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Speaker 1: Burger Me, Up, Burger Me down, Burger Me all around town, Flapjack.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bombing with Eric Andre, the podcast where

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Speaker 1: I talked to friends, comedians, musicians, and others about their

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Speaker 1: worst bombing moments on stage or in public.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've all been there.

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Speaker 1: I talked to the burger scholar George Motts about his

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Speaker 1: time bombing when he was in the New York music scene,

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Speaker 1: and of course.

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Speaker 3: Juicy delicious beef burgers. Let's get into it Bombing with

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Speaker 3: Eric Andre.

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Speaker 2: How did you become the King of the burger? George?

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Speaker 4: It was an accident of complete fluke. What happened, I was?

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Speaker 5: The short story was that I was looking for something

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Speaker 5: to do in the documentary film world. I worked in

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Speaker 5: television commercials, get a little bored, and I decided to

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Speaker 5: start making a hamburger documentary.

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Speaker 2: A culinary school.

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Speaker 6: Nope, Oh, I thought you were like, you went to

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Speaker 6: court On Blue University or whatever the.

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Speaker 2: Fuck it's called.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to do that for hamburgers.

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Speaker 7: That's what.

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Speaker 4: I made it up, the whole thing up myself twenty

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Speaker 4: two plus years ago.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so were you looking for the best burger or

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Speaker 2: you were trying to.

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Speaker 4: What was the I was just trying to find great

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Speaker 4: hamburger stories.

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Speaker 2: Why were you trying to find great hamburger stories?

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Speaker 5: Because I was was trying to make a documentary no

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Speaker 5: one had done before. No one was talking about the

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Speaker 5: hamburger twenty two years ago, and I don't care. Nobody

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Speaker 5: people were hamburger was like something fast food, crappy, ate

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Speaker 5: of McDonald's whatever, or it was something you made in

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Speaker 5: your backyard.

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Speaker 4: No restaurants were really serving great ones back then.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this like this era of like the gourmet burger

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it didn't exist. And I wasn't trying to do anything.

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Speaker 5: I was just trying to tell stories about people who

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Speaker 5: had hamburger restaurants, very simple, like slice of life stuff.

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Speaker 5: The stories about the hamburger as equally as it was

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Speaker 5: about the people who were making them, fun American stories,

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Speaker 5: and ended up a sort of snowball to did this weird?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 4: Twenty two years later, here I am talking to you.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, and then you started making hamburgers yourself or

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Speaker 2: dissecting them or Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I got to the point where I had told a

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Speaker 5: ton of stories and my agent said, you should probably

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Speaker 5: write a cookbook. You know a lot about burgers now,

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Speaker 5: and I said, well, I don't we know how to

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Speaker 5: make hamburgers, so, but you know a lot about them.

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Speaker 5: So I said, okay, I know the histories. I could

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Speaker 5: figure this out. And I started making hamburgers and that

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Speaker 5: was it. I went on the news show whatever it was,

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Speaker 5: almost ten years ago to talk about Hamberger's and they say,

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Speaker 5: what hamberger can you make in four minutes and talk

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Speaker 5: crowd of two undred people, and I said, the Oklahoma

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Speaker 5: Friday ninburger?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that was it.

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Speaker 2: The brilliance is simplicity.

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Speaker 2: I think Connor O'Brien always would say if you overthink,

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Speaker 2: you start to stink and like it. As soon as

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Speaker 6: Too heady or intellectual, you lose the crowd. Art and

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Speaker 6: creativity is primal. It's not intellectual. It's not for a

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Speaker 6: fucking stuffy professor to break down. It has to speak

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Speaker 6: to people's hearts and their organs. It doesn't that would

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Speaker 6: have to speak to their intellect. It has to speak

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Speaker 6: to all their whole body.

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Speaker 2: So I think, like, that's the brilliance of what you do.

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Speaker 4: I love I'm craving a fucking Hamburger and Hamburgers are fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we did a Hamburger shot yesterday. The first second

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Speaker 5: to think of what we're done with the shoot is

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Speaker 5: I want another Hamburger.

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Speaker 6: Okay, what's the worst bomb you've ever experienced? The worst

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Speaker 6: failure in your career or not even in career. It

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Speaker 6: can be in a personal life kind of good question,

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Speaker 6: fall on your face moment or literally.

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Speaker 4: Follow my face.

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Speaker 5: When I was in a band in the nineties, I

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Speaker 5: You know, it would have killed me eventually. But the

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Speaker 5: way back then, I drank way to my I got really,

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Speaker 5: really hammered before I went on stage. Every single night.

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Speaker 5: It was like that was the thing, whiskey, whiskey and

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Speaker 4: So it was a problem.

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Speaker 5: But I would get on stage and completely I was

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Speaker 5: I was. I sounded great, and I was the guy

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Speaker 4: A little flashy, and I would do these jumps.

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Speaker 5: So I was a big fan of Pete Townsend and

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Speaker 5: the Who, and I would try to get air, and

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Speaker 4: I was successful timey air all the time.

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Speaker 5: And one time I literally went straight up in the

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Speaker 4: Saying to me. Looked at me, and he says, what

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Speaker 5: Saying, we're going to take a short break and rebuild

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Speaker 2: Did you break your back?

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Speaker 5: I was so fucked up, I was so hammer. I

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Speaker 5: don't know what. I just I think we took a break.

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Speaker 5: We may have gone back. I think we come back

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Speaker 2: Were you drinking straight whiskey or like I was just

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Speaker 2: I was just stupid drunk. You may I think there

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: We were in a bar, so we I don't know

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Speaker 5: I was just at that moment I promised the band

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Speaker 4: I had a big crowd everything. I would never drink

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Speaker 4: at work or on stage again. So that's the good.

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Speaker 2: That's the good thing.

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Speaker 4: I get drunk after work. I don't get that. After that,

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Speaker 2: Kild do it. I know a pair is nice with

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Speaker 2: whiskey and beer cocaine. It was really well, you're talking

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Speaker 2: about burger condiments. That's a condiment.

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Speaker 4: Get good air there.

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Speaker 7: That's amazing.

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Speaker 6: What about just any documentary making failures or any frustration.

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine making docks because somebody told me somebody

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Speaker 2: They said the average doc takes seven years to make.

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Speaker 5: Or something those like the pro the other pro. I

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Speaker 5: money to do that. I'd ever did that kind of stuff,

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Speaker 5: and we spent I spent two years working on that,

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Speaker 5: my first Hamburger documentary. But that was just because I

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Speaker 5: thing for years and we still actually have it, but

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Speaker 5: the pandemic kind of killed. It's something called the Food

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Speaker 5: Film Festival. And you know, I do know if you

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Speaker 5: know about the food. So what we do is we

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Speaker 5: it's a it's a regular festival that takes submissions but

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Speaker 5: what themes we see, and then we have nights that

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Speaker 5: where you show a bunch of films about a certain

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Speaker 5: audience while they're sitting there, but little pieces of it,

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Speaker 5: little tease like it was that happens, well, it usually

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Speaker 4: We have have the guts to bring it back. But

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Speaker 4: it's a fantastic idea, but.

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Speaker 5: We we did it for years, and we at our peak,

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Speaker 5: we were getting we were actually getting a proclamation from

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Speaker 5: the mayor and we were the Trabeck of cinemas before

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Speaker 4: And there's a kitchen there.

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Speaker 5: We were ready to go in the kitchen, ready to go,

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Speaker 5: and the N cell system went off, which you know,

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Speaker 4: Fire, actual fire.

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Speaker 5: Smoke was only smoke, tons of smoke in the building.

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Speaker 5: We're trying to figure out to get rid of the smoke,

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Speaker 2: Fuck that suck.

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Speaker 4: That was wild. That was we almost we almost lost

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Speaker 2: How did the did you recover food? We did? We

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Speaker 2: actually we tossed all the dusty food. We did.

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Speaker 4: We had what was left over.

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Speaker 5: We ended up we had friends in the neighborhood who

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Speaker 4: It back to the festival. For us, it's like we.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a movie. I mean, that's like, yeah, like

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Speaker 2: I love Lucy, she's on the conveyor. Oh yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: you had to go to outsource the food to like

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Speaker 2: friends in the neighborhood that were like cooking furious we did.

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Speaker 5: We had we had a food truck. Two food trucks

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Speaker 4: I had other friends at a Hamburger restaurant down the

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Speaker 4: streets supplied us with you know, a thousand Hamburgers.

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Speaker 2: That's it's like a Benny Hills.

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Speaker 4: The customers they never knew, they had no.

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Speaker 2: Idea, they had no idea.

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Speaker 4: It's like it all happened a half an hour before doors.

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Speaker 5: I literally I was so relieved. We got completely hammered after.

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Speaker 5: And I remember I have a picture of somewhere there's

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Speaker 5: a trend with you the relationship to work and booze.

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Speaker 4: What I've done.

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Speaker 5: But I remember I took the proclamation, which is if

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Speaker 5: you know what a proclamation looks like, it's like, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like a dead scroll or something.

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Speaker 5: It's it's like a frame piece of art. And I

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Speaker 5: had it my lanyard. I hung it off my lanyard

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Speaker 5: like flavor flames.

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Speaker 4: And walked around with.

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Speaker 7: With Arecdre, with are Godre.

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Speaker 6: What is the guide to the layman? What is like

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Speaker 6: the key to a successful hamburger?

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Speaker 2: What do you avoid?

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Speaker 6: Is there like a list like don't do this, this

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Speaker 6: and this, and then is there like a try to

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Speaker 6: do this, this and this?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well the big one everyone hastes to hear, which

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Speaker 5: is just to get ketchup off your burger for starters,

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Speaker 5: unless you're unless you're combining it with like a sauce

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Speaker 5: like a mayo or mustard or something. Ketchup directly on

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Speaker 4: You don't need that.

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Speaker 4: So if you're from hamburg Germany. You're a hamburger.

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Speaker 4: Anybody could do it.

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Speaker 6: Did you do it in tallow or does it just

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Speaker 4: You're going to create the perfect cooking environment for a hamburger. Okay,

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Speaker 6: So don't you don't have to answer anything. You don't

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Speaker 2: This is just for my own personal journey. I'm following

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Speaker 5: oh yeah, whatever, what the hell does that mean or

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Speaker 5: why is that important? It's because it's a higher fact

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Speaker 4: And fat is flavor.

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Speaker 2: It's all about the fat. Yeah, put salt on the burger?

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Speaker 5: Salt salt cooking cooking elements, Yeah, but not as a flavor.

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Speaker 2: Is so simplistic the beauty of them is there? Simplicity?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now that I'm fucking starving, where where should I

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Speaker 4: What are your were besides yourself burger gps? Right here?

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Speaker 2: What is your What are your favorite New York burger spots?

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Speaker 4: I like this again, the simple ones like J. G. Mellon.

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Speaker 5: You know, I actually like I love controversy, but I

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Speaker 2: Okay, J G Mail and Cornerbo. What about Minetta?

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Speaker 4: That is great?

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Speaker 5: if you can afford it. Hey, it's a great tasting burger.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad I had peanut butter toast.

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Speaker 5: I love cocktails. I like Jamison. Actually was my whiskey

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Speaker 2: Ry You're whiskey, guy. I'm a guy.

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Speaker 2: Rum and rum cocktails. I'm part pirate. I fucking love.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love I love cocktail. I love making cocktails.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 4: You do fat washing with that, I've not gotten that far.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna take you to a fucking there's a

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Speaker 6: Oil or bacon fat oil or brown butter or bacon fat,

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Speaker 2: Put it in the freezer with the booze overnight.

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Speaker 2: You have to really drink it. I want to talk

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Speaker 4: People like the little work.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know it sound like like Neil de grass

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Speaker 2: I'm off the so I'm doing an ayahuasca retreat. I

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, give you I'm doing a fucking I'm doing

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Speaker 2: I wish alcohol was good for you. I wish it

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Speaker 4: It is a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: It makes the demons go away a little bit. They

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Speaker 7: With aer condre, with aerdre.

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Speaker 3: Anything you can think of, like the worst show you've

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Speaker 6: You can, you can, you can, you can protect the innocent.

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Speaker 4: But I will think, let me think, like historic.

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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of comedians bomb. I've seen comedians

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Speaker 4: So that's so tough. That's a tough job. Many I

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Speaker 2: That's not a good idea.

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Speaker 5: No, it's like acting. And then there's then there's comedian.

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Speaker 5: It's like there's a whole different world out there.

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Speaker 6: You are on stage with just a microphone, yea convincing

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Speaker 2: And laugh out loud. Yeah, and you're a complete stranger.

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Speaker 6: So you have to convince them instantly that you are

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Speaker 4: And you're still doing it.

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Speaker 7: I'm still doing.

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Speaker 5: But but did still go back to it? All these guys

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Speaker 5: go back to it, right, It looks like sickness. It's

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Speaker 2: We did not get enough hugs from our dad. My

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Speaker 4: There you have it.

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Speaker 2: Their observations gives a shit.

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Speaker 4: I can't think of a band. I'm sorry. I cannotink.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to. I love music so much. I'm the

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Speaker 5: It's not even worth bringing up that I are not good.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it was something wrong because.

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Speaker 4: and we're all.

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Speaker 2: In the well. I mean, he should have figured that

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Speaker 2: out ahead of the door.

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Speaker 4: I said. I was like, what's happened?

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Speaker 5: It was great to see him, but it was like,

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Speaker 5: I feel bad. It was like, not really a great

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Speaker 5: show unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Like how was he being was being curmudgeted in.

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Speaker 5: Between people in the audience, you know, it was like

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Speaker 5: literally which is normal for him, just not you know,

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Speaker 5: you can tell he was not.

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Speaker 7: A good move.

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Speaker 4: It rubs off on the audience. It's a little Toughezer

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Speaker 4: came out and everyone ross the stage.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he saw that, you know, and probably didn't help. Well,

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Speaker 5: come on, like you know, we're in interpole. That was

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Speaker 5: actually I saw them dulco bombing the show.

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Speaker 2: I forgot about them. Yeah, what happened?

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Speaker 5: I just they just they seemed like they were not

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Speaker 5: playing together. They were another one stage fighting with each other.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so not with us, just with them.

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Speaker 6: They lived Smashing Pumpkins, used to fight on stands, screaming matches.

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Speaker 5: I'm partially deaf because of because of a Smashing Pumpkins

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Speaker 5: show at the Garden, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Oh fuck, it took a few years off your ear.

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Speaker 4: They're ringing right now.

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Speaker 2: It sucks. That's the rough.

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Speaker 6: Beastie Boys took the Bad Brains on tour with them,

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Speaker 6: and Bad Brains General Bad Brains took his mic stand

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Speaker 6: and as somebody in the face. Yeah, the boys were like,

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Speaker 6: you're off the major liability.

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Speaker 7: We can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that. You can't assault the audience. How

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Speaker 2: about a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 4: How of the fact that Beastie Boys opened for Madonna?

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Speaker 2: You know that, Yeah, back in the day. I just

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Speaker 2: read the bas Boys books.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: What a concert to catch, What a moment in time.

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Speaker 2: The ben diagram of Beastie Boys and Madonna fans. I

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Speaker 2: met Madonna recently, Wow, And I played Truth or Dare

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Speaker 2: with her and some other folks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh, I saw that I did see.

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Speaker 2: This, Okay, I did, yes, and it was very intimidated,

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Speaker 2: but it was very It was very I mean, she's

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Speaker 2: a you know, a legend, and she goes, what's your name?

492
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Speaker 2: And I went, my name is Eric Andre. She goes,

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Speaker 2: do you know my name? And I want Madonna Hconi

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Speaker 2: And like everybody's like, oh, you said her last name.

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Speaker 7: Everyone's like.

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Speaker 2: She kind of liked that I knew her last name.

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Speaker 4: She was like, oh shit, doesn't somebody dare her to

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Speaker 4: go on tour? And she did?

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I was I was like duped into a PR Basically,

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Speaker 6: I was like eating dinner next door.

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Speaker 2: This guys like, you want to go play truth or

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Speaker 2: dear Madonna? And we were all like fuck yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then a few comedians that was with they were like,

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Speaker 6: why are there cameras everywhere knows Madonna? And then I

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Speaker 6: saw a few comedians slink away and I was like.

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Speaker 4: Oh but whatever, it's been good stuff.

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Speaker 2: You gotta play truth, you gotta look back on your life,

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Speaker 2: be on your deathbed and go. I played truth there

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Speaker 2: with Madonna exactly. Whether it's a PR stunter, but the

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Speaker 2: cameras ship every day life's a PR stunt there's one

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Speaker 2: pr stunt after the next. I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: But George, what you got coming up for us? Moment?

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Speaker 4: I'm opening a restaurants.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what's it called.

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Speaker 4: It's called Hamburger America.

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Speaker 2: Where's it gonna be?

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Speaker 4: So I live in NoHo, there you go, So to

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Speaker 4: know Hamburger America, which.

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Speaker 5: Is also the name of my book. The original film

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Speaker 5: that I made. The documentary film is also called Hamburger America.

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Speaker 5: This is called The Great American Burger Book? Can I

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Speaker 5: eat your Hamburgers?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely definitely there for sure You'll.

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Speaker 2: Never get rid of me a parasite.

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Speaker 4: George, thanks so much, Thank you, appreciate you for having me.

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Speaker 7: With aeric Core.

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Speaker 2: All right, listen up, we got some disposal for you.

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Speaker 2: Got a burning story that you're itching to tell about

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Speaker 2: when you bombed or absolutely failed in life. Now's your

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Speaker 2: chance to tell me all about it.

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Speaker 7: Babe.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear your worst, most cringe worthy what

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Speaker 2: the fuck was I thinking? What just happened?

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Speaker 7: Moment?

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Speaker 2: So pick up your phone and dial seven to one

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Speaker 2: six bombing. That's seven one six two six six twenty

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Speaker 2: four sixty four and leave me a voicemail and we

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Speaker 2: might just play it on a future episode. Bombing with

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