1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, ra 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. I recognized that we all have different definitions 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: and live their very best life. It is time to 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co workers stop you from planning 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: or living your dreams. My guests, as a civil rights 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: activists that has always prevailed against the odds, rising from 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: g E D to PhD. He's a community organizer. Dr 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Jamal Harrison Bryan. He combines sound biblical teaching, business acumen, 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: and political insight to propel the Body of Christ to 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: action and graded levels of faith. He's the senior pastor 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: of New Birth Missionary Bapti Church. A graduate of More 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Health College and of Duke University, his leadership efforts have 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: always begin to strengthen the multigeneration of bond among members, 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: expanding in the outreach, cultivate families, and expanded churches cultural 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: significance please work with the Money Making Conversations Master Class 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: for the very first time and hopefully not the last. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: Dr Jamal Harrison Bryan, how are you doing, sir? Doing 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: wonderfully well, brother, good to hear your voice and to 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: see your face well great, the same thing there, you 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: know when I see your face board and you see 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: my that's for sure. On TV, i'd say, uh, you 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: know it was. There was a time when they when 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: they when they when your church reopened and members were 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: allowed back into the church. I I saw you on 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: every channel and that wasn't and that was a blessing 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know the journey that 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: started in talk about and some of the trials and 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: you have to say that you went through to overcome 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: and question your faith people. You have to deal with 35 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: the health. The black community was affected the worst or 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: people a brown skin tone. So talk about that two now. 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: And the reopening the church. Uh, it was COVID was 38 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the best thing I think that ever happened to the church, sir, 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: because it made us move outside of the four walls. 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Have you studied the life of Jesus of what he 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: did was outside of the church, But the contemporary model 42 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: of what churches do is inside uh, and so we 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: had to reexamine what does church mean? Is it four walls, 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: is it a steeple as a state, glass windows, is 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: it a hamm and organ or is its service to 46 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: the community? And so as a consequence, the church never closed. 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: The building did. And so since today, Rashan, you ought 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: to know that we fed over eight hundred thousand people 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: confronting food insecurity. UH, in the midst of the pandemic. 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: We were able to give disaster relief to people in Mississippi, 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Louisiana and to Texas in the midst of the pandemic. 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: Since two thousand twenty, UH, over three thousand people joined 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: our church online, never getting the right hand of fellowship. Wow. 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: What it's interesting to know is that culture changes every 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: four years, but Black church culture changes every twenty. So 56 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: the average church is fifteen years behind schedule. So a 57 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: lot of churches didn't make it. Why because they were 58 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: not technologically savvy. They didn't know how to do online 59 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: given right, and they didn't know how to have a 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: hybrid approach of being high tech and high touch. We 61 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: mastered all of those in the grace of God and 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: was able to excel and that's it's really good that 63 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: you're saying that, because as an African American community, were 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: always you know, we got we got the cell phone, 65 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: or do we understand the technology? You know, as a 66 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: person who has been in radio and TV and you know, 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: all the big giants or whether it's uh, Apple, Google, 68 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: they never look at the African American community for technical 69 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: forward thought, for academic excellence, or for employment. What role 70 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: is the church playing in that is for under your leadership. 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to expect you to speak for every church, 72 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: but I know your leadership, what role are you planning 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: to advance the narrative of African Americans with technology? So 74 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: we started the last summer doing something a little bit 75 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: cutting edge. We canceled vacation Bible School and started doing 76 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: code in class. Uh, so that our young people will 77 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: be able to have some competitive foot in a global 78 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: market and trade because you very well know most of 79 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: our inner city public schools don't offer such And I 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: think that part of the responsibility of the church is 81 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: to not just advanced consumer wism, but to make sure 82 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: that we are producers as well, which is really really important. Now, 83 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, when they said this courtion over to me, 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: and I want to ask you said when you arrived 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: at new Birth, you walked into a massive death if 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: something I didn't knowing it about. You know, because we 87 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: look at the church. You know, you know people you 88 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: have your who have you, people who joined the church, 89 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: they donate and then then you but you walk into 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: a debt situation. How did you manage to reduce the 91 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: debt so quickly? Because was it through corporate donations? With 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: it through the members of the church? And what plan 93 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: did you put in place so it won't happen again? 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: We have to understand I came a little after two 95 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: and a half years after Bishop wrong died UH, and 96 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: so they went through a deep membership in attendance and 97 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: participation and in leadership. UH. And so as a consequence, 98 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: I one let me say, we got no corporate donations, 99 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: is that our modeled stewardship UH and increased the volume 100 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: of trust that they are to have UH in the 101 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: church and made sure that church was not just a 102 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: Sunday morning experience but a Monday through Saturday Saturday interaction. 103 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: And so it's a consequence begin to do aggressive I 104 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: save things UH, investing UH and aggressive in UH A 105 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: debt reduction, almost doubling up with our mortgage trainment was 106 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: in order to get that done and then refinanced to 107 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: take it out of the hands of an evangelical bank 108 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: UH and do business with a black bank right here 109 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Citizens Trust. We'll be right back with more 110 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. What that 112 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: we learned over the last I would tell you I've 113 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: been an entrepreneur and publicly, I don't know if I 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: was always comfortable with letting people know I was a 115 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: black owner, right, says George Floyd. You know Google has 116 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: even made a request if you're black owners so they 117 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: can put that in their directory. So with that transition 118 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: and then they opening up New Black Wall Street, it's 119 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: really is you know, you're you're at the forefront of it. 120 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: You know you're you're you're talking to people with their 121 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: struggles they uplift. How do you look at the new 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Black World Street and how does the church play that role? 123 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: And beyond the church, the success stories that you're trying 124 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: to put out there, I think the deficit of the 125 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: Black Church in large measure is when the Black Church, 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: and I'm speaking in generality speaking speaks about economics, we 127 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: only do it in terms of asking people for their time, 128 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: asking for ten percent, but never show people how to 129 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: multiply the nightey and I think part and parcel of 130 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: my responsibility as pastor is to talk about how do 131 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: we manage our revenue. Dr King said before his demise 132 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: that African Americans spending power made us the fourteenth wealthiest 133 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: nation in the world at this point, where the eleventh 134 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: wealthiest nation in the world, but we're not doing anything 135 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: about it. In the Asian community here in America, Uh, 136 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: their dollars circulates twenty three times before it leaves their 137 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: hands in the Jewish community, seventeen times before it leaves 138 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: their hands in the Caucasian community, twelve times before it 139 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: leaves their hands. In the Black community, our check is 140 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: cash just thirty minutes before we hand it over to 141 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: somebody else. And so when we talk about economic development, 142 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: it's got to be not just a campaign but a 143 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: mind fright. And so to celebrate June tenth, I am 144 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: challenging the community to open up one thousand accounts as 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: Citizens Trust Bank. Eight six percent of people in our 146 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: community don't own a diamond stock and so on Sunday, 147 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm challenging our community and bringing in black brokerage firms 148 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: for African Americans to a leave an inheritance and to 149 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: know how to do investment. If we just have checking accounts, 150 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: the banks don't look at us. To your original question 151 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: about Black Wall Street, it was the brainchild of Mr 152 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Bill Allen and he told me about it, and I 153 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: told him there's no way it will succeed if the 154 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Black Church is not interloped in the idea. Right, So 155 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: I came and walked alongside them, made an agreement with 156 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: them that of the one hundred businesses that are in 157 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Blackwall Street, ten percent of them have got to be 158 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: business owners that come out of new birth to make 159 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: sure that we are really championing the call. My conviction, 160 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: brother McDonald's, if I have ten thousand members, why are 161 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: you struggling to sell your book? How come you don't 162 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: have any clients? Because they're right there in the church. 163 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: We've got to develop out on the ecosystem in order 164 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: to thrust us to that model. Well, you know, but 165 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: this first one of the main reasons why M fortunate 166 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: on w c OK to do money Making Conversation master Class. 167 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: It's about promoting dreamers, especially in the entrepreneurship and small 168 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: business of the lane. Now when I look at you, 169 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: your more horspit. HBCUs have been at the forefront of 170 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: academic excellence forever, but only recently because of massive donations 171 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: by individuals in the corporate world. Lead. Uh, how is that? 172 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: Does that make you feel good? Dr Bryant? Or it 173 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: makes you disappoint you that there's nothing there's ever been 174 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: wrong with HBCUs. We just hadn't been recognized and given 175 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: our due. I think, um that we in the HBC 176 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: all but have understood our value without mainline accepted. Right. 177 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: Hbc US graduate more Black doctor, more lawyers, more doctor degrees. Uh, 178 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: they are not predominantly white institutions with minimal support and 179 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: financial backing. Is all inspiring Now that we have it, 180 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the sky is the limited. People now walk on the more. Uh. 181 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: So I think that this is really just putting us 182 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: in a greater place where I help y'all out with 183 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: those status That here is the top of my mind. 184 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: Fifth percent of the Black school teachers come from hbc 185 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: US percent of the medical doctors and dentists come from 186 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: hbc USED, seven of the judges and lawyers comes from HBCUs. 187 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Of the black members of conference comes from HBCUs. Of 188 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: the STEM graduates come from hpc US. North Carolina A 189 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: and T graduates more Black engineers than any engineering program 190 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: in the country. Also, there are more generals in the 191 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: army outside of West Point who are black, from Calming, 192 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: from South Carolina State. Those are the stats that I 193 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: that need to be out there, that I that I 194 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: I need all of that seven me all. We'll see, 195 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: We'll see. That's what. That's what. That's why we do 196 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: this show, Dr Brian because it's about information. It's about 197 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: inform from a knowledge. Thank you, and that and that 198 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: that you know and the knowledge is you know is preaching. 199 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: Now I can do this show. I could do a 200 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: pre recorded show and and just go all by my business. 201 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: But I've turned this show into a show where people 202 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: can call in and then get somebody and your local 203 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: giant to have you come on my show. It's part 204 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: of the building of the brand, you know, to have 205 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: the new Black Wall Street. Those archreneurs need to know 206 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: they have a vocal home, right here where they can 207 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: come and share their dreams and expand their brands. So, 208 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: general relationship, what do you feel a black community that 209 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: needs to understand about money? You talked about the stock market, 210 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: because now I would tell anybody who's listening, when the 211 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: stock market is down, that's when you want to buy. 212 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: You want to buy when it's a bar. You don't 213 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: want to buy when it's a bull. And so if 214 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: what you're talking about bringing in that type of money, 215 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: but that's a different type of money. But you had 216 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: an incredible stat about how money doesn't stand in the 217 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: black community's hands. So what do we really need to 218 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: understand Because if you're gonna talk about money, you got 219 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: to talk about credit, and credit and money tends to 220 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: be a separate conversation in the black household. I often 221 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: uh use this example, uh that I know by mcdowald, 222 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: you can run across the fifty yard line with that 223 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: is Black people are the only people in the world 224 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: who have a housewarming party for an apartment, right, we 225 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: don't really talk about homeownership. My father put to my 226 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: sister and I on a plan when we got out 227 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: of college, which was the ten ten eighty, which I 228 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: still modeled to this day, which is saved temper cent 229 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: tive temper cent live off for eight percent uh. And 230 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: it has really helped us when you realize that the 231 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: average African American lives at a hundred and ten percent 232 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: of that income that we in debt trying to keep 233 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: up with the jumps is a credit card that is 234 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: through the roof. We can't have a whole different show 235 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: about the swamp known. There are student loans uh, and 236 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: so there's a whole lot of financial literacy that is 237 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: so needed and necessary for us to be able to 238 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: throw ove and get our footed. It sounds good at 239 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: this level, but there are those who have the trenches 240 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: who really don't have a basic understand that right what 241 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about the bull in the bay. They got 242 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: no idea that we are not in the conversation about 243 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: inflation and about how that's going to impact every area 244 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: of our lives. But now it's a part apostle responsibility 245 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: of the church to impart that knowledge and to share 246 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: their wisdom. You know, it's really interesting when I hear 247 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: you talk from here that financial literacy that's such a 248 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: big words. It means so much, and sometimes you can 249 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: lets people. They walk in the room and they walk out. 250 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: Really didn't gain anything from the conversation. How can I 251 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: help you know what the mission that you put in 252 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: place in this city this is? You know, I have 253 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: a certain skill, said, I have a have a show 254 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: to be the move forward the narrative. But it's about job. 255 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: It's about economic development, It's about money and getting the 256 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: right jobs in place. How can a person like ru 257 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: Shan McDonald my show can help the cause and move 258 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: the needle? Cry loud and spare not Uh, you're doing 259 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: the dog on thing. We're so much about focus is 260 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: on the entertainment and not on enlightenment. Uh. And so 261 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: what you're doing just in this conversation is a revolutionary 262 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: act in to itself. We like to say we like 263 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: to dance, we like to dribble the ball. We don't 264 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: like to sit down. The average African American post high 265 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: school does not read a nonfiction book from cover to cover. Uh. 266 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: And so you are doing through this podcast, this is 267 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: an audio book. You are giving information that they're not 268 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: getting out of closed libraries on Google. Uh. And so 269 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm just appreciative. Are you staying on the back, Well, 270 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, I appreciate it and thank you because, like 271 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I said, again, we'll be right back with more Money 272 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return to 273 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You said some 274 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: great things are still I'm telling anybody my numbers available, 275 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: my email address is available, This show is available. They 276 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: got the people are young entrepreneurs down a new Black 277 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Let them know they can contact w C 278 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: okay reach out to me. Because of the fact if 279 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: if you, if your business don't have an avenue for 280 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: people to know about it, then it leads to frustration, 281 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: it leads to you, it leads you becoming the victim 282 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: of saying your dream is an impossible task. And my 283 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: whole thing, in my whole life, like I said, I'm 284 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: one of those guys too, from from nothing to something, 285 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the two bedroom shotgun house, six sisters, 286 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: two brothers. My father had the third grade education, truck driver, 287 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: my mama graduated my high school. And so I know 288 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: what you have to do, and you have to follow dream, 289 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: but all you have to have mentors and people who 290 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: believe in you. That role. I think that's what you 291 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: plan as a church leader, correct, I'm endeavoring to do that. 292 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: I think that we've got to one dissolve the old 293 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: school notion that the pastor knows everything is then we've 294 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: got to have circular leadership and not singular leadership. So 295 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: you need people who can educate us not just on finances, 296 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: who can educate us on the law, who can help 297 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: us in civics class, who can help us in this 298 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: whole right to vote quest. Where is the black community's 299 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: voice on road versus way? Where are we in terms 300 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: of gentrification, where are we with the underfunding of public education? 301 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: All of those things. We've got to bring all the 302 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: different seats to de take. And when you bring that 303 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: to the table, that's all about the horizons and the 304 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: new direct direction of new birth that you brought. Now, 305 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: what is the future of new birth and what it 306 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: what's the ultimate goal? If you advanced me that two 307 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: years ago, I've rattled it off with a boozy and 308 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: a silence. But I think that the church, quite frankly, 309 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: is in pubid. Our voice is changing, Our skin has 310 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: uh actnate uh. In the words of the old people, 311 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: we started to smell like outside You're gonna have to 312 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: ask me that probably in another nine months, when the 313 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: dust settles and we're able to see what this church 314 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: look like. I'm doing something my grandparents would have died 315 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: over July in August. I'm only doing in person church 316 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: on first and third Sunday and completely virtual second and 317 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: forth because our numbers really shot up in the pandemic. 318 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: So I gotta see is it really worth it to 319 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: turn the lights on? Uh? Is the impact any different? 320 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: And so I'm trying out a model that I'm not 321 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: seen in a black, old white church. Uh So pray 322 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: for rob? Uh So it nine months? Asked me again? 323 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, dr theres a lot of people 324 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 1: praying for you, a lot of people praying for you. 325 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: But I will get in live to help pray for you. Uh. 326 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it is that it's about charisma, 327 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: is about having a direction, being focused, because the church 328 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: is always the basis. You know, you know, black people 329 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: got faith, black people believe. Black people also can be misled. 330 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: When I say that not a negative way, because it's 331 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: about the information. If you know the right information, you misled. 332 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: And that's what we talk about economics, we talk about literacy, 333 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know it's a joke in the black 334 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: community about putting their child's name on the light bill, 335 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: and that's not a joke, that's real, and then their 336 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: child's life is ruined and so. But but talk about 337 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: your journey and the not in much detail or small 338 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: detail about you know where you come from to this 339 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: point and also the fact that you know your your 340 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: your history in the church is not something that you 341 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: start as part of the family's journey if you can't. 342 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: I am originally from Boston, Massachusetts. I was raised in Baltimore, Maryland. UM. 343 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: I failed the eleventh grade. After I failed the eleventh 344 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: prade but McDonald, my parents sent me to live in Monrovia, Liberria, 345 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: West Africa for a year. UH. For listeners who do 346 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: not know, Liberria is the holy country in Africa that 347 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: was formed by former slaves UH. And so I lived 348 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: there for a year. I came back. I got a 349 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: G E D UH and I'm the first person to 350 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: go to more House with a G E D. I 351 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: graduated from more House Political Science and International Studies and 352 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: UH in tradition of HBCUs. A month before graduation, I 353 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: was alerted that I didn't have enough classes. As an 354 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: International Studies major, I needed to be proficient in a 355 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: light which I wasn't is in a language. The only 356 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: option was to do study abroad. I went through the 357 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: list I saw to do study abroad. The only country 358 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: I could go to with no language requirement for South Africa. 359 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: I go to South Africa and by the luck of 360 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: the draw, God's grace. Uh it is the year of 361 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: the elections and I become Nelson Mandela's youth intern. While 362 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: living there in South Africa, come back. I go to 363 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Duke University. And Duke University significant for me. I went 364 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: there for a master's degree, but many years before I 365 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: went to do my grandfather was a chef at Duke 366 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: University when they didn't let black students there. While a 367 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: student at Duke University, Quai and full May tempted me 368 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: to be National Youth in College Director to end up 369 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: A CP, and I boast the record of being the 370 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: youngest youth directed the nup A CP I've had at 371 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: that time. I came out of the n double a 372 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: c P uh Rashdana, You're not gonna leave my story 373 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: U with our national convention in Charlotte, North Carolina and 374 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: uh quite see him for me has lngitis and asked 375 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: me to give the national address to the N double 376 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: A CP twenty eight years old. The next day, I'm 377 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: on the cover of USA Today. Get off of the 378 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: stage from giving that address, and I met at the 379 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: bottom of the stage, out of one and only did Gregory. 380 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Gregory grabs me and by my collar, throws me up 381 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: against wall. It says to me, young man, you're out 382 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: of order. That ain't word he used. He used the 383 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: other word. Know what he's said. Word, You are out 384 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: of order, he said. When I was growing up black people, 385 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: when they were in trouble, We'll call on Jesus and 386 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: the N double A c P. He said. You're a 387 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: part of a generation that doesn't believe in either. You're 388 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: supposed to be a pastor by the McDonald long story showed. 389 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: I walked out of there, and six months later I 390 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: started my church in Baltimore, forty three members to ten fouls. 391 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: Three years ago, God redirected my path to leave the 392 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: church started to come here to Atlanta the pastor the 393 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Great New Birth Missionary Baptist Church. That's my story in 394 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: a nutshell. We know the beauty of that story. And 395 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I want black people to hear it. I want people 396 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: to hear this in general, is that you can't you 397 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: can't achieve success by yourself. That's the number one thing 398 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: you get away from this store. And then people have 399 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: to see something in you and I give up on you. 400 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: That's also in this store. And when when? And so 401 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: that's that started with the parents. Parents didn't give up 402 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: on him. He failed, but they didn't see failure. And 403 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: then he accepted the challenge and rolls beyond it and 404 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: and everywhere he went, somebody stepped in and moved him forward. Now, 405 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: when those happened, when those moments happen, and you can 406 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: correct me, Dr Bryant, and I think I'm on the 407 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: same page with you. They pushed him to be unknown, 408 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: and that's where a lot of people stop when they 409 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. Fear drops in and they stopped 410 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: moving forward. And that is what's holding back our community 411 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: because we want to know what's happening, and you don't 412 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: always know what's happening when you're trying to achieve success. 413 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: A success is tied to overcome the areknown and overcoming fear. 414 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: And my correct sir, oh no, you more than correct 415 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: and uh, everybody has a testimony. Uh. Let's Brown often says, UH, 416 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: your revenue is in your reflection. What it is that 417 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: you're able excuse me, what you're able to share, what 418 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: you're able to disclose, I'm so sorry, and what it 419 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: is that you have learned from uh? And so I'm grateful. 420 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: So I UH as a consequence of my own journey. 421 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: Like many churches, we give out scholarships, but I am 422 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: intentional not just give scholarships to those who graduate topic 423 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: of class, but those also who graduated bottom of the barrel, right, Uh, 424 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: that they also need an opportunity and need a chance. 425 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: And that's beauty in the progress of HBCUs again, who 426 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: gave students who were not outstand that uh an opportunity 427 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: to thrive and shine. Uh and so young breath. Well, 428 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: here's the interesting thing about to wrap up here is 429 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: that I'm from Houston, Texas. So I've been celebrating June teenth, 430 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, the State of Texas, in the State of 431 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: Texas Holiday forever NASA National Holliday, and now it also 432 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: lands on Father's Day, Okay, and black fathers have always 433 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: been pushed aside or said we are we don't understand 434 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: the value or we're not responsible for You're a black man. 435 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm a black man. I know I can get I 436 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: get hard when I hear I get upset when I 437 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: hear that. Uh. And and knowing that Father's Day is 438 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: coming up, what role or responsibility are you taking upon 439 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: yourself to make sure that black men are being recognized 440 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: for being strong father, strong parents, strong leaders in the 441 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: community moving forward? Yeah, is that your health is your 442 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: wealth r And so on Father's Day, we are doing 443 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: free prostate cancer screenings for all of our brothers because 444 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: so many black men have been impacted by it. And 445 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: the saying is our early prevention leads to secure and 446 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: most black men don't go to the hospital till they 447 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: come through the emergency room. It is also June Team 448 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: that we're setting up these economic portfolios for investment for 449 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: our people to be able to have some greater sense 450 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: of what the strength of their dollar is. So in 451 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: those ways we're gonna affirm as well as trying to 452 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: help fathers who want visitation who have been robbed of 453 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: it to be able to get that through our partner 454 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: with the courts is you know, as as we as 455 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: the pandemic as as you said earlier, has been a 456 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: health and economic crisis, and that's always been a blessing 457 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: for the church. You know, as one we say, I'm 458 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: talking to one of the most influential religious leaders in 459 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: the country, and you Dr Bryant as we as you 460 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: call someone to the altar and someone's listening to this show, 461 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: what is the final message you want them to receive 462 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: so they can walk away with a clear understanding that 463 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: they can be successful. They are walking and blessed shoes. 464 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: They just need to acknowledge it and accept the responsibility 465 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: of hard work. That the church to not over spiritualize. 466 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: It is nothing more than a recycling center. We take 467 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: that which has been discarded, that which has been thrown away, 468 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: that which has imperfections, and helped turn it into something else. 469 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: The essence of who they are remains the same, but 470 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: the shape and the spirit of it is what it 471 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: is that we change. So every Sunday I tell people 472 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: you can come as you are, just be clear you 473 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: won't stay as you are. My guests rose from leventh 474 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: grade dropout to receive a g D, enrolled in Morehouse, 475 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: first time pH d graduate of Duke, and now He 476 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: is the senior pastor of New Birth Mission or Baptist Church. 477 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: He's a leader and also an inspiration and I'm so 478 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: fortunate to have him on show to share these words. 479 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: Know this, whenever you have something, please come to Money 480 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Making Conversas Master Class. I'm a friend, advocate and a 481 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: believer in what you're trying to do to the community. 482 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. I'm appreciative. Thank you so much, 483 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: and don't forget I'm coming back to tell you about 484 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: the future of the church once I figure out what 485 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: it is. Well, I guess what you know something? It 486 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: would be quick then because you got technology on your side. Okay, 487 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Dr Brian, thank you for coming on 488 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: that show. If you want to here this interview, please 489 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: go to Money Making Conversation dot com. I'm with Sean McDonald. 490 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I am your host. Thank you.