker 1>I made to him. So I wanted to make good

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<v Speaker 1>on that promise. But the belt is just the piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the twelve pounds of leather and gold that signifies

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<v Speaker 1>being a world champion. But in order to be a

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<v Speaker 1>champion in life, you have to keep moving from setback

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<v Speaker 1>to setback without losing the enthusiasm, without losing this steam,

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<v Speaker 1>with complete disregard to my previous failures, my previous setbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>one that just happened forty eight hours ago. I still

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<v Speaker 1>got the black guy to prove it. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a million you know, millions of people saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's I'm sure there's a lot of people saying

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things about me, you know, eating my

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<v Speaker 1>words and I wasn't that good or I wasn't you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm choosing not to hear those things and just

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward in a positive light that this is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the journey and when we do win that belt,

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<v Speaker 1>when the belt does come on, the belt for the

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<v Speaker 1>boys with the boys, it's going to be even better.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hit the ground running this morning. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a sauna session in forty minutes, just you know, discipline myself,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Tommy, h no, I actually have one here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not put together. We just moved and stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just went to the YMCA and which is much hotter anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So I sat there for forty minutes and sweated it out,

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<v Speaker 1>sweated out the sweat that was in me for that

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<v Speaker 1>fight and then sweated it out. Monday morning, we hit

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<v Speaker 1>the we hit the ground, run and did something for

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<v Speaker 1>my body, my soul. And now here we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, expressing through the loss, admitting the failure, but

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<v Speaker 1>not only admitting the failure, sitting here with a smile

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<v Speaker 1>on my face, saying, Saturday really did end. Saturday night

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<v Speaker 1>and Sunday morning a new sun rose, and Monday morning

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<v Speaker 1>the sun rose again a little bit more painfully, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more you know, a little bit more tough.

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<v Speaker 1>But man, this is It's all part of life, this,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. And that's why people are drawn to

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<v Speaker 1>mixed martial arts, is that is it's a metaphor for life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what I went through on Insat on Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>had a really had a great first round one ten

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<v Speaker 1>eight on two of the three scorecards, and then got caught,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, got caught and lost, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>other guy left with the belt that I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have. But yeah, this is life.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about because before we get into all the fight

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<v Speaker 2>and everything like that, talk about those the next twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four hours after that loss, after you you recollect your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>you give the you give the interview with Joe Rogan, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are the next twenty four hours actually, like, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the sun does rise, and I think this is I

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<v Speaker 2>was telling Garrett on the way over. The reason I'm uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I was fired up about talking to you is because

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<v Speaker 2>this is the majority of everyone's journey in life anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>is failures. Most of the time, you fail your way

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<v Speaker 2>to the top, Like you go through so many setbacks

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<v Speaker 2>to end up see you at the top getting to

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<v Speaker 2>the top, Like it's not just some escalator that takes

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<v Speaker 2>you up there, Like this is.

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<v Speaker 1>The majority of what life looks like is losing. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So take us through those first twenty four hours after

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<v Speaker 2>after the loss, after the press.

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<v Speaker 1>Conference, you're banging your head against the mic.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can see the emotion, like it was it

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<v Speaker 2>sucked watching it and you just know like fuck, man,

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<v Speaker 2>take us through those those first twenty four to forty

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<v Speaker 2>eight hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think I think the hardest thing, the hardest

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<v Speaker 1>part about mixed martial arts is it is it is

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<v Speaker 1>just so tumultuous. There there is always a chance that

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<v Speaker 1>you can lose, even with even if you're a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to one favorite man, we're wearing four ounce gloves, these

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little bitty gloves, and you have these spots on

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<v Speaker 1>your body, you know, the temple, the chin, wherever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be, the liver, wherever it may be, where the

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<v Speaker 1>body just shuts off and says, nope, we're done and

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<v Speaker 1>the fight is over. And I prepared perfectly. I left

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<v Speaker 1>no stone unturned. I did every single thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>possibly could. Lived my life like a champion. From the

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<v Speaker 1>moment Hunter Campbell, who is number two in command at

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<v Speaker 1>the UFC, and then Dana called me that that same day,

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<v Speaker 1>and whenever they called me and said, hey, you're fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Charles olivera May fifteenth for the UFC title. From that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I lived my life like a champion, did exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to do to put myself in the best

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<v Speaker 1>situation to win. So when it's over and you don't win,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's then it's just you know, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the bang in the head on the mic. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was after a reporter named Mark RIMONDI answered or

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<v Speaker 1>asked me a question about something, and that's when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then it just kind of hits you

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, dang man, it's over, Like it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't get this one back. It's not a dream.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna wake up and the bell's about to

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<v Speaker 1>ring and you're gonna get another chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's exactly what we were saying. Like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna let you finish my thought too. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>like lose a playoff game or something happens where it's

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<v Speaker 2>just not and it was the same thing when when

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<v Speaker 2>it was final that you had lost, it's like waking

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<v Speaker 2>up from a dream and that bell's gonna ring again

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<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna have another shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, because I've had those nightmares, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>times I do have those nightmares. Two weeks before, right,

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<v Speaker 1>two three weeks before before the fight, I imagine, or I

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<v Speaker 1>think I wake up in a cold sweat in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of night, like I got knocked out, I got

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<v Speaker 1>choked out, or I got extremely tired, I got outclassed,

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<v Speaker 1>I got just got beat. And you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what it felt like when when the press conference

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<v Speaker 1>is over, then it's like, Okay, now you go back

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<v Speaker 1>to normal life. I knew even even after the fight

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<v Speaker 1>back there it was just me and my wife. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>freaking crying, my cry my eyes out. Yusada is right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost pretty much almost us that guy out because I'm like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>give me a second to breathe. Man, like I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pie in your cup. I'll get it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always trying to get you to take a pissed

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<v Speaker 2>test right right when you got back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, well, I I was in the I went

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<v Speaker 1>back to go see the doctor and he's doing the

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<v Speaker 1>lights and the eyes to check my eyes, check my balance,

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<v Speaker 1>check my concussion, whatever protocols. And he's there and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>hey man, and I'm with you, Sada, you gotta pee

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<v Speaker 1>in this cup. I'm like, okay, well give me a second, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Like give me, give me one second. And uh so

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<v Speaker 1>then he followed me back there and just me and breathe,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I, you know, did the use side of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize to him because I wasn't wasn't the nicest.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you cuss? Maybe? Probably? I don't know, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't cuss.

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<v Speaker 2>You're pretty, you're pretty, you're pretty disciplined with the custiner.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, it's and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's just it's that you know when it

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<v Speaker 1>hits you, that it's it's over. And and that's but

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. I I truly sit here, I truly

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<v Speaker 1>sit here with zero regrets, like I did every single

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I possibly could. And this is just the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of life in general outside of an octagon, but

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<v Speaker 1>in the octagon especially, it's just the nature of the

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<v Speaker 1>business man. You you win some and you lose some,

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<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately you're gonna lose often. I mean, I fought

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<v Speaker 1>the number three guy in the world, guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>on an eight fight winning streak, a guy who's not

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<v Speaker 1>the number one guy in the world, a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's great, he's good. My next fight is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be against another guy who's top five. It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever that is like, I'm you know, you're fighting in

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<v Speaker 1>the upper echelon. You're going You're going to lose, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that was that was just it. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>man if I had another shot, I would probably win

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<v Speaker 1>that fight, you know. So you then you start playing

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<v Speaker 1>you replaying it over and it's like, should I have

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<v Speaker 1>let him up in the first round, and should or

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<v Speaker 1>should I have done this? Or should I have done that?

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<v Speaker 1>But when you did every single thing that you possibly

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<v Speaker 1>could to put yourself in the best situation to win,

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<v Speaker 1>you really can't have any regrets. And and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I can ask for. If I if I

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<v Speaker 1>lost that fight and I was like, gosh, dang man,

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<v Speaker 1>if that weight cut wasn't so bad because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>disciplined with my weight, or if I, you know, came

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<v Speaker 1>in and I didn't and I and I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really train that hard, or I didn't I slacked

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<v Speaker 1>in this I slacked in the area I had no

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<v Speaker 1>I had none of that because I did every single

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I possibly could to win the fight, to

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<v Speaker 1>get myself in the position when that cage door closed

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<v Speaker 1>and that bell rang that I was going to showcase

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<v Speaker 1>my skills and may the best man win. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I said. That's what I always say. I preach it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. You you got to embrace the uncertainty

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<v Speaker 1>that's about to happen. And part of embracing that uncertainty

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that you may lose. Shoot, there might

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<v Speaker 1>even be a fifty percent chance that you're gonna lose,

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<v Speaker 1>a more than fifty percent chance that you're gonna lose

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<v Speaker 1>because you're fighting the best guy in the world. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, a playoff game. You don't just fall

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs. So you just fall into a playoff game.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be good enough to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game. And then chances are you're you're playing against

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<v Speaker 1>a team who is really freaking good, and you're both

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<v Speaker 1>rising to the occasion. You're both rising to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>And then made the best man win, and the better

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<v Speaker 1>man won that night. I guess if you will, or

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<v Speaker 1>that night he was the better man. We could fight

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<v Speaker 1>ten more times and I could win ten more times.

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<v Speaker 1>You never It's just part of the game. I know, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And two, I didn't know it took him so long

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<v Speaker 1>to get a title fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody had mentioned a stat that it's been eleven years since,

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<v Speaker 2>like this was his first title fight, and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>like eleven years for him to be in the game

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<v Speaker 2>to get a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>He signed with the UFC in twenty ten. I started

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<v Speaker 1>fighting in two thousand and nine. So the guy's been

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<v Speaker 1>cut his teeth in the organization. And that's what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and a lot of people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people see the things that I say on the microphone

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<v Speaker 1>or in interviews or this and that, like I'm hyping

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<v Speaker 1>up a fight, and I wasn't hyping up a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believed that Charles Olaverro wanted to win just

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as I did. This was his opportunity when

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<v Speaker 1>he was born in the favelas of Brazil, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like the ghettos of Brazil, and he had this glimmer

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<v Speaker 1>in his eye that he was going to one day

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<v Speaker 1>become a world champion in the UFC. This was that

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<v Speaker 1>moment that he dreamed about, right, you know, and taken

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<v Speaker 1>off away from him. He beat me, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>but I truly believed that I was going to beat him.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when that's when, that's when magic happens. When

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<v Speaker 1>he got two guys or two teams, or two two

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<v Speaker 1>individuals fighting for the same for the same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's got to win, someone's gotta lose, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just then it just after that. It all depends on

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<v Speaker 1>how does he respond as the champion and how do

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<v Speaker 1>I respond to the guy who who lost in the

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<v Speaker 1>championship fight. And I think by just by sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>speaking about it, we get to move forward quicker than

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<v Speaker 1>if we hide from it, shield our eyes from it,

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<v Speaker 1>not answer the phone calls, not you know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden just think that I'm not that good anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>or fall into this self pity, the self perpetual, the perpetuating,

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<v Speaker 1>revolving door of Okay, maybe I'm not that good and

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<v Speaker 1>I truly believe I'm still gonna be a UFC champion.

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<v Speaker 1>It just gonna take a little bit longer than I thought. Dude, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're right, man. Adversity shows people who they

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<v Speaker 1>are because it's all about how you respond to anything

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<v Speaker 1>that happens ever in your life. It's all it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all in your response about how you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>fun with the ad reads. But to get back into

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation about adversity creating, uh, I think Taylor tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>it the other night too. Adversity show adversity. I almost

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<v Speaker 2>just repeated what I said earlier, But essentially, adversity shows

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<v Speaker 2>a man who he is. And another reason I was

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated to say with you because I know you handle

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff very well.

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<v Speaker 1>I am curious to what you said earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>The old Chandler would have not wanted to see anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, been wanted to kind of hide shell away

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why were why were you that way back then?

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<v Speaker 1>And why do you think it's different now? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's a maturation process. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm much more comfortable in my own skin

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<v Speaker 1>than I than I used to be, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I I make it no secret. I was a small

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<v Speaker 1>guy from a small town who was taught to do

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<v Speaker 1>small things and I and I broke that mold. But

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<v Speaker 1>part of that mold, you know. But but I also see,

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<v Speaker 1>like even even raising a child, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up your dog earlier. Like what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>when a dog knows that he Peter pooped on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor and then you acknowledge it, the dog immediately runs

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<v Speaker 1>away and tries to tuck their tail between their legs,

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to run from it. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>hide from it. When my son does something wrong, or

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<v Speaker 1>he when we're potty training them and he peas or

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<v Speaker 1>poops in his pants, immediately he doesn't want to make

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<v Speaker 1>eye contact. He's looking looking away He even wants to lie.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to lie and tell you no, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>when you you know darn well he did because you

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<v Speaker 1>can smell it. Yeah, this is I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's partly human nature. I think it's partly you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we as human beings, we don't want to let people down.

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<v Speaker 1>We have this this innate yearning to to not let

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<v Speaker 1>people down. And I think in mixed martial arts it's

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<v Speaker 1>such an individual sport too, that the loss was on

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<v Speaker 1>display for everybody to see, and it wasn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the boys loss. And the boys were behind me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're behind me, and Tailor's behind me. My team is

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<v Speaker 1>behind me, but it's not their loss. It's my. It's

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<v Speaker 1>my no go to bed later that night, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's it's such an individual thing, but in

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<v Speaker 1>that there's so much freedom because you have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to show people that even in an individual sport, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I can, like I said, I was coming here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not coming here with a belt, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming here with my heart on my sleeve. And I

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<v Speaker 1>could show up today with my heart on my sleeve

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<v Speaker 1>with complete disregard to that failure that I had just

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours ago, and not disregard for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to let it hinder me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to let it define me, because failure is

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<v Speaker 1>an event and it's not a person. I am not

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<v Speaker 1>a failure. I failed on Saturday night. But the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I respond, in the way that I move forward,

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<v Speaker 1>can prove to those that have failed, and proved to

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<v Speaker 1>those that have seen the failure or had failures that

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<v Speaker 1>they can in the future still become a champion. And

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<v Speaker 1>I truly, I mean I was brought to tears earlier

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw my wife make a post and she

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<v Speaker 1>sent me a message and that I am a world

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<v Speaker 1>champion in life because of who I I have in it,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I do have, the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>walked into onto the bus with two capable arms and

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<v Speaker 1>two capable legs, and I get to do what I love,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have a platform to reach people, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do have love in droves. I have health in droves.

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<v Speaker 1>I have ridiculous a ridiculous support system around me in abundance.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are the things that last that that belt

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<v Speaker 1>would have been awesome to bring on this bus but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just twelve pounds of golden leather, and it will

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<v Speaker 1>tarnish and it will fade, and it means a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It means. It means, it means the epitome of accomplishment

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<v Speaker 1>inside the confines of mixed martial arts competition. It means

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm the number one guy in the world. But it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that I'm going to be happy, doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm to be healthy, doesn't mean that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to live a long and prosperous life that will in

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<v Speaker 1>turn inspire, motivate and reach people. So it's uh. The

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<v Speaker 1>old Michael would have just would have wanted to not

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<v Speaker 1>do this. The old Michael would have said, man, give

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<v Speaker 1>me a couple of weeks, give me and that with

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<v Speaker 1>those weeks would have turned into a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have turned into you know, sleepless nights,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have turned into a lot of self pity,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would have turned into a lot of blaming,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would have turned into a lot of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of self deprecating thing, which really, truthfully is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of selfishness. I think I think we also we

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<v Speaker 1>also look at our failures in a vacuum and say, well,

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.679
<v Speaker 1>I deserve this time to and I do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if if I and I know you understand this too.

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<v Speaker 1>If I would have said, hey, man, i've seen a

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<v Speaker 1>couple weeks. You know, maybe I'll be back on the

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<v Speaker 1>bus and a couple weeks would have not thought anything

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Give them a couple weeks, let them, let

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<v Speaker 1>them cool off, let them let them lick his wounds

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<v Speaker 1>if you will. And I think I've earned that, But

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<v Speaker 1>I also know it does sometimes come from a a

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<v Speaker 1>selfishness too, thinking that all of these things and these

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.720
<v Speaker 1>losses happen inside of a vacuum, and and they these

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<v Speaker 1>weren't These things happened to us instead of for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I truly believe that this loss happened for me,

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<v Speaker 1>so that this this chapter of this journey. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>can close this chapter of the first World title. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>now it was a loss, and now I get to

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<v Speaker 1>build myself back up, and I get to have some

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<v Speaker 1>amazing fights, and I get to have that next chapter,

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<v Speaker 1>which will be winning the UFC title, I think eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the old Michael would have would have

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<v Speaker 1>ran from it. The old Michael would have would have

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<v Speaker 1>shielded himself from it and thought that Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I just block everything out, that's where the real

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<v Speaker 1>healing can happen, or until I win again, or until

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<v Speaker 1>I went again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I know a lot of times people want

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<v Speaker 2>to get back to the spot where they're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously comfortable. Well that's and that's the hard because there's

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<v Speaker 2>insecurity that comes with not wanting to face certain certain

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<v Speaker 2>truths and stuff with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the hardest part about mixed martial arts. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you brought your brother up earlier. I mean, obviously most

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<v Speaker 1>of the boys know. I wrestled in high school, wrestled

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>in college, and that was that was the best part

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>about wrestling. If you lost on Wednesday, you got an

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to weigh in again Thursday or Friday or Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get back in the wind column. I'm not

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 1>going to get be able to get back in the

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<v Speaker 1>wind column and get my hand raised and said that

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<v Speaker 1>UFC octagon until you know, I don't know, November, December, January,

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<v Speaker 1>so there there's going to be months and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait that long. I can't I can't wait that long

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Okay, I'll get back on the winning track

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>back then, because my next training session will immediately become okay,

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>either I failed completely or I was successful today. And

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<v Speaker 1>the old Michael focus so much on being perfect. Once

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I got to a certain point, once I won that

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<v Speaker 1>first world title, once I got to that number three

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, number five in the world, once I

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<v Speaker 1>got that world ranking, I focus so much on being

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<v Speaker 1>perfect because that's what I thought a world champion was,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I thought an the athlete at the highest

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<v Speaker 1>level was. But truthfully, we're all human beings, We're all

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.520
<v Speaker 1>flawed individuals. We will have we will suffer losses, we

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.640
<v Speaker 1>will suffer setbacks, and truthfully, it says so much more

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>about how you conduct yourself after a loss than it

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<v Speaker 1>would if I came here on the belt and on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus with the belt. And not that I trust me,

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but always I wish I had the belt. Oh, I

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:55.480
<v Speaker 1>mean I wish I won. But but now it gives

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<v Speaker 1>us an opportunity to talk about how do where do

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>we go from here? How do we move forward? Or

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>from here? And luckily I've been here before, and I've

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>been and I've battled back from worse than losing to

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>number three guy in the world. In a UFC title fight.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of great things that came from this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think my response moving forward will do more

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>for my legacy, for the future, accolades, for the support system,

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>for the boys, for the following, for the everything than

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>even the wind. You know. And I still got this.

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>This story is far from being over. Is what is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of next for you? You mentioned November, December, January, February.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's gonna be that long until you're able

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>to get back in the ring. I think, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had a heck of a year, man,

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you have had a year.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's been a whirlwind. We came in

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<v Speaker 2>hot man, because you had to be ready for the

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>fight that you didn't end up fighting in. That was

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<v Speaker 2>one step, which is obviously, you know, a great move

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<v Speaker 2>by everybody's part.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a full training camp. Yeah, it did

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<v Speaker 1>a full training camp for that opportunity, which was just

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.960
<v Speaker 1>a backup role. And then I did another full training

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<v Speaker 1>camp for January, and then another full training camp for May,

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and now here we are May seventeenth, and uh, you know,

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>halfway through the year, so I probably I'll probably be

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>here in Nashville for a solid two months. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back to Florida. I have a home

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>down in Florida now, So it's much like yeah, no,

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.399
<v Speaker 1>well it was. It was a mandatory. It was a

0:26:22.480 --> 0:26:25.639
<v Speaker 1>mandatory situation. Like I was doing the VRBO thing, and

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>then I had a book a VRBO and book a

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 1>rental car, and now I just I'm gonna have my

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>own life in Florida because you got your team and

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:33.479
<v Speaker 1>you're set up down there. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I have my gym here obviously, Nashville, MMA, and we can,

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>we can train, and we can. There's the UFC call

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, man, they're just calling and checking in, calling

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<v Speaker 1>I I love I love my career, I love Bellator,

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<v Speaker 1>I love fighting for them. But the ufc IS is

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<v Speaker 1>a special special organization. The people that they have the

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<v Speaker 1>level at which they operate, the security staff, the operations staff.

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<v Speaker 1>They are just high functioning individuals. Man. They run the

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<v Speaker 1>company and they invest in the company. They invest in

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<v Speaker 1>the people like they're trying to take over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I love about them, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm so equally yoked with them. So

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<v Speaker 1>you got to get that phone call on Monday morning

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>after the tough loss. You know, it's it's, uh, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said, man, work boots are on. Maybe

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you need to take a little look, take a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time off, let the body rest, let the

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<v Speaker 1>body like get back to neutral. Cool the jets a

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit. But this journey is far from over. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm your agent on the phone, I'm saying, he

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<v Speaker 1>twelve weeks. What we got boys, Let's get back in

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<v Speaker 1>the ring. Yeah, I mean that's no. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, we'll see you know, like we said, like

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>we were talking, how I came out hot. So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and obviously there's gonna be some some uh some

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<v Speaker 2>time in between now and your next fight. What is

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<v Speaker 2>your routine and uh like body maintenance and training camps

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that gonna look like for you for the next

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>several months, Like how does that?

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<v Speaker 2>How does that work for a fighter, because usually, yeah,

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>you got a twelve sixteen week camp, but outside of that,

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<v Speaker 2>like what does that stuff look like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>So so for me, man, I've always just I've always

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<v Speaker 1>just tried to teach treat my body head to toe

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a professional athlete, and I don't think a

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of fighters, don't. You know, A lot of them are.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>A lot of them show up into training camp eight

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>weeks ten weeks out before ready to get in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>shed the fat, get your cardio back up.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in tip top shape and ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go the day my feet hit the pavement down

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in Florida, and I can move forward and do training

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>camp in shape and you know, lean, ready to go.

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>So I can just work on skills, just work on

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 1>game plan, just work on acquiring new skills. So between

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.719
<v Speaker 1>training camps, like you know, I landed on Sunday, hit

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the son of this morning, so I'll do strength and

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>conditioning this week. My body, you know, my body is

0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>not not banged up. I'm a little bit sore here

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and there. Took a couple of lake kicks, hands are

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>sore as heck from you know, punching or whatever beat

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the shit out of me. Yeah, my hands are sore, dude.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>But but you know, but it's just the little things

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 1>that I can just work around and just keep my

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>body moving because I I truly believe this. I don't

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>think we get old. I think we get lazy, and

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>we get busy, we get really busy, and then and

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>then we justify and then we become lazy. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think at thirty five years old, I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still twenty five. My body still feels like I'm twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five because I've stuck to my body work. I've stuck

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<v Speaker 1>to I use my roller every day, I use my

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<v Speaker 1>soul right every day. I'm supplement. I did not miss supplements.

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I see this I brought Yeah, when I brought my supplement.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I brought my supplements to the arena with me on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday night so I could take them Saturday night, and

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I took them, woke up Sunday morning, I already had

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>another bag ready, took them Sunday morning. Have not missed

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 1>my supplements since. And I imagine most people are like, ah, dude,

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that's only for training camp. I'm good. I'm gonna take

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple days off. Not me. I actually doubled my

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>dose of omegas because I took some shots to the head.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Double tripled my dose of turmeric and kirkcumin glued to

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<v Speaker 1>thion antioxidant. So just like reading my body of the inflammation,

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing some homemade enchiladas tonight. Shout out to breeze enchiladas.

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>No free shade, no shadow. Going to corner pub picking

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>up some smokes, smoke some smoke, some smoke chicken for

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>enchilada's nice shout out corner pub. No free shoutouts, you know.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So like it'll be it'll be a good home cooked meal.

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Like that's kind of feel like a cheap meal, but

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>it's still healthy. Like, uh, it depends what are you

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>putting on the manchiladas. Now, cheese going on. I'm not

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a big cheese guy, so I'm gonna lightly spread some

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>cheese a lot of sour. I'm a big sour cream guy. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>No no free shouts, just anything you say, Hey daisy,

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 2>daisy sour cream.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to the bathroom. Hey, no free shouts

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of that bathroom. Uh you know, so so back to

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>my body and taking care of me. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to I always say this too. I as a fighter,

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>we always think, okay, well, punching, kicking, kneeing, elbowing, grappling,

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>grappling and and grappling defense, those are those are the

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>most important things. But I also think, if all things

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>are equal and we're just as if me and my

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 1>opponent to strike the same and we grapple the same,

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>we wrestle the same. The guy who is the better athlete,

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>who can push for longer and not just push for longer,

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>but push for longer after it gets painful, who is

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>mentally tough, physically tough, and a better athlete, that guy

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>is going to probably be the guy who has a

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>better chance of winning. So I've always just tried to

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 1>become a better athlete, especially between training camps. So I'm

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 1>working to I'll be doing a ton of strength and conditioning,

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>lifting a little bit heavier, put on a little bit

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:27.440
<v Speaker 1>more muscle mass that I lost during training camp because

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I for eight to ten weeks, I'm basically operating at

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>a calorie deficit every day to shed the fat, lose

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of muscle mass so I can make

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<v Speaker 1>one fifty five, Like you know I woke up this

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<v Speaker 1>morning one eighty four. Oh shit, Yeah, in a week

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:42.720
<v Speaker 1>or two, I'll be I'll probably be closer to one ninety,

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, after I put on maybe a little bit

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of body fat. So I'm like

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>cutting from one ninety to one fifty five. So I

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 1>gotta lose a little bit of muscle mass to get

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>down to Yo. That's insane, man, yea fifty five. It's

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>not fun. It's the worst part about about fighting. But

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.399
<v Speaker 1>at what point were you one fifty five? Like when

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:03.959
<v Speaker 1>was the way in Friday? Friday morning and you're walking

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.439
<v Speaker 1>you're right now, what would you say? Four this morning?

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>So you're walking around already twenty pounds heavier? Yeah, that's insane.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>That's thirty A is that thirty? Hey? Somebody checked that.

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Somebody checked the fucking tape. Do we say eighty four?

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>It was eighty eighty car carry the carry the wings.

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>That's thirty yeah, almost thirty nine. And granted I flew yesterday,

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 2>So what are you still fucking doing here? Nobody grabbed

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>a calculator. Just get mad lash out of somebody. Hey,

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not as easy for you like you're you know,

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 2>but I always know eighty five is thirty, seventy five

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>is twenty.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's bad by me.

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I pride myself on math. So there goes any maths

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 2>credibility of fun out there.

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>You know. But if you ask me, you know, one

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty one twenty something to one fifty something, I don't

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>know what that is, but I know what one fifty

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>something to one. Yeah, seventy something, eighty something, ninety something,

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Just I get it. I didn't get it, right, man, No,

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you're good. That's that Missouri education, you know.

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So you're walking around thirty pounds heavier, Yeah,

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 2>thirty pounds heavier ish?

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>How much? How much weight do you gain from the

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>way into the fight. So that was uh yeah, I

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>was about one seventy seven when I did my workout

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning because I always do a shakeout. I always

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>doing like a hard pad session Saturday morning. Sweat a

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:19.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit, shake it out a little bit, go over

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of game plan stuff, and then we

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>fight Saturday night. So I was like one seventy seven.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 1>See you're already up over twenty pounds. Yeah at that point. Yeah, well,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just uh, simple nuts and bolts like a

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>gallon of water weighs eight pounds, and I can crush

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a gallon of water in the first hour, so I'm

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:38.280
<v Speaker 1>already up eight pounds, and then after two hours, three hours,

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm already through two gallons of water. That's sixteen pounds.

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, is it like the old wrestling days where

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 2>you go to the when you're a kid, you weigh in,

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 2>you make weight, and you go to the nearest buffet

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>in town and just load the plate up.

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>No man, and that well, that's one of the great

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>things about the UFC. No free shots, no shots out

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and no free shots. The buffets either about no fucking

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you got but no, you know, they have they had

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.839
<v Speaker 1>all their all meals set up. So I mean I had.

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a big old thing of rice and salmon,

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>rice and chicken afterwards. So I had been eating essentially

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>the same thing for the last eight weeks. So the

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>last thing I want to do, I want everything in me.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Wanted to go grab a pizza or even like a

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>big pasta or something, and I think I did. I

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>actually did have one gluten free pasta that night, no

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 1>free doction, fresh shouts pasta.

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought we would come together and like you know,

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a bond over a memory of like being young, making

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>way you go to the nearest buffet, but you like, no,

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, salmon rice and like, okay, yeah, no, I thought,

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>before you uf title fight, you'und I just wanted to

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>keep I wanted to keep it all all the same.

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>And then uh, you know, and then afterwards, even that night, man,

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>after the fight, I finally ate that Snickers. Did you

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.320
<v Speaker 1>did you hear about the Snickers? No? Like there was

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a so right before I got the phone call from

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Campbell, like two days before now, I guess a

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 1>couple of days before that. We were at an airport

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.200
<v Speaker 1>because we went to San Diego and bre got me

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a snore. No free shouts, but she got me a Snickers.

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite, my favorite candy bar. And I stuck

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>it in my bag and I didn't eat it, and

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it stayed with me the whole trip. I forgot it,

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and then I got the phone call that I was

0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>fighting for the UFC title, and that same day I

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>pulled it out and I'm like, dangdude, I can't eat

0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>this now this sucks. So I had it down to

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>a Florida with me, Florida with me for the last

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>two months like kind of set it up on my like, yeah,

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like you're not going to eat you this is like me, yeah,

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, creating boundaries. Yeah. And then so it made

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the Countdown show or no, it made Yeah, I made

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.800
<v Speaker 1>the Countdown show and it made the embedded show. And

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 1>then and then people people immediately came and like look

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 1>at Chandler trying to get the Snicker sponsorship or look

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>at the UFC shamelessly promoting Snickers.

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, man, that's just a funny story,

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, but Snickers if you want to sponsor

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>a boy, yeah what Haler? Yeah, you know, no free

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 2>shots if you want to be for the boys exactly.

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Because then in but it was after the fight, it

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>was already so late, you know.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hit the press conference till almost one, and

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>then everything was pretty much closed, Like I could have

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.120
<v Speaker 1>got pizza cut out something. I was like, I was like, babe.

0:38:57.239 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>That was because Bree was like, hey, what can I

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>get you? And get you some food? Get you what

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 1>do you want? And alcohols out of the question because

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>I got you know, tk O. So I wasn't gonna

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>drink anything. Yeah, But as far as food. I you know,

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>all bets are off. I could have eaten anything. But

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>then it's like this would make me feel real depressed

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>if I really filled myself with a bunch of freaking food.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 1>So I was like, process, many, Yeah, I'm gonna eat this. I'

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat the Snickers and I ate. I think I ate, like, uh,

0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>another protein bar or something, And that was pretty That

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>was it. And then I woke up the next morning

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 1>and had had breakfast. But Snickers is your favorite candy

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 1>bar by far. That's what I took out of that

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Yeah, but well, I mean I used to

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>have them, like back in wrestling, but all the way

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>back to wrestling, man like, like, just get done with

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.919
<v Speaker 1>weigh ins, you know those wrestling those wrestling tournaments. Loud

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.880
<v Speaker 1>as heck, you're just freaking munching on a Snickers or

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 1>like goober, do you ever have goober back in the day?

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh uh yeah, chocolate, yeah goober? No, no, sorry, no,

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it was the it was the jar that had peanut

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>butter and jelly, peanut butter, jelly, peanut butter jelly. It's

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>called Google. I don't think so Google.

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I thought goobers were like a little uh, little Yeah,

0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>a little ball that you get the movies or some ship.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Goober? Is it called goober? Yeah? Man like that with

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:05.840
<v Speaker 1>on some bread.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's what that's That's what reminds me of

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 2>sounds like it's just called a peanut butter and jelly

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.279
<v Speaker 2>sandwich pretty much, but it's it's peanut butter and jelly

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>jelly sandwich in a jar. You don't have to have

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>a jar and a jar jelly and the bread.

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Do you only have two ingredients instead of one? I

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 2>want to go back to the Snickers. Yeah, no free shouts.

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Top three candy bars, Uh, Snickers, Baby Ruth, Baby Ruth,

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Baby Ruth. Are you just trying to be different there?

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.640
<v Speaker 2>You really like you don't like Baby Ruth.

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I like Baby Ruths. I don't think it's in my

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>top three? Yeah. And then Almond Joy Coconut Almond Chocolate

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Top three, all three, no free shouts to any of

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you guys. Almond Joy, Yeah, bro light a light. I

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 1>mean I'm probably missing a couple, but you're Missingese's. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I like. I like Reese's in ice cream,

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm like a big I'm a sucker for Reese's

0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and ice cream, bro anything chocolate. I'm a big chocolate guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll go into the frozen yogurt, you know, little spot

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.839
<v Speaker 2>get you first of all, you sample the entire place. Yeah,

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you have to say, and you probably sample it again

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 2>because you're like not quite sure. You got to go

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 2>through the whole the whole list, even the surbert that

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 2>they try to put in there that make you feel

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<v Speaker 2>better about yourself. Like I'll try the sherbet and yeah,

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.360
<v Speaker 2>don't like sherbet. Again, you gotta try them all and

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>then you gotta eliminate.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 1>Then you gotta make it to the second round. Then

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you try to sample a few more. By that time

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you're alread getting a little fool but you know what

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>you want, you know what I mean, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>At that point, it's all it's all chocolate for me. Like, yeah,

0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't sample the fruit the fruit stuff. Same, I'm

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>not a I'm not the fruit bar stuff either. Like

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>it'll be like all the strawberries and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm talking all the candies, all the like the caramel,

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 2>the fudge.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best. Boys, what are you guys? Top candy bars?

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:51.359
<v Speaker 1>M isn't a bar?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's a that's a little debay too. Yeahs isn't either.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess, I mean it's a cup. It's

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 2>it's so you're Sayingese's isn't the candy bar?

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay? What about the East the Easter?

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the eggs, the bunnies, that's a bar, the bunnies,

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Reese's period, Reese's is up there. I I am a

0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 2>huge fan of Snickers, big Snickers guy. I'm also a

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 2>big heath bar guy means a sleeper. I like it

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 2>more my in my ice cream. But I'm a big

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>heath bar guy. Yeah, that's questionable. I understand. Stick your

0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>teeth too, right, Carmel, But then first bites man, and

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:35.839
<v Speaker 2>when when you when you bite into the heath bar too,

0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>and kind of like the uh, the aura, the vibe

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that comes off of the bar, of the sensation that

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of goes in your mouth, you know what I mean?

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.919
<v Speaker 1>I love that. No balls, So you don't like this ship, dude,

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't like you don't like? Huh? Candy bar reviews

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be coming up soon. There you go.

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Did you see my mental going in the trying to

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 2>figure out what the taste was like? The boys do bars.

0:42:56.840 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I do think it's a vibe boys bars, I.

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Think them all up.

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<v Speaker 2>When you bite into a heath bar, it's like it's like,

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's like an essential oil feeling your

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 2>filling your mouth like a heath that heath taste, you

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:09.800
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.919
<v Speaker 1>That it's an experience. Yeah, but you don't like Baby Ruth.

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I like Baby Ruth, you know. I like chocolate, I

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>like nuts, I like caramel. Yeah, I mean that's all

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just surprised that it's actually making your top three. Yeah,

0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:25.520
<v Speaker 2>it's all, it's all. I'm just surprised it's making your

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 2>actual top three. And all'm enjoy I get it. You

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>like coconut, you need it. Seem like you've got a

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 2>healthier ish bar in there. I just don't see how

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>it's actually making your top three like that. Like there's

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>so many good candy bars out there, twis We've been

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about twits.

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>See, I'm I'm not the big wafer, not like the

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>wafer that much, but I like the chocolate and the

0:43:44.840 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>just chocolate and wafer, right, I have the caramel sitting

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 1>in there on top, dude.

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Caramel kit cat bars butterfinger. Oh butterfinger? Ah see no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you like all'm enjoy over the what we just named? Yeah,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.120
<v Speaker 2>because see I don't I don't like. I don't like

0:43:58.600 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>what was the one we just said?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, twix? No butterfinger. But I don't like butterfinger because

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's fake. It's too fake of peanut butter.

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I see we're saying, not like Reese's. That's that's like

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter. You could put on a sandwich and make

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but you can't. I

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 1>don't like the butter fingers.

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm a I love the I love butter fingers, but

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:20.359
<v Speaker 2>butterfingers you can actually you can't like have like small

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 2>bites of butter fingers because you take a bite and

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>it flakes all over you, you know what I mean.

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>She's gotta shove the whole thing. Yeah. What else? We got?

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Milky Way? I was never a big milky Way guy. No,

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>we got a soft I like. I like the crunch

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 1>of a nuts. Are good.

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<v Speaker 2>Crunch of a nutun Sorry, I'm in a nut bro her.

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 2>She's like, it's like whatever, you know what I mean, Like,

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 2>just give me hers she's kiss her, She's is just

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 2>chocolate crunch bar.

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't really care, Mike going back to the way and thing,

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>whoa whoa, whoa you ever? I'm sorry, I thought we

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>were doing with this. It sounded like we were doing it.

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.879
<v Speaker 1>The boys are doing bars bro. No, no, go back

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<v Speaker 1>they were the other night. Uh no, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you see him one fight week, they started a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit sucked down, a little bit frail, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>you step inside the the Octaguy, okay, that's a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a very big boy, you know. Charles Olivera was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely taller than me, longer than me, but he was

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>very he was slender. I guarantee I weighed more than

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>he did. But no, not really. I mean we're all

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>all relatively the same size. You know, you're built like

0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 1>an am staff. I'm a pretty good pit, you know

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.839
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Two c's let's talk about the fight.

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<v Speaker 1>First round number one, Me and my brother shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't no free shouts to Cody Compton, but all three shots.

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Because he's a boy.

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<v Speaker 2>We've obviously armchair QB this whole thing. Yep, you know

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:21.360
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. The why didn't you let him up?

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the first round. Did you ever feel

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 2>in trouble when he had your back? Like when you

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 2>were because you did a great job controlling the wrist,

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 2>But were you ever there's times.

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Where I was getting a little nervous.

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, especially when you picked him

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:34.759
<v Speaker 2>up and slammed it down it it didn't seem like

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 2>it got him off off of you.

0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Were you ever feeling a little nervous about that? So

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't because I really feel comfortable when someone has

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:45.400
<v Speaker 1>my back that they're not going to choke me. I

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 1>can shrug my shoulders and I don't have the longest

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>neck and it's like built like a pit. Yeah, you know,

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>so it's like I'm not that easy to choke for

0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the most part. And then when I get hit and

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I get risk control and I get a one on

0:48:56.680 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 1>one or I get my two hands on his one wrist,

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>which is what I did. Yeah, a couple of shots

0:49:00.680 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 1>because he had the one arm free. But but for

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the most part, I knew I wasn't letting that that

0:49:04.120 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 1>bad dog go. And that's when I preached all the

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.080
<v Speaker 1>all the young guys who are out there grappling, it's

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like you get that one that one wrist. A, you're

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna get out, and B he can't choke you. So

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I held it and I had that sucker for like

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>a full minute. I think, oh, yeah, my forearms are

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>sore as heck, and it's not from anything else. Was

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I's probably holding that sucker for dear life. And then

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and then I did. I usually am able to do

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 1>exactly what I did, and he was. He is literally

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the best grappler in the lightweight division, maybe one of

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the best grapplers on the planet, most submission wins in

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the UFS, in the UFC, most submission wins in the

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>UFC history. And I didn't really feel in danger, and

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.959
<v Speaker 1>I was able to reverse it by keeping the keeping

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the two on one going over my head and spinning

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.959
<v Speaker 1>inside of his his triangle that had around my body.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>He had long legs, so he made a figure four.

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Not right, he made a figure four in my body

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>because his legs were so long, which is not an

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:57.560
<v Speaker 1>easy position. He squeezing the heck out of yet, yes,

0:49:57.680 --> 0:49:59.360
<v Speaker 1>but once you start getting sweaty by that time, we

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>were sweaty. Slammed him. It kind of loosened up a

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Then we kind of sat there a second.

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>He threw threw a couple punches, a couple of elbows,

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>but I was kind of just buying my time, waiting

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to explode. And I exploded and then got on top. Yeah,

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>and then you put on a little bit of a show.

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were going to stop the fight at

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>one point. I thought, man, dude, I'm telling you, we

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>were on our feet screaming. Dude. I thought that they

0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>were going to end up stopping the fight at that time.

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And and that's where that's where I go back and forth,

0:50:24.760 --> 0:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>because I think I think if I would have just

0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 1>backed off and said get up, maybe I could have

0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.800
<v Speaker 1>knocked him out. But then again, I'm I get a

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of finishes when I'm on top of the guy,

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:38.120
<v Speaker 1>just ground and pounding, you know, grounding and pounded him.

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I have good. I have pretty good. He just long,

0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>he's at the really long legs. He was trying to

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>keep me at bay. Threw a couple of kicks, came

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>back in. You know, I'm trying to you know, you're

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>aiming for the temple the side of the head, hit

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the ear, jaw obviously landed, landed some good ground, and

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>pound strikes a couple of elbows cut them open. So

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it was a fifty to fifty

0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 1>thing if you look at it and you think, man,

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>what it should have could I probably should have just

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>stood him up. We got about a minute fifteen left.

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I maybe could have finished him on the feet. But

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 1>then again, you know, my intuition says, if I got

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy hurt on his back, I'm gonna be able

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to finish him on the ground. And I've done it

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 1>numerous times in the past, so I don't I don't

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>say that that was a bad decision. I think it

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 1>was a decision that maybe could have yielded a knockout

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>or finished. But I also could have very easily just

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>finished him on the ground as well, but I didn't.

0:51:24.920 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 2>When so like when like Rogan and those guys talk

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 2>about going back to your feet, Like what is the

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 2>benefit of that other than being on your feet and

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 2>being like Mike's better on his feet stuff like that,

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Like is there an extra ben like an added benefit?

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Is it?

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it that he's days and he's shaken up and

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 2>you're like making him stand up, and he's gonna have

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:41.160
<v Speaker 2>to fight.

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Without all that. Yeah, So I mean conventional wisdom, And

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>every fight's a little bit different, every scenario is different

0:51:47.880 --> 0:51:51.240
<v Speaker 1>depending on my attributes and his attributes. But conventional wisdom

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:53.440
<v Speaker 1>would say, Okay, he just got dropped. I dropped him

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 1>with the left hook, hit him a couple of times.

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.000
<v Speaker 1>He's on the he's on the ground, he's kind of

0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>like dazed. I saw the way he was looking at me,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:00.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of was looking at me like a deer in

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the headlights. So to me, I say, I'm going in

0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:04.640
<v Speaker 1>for the kill. I'm gonna knock him out on the ground.

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But I also could have just backed off, said come up.

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:09.040
<v Speaker 1>He would have stood up, probably would have been a

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit wobbly. And if I landed a couple shots,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>my power punches on the feet were going to be

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 1>more effective than the power punches on the bottom. But

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I also had I also had the film study that

0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>said he'd been finished, he'd been finished on the ground before,

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.359
<v Speaker 1>and if Paul Felder can finish him on the floor

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>or other guys can finish him on the floor, I

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.359
<v Speaker 1>could definitely finish him on the floor. So I think

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>that's where I thought, Okay, I can finish him on

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the ground, or if I don't, I go back to

0:52:33.800 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 1>my stool confidence of sky high. He starts to wilt

0:52:36.680 --> 0:52:38.439
<v Speaker 1>and that's where I thought we were, and that's pretty

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.240
<v Speaker 1>much where we were. But he just you know, landed

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>something in the second round, and you know, I fight

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it out.

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then at the end of the first obviously

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:47.400
<v Speaker 2>you went back in at the just the last like

0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:48.960
<v Speaker 2>five seconds, try to getting back in there. But is

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.000
<v Speaker 2>there a thought too, like fuck, I should have I

0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 2>should have backed up and stood up. Not in the fight,

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.800
<v Speaker 2>there wasn't but now now looking back at it. But

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:59.279
<v Speaker 2>that's that's the unfortunate thing about this too. You can

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:00.320
<v Speaker 2>always after.

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 1>You lose, lose. We all know what you should could.

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 1>We could have done this, and maybe it would have

0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 1>been different. Or I could have done that, and maybe

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:08.240
<v Speaker 1>it would have been different.

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 2>So the wood I should have could have such a

0:53:10.840 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 2>such a tough game to play, and I try not

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:14.719
<v Speaker 2>to play it too much anymore because I also I

0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 2>trust myself.

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like I said, I if I didn't I knew,

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I knew I did everything that I possibly could to

0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>be successful that night. Yeah, to have no regrets. And

0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.440
<v Speaker 1>then I also know that I trust myself to be

0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>in the fire. I trust myself, like you know, if say,

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't finish me with that flurry and I'm like

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>hurt or whatnot. I trust myself.

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I know myself to go into autopilot, don't and I

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 2>don't get finished, and I would have been able to

0:53:40.080 --> 0:53:41.719
<v Speaker 2>fight for twenty twenty more minutes and I would have

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:42.160
<v Speaker 2>won the fight.

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I truly believe that. But you know, the fight happened

0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>how it happened. But I don't know. I trust myself

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to make the decision right, to make those decisions in

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the heat of the moment. Yeah, and uh, you know,

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 1>so I wouldn't say that I made a bad decision.

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I think I made a decision, and I think, uh,

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, now we get to you know, play would have,

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 1>should have could if we want to for sure, you know,

0:54:01.600 --> 0:54:03.200
<v Speaker 1>And I don't say that like we should or shouldn't.

0:54:03.200 --> 0:54:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it's all I'm curious, what's going on.

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:07.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm just curious what's going on in your mind,

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:09.839
<v Speaker 2>like as the stuff plays out, because you know, I'm

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.320
<v Speaker 2>thinking in times where I should have made a different decision,

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll sit on the bench or something like

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I should have done this, Like next time I'll get

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 2>to see it. Obviously we get more opportunities to see

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 2>it again. But like I'm just curious of the athlete,

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 2>and you like when you get to the to the

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 2>end of that first round, you're like, I should have

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.040
<v Speaker 2>just stood this dude up. Obviously you're thinking, I'm all

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.120
<v Speaker 2>whoop his ass in the second round. We all everyone's

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.359
<v Speaker 2>excited going into that second no matter what I mean.

0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 2>There was there was two ten eights on.

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>The scorecard and one ten nine on the scorecard, right,

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 1>so two of those two of those judges thought I

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>beat him bad enough to give him give me a

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>ten for sure. So so in that position, when you

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:44.719
<v Speaker 1>get done with the first round, I'm going back to

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the I'm going back to the stool, back to the corner,

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, confidence hide. It's oh similar to if you

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>mess up on the first down, you're not thinking about

0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the first down, going to the second down. Third, you

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 1>finish the drive, maybe you go back to the bench.

0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Then you think about what I could have done differently,

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 1>Like me, that's more after the fight. Now, It's like

0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 1>whereas when I went back to the stool. I'm just

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:06.400
<v Speaker 1>listening to my coach. Coach Henry's in front of me,

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Coach Comed's behind me. We're talking about this, that and

0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the other thing. Keep it simple. Fight's going great, fight's

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>going just you know fine. I mean, at this point,

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the best grappler on the planet took my back, wasn't

0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:19.719
<v Speaker 1>able to finish me. And even even better, I reversed him,

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>did damage beat him up a little bit, was winning

0:55:22.560 --> 0:55:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the striking battle on the feats. I mean, it's the

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>fight was going great. So it's you know, at that point,

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just you know yeah, because and.

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 2>If you end up winning that fight, no one's even

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 2>talking about the first round like you should have stood

0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.759
<v Speaker 2>him up. This is obviously all the hindsight, like fuck

0:55:35.880 --> 0:55:37.560
<v Speaker 2>the way you want to wake up from a dream

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:38.759
<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, is it going to get there?

0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Be redone?

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 2>But in the second round, man, because he barely he

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:50.080
<v Speaker 2>barely caught you, and is it like lights get fuzzy

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 2>for a second, and it was such a quick turnaround

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>that you're just like, I just gotta get I just

0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.040
<v Speaker 2>gotta quickly get back, like you said, and get back

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:58.879
<v Speaker 2>on this siddle pilot before he because you almost get

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 2>fucking out and he just catches you with that left

0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 2>hand to end it.

0:56:03.880 --> 0:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, talk talk talk us through that. Yeah, I mean,

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's all you know, it's it's all fuzzy, you know,

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:10.719
<v Speaker 1>more than anything. But I mean yeah, I mean, I

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember, you remember getting hit. I mean, and I

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.359
<v Speaker 1>can also go back and watch the replay. So then

0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>when you watch the replay and then you think, you

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>try to close your eyes and think, Okay, what did

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>I actually see in the fight? You know, you get clipped,

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and then you're you know, then you're just then you're

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.719
<v Speaker 1>just moving, you're evading, you're trying to you just going.

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 1>You go into survival mode, because I mean, there's there's

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the moments in the fight where you go into survival

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:31.880
<v Speaker 1>mode and you survive, and then you go into survival

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 1>mode and you don't survive like this last one. I

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't obviously, but I've been in those positions before where

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you got to go from I'm either you know, you're

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:42.120
<v Speaker 1>either extreme offense or your defense or your survival mode.

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.400
<v Speaker 1>In this in this particular fight, I went, you know,

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:46.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of survival mode. You're you're fuzzy, you don't know

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>which way is up, your your equilibriums off, and you

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>just you know you're there, but you're not really there.

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And then before you know it, he runs away, and

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like, dang, fights over.

0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, You're like refs right here, and you're like, well,

0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I could argue with this, but I probably shouldn't argue

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 2>with the stoppage because this guy knows what he did.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to make an idiot of myself, you know,

0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 1>because we've all been there before, too, are we all?

0:57:06.719 --> 0:57:09.400
<v Speaker 1>We all have as fans have been like why is

0:57:09.480 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he contesting that? Stop? But she was a getting beat

0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:14.120
<v Speaker 1>up or b he tapped, And there's been fights where

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>guys have tapped out completely. The guy gets up and

0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:18.160
<v Speaker 1>runs away and then the guy's like, why'd you stop

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the fight? And you're like, dude, you did you you tapped?

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You do not remember tapping. You were obviously out, you know.

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>So that's the hard part too, is it's and and

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.920
<v Speaker 1>even and I actually do I'm blessed that I actually

0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>got to get on the mic after the fight and

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Joe came over, because sometimes Joe doesn't do that, and

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:37.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they don't interview the guy who lost, especially after

0:57:37.600 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a t K or something like that that because there's

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:42.160
<v Speaker 1>been guys who are like mumbling and humbling, they're like,

0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're kind of they're still out and they

0:57:44.000 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>don't really remember what they're saying or they're saying talking incoherently,

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>and that's not good for the sport. That's not good

0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:52.720
<v Speaker 1>for like Joe. Joe has like gone back on his

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast after on a Monday after a Saturday fight, like, yeah, man,

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have interviewed that guy. You know, that was

0:57:58.120 --> 0:57:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that was my bad. I should have just cut it right,

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, cut it. And they said, you know, in

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:03.880
<v Speaker 1>my ear, they said, interview him. I just knew he

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>was messed up. He stumbled over me. I shouldn't have

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.600
<v Speaker 1>done that, because that's just not only is a tough spot.

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:11.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, the guy just got his hopes and dreams

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and heart ripped out, but he's also maybe he's not

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:18.960
<v Speaker 1>there coherently. But for me, you know, I was able

0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to get on the mic and I set my piece

0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and shout out to you know, Olvera, no free shouts.

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 1>He's the world champ, you know, and and you know,

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 1>tap hat tip to him and let people know I'll

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 1>be back. And it's you know, it's all part of it.

0:58:33.120 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who you think you might be fighting?

0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't like who would be on your radar, Like

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know people stone around Gaigee people obviously what's

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen after Connor and Pourier fight and like maybe

0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the loser of that or something like that, Like who

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 1>are people that would be on the radar for you?

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Well that would make that you think in your mind

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:56.080
<v Speaker 1>would make sense for you and possibly the UFC. Yeah,

0:58:56.120 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean essentially anybody in the top five makes sense.

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's this The division moves so fast. The

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>sport moves so fast. I mean, that's what even with

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the UFC brass you know, talk to them after the

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>fight and they're just like, hey, man, keep your head up,

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 1>keep working, man. This sport moves fast. It's what have

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you done for me lately? Business? You're only as good

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:16.960
<v Speaker 1>as your last fight. But when your world class and

0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you're in the top five, your world class, and you're

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in the top five, and there's a I've only fought

0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Dan Hooker and Charles Olivera at this point, Like you said,

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.720
<v Speaker 1>there's there's Poorier, there's get Chee, there's Connor, there's Ferguson,

0:59:27.000 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but Neil dry Yush is now in the top five.

0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>There's so there's there's no no shortage of guys to fight.

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:36.520
<v Speaker 1>But at this point, obviously Connor and Poitier a fighting

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:38.520
<v Speaker 1>July tenth. We could see who the winner or the

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>loser of that is. You got Tony Ferguson and just lost,

0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>but Neil dry USh who just came in. Traditionally, you know,

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a guy who comes off a win fights a guy

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 1>who comes off a win, a guy who comes off

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a loss fights a guy who comes off a loss,

0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and then one guy moves up and one guy continues

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:55.840
<v Speaker 1>to move down. So I think, really any of those

0:59:55.920 --> 0:59:57.960
<v Speaker 1>names make sense. I mean, the only one that's kind

0:59:57.960 --> 1:00:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of a wild card is Connor, because Connor does Connor

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<v Speaker 1>does have a little bit more say than than most guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if Connor, if he loses this fight, though,

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<v Speaker 1>if he loses this fight, he's still not gonna fight me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think me and Connor don't. Me and Connor don't

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<v Speaker 1>match up well for him because he's a he's a striker,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could I could grapple the heck out him

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to. You know, like I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a bad fight for him, Whereas if I

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<v Speaker 1>was the champion and Connor won, Connor would go for

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<v Speaker 1>the title no matter what and fight, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>like just like the fucking be But uh so, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Gaetchee or if Poorier loses or Ferguson, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like those Feruson just I mean he's getting old, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean but he's entertaining. Man. People love him.

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<v Speaker 1>People do love like people learn. At the press conference, man,

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<v Speaker 1>he broke out the greatest line of all time, freaking

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<v Speaker 1>Dana White privilege. It was freaking hilarious, dude. It's it

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<v Speaker 1>was like for the time that we live in, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously that's somewhat of a negative connotation, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole white privilege thing, and like, but like the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>ship dude, Dana White privilege, Dana White. He's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you got this thing handed to you. Man, you got

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<v Speaker 1>Dana White privilege, and Dana just and I look up

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<v Speaker 1>at then I'm like, thanks, Dana. You know. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>so man, It's it's a it's a fun group of

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<v Speaker 1>it's I want to beat them all. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>fight them all. But like, it's a fun group of

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<v Speaker 1>guys to be in with. You know, we're we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have some fun the next couple of years. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just hope it culminates at some point with me fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for the world title again. And really all that all

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<v Speaker 1>that needs to happen is me win one, two three. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Membre fights, right, you show out the next fight, man,

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<v Speaker 1>show out, next fight. Continue to show that I'm world

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<v Speaker 1>class and why I'm here. And I mean, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing too, when it's it's it's such a crazy

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<v Speaker 1>game of inches and you're fighting the best guys in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire world. So, yeah, I lost, but I lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the number three guy in the world. I lost

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<v Speaker 1>to the eventual world champion. You know. Yeah, so and

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<v Speaker 1>fight number twenty or I need to fight number fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, no, okay, now I'll fight number four, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll fight number two, or I'll fight number five, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'll fight you know, I'm number four. I'll probably still

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, I'll probably still be number three or

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<v Speaker 1>four when the rankings come out on Tuesday tomorrow. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll know tomorrow, Yeah, pretty much. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>lost to the eventual champion with a ten eight round.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing too, I mean, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, It's not like like if you lost the

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<v Speaker 1>world champion on a ten a first round. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some people out there who were like, hey, immediate rematches

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<v Speaker 1>go Chandler Oliver too right away. I mean that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility. Do I think that's gonna happen. But if

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<v Speaker 1>I got Dana White privilege, I mean, hey, we need

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<v Speaker 1>that Dana White privilege. Baby for the running Beast is

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<v Speaker 1>just a joke. Like the people freaking mma fans are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hate me. This guy we hate from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is why we hate him now tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just scrolling on a Twitter and Instagram and he

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<v Speaker 1>just sees that one clip. Hey, if I get that

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<v Speaker 1>Dana White privilege, and that's all it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well at this point, Saint, you just got to run

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<v Speaker 2>with it, man. You know it's I mean, especially something

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<v Speaker 2>like that, there's there's a little bit of the you

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<v Speaker 2>know thing happening when the world with that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there's also the Dana White's last name and it was

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<v Speaker 2>said by a guy named Tony by the guy liked

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<v Speaker 2>when he Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's all part of it. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the general thread and not even if I

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<v Speaker 1>just take myself out of it, and I just look

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<v Speaker 1>at my body of work coming into the UFC, and

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<v Speaker 1>then what I did. We just got done, Sam and

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<v Speaker 1>I came out hot. I did everything that was asked

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I showed up like the blue collar Midwest

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<v Speaker 1>kid with the work boots on, just like my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I showed up with my work boots on. When

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<v Speaker 1>the phone rang, I said yes one time, two times,

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<v Speaker 1>three times every single time they called, and two or

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<v Speaker 1>three other times whenever guys didn't take the fight. I

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to fight Tony ferguson October twenty fourth, he

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<v Speaker 1>said no. I was supposed to fight Dustin Pooria October

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourth, he said no. It was supposed to fight

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<v Speaker 1>Tony ferguson January twenty third. He said no. And then

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<v Speaker 1>even when I beat Dan Hooker January twenty third, they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to be the co main event against

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<v Speaker 1>Charles olivera February thirteenth, And I said yes. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at Cane Prime here in Nashville. I had a stake

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<v Speaker 1>in front of me. I had a glass of wine.

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<v Speaker 1>Got no free shouts to cap I'm m Street. All

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurants are there, fucking create so and I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>eating my stake right there. I said, check please, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take it. We'll take it to go box. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on a date with my wife. Hunter Campbell called and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you would you do this? And I said yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Charles Oliver eventually turned it down. It was

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<v Speaker 1>it was on three weeks notice. I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>fight Charles Oliver in February thirteen. So these are all

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<v Speaker 1>just the things that have happened six yes. So these

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<v Speaker 1>are the things that have happened outside of this, the

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<v Speaker 1>fights that I've actually had that that I think I

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<v Speaker 1>was rewarded for. That's why I got the title shot.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's you've always stayed ready, stayed ready, And

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<v Speaker 1>the UFC is the biggest and baddest promotion on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they keep things moving very fast in a forward trajectory.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're on the on board with them, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the wagon with them moving forward, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to say yes, You're going to be rewarded for

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<v Speaker 1>it and it and it you got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>good employee first. You know you're a good employee. First

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<v Speaker 1>you get put in a great position. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>in the corporate world, the business world, other sports worlds,

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<v Speaker 1>or mixed martial arts. Be a good employee first, be

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<v Speaker 1>a good ambassador for your organization, be a good ambassador

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<v Speaker 1>for your weight class, and a good ambassador for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you will things will usually work out well

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And I think that's why I got the

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<v Speaker 1>title shot and now continue to operate with the same

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<v Speaker 1>through the same vein that I have since day one,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get a fight well, and then we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>that was that was Thank you, low man. You went

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<v Speaker 2>low with the I tried that little undertoned voice, you

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<v Speaker 2>know at the end.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so good. It was kind of fast. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I try to do a little fast paced voice. Is good.

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<v Speaker 1>You did a solid job reading, like I can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Like to read?

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<v Speaker 1>He just goes in the most genuine Wait, well I

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<v Speaker 1>can read. I can read.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, contrary to popular belief. Yeah, fighters can read most

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<v Speaker 2>of us. It's surprising that you can read and found

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could definitely read about slick spirited ice. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we got?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we have?

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<v Speaker 1>Alex?

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<v Speaker 2>You have?

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<v Speaker 1>You have some stuff popped up? Did we have any

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<v Speaker 1>fan questions? Any good ones? Any good videos? Comments? I

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<v Speaker 1>need to leave in a few minutes. What time? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what time it's on? It's two fourteen. I gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>there by too. Oh yeah yeah, yeah. One one question

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<v Speaker 1>with him and hey daddy, dude, you man, dude. I

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<v Speaker 1>know one day morning took cap the school, hit the sauna,

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<v Speaker 1>did the bus? How often do you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>YMC and hit that sauna? Uh? Just depends, I mean often. Oh. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the sauna just now got back open from COVID. Now

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<v Speaker 1>is it a It's not an infrared, it's straight hot song,

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<v Speaker 1>war dish and sauna and then there's a steam room

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Would love to join you one Dreen Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go bro. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking into going yesterday, but they were closed

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<v Speaker 2>by the time I got home because I drove back

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<v Speaker 2>from Missouri and uh, I wanted to sit in the

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<v Speaker 2>ols on and sweat everything out for the weekends and

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<v Speaker 2>partying hard for the boy for the boy.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, but yeah, I would love to join you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so whenever you go this week, just let me

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<v Speaker 1>know when you're gonna good. What do we have here?

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Jacob Schaffner.

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<v Speaker 3>The boys shout out to go Michael Chandler. So I

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<v Speaker 3>got two questions, one for the boys, one for Michael Chandler.

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<v Speaker 3>For Michael, what's the difference in like a UFC title

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<v Speaker 3>fight and a Bellator title fight? And how was that

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<v Speaker 3>preparing in the atmosphere like in Houston? And what do

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<v Speaker 3>you think, well, you'll change or do something different at

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<v Speaker 3>all if you do anything for your next title fight

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<v Speaker 3>in the UFC, because they obviously know you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be back, no doubt, greatest ever. And then for the boys,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think you'll ever do one of those celebrity

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<v Speaker 3>boxing matches like the Paul brothers are doing, and if so,

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<v Speaker 3>do you think Taylor could kick Logan Paul's ass? Maybe,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe not, but that's just the questions. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 3>the boys, Love you Taylor and Will I guess you're.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad's but see you at the top. Yes to

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<v Speaker 1>see you at the time. Shout out Jacob Schefner. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Man. A great question because I obviously fought the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of my career in Bellator, you know the number

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<v Speaker 1>two organization, and the UFC has been around the longest.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say the biggest difference is I I won

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<v Speaker 1>three world titles in Bellator, fought for the world title

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<v Speaker 1>numerous times, defended the title numerous times, and they were

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<v Speaker 1>in big crowds. They were in big arenas, the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>was big. But this time was different because everybody knows,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you don't know, you're you're kidding yourself. Fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for the UFC title means you are the number one

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the world, no ifans or butts, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just how it is. So when I was stood

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<v Speaker 1>across the octagon from Charles Olivera, I knew the winner

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<v Speaker 1>of this was become the number one guy in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I won, I was going to be not

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<v Speaker 1>just the UFC World champion, but the world champion, the

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<v Speaker 1>number one guy in the world. So I wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>there was that pressure, but there was that confident expectancy

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<v Speaker 1>of the excitement of what it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>had I won the fight, and then really just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've talked about, the UFC is just a well

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<v Speaker 1>oiled machine. The UFC has quarterbacked and championed the entire sport,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire industry, and built it into what it is. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the other organizations there's about three or four other major

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<v Speaker 1>organizations outside of the UFC. They can all just show

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<v Speaker 1>up to venues put on shows, and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a ton of promotion because the UFC is

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<v Speaker 1>putting on so such big shows, touching every corner of

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<v Speaker 1>the globe, putting so much money into marketing and building

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<v Speaker 1>the sport that really all the other organizations can just

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<v Speaker 1>show up and throw fights and they'll do decently well

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<v Speaker 1>because the UFC is building the sports. Right, That's very

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<v Speaker 1>apparent when you're there, is.

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<v Speaker 2>It pretty dope? When Bruce Buffer is just going off

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<v Speaker 2>introducing you. You know what I mean, Like you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in his fucking ring. He's introducing me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's dope, and and and even it even just

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<v Speaker 1>some like you know, I I started watching. My teammate

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<v Speaker 1>was on the first guy on the card, the first

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<v Speaker 1>fight of the card, the dude that was a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>banger fight. Yeah great, this guy named Sean Soriano. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I was watching the fight, and then they'd say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now that this fight is over, let's turn turn our

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<v Speaker 1>eyes to what's gonna happen later tonight. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>was like Chandler and Olivera and like and it's I

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched so many UFC pay per views, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched the pre limbs getting pumped up to watch the fights.

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<v Speaker 1>But this time they were talking about me. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was in my hotel room and in the window behind

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<v Speaker 1>me was the Toyota Center right back there, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of hundred yards away, where I was about to report

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple hours later, to go do handle business

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<v Speaker 1>and go fight for the title that they are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about on my computer screen right now. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was cool, man, it's and Bruce Buffer and

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<v Speaker 1>and they did the they did the blackout completely with

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<v Speaker 1>the the lights around. Yeah, I mean, which I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>on on TV on the pay per views, and but

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<v Speaker 1>this time it was me inside the get inside the

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<v Speaker 1>out gun and and I just I rose to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost the fight, but I rose to the occasion.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a fight. I did everything I could. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel I felt like I was where I was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. Man, Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the beauty of this freaking sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You just you take your losses. You take the wins.

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<v Speaker 1>You never you never you never take the wins for

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<v Speaker 1>granted because they aren't that easy to come by. And

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<v Speaker 1>you definitely don't take the UFC title fight, the title

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<v Speaker 1>shot for granted because those are hard to come by too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I believe we'll get another one eventually, but we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you coming, bro. I know you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go be a dad. Gotta go be a dad. Man

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<v Speaker 1>back to daddy, dude. That's good man, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be though. Hey what do what do you?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you uh you think Dana? The way Jake

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<v Speaker 2>paul Or calls out Dana wife for not paying fighters.

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<v Speaker 2>I man, I I don't know Dana pays me?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so, I.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're we're always gonna complain about, don't we all,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's guys in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to make more money, like we all want

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<v Speaker 1>to make more money. We all and get I get MMA,

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<v Speaker 1>and the UFC is a little bit different because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a player's association or a union or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also just started what twenty eight twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, so we're still in our infancy as far

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<v Speaker 1>as the sport goes. Man, as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>the UFC has champion and quarterback the entire industry. And

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason that we were able to make a

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<v Speaker 1>paycheck whatsoever is because of the sleepless nights and the

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<v Speaker 1>hard work that Dana White and the Fertida brothers who

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<v Speaker 1>started the UFC bought it for two million dollars, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they just sold it for like six billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>while back. Now we're owned by William Morrison Devor and

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<v Speaker 1>just to see the growth of the industry. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's just the way that Jake Paul, Jake Paul

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<v Speaker 1>especially Yeah, it seems too right, It seems too outside

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<v Speaker 1>of anything monetary, like the UFC is like a first

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<v Speaker 1>class in absolutely everything that doesn't have the whole monetary

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously there's arguments for the you know, I made

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<v Speaker 1>this boxing like.

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<v Speaker 2>All the fighters in the UFC get this, But as

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<v Speaker 2>far as everything else in the total package, it just

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it is one of the premier organizations to

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. That and and then the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>too is we can't we can't point our finger at

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<v Speaker 1>our promoter, when really we should be pointing our finger

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<v Speaker 1>at the man in the mirror who is not. You

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<v Speaker 1>can monetize yourself, your brand, your voice, your platform, your

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<v Speaker 1>your sales. You can with with the platform that the

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<v Speaker 1>USC gives you, you can become a millionaire outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your fight purses with the promotion and the platform that

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<v Speaker 1>they give you. Unequivocally, especially some of these guys. Look

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<v Speaker 1>where just look where my following has gone just in

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of months, and I've only had two

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<v Speaker 1>fights in the UFC. And if I want to monetize that,

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<v Speaker 1>if I want to start a podcast, if I want

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<v Speaker 1>to write, you know, I mean I can, I can

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<v Speaker 1>read ads pretty dark. You can that the first Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the fighter and the bloy, you know, so no free

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<v Speaker 1>shouts to the fighter and the brand that hast you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can monetize a brand. You can build a brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can make money outside of just your fight person.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're mad at your promoter because you're not paid,

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<v Speaker 1>not getting paid enough inside the octagon, well take it

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<v Speaker 1>upon yourself to take the the attention that you can

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<v Speaker 1>grab from every single one of these fights and monetize it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my two cents. But I'm also a bootstraps.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The man in the mirror is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who needs to do the work, not the other people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of guy anyway, So that's okay. Who can read good?

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<v Speaker 1>I can read pretty yeah, pretty good, man. I appreciate you, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for having yeah go pick up when lose

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<v Speaker 1>your draw. We were coming on the bus, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that you're I heard, you're gonna be in

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<v Speaker 1>town for a couple months. Like that's boys can hang, man,

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<v Speaker 1>boys can hang. And you know, if Taylor gets sick, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you put me around here, I won't hesitate it. I

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<v Speaker 1>won't hesitate. I don't have the mustache, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>we can figure something out about one hundred pounds less

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<v Speaker 1>than him. Yeah, one hundred and fifty pounds less. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do that math. But appreciate you boys. Thanks boys

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<v Speaker 1>for having me. I appreciate it.

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