1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Take a little bit longer than I thought. You have 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: to keep moving from setback to setback without losing the 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: enthusiasm fail your way to the top. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Like you go through so many setbacks to end up 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: see you at the top getting to the top, Like 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: it's not just some escalator that takes you up there. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Old Michael, focus so much on being perfect once I 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: got to a certain point, once I won that first 9 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: world title, and truthfully, it says so much more about 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: how you conduct yourself after a loss, that this is 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: part of the journey and when you do win the belt, 12 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: when the belt does come on the belt for the 13 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Boys with the Boys, it's gonna be even better. All right, 14 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: we rolling do we need a clap? Yeah? I round 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 1: of applause for the boys, just. 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: All the boys out there watching and listening. This episode 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: of Busting with the Boys is brought to you by Chevy, 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: specifically the Chevy Soverado. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: How much do you love Chevy? Mike who rock? Is 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: that right? I think? I mean it used to be. Okay, 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: I hope, so hope. 22 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: Somebody supposed to be nodding back there, like, yeah, that's good, That's. 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. It's not the other one. It's not 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: the I don't know why they stopped doing it. That 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: that was like the coolest. 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: That was the best little jingle, nice little commercial, rolling, 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: bumping in the gravel and stuff like a rock. The strongest, 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: most advanced Silverado ever. It is strong, dependable, gritty, just 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: like the people who drive them. 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: You all. 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: The design is big, boulding, commanding. In this truck, turn says, 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: have you seen the new Silverado? I'm sure. 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Listen, there's a there's a pallethro of them out there 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: on the highway. I actually haven't, so it's it's hard 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: to distinguish what's bringing. 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: It's hard to spot which one's the new one. The 37 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: new one is beautiful. Hey, the best looking one is 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: the car Heart Edition. Have you guys seen the car 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: Heart Edition? The Chevy Silverado? That thing I almost cursed. 40 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: I'm glad I caught myself because they don't want it. 41 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: Then almost to curse in the did they do the 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: heart like seats? They should do car he seats? Dude, 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: I'm talking inside and are we able to bring up 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: a photo? 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Hey? 46 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: While we're bringing this photo towing moving day, Hey boys, 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: hey help me out, might bring up Hey bring up 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: the thing, hauling, hauling your boat, pulling a lot of 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: weight American most importantly American maid. 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: American maid. Yes, that's all that's helping out. Your family 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: and friends. 52 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: Go to a dealership near you, tell them the boys 53 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 2: sent you, and support your local Chevy dealership. Boys we 54 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: have on Mike Chandler. We will get into all of 55 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: the fun stuff. 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: I was. 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: Pleasantly surprised that you still wanted to come on and 58 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: do the podcast. I didn't like count you out of 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: not coming and doing the pod. Uh, just because when 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: I was reaching out to you, I'm just like, you 61 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: know number one, I was telling Garrett on the way 62 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: over here, just like how much of like a pro 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: and just your how high your emotional intelligence is in 64 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: the first place. So like when something like that happens, 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: like obviously people want to find stuff, like your corner 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: wants to find things to tell you. That's gonna let 67 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: you because everybody wants to be there for you. Yeah, 68 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: because they feel like they experienced the loss with you. 69 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: Yea. And so when I'm texting you is like, you know, 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: this dude knows like he knows the game. How long 71 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: have you been fighting? Be thirteen years? In August. That's 72 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Like you've been in the fight game so long, it's 74 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: like it just seems like such a like the biggest 75 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: moment because it's happening right now and it's the UFC 76 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: two sixty two, Like it seems so huge because it's 77 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: you know, obviously I know all of us we're tuned 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: in watching. Like again I was telling Cody, because we're 79 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: all fired up at the house watching and we're moving. 80 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: It's not like when Cody used to wrestle, like being 81 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: on the mat watching him wrestling, and then when it happens, 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: you're just kind of like it just takes the energy 83 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: out and you just the moment seems so huge and 84 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: that at that point in time. But it's like you've 85 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: been in the fight game so long, you you like, 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: this is this is. 87 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Like part of the journey. Yeah, it is, and I mean, 88 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing. And this is why I 89 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: so to give a little bit of background. You know, 90 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: we already planned this to be here. You know, we 91 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: did have the boat the belt on ye he said, 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: the belt is coming to the bus and that's fucking sick. 93 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: And you know, you sent me a nice text you know, 94 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: like keep your head up type of deal. And then 95 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: you followed back up and then I said, hey, just 96 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: so you know, like I'll see you on the bus. 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: And we were like, you know, I'm not quite sure, 98 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, Okay, Yeah, if you're down with it, let's 99 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: let's go. But you don't have to feel me out 100 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: like that. The seat was open because I was like, hey, man, 101 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: thinking about you. 102 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and said something else and you're like, yo, can 103 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: I still come on the bus at one pm? 104 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: I was like, you're goddamn right, like we got to 105 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: see warm for you. Well, and that's I mean. And 106 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: that's the thing, man, the old the old me would 107 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: have you know. I kind of give a talk now 108 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: about because I lost three fights in a row six 109 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight days. I went without winning a 110 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: fight back a couple of years ago. And I made 111 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: three mistakes, and the number one, the first mistake I 112 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: made was I wanted to hide from the loss. Media 113 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: was calling me. I was up for five of the year. 114 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: They wanted me to present an award at the World 115 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: MMA Awards. Hey, come present this award. I didn't take 116 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: anybody's phone calls, anybody's text messages, anybody's emails. I was 117 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: off social media because I was just embarrassed, ashamed. I 118 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: wanted to hide. But man, this is where the growth happens. 119 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: That happens, the growth happens in these moments where I 120 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: can sit next to you. I mean a guy who's lost. 121 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you're an athlete. Everyone in here. It doesn't 122 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: matter if you're an athlete, if you're a non athlete. 123 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: We all suffer loss, we all suffer setbacks. We all 124 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: make promises that we want to make good on. Like 125 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring that belt home, Like me and 126 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: my son prayed for Daddy's belt every single night for 127 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: the last two months, the last eight weeks, we prayed 128 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: every single night about Daddy's belt and why Daddy is gone, 129 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: Why Daddy has to be in Florida, has to be working, 130 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: has to be training, has to be away from his son, 131 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: away from his fatherly duties, away from the promise that 132 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I made to him. So I wanted to make good 133 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: on that promise. But the belt is just the piece 134 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: of the twelve pounds of leather and gold that signifies 135 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: being a world champion. But in order to be a 136 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: champion in life, you have to keep moving from setback 137 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: to setback without losing the enthusiasm, without losing this steam, 138 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: with complete disregard to my previous failures, my previous setbacks, 139 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: one that just happened forty eight hours ago. I still 140 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: got the black guy to prove it. You know, that 141 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: was a million you know, millions of people saw it. 142 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: And there's I'm sure there's a lot of people saying 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: a lot of things about me, you know, eating my 144 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: words and I wasn't that good or I wasn't you know. 145 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: But I'm choosing not to hear those things and just 146 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: moving forward in a positive light that this is part 147 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: of the journey and when we do win that belt, 148 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: when the belt does come on, the belt for the 149 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: boys with the boys, it's going to be even better. 150 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: So I hit the ground running this morning. I got 151 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: a sauna session in forty minutes, just you know, discipline myself, 152 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: Like Tommy, h no, I actually have one here. It's 153 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: not put together. We just moved and stuff. So I 154 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: just went to the YMCA and which is much hotter anyway. 155 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: So I sat there for forty minutes and sweated it out, 156 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: sweated out the sweat that was in me for that 157 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: fight and then sweated it out. Monday morning, we hit 158 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: the we hit the ground, run and did something for 159 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: my body, my soul. And now here we are talking 160 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: about it, expressing through the loss, admitting the failure, but 161 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: not only admitting the failure, sitting here with a smile 162 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: on my face, saying, Saturday really did end. Saturday night 163 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: and Sunday morning a new sun rose, and Monday morning 164 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: the sun rose again a little bit more painfully, a 165 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: little bit more you know, a little bit more tough. 166 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: But man, this is It's all part of life, this, 167 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: this whole thing. And that's why people are drawn to 168 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: mixed martial arts, is that is it's a metaphor for life. 169 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: Like what I went through on Insat on Saturday night, 170 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: had a really had a great first round one ten 171 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: eight on two of the three scorecards, and then got caught, 172 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: you know, got caught and lost, you know, and the 173 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: other guy left with the belt that I was supposed 174 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: to have. But yeah, this is life. 175 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: Talk about because before we get into all the fight 176 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,679 Speaker 2: and everything like that, talk about those the next twenty 177 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: four hours after that loss, after you you recollect your thoughts, 178 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: you give the you give the interview with Joe Rogan, like, 179 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: what are the next twenty four hours actually, like, like, yes, 180 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: the sun does rise, and I think this is I 181 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: was telling Garrett on the way over. The reason I'm uh, 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: I was fired up about talking to you is because 183 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: this is the majority of everyone's journey in life anyway, 184 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: is failures. Most of the time, you fail your way 185 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: to the top, Like you go through so many setbacks 186 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: to end up see you at the top getting to 187 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: the top, Like it's not just some escalator that takes 188 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: you up there, Like this is. 189 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: The majority of what life looks like is losing. Yep. 190 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: So take us through those first twenty four hours after 191 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: after the loss, after the press. 192 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Conference, you're banging your head against the mic. 193 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 2: Like you can see the emotion, like it was it 194 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: sucked watching it and you just know like fuck, man, 195 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: take us through those those first twenty four to forty 196 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: eight hours. 197 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the hardest thing, the hardest 198 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: part about mixed martial arts is it is it is 199 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: just so tumultuous. There there is always a chance that 200 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: you can lose, even with even if you're a thousand 201 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: to one favorite man, we're wearing four ounce gloves, these 202 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: tiny little bitty gloves, and you have these spots on 203 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: your body, you know, the temple, the chin, wherever it 204 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: may be, the liver, wherever it may be, where the 205 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: body just shuts off and says, nope, we're done and 206 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: the fight is over. And I prepared perfectly. I left 207 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: no stone unturned. I did every single thing that I 208 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: possibly could. Lived my life like a champion. From the 209 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: moment Hunter Campbell, who is number two in command at 210 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 1: the UFC, and then Dana called me that that same day, 211 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: and whenever they called me and said, hey, you're fighting 212 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: Charles olivera May fifteenth for the UFC title. From that moment, 213 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: I lived my life like a champion, did exactly what 214 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: I needed to do to put myself in the best 215 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: situation to win. So when it's over and you don't win, 216 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: then it's then it's just you know, the kind of 217 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: the bang in the head on the mic. I think 218 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: it was after a reporter named Mark RIMONDI answered or 219 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: asked me a question about something, and that's when you know, 220 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: every now and then it just kind of hits you 221 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, dang man, it's over, Like it's over. 222 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: You can't get this one back. It's not a dream. 223 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: You're not gonna wake up and the bell's about to 224 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: ring and you're gonna get another chance. 225 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's exactly what we were saying. Like, I'm 226 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: gonna let you finish my thought too. But when you 227 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: like lose a playoff game or something happens where it's 228 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: just not and it was the same thing when when 229 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: it was final that you had lost, it's like waking 230 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: up from a dream and that bell's gonna ring again 231 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have another shot. 232 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Yep, because I've had those nightmares, and a lot of 233 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: times I do have those nightmares. Two weeks before, right, 234 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: two three weeks before before the fight, I imagine, or I 235 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: think I wake up in a cold sweat in the 236 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: middle of night, like I got knocked out, I got 237 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: choked out, or I got extremely tired, I got outclassed, 238 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: I got just got beat. And you know, that's kind 239 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: of what it felt like when when the press conference 240 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: is over, then it's like, Okay, now you go back 241 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: to normal life. I knew even even after the fight 242 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: back there it was just me and my wife. I'm 243 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: freaking crying, my cry my eyes out. Yusada is right there. 244 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: Almost pretty much almost us that guy out because I'm like, dude, 245 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: give me a second to breathe. Man, like I'm gonna 246 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: pie in your cup. I'll get it. 247 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: It's always trying to get you to take a pissed 248 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: test right right when you got back. 249 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, well, I I was in the I went 250 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: back to go see the doctor and he's doing the 251 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: lights and the eyes to check my eyes, check my balance, 252 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: check my concussion, whatever protocols. And he's there and he's like, 253 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: hey man, and I'm with you, Sada, you gotta pee 254 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: in this cup. I'm like, okay, well give me a second, man, 255 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: Like give me, give me one second. And uh so 256 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: then he followed me back there and just me and breathe, 257 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: and then I, you know, did the use side of thing. 258 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: I apologize to him because I wasn't wasn't the nicest. 259 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: Did you cuss? Maybe? Probably? I don't know, man, you 260 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: don't cuss. 261 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: You're pretty, you're pretty, you're pretty disciplined with the custiner. 262 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man, it's and I 263 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: think it's it's just it's that you know when it 264 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: hits you, that it's it's over. And and that's but 265 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: that's the thing. I I truly sit here, I truly 266 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: sit here with zero regrets, like I did every single 267 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: thing that I possibly could. And this is just the 268 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: nature of life in general outside of an octagon, but 269 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: in the octagon especially, it's just the nature of the 270 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: business man. You you win some and you lose some, 271 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: and unfortunately you're gonna lose often. I mean, I fought 272 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: the number three guy in the world, guy who was 273 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: on an eight fight winning streak, a guy who's not 274 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: the number one guy in the world, a guy who 275 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: you know, he's great, he's good. My next fight is 276 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna be against another guy who's top five. It was great. 277 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: Whoever that is like, I'm you know, you're fighting in 278 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: the upper echelon. You're going You're going to lose, and 279 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: so I think that was that was just it. It's like, 280 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: man if I had another shot, I would probably win 281 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: that fight, you know. So you then you start playing 282 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: you replaying it over and it's like, should I have 283 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: let him up in the first round, and should or 284 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: should I have done this? Or should I have done that? 285 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: But when you did every single thing that you possibly 286 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: could to put yourself in the best situation to win, 287 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: you really can't have any regrets. And and that's the 288 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: only thing I can ask for. If I if I 289 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: lost that fight and I was like, gosh, dang man, 290 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: if that weight cut wasn't so bad because I wasn't 291 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: disciplined with my weight, or if I, you know, came 292 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: in and I didn't and I and I knew I 293 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: didn't really train that hard, or I didn't I slacked 294 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: in this I slacked in the area I had no 295 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: I had none of that because I did every single 296 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: thing that I possibly could to win the fight, to 297 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: get myself in the position when that cage door closed 298 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: and that bell rang that I was going to showcase 299 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: my skills and may the best man win. That's what 300 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: I said. That's what I always say. I preach it 301 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: all the time. You you got to embrace the uncertainty 302 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: that's about to happen. And part of embracing that uncertainty 303 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: is the fact that you may lose. Shoot, there might 304 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: even be a fifty percent chance that you're gonna lose, 305 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: a more than fifty percent chance that you're gonna lose 306 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: because you're fighting the best guy in the world. It's like, 307 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: like you said, a playoff game. You don't just fall 308 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. So you just fall into a playoff game. 309 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: You have to be good enough to be in a 310 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: playoff game. And then chances are you're you're playing against 311 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: a team who is really freaking good, and you're both 312 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: rising to the occasion. You're both rising to the occasion. 313 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: And then made the best man win, and the better 314 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: man won that night. I guess if you will, or 315 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: that night he was the better man. We could fight 316 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: ten more times and I could win ten more times. 317 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: You never It's just part of the game. I know, man. 318 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: And two, I didn't know it took him so long 319 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: to get a title fight. 320 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Somebody had mentioned a stat that it's been eleven years since, 321 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: like this was his first title fight, and it's been 322 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: like eleven years for him to be in the game 323 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: to get a chance. 324 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: He signed with the UFC in twenty ten. I started 325 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: fighting in two thousand and nine. So the guy's been 326 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: cut his teeth in the organization. And that's what I said. 327 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and a lot of people, a lot of 328 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: people see the things that I say on the microphone 329 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: or in interviews or this and that, like I'm hyping 330 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: up a fight, and I wasn't hyping up a fight. 331 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: I truly believed that Charles Olaverro wanted to win just 332 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: as bad as I did. This was his opportunity when 333 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: he was born in the favelas of Brazil, which is 334 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: like the ghettos of Brazil, and he had this glimmer 335 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: in his eye that he was going to one day 336 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: become a world champion in the UFC. This was that 337 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: moment that he dreamed about, right, you know, and taken 338 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: off away from him. He beat me, you know, And 339 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: but I truly believed that I was going to beat him. 340 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: And that's when that's when, that's when magic happens. When 341 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: he got two guys or two teams, or two two 342 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: individuals fighting for the same for the same exact thing. 343 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Someone's got to win, someone's gotta lose, and then it 344 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: just then it just after that. It all depends on 345 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: how does he respond as the champion and how do 346 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I respond to the guy who who lost in the 347 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: championship fight. And I think by just by sitting here 348 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: speaking about it, we get to move forward quicker than 349 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: if we hide from it, shield our eyes from it, 350 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: not answer the phone calls, not you know, all of 351 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: a sudden just think that I'm not that good anymore, 352 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: or fall into this self pity, the self perpetual, the perpetuating, 353 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: revolving door of Okay, maybe I'm not that good and 354 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: I truly believe I'm still gonna be a UFC champion. 355 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: It just gonna take a little bit longer than I thought. Dude, Yeah, 356 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, man. Adversity shows people who they 357 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: are because it's all about how you respond to anything 358 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: that happens ever in your life. It's all it's like, 359 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: all in your response about how you do it. 360 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: Are we uh, we're not. We're not doing the whole 361 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: interruption of the the ad rates today because this is 362 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: fucking yeah. Like, we're not gonna interrupt any type of 363 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: juicy conversations. But Doey, is it time to do an 364 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: ad read? 365 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: All right? 366 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 2: Free Fly Apparel. This episode of Bustling with the Boys 367 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: is brought to you by Free Fly. 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You have to one take, 402 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: only you don't know anything about what you're about to read, 403 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: and you just go one take and go through the ad. 404 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: And we had Josh Wolf on last week and he 405 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: just destroyed as chirped as hard. But uh, we've had 406 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: fun with the ad reads. But to get back into 407 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: the conversation about adversity creating, uh, I think Taylor tweeted 408 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: it the other night too. Adversity show adversity. I almost 409 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: just repeated what I said earlier, But essentially, adversity shows 410 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: a man who he is. And another reason I was 411 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: fascinated to say with you because I know you handle 412 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: this stuff very well. 413 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: I am curious to what you said earlier. 414 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: The old Chandler would have not wanted to see anything, 415 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: you know, been wanted to kind of hide shell away 416 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. 417 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: Why why were why were you that way back then? 418 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: And why do you think it's different now? You know? 419 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: I just think it's a maturation process. I think it's 420 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: I think I'm much more comfortable in my own skin 421 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,479 Speaker 1: than I than I used to be, you know. I mean, 422 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I I make it no secret. I was a small 423 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: guy from a small town who was taught to do 424 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: small things and I and I broke that mold. But 425 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: part of that mold, you know. But but I also see, 426 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: like even even raising a child, you know, and you 427 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: you brought up your dog earlier. Like what happens when 428 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: when a dog knows that he Peter pooped on the 429 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: floor and then you acknowledge it, the dog immediately runs 430 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: away and tries to tuck their tail between their legs, 431 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: and they want to run from it. They want to 432 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: hide from it. When my son does something wrong, or 433 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: he when we're potty training them and he peas or 434 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: poops in his pants, immediately he doesn't want to make 435 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: eye contact. He's looking looking away He even wants to lie. 436 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: He wants to lie and tell you no, I didn't 437 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: when you you know darn well he did because you 438 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: can smell it. Yeah, this is I think it's it's 439 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: it's partly human nature. I think it's partly you know, 440 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: we as human beings, we don't want to let people down. 441 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: We have this this innate yearning to to not let 442 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: people down. And I think in mixed martial arts it's 443 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: such an individual sport too, that the loss was on 444 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: display for everybody to see, and it wasn't you know, 445 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't the boys loss. And the boys were behind me, right, 446 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: you're behind me, and Tailor's behind me. My team is 447 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: behind me, but it's not their loss. It's my. It's 448 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: my no go to bed later that night, you know. 449 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: And so it's it's such an individual thing, but in 450 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: that there's so much freedom because you have the opportunity 451 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: to show people that even in an individual sport, even 452 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: though I can, like I said, I was coming here, 453 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not coming here with a belt, but I'm 454 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: coming here with my heart on my sleeve. And I 455 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: could show up today with my heart on my sleeve 456 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: with complete disregard to that failure that I had just 457 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: forty eight hours ago, and not disregard for it. But 458 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to let it hinder me. I'm 459 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: not going to let it define me, because failure is 460 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: an event and it's not a person. I am not 461 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: a failure. I failed on Saturday night. But the way 462 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: that I respond, in the way that I move forward, 463 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: can prove to those that have failed, and proved to 464 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: those that have seen the failure or had failures that 465 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: they can in the future still become a champion. And 466 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: I truly, I mean I was brought to tears earlier 467 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: when I saw my wife make a post and she 468 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: sent me a message and that I am a world 469 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: champion in life because of who I I have in it, 470 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: the things that I do have, the fact that I 471 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: walked into onto the bus with two capable arms and 472 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: two capable legs, and I get to do what I love, 473 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: and I have a platform to reach people, and I 474 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: do have love in droves. I have health in droves. 475 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: I have ridiculous a ridiculous support system around me in abundance. 476 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: And these are the things that last that that belt 477 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: would have been awesome to bring on this bus but 478 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: it's just twelve pounds of golden leather, and it will 479 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: tarnish and it will fade, and it means a lot. 480 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: It means. It means, it means the epitome of accomplishment 481 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: inside the confines of mixed martial arts competition. It means 482 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm the number one guy in the world. But it 483 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm going to be happy, doesn't mean 484 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: that I'm to be healthy, doesn't mean that I'm going 485 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: to live a long and prosperous life that will in 486 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: turn inspire, motivate and reach people. So it's uh. The 487 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: old Michael would have just would have wanted to not 488 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: do this. The old Michael would have said, man, give 489 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: me a couple of weeks, give me and that with 490 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: those weeks would have turned into a couple of months, 491 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: and they would have turned into you know, sleepless nights, 492 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: and they would have turned into a lot of self pity, 493 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: and they would have turned into a lot of blaming, 494 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: and it would have turned into a lot of a 495 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of self deprecating thing, which really, truthfully is a 496 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: lot of selfishness. I think I think we also we 497 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: also look at our failures in a vacuum and say, well, 498 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: I deserve this time to and I do. I mean, 499 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: if if I and I know you understand this too. 500 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: If I would have said, hey, man, i've seen a 501 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: couple weeks. You know, maybe I'll be back on the 502 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: bus and a couple weeks would have not thought anything 503 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: of it. Give them a couple weeks, let them, let 504 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: them cool off, let them let them lick his wounds 505 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: if you will. And I think I've earned that, But 506 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: I also know it does sometimes come from a a 507 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: selfishness too, thinking that all of these things and these 508 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: losses happen inside of a vacuum, and and they these 509 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: weren't These things happened to us instead of for us. 510 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: And I truly believe that this loss happened for me, 511 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: so that this this chapter of this journey. Now we 512 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: can close this chapter of the first World title. Uh, 513 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: now it was a loss, and now I get to 514 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: build myself back up, and I get to have some 515 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: amazing fights, and I get to have that next chapter, 516 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: which will be winning the UFC title, I think eventually. 517 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: So I think the old Michael would have would have 518 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: ran from it. The old Michael would have would have 519 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: shielded himself from it and thought that Okay, if I 520 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: if I just block everything out, that's where the real 521 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: healing can happen, or until I win again, or until 522 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: I went again. 523 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know a lot of times people want 524 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: to get back to the spot where they're you know, 525 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: obviously comfortable. Well that's and that's the hard because there's 526 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: insecurity that comes with not wanting to face certain certain 527 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: truths and stuff with that. 528 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: And that's the hardest part about mixed martial arts. I mean, 529 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: you brought your brother up earlier. I mean, obviously most 530 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: of the boys know. I wrestled in high school, wrestled 531 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: in college, and that was that was the best part 532 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: about wrestling. If you lost on Wednesday, you got an 533 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: opportunity to weigh in again Thursday or Friday or Saturday, 534 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: and you get back in the wind column. I'm not 535 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: going to get be able to get back in the 536 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: wind column and get my hand raised and said that 537 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: UFC octagon until you know, I don't know, November, December, January, 538 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: so there there's going to be months and I can't 539 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: wait that long. I can't I can't wait that long 540 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I'll get back on the winning track 541 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: back then, because my next training session will immediately become okay, 542 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: either I failed completely or I was successful today. And 543 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: the old Michael focus so much on being perfect. Once 544 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: I got to a certain point, once I won that 545 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: first world title, once I got to that number three 546 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: in the world, number five in the world, once I 547 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: got that world ranking, I focus so much on being 548 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: perfect because that's what I thought a world champion was, 549 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: That's what I thought an the athlete at the highest 550 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: level was. But truthfully, we're all human beings, We're all 551 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: flawed individuals. We will have we will suffer losses, we 552 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: will suffer setbacks, and truthfully, it says so much more 553 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: about how you conduct yourself after a loss than it 554 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: would if I came here on the belt and on 555 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the bus with the belt. And not that I trust me, 556 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: but always I wish I had the belt. Oh, I 557 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: mean I wish I won. But but now it gives 558 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: us an opportunity to talk about how do where do 559 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: we go from here? How do we move forward? Or 560 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: from here? And luckily I've been here before, and I've 561 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: been and I've battled back from worse than losing to 562 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: number three guy in the world. In a UFC title fight. 563 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of great things that came from this weekend, 564 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: and I think my response moving forward will do more 565 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: for my legacy, for the future, accolades, for the support system, 566 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: for the boys, for the following, for the everything than 567 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: even the wind. You know. And I still got this. 568 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: This story is far from being over. Is what is 569 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of next for you? You mentioned November, December, January, February. 570 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be that long until you're able 571 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: to get back in the ring. I think, you know. 572 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had a heck of a year, man, 573 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: you have had a year. 574 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: I feel like it's been a whirlwind. We came in 575 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: hot man, because you had to be ready for the 576 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: fight that you didn't end up fighting in. That was 577 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: one step, which is obviously, you know, a great move 578 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: by everybody's part. 579 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: And it was a full training camp. Yeah, it did 580 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: a full training camp for that opportunity, which was just 581 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: a backup role. And then I did another full training 582 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: camp for January, and then another full training camp for May, 583 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: and now here we are May seventeenth, and uh, you know, 584 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: halfway through the year, so I probably I'll probably be 585 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: here in Nashville for a solid two months. I mean, 586 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to Florida. I have a home 587 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: down in Florida now, So it's much like yeah, no, 588 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: well it was. It was a mandatory. It was a 589 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: mandatory situation. Like I was doing the VRBO thing, and 590 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: then I had a book a VRBO and book a 591 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: rental car, and now I just I'm gonna have my 592 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: own life in Florida because you got your team and 593 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: you're set up down there. Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean 594 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: I have my gym here obviously, Nashville, MMA, and we can, 595 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: we can train, and we can. There's the UFC call 596 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: right now. Do you want to answer? We can cut 597 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: it off if you want to answer it. Hey, it's 598 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: the UFC man. Yes. This episode of Buzzing with the 599 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: Boys is also brought to you by Roman. Boys. 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That was a 640 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: tough thing. I love that you still do the no 641 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: free shout outs. I love it, man. 642 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: I see it, and you're like, I just want to 643 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: give a shout out to wherever we're at. No free 644 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: shout outs. Love it, man. You gotta stay, you gotta 645 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: stay at the roots. Man started so good? So any 646 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: decent news? 647 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, man, they're just calling and checking in, calling 648 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: and checking in, man, And I uh, I'll tell you what, man. 649 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: I I love I love my career, I love Bellator, 650 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: I love fighting for them. But the ufc IS is 651 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: a special special organization. The people that they have the 652 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 1: level at which they operate, the security staff, the operations staff. 653 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: They are just high functioning individuals. Man. They run the 654 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: company and they invest in the company. They invest in 655 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: the people like they're trying to take over the world. 656 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: And that's what I love about them, and that's why 657 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm so equally yoked with them. So 658 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: you got to get that phone call on Monday morning 659 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: after the tough loss. You know, it's it's, uh, it's good. 660 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: But like I said, man, work boots are on. Maybe 661 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: you need to take a little look, take a little 662 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: bit of time off, let the body rest, let the 663 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: body like get back to neutral. Cool the jets a 664 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: little bit. But this journey is far from over. Yeah. 665 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: If I'm your agent on the phone, I'm saying, he 666 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: twelve weeks. What we got boys, Let's get back in 667 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: the ring. Yeah, I mean that's no. I mean it's 668 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: uh yeah, we'll see you know, like we said, like 669 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: we were talking, how I came out hot. So yeah. 670 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: Oh and obviously there's gonna be some some uh some 671 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 2: time in between now and your next fight. What is 672 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 2: your routine and uh like body maintenance and training camps 673 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. 674 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: What's that gonna look like for you for the next 675 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: several months, Like how does that? 676 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: How does that work for a fighter, because usually, yeah, 677 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: you got a twelve sixteen week camp, but outside of that, 678 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: like what does that stuff look like for you? 679 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: So so for me, man, I've always just I've always 680 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: just tried to teach treat my body head to toe 681 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: like I'm a professional athlete, and I don't think a 682 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: lot of fighters, don't. You know, A lot of them are. 683 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: A lot of them show up into training camp eight 684 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: weeks ten weeks out before ready to get in shape, 685 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: shed the fat, get your cardio back up. 686 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 2: Man. 687 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: I want to be in tip top shape and ready 688 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: to go the day my feet hit the pavement down 689 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: in Florida, and I can move forward and do training 690 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: camp in shape and you know, lean, ready to go. 691 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: So I can just work on skills, just work on 692 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: game plan, just work on acquiring new skills. So between 693 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 1: training camps, like you know, I landed on Sunday, hit 694 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: the son of this morning, so I'll do strength and 695 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: conditioning this week. My body, you know, my body is 696 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: not not banged up. I'm a little bit sore here 697 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: and there. Took a couple of lake kicks, hands are 698 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: sore as heck from you know, punching or whatever beat 699 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: the shit out of me. Yeah, my hands are sore, dude. 700 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: But but you know, but it's just the little things 701 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: that I can just work around and just keep my 702 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: body moving because I I truly believe this. I don't 703 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: think we get old. I think we get lazy, and 704 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: we get busy, we get really busy, and then and 705 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: then we justify and then we become lazy. So I 706 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: think at thirty five years old, I feel like I'm 707 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: still twenty five. My body still feels like I'm twenty 708 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: five because I've stuck to my body work. I've stuck 709 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: to I use my roller every day, I use my 710 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: soul right every day. I'm supplement. I did not miss supplements. 711 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I see this I brought Yeah, when I brought my supplement. 712 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: I brought my supplements to the arena with me on 713 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Saturday night so I could take them Saturday night, and 714 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: I took them, woke up Sunday morning, I already had 715 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: another bag ready, took them Sunday morning. Have not missed 716 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: my supplements since. And I imagine most people are like, ah, dude, 717 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: that's only for training camp. I'm good. I'm gonna take 718 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: a couple days off. Not me. I actually doubled my 719 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: dose of omegas because I took some shots to the head. 720 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: Double tripled my dose of turmeric and kirkcumin glued to 721 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: thion antioxidant. So just like reading my body of the inflammation, 722 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: We're doing some homemade enchiladas tonight. Shout out to breeze enchiladas. 723 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: No free shade, no shadow. Going to corner pub picking 724 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: up some smokes, smoke some smoke, some smoke chicken for 725 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: enchilada's nice shout out corner pub. No free shoutouts, you know. 726 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: So like it'll be it'll be a good home cooked meal. 727 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Like that's kind of feel like a cheap meal, but 728 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: it's still healthy. Like, uh, it depends what are you 729 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: putting on the manchiladas. Now, cheese going on. I'm not 730 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: a big cheese guy, so I'm gonna lightly spread some 731 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: cheese a lot of sour. I'm a big sour cream guy. Though. 732 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: No no free shouts, just anything you say, Hey daisy, 733 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: daisy sour cream. 734 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: And I went to the bathroom. Hey, no free shouts 735 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: of that bathroom. Uh you know, so so back to 736 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: my body and taking care of me. I just want 737 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: to I always say this too. I as a fighter, 738 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: we always think, okay, well, punching, kicking, kneeing, elbowing, grappling, 739 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: grappling and and grappling defense, those are those are the 740 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: most important things. But I also think, if all things 741 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: are equal and we're just as if me and my 742 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: opponent to strike the same and we grapple the same, 743 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: we wrestle the same. The guy who is the better athlete, 744 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: who can push for longer and not just push for longer, 745 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: but push for longer after it gets painful, who is 746 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: mentally tough, physically tough, and a better athlete, that guy 747 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: is going to probably be the guy who has a 748 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: better chance of winning. So I've always just tried to 749 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: become a better athlete, especially between training camps. So I'm 750 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: working to I'll be doing a ton of strength and conditioning, 751 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: lifting a little bit heavier, put on a little bit 752 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: more muscle mass that I lost during training camp because 753 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: I for eight to ten weeks, I'm basically operating at 754 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: a calorie deficit every day to shed the fat, lose 755 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: a little bit of muscle mass so I can make 756 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: one fifty five, Like you know I woke up this 757 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: morning one eighty four. Oh shit, Yeah, in a week 758 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: or two, I'll be I'll probably be closer to one ninety, 759 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, after I put on maybe a little bit 760 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: of a little bit of body fat. So I'm like 761 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: cutting from one ninety to one fifty five. So I 762 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: gotta lose a little bit of muscle mass to get 763 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: down to Yo. That's insane, man, yea fifty five. It's 764 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: not fun. It's the worst part about about fighting. But 765 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: at what point were you one fifty five? Like when 766 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: was the way in Friday? Friday morning and you're walking 767 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: you're right now, what would you say? Four this morning? 768 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: So you're walking around already twenty pounds heavier? Yeah, that's insane. 769 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: That's thirty A is that thirty? Hey? Somebody checked that. 770 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: Somebody checked the fucking tape. Do we say eighty four? 771 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: It was eighty eighty car carry the carry the wings. 772 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: That's thirty yeah, almost thirty nine. And granted I flew yesterday, 773 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 2: So what are you still fucking doing here? Nobody grabbed 774 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 2: a calculator. Just get mad lash out of somebody. Hey, 775 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: it's not as easy for you like you're you know, 776 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: but I always know eighty five is thirty, seventy five 777 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 2: is twenty. 778 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad by me. 779 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: I pride myself on math. So there goes any maths 780 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: credibility of fun out there. 781 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: You know. But if you ask me, you know, one 782 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: twenty one twenty something to one fifty something, I don't 783 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: know what that is, but I know what one fifty 784 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: something to one. Yeah, seventy something, eighty something, ninety something, 785 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: Just I get it. I didn't get it, right, man, No, 786 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: you're good. That's that Missouri education, you know. 787 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So you're walking around thirty pounds heavier, Yeah, 788 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: thirty pounds heavier ish? 789 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: How much? How much weight do you gain from the 790 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: way into the fight. So that was uh yeah, I 791 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: was about one seventy seven when I did my workout 792 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: Saturday morning because I always do a shakeout. I always 793 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: doing like a hard pad session Saturday morning. Sweat a 794 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: little bit, shake it out a little bit, go over 795 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of game plan stuff, and then we 796 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: fight Saturday night. So I was like one seventy seven. 797 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: See you're already up over twenty pounds. Yeah at that point. Yeah, well, 798 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I mean, just uh, simple nuts and bolts like a 799 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: gallon of water weighs eight pounds, and I can crush 800 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: a gallon of water in the first hour, so I'm 801 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: already up eight pounds, and then after two hours, three hours, 802 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm already through two gallons of water. That's sixteen pounds. 803 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: You know, is it like the old wrestling days where 804 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 2: you go to the when you're a kid, you weigh in, 805 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: you make weight, and you go to the nearest buffet 806 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: in town and just load the plate up. 807 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: No man, and that well, that's one of the great 808 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: things about the UFC. No free shots, no shots out 809 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: and no free shots. The buffets either about no fucking 810 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: you got but no, you know, they have they had 811 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: all their all meals set up. So I mean I had. 812 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: I had a big old thing of rice and salmon, 813 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: rice and chicken afterwards. So I had been eating essentially 814 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: the same thing for the last eight weeks. So the 815 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: last thing I want to do, I want everything in me. 816 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: Wanted to go grab a pizza or even like a 817 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: big pasta or something, and I think I did. I 818 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: actually did have one gluten free pasta that night, no 819 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: free doction, fresh shouts pasta. 820 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: I thought we would come together and like you know, 821 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: a bond over a memory of like being young, making 822 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: way you go to the nearest buffet, but you like, no, 823 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: you know, salmon rice and like, okay, yeah, no, I thought, 824 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: before you uf title fight, you'und I just wanted to 825 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: keep I wanted to keep it all all the same. 826 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: And then uh, you know, and then afterwards, even that night, man, 827 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: after the fight, I finally ate that Snickers. Did you 828 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: did you hear about the Snickers? No? Like there was 829 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: a so right before I got the phone call from 830 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: Hunter Campbell, like two days before now, I guess a 831 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: couple of days before that. We were at an airport 832 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: because we went to San Diego and bre got me 833 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: a snore. No free shouts, but she got me a Snickers. 834 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: It's my favorite, my favorite candy bar. And I stuck 835 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: it in my bag and I didn't eat it, and 836 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: it stayed with me the whole trip. I forgot it, 837 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: and then I got the phone call that I was 838 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: fighting for the UFC title, and that same day I 839 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: pulled it out and I'm like, dangdude, I can't eat 840 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: this now this sucks. So I had it down to 841 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: a Florida with me, Florida with me for the last 842 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: two months like kind of set it up on my like, yeah, 843 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: like you're not going to eat you this is like me, yeah, 844 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, creating boundaries. Yeah. And then so it made 845 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: the Countdown show or no, it made Yeah, I made 846 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: the Countdown show and it made the embedded show. And 847 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: then and then people people immediately came and like look 848 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: at Chandler trying to get the Snicker sponsorship or look 849 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: at the UFC shamelessly promoting Snickers. 850 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, man, that's just a funny story, 851 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, but Snickers if you want to sponsor 852 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: a boy, yeah what Haler? Yeah, you know, no free 853 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: shots if you want to be for the boys exactly. 854 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: Because then in but it was after the fight, it 855 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: was already so late, you know. 856 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: I didn't hit the press conference till almost one, and 857 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: then everything was pretty much closed, Like I could have 858 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: got pizza cut out something. I was like, I was like, babe. 859 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: That was because Bree was like, hey, what can I 860 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: get you? And get you some food? Get you what 861 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 1: do you want? And alcohols out of the question because 862 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: I got you know, tk O. So I wasn't gonna 863 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: drink anything. Yeah, But as far as food. I you know, 864 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: all bets are off. I could have eaten anything. But 865 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: then it's like this would make me feel real depressed 866 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: if I really filled myself with a bunch of freaking food. 867 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: So I was like, process, many, Yeah, I'm gonna eat this. I' 868 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: gonna eat the Snickers and I ate. I think I ate, like, uh, 869 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: another protein bar or something, And that was pretty That 870 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: was it. And then I woke up the next morning 871 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 1: and had had breakfast. But Snickers is your favorite candy 872 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: bar by far. That's what I took out of that 873 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: whole thing. Yeah, but well, I mean I used to 874 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: have them, like back in wrestling, but all the way 875 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: back to wrestling, man like, like, just get done with 876 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: weigh ins, you know those wrestling those wrestling tournaments. Loud 877 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: as heck, you're just freaking munching on a Snickers or 878 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: like goober, do you ever have goober back in the day? 879 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh uh yeah, chocolate, yeah goober? No, no, sorry, no, 880 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: it was the it was the jar that had peanut 881 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: butter and jelly, peanut butter, jelly, peanut butter jelly. It's 882 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: called Google. I don't think so Google. 883 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: I thought goobers were like a little uh, little Yeah, 884 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 2: a little ball that you get the movies or some ship. 885 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: Goober? Is it called goober? Yeah? Man like that with 886 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: on some bread. 887 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: You know, that's what that's That's what reminds me of 888 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 2: sounds like it's just called a peanut butter and jelly 889 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 2: sandwich pretty much, but it's it's peanut butter and jelly 890 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: jelly sandwich in a jar. You don't have to have 891 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: a jar and a jar jelly and the bread. 892 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 893 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 2: Do you only have two ingredients instead of one? I 894 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: want to go back to the Snickers. Yeah, no free shouts. 895 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: Top three candy bars, Uh, Snickers, Baby Ruth, Baby Ruth, 896 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 2: Baby Ruth. Are you just trying to be different there? 897 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: You really like you don't like Baby Ruth. 898 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: I like Baby Ruths. I don't think it's in my 899 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: top three? Yeah. And then Almond Joy Coconut Almond Chocolate 900 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: Top three, all three, no free shouts to any of 901 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: you guys. Almond Joy, Yeah, bro light a light. I 902 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: mean I'm probably missing a couple, but you're Missingese's. Yeah, No, 903 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: I do. I like. I like Reese's in ice cream, 904 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: Like I'm like a big I'm a sucker for Reese's 905 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: and ice cream, bro anything chocolate. I'm a big chocolate guy. 906 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: You'll go into the frozen yogurt, you know, little spot 907 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 2: get you first of all, you sample the entire place. Yeah, 908 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: you have to say, and you probably sample it again 909 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: because you're like not quite sure. You got to go 910 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 2: through the whole the whole list, even the surbert that 911 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: they try to put in there that make you feel 912 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: better about yourself. Like I'll try the sherbet and yeah, 913 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: don't like sherbet. Again, you gotta try them all and 914 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 2: then you gotta eliminate. 915 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: Then you gotta make it to the second round. Then 916 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: you try to sample a few more. By that time 917 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: you're alread getting a little fool but you know what 918 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: you want, you know what I mean, I like to 919 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: At that point, it's all it's all chocolate for me. Like, yeah, 920 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: I don't sample the fruit the fruit stuff. Same, I'm 921 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: not a I'm not the fruit bar stuff either. Like 922 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: it'll be like all the strawberries and stuff. 923 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking all the candies, all the like the caramel, 924 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: the fudge. 925 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 1: That's the best. Boys, what are you guys? Top candy bars? 926 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: M isn't a bar? 927 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a that's a little debay too. Yeahs isn't either. 928 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, I mean it's a cup. It's 929 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 2: it's so you're Sayingese's isn't the candy bar? 930 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 1: Okay? What about the East the Easter? 931 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the eggs, the bunnies, that's a bar, the bunnies, 932 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: Reese's period, Reese's is up there. I I am a 933 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: huge fan of Snickers, big Snickers guy. I'm also a 934 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: big heath bar guy means a sleeper. I like it 935 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: more my in my ice cream. But I'm a big 936 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: heath bar guy. Yeah, that's questionable. I understand. Stick your 937 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: teeth too, right, Carmel, But then first bites man, and 938 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 2: when when you when you bite into the heath bar too, 939 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: and kind of like the uh, the aura, the vibe 940 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: that comes off of the bar, of the sensation that 941 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 2: kind of goes in your mouth, you know what I mean? 942 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: I love that. No balls, So you don't like this ship, dude, 943 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: you don't like you don't like? Huh? Candy bar reviews 944 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: is going to be coming up soon. There you go. 945 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: Did you see my mental going in the trying to 946 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: figure out what the taste was like? The boys do bars. 947 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: I do think it's a vibe boys bars, I. 948 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: Think them all up. 949 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 2: When you bite into a heath bar, it's like it's like, 950 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like an essential oil feeling your 951 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: filling your mouth like a heath that heath taste, you 952 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 953 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: That it's an experience. Yeah, but you don't like Baby Ruth. 954 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: I like Baby Ruth, you know. I like chocolate, I 955 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: like nuts, I like caramel. Yeah, I mean that's all 956 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: in there. 957 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 2: I'm just surprised that it's actually making your top three. Yeah, 958 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 2: it's all, it's all. I'm just surprised it's making your 959 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: actual top three. And all'm enjoy I get it. You 960 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: like coconut, you need it. Seem like you've got a 961 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: healthier ish bar in there. I just don't see how 962 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: it's actually making your top three like that. Like there's 963 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 2: so many good candy bars out there, twis We've been 964 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 2: talking about twits. 965 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: See, I'm I'm not the big wafer, not like the 966 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: wafer that much, but I like the chocolate and the 967 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: just chocolate and wafer, right, I have the caramel sitting 968 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: in there on top, dude. 969 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: Caramel kit cat bars butterfinger. Oh butterfinger? Ah see no, no, 970 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 2: you like all'm enjoy over the what we just named? Yeah, 971 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: because see I don't I don't like. I don't like 972 00:43:58,600 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 2: what was the one we just said? 973 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: Uh, twix? No butterfinger. But I don't like butterfinger because 974 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's fake. It's too fake of peanut butter. 975 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: I see we're saying, not like Reese's. That's that's like 976 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 1: peanut butter. You could put on a sandwich and make 977 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but you can't. I 978 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,720 Speaker 1: don't like the butter fingers. 979 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm a I love the I love butter fingers, but 980 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 2: butterfingers you can actually you can't like have like small 981 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: bites of butter fingers because you take a bite and 982 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: it flakes all over you, you know what I mean. 983 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: She's gotta shove the whole thing. Yeah. What else? We got? 984 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: Milky Way? I was never a big milky Way guy. No, 985 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 1: we got a soft I like. I like the crunch 986 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: of a nuts. Are good. 987 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 2: Crunch of a nutun Sorry, I'm in a nut bro her. 988 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: She's like, it's like whatever, you know what I mean, Like, 989 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 2: just give me hers she's kiss her, She's is just 990 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 2: chocolate crunch bar. 991 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: Don't really care, Mike going back to the way and thing, 992 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: whoa whoa, whoa you ever? I'm sorry, I thought we 993 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: were doing with this. It sounded like we were doing it. 994 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: The boys are doing bars bro. 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Uh no, because I know 1030 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 1: I am like, I bet that that's what they think 1031 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: about me. Okay, fresh outs to me, free shouts. No, 1032 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: but uh no, I mean I think sometimes Yeah, I 1033 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: mean it is a crazy thing because we you know, 1034 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: you spend all this time thinking about your opponent. You 1035 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: spend all this time watching footage or or maybe their 1036 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: fights or their highlights, their low lights. Then you do 1037 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: their face off and the way in and you sat 1038 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: you see him one fight week, they started a little 1039 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: bit sucked down, a little bit frail, and then when 1040 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: you step inside the the Octaguy, okay, that's a fight. 1041 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: He's a very big boy, you know. Charles Olivera was 1042 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: definitely taller than me, longer than me, but he was 1043 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: very he was slender. I guarantee I weighed more than 1044 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: he did. But no, not really. I mean we're all 1045 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: all relatively the same size. You know, you're built like 1046 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: an am staff. I'm a pretty good pit, you know 1047 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,839 Speaker 1: what I mean. Two c's let's talk about the fight. 1048 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: First round number one, Me and my brother shout out. 1049 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: Ain't no free shouts to Cody Compton, but all three shots. 1050 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: Because he's a boy. 1051 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: We've obviously armchair QB this whole thing. Yep, you know 1052 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 2: what I mean. The why didn't you let him up? 1053 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the first round. Did you ever feel 1054 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 2: in trouble when he had your back? Like when you 1055 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: were because you did a great job controlling the wrist, 1056 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 2: But were you ever there's times. 1057 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 1: Where I was getting a little nervous. 1058 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, especially when you picked him 1059 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: up and slammed it down it it didn't seem like 1060 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 2: it got him off off of you. 1061 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: Were you ever feeling a little nervous about that? So 1062 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't because I really feel comfortable when someone has 1063 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: my back that they're not going to choke me. I 1064 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: can shrug my shoulders and I don't have the longest 1065 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: neck and it's like built like a pit. Yeah, you know, 1066 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: so it's like I'm not that easy to choke for 1067 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: the most part. And then when I get hit and 1068 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: I get risk control and I get a one on 1069 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,359 Speaker 1: one or I get my two hands on his one wrist, 1070 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: which is what I did. Yeah, a couple of shots 1071 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: because he had the one arm free. But but for 1072 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: the most part, I knew I wasn't letting that that 1073 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 1: bad dog go. And that's when I preached all the 1074 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: all the young guys who are out there grappling, it's 1075 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 1: like you get that one that one wrist. A, you're 1076 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna get out, and B he can't choke you. So 1077 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: I held it and I had that sucker for like 1078 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: a full minute. I think, oh, yeah, my forearms are 1079 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: sore as heck, and it's not from anything else. Was 1080 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: I's probably holding that sucker for dear life. And then 1081 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: and then I did. I usually am able to do 1082 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: exactly what I did, and he was. He is literally 1083 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: the best grappler in the lightweight division, maybe one of 1084 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: the best grapplers on the planet, most submission wins in 1085 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: the UFS, in the UFC, most submission wins in the 1086 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: UFC history. And I didn't really feel in danger, and 1087 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,959 Speaker 1: I was able to reverse it by keeping the keeping 1088 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: the two on one going over my head and spinning 1089 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,959 Speaker 1: inside of his his triangle that had around my body. 1090 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: He had long legs, so he made a figure four. 1091 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: Not right, he made a figure four in my body 1092 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: because his legs were so long, which is not an 1093 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: easy position. He squeezing the heck out of yet, yes, 1094 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: but once you start getting sweaty by that time, we 1095 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: were sweaty. Slammed him. It kind of loosened up a 1096 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: little bit. Then we kind of sat there a second. 1097 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: He threw threw a couple punches, a couple of elbows, 1098 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: but I was kind of just buying my time, waiting 1099 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: to explode. And I exploded and then got on top. Yeah, 1100 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: and then you put on a little bit of a show. 1101 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to stop the fight at 1102 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: one point. I thought, man, dude, I'm telling you, we 1103 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: were on our feet screaming. Dude. I thought that they 1104 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: were going to end up stopping the fight at that time. 1105 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: And and that's where that's where I go back and forth, 1106 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 1: because I think I think if I would have just 1107 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 1: backed off and said get up, maybe I could have 1108 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,800 Speaker 1: knocked him out. But then again, I'm I get a 1109 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: lot of finishes when I'm on top of the guy, 1110 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: just ground and pounding, you know, grounding and pounded him. 1111 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: I have good. I have pretty good. He just long, 1112 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: he's at the really long legs. He was trying to 1113 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: keep me at bay. Threw a couple of kicks, came 1114 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: back in. You know, I'm trying to you know, you're 1115 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: aiming for the temple the side of the head, hit 1116 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,759 Speaker 1: the ear, jaw obviously landed, landed some good ground, and 1117 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000 Speaker 1: pound strikes a couple of elbows cut them open. So 1118 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 1: I think I think it was a fifty to fifty 1119 00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: thing if you look at it and you think, man, 1120 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: what it should have could I probably should have just 1121 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: stood him up. We got about a minute fifteen left. 1122 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: I maybe could have finished him on the feet. But 1123 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: then again, you know, my intuition says, if I got 1124 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: a guy hurt on his back, I'm gonna be able 1125 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: to finish him on the ground. And I've done it 1126 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: numerous times in the past, so I don't I don't 1127 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,880 Speaker 1: say that that was a bad decision. I think it 1128 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: was a decision that maybe could have yielded a knockout 1129 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: or finished. But I also could have very easily just 1130 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: finished him on the ground as well, but I didn't. 1131 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: When so like when like Rogan and those guys talk 1132 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 2: about going back to your feet, Like what is the 1133 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: benefit of that other than being on your feet and 1134 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: being like Mike's better on his feet stuff like that, 1135 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 2: Like is there an extra ben like an added benefit? 1136 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: Is it? 1137 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 2: Is it that he's days and he's shaken up and 1138 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 2: you're like making him stand up, and he's gonna have 1139 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 2: to fight. 1140 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: Without all that. Yeah, So I mean conventional wisdom, And 1141 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: every fight's a little bit different, every scenario is different 1142 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 1: depending on my attributes and his attributes. But conventional wisdom 1143 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 1: would say, Okay, he just got dropped. I dropped him 1144 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 1: with the left hook, hit him a couple of times. 1145 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 1: He's on the he's on the ground, he's kind of 1146 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: like dazed. I saw the way he was looking at me, 1147 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: kind of was looking at me like a deer in 1148 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: the headlights. So to me, I say, I'm going in 1149 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: for the kill. I'm gonna knock him out on the ground. 1150 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: But I also could have just backed off, said come up. 1151 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: He would have stood up, probably would have been a 1152 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: little bit wobbly. And if I landed a couple shots, 1153 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: my power punches on the feet were going to be 1154 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: more effective than the power punches on the bottom. But 1155 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: I also had I also had the film study that 1156 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: said he'd been finished, he'd been finished on the ground before, 1157 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: and if Paul Felder can finish him on the floor 1158 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 1: or other guys can finish him on the floor, I 1159 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: could definitely finish him on the floor. So I think 1160 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: that's where I thought, Okay, I can finish him on 1161 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: the ground, or if I don't, I go back to 1162 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,280 Speaker 1: my stool confidence of sky high. He starts to wilt 1163 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,439 Speaker 1: and that's where I thought we were, and that's pretty 1164 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,240 Speaker 1: much where we were. But he just you know, landed 1165 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: something in the second round, and you know, I fight 1166 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: it out. 1167 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then at the end of the first obviously 1168 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,400 Speaker 2: you went back in at the just the last like 1169 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 2: five seconds, try to getting back in there. But is 1170 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 2: there a thought too, like fuck, I should have I 1171 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 2: should have backed up and stood up. Not in the fight, 1172 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 2: there wasn't but now now looking back at it. But 1173 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 2: that's that's the unfortunate thing about this too. You can 1174 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 2: always after. 1175 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: You lose, lose. We all know what you should could. 1176 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 1: We could have done this, and maybe it would have 1177 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: been different. Or I could have done that, and maybe 1178 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 1: it would have been different. 1179 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: So the wood I should have could have such a 1180 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,880 Speaker 2: such a tough game to play, and I try not 1181 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 2: to play it too much anymore because I also I 1182 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 2: trust myself. 1183 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I if I didn't I knew, 1184 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: I knew I did everything that I possibly could to 1185 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: be successful that night. Yeah, to have no regrets. And 1186 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: then I also know that I trust myself to be 1187 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: in the fire. I trust myself, like you know, if say, 1188 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't finish me with that flurry and I'm like 1189 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: hurt or whatnot. I trust myself. 1190 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: I know myself to go into autopilot, don't and I 1191 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 2: don't get finished, and I would have been able to 1192 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: fight for twenty twenty more minutes and I would have 1193 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 2: won the fight. 1194 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,280 Speaker 1: I truly believe that. But you know, the fight happened 1195 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: how it happened. But I don't know. I trust myself 1196 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: to make the decision right, to make those decisions in 1197 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: the heat of the moment. Yeah, and uh, you know, 1198 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't say that I made a bad decision. 1199 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: I think I made a decision, and I think, uh, 1200 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, now we get to you know, play would have, 1201 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: should have could if we want to for sure, you know, 1202 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: And I don't say that like we should or shouldn't. 1203 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's all I'm curious, what's going on. 1204 00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just curious what's going on in your mind, 1205 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:09,839 Speaker 2: like as the stuff plays out, because you know, I'm 1206 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 2: thinking in times where I should have made a different decision, 1207 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'll sit on the bench or something like 1208 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 2: I should have done this, Like next time I'll get 1209 00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 2: to see it. Obviously we get more opportunities to see 1210 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 2: it again. But like I'm just curious of the athlete, 1211 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 2: and you like when you get to the to the 1212 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 2: end of that first round, you're like, I should have 1213 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 2: just stood this dude up. Obviously you're thinking, I'm all 1214 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 2: whoop his ass in the second round. We all everyone's 1215 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 2: excited going into that second no matter what I mean. 1216 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: There was there was two ten eights on. 1217 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 1: The scorecard and one ten nine on the scorecard, right, 1218 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: so two of those two of those judges thought I 1219 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: beat him bad enough to give him give me a 1220 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: ten for sure. So so in that position, when you 1221 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: get done with the first round, I'm going back to 1222 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: the I'm going back to the stool, back to the corner, 1223 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, confidence hide. It's oh similar to if you 1224 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: mess up on the first down, you're not thinking about 1225 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: the first down, going to the second down. Third, you 1226 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: finish the drive, maybe you go back to the bench. 1227 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: Then you think about what I could have done differently, 1228 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: Like me, that's more after the fight. Now, It's like 1229 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: whereas when I went back to the stool. I'm just 1230 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: listening to my coach. Coach Henry's in front of me, 1231 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: Coach Comed's behind me. We're talking about this, that and 1232 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: the other thing. Keep it simple. Fight's going great, fight's 1233 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: going just you know fine. I mean, at this point, 1234 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 1: the best grappler on the planet took my back, wasn't 1235 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: able to finish me. And even even better, I reversed him, 1236 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: did damage beat him up a little bit, was winning 1237 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: the striking battle on the feats. I mean, it's the 1238 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: fight was going great. So it's you know, at that point, 1239 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: you're just you know yeah, because and. 1240 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 2: If you end up winning that fight, no one's even 1241 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 2: talking about the first round like you should have stood 1242 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 2: him up. This is obviously all the hindsight, like fuck 1243 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: the way you want to wake up from a dream 1244 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 2: and be like, hey, is it going to get there? 1245 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:39,520 Speaker 1: Be redone? 1246 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 2: But in the second round, man, because he barely he 1247 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 2: barely caught you, and is it like lights get fuzzy 1248 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 2: for a second, and it was such a quick turnaround 1249 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 2: that you're just like, I just gotta get I just 1250 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 2: gotta quickly get back, like you said, and get back 1251 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 2: on this siddle pilot before he because you almost get 1252 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 2: fucking out and he just catches you with that left 1253 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 2: hand to end it. 1254 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk talk talk us through that. Yeah, I mean, 1255 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: it's it's all you know, it's it's all fuzzy, you know, 1256 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 1: more than anything. But I mean yeah, I mean, I 1257 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: I remember, you remember getting hit. I mean, and I 1258 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: can also go back and watch the replay. So then 1259 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: when you watch the replay and then you think, you 1260 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: try to close your eyes and think, Okay, what did 1261 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: I actually see in the fight? You know, you get clipped, 1262 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: and then you're you know, then you're just then you're 1263 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: just moving, you're evading, you're trying to you just going. 1264 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: You go into survival mode, because I mean, there's there's 1265 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: the moments in the fight where you go into survival 1266 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: mode and you survive, and then you go into survival 1267 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 1: mode and you don't survive like this last one. I 1268 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: didn't obviously, but I've been in those positions before where 1269 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: you got to go from I'm either you know, you're 1270 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: either extreme offense or your defense or your survival mode. 1271 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: In this in this particular fight, I went, you know, 1272 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: kind of survival mode. You're you're fuzzy, you don't know 1273 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: which way is up, your your equilibriums off, and you 1274 00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: just you know you're there, but you're not really there. 1275 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 1: And then before you know it, he runs away, and 1276 00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: you're like, dang, fights over. 1277 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: Huh yeah, You're like refs right here, and you're like, well, 1278 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 2: I could argue with this, but I probably shouldn't argue 1279 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 2: with the stoppage because this guy knows what he did. 1280 00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,560 Speaker 1: I want to make an idiot of myself, you know, 1281 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 1: because we've all been there before, too, are we all? 1282 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: We all have as fans have been like why is 1283 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: he contesting that? Stop? But she was a getting beat 1284 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: up or b he tapped, And there's been fights where 1285 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: guys have tapped out completely. The guy gets up and 1286 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: runs away and then the guy's like, why'd you stop 1287 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: the fight? And you're like, dude, you did you you tapped? 1288 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: You do not remember tapping. You were obviously out, you know. 1289 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: So that's the hard part too, is it's and and 1290 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: even and I actually do I'm blessed that I actually 1291 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: got to get on the mic after the fight and 1292 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: Joe came over, because sometimes Joe doesn't do that, and 1293 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't interview the guy who lost, especially after 1294 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 1: a t K or something like that that because there's 1295 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 1: been guys who are like mumbling and humbling, they're like, 1296 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of they're still out and they 1297 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: don't really remember what they're saying or they're saying talking incoherently, 1298 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: and that's not good for the sport. That's not good 1299 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: for like Joe. Joe has like gone back on his 1300 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: podcast after on a Monday after a Saturday fight, like, yeah, man, 1301 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have interviewed that guy. You know, that was 1302 00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: that was my bad. I should have just cut it right, 1303 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, cut it. And they said, you know, in 1304 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: my ear, they said, interview him. I just knew he 1305 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: was messed up. He stumbled over me. I shouldn't have 1306 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: done that, because that's just not only is a tough spot. 1307 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: You know, the guy just got his hopes and dreams 1308 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: and heart ripped out, but he's also maybe he's not 1309 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: there coherently. But for me, you know, I was able 1310 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: to get on the mic and I set my piece 1311 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 1: and shout out to you know, Olvera, no free shouts. 1312 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: He's the world champ, you know, and and you know, 1313 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: tap hat tip to him and let people know I'll 1314 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: be back. And it's you know, it's all part of it. 1315 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: Do you know who you think you might be fighting? 1316 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't like who would be on your radar, Like 1317 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't know people stone around Gaigee people obviously what's 1318 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen after Connor and Pourier fight and like maybe 1319 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: the loser of that or something like that, Like who 1320 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: are people that would be on the radar for you? 1321 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: Well that would make that you think in your mind 1322 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: would make sense for you and possibly the UFC. Yeah, 1323 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean essentially anybody in the top five makes sense. 1324 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's this The division moves so fast. The 1325 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: sport moves so fast. I mean, that's what even with 1326 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 1: the UFC brass you know, talk to them after the 1327 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: fight and they're just like, hey, man, keep your head up, 1328 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: keep working, man. This sport moves fast. It's what have 1329 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: you done for me lately? Business? You're only as good 1330 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: as your last fight. But when your world class and 1331 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: you're in the top five, your world class, and you're 1332 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,920 Speaker 1: in the top five, and there's a I've only fought 1333 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: Dan Hooker and Charles Olivera at this point, Like you said, 1334 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: there's there's Poorier, there's get Chee, there's Connor, there's Ferguson, 1335 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: but Neil dry Yush is now in the top five. 1336 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: There's so there's there's no no shortage of guys to fight. 1337 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,520 Speaker 1: But at this point, obviously Connor and Poitier a fighting 1338 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: July tenth. We could see who the winner or the 1339 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: loser of that is. You got Tony Ferguson and just lost, 1340 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: but Neil dry USh who just came in. Traditionally, you know, 1341 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,600 Speaker 1: a guy who comes off a win fights a guy 1342 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: who comes off a win, a guy who comes off 1343 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: a loss fights a guy who comes off a loss, 1344 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: and then one guy moves up and one guy continues 1345 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: to move down. So I think, really any of those 1346 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: names make sense. I mean, the only one that's kind 1347 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: of a wild card is Connor, because Connor does Connor 1348 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: does have a little bit more say than than most guys. 1349 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: I think if Connor, if he loses this fight, though, 1350 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: if he loses this fight, he's still not gonna fight me. 1351 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,439 Speaker 1: I think me and Connor don't. Me and Connor don't 1352 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: match up well for him because he's a he's a striker, 1353 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: and I could I could grapple the heck out him 1354 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: if I wanted to. You know, like I think it's 1355 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: a it's a bad fight for him, Whereas if I 1356 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: was the champion and Connor won, Connor would go for 1357 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,800 Speaker 1: the title no matter what and fight, you know whatever, 1358 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:31,120 Speaker 1: like just like the fucking be But uh so, I 1359 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 1: mean Gaetchee or if Poorier loses or Ferguson, you know, 1360 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:38,440 Speaker 1: like those Feruson just I mean he's getting old, yes, 1361 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: but I mean but he's entertaining. Man. People love him. 1362 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: People do love like people learn. At the press conference, man, 1363 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: he broke out the greatest line of all time, freaking 1364 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Dana White privilege. It was freaking hilarious, dude. It's it 1365 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: was like for the time that we live in, Like 1366 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, obviously that's somewhat of a negative connotation, the 1367 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: whole white privilege thing, and like, but like the funniest 1368 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: ship dude, Dana White privilege, Dana White. He's like, man, 1369 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: you got this thing handed to you. Man, you got 1370 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: Dana White privilege, and Dana just and I look up 1371 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 1: at then I'm like, thanks, Dana. You know. It's just 1372 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: so man, It's it's a it's a fun group of 1373 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: it's I want to beat them all. I want to 1374 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 1: fight them all. But like, it's a fun group of 1375 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: guys to be in with. You know, we're we're gonna 1376 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,200 Speaker 1: have some fun the next couple of years. And I 1377 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,479 Speaker 1: just hope it culminates at some point with me fighting 1378 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: for the world title again. And really all that all 1379 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: that needs to happen is me win one, two three. However, 1380 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Membre fights, right, you show out the next fight, man, 1381 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: show out, next fight. Continue to show that I'm world 1382 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: class and why I'm here. And I mean, and that's 1383 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: the thing too, when it's it's it's such a crazy 1384 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: game of inches and you're fighting the best guys in 1385 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 1: the entire world. So, yeah, I lost, but I lost 1386 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: to the number three guy in the world. I lost 1387 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: to the eventual world champion. You know. Yeah, so and 1388 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: fight number twenty or I need to fight number fifteen. 1389 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: It's like, no, okay, now I'll fight number four, and 1390 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll fight number two, or I'll fight number five, or 1391 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I'll fight you know, I'm number four. I'll probably still 1392 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,760 Speaker 1: be you know, I'll probably still be number three or 1393 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: four when the rankings come out on Tuesday tomorrow. Oh 1394 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 1: so we'll know tomorrow, Yeah, pretty much. I mean, you 1395 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: lost to the eventual champion with a ten eight round. 1396 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: Well that's the thing too, I mean, you know what 1397 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, It's not like like if you lost the 1398 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: world champion on a ten a first round. Yeah, there's 1399 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: some people out there who were like, hey, immediate rematches 1400 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: go Chandler Oliver too right away. I mean that that's 1401 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: a possibility. Do I think that's gonna happen. But if 1402 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 1: I got Dana White privilege, I mean, hey, we need 1403 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that Dana White privilege. Baby for the running Beast is 1404 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: just a joke. Like the people freaking mma fans are 1405 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna hate me. This guy we hate from the beginning, 1406 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 1: and this is why we hate him now tomorrow night, 1407 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: he's just scrolling on a Twitter and Instagram and he 1408 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: just sees that one clip. Hey, if I get that 1409 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Dana White privilege, and that's all it is. 1410 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,600 Speaker 2: Well at this point, Saint, you just got to run 1411 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 2: with it, man. You know it's I mean, especially something 1412 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 2: like that, there's there's a little bit of the you 1413 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 2: know thing happening when the world with that. And then 1414 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 2: there's also the Dana White's last name and it was 1415 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 2: said by a guy named Tony by the guy liked 1416 01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 2: when he Ferguson. 1417 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, it's all part of it. But I mean, 1418 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 1: I think the general thread and not even if I 1419 01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: just take myself out of it, and I just look 1420 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,240 Speaker 1: at my body of work coming into the UFC, and 1421 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: then what I did. We just got done, Sam and 1422 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,439 Speaker 1: I came out hot. I did everything that was asked 1423 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: to me. I showed up like the blue collar Midwest 1424 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: kid with the work boots on, just like my dad. 1425 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Just I showed up with my work boots on. When 1426 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: the phone rang, I said yes one time, two times, 1427 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 1: three times every single time they called, and two or 1428 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: three other times whenever guys didn't take the fight. I 1429 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 1: was supposed to fight Tony ferguson October twenty fourth, he 1430 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 1: said no. I was supposed to fight Dustin Pooria October 1431 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 1: twenty fourth, he said no. It was supposed to fight 1432 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Tony ferguson January twenty third. He said no. And then 1433 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: even when I beat Dan Hooker January twenty third, they said, hey, 1434 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: do you want to be the co main event against 1435 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: Charles olivera February thirteenth, And I said yes. I was 1436 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 1: at Cane Prime here in Nashville. I had a stake 1437 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: in front of me. I had a glass of wine. 1438 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Got no free shouts to cap I'm m Street. All 1439 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: the restaurants are there, fucking create so and I stopped 1440 01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: eating my stake right there. I said, check please, we'll 1441 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: take it. We'll take it to go box. I was 1442 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: on a date with my wife. Hunter Campbell called and said, hey, 1443 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: do you would you do this? And I said yes? 1444 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 1: And then Charles Oliver eventually turned it down. It was 1445 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:12,960 Speaker 1: it was on three weeks notice. I was going to 1446 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: fight Charles Oliver in February thirteen. So these are all 1447 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: just the things that have happened six yes. So these 1448 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 1: are the things that have happened outside of this, the 1449 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 1: fights that I've actually had that that I think I 1450 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: was rewarded for. That's why I got the title shot. 1451 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,640 Speaker 1: You know. It's you've always stayed ready, stayed ready, And 1452 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: the UFC is the biggest and baddest promotion on the planet, 1453 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 1: and they keep things moving very fast in a forward trajectory. 1454 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,240 Speaker 1: And if you're on the on board with them, if 1455 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: you're on the wagon with them moving forward, and you're 1456 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: going to say yes, You're going to be rewarded for 1457 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: it and it and it you got to be a 1458 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: good employee first. You know you're a good employee. First 1459 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: you get put in a great position. And this is 1460 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: in the corporate world, the business world, other sports worlds, 1461 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,720 Speaker 1: or mixed martial arts. Be a good employee first, be 1462 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: a good ambassador for your organization, be a good ambassador 1463 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,240 Speaker 1: for your weight class, and a good ambassador for yourself, 1464 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 1: and then you will things will usually work out well 1465 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: for you. And I think that's why I got the 1466 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: title shot and now continue to operate with the same 1467 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: through the same vein that I have since day one, 1468 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and we'll get a fight well, and then we'll see 1469 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: what happens after that. I love it. You want to 1470 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,320 Speaker 1: do an ad? Read? Yeah, would you like to do one? Yeah? 1471 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 2: It's not like yeah, like we do it it. Yeah, 1472 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 2: slick spirited Ice. Shout out, slick spirited Ice, no free shoutouts. 1473 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 2: Also that brought to you the whole episode thing, Chandler, 1474 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 2: go ahead and take it away where it says introduction. 1475 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bro. The time has come for Happy Hour 1476 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: to finally live up to its name with the introduction 1477 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: of slick spirited ice. Slick is a brand new hard 1478 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Yes that means boozy freezer pop that is crafted with 1479 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: elevated flavors to inspire good times. 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You went 1497 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 2: low with the I tried that little undertoned voice, you 1498 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 2: know at the end. 1499 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: It was so good. It was kind of fast. Oh yeah, 1500 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I try to do a little fast paced voice. Is good. 1501 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: You did a solid job reading, like I can you. 1502 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 2: Like to read? 1503 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: He just goes in the most genuine Wait, well I 1504 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 1: can read. I can read. 1505 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 2: Oh, contrary to popular belief. Yeah, fighters can read most 1506 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 2: of us. It's surprising that you can read and found 1507 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:14,480 Speaker 2: forty eight hours ago. 1508 01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 1: But I could definitely read about slick spirited ice. Yeah. 1509 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 1: What do we got? 1510 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 3: Uh? 1511 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 2: What do we have? 1512 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 1: Alex? 1513 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 2: You have? 1514 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,640 Speaker 1: You have some stuff popped up? Did we have any 1515 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 1: fan questions? Any good ones? Any good videos? Comments? I 1516 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: need to leave in a few minutes. What time? Yeah, 1517 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 1: what time it's on? It's two fourteen. I gotta be 1518 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,439 Speaker 1: there by too. Oh yeah yeah, yeah. One one question 1519 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 1: with him and hey daddy, dude, you man, dude. I 1520 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: know one day morning took cap the school, hit the sauna, 1521 01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 1: did the bus? How often do you go to the 1522 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: YMC and hit that sauna? Uh? Just depends, I mean often. Oh. Actually, 1523 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 1: the sauna just now got back open from COVID. Now 1524 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 1: is it a It's not an infrared, it's straight hot song, 1525 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: war dish and sauna and then there's a steam room 1526 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,439 Speaker 1: as well. Would love to join you one Dreen Hills, 1527 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Let's go bro. Yeah. 1528 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 2: I was looking into going yesterday, but they were closed 1529 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 2: by the time I got home because I drove back 1530 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 2: from Missouri and uh, I wanted to sit in the 1531 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 2: ols on and sweat everything out for the weekends and 1532 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 2: partying hard for the boy for the boy. 1533 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,640 Speaker 1: But uh, but yeah, I would love to join you. 1534 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,600 Speaker 1: It's so whenever you go this week, just let me 1535 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: know when you're gonna good. What do we have here? 1536 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Jacob Jacob Schaffner. 1537 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 3: The boys shout out to go Michael Chandler. So I 1538 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 3: got two questions, one for the boys, one for Michael Chandler. 1539 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 3: For Michael, what's the difference in like a UFC title 1540 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 3: fight and a Bellator title fight? And how was that 1541 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 3: preparing in the atmosphere like in Houston? And what do 1542 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 3: you think, well, you'll change or do something different at 1543 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,280 Speaker 3: all if you do anything for your next title fight 1544 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,519 Speaker 3: in the UFC, because they obviously know you're going to 1545 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 3: be back, no doubt, greatest ever. And then for the boys, 1546 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 3: do you think you'll ever do one of those celebrity 1547 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 3: boxing matches like the Paul brothers are doing, and if so, 1548 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 3: do you think Taylor could kick Logan Paul's ass? Maybe, 1549 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 3: maybe not, but that's just the questions. Shout out to 1550 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 3: the boys, Love you Taylor and Will I guess you're. 1551 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: My dad's but see you at the top. Yes to 1552 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: see you at the time. Shout out Jacob Schefner. Thanks 1553 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,600 Speaker 1: Jacob Man. A great question because I obviously fought the 1554 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: majority of my career in Bellator, you know the number 1555 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: two organization, and the UFC has been around the longest. 1556 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I would say the biggest difference is I I won 1557 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: three world titles in Bellator, fought for the world title 1558 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: numerous times, defended the title numerous times, and they were 1559 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 1: in big crowds. They were in big arenas, the atmosphere 1560 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 1: was big. But this time was different because everybody knows, 1561 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,479 Speaker 1: or if you don't know, you're you're kidding yourself. Fighting 1562 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,720 Speaker 1: for the UFC title means you are the number one 1563 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 1: guy in the world, no ifans or butts, that's just 1564 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 1: it's just how it is. So when I was stood 1565 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 1: across the octagon from Charles Olivera, I knew the winner 1566 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: of this was become the number one guy in the world, 1567 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: and if I won, I was going to be not 1568 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 1: just the UFC World champion, but the world champion, the 1569 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 1: number one guy in the world. So I wouldn't say 1570 01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 1: there was that pressure, but there was that confident expectancy 1571 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 1: of the excitement of what it was going to be 1572 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 1: had I won the fight, and then really just you know, 1573 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: as we've talked about, the UFC is just a well 1574 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,639 Speaker 1: oiled machine. The UFC has quarterbacked and championed the entire sport, 1575 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 1: the entire industry, and built it into what it is. Essentially, 1576 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,240 Speaker 1: the other organizations there's about three or four other major 1577 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: organizations outside of the UFC. They can all just show 1578 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,560 Speaker 1: up to venues put on shows, and they don't have 1579 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: to do a ton of promotion because the UFC is 1580 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: putting on so such big shows, touching every corner of 1581 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 1: the globe, putting so much money into marketing and building 1582 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: the sport that really all the other organizations can just 1583 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 1: show up and throw fights and they'll do decently well 1584 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 1: because the UFC is building the sports. Right, That's very 1585 01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: apparent when you're there, is. 1586 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 2: It pretty dope? When Bruce Buffer is just going off 1587 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 2: introducing you. You know what I mean, Like you're like, 1588 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm in his fucking ring. He's introducing me. 1589 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,040 Speaker 1: It's it's dope, and and and even it even just 1590 01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,839 Speaker 1: some like you know, I I started watching. My teammate 1591 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 1: was on the first guy on the card, the first 1592 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 1: fight of the card, the dude that was a fucking 1593 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: banger fight. Yeah great, this guy named Sean Soriano. And 1594 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: and I was watching the fight, and then they'd say, Okay, 1595 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,840 Speaker 1: now that this fight is over, let's turn turn our 1596 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 1: eyes to what's gonna happen later tonight. And then it 1597 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: was like Chandler and Olivera and like and it's I 1598 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: I've watched so many UFC pay per views, and I've 1599 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: watched the pre limbs getting pumped up to watch the fights. 1600 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,720 Speaker 1: But this time they were talking about me. And I 1601 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,479 Speaker 1: was in my hotel room and in the window behind 1602 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: me was the Toyota Center right back there, a couple 1603 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: of hundred yards away, where I was about to report 1604 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: just a couple hours later, to go do handle business 1605 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 1: and go fight for the title that they are talking 1606 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 1: about on my computer screen right now. So it was 1607 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,840 Speaker 1: just it was cool, man, it's and Bruce Buffer and 1608 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: and they did the they did the blackout completely with 1609 01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 1: the the lights around. Yeah, I mean, which I've seen 1610 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 1: on on TV on the pay per views, and but 1611 01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,680 Speaker 1: this time it was me inside the get inside the 1612 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 1: out gun and and I just I rose to the occasion. 1613 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 1: I lost the fight, but I rose to the occasion. 1614 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 1: I had a fight. I did everything I could. I 1615 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,400 Speaker 1: didn't feel I felt like I was where I was 1616 01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 1: supposed to be. Man, Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. 1617 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,559 Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of this freaking sport. 1618 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 2: Man. 1619 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 1: You just you take your losses. You take the wins. 1620 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 1: You never you never you never take the wins for 1621 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,120 Speaker 1: granted because they aren't that easy to come by. And 1622 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: you definitely don't take the UFC title fight, the title 1623 01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,599 Speaker 1: shot for granted because those are hard to come by too. 1624 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,559 Speaker 1: So I believe we'll get another one eventually, but we'll see. 1625 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming, bro. I know you got to 1626 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 1: go be a dad. Gotta go be a dad. Man 1627 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 1: back to daddy, dude. That's good man, this is what 1628 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: I want to be though. Hey what do what do you? 1629 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 2: What do you uh you think Dana? The way Jake 1630 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 2: paul Or calls out Dana wife for not paying fighters. 1631 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 2: I man, I I don't know Dana pays me? 1632 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so, I. 1633 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 2: You know, we're we're always gonna complain about, don't we all, 1634 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 2: Like there's guys in the NFL. 1635 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: You want to make more money, like we all want 1636 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,280 Speaker 1: to make more money. We all and get I get MMA, 1637 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 1: and the UFC is a little bit different because we 1638 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 1: don't have a player's association or a union or whatnot. 1639 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 1: But we also just started what twenty eight twenty nine 1640 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: years ago, so we're still in our infancy as far 1641 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: as the sport goes. Man, as far as I'm concerned, 1642 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 1: the UFC has champion and quarterback the entire industry. And 1643 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: the only reason that we were able to make a 1644 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 1: paycheck whatsoever is because of the sleepless nights and the 1645 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,680 Speaker 1: hard work that Dana White and the Fertida brothers who 1646 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,040 Speaker 1: started the UFC bought it for two million dollars, right, 1647 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 1: they just sold it for like six billion dollars a 1648 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,960 Speaker 1: while back. Now we're owned by William Morrison Devor and 1649 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: just to see the growth of the industry. So I mean, 1650 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 1: that's that's just the way that Jake Paul, Jake Paul 1651 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 1: especially Yeah, it seems too right, It seems too outside 1652 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: of anything monetary, like the UFC is like a first 1653 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,200 Speaker 1: class in absolutely everything that doesn't have the whole monetary 1654 01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Like obviously there's arguments for the you know, I made 1655 01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:55,600 Speaker 1: this boxing like. 1656 01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 2: All the fighters in the UFC get this, But as 1657 01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,600 Speaker 2: far as everything else in the total package, it just 1658 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 2: seems like it is one of the premier organizations to 1659 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 2: be a part of. 1660 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. That and and then the other thing 1661 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,439 Speaker 1: too is we can't we can't point our finger at 1662 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 1: our promoter, when really we should be pointing our finger 1663 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 1: at the man in the mirror who is not. You 1664 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: can monetize yourself, your brand, your voice, your platform, your 1665 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 1: your sales. You can with with the platform that the 1666 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 1: USC gives you, you can become a millionaire outside of 1667 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: your fight purses with the promotion and the platform that 1668 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: they give you. Unequivocally, especially some of these guys. Look 1669 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,840 Speaker 1: where just look where my following has gone just in 1670 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,280 Speaker 1: the last couple of months, and I've only had two 1671 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 1: fights in the UFC. And if I want to monetize that, 1672 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 1: if I want to start a podcast, if I want 1673 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,040 Speaker 1: to write, you know, I mean I can, I can 1674 01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 1: read ads pretty dark. You can that the first Yeah, 1675 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: the fighter and the bloy, you know, so no free 1676 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,640 Speaker 1: shouts to the fighter and the brand that hast you know. 1677 01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,240 Speaker 1: But you can monetize a brand. You can build a brand, 1678 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 1: and you can make money outside of just your fight person. 1679 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,000 Speaker 1: So if you're mad at your promoter because you're not paid, 1680 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,600 Speaker 1: not getting paid enough inside the octagon, well take it 1681 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 1: upon yourself to take the the attention that you can 1682 01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,600 Speaker 1: grab from every single one of these fights and monetize it. 1683 01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: So that's my two cents. But I'm also a bootstraps. 1684 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,680 Speaker 1: You know. The man in the mirror is the guy 1685 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 1: who needs to do the work, not the other people 1686 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,639 Speaker 1: kind of guy anyway, So that's okay. Who can read good? 1687 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,400 Speaker 1: I can read pretty yeah, pretty good, man. I appreciate you, bro, 1688 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,559 Speaker 1: thank you for having yeah go pick up when lose 1689 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: your draw. We were coming on the bus, I know. 1690 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 1: And now that you're I heard, you're gonna be in 1691 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 1: town for a couple months. Like that's boys can hang, man, 1692 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 1: boys can hang. And you know, if Taylor gets sick, man, 1693 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,040 Speaker 1: you put me around here, I won't hesitate it. I 1694 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: won't hesitate. I don't have the mustache, but I could 1695 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,599 Speaker 1: we can figure something out about one hundred pounds less 1696 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 1: than him. Yeah, one hundred and fifty pounds less. Yeah, 1697 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: let's do that math. But appreciate you boys. Thanks boys 1698 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. 1699 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 2: Big shout out to you guys. If you enjoyed this 1700 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 2: episode and love and support Bust with the Boys, go 1701 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 2: to whatever podcast platform you're on and subscribe to us. 1702 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 2: Leave a review rate five stars. If you're already subscribed, 1703 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 2: unsubscribe and resubscribe again. 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