1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, you know, when the audience sings along with the song, 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: that's the greatest feeling in the world because you really 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: know that they've got the message at that point, you 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: like to say a shooting star or rock and roll 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: fantasy or even ought right now, you know they when 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: the audience is singing that with me, it's amazing. 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of Taking a Walk, your host 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: Buzz Night, celebrating another milestone in music history, where on 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 3: this episode we honor the birthday of one of the 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 3: greatest singers in rock and roll. Paul Rodgers has been 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: part of the soundtrack of Our Life. His band Bad 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Company was the first band signed to led Zeppelin Swan 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: Song label, and as you probably know, he and Jimmy 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 3: Page would later form the Firm. His music from Free 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: to Bad Company, the Firm, and his solo career is 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: classic rock goal. He's been praised by everyone from the 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: late Freddie Mercury to John Mellencamp for his vocals. Bad 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Company earned six platinum albums With Rogers, He's led an 20 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: amazing life and we celebrate him next on Taking a 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: Walk with Buzznight. 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: Well, I think some special birthday wishes are in order 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 4: for one of the greatest singers in rock history, mister 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: Paul Rogers. 25 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, sir. 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I'm so glad I made it this far. 27 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you now, you have had some 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 4: documented health issues and we have this other podcast that's 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: called Music Saved Me about the healing. 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: Power of music. 31 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: How important for you as you were healing and getting better? 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Was music for you? And you believe music saves us? 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, yeah, because it was very important. I couldn't 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: play acoustic guitar. I couldn't play guitar. I couldn't I 35 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: couldn't talk, I couldn't read, I couldn't write. But everything 36 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: was inside me and I knew what was going on, 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: but I just couldn't communicate outside of my own body, 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: in mind and everything else. But coming back from a 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: stroke is really an amazing journey. It really is, because 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: you you start to appreciate the little things that you 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: can't actually do, and yes, music just to continue that 42 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: little point though. You appreciate every little thing that you 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: can do and you build on that and that's how 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: you recover. And music definitely was a help because I, 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: you know, as I said, I didn't play. They couldn't 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: play it. There's an acoustics sitting there. I didn't even 47 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: know what it was. Really, I made noises with it. Yeah, 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: it high buzz. It took about a year and a 49 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: half for Paul to come back to playing guitar. He 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: started playing guitar. 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 6: What happened was he had an un dart doc to 52 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 6: me the surgery because his right left crowded ary was 53 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 6: a ninety block and that's what caused the second major stroke. 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 6: So after that surgery he was admitted, left the hospital 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 6: and we went for hyper barracks. 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 7: That was huge. That was like watching a wilted plant 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 7: come back to life. 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 6: And then when we got home after that therapy treatment, 59 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 6: I had the Steve guitar in the case on the 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 6: couch and I lifted the guitar lit up or the 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 6: case lit up, sorry, so he could see it, and 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 6: he would walk by and put it down. And this 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 6: went on for months and then finally I took the 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 6: guitar out of the. 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: Case and I knew the couch it'll get dusty, should 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 5: lay open like that, the cats will get into it. 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 6: So anyhow, he eventually took a year and a half, 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 6: but he Eventually I found him sitting on the couch 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 6: with the guitar on his lap like a. 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: Slide guitar, steel. 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 7: Guitar, and playing it, pushing both hands across the strings, 72 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 7: pushing away from his body. 73 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: And right there, you know that, right there, the vibration 74 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: of those strings. Everything really is vibration in life, you know, 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: it really is. And the vibration of the strings kind 76 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: of woke me up. It did wake me back up. 77 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, And then he started singing as a result of 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 6: being able to play again. 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 7: So it was an interesting process. Don't recommend it. 80 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 5: No, I don't recommend it, but it's certainly an interesting journey. 81 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 5: And I do a lot of meditation as well. 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: So I knew that I was cognizant, but I just 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: wasn't able to have my voice speak the words that 84 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to speak. Could I could prepare a sentence 85 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 2: and go for it, and out. 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: Would come this garbled thing? I would and I would go, 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 5: what the heck did I just say? Who could understand that? 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: And I could think very clearly. As long as I 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 5: could do that, I knew that it would come back 90 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 5: eventually to me. 91 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 4: Cynthia. It's so nice to have you on as well 92 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: with Paul. I really appreciated. Well, let me ask you, Cynthia. First, 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: does Paul roam around the house quite frequently singing all day? 94 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 5: Yes? 95 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 6: He sings every day and it's best best to concert ticket. 96 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 6: I've got front row seat. It's fantastic. I used to sing, 97 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 6: let's just put it that way. I used to sing. 98 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 6: But living with him for the past twenty six years, 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 6: I don't really sing so much anymore. 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 5: Oh, she's a good singer. Actually, she's on the album. 101 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 7: Sure are you? You're all over that? 102 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 4: What were you singing today? 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: Just by chance? 104 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 7: Oh? 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Today I was singing just a little rain falling from 106 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: the sky. 107 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: The grass list has head to the heavenly anyway. 108 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm starting to get a bit cabaret there. But yeah, 109 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: that was the Searches. That was the first song I 110 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: ever sung. Actually it was a protest sum for strensy. 111 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: By the Searchers. 112 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, what have they done to the rain? Wow? 113 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: That was magical. I had chills when you were singing that, 114 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: just so you know. Oh wow, oh man. So what 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: was the first album that you ever bought? 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Paul? 117 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: The first album was ODIs Redding's Oldest Blue and the 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: first single that I bought was his backing band Red 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: Beans and Rice. His backing band was called Booker T 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: and the MG's red Beans and Rice and on the 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: other side was Be My Lady. 122 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 5: It's a great record, not very not very popular, didn't 123 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 5: sell a lot of records, but I still have a 124 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 5: copy of that. It's really fantastic to listen to. 125 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: I love that. 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: Now. 127 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: What's the significance for you with Midnight Rose, your new 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 4: release coming out on Sun Records? 129 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 5: What's the significance? Well, it's huge. 130 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: I actually I'm very surprised and very pleased to have 131 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 2: to be on Sun Record. You know, it's it makes 132 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: a huge difference because they've got such a legacy and 133 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 2: they've got a lot of experience and I mean, you know, 134 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: you know Howling Wolf and Elvis Presley. 135 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: It doesn't get much better than that. That's that's the 136 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: full range of the music, isn't it. 137 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 3: Really? 138 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: So they've just been great. 139 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 7: As well, not bad for a lad from Middlesbrough. 140 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: I have yes, I agree with that. 141 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 7: I don't even think this was even in your dream wheel. 142 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was, because it's true because 143 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: when I when I was a kid about six year 144 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: old something like that. My best friend we got he 145 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: pulled out his elder brothers. 146 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: Elvis Presley record right and Sun record. 147 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: On Sun record of course, and we put it on 148 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: the turntable very sneakily, and we put the needle down 149 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: and we'll listen to it. It was like because that 150 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: was sacrilege because if we'd been found doing that, we 151 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: were being crucified. 152 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 5: So it was well, since my baby left me, you know, 153 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: we were like, wow, listen, that isn't great. 154 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: So the clarity was unbelievable. It was obviously vinyl, you know. 155 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, oh man, that's so beautiful. 156 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: So and your love of the blues is so well documented. 157 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you're a happy fella, but the blues obviously 158 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: takes you in a different place, is that right? 159 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I had a lot of angst if you're 160 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: like growing up as a teenager, et cetera, et cetera. 161 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: And when I discovered the blues, I did find that 162 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: by expressing any sadness that you might have had all 163 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: or other people's sadness for that matter, because we used 164 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: to we used to cover all the blues guys as records, 165 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: you know, like, well it's. 166 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 5: Four o'clock in the morning, and I'm sitting here with 167 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: that one. 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: You'll bb king and you would sing other people's blues, 169 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: but you've eventually started to sing your own over the 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: twelve bar blues. And eventually I started to write you 171 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: using the twelve bar blues, and then I expanded out 172 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: from there. The first song I wrote was Walking My Shadow, 173 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: which was my own rif don't don't, don't, don't, doodle doo, 174 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: don't do And I put that to a twelve bar 175 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: and I went wow, And I wrote lyrics, and I 176 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: thought that I've just written a song, haven't I And 177 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: that was a step forward. And I went on to 178 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: expand beyond the twelve bar, you know, and make all 179 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: the structures. 180 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 7: How old were you when you walk in My Shadow? 181 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 5: I was about I was seventeen. Wow, Yeah, just before 182 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 5: free Wow. 183 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 6: If you listen to those lyrics, if the listeners or 184 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 6: the viewers on the podcast listen to those lyrics, they're 185 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 6: pretty heavy lyrics for a seventeen year old. 186 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, you know, it's a lot of copying other people, really, 187 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,479 Speaker 5: you know, I don't require John Yeah. 188 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, but those lyrics are very unique, I think for 189 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 7: a seventeen year old for any age. 190 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I was walking along the road Amstead 191 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Bob Shua and I it was a heat wave and 192 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: I wrote that song. Well my through is dry, my 193 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: knees a week it's I went, oh, women, they're so 194 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: damn hot, I can't even. 195 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: Speak and all that stuff. I didn't know that. 196 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I had to make a riff up, 197 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 2: you know, and put it all together. 198 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. 199 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is beautiful. 200 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: Now, who are some of the favorite blues players that 201 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 4: you've encountered personally over your career. 202 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: Well, well, every blues player i've heard I like, you know, 203 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: I like Hopkins and he's a cool cut. 204 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 7: They even countered by the government. 205 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: Well guys, yeah, I saw Muddy Waters at the Marquee 206 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: in London in Waldow Street in sixty seven. 207 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 5: I think it was. 208 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: I was so impressed because by that time it was 209 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: even by then he was so much a legend and 210 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: there was a big blues boom going on in England 211 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: at the time, so blues was very popular. 212 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 5: It goes through cycles. You people often come back to 213 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 5: the blues and then it goes away and it comes back. 214 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 5: So it's kind of an Evergreen Annual. You know, I 215 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 5: saw Muddy Waters and I was so impressed that he 216 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: was like a real person, you know. He wasn't this 217 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: icon that was separate from the audience in a glass 218 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 5: bubble or and things like that. He was very personable 219 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 5: and lovely, you know. And actually I think they were 220 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 5: all a bit jet lag because the drummer. Yeah, the 221 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 5: drummer wasn't keeping time, and Muddy did not like that 222 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 5: because I think he had a few drinks. Perhaps God 223 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: bless him. You know, it happens, or used to happen, 224 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: and so Muddy. 225 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: Sort of like give the bass player the look, right, 226 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 2: and they dragged well, they lifted the drummer off. I 227 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: can't remember who the players were except for me, and 228 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: the basically I got on the drums. 229 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 5: He did the rest of the night. But so it 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 5: was so you know, it was so natural and free 231 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 5: and it was beautiful. 232 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 7: And then you've met BB King Wilson. 233 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, BB was amazing. Byby was a fantastic They invited 234 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: me up on stage and I said, you sure I 235 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: can go, and the manager said, look, yes, go on, 236 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: get it there. And I went up there and I 237 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: started to sing, I don't know whether I was supposed 238 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: to sing, but I just started singing every day. Every 239 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: day I had the blues, you know, like that, and 240 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: I suddenly realized I should not really be singing here. 241 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: And then I turned it back around and I said, well, 242 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: when you see me worry you know, baby knows yea 243 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 2: bby or something like. 244 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 5: I turned the lyric around BB's had the blues. Yeah, yeah, 245 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: And I heard it back to BB and he was like, yeah, Okay, 246 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 5: that's the way it is. I'm the blues, you know, 247 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: which is true? It was definitely Yeah. 248 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: Anyway, So what was the first time you and Can 249 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 4: entered mister Jimmy Page. 250 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: I'd have to think about that. I think I obviously 251 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 5: knew their music before I met him. 252 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: I think I met him at the at the office 253 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: actually after we had a let me let me back 254 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: troll back a little bit. We we had a road 255 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: manager in Free when we were Free and he he 256 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: left us and joined led Zeppelin's team, you know, as 257 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: a road manager. And when I was starting to get 258 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: Bad Company together, Prive calls and he came around and 259 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: he said, you should call Peter. You know, he really 260 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: wants to talk to you. I said, Peter who. He said, 261 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 2: Peter Grant, the manager of Led Zeppelin. I said, he 262 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: doesn't care what I'm doing. He said, no, no, you 263 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 2: really should call him. He really wants to talk to 264 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: And that's how my connection with Zeppelin began. I phoned 265 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Peter up and I said, so, you know, hello, Peter, 266 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: how are you blah blah blah, And he said and 267 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: I said, oh, hey, you might be interested in what 268 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: I'm doing. He said, well, I'm interested in you because 269 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: he was a Cockney guy and he's a huge, big wrestler, 270 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: you know. 271 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 5: And he said. I said, well, I come with a band, Peter, 272 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 5: and we're called Bad Company. So I said, well, I 273 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 5: don't know about the name, and the rest is history. 274 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 5: But I met Jimmy at the office having established a 275 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 5: connection with Peter Grant. We kind of, you know, we've 276 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 5: run into the Zepps all the time, you know. 277 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: And Jimmy most recently was at the the Rock and 278 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: Roll Hall of Fame. I guess he had he hadn't 279 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: been out playing in a while, and everybody's talking about 280 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: what he did there with Link Ray. It sounded pretty amazing. 281 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: Are you still in touch with Jimmy? 282 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 283 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 7: Yes, indeed, Yeah, I'm really proud that he was able 284 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 7: to do that for link. 285 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: Ray, absolutely, Yeah, because udo where they deserve. 286 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's cool because link Ray was an Indigenous player, 287 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 6: and you know here in Canada, you know, we really 288 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 6: you know, hold our indigenous culture close to our hearts, 289 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 6: and so to see that it's pretty monumental. 290 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 291 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: Jimmy, Yeah, Jimmy did a great you know, talk to 292 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: the audience about how brave he felt that link Ray was, 293 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, and the record is such a cool record. 294 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 295 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 7: Perry Merdeloff was also involved in that behind the scenes. 296 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 7: He's the fellow that Paul did the Royal Sessions with. 297 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 7: He's sort of a wizard's He's a guitarist. He's a 298 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 7: very good guitarist. He connects people, Yeah, he is. He 299 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 7: connects people. He does a lot of work with Jimmy 300 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 7: and Keith Richards and other guitarists. Yeah, he called it 301 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 7: will tell him the story about the Royal Sessions. 302 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: Well, he called me up one day because we'd often 303 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: talked about early soul music and all that sort of 304 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: stuff and Isaac Hayes and all those great people, and 305 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: he said, guess where I am. 306 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: I said, I have no idea where you are. Tell 307 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 5: me it's Perry. 308 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 7: He could be anywhere. 309 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: Oh he could be at your front door. 310 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, could be outside, that's right. So I said, 311 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm down in Memphis and there's a studio here called 312 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: the Royal Studios, and this is where a lot of 313 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: the Blues and Soul was done. And all the session 314 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: guys that were on those takes are there, you know, 315 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Steve Potts and and the Reverend Hodges, Charles Hodges. Yeah, 316 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: it was actually a really a reverend when he's not 317 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: a session, which is very cool. And he had the 318 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: big Hammond B three and all those guys. He said, 319 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: so you should come down and we'll make an album. 320 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: I said, okay, I jumped on the plane and we 321 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: went down there. We did it was amazing. 322 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 6: So those are the sort of things that Perry mrgoloff 323 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: does in life. He'll be he'll be behind the scenes, 324 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 6: but something cool and is going on. 325 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 7: Chances are Perry's had a hand in it, or a 326 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 7: finger in it, or his whole body into it. 327 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 328 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 8: We'll be right back with more of the Taking a 329 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 8: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 330 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: Tell me about your experiences with the great Jeff Beck. 331 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: Wow. Yeah, well, Jeff Beck. We did so much together 332 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 5: over the years. We did a what's that movie we did? 333 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 5: We did a movie together. I can't remember what it was, 334 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: the music for the movie. The music for the movie. Yeah, 335 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 5: what was it we did? 336 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: I can't remember just now forgive Yeah, there was one was. 337 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: But anyway, he was on the tribute to Muddy Waters 338 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: and there was a lot of great musicians on that 339 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: and by the time I called him up and by 340 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: the time we spoke about it, he wanted to do 341 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: the whole album. And I said, well, Jeff, I can't 342 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: give you the whole album because we've got other people. 343 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 7: We had David Gilmour, Brian. 344 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 5: May, yeah, slack body guy. But there was there were 345 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 5: three tracks left and he said, I'll do them all 346 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: and he did the three tracks that were left at 347 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: that time, and it was fantastic. He was in a 348 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: league of his own. It's such an awesome bit player. 349 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 7: Yeah. The last tour we did of the US it 350 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 7: was Free Spirit, so we had Jeff with Jeff and 351 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 7: Anne Wilson and Deborah Bonham. That was quite a It was. 352 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 6: So surreal to be because we would flip flop with 353 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 6: Jeff on closing, So on the nights that he would close, 354 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 6: we'd be dining in our dressing room and Jeff Beck. 355 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 7: Would be serenading us. And it was so surreal because 356 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 7: he was my number one guitarist and I would just 357 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 7: sit there and movie, eating and go. It doesn't get 358 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 7: any better than this, you know. Yeah, what a sweetheart, 359 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 7: What an innovator? 360 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 361 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, how did he make it all look so easy? 362 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 5: Well? 363 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: I think it was easy for him him, but probably not, 364 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's probably there's another saturg from his point 365 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: of view, but it seemed it did seem so very easy. 366 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, very focused individual, Jeff like laser focused. 367 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, very I loved the record he made with Rod Stewart, 368 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: The Truth Album. There are a couple of tracks on 369 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 5: there that still blow my mind. Really shapes of things, 370 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 5: share shapes. 371 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 2: That one, you know, and the guitar solo in that 372 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: is just out of this world. 373 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: I love it. 374 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the body of work with Bad Company 375 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 4: was so unbelievable. Do you think it hurts bands when 376 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: they're marketed as supergroups? 377 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Well? 378 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: Who knows, you know. I mean we were marketed as 379 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 5: a supergroup. 380 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Just literally because the last member we got with, which 381 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: was Buzz, had spent a couple of months with King Crimson, 382 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 2: So so that meant we were free with what the 383 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: hoopl and King Crimson. So that I understand that's the 384 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: record company's desire to promote you, you know, so it's 385 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: it's not a bad thing. You know, you do have 386 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: to de of the goods having called yourself a supergroup 387 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: though that's true. 388 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say the band did deliver the goods well, 389 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 4: thank you, I mean unbelievable. So I'm gonna cite a 390 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: particular favorite of mine. There's so many of them from 391 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: Bad Company, but I'll cite a particular favorite, Silver. 392 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: Blue and Gold. 393 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 4: Do you remember about the creation of that, not only 394 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: lyrically but musically and then in the studio and everything? 395 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, I wrote that on a world? Remember 396 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 2: that be the I've got to get another world. It's 397 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: one of these days. They're they're very rare item now 398 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 2: to get a good one. In fact, Perry's on the 399 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: market period. But there's such a great piano. They they're 400 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: they're electronic electric piano, you know, but they've got a 401 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: feel to them when you when you when you hit them, hard. 402 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 5: They growled. 403 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: You know, they've got a distoryed sort of distorted to them, 404 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: like an edginess, or you can play them very gently anyway, 405 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: very good piano. 406 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: And I wrote silver, Blue and Gold on that in a. 407 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: In a little beds that I was living in in 408 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: in Putney in London, and the first the first title 409 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: was silver and gold. 410 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: But then I thought, we'll give me silver now blue 411 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 5: and gold the color of the sky and. 412 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: Tool, you know, And I wrote that like that and 413 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 2: took that to Pontois where we were Bad Company were 414 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: due to a record. 415 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 5: I think it was what was Run of the Pack, 416 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 5: wouldn't it on the Run with the Pack album? 417 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: It is. 418 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 4: It is one of the greatest songs ever. 419 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: I have to tell you. 420 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you, Buzz, you know, and as well, 421 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 2: I have to point out mixed guitar playing is just 422 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: superb on that, just superb. 423 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 5: The soul is so perfect for the track. 424 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 2: It's so delicate and sweet and those high notes they 425 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: play plays it's just great. 426 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: Buzz. 427 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 7: What about that track speaks to you? 428 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: Okay, oh my god, It's just it lifts me up. 429 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: It's just it tugs at my heart. It lifts me 430 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 4: up and it's you know, like a lot of those 431 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: in the audience. It's part of the soundtrack of certainly 432 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 4: My Life. 433 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, that's awesome, man. 434 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: But I could say that about so many of the 435 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 4: songs as well. What do you think is the secret 436 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 4: sauce to bands and their collaboration. 437 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: I think that the the nucleus or the basis of 438 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: any band is their songs. If they can write songs 439 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: and then play them, that's pretty much the secret. And 440 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: that's how we started out with Free. We were playing 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: a lot of blues in the set, and I said 442 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 2: to Andy, you know, we should we should try and 443 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: do what everyone was doing then, like people like The Cream, 444 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 2: like the Cream Cream, Jimi Hendrix and all those guys. 445 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: They were playing their own material so that they had 446 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: their own story and their own voice in a way, 447 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, And I said, we should concentrate on, you know, 448 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: moving away from the blues a little bit and just 449 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: focusing on our own material. 450 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 5: And we wrote all the way to All Right Now, 451 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 5: and it was really good. 452 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: But there was one song we couldn't not do on stage, 453 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: even though we were doing the whole set of our 454 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: own material, and that was the Hunter and with Albert 455 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 2: King The Hunter, which is still a great record. It's 456 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: on the Born under a Bad Sign album, and Born 457 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: on a Bad Sign itself is a great song, great record. 458 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: We couldn't get off the stage without playing The Hunter. 459 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: So I said to Andy, let's write. Let's try and 460 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: write a song that is at least as good as 461 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: The Hunter, and even something that everybody can sing along to, 462 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: you know, something simple like you know, like all now baby. 463 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: And I said, well, maybe that's it, and he took 464 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 2: that away and came back with. 465 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 5: Bomb bomb bum and all that. 466 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: You see. 467 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: So I had to write the lyrics, and so it 468 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: was like I wanted to end up with all right now. 469 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 2: So something happened before. What happened before? Well it's a 470 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: boy mate's girl story. And there she stood in the street. 471 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: What was she doing, smiling from a head to her feet, 472 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: big smile, And I said. 473 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: Hey, what's this? 474 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: And the lyrics just flowed out like that and we 475 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: did that song that night. Anyway, basically, to come to 476 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: your question, come back to your question. The point is 477 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: I think that you collaborate by collaborating, really by getting 478 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: together and making it work. 479 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: How does it make you feel when You either see 480 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 4: your fans listening to the music as you're performing it 481 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: and you know you're connecting with them, or you meet 482 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: a fan and they tell you how their music, You're 483 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 4: me music has connected with them. 484 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: How does it make you feel? 485 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 4: Well? 486 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: You know, when the audience sings along with the song, 487 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: that's the greatest feeling in the world because you really 488 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: know that they've got the message at that point. You know, 489 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: like to say with Shooting Star or rock and roll 490 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: Fantasy or even all right Now, you know they when 491 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: when the audience is singing that with me, it's amazing. 492 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's a buzz. 493 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 6: A memory I have is when we were playing Queen 494 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 6: plus Paul Rodgers Run tour and we were playing in Kharkov, 495 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 6: the Ukraine, and there were three hundred and fifty thousand 496 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 6: people at this concert and it was a benefit concert 497 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 6: for AIDS research and the people could not speak English, 498 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 6: but they knew all of the words to all right Now. 499 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: And for me, that was a moment that's, you know, 500 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 6: stuck in my mind. I thought, Wow, how amazing. You know, 501 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 6: they don't really know what they're saying, but yet they 502 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 6: know all of the words. 503 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: But they feel good saying it, and it brings people 504 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: together to I mean, you're such your an army then 505 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: basically you're all singing together. 506 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 7: Your plan. 507 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 5: You're a clan. That is such a joyful experience of togetherness. 508 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: You know. 509 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, but have you listened to the new album? 510 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's joyous. I think it's uh, it's 511 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 4: it just really has an incredible spark and spunk to it, 512 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: and it's it's tremendous. 513 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: Thanks buzz you get you get it good? Yeah, do 514 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: you have a favorite track at all? 515 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 4: I I you know what, I've gone through it and 516 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: just kind of listen you start to finish, and uh, 517 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 4: that's kind of how I've I've digested it, to be 518 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: honest with you. 519 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. You know I listened to it. You know, 520 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: it's a long time. 521 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: It takes a long time, uh, after you've mixed the 522 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: album and got it all done, to listen to it 523 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 2: just as it is as it sounds as a listener, 524 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: would you know, normal like first time listener would hear it. 525 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: It's it's because you hear all the things that what 526 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: you were struggling with went through the process of recording it. 527 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: You know, I remember, for the shooter and all this 528 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 2: kind of stuff we would struggle. I would struggle with 529 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: and living it up too. I wanted to get hit 530 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 2: the right mark, the right tone, and I tried a 531 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: number of you know, lyrics to it, and all that 532 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 2: kind of stuff went on. But now that it's just 533 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 2: there and there's nothing more you can do. It's mixed, 534 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: it's produced. 535 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 5: It's everything. 536 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: I can just listen to it as a normal person would. 537 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: I think it's quite a good album. 538 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 5: Even with that. 539 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 4: I like just listening just as if it's you know, 540 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: back to the pure album days, you know. 541 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah. 542 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: Always exciting was it when you got an album home 543 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: and it was a great big cover, you know, and 544 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: all the artwork and you pulled out this vinyl and 545 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: there it was. I mean, it was a great moment 546 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 2: when I pulled out my our vinyl and there was 547 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 2: Sun Records on the label in the center. 548 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 7: Whoa. 549 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it took me back to the childhood days when 550 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 5: we pulled out el espress. Yeah. 551 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 4: Well, in closing, so let's let's play a little bit 552 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: of a mystical uh imagination game here. So you're able 553 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: to go into the studio with anybody either in your past, 554 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: of your career that you've been with living or dead, 555 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: or someone you haven't been in a studio with. 556 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: In your career. Who would that session be with? 557 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 5: Probably Holland Wilf when it recorded Smoke Stock Lighting. 558 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: Woll Smoke, Staggled Lightning, Yeah, yeah, knows. 559 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 7: On drums, you tell me something, well, I think Andy 560 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 7: Fraser on bass or Pino Palladino. 561 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, Bozz was pretty good to you. It was players. 562 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 6: Okay, who do you want on drums? 563 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: I'd have John Bonham on drums, Oh yeah. 564 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, and then on keyboards. 565 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. 566 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 7: Or Spike Edney too from Queens. 567 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: He's very good soul too for players. 568 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 6: Okay, so this is like a symphony rock band. And 569 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 6: then what about well, I know on guitar. 570 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: On guitar, well, well off actually. 571 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 7: And how about a little bit Jimmy Hendricks. 572 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 5: Oh well he's not bad. 573 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 6: You could do vocals, oh you and Jimmy. 574 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: Actually I leave it to to Jimmy to halem Wolf 575 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: to be honest. 576 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: Voice. 577 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. 578 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 5: Like a single play at thirty three and the third 579 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 5: the way he sang. 580 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, so you'd be the producer of this. Yeah, yeah, 581 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: I'd be the manager. 582 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 4: Oh well, I'm so grateful for this time. 583 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Cynthia, Paul, and Paul. Happy happiest of birthday. 584 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: To you and great health and thanks for the joy 585 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 4: that you've you've given us with all of your music 586 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: and that you continue to give us with your music. 587 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: Thanks for this virtual edition of the Taking a Walk Podcast. 588 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: It's really been fantastic. 589 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 5: Well, thank you. It's been my playing buzz it has. 590 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 7: It's been a buzz buzz. 591 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: Thank you Cynthia, thank you, Paul. 592 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 7: Take care and I love your dog picture. Is that 593 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 7: your dog Espaniel? 594 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: That's Elmer. 595 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 7: Elmer. Oh, he's gorgeous. 596 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: Thank you, You're bless you both. 597 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 5: Bless you to take care of. 598 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 599 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: Walk Podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 600 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: and follow us so you never miss an episode. 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