1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: It's that time time time time walking loot. So Michael 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Verie Show is. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: On the air. 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: There was some friends last night and at the end 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: of the dinner. 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 3: They are very healthy people and you know, small portions, 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: very healthy foods. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: They're not. 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: They didn't grow up like I did. There's no fried 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 3: chicken here, right. We're not priding ourselves on how much 11 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: we eat, so I have to be on my best behavior. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Food was phenomenal. I had chicken. My wife had fish. 13 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 3: My wife would eat fish at every meal. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: She could not me, not me. If I'm eating fish, 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be fried. Yep. And you know, where 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: was I the other day? 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Where was I the other day? I could not get 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: fried catfish? And I could not believe they would not 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: They did not have fried No, it wasn't Dante's third 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: level of Hell. It was somewhere that I would have expected. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: And they said, no, we have drum, but not catfish. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't want drum. Yeah, the drums one, lizit is 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: girlfriend's house. Uh what what where was that? Hold on? 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Let me think about this. It was me and n 25 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: though and I decide I'm going to have Oh, I 26 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: can't remember anyway, did I. 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: Ever tell you my story about Charles Clark a brasserie 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: nineteen So a lot of restaurants, if you go in 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: and ask for catfish, which what I grew up on, 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: they will make comments like ew, I've been told by 31 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: a restaurant owner I will not name when I said, 32 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: how come I don't fried catfish? That catfish is a 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: trash food. Be that as it may. We can start listen. 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: Your wife's got a tattoo that's begun to sag. 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Let's not kid it. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: I don't know who said that to me, and I 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: don't know if that person that was. I shouldn't say that, 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 3: because whoever it was probably listening to the show, and 39 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 3: I'll be accused of insulting his wife when that's not 40 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: what I'm meant to do. 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, I have been. 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: Told before that catfish is a trash food, which I 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: think is ridiculous. Catfish is a delicious food. It's a 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: bottom feeder. Wait a second, what fish are you eating? 45 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: And do they just did they just float on top 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: of the water. 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: Anything beneath the surface is beneath them. Literally, Ah, bottom feeder? 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: What does that even mean? When you're eating the flesh 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: of a fish. 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 4: What are you? 51 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it's a bottom feeder. What do you think I'm 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: down there nibbling on the bottom of the lake. What 53 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: kind of stupid people have? 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: What's it? 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? 56 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: It's vegan. I mean, what do I care? Honestly, what 57 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: do I care? 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: If you really want to get down into your food source, 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: whether meat based, fish based, or whatever else. And before 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: you tell me how nasty pigs are, let me fry 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: you some bacon and you have some of it, and 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: you tell me how. 63 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: Nasty that pig was. 64 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: Whoa. 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Let me get you a delicious pork chop m and 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: let's talk about how honestly. 67 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, can I need to get back to my fish? Yeah, 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: plus some bacon. Oh yeah, I don't eat pork. Are 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: you Jewish? You're Jewish? I just don't dig on swine. 70 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: And that's all I'm going there. 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: Hold on. 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: The delivery of John Travolta in the way he says, 73 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: are you Jewish? Like half kind of jabbing at him, 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: but half kind of asking, knowing good and well he's not. 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: Travolta in this role is so good and it's so 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 3: different than the way he he's sort of off handis 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: are you Jewish. 78 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: Do they get puts some bacon? Oh man, I don't 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: eat pork? Are you Jewish? Iin' Jewish? I just don't 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: dig on swine, that's all. Why not bigs a filthy animals? 81 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't eat filthy animals. 82 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, my bacon tastes good, taste goody sword rat man 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: taste like punkin pine. But I never know, because I 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 5: wouldn't eat the filthiess big sleep and group, and that's 85 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: a filthy animal. I ain't need nothing, ain't got sense 86 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 5: enough to disregard his own ccs. 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: Having a dog dog eats his own feces. 88 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't eat dog either, yea. But do you consider 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: a dog to be a filthy animal? 90 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 5: I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 5: but they're definitely dirty. But the dogs got personality. Personality 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 5: goes the wrong line. 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: So by that rationale, if a pig get a better personality, 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: she ceased to be the animal. 95 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: Is that true? 96 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: Well, we have to be talking about what he. I mean, 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: he had to be tenathmo Chiman in that armold on 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 5: green ankles. 99 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 100 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: Good dialogue, good writing is lost in most films great 101 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: films should have wonderful writing, and that's one of the 102 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: things that Tarantino does so well. If you haven't seen 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: the movie Vengeance, it's by bj what's his name, b 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: B Jay. I can't think his name. I can't think 105 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: of his name. Guy's from New York. But it's about Texas. 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: It's what's set in Texas. The BJ Novak you've seen it. 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: The dialogue in that there's some scenes. There's some discussions 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: of water burger that you better not drink anything while 109 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: you're watching that movie, or you will spew them out 110 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: of your mouth. 111 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: Like the Church It laid layout to sea. 112 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: It will blow your mind how good the dialogue, and 113 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: then you will be There's an opening scene of bj 114 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: Novak and John Mayer, two buddies, and they go to 115 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: parties kind of like a wedding crasher type thing, and 116 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: they're telling stories about the their their conquest. Anyway, so 117 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: back to my story. So we have this meal and 118 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: then at the end of it, they put on this 119 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: plate these very beautiful hand painted pieces of art. Well, 120 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: I know that sometimes I can ask questions that make 121 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: people uncomfortable, So I don't know if you can eat 122 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: that art because it's honestly too pretty, but it might 123 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: be a chocolate. 124 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: And it was presented on a. 125 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: T on a plate with on a plate with some macaroons. 126 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: So I said, oh man, these are gorgeous, thinking, you know, 127 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: trying to trying to flush out what exactly they were, 128 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: and I said, wow, these are these are really pretty. 129 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: So I pick it up in hopes that by picking 130 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: it up. 131 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: I might you know, if it crumbles in my hands 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: or when I set it back down, if there's some 133 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: color on my finger, then that means. 134 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: That it was a chocolate. And there's maybe six of. 135 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: Them on the plate, along with about four my karooms, 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: and you if you saw them, well, I'll explain it 137 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: in a minute if I side. 138 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: With the judgment. 139 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: Michael Vary Show. So finally I kind of hemmed and 140 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: hauled around this thing. I've twisted it over in my hand. 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 3: I've held it for a while, and this couple are 142 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: very good friends of our. She says, it's the best 143 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 3: chocolates I've ever had, And I hope that my body 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: language did not reveal Oh, okay, it is a chocolate. 145 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: Now I say that to compliment the thing, because it 146 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: was truly a work of art. It was something you 147 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: might have bought at a museum. I mean it was 148 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: incredibly obviously hand painted and just it had it had 149 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: a like a gloss over it, like a like a 150 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: you know when they'll do classic cars or hot rod 151 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: cars and then they put I don't know what it is, 152 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: it's like a glaze over it. So it almost seems 153 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: like the color is an inch like yeah, like a 154 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: lacquer type deal. 155 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, So it was that. 156 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 3: So I bite into it. It looked like a ladybug. 157 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 3: It was half orange, half green. The coloring scheme one 158 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: the hump of a ladybug. 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: And I said, wow, what is that? And she said 160 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: carrot cake. Not only did it. 161 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: Look amazing, it tasted amazing. No, we didn't then kick 162 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: poor people. 163 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: I ate more. 164 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: And it was an awkward situation because I was the 165 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: only one eating them. There are four of us at 166 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: the table, and there were six of them that and 167 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: so I had my one, and in my mind I thought, okay, 168 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: if you have two, not everybody can have two. But 169 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: my wife every year takes a vow. She gives up 170 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: something every year. It's an Indian thing, and so this 171 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 3: year it's sweets. Oh, she went wrong one year. She 172 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: said for five years, I'm not eating meat or sweets. 173 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: I thought, well, what else? And you know she doesn't drink, 174 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: so what else is there? Oh, and she did it 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: for five years? 176 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: She did it? 177 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Anyway back to it. 178 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: So I've already processed that if I have the second one, 179 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: not everybody can have two. 180 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: So it's already kind of one of those moves. 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: But I thought, well, noneth, that's not going to eat 182 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: any So technically there's three of us, so there's two each. 183 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: And just so when I took my second, when I 184 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 3: was clear, I said, sweetheart, are you going to eat 185 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: any No, she wouldn't, but to tell them, I'm telegraphing 186 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: to them I can have this second one without overstepping 187 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: the bounds. And she said, no, you go ahead, all right, 188 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: So I hit number two. We started with six. Now 189 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: there's four left. I've had two. There's two of them. Well, 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: how do I convey Suddenly I'd like another one. So 191 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: everybody's sitting and we're talking, and I'm like a child, 192 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: just focused on those chocolates. 193 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: And so I waited a little while and I kind 194 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: of reached out a little. 195 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: And I finally I picked one that was different than 196 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 3: and I said, I'm sorry to touch this, but I 197 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: just have to see it, and the husband said, oh, 198 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: have it. 199 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So I waited, awhile and waited a while. 200 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: We're thirty minutes into nobody else ha's eating one except 201 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: for me, and I finally just said, I feel like 202 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: it's appropriate if I have a fourth foot, and. 203 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: Before long there weren't any left, and I went home. 204 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: So before I said, where do you get these? And 205 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: she says it's called mostly. 206 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: Chocolate, and she gives me the lady's name and she 207 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: does catering, but really it's it's a chocolate thing. I said, okay, 208 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: So Ramon, let's see how much you know. If I 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: were to tell you that the maker of these chocolates 210 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 3: is from a place in the world that if you 211 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: go to a restaurant, I mean, if you go to 212 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: a shop anywhere in America and it's high end chocolates, 213 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: I mean three or four dollars per little tiny chocolate, 214 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: where would you guess she's from. There's two countries they're 215 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: most likely from. There's a number one that's the obvious number. 216 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: So okay, Switzerland, good guess, all right, I'll give you 217 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: cre there's three places they could be from. Not Belgium, 218 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: because the Belgians do chocolates, but they don't do them 219 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: like this. Let me let me tell you if a place, 220 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: if a place sells these, not necessarily makes although they 221 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: do make things. It's where they're always from. And there's 222 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: a lot of these in ustances, probably ten of them 223 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: like this in Uselans. No, it's where people are from 224 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: that will have high end chocolate shops. They will also uh, 225 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: it'll also be a coffee shop. Then they'll have like 226 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: a fresco dining. People will be sitting out and smoking 227 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: cigarettes in the middle afternoon, addressed to the nines. In 228 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: Italian clothing, the women will be beautiful. They'll all be 229 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: wearing shades. Uh. Italy is a good guess. It's it's 230 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: where you see a lot of these people vacationing. It's 231 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: not sweets, not sweets, not Italy. Focus on the chocolate. 232 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: It'll be chocolates. It'll be uh, what's the Greek thing? 233 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 3: I like baclava? 234 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: Chuck? Yeah, they do. Shut your filthy mouth. I'll love it. 235 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: Everybody loves bacla ba. 236 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: See why don't you want We're on a positive training. 237 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: It'll always it'll be chocolates. It might even be some 238 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: real high end Italian, some gelato coffees. 239 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Germans don't do that. Lebanese. They're always Lebanese. What are 240 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: you doing? Everybody would guess Lebanese. 241 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: Everybody that knows anything, You don't pay attention to anything. 242 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: The number one most likely place they would be from 243 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: and they would be is Lebanese, followed by Irani. I'm 244 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm telling you anybody that knows knows. So I looked 245 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: this place up. It's called mostly Chocolate. Their website is 246 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: mostly HTx dot com. Joomp, Yeah, like most of it. 247 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: Now listen to this, I'm thinking, oh, now, these people 248 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: like chocolates right. The woman's name is Rena Kumkagi and 249 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 3: says Rina's passion for cooking began when she was just 250 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: a child. 251 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: Hey this music. 252 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 3: Growing up in Lebanon, Rena was taught by her mother 253 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: to create delectable Lebanese dishes and pastries. From working closely 254 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: with her mother, her love for cooking and food flourished. 255 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: As she got older, Rena realized her passion and natural 256 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 3: talent for cooking was more than just a hobby. When 257 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: she crafted a pistachio filled chocolate pastry. Let me to 258 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: read that again, a pistachio filled chocolate pastry to serve 259 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: over Thanksgiving. Her friends were astounded by the delicate texture 260 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: and full flavor of her pastry, and she was convinced 261 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 3: to replicate the pastry for a friend's wedding. Inspired to 262 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: share up in her craft, Rina completely specialty courses completed, Sorry, 263 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: completed specialty courses with local Houston chef and chocolatier on 264 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: a go Mess. So this one was a chef and 265 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: a chocolateier. We're about to talk about chocolate worse than 266 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 3: Somlie's do. This is like a PhD of chocolate along 267 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 3: with local Houston chef and chocolateer on a Gomez and 268 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: then went on to attend the Chocolate Academy in Saint 269 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: Hyacinth in Montreal, Quebec with world renowned choclateier Christophe Morel. 270 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: Y'all are getting way too serious about chocolate here, Okay, 271 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: So then it talks about her catering. Then here's her son. 272 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: Rena's son, Danny Komkagi, joined the team in twenty eleven. 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 3: His endless drive and passion blah blah blah blah. After 274 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: various internships studying under renowned master chocolatiers in New York 275 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: and Montreal, Danny became head chocolateer in twenty fifteen. 276 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: Since then, he's gone on to win various. 277 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: Prestigious national and international awards, the three Dessert Brand Champion 278 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: Bucket Awards at the HLSR Houston Livestock Show Rodeo Best 279 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: Bites competition for the Goat Cheese Truffle, Bocan Pie Truffle, 280 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: and hazel Nut and Pop Rocks, a first place gold 281 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: finish in the International Chocolate Award America's competition, second place 282 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: silver finish in the internationals Chocolate Awards World. These people 283 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 3: are getting real serious about chocolate. 284 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Michael Mary Show. 285 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: I got a call from my friend Buck Sexton of 286 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck fame, and I've actually known Buck since 287 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: before the Clay and Buck days. Buck has a history 288 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: at the CIA and really just an interesting guy. And 289 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: Buck and I had share a passion for military history 290 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: and great stories of how much you loved your mom 291 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: and how much you loved your dad. I actually met 292 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: Buck's dad. Buck and I were having dinner in Miami 293 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: a couple of years a few years ago, and his 294 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: dad Mason was there. And his dad Mason little known fact. 295 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if Bucks ever told the story. And 296 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't get to listen to the show because I'm 297 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: doing my show while they're doing their show. But his 298 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: dad Mason was a driving force behind the movie about 299 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: Elliot Spitzer, who was the governor of New York. You 300 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 3: know love Potion number nine, the client number nine who 301 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: was brought down in the escort sting. But anyway, so 302 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: Bucks said, Hey, I know this guy Nathan Canastero, and 303 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: he's written a book called The Mighty Moo. Let me 304 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: send you some details on it. You might be interested, 305 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: And I was. It's one of those great stories that 306 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: needs to be told. So many books are written because 307 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: of ego or to capitalize on celebrity. 308 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: You know some guys on TV. 309 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: If you look at the best selling book list at 310 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: any given time today, this wasn't always the case. Most 311 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 3: of the guys on there and gals have shows, and 312 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: so it's more of a distribution outlet than it is. 313 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: You know, Dostoevsky having a story that he's got to tell, 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: or ain Rand who needs to share her message and 315 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: can't get it out broadly enough. The reason to tell 316 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: a story is because the story is so compelling that 317 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: it's bubbling out of you. And whether you ever make 318 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: a dime or get rich off of it, or achieve celebrity's, 319 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: that's the stories I want to hear. So Nathan Canastero 320 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 3: is the guy that Buck told me about. Originally at 321 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: Tennessee and from Knoxville, Tennessee, but he lives outside of 322 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: DC for the last twenty five years. A professional intelligence 323 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: officer with the federal government. He served in the Middle 324 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 3: East during the War on Terror, and he's now an 325 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: assignment to the National Intelligence Council. But really, Nathan's not 326 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: the star of this show. He's just the conductor for 327 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 3: a symphony. That is a little journey we're going to 328 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: take together, and I think you'll enjoy. He's written a 329 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: book called The Mighty Moo, and I know what it's about, 330 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: but you don't. Neck you don't yet, you're about to. Nathan, 331 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: tell us why you wrote this book and what this 332 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: book's about. 333 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 4: Please, Well, first, thanks for having me on. I really 334 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: appreciate the opportunity. This was kind of a It started 335 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: as a journey of discovery about my grandfather, and I think, 336 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 4: you know, my grandfather was a lot like many men 337 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: of his generation. He was a Pacific War veteran in 338 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 4: World War Two, served aboard an aircraft carrier in the 339 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: USS Cowpens, but he saw a lot of action, and 340 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: he didn't want to talk about the war, you know, 341 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: And like you, I'm I'm interested in military history, always 342 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: have been. You know, I grew up with band of 343 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 4: brothers and saving Private Rye, and you know, sort of 344 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 4: the big media public, you know, culture sort of shows 345 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 4: about the Second World War. So I was fascinated by 346 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: sort of trying to learn more about what my grandfather did, 347 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: and he just he wouldn't talk about it, and when 348 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: I tried to draw it out of him, it brought 349 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: him to tears. So you know, I felt terrible first off, 350 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: because I'd made my grandfather cry, and then also, you know, 351 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 4: I didn't I was afraid the story was going to 352 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: be lost. And so when Grandpa passed in twenty ten, 353 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 4: you know, I said, well, you know, I researched military 354 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: conflict for a living for the government. Why don't I 355 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 4: just see what I can find out on my own 356 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: about Grandpa's service, and see, you know, see if I 357 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 4: can discover what he wouldn't tell me. And you know, sadly, 358 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 4: most of my grandfather's story he took to the grave 359 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: with him. He was both an enlisted man and a reservist, 360 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: and you know, those were not really priorities for the 361 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: Navy in terms of its record keeping. You know, mostly 362 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: it was about the officers and you know, the big 363 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: the admirals and sort of important people. But in sort 364 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 4: of picking up the story and trying to follow my 365 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: grandfather's steps as he went across the Pacific, I found 366 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: this really amazing story about his ship. And I turned 367 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: to my girlfriend at the time, down my wife, and 368 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: I said, there's a book here. You know, I consider 369 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 4: myself fairly well informed about the war, and I just 370 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: never heard of this, and you know, essentially sort of 371 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: in a nutshell, you know, my grandfather was aboard the 372 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: ship that the Navy initially didn't even want. You know, 373 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: the captain had been scapegoaded for losing his last ship. 374 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: The pilots self trained in the planes they'd fly into battle, 375 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: but the crew had been in uniform, Me and my 376 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: grandfather barely longer than the ship had been afloat. I mean, 377 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: everybody was new to the navy, and when they got started, 378 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 4: they had this terrible jinx. They survived, you know, a 379 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: deadly typhoon. They earned a distinguished combat record, and at 380 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 4: war's end there was only one American aircraft carrier in 381 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: Tokyo Bay to witness the Japanese surrender, and that was 382 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: my grandfather's carrier of the USS Calbut I'm like, what, 383 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: how did how did I know this story? 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: This is amazing, so that that is you know, Nathan, 385 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm so glad you told this story. And the book 386 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: is called The Mighty Moo, and Nathan Canastero has written 387 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: it because I have a theory that I tell often 388 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: that if you asked the person in front of you, 389 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: what's your what's your grocery store of choice? 390 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: Where do you grocerrate? 391 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: Oh, we've got a safeway right up the road. 392 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: If you ask the person in front of you and 393 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: behind you in line at the safeway the right three questions, 394 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 3: you're standing next to a gold medalist, the guy who 395 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 3: was in front of the tank at Tenement Square, a 396 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: refugee from an African communist nation who's going to end 397 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: up winning a Nobel Prize. 398 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: You just don't know right, and there are all these stories. 399 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 3: Marcus Latrell's a dear friend of mine and I say 400 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: all the time, Mark, and he's kept a. 401 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: Diary since he was eight years old. He still keeps 402 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: a diary every day. Marcus. 403 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: The amazing thing is not your loan survivor's story. The 404 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: fact that the things that happened. The amazing thing is 405 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: that you reduced it to writing. Because if that doesn't happen, 406 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: I don't know Marcus Latroll. I don't know the name, 407 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: I don't know acts, I don't know deeds. 408 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know those guys. 409 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 3: And so you think about this, people will say to me, 410 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 3: you know, can you forward this to Marcus Latrell? Can 411 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: can he come and speak at our Evan? And Marcus 412 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: is this sort of god man because he's Marcus Latreull. 413 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is if he didn't write 414 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 3: the book and then Peter Berg doesn't. 415 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Make the movie, you don't know about him. 416 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 3: And he's just some big, burly guy with a bunch 417 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: of tattoos and a scowl on his face walking past 418 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 3: you in the store that you wonder if he has 419 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: a day job. You see what I'm saying, It's like, 420 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: if these stories are not reduced to writing, then then 421 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: they're lost to eternity. And that doesn't mean they didn't happen. 422 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: You know Ed Sable of NFL films. When he retired, 423 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: he went on the speaking circuit. And I don't know 424 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 3: if you're familiar with NFL films, but they tell these 425 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: amazing stories. You know, the wind blew through the blustery 426 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: and he tells he gives this line to businessmen. He says, 427 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: tell me a fact and I'll learn it. Tell me 428 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: the truth and I'll believe it. But tell me a 429 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: story and it will live in our hearts. What I 430 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: love here is you're telling a story that these men. 431 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they're scared, right, they're scared, and they're young, 432 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 3: and they never expect to be the subject of lore. 433 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: And had you not written it, they wouldn't. And I 434 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: could read these stories forever. And it's also I find 435 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: it very inspiring, Nathan, because these were just common guys, right, 436 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: They graduated high school, they played football, they had a girlfriend, 437 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 3: they shaved their head and sent them off to war, 438 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: and look what they did. And what I love is 439 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: now we've recorded that, right lest we forget our guest 440 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: is Nathan Canastero. The book is The Mighty Move, and 441 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 3: we'll talk more about this amazing. 442 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: Story had. 443 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 4: Michael Barry in the. 444 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: Nathan Canastero is our guest. The book is The Mighty Move. 445 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: I've done too much talking, he's done too little. Let's 446 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 3: talk about your grandfather, the tail gunner and an avenger, 447 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: torpedobomber and the USS calpins. And he never talked about 448 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: the war, which was common. I'm involved with a group 449 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: called Camp Hope, the PTSD Foundation of America, and people 450 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: come from all over the country. 451 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: It's free to them. 452 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: We raise the money who are suffering the wounds mental 453 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 3: wounds of war, and they stay there for six months. 454 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: It's a Christian based program and they get the healing 455 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: they need to learn to cope with PTSD. They're usually 456 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 3: extremely addicted. They've typically had multiple suicide attempts. 457 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: There in a bad way. 458 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 3: And one of the things I have come to learn 459 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 3: with these guys is that remembering is very important. We 460 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: talked about Marcus Atreil never forget. Telling stories like this 461 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: is how we honor these men and the men of 462 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: their generation. So I'm going to step back and let 463 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: you tell the story. 464 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, So grandpa was twenty two when he went aboard 465 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: the Calcons. He's from upstate New Arkle called Courtland by 466 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: fret five minutes from Sircuse. You know, after you know, 467 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: he did his bit a boyd career and he came 468 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 4: home and you know, put it all behind him and 469 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 4: maybe he just bottled it up. He's like, that was 470 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: the phase of my life. It's over and I'm going 471 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: to you know, went on to have five kids and 472 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 4: be a carpenter for you know, for forty years. But 473 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 4: you know, you talked to I've talked a lot about 474 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: both the veterans when I talked to him there in 475 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: their early to have been nineties and now their families 476 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 4: and you know, PTSD wasn't really recognized at the time 477 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: that you know, they were just like battle fatigue and 478 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 4: things like that. But they don't really understand it, you know, 479 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: like we did tell it. You know, one uh, not 480 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: a very nice lady here in town whose dad actually 481 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 4: flew some of the airplanes that my grandfather was the 482 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 4: tailgunner on, and he said, you know, he always had 483 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: a drink in his hand, and she said, we didn't 484 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: think much of it at the time, but you know, 485 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: maybe maybe that was you know, now now that we're 486 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, here we are in twenty twenty four, you know, 487 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: we know a lot about PTSD. Maybe that was an 488 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: indication that you know, there was some some scarring there 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 4: and that you know, he was self dedicating. He went 490 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: alcohol a sort of number. So I could certainly understand, 491 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 4: certainly understand what they needed. So but all these guys, 492 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 4: you know, it's sort of you say, I mean, they're 493 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 4: everyday Americans. The ship was mostly staffed by reservists, you know, 494 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 4: about fifteen hundred people. You know, with the basketball of 495 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 4: these guys, they weren't the Navy's elites. They were these 496 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 4: were folks that were going to go get out of 497 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: the Navy. They're going to do their bit, they're going 498 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 4: to go home. You know, they're the baby boomers, and 499 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: we know today and so consequently, you know that that 500 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 4: brought with it. You know, they had this huge sort 501 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 4: of range of you know, the ship's fighter pilots. You know, 502 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: there were there were bankers, there was a district attorney. 503 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: There was a more kissian, a soap salesman, uh, you know, 504 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 4: just a crazy but guys who worked for the power company. 505 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 4: You know, and then you get down into the you know, 506 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: the enlisted guys who made the ship go and you know, 507 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: you bet everybody and kept kept things working. And you know, 508 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 4: these were farm boys and big city kids from across 509 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 4: the country and a lot of them have just never 510 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: been outside of their home, you know, their home region. 511 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 4: You know, in the nineteen forties, how many people went 512 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 4: more and then you know, twenty miles from where they 513 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 4: grew up. Not many. So this was kind of like 514 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: the first real mixing for these people. You know that 515 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 4: some guy there's some guy from New England would meet 516 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 4: somebody from down south for the first time. 517 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: It was exotic. You know, you hear this again. 518 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: You're reminding me of things that I haven't thought about 519 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: in a while. But when a kid from Iowa meets 520 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: a kid from California and they're off to fight the 521 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 3: Germans and the Japanese and they're not thinking about bullets 522 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 3: flying there going you're from way out there where they 523 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: make those movies. 524 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just they're just kids. I've got a 525 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: seventeen and eighteen year old. 526 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: They're just kids, right right, And anyone about twenty one 527 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: or twenty two, like the pilots. They were old men. 528 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 4: But you know what they all had in common. I 529 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 4: talked to I read a memoir written by a marine 530 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: and a guy by the name of George Terrell. He's 531 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: from New England, you know, and he went to boot 532 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 4: camp of Paris Island, and you know, he's meeting all 533 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: people from all these different parts of America for the 534 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: first time. He said, you know, I thought they were weird. 535 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: They thought I was weird. He said, you know what 536 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 4: we all had in common, He said, he knew we 537 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 4: were going. 538 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: To win, all of us. 539 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: He said, there's no doubt about it. And another guy 540 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 4: a pilot award. He said, you know, every generation has 541 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 4: its great tasks, and we just assumed that this was 542 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: ours and we're going to get on with it and 543 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 4: get and get it done. So that's they had the 544 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: sense of purpose after Pearl Harbor. That kind of motivated 545 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: them to, you know, put these divisions aside and push forward. 546 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 3: It's incredible, you know, whether you call them the Greatest 547 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: generation or whatever else. I think one of the things 548 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: that you focused on here, you know, you talk about 549 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: the soap salesman and things like this, is when we 550 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: study history, and obviously you're a student of military history, 551 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: and as I am, and in all history. But we 552 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: studied the Genghis Khans and the Kubla Khans, and we 553 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 3: study these, you know, these great men and the great 554 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: things they did. It's important to understand these guys were 555 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: just average, everyday guys, just the way my kids are 556 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: and and and kids are today. And they went off 557 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: and changed the world and saved the world. And these 558 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: are I never tire of these stories. I find them beautiful. 559 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: And one of my grandfather was that generation of and 560 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: it's just it's glorious, it really is, and it's wonderful, 561 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: and somehow I find it inspirational for my own life, Like, 562 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: you know, maybe maybe I can do more, Maybe I 563 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: should do more. 564 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: You can be common, It's okay. 565 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's all about what your God given talents 566 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: and also opportunity, and these guys were given a tremendous opportunity. 567 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: There was one man in particular, I'll mention his name 568 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 4: is Clement Craig, who was the ship's greatest fighter pilot. 569 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: He was he did advertising work and he was got 570 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: out of college essentially put His first job was doing 571 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: copywriting for advertising in the local newspaper, and you know, 572 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: he's not making any money. He comes from nothing, and 573 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: he's just he got when he realized how much money 574 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 4: his boss made, which wasn't very much, he's like, well, 575 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 4: I can't do this. So he ended up joining the Navy. 576 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: And he was a little older than a lot of 577 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 4: the other kids aboard. He was like twenty five or 578 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: twenty six, you know, still pretty young by our comparison, 579 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: but by the time he was the old man. And 580 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 4: he went on to be the ship's greatest fighter pilot, 581 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: just a tremendous, tremendous pilot, and not only did he 582 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 4: serve a World War Two, he went on and served 583 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 4: in Korea. You know, he did two Navy Crosses in 584 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: World War Two and then through thirty more missions in Korea, 585 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: ended the war with twenty two Air medals and the 586 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: two Navy Crosses Distinguished Flying Crosses. He just really a 587 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: tremendous guy. But there was nothing about him that said 588 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: Navy elites. You know, he didn't go to the Naval Academy. 589 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 4: His dad wasn't an admiral. You know, he just he 590 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: came out and did it. And his greatest engagement of 591 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: the war, it was him in seven other US Helcats, 592 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: which is the main fighter pilot the fighter aircraft at 593 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: the time, and they took on eighteen Japanese fighters and 594 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: came out on top, shot down all but one, and 595 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 4: Clem shot got five and which is pretty remarkable given 596 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 4: he's only got thirty seconds worth of firing, you know, 597 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: for his guns, and so they run on ammunition. So 598 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: he should step five aircraft in thirty seconds of firing. 599 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: That's you know, six seconds. The man was a tremendous shot, 600 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: so you know, he was. I had had a chance 601 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: to trade notes with his son, who's going to you know, 602 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: was trying to tell his dad story and I was like, okay, 603 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 4: let me help, will lunch you help? You provide me 604 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: his journals and diaries and uh and then he's you know, 605 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: prominently featured in the book. So but so many folks, 606 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: that's as a as a historian, I'm very lucky that, 607 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 4: you know, you go to a family member of some 608 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: of these vets and say, hey, I'm trying to learn 609 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 4: more about what your relative did. Can you help me? 610 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: And I only had one person who wasn't interested. Almost 611 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: everybody was like, yes, let me, you know, let's let's 612 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: tell that story. Let's get it out there. And folks 613 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: were so helpful in providing you know, letters and diaries 614 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 4: and journals and photos and you know stories that they're 615 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: data told the which you know, so really, you know 616 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: the book it's it's it's about the ship, but it's 617 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: told through the voices of the guys who were there 618 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 4: a lot. I think that's what. 619 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 3: Sorry, it's it's described as The Mighty Moo as a 620 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: biography of a World War Two aircraft carrier has told 621 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: through the voices of its fifty heroic crew, a band 622 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 3: of brothers at sea. I'm up against a break. Uh. 623 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: This is a beautiful, beautiful tribute to your grandfather. The 624 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: Mighty move by Nathan Canastero. 625 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: A book about a ship. 626 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: For more importantly, the men on the ship and that 627 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: great generation and the amazing things they did. There's a 628 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: festival that celebrates them annually because of the incredible things 629 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: of them. 630 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nathan, Thanks you. 631 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 4: Sorry, I really appreciate the effort. 632 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: Tore a little helps us. Good thank you, and good night.