1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: What up, guys, it's your girl Cheeky's and you already 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: know what time it is. It's time for this week's 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: episode of Cheeky's in Chill, and today we're going to 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: be talking about something I'm really passionate about, finding your 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: life's purpose. This is something I've talked about here and 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: there on the pod, but I really never dug into 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: it two d. So that's what we're going to do today, 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: and I'm bringing someone really dope on the show to 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: talk about it with me. His name is Dramos. If 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: you don't know him, he's a fellow podcast host here 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: on the mic Udura podcast Network. He's also a DJM producer. 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: He actually used to produce radio shows like The Breakfast Club. Okay, 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: so Hi, welcome to Cheeky's and Chill Dramas. Thank you 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: so much for being here. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I'm really excited to finally get to 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: meet you. And we've been a part of the fan 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: for a minute now, so it's good to finally get 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 2: to connect like this. 19 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: Yes, so thank you. I appreciate it. 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about finding your life's purpose, 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: which I know that's something that you talk about a 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: lot on your podcast. Yes, so I want my listeners 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: to get an idea of who you are. 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: So why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself. 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: Let's start there. 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: Sure, I think, like I don't know, I'm a creator. 27 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: I guess like anybody else. At the end of the day, 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: my background kind has always been in music, and that 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: sort of led to media, from you know, radio in 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: New York to working with the Breakfast Club and now 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: hosting my my podcast Life as a Gringo. And I've 32 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: just kind of been on this journey of using my 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: I don't know creations as a means of storytelling and 34 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: hopefully adding some value of people's lives and saying yes 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: to whatever random opportunities kind of pop up, you know, 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: whether it's podcasting or speaking gigs or writing, whatever it is. 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm kind of just, you know, experiencing this thing called life, 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: and I do a lot of random things that don't 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: really make sense to anybody but me. 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 4: I think I love it. 41 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: You're bringing color to our world. 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: There we go. I love that. I'm gonna steal that, 43 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: by the way, Yes, go ahead. 44 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: So, okay, where are you from. 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: I am from the New York areas, so I claimed 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: both New York and New Jersey. I'm one of those 47 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: obnoxious people. I was born in New York, raised there 48 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: as a kid, and then moved to Jersey. But I've 49 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: been kind of back and forth throughout the course of 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: my life. So like this is this is home? I 51 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: claimed both states. 52 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: Nice? Love it? 53 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I like your style by the way, iking at 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: your Instagram and I was like, I love his style, 55 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and I kind of felt like it has to be 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: New York. 57 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the New York influence that's not the 58 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: Jersey influence. 59 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 4: For sure. Love it. 60 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: So if you had to choose one thing, just one 61 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: thing that you're passionate about, Like what would you say 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: that you're absolutely passionate about, like. 63 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: One specific like job or like thing to do, like 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: one thing. 65 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, or just like what do you feel like because 66 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into your life your purpose. But if 67 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: there's just one thing that you had to choose and say, hey, 68 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm passionate about this. This is what I feel I 69 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: was made for, Like this is is it music? 70 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: Is it something? Like what moves you? 71 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: I mean I think my first love was music, So 72 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: I always sort of revert back to that it's kind 73 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: of like, you know, the toxic relationship that I can't 74 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: seem to escape no matter how hard I try, Like 75 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: it always just kind of pulls me back in, Like 76 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: I've been running from it for a while and now 77 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: I've just given up, Like I just have to embrace 78 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: the fact that, like I'm always called to it, and 79 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: when it's not a part of my life in some way, 80 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: shape or form, I'm just not you know, myself completely. 81 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: So I guess if I had to, like say one thing, 82 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: music is always that constant tug and pull from me. 83 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, I feel you. I feel you in that. Okay, 84 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: So what so what. 85 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: Now that you talked about you know, we are part 86 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: of the familia that my podcast network. Hey, hey, so 87 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: what are the types of things that or the topics 88 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: that you talk about on life as a getting goal? 89 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I guess like the the initial launching 90 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: point of it was sort of for the people like 91 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: myself will always sort of struggle with not feeling Latin enough, 92 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: you know, and this otherness, if you will, and not 93 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: sort of having you know, a place to call home almost. 94 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: I guess community wise, you know, that they felt accepted 95 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: in a place that they can truly be authentic. So 96 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: for me, it was sort of about creating a space 97 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: that I always want to where I can explore my 98 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: Latin minus whatever that means, and have ties to my culture, 99 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: but not feel judged because I, you know, didn't check 100 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: some sni box that makes you a Latino, you know. 101 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: So that is sort of the basis of the podcast. 102 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: And then I think it's sort of evolved, you know, 103 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: as time has gone on, where it's really a podcast 104 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: about self discovery and the ultimate goal of just trying 105 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: to live life as authentically as humanly possible. So I 106 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: think that's sort of the thesis, I guess of the podcast. 107 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: I love it. 108 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: I love it because I totally get it. 109 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: I've always felt like I wasn't or I didn't feel 110 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: people made me feel like, Okay, you don't talk like 111 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: a Latina, Well what do you what do you mean? 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: Like I got that once. I'm like, what are you 113 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: talking about? Like how how am I so used to 114 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: you know a sound? I guess, And and then you know, 115 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: when I started singing, and it was just kind of 116 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: like it is Masia, Yeah, you're more from America, You're 117 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: not from MAXI I'm like dude, what like I love 118 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: on that music, I look like I don't understand you know, 119 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: so I totally get it. So you guys please check 120 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: out life is a good goal because I think a 121 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of you guys will definitely like if you love 122 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: chicken and show, you're gonna love life as a good 123 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: in go And I love how you explained it, So 124 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: thank you. 125 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: For that, because of course do we get it. 126 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 3: And by the way, what's your sign? 127 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: Aquarius? 128 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: Ah? 129 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 4: H is that good or bad? I can't tell about 130 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: your reaction? Good? Very okay? 131 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Good? 132 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: My brother, my little brother is an Aquarius. Very intelligent. 133 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: You guys are very artistic. Also, you guys feel a lot. 134 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: Like not as much as cancers. And I'm a cancer. 135 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: I'm very boy. 136 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: I've had I've had some experiences. 137 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm yes, wait, yes, okay, yes, okay, I'm so glad 138 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: you brought that up. Okay, So was she a June 139 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: cancer or a July cancer? 140 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: July cancer? 141 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: There you go, well, very different, very different. I'm a 142 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: June cancer, but I still got a little I used 143 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: to have a little crazy in me. 144 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: Because that's the thing. 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: If we're I'm telling you, I get it because let 146 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: me scratch my head because cancers we are very emotional. 147 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 3: We feel our feels a lot, so if. 148 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: We are not grounded the moon, it's a lot. So 149 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: I did it. But July cancer is different, very different. 150 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: Rusty, I know, I know, I know, I've learned. 151 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: So anyways, the reason why I brought you on the 152 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: podcast is because I want to talk about not about 153 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, the signs and all that stuff, but I 154 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: love to kind of like get to know people by 155 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: like you know their zodiac sign. But also you talk 156 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: about finding your life's purpose. What does that mean exactly 157 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: to you? 158 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: You know? I think the definition continues to evolve for 159 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: me a little bit as especially as I get older 160 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: and as I kind of my interests begin to broad 161 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: And I think for a while I thought it was 162 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: just sort of like one thing that you do and 163 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: that's your purpose, you know. But I think as time 164 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: has gone on, I think it's far more broad than that, 165 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: and I think you apply your life's purpose to everything 166 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: that you do. It's sort of the lens with which 167 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: you see the world is how I kind of see 168 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: it now. So I think for me, my life's purpose 169 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: is about, you know, creating spaces that didn't exist before. Like, 170 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: in the most broad sense, I think that's what I 171 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: was put here to do, to create spaces that didn't 172 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: exist or to disrupt existing ones that are no longer 173 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: serving us. And I think that's sort of the grand 174 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: scheme vent. And then from there I begin to kind 175 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: of zoom in and refine it and ever find it 176 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: over time, where then it's like, Okay, well, how do 177 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: I go about doing that? And who am I trying 178 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: to serve? You know, who do I want to be 179 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: in community with? I think through that, then it's like, okay, well, 180 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: obviously I want to be a part of my community 181 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: as a Latino, as a Puerto Rican, I want to 182 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: be contributing something to my people, you know, and be 183 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: giving back in that way. And then yeah, it's just 184 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: I think again, it just keeps refining and refining. But 185 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: I think the broader, larger scope of it all is 186 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm somebody who just wants to create spaces that don't 187 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: exist or disrupt ones that I feel we could be 188 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: better at in some sort of way. 189 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 3: That's that's dope. 190 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: That's tight because it took me a long time, a 191 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: long time to feel good with what I was doing 192 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: because I felt like it would pull me in a 193 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: dark place. And once I learned to separate Cheeky's from Jane, 194 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, Jane is like the person I was born, 195 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: and then Cheeky's is the person that you see on 196 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: social media and on stage and stuff like that. It 197 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: really helped me because I'm like, Okay, I want to 198 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: do this with love. I want to do this to 199 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: help other people. How can I do this? And once 200 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I got that, I'm like, this is my mission, this 201 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: is my purpose, this is what I want to do. 202 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: It helped. 203 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: It just things started flowing for me, but it took 204 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: a long time to get there. 205 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel everything you just said. I just think 206 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: it's like it's it's it's this journey. And I think 207 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: we're so obsessed with this finish line in general, as 208 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: like human beings, and I think life has very few 209 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: actual finish lines, you know, And I think that's sort 210 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: of the thing you have to accept and like you 211 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: you have to go through experience. Is like, you know, 212 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have found I think, my greater life's purpose 213 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for music and the journey that it 214 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: set me out on, essentially, right, because music led to 215 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: me finding so many different things. Music is more so 216 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: the vehicle than anything else, right, and oh my god. 217 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: Yes, right, sorry, no, no, you're good, You're good. No. 218 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: So I think that that's sort of like it's it's 219 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: the journey and refining and getting to know yourself and 220 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: then getting to know the new version of yourself as 221 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: you continue to evolve. I just think that there's so much, 222 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: like you know, to sort of continue to unpack in 223 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: life and the idea around purpose. And I know there 224 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: was there was somebody that had like a profound impact 225 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: that I interviewed on my podcast, doctor Esther Zelda Dung. 226 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 2: She she sort of just like made me realize that 227 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: the way with which I found success in what I'm 228 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: doing now or in music, whatever it is, I literally 229 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: can just apply that to any field in the entire world. 230 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Like I just have to change out like the characters 231 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: and the setting that I'm doing it in, you know. 232 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: But that's like my unique way of looking and my 233 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: unique vantage point of how I see things can be 234 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: applied to any other field that I find to be interesting, 235 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: you know. And I think it's you know, I think 236 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: you mentioned kind of the dark place to a degree 237 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: and like I can relate to you know that in 238 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: many ways of like the times where I just tried 239 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: to fit in with like what I'm supposed to be 240 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: doing air quotes, that's when like I was just depressed 241 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: as hell and it didn't matter if I was on 242 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: like giant platforms or I was doing cool things that 243 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: everybody was jealous of. In like my gut, the fact 244 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: that I wasn't, like, you know, creating something that I 245 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: could be proud of personally, like it felt like the 246 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: worst thing in the world to me, you know. So yeah, 247 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: it's again, it's just I just threw a lot. 248 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: At you, but it's a lot of like no. 249 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: No, I yeah, I took it all in. I took 250 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: it all in because I freaking I get it. I 251 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: absolutely understand. And this is what I tell people all 252 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: the time. We're evolving creatures. We are not meant to 253 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: stay the same. So life is literally it's in waves. 254 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: There's ups and there's downs, and it's not like, oh, 255 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: finding your life purpose. It's not a destination like you said. 256 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: It is a journey and you are going to change 257 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: and with that things change, and there are seasons in 258 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: our lives. 259 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 3: I talk about that a lot on the podcast. 260 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: You Know. I started off this fourth season of Cheeky's 261 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: and Chill with an episode talking about it's not that 262 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: I want to stop music. I just want to make 263 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: it look a little different because it wasn't making me 264 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent happy. I was happy doing it. I 265 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: was happy being on stage, but then it was I 266 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: was drinking a lot. I was numbing, like, I was 267 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: so tired, so I would just drink and I would 268 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: like it wasn't healthy for me. So I'm like, something 269 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: is wrong. I'm trying to run from something. And it 270 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: was because of the air quotes that what I should 271 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: be doing versus what I'm meant to do, What am 272 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: I meant to do? What makes my soul happy? What 273 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: makes me just want to live? Because there were times 274 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: there where I was like, oh I can't. I'm so 275 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: freaking tired. I just want to throw in the towel, 276 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: like you know, yeah, yeah, I just throw a lot 277 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: at you too. 278 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: No. 279 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: No, I'm like, I'm like, you know, I think I'm 280 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking to myself as I hear you almost because 281 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: I relate to that so much as well, like and 282 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: I think the the sort of weird irony or I 283 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: think the thing that a lot of people are not 284 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: able to see is sort of what happens when the 285 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: thing you love then becomes your main source of income 286 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: or your job, your career. And it's a blessing, but 287 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: it also then comes with a level of I don't know, 288 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: like difficulty or just like there's this cheapness to it 289 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: almost that happens because you now have to be delivering 290 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 2: because it's the thing you sort of rely on as 291 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: your job, as your career, right, or you have all 292 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: these other hands and these people in your ear you 293 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: should be doing this. Or you found succeests doing this, 294 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: give us the same exact thing over and over and 295 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 2: over again, right, and it's like this new now you 296 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: even whole new set of problems that you never had 297 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: before when it was just something you did in your bedroom. Right, 298 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, it's almost I don't want 299 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: to sound like you know, it's like, obviously these are 300 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: good problems to have. It's a blessing, but it's a 301 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: new set of challenges kind of to the point that 302 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: you made of like where ever, evolving new things are 303 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: being thrown at it as constantly we kind of have 304 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: to figure them out in these new stages of our life. 305 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: And I think, I don't know. That's the one thing 306 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: to me that was that was so surprising once it 307 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: became a thing, once this whole thing became a job, 308 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: where it was like, oh, this is like you know, 309 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: now almost feels worse because now it's like this is 310 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: all you ever wanted and you're not happy, Like, now 311 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: what the hell do I do? 312 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 3: Oh? 313 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know exactly what you're talking about. 314 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's what I feel like was all of last year. 315 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, if I am not passionate about this, something 316 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: is going on. If I'm not doing it just for fun. 317 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: And is that where because I know you talk about 318 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: something called or you call it purpose over paycheck. Is 319 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: this kind of the conversation? Is this what we were 320 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: where it goes? 321 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think if for me it's sort of I 322 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: try to live by that sort of mantra and that's 323 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: something I borrowed from dj Am. I heard him say 324 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: it one time, And I try to live by that 325 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: mantra as sort of like my guiding light almost when 326 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm making a decision in sort of things right, and 327 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: I have this internal struggle where maybe it's ego, whatever 328 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: it might be, where I want to check off the 329 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: societal boxes that I'm supposed to be checking off, right, 330 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Like I want to win by the same rules that 331 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: everybody else is playing by. I want to be able 332 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: to have, you know, the pats on the back for 333 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: living the white pike it fence life right, like a 334 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: part of me to that validation almost, you know. And 335 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: at times there's two parts to be sort of at 336 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: odds with each other, you know, the part of me 337 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: who wants to be pure in his art and his 338 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: messaging and in the way that he wants to touch 339 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 2: people's lives, and the other part of me that just 340 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: sort of wants the superficial validation from the outside world. 341 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: And there have been times where I've chased opportunities and 342 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: gone down that rabbit hole of things that like everybody's 343 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, giving you like the pound and you're the man, 344 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: and I hated it. 345 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: So I try to like adapt this. 346 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Mantra of just constantly reminding myself passion over paycheck, you know, 347 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: like I'm not gonna take a DJ gig that is 348 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: high like even that's like the lowest like you know thing. 349 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: But but even for me, like I love djaying, I 350 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: love playing music, but like if I'm playing a gig 351 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: that I hate for people that I don't like, it 352 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: could be a packed room if I'm not getting to 353 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: play things that I enjoy, or it's a crowd that 354 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: I'm not really that interested in that I'm not invested 355 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: in playing something for then, like I'm miserable, I might 356 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: as well be like an account in somewhere doing numbers 357 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: in an office. It makes no difference to me. I'm 358 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: just as miserable, you know. So I have to keep 359 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: reminding myself of like, there has to be something deeper 360 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: to everything you do in order for it to actually 361 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: make you happy. The money alone is not going to 362 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: satisfy you. 363 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: AP's freaking lutely. So it's passion over paycheck. Because I 364 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: had any written down here, perp okay, So it's passion 365 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: over paycheck. This year is that for me? I stopped 366 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things. I said, I don't want to 367 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: record another album. I don't want to go on tour. 368 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: I want to step back, not step away, step back 369 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: and fall in love with my music. And I want 370 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: to be on a stage. Like you just said, if 371 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: even if it's not sold out, even if it's just 372 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: five hundred people versus three thousand. But I am happy 373 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: doing it, right. I want to feel that again. And 374 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: not that it wasn't happy last year. It was just 375 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: something was happening. I think I was so busy, there 376 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: was so much going on that I didn't tend to 377 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: my I didn't do my inner work as much as 378 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I should have, and it was affecting me in every way. 379 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: And so I love that passion over paycheck because it's 380 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: something else that I say, Like when people say, oh, 381 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, this person sold their soul to the devil, 382 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, I'm going to go do this 383 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: ritual and I'm literally selling my soul to the devil. 384 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: To me, it's when you do things for money and. 385 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: You're not necessarily being authentic, and that's how you lose 386 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 1: credibility because you're just doing it for the paycheck and 387 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: not for the passion, for the purpose behind it, you know. 388 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: And that's and I yes, so I totally understand that. 389 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: That's kind of what I wanted. I wanted you to, 390 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: like to make sure I was understanding it correctly. So 391 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I think I did right. 392 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think you just summarized it amazingly. 393 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: How old are you traumas. 394 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm thirty six. 395 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: Okay, if you don't mind me asking, I'm sorry. 396 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh you're good. I'm an open book. 397 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: I'm an open book. You're good. 398 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: I was just wondering because I feel like you're very 399 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: like in tune and you know, and that that's awesome. 400 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: Like there's not not that there aren't a lot of 401 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: men like that, but they're I mean, I haven't run 402 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: across a lot of them. 403 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 3: So I was just like, it's great. 404 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: I feel like we're on the same wavelength right now, 405 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: and I'm lucky because this confirmation for me. So I'm like, 406 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: I've been talking about it the whole season. 407 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: No, it's I mean, it's good to get that confirmation 408 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: because sometimes you just feel like you're the crazy person 409 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: maybe you know what I mean. 410 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: Like that's that. So it is nice. 411 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: That's why I love having like these conversations and these 412 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: platforms where I get to meet people like yourself, because 413 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, I'm not maybe I'm like, you know, 414 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: a rarity, and I don't have many people around me 415 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: who are in that, but I know I'm not alone 416 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: and that's sometimes all you need. 417 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, and it feels good to know, you 418 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: know what. Yeah, like you said, I'm not crazy. And 419 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: even though maybe people are like, how can you let 420 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: this opportunity go? Or how can you stop the momentum 421 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: right now when everything's going good, like you just won 422 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: your third Grammy and this, it's like it's there's so 423 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: much more, Like, yes, I'm happy. I'm so grateful, don't 424 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: get me wrong, Like that's all what I'm saying. What 425 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying is I want it to feel good from 426 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: the inside out, you know. And I'm like, before it 427 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: starts getting crazy, let me stop myself and just recalibrate. 428 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I love Addition through subtraction basically is how 429 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: you like. It's you're adding more value to your life 430 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: by taking away more of the things that don't give 431 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: you that feeling of like joy, you know what I mean. 432 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: So it's like less things in there, but it's actually 433 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: adding more value. Yes, I want to cry, let it out, 434 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: Let it out. 435 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 436 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna cry, man, because because I was like, 437 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, someone freaksing it freaking gets it, which 438 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: is probably why I'm like, Thank goodness, you're on the 439 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: podcast we're talking about this. See you, guys, I'm not crazy, Okay, 440 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: this is I'm right where. 441 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 4: I'm meant to be exactly exactly. 442 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: Are you actively working towards like your purpose or like, 443 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: how is it that you like make it happen on 444 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: a daily basis? Like does are there times when you 445 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: feel you you get off and you have to kind 446 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: of like remind yourself, hey, come back here or give 447 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: me that process? 448 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think it's it's a daily struggle. 449 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: Every time I open Instagram, it's a struggle to like, 450 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, either go the easy route and like, you know, 451 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: be a salacious you know, mediahead that just wants clicks 452 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: and views, you know, and reports on nonsense or talks 453 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: about nonsense that doesn't add any value to people's lives. Like, yeah, 454 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: because I see that, I see other people finding a 455 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: great deal of success doing that, right, And the days 456 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 2: where I'm feeling a bit down about myself, like as 457 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: anybody does, I'm like, man, why am I making it 458 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 2: so difficult for myself? You know, in a world that 459 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 2: seems like they really don't care about anything deeper than 460 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: the superficial stuff, Why am I striving to like make 461 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: my life that much more difficult by trying to make 462 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: them care essentially right, and and I struggle with that 463 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 2: a lot, but you know, and then it's it's just 464 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: like the conversations with myself. You know that I literally, 465 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: like a crazy person, will talk to myself. You know, 466 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: I'll have those those conversations where I'm just like reminding myself, hey, 467 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: but you're you're here to make actual impact, right, like 468 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: when you're when it's all said and done, when you 469 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: hang it up, you know, years from now, I want 470 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 2: to be able to look back on what I've done 471 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 2: and know that there was a meaning behind every single thing, right, 472 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: and whoever finds it finds it, whoever appreciates it appreciates it. 473 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: But I know that I sort of did my part 474 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 2: in contributing something positive to this world, right Like I can. 475 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: I can sit back, I can lay my head at 476 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: night knowing that I didn't add more nonsense to the 477 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: world than there already is, you know. And my hope 478 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: is that while staying true to that path and staying 479 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: true to myself, that the right people will continue to 480 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: find me, and the right opportunities will continue to find me, 481 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: and I try to just like beat that into my 482 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: brain every single day and just you know, go at 483 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: my to do list every day on the things that 484 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing and always try to find a way to 485 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: have deeper purpose and meeting and all the things that 486 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm doing. 487 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean social media it can definitely take a toll. 488 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: I always say, is you know like you it's how do. 489 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 3: You say it? In English? 490 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: Like a double ed sword? 491 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 3: There you go? Thank you? 492 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, good things come out of it. 493 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, and I've noticed that when I post 494 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: something positive or I I'm not showing my booty to 495 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: be straight up on socials, it doesn't get as many likes, 496 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: and I don't get the algorithms all messed up. And 497 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: for a while I was like, am I losing my mojo? 498 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 3: Am I? 499 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 4: You know? 500 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: But I'm like, I gotta get I want the people 501 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: that are meant to get what I'm trying to say 502 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: and the positivity I'm trying to radiate. Those are the 503 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: people I want to like touch. Anyways, I'm like, so 504 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: I had to kind of remind myself because it does. 505 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, we live in a world that numbers and 506 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: clicks and likes and all this is become so important 507 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: that it doesn't like we have to remember that's that's 508 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: not what gives us value, guys. You know, it's not 509 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: really at the end of the day that important. It's 510 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: what you are, the footprint you are leaving in this world. 511 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: So I'm so glad you brought that up because it's 512 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: it's real. 513 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's tough, I mean, and it's it. 514 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: It's not gonna get any any easier, you know. I 515 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: think it's it's sort of it's why the quiet work, 516 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: you know, inner work that you do every day is 517 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: so important. You know. I try to start my day, 518 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: like you know, at very early, like six am, you know, 519 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: working on stuff and I'm writing or whatever. But that's 520 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: like my quiet time to myself to feel good about 521 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: like who I am before I let the rest of 522 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: the world and you know, I'm not doing any social 523 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: media stuff. I'm not doing anything during that time. It's 524 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: just like my time to be grounded, you know, to 525 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: to journal, to meditate, whatever I feel like doing, and 526 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: also work on like one thing that I'm super passionate about, 527 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: regardless of like what it may or may not yield 528 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: me as far as results. I guess that's what I 529 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: do on a daily basis to try to at least 530 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 2: start my day like on my own terms and to 531 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: remind myself of kind of like what's important, you know, 532 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 2: And I guess that's that's like the greatest gift. It's 533 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: like the fact that I have the ability to do 534 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: that start the day on my own terms, I know 535 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: I'm on the right path, and everything else is just 536 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: to add on. 537 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: That's freaking awesome. I think you're me and a boy version. 538 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: I think I swear. I'm like, dude, this is crazy. 539 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I swear. I'm like, whoa, yeah, because 540 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: that's how I like to start my day. I'm like, hey, 541 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I got a medice I got ground myself because if not, 542 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm a cancer. 543 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 3: You know, so you know I'll be crazy. 544 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, allegedly, allegedly. 545 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 3: Exactly allegedly. 546 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Why do you think that it is important for people 547 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: to find their life purpose? 548 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 3: To find? 549 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I like to call it to your mission 550 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: in life, Like, why do you think that's important? 551 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're sort of like you're you're 552 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 2: just kind of like without it, you're like fumbling and 553 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: bumbling throughout through life. At that you know, like I 554 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: almost picture it like a bowling pin. You're just kind 555 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: of being knocked around and like the day is taking 556 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 2: you where it wants to take you, essentially right, like 557 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: you're not in control, you're not present, And I don't 558 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 2: think we as human beings were meant to exist that way, 559 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: you know. I think there are so many people who 560 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: are not living fulfilled lives. They're sort of existing as 561 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 2: like the zombies that sort of live for the weekend, 562 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: almost because they never were taught that we don't teach 563 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: us a society. They never you know, discovered it, never 564 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: took the time to sort of discover their own internal purpose. 565 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, that's also why were there 566 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: are so many people who are just unhappy in life 567 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: in general, you know, because there's sort of the things 568 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: that we've been taught that are supposed to make you happy, right, 569 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: go to school, go to college, get the job, get 570 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: the house, get the you know, the kid, the husband, 571 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: the wife, whatever, and then boom, life is good. It's 572 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 2: like a happy ending like a movie, and it's just 573 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: not right. I think a lot of people are realizing 574 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: how hollow that was, and none of that stuff really 575 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: matters if you're not good inside first. You know, if 576 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: you're not full as a human being, you know, solo, 577 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: you're not really going to be able to experience the 578 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: real joy of everyday life and the fruits of your labor, 579 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: you know. And I think I'm incredibly passionate about this 580 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: because I think I saw a glaring example of what 581 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: happens when you don't find your life's purpose. And it 582 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 2: was my father, or is my father, I should say, 583 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: And I love my dad death. He's an incredible person. 584 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: He's a brilliant human being that I think was capable 585 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: of doing so many different things. But life kind of 586 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: came out him quick. You know. He got married young, 587 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: had a kid young, and sort of never really had 588 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: direction from a mentor to help him sort of achieve 589 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: all he could. And he sort of took the easy 590 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: route of you know, the safe job and hated the job. 591 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: Was you know, miserable on the hour commute to work, 592 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: miserable for the eight hours he was at the office, 593 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: and miserable on the hour commute back home, and did 594 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: that Monday through Friday for you know, decades and decades 595 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: the majority of my life, right, And I saw kind 596 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: of the shell of this person, and as I got older, 597 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: it was like, man, I could see almost inklings of 598 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: who this man could have and should have been by 599 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: the way he speaks about certain things. And I think 600 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: that that had a profound effect on me of like 601 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: not wanting to replicate that and sort of wanting that curse, 602 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 2: if you will, to sort of die with his generation. Almost. 603 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's we get caught in the rat race of 604 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: life where it's like it just becomes a routine and 605 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing it because that's what I'm supposed to do. 606 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: So I totally get that. 607 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: And just to clarify, when I said that you are 608 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: the boy version, I don't mean like boy as in life, 609 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: like man, I should say, Okay, I don't want to 610 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: like in any way. 611 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: Teez, I'm from New York. You're not gonna fend me 612 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: very easily. Not gonna find me that easily. We're good. 613 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 4: I've heard worse on the on the subway earlier this week. 614 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 2: We're good. 615 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god. Okay. 616 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: I wanted to clarify that, but and I also want 617 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: to clarify to the listeners because I think we also 618 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: live in a world where everyone wants to be famous, 619 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I've talked about that on the pod, 620 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: the responsibility behind that, and I'm not talking about finding 621 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: my life purpose of being famous and rich and famous. 622 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: This is deeper, guys. This is doing the inner work. 623 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: This is also looking outside of yourself and saying, how 624 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: can I help the world, How can I, you know, 625 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: be of service? You know, that is finding your life 626 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: purpose and not thinking of just the money, the coins 627 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: and how rich I'm going to am I going to 628 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: get And eventually when you're doing things from the heart, 629 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff comes like just like magic, you know, 630 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: because you're doing things with purpose. 631 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: The fame thing is a whole nother like monster of 632 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: a conversation that like social media has only ten xt 633 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: you know. But it's kind of like what we were 634 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: saying where we shared that idea of like music being 635 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: our vehicle almost right, Like the fame is a byproduct 636 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: of like your purpose and your work, and it's a 637 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: means to impact maybe on a deeper level. But it 638 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: should never be the primary focus, you know what I mean, 639 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: Like the followers should never be the primary focus. They're 640 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: just a means of being able to have you elevate 641 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 2: you know what it is that you do, what you 642 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: feel like you're meant to do, you know, And I 643 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: think that's where so many people are mixed up in 644 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: all this stuff, like you know, the famous fleeting you're 645 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: you're hot today, You're gone tomorrow, right, Like. It's a 646 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: very fickle world, you know, and if that's all you're 647 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: striving for, you're going to be left to feel very 648 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: sort of empty, you know, the second the algorithm is 649 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: not in favor of you know, your booty picks or whatever, 650 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: right like, you know, so it's like exact, yeah, it 651 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: always comes back to the booty picks. But like, yeah, 652 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: I think that that's sort of like a great reminder 653 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 2: to people because it's like the fame without anything deeper 654 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: is just a hollow thing that I think eats people alive. 655 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: And we've seen so many, you know, sad examples of 656 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: that throughout the course of the entertainment industry, you know. 657 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: So I think it's a great you know, point to 658 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: put on there for sure. 659 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: And this is why I have you dramas you You 660 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: explained it better than I could have, So thank you. 661 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: That's a team effort bound this back and forth. 662 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: Yes, go, I love it. I love the energy. 663 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: Yea. So it's definitely substance over superficialness. Superficialness even a word, 664 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: but you'll get it substance guys, and tell us a 665 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: little bit more about life as a get goal. 666 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think for me, I initially got 667 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: started in radio, like DJing led to radio, and then 668 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: from there it was kind of like, all right, you know, 669 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: radio is kind of like the goal I'm I started 670 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: seeing that spark where it was like I'm sitting in 671 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: a room where I don't have much experience when I'm 672 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: kind of like holding my own and opportunities keep sort 673 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: of like finding their way to me. So I'm like, 674 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: all right, there's probably something here. 675 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 676 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: And then you know, so I kind of began to 677 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: get some accolades from people as like a personality and 678 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 2: more so starting out like as a sidekick and a 679 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: producer and things like that. But you know, again, it 680 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: was sort of like this struggle of finding my who 681 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: I was and how I wanted to what message I 682 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: want to portray to the world, right, Because it's again 683 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: for me, it's not just about having the platform, but 684 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: it's like what am I going to do with it? 685 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 2: And what platform is it? Right? Because every platform is 686 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: not the right platform for you, and you know, so 687 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: I think I just sort of like I was in 688 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: the top forty world originally and it was just kind 689 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: of like all very superficial and it felt very empty 690 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: and like cool, but not like much to it. And 691 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: then I got the opportunity to work as a producer 692 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: on The Breakfast Club, and I think there is sort 693 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: of where like the pieces started to begin to begin 694 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: to fit together, and I feel like I started to 695 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: make sense of where I wanted to be and who 696 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to be, and sort of seeing like, you know, 697 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: this show that is incredibly successful, incredibly entertaining, funny, but 698 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: also has an incredible amount of depth to it and 699 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: is truly making an impact culturally in the black community 700 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: every single day, and sort of just seeing how they 701 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: moved so unapologetically, like this is an unapologetically black show 702 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: and other people can listen and you can tune in, 703 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: and you know, we invite that, but like this is 704 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: who we are. Take it or leave it. And I 705 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: was like, oh damn, Like you can make a career 706 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: of and find success while also being so true to yourself. 707 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 2: And that started to begin to I guess plant the seeds. 708 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: And then at that time, Hurricane Maria happened, and I 709 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: was watching like news coverage, you know, in the studio 710 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: overnight at the radio station, and I was watching on TV, 711 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: and like something just came over me, Like I was 712 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: just like crying by myself, just like in the studio, 713 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: overly emotional about what I was seeing, the destruction that 714 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: happened on the island. And it was like this just 715 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: strange thing that happened to me, This this feeling of 716 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: connection that I think was always there, but I don't. 717 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't, I never really recognize it on such a 718 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: deep level. And it was like I need to be 719 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: doing something for my people in some sort of way, 720 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: right Like if if my gift or the opportunities that 721 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: I'm getting right now are based upon my ability to 722 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, string thoughts and ideas together and speak into 723 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: a microphone, like, then I need to put that into 724 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: use for my people, for my community. And I think 725 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: that sort of divine timing of having to happen to 726 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: work at the breakfst Lub during that time and then 727 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: Hurricane Maria sort of led me to start thinking. And 728 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: then eventually, you know that the concept of LIFECATINGO was born. 729 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: That's cool. 730 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: So so yeah, definitely this is a way of you 731 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: fulfilling your purpose and helping your people. I think you're 732 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: you're very good at explaining things. You're you elaborate very 733 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: nicely and thoroughly. So absolutely, I'm glad we have life 734 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: as a good and goal. 735 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 736 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think it's it's. 737 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Great and and that's why same, I'm like, I love 738 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: podcasting is like therapy for me. It just even if 739 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm having a bad day, I'm just like I do 740 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: this and I forget about everything else and it's just like, hey, 741 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: we're doing something good for the world. 742 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, I think it's again, it's like it's 743 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: that confirmation that you know, we kind of even started 744 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 2: talking about, Like as we're talking to each other, we're 745 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: getting that confirmation of like the way our mind works 746 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: is not bad or weird or terrible. It's like it's 747 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 2: it's it makes sense right, Like we're not alone in that. Yeah, 748 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: And I think and it's been my experience in some 749 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: of the feedback I've got, and it's like as I'm 750 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: honest and as I'm like talking out what I'm thinking, 751 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: what I'm feeling on the podcast, other people are then 752 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: having those same conversations with themselves and like, are you know, 753 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: being impacted by it in a positive way, and like 754 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: that's the most beautiful thing you could you know, sort 755 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: of ever ask for? 756 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I agree absolutely. 757 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: And if you could give anyone here that's listening some 758 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: advice if they're feeling lost and they don't know why 759 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: they were put in this world and they're just lost, 760 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: what kind of advice? 761 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 3: What can you tell them? 762 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 2: I think you don't have to have much figured out. 763 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 2: I think stop trying to think you have to have 764 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 2: like the beginning, middle, and end of the story written 765 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: before you get going. I think you have to really 766 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 2: in like the most simplest terms. I think. I think 767 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 2: it was Robert Green. I saw a podcast with him 768 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 2: and he was basically just like, if you're feeling lost 769 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: in life, and I did this like a year ago 770 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 2: because I feel like I've lost myself a bit, and 771 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: he basically was like, just think back to when you 772 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: were a kid, Like what were you naturally drawn to? 773 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: What were you doing like when nothing else mattered, when 774 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 2: you know you had no worry about paying bills or 775 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: like what a job even was like, what were you 776 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: just naturally drawn to? And once you can answer that, 777 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: explore that like as an adult, explore that interest that 778 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: you had. And once you begin the process of exploration, 779 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: then things begin to find you. You know, Like I 780 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: look at it as like sometimes you just have to 781 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: get in the car and start driving, right, and eventually 782 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 2: you're going to get to where you're supposed to be. 783 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to have the destination you know, 784 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: mapped out. You know you'll eventually get there just by 785 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: the fact that you left your house and went and 786 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: got on the road somewhere, you know. And I think 787 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: that is where a lot of people get tripped up. 788 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 2: I think you sort of have to say, all right, 789 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: I have an interest in painting. Let me go explore that, right, 790 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: And who knows where that's going to lead. I don't 791 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 2: think you have to figure that out, but it'll probably 792 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: begin to lead you to like minded people. 793 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: It'll probably give you a place that you. 794 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: Can sort of call home, like I guess a third home, right, 795 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: like outside of your job and your actual house, and 796 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 2: all of those things begin to sort of present new 797 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 2: experiences and new opportunities or even just like new positive 798 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: feelings within you, right, and and then you just keep 799 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: building and building upon that as life opens up. But 800 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: it's just like, take that first simple thing that is 801 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: like doesn't seem to make sense, but you're just naturally 802 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 2: drawn to it, and just go explore and and everything 803 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: else will kind of work out. 804 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: I freaking love that. That is great advice. It's just 805 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: taking that leap of faith. I love the metaphor of 806 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: the car just getting getting as long as you get 807 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: in the car and you're just like, all right, I 808 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: don't know, Jesus, take the wheel right, you. 809 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: Know, absolutely absolutely, that's literally what it is. 810 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, uh, Dramo's honestly, I've really enjoyed this conversation. It 811 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: gave me confirmation. It gave me peace in my heart. 812 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: And my mind. 813 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: I know that what I'm doing right now, just by 814 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: this conversation made me feel like this is exactly where 815 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be. 816 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 3: So thank you so much. 817 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: And to the listeners check out Life as a Gringo 818 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: and is there, please share your socials with us. 819 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 3: I already follow you. You better follow me to I 820 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: did okay, good, okay, cool? 821 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: I know I was looking I was like, wow, I 822 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 1: was like, this is this is cool? So absolutely someone 823 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: you guys want to follows, so share, share your your 824 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: socials please. 825 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 826 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: Well, first off, thank you so much for having me, 827 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 2: and thank you for the conversation. I feel I feel 828 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: energized by it, so it's good. Yeah, I really do 829 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 2: appreciate these convos. But at DJ dramos on pretty much everything. 830 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 2: You can find me on there. I'm super active on Instagram, 831 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: so I'll always be posting on there, and yeah, Life 832 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: is a gding Goo and yeah, stay tuned for the evolution, right, yeah, 833 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: every Thursday and then every Tuesday as well, so we 834 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: do two episodes a week now. So yeah, so to 835 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: two episodes that keep you busy during the week. 836 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: Nice love that. 837 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Okay, well great, you definitely have a listener here and 838 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure people really liked your vibe, so you guys 839 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: listen to Life is a g Dingo. I said it again, 840 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you so much, thank you, and yeah, 841 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: maybe I can go on your on your podcast. 842 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: Please let you let me know where we're gonna we'll 843 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: definitely do. 844 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: It, all right, let's make it happen, all right, thank 845 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: you guys, thank you so much for listening. 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