1 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: Hello. My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosie Knight, 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: and welcome back to Xtra Vision of the podcast where 3 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and 4 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: pop culture. Coming to you from My Heart podcast, where 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: we're bringing you two episodes a week, every Tuesday and Thursday. 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: In today's episode, in the Airlock, we'll step it out 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: of that airlock and into the time capsule to talk 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: Scott Pilgrim takes Off, one of the best TV shows 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: of the year on Netflix right now. It's incredible. In 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: the omnibus, I'm gonna be talking about why this particular 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: adaptation works and how it differs from other adaptations we've 12 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: seen before. 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: But first let's pop open the time capsule to recap 14 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Scott Pilgrim takes Off. 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: So, if you have seen in Scott Pilgrim Versus the 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: World That's right, then you likely felt or read the 17 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: first episode or read the comics you were like, oh, 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: I know what's going on. This is use beautifully animated remake, 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: and it's stunningly animated by Science Saru, and I'm sure 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: that's exactly what the creative team wanted us to feel. 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: We meet Scott, his bandmates Stephen Stills and Kim Pine, 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: his friends Young Neil, his seventeen year old girlfriend Knives 23 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: Shower Boo Scott, boo but yeay Knives. We love Knives, 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: but boo Scott, she's seventeen. After he falls for a 25 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Netflix DVD delivery girl, Ramona Flowers, he ends up in 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: an awkward situation at the Battle of the Bands where 27 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: Knives is there and Ramona's there and it's just like 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: the movie and Ramona's first evil X shows up Matthew Patel, 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: and you think, oh, okay, yeah, we get it. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: Scott's gonna beat. 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: Him and it's gonna go on like we think. No, 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: Matthew Pettel beat Scott in the first fight at the 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: Battle of the Bands, and Scott is seemingly killed and 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: turned into a pile of coins, which I legit screamed 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: when I saw it, like I was like, what the fuck. 36 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is absolutely not 37 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: what I thought it was. And onto episode. 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Two, Episode two, you'd think it certainly. Matthew Battel thinks 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: that his defeating Scott would get him entree into the 40 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: heart of one Romona Flowers, but no, Roona's rejects him 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: and blames herself for Scott's death. But don't do that, Ramona, also, 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't waste your time thinking about this guy. 43 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: But whatever. Gideon getting Graves, mister billionaire tech billionaire, guy 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: at the center of everything, gives up his company. Ramona 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: decides to go on a search for Scott, who she 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: believes might be alive somewhere. This must be faked or 47 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: where could he be. Matt takes over getting in Graves's 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: company and takes on the role of the new billionaire 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: in the. 50 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: World, which is great. The idea that you can just 51 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: you you just win in a fight and then you're like, 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: I'm the leader, I'm the CEO of Yeah, I have 53 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: c we do that. Can we just go? Can we 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: just go and fight? 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Sign this contract? Remember in the contract you said you 56 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: would give over everything, Gideon, And he's like, okay, yes, 57 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: we said, and this is where we should mention one thing. Yeah, 58 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: they got every actor from the Scott Pilgrim movie to 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: reprise their role in Scott Pilgrim takes off everybody. 60 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable. 61 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: It costs. 62 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: Yes, Chris, you're talking about some of the biggest names 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: that have gone on to do these incredible things since. 64 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: Then, King Wells has been Karen Coulkin, Award winning, award 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: winning Kieran Culkin. 66 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: Like, there are so many unbelievable people who kind of 67 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: careers almost started here. I mean when pre Lawson played 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: MV Adams in the original movie, she was like nineteen, 69 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: she was a baby. So yes, we are now living 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: in a no Scott world in a Scott Pilgrim TV show, 71 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: and this is so bloody cleverless because really, Brian Ley, O'Malley, Ben, 72 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: David Garvinsky, they've realized that the best thing you could 73 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: do in Scott Pilgrim is make Scott a side character 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: and we basically get to explore all the different interesting 75 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: people that are surround Scott who we've met in the comics, 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: we've met in the movies. So one of those people 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: is sweet young Neil, and Young Neil has been inspired 78 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: into action after Scott's death. He's worried that his life 79 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: is going to end without him doing anything, so he 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: decides that he's going to write a screenplay. He struggles 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: to write it, but in the middle of the night 82 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: he sees a mysterious person and suddenly the screenplay is there, 83 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: so he's like, did I write it? Did I not 84 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: write it? And he is very sucked into this, which 85 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: he calls Scott Pilgrim's precious little life. And while he 86 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: is writing or not writing that, Ramona and destigates Scott's 87 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: death and finds out via security footage from the battle 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: of the band's venue that he was pulled into a 89 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: portal before. 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: Matthew could strike. 91 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Love that, and we get one of my favorite series 92 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: moments here, which is Ramona and her evil ex. One 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: of her evil ex is Roxy, who she dated in 94 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: college and she said it was just a phase. In 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: the movie, they have a huge fight, beautifully animated by 96 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: Science Seru. But the best thing is they make up 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: because Romona actually takes responsibility for the fact that she 98 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: treated Roxy super callously and kind of just left. And 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: the show starts to reveal its true colors here, which 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: is this is a show about Ramona. Romona gets to 101 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: be the hero. Ramona gets to exist outside of just 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: being a trophy for Scott. And Ramona also gets to 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: be held accountable and help the people in her life 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: that she might have let down get some closure, and 105 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: we get to see that really huge moment and reunion, 106 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: and then we see Gideon Gideon Graves, who's real name 107 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: really Gordon. 108 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: Goose, Gordon Goose, finish him, Gordon Goose, and he seeks 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: refuge in none other than Scott Pilgrim's enemy, Julie Powers played. 110 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: By Aubrey Plaza, who works in the coffee shop and 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: she works everywhere. 112 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: Works and then put works in air quotes. 113 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: She done, she works, she works, she works. Yeah, she 114 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: just turns up everywhere. But guess what now, Gordon Goose 115 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: and Julie Powers are a little team and that leads 116 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: us into the next episode. 117 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: So Ramona is now on a mission to find out 118 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: about this portal. So she decides next to confront her 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: one of her evil exes, one of the League of 120 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Evil Exes, the famously brooding actor and skateboarder Lucas Lee, 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: to see if he's involved in this, played by none 122 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: other than Captain America Chris Evans. 123 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: And by the way the way they animate, there is 124 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: a skating sequel in this episode. There is probably one 125 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: of my favorite scenes from. 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: It looks like SX tricky, Like it's really great. 127 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so stylized and so beautiful. And of course 128 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: Lucas is an actor, so why is he in town. Well, 129 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: he's been cast a skull, that's right in the movie. 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: So Lucas has been, as mentioned, has been cast in 131 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: the movie based on Neil's screenplay titled Scott Pilgrim's Precious 132 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Little Life, the very one that imagined Scott's life as 133 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: if he'd actually beaten Matthew Patel will as well. Scott's 134 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: sassy roommate is cast as himself, which is a wonderful move. 135 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: But of course there must be chaos, there must be action. 136 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Lucas is caught dating the actress playing knives. Enter the paparazzi, 137 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: who are just interested in everything that Lucas does. There 138 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: ensues an action sequence in which Lucas must fight them off. 139 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: After a long grueling battle, Lucas and Ramona patch things up. 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: She helps him sneak out the studio, and just as 141 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: an agent is dropping him, Lucas assures Ramona that he 142 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the portal. We also get 143 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: like a wonderful flashback in which we see how Lucas 144 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: and Ramona first started their relationship. It's actually like quite touching, 145 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: and it brings up something that I love about this series, 146 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: which is, you know, Scott's a dick and he's very careless, 147 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: and that's there in the comic, and that's there in 148 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: the movie, and that's there in this But also this 149 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: is a story about breakups, about breakups and being young, 150 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: about how do you about how when you're young you 151 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: feel everything like ten times because you're feeling it for 152 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: the first time, and you get breaken up with and 153 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: you feel like, this is the worst thing that ever happened, 154 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: and how could this be done to me? And you're 155 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: such a the person who broke up with me is 156 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: such a villain. And then all of a sudden, it's 157 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: your turn to break up with somebody and now you're 158 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: the villain. And this story encapsulates those feelings about what 159 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: it's like to all of a sudden be on the 160 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: other side of it where you have to be the 161 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: bad person that tells someone that you don't have the 162 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: feelings anymore, and what that is like, and how that's 163 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: just like a part of life. And I think it 164 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: does it really well. It's so winning. It's so great. 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Back to our story, enter evil ex todd Ingram envs 166 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: superpowered vegan boyfriend, of course, deriving his power from the 167 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: power of veganness. He decides to audition for Scott by 168 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: arriving through the portal. This leaves Ramona thinking very suspiciously 169 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: about what's going on, and we're onto the next episode. 170 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: So from here things get even more meta, where Scott's 171 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: ultimate evil x Envy from class at Demonhead played by 172 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Brie Larson, is cast as Ramona in the movie, as 173 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Wallace is cast as himself. He's on the set all 174 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: the time and he decides he's gonna seduce Todd and 175 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: that goes well for them. They have a little affair, 176 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: and then just when it seems like the movie might 177 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: get made, Matthew Patel returns and reveals he is the 178 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: new studio owner and he shuts down production on Scott 179 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: Pilgrim's Little Life, but young Ile's friends suggest to him, 180 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: why don't you turn it into a stage play where 181 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: you play Scott. How about that? Don't worry about Hollywood, 182 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: just do that, my friend, And then we're on to 183 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: the next episode. Only three left. Now things are getting crazy. 184 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Every episode has an incredible action set piece. That is, 185 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: it feels like it's like twenty percent of the episode, 186 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: and each of them you think you've seen them all, 187 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: and you think, if you understand Scott Pilber, that you're 188 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: going to know what the action se'es. And they're not 189 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: like that. Each one is like its own different flavor. 190 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Lucas Lee skateboarding scene. Every one of 191 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: them is different in its own way. We meet up 192 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: again now with Gordon, who is transitioning to being this 193 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: homeless guy who is crashing at somebody else's house and 194 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have a job and doesn't have a lot to do. 195 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: But Gordon has kind of struck up a interesting friendship 196 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: with none other than top Hollywood actor, although kind of 197 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: on the downside of his career, Lucas Lee. Meanwhile, Ramona 198 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: has decided to confront Julie. She reveals that Gordon, who 199 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: has been crashing at her place, has been too depressed 200 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: to do anything at all, literally. 201 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: Anything at all, any plans. 202 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: He's just sitting around being friends with Lucas Lee. 203 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: They head back. As head back to Julie's place, they 204 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: suddenly notice a robot that has been a lot of 205 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: different places is also there at Julie's What's this robot? 206 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: Doing here. The robot, once Ramona notices it, just leaves, 207 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: just gets up and leaves elsewhere. Stephen and Knives come 208 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: up with an idea for, as Rosie mentioned, the stage 209 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: play version of Scott Pilgrit's Precious Little Life. Ramona figures 210 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: out that the Katayangi Twins, the Evil Ex's part of 211 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: her Evil X league, created this robot to be vegan 212 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: and it created the portal. Then sex Ba ba bomb 213 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: drops a bombshell on Ramona. Neil didn't write the play. 214 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: How could he have written the play? He woke up 215 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: and then he had a tire screenplay. There's no way 216 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: that happened. Somebody's like Okham's Razor, Neil, you didn't go 217 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: to sleep and wake up with a full screen play 218 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: on your computer. Somebody else wrote it? Who did it? 219 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: Who could have done it? Finally, whom Scott does show 220 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: up on Romota's doorstep, validating her theory, but with a 221 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: twist that he claims he set the whole thing up himself. 222 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: And we're on the next episode. 223 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: Dune, And in the perfectly named penultimate episode to Scott 224 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: two Pilgrim, which is just so good, we learn that 225 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: Scott's future self is the one who pulled him through 226 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: the portal because in the future after you know, Scott 227 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: defeated Matthew and the Evil exes him and Ramona got 228 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: married yay, happy ending, No, because they ended up getting 229 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: a divorce. So future Scott wanted to pull young Scott 230 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: out and say, don't even get into it, man, Like, 231 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: don't even try to win her over, because you're all 232 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: end up heartbroken and you end up. 233 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: Like me Scott. 234 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: Young Scott doesn't buy it, but I think it's a 235 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: really interesting deep episode where we get to have this 236 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: kind of conversation about the fear of commitment and like 237 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: what if your life doesn't go the way you expect 238 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: it to, and you know, it's kind of the ultimate breakup, 239 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: the breakup after you've been married, Like it's a show 240 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: about breakups throughout your life, and this one has just 241 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: destroyed this guy and kind of turn him into like 242 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: an old man Logan type kind of Lono in a 243 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: dystopian universe, hanging out with the Captain Yagi twins and 244 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: their robot. And the sad truth is that he just 245 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: can't get through to Scott even though it's it's like 246 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: I get it but Scott is just like what you're 247 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: talking about, Like, I don't know what's going on. And 248 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: then we meet old man logan version of Ramona, who 249 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: are gonna call future old romonaat by the way, she 250 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: looks great, dude, truly, she's looking looking stunning, and she 251 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: helps Scott get back to the past, also revealing it 252 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: was her who wrote the screenplay because she love Scott 253 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: and she wants him to remember the version of their 254 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: life that they could have if they won. And they 255 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: came together and we're very happy, even if it was 256 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: just for a little while, and we're on to the phenal. 257 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: Scott and Ramona figure out that none of the Evil 258 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: Exes are behind any of this. During the play, things 259 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: go from extremely chaotic and crazy when a deranged even 260 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: older Scott, even older Scott teleports Scott, his friends, Ramona, 261 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: and the League of Evil Exes away, revealing that he's 262 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the mastermind behind this whole thing, because like, why not 263 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: throw in an extra Scott? We need an extra Scott 264 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: m hm. 265 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: At this point, we got so many Scotts, so many Ramonas. 266 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because what's something I didn't mention is that 267 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: when Scott and Ramona get back from the past to 268 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: the past, and they think everything's okay. They can't kiss, 269 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: that's right. It's like a force field that's stopping them 270 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: from kissing. And that is what even older Scott has created. 271 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: Why because he doesn't want Scott, young Scott, any version 272 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: of his previous selves to fall in love with Ramona. 273 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: He wants Roona out of his life so he doesn't 274 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: become this twisted and sad old man who can't get 275 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: over the fact that Ramona doesn't want to be with him. 276 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: Although does she not want to be with him? This 277 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: is another I think this is another asterisk in his career. Scott, 278 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: even older Scott, thinks that Ramona broke up with him, 279 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: when actually Ramona's like, wait, aren't we just like on 280 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: a break? Like didn't I just want to take. 281 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: Time anyway, Yeah, which is really funny because in the books, 282 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: which are really great they and I believe the first 283 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: the first volume is called Scott Bilgo's Prescious Little Life, 284 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: And something I really love about them is like they 285 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: do just they go on for so long that you 286 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: get to spend lots of time with these characters. And 287 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: there is just like a year where Scott and Ramona 288 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: just like aren't together and that kind of stuff happens, 289 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: And I love the idea that in this like Ramona 290 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: is like, like we can get back together, we can 291 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: do the work. But older Scott in the future has 292 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: just given up. He's like, no, we got divorced. 293 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: That's it. 294 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: There's nothing else to do. So it's really an interesting 295 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: kind of treatise on like commitment and how much you're 296 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: willing to make things work and how much you'll fight 297 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: for someone, and whether Scott even really wants to be 298 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: with Rona if she's fighting for herself rather than him 299 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: fighting the exes, So it's really interesting and they're in 300 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: like some strange limin or space. But luckily there are 301 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: three Ramonas as well as three Scotts. 302 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: So the evil exes try to fight, even older Scott 303 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: because he wants to kill everybody and also wants to 304 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: make sure that his past self never falls in love 305 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: with Ramona. Ramona decides she's done running from her life 306 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: and she's accepted the choices that she's made and she 307 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: embraces her older self, merging to become Supermona. She sends 308 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: older Scott back to the future and successfully kisses Scott Pilgrim. 309 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: They return to the play just in time to catch 310 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: Gordon because shouts out to Knives, who figures out that 311 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: this is where you're gonna find everybody all together, the 312 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Evil Exes, everybody. They're gonna be at ass play because 313 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: there's the live stage play that's happened. They're all gonna 314 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: be there. Meanwhile, Matthew, worn out by all the drama, 315 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: decides to return his properties and focus on being a 316 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: stage actor. Luke is, showing he's not just a pretty face, 317 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: takes up work as a barista, which he enjoys with, Yeah, 318 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: it's this is so good. 319 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: I love the way that in the you know, in 320 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: the in the movie. 321 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: In the books, when the Evil Exes are killed, they 322 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: become piles of coins that dead or whatever. I love 323 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: that they were like, here's what happens if they didn't die. 324 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: And there's you know, Lucas is like a barista and 325 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 2: everyone's going now watching him do his fancy like milk 326 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: shaw and he's looking all hunky and his ape friend. 327 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: It's so good. 328 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: Roxy helps Todd train to keep his vegan powers sharp 329 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: and then check that cut of Yngie Twins continue to 330 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: work on Robots, Wallace finds love in Paris after splurging 331 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: his film money on a vacation, and knives joined sex 332 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: but ba Bomb as keyboardist as it shouldn't have been, 333 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: with Envy occasionally joining when she wants to. Ramona continues 334 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: her work as a stunt double because she's a badass 335 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: and that's what she should be doing. In a mid 336 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: credits scene, just when you think it's all over, Gordon 337 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: and Julia back at it, seemingly plotting against Scott and 338 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Ramona as we head into a possible season two. 339 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: Love this show. I loved Scott Pilgrim already. I love 340 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: Scott Pilgrim the movie. That was a hugely formative movie 341 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: for me. I love that soundtrack. I still listen to 342 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: it like all the time. I have course played as 343 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Romona Flowers when I used to walk at the comic shop. 344 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: But I think this surpass is it. 345 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: It's really really great. 346 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: Massively because it's so good, it's so surprising, it's so funny. 347 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: But then again, it doesn't work unless you have the 348 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: other pieces as companion work. So this, to me is 349 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: the perfect kind of adaptation. I think, if you're doing 350 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: the third, if you're doing the second or third reimagining 351 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: of a character, actually reimagine it. And this was done 352 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 2: with Brian Ley O'Malley, who is the creator who's been 353 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: listening to these conversations for twenty years, you know, since 354 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: the books came out, and I think him and Ben 355 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: David Garbinsky did such a good job making this accessible, beautiful, 356 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: really well made animated series that should have been released 357 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: weekly like X Men ninety seven. If that, even if 358 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 2: you just dropped the first episode and then had a break, 359 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: the conversation that would have happened around it. 360 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: Would have been so fantastic. 361 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: And I mean, what an achievement to be able to 362 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: get all the cast back when that is just such 363 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: a massive, massive effort to get these huge Hollywood stars. Also, 364 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: another thing I love about it is that I love 365 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: the fact that they give Matthew Patel like this whole 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: character arc because he's the first person who gets killed. 367 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: He's a person of color, and in the movie it's 368 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: like he does have a great moment, a great musical sequence, 369 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: but he doesn't get much more than that, and I 370 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: love that they gave him this art care. But in 371 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: the end, he's like being a CEO is like really rough, 372 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: like I don't want a billion dollars, Like let me 373 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: just live my life as a working actor. I mean 374 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: it's to me. I just think it's almost a perfect adaptation. 375 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: It was totally once. 376 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: It's really really great. And again, if you are a 377 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Scott Pilgrim fan and you think I know this story, 378 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you don't know how they did it this time you don't. 379 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: And they did something super smart, which is make Scott 380 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Pilgrim really like a side character in his own story 381 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: until basically the end, like he exits episode one, and 382 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: then the entire middle of the series is about in 383 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: air quotes, these side characters, their stories, the things that 384 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: they're doing. There's some shocking romance in here, shouts to 385 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: Wallace and Lucas, Lee Todd. And it's great. It's really 386 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: really fun. It's got the energy of the comic and 387 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: of the original. The music continues to be fantastic. It's 388 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: just wonderful. The action is so good. It's up next. 389 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Rosie is going to take you even deeper into Scott 390 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: Pilgrim takes off and tell you why it's one of 391 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: the best adaptations ever yet. 392 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of the Omnibus where law, analysis 393 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: and understanding come together. Today, I'm going to take you 394 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: through why I think Scott Pilgrim takes off as one 395 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: of the best adaptations of all time. This is from 396 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: a piece that I wrote at IgM when the show debuted, 397 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: and I just absolutely was blown away by the way 398 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: that they chose to adapt this show. So adapting Brian 399 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 2: Ley O'Malley's beloved comic turned cult film for Netflix seems 400 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 2: like it would be an easy and relatively safe bet. 401 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: Scott Pilgrim's a fun, dynamic story that plays with the 402 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: tropes and trappings of manga and fighting games and has 403 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: an immense imbolt nostalgia and fan base, not because it's 404 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: been you know, nineteen years since the comic debuted, but 405 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: also because of the twenty ten movie and the cast 406 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: who have gone on to become some of the biggest 407 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: stars in the world. In case you haven't seen Eggar 408 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: Wright's charmingly stylized film or read the vibrant source material, 409 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: the story centers around the titular slacker, Scott Pilgrim played 410 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: by Michael Sira, who finds a girl of his dreams, 411 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 2: Romona Flowers played by Mary Elizabeth Winstead, and has to 412 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: fight has several Evil x's before he can date her. 413 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: Since twenty ten, the love for the film and comic 414 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: has only grown. The movie was one of those classic 415 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: movies where it didn't really make much much money at 416 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: the box office, but the whole cult hit once it 417 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: hit home video, and it's kind of wild that the 418 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: whole cast decided to come back for the Netflix anime version, 419 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 2: which was animated by the legendary Science Through Studios. But 420 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: what the streamer and creators O'Malley and Ben David Gribinski 421 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 2: managed to keep under wraps is that this isn't a 422 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: remake or a sequel, it's something else Entirely. During the 423 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: opening twenty five minutes of the twenty eight ish minute 424 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: first episode, it's easy to believe, as we spoke about 425 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: that you're watching a pretty much shot for shot and 426 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 2: beautifully animated remake of the film and the comics. We 427 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: see Scott and his band sex per Bomb. They go 428 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: to the Rocket, a local Toronto dive. Bar Ramona's first 429 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: Evil X, Matthew to Tell played by Satya, saw our 430 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 2: barber attacks but in a moment that, as I said, 431 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: literally Mami Yell, Scott loses the fight. It's an astonishing 432 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: twist that immediately reveals the show isn't what we think 433 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: it's going to be, and something that the title had 434 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: cleverly been hinting about all along. Scott Pilgrim is gone 435 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: and we're left to follow the fallout. It's a huge 436 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: swing that, after watching all eight episodes, absolutely pays off. 437 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: Scott's failure in subs quin disappearance allows the series to 438 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: spend time with its ridiculously stacked cast of characters. Highlight 439 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: include Scott's seventeen year old kind of girlfriend knives Chow 440 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 2: played by Ellen Wong, his call gay roommate Wallace Wells, 441 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: Kieran Culkin, and sexper Bomb's sarcastic drummer kim Pie Alison Pill, 442 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 2: along with all of Ramona's evil exes like the power 443 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: hungry Patel Vegan Clash, a demon head drummer bass player 444 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: todd ingram and the angsty lesbian hockey player Roxy Richtor. 445 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: Of course, there's Ramona Flowers herself, who gets to be 446 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: the hero of her own story here, rather than a 447 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: trophy to be secured through a series of badass fights. 448 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: That change speaks to another of the most powerful and 449 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: likely divisive choices that the show makes. Grabinsky and O'Malley 450 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: are constantly in conversation with viewers and readers who love 451 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: Scott Pilgrim in all of its forms. It almost feels 452 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: like an act of anti fan service that instead respects 453 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: the audience while challenging it to grow with the stories 454 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: and characters, rather than settling into familiarity. Of course, it's 455 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: a maturing of the story that makes sense O'Malley published 456 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: the first volume almost twenty years ago, and also makes 457 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: the series stand out from other adaptations. This is an 458 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: additive experience, one that weaves the characters in the world 459 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: that we know with extra context, clarity, and thought amid 460 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: the stunning animation and beautifully directed action that feels like 461 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: another game changing addition to the Netflix slate. There's a 462 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: focus on making amends and moving past the mistakes we've made. 463 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 2: Whereas the exes in the film will with dispatched post haste, 464 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: here they live on and Ramona realizes and often apologizes 465 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: for the impact she had on them. Knives gets to 466 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: exist out of Stockott's orbit, something that also happened in 467 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 2: the comics, but in an entirely new way. By realizing 468 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: she's a proficient musician, and with the help of Kim 469 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: joins Sex bebom herself. Other characters get expanded lives. Todd 470 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: falls in love, Lucas Lee finds his calling as a barista, 471 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: Julie reconnects with her old lover. As Scott for himself, 472 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: the show doesn't truly dispense with him, instead playing with 473 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: some delightfully fun comic book tropes to send him on 474 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 2: a journey to the future where he reconsiders and commits 475 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 2: to his relationship with Ramona. It brings a depth to 476 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: their romance that's always been a key part of the 477 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,239 Speaker 2: draw of O'Malley's slice of life story. That's something that 478 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 2: the truncated timeline of the film only touched on, but 479 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: Scott Pilgrim takes off embraces it. Ana Manigucci, who also 480 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: scored the cult Scott Pilgrim versus the world video game 481 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: craft relaxing beats that create an enjoyably chill soundscape for 482 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: a quiet moment between the battles. While Hollywood is dealing 483 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: with what some would call comic book movie fatigue, Scott 484 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: Pilgrim takes off as a breath of fresh air. It's 485 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 2: a reminder of how vibrant and exciting an adaptation can 486 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: be when the people who love and know the source 487 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 2: material are willing to take risks. Pretty much every other 488 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: major studio could learn vital lessons from what Grabrinsky and 489 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: O'Malley have done here. Let's just hope that they heed them, 490 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: and maybe then the future of comic book adaptations will 491 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: look bright again. And you can read that article. It 492 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 2: ign along with many of my other articles. And yes, 493 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: I do truly think this is one of the best 494 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: adaptations that we've ever had. But we've had a great 495 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: year for adaptations because we also got Shogun, we got 496 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: House of the Dragon, which I love. So yeah, it's 497 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: a good year for adaptations. Thank you for listening, and 498 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: now let's do Who's Who. 499 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: We like to end every episode with a series of 500 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: fast moving segments. This week It's Who's Who, in which 501 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: we will name our favorite multiverse slash multiple versions of 502 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: the same person stories. Rosie, what's your no? I'll start that, 503 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: Lena start with what Listen. Some people say, oh, multiverse, 504 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: the multiverses, all these multiverse stories. Look at all these 505 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: multiverse stories are very, very old, and that brings me 506 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: to my selection, which I think might be the OG. 507 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about eighteen forty three's banger Christmas Carol by 508 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: Charles Dickens. Oh shit, I think it might be the OG, folks. 509 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I think it might be the original multiple versions of 510 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: yourself branching timeline story in which my brain, your gude 511 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: Ebenezer Screwedge, is taken by various ghosts to see moments 512 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: from his life, and then he's taken into the future 513 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: to see what life could be like if he continues 514 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: on his path of being a rich, miserately dick. It's 515 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: a great one. It's a classic. 516 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: This is incredible. You blow in my mind because also, 517 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: I think in an incredibly meta take as well. It 518 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: is also probably one of the stories that has the 519 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: most adaptations, so each of them almost acts as its 520 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: own multiverse as well. I love that. 521 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: That is such a good call. 522 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: Ten out of ten. Also, mup at Christmas Carol. Hey, 523 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: I just need to say it's the best Christmas Carol, 524 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: but I love all Christmas Carols equally. That is a 525 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: very good story, and I absolutely love that pick. I 526 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: think you're right that probably is the OG. Okay, I'm 527 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: gonna go for Okay, it's more of like a scary one, 528 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go for coral because I love Coraline, 529 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: I love the little I loved. 530 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: The stop motion. 531 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: I think Lika did an incredible job adapting it. And 532 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: I like that that is a kind of multiverse where 533 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: you go to a different world to come only to 534 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: basically realize we are in the right place, you know. 535 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: I like that story, like your home, where you actually live, 536 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: is where you should be. So I think that is 537 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: a really good one. I also do think everything everywhere 538 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: all at once. Man is up there with best multiverses 539 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: of all time. I mean, I still remember the first 540 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: time I watched that movie. Okay, another one blast from 541 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: the past, but it is getting a re release currently, 542 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: which I cannot wait. Is a Run, Lola Run, which 543 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: we used to watch so much when I was a charasie. 544 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 545 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and that you kind of get these different 546 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: versions of what could happen. And I really that was 547 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: a that was a perennial blockbuster sleepover pick when I 548 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 2: was growing up. 549 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't know why. 550 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 3: I feel like I must have had housie friends. 551 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, we are blessed with many multiverses, not just 552 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: in the Marvel and DC universe, guys, there's so many 553 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: multiverses all over the place they're living. They're living it 554 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: up everywhere. 555 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 3: There's a different in it. What what are the multi 556 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: versus and me and Jason, I don't know. We're probably 557 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: doing something else, probably just like watching some basketball or something, 558 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: just like a slightly different version of this universe. We're 559 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: just wearing a different colored T shirt. You don't know 560 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: how different the multiverses are. They don't all have to 561 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: be crazy, you know. 562 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: Do you think you're evil in any multiverse? 563 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: Cash multiverse? 564 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: Definitely? Come on, I would like to imagine. I would 565 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: like to imagine I'm not. But if there's really a multiverse, 566 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: if we're talking about like every timeline living alongside each 567 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: other like string theory style, I'm sure there is an 568 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: evil Rosie in one of those. Like as much as 569 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 2: I don't like it, there's probably an evil Rosie and 570 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: Jason and we probably do a really annoying podcast about 571 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: like I don't know, supplements or something. 572 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: Well, this has been an evil Jason and evil Rosie. 573 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: And that's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. 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