WEBVTT - The Jeep Wrangler: Saving Democracy, Making Bank

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<v Speaker 1>ninety let's not do that. I'm sorry, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even feel us make the acceleration almost It just like

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<v Speaker 1>jumped things so softly sprung that it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rears back up when you accelerate, and all the mass

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<v Speaker 1>loads they all shift to the back. They're like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>my sunglasses just flues to the back of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>No joke, that's so good. That just n That was me,

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<v Speaker 1>our editor Jan Guera and our producer Sam Dingman going

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<v Speaker 1>ninety miles an hour in a fifty five zone, floating

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<v Speaker 1>the speed limit and common sense even dumber. We're at

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel of a hot rod jeep, the Wrangler Rubicon

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<v Speaker 1>three ninety two. It is so named because it comes

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<v Speaker 1>stuffed with a huge three ninety two cubic inch hemy

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<v Speaker 1>V eight engine making four hundred and seventy horsepower and

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<v Speaker 1>a chassis ill equipped to deal with that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>brute force. The regular jeep is handful enough on the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>This roided up three ninety two. It's enough to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the sunglasses right off your head. This is a muscle

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<v Speaker 1>car engine in a jeep. Did you see how the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing was rocking up and down. I'm Eddie Alterman,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is car show. I've been an automotive journalist

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<v Speaker 1>since i was nineteen years old, and I've driven nearly

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<v Speaker 1>every car that's been made since then, three decades, driving

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<v Speaker 1>some two hundred and fifty new cars a year. The

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<v Speaker 1>math is shocking even to me. For this last decade,

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<v Speaker 1>I was the editor in chief of Car and Driver,

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<v Speaker 1>the world's largest car magazine. I spent my entire life

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<v Speaker 1>around cars and the people who make them. I think

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<v Speaker 1>all cars are great, even the awful ones. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the genre, but some cars transcend there for

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<v Speaker 1>lack of a better term, carness. Some cars have a

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<v Speaker 1>story to tell, which got us thinking, what if we

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<v Speaker 1>did a show that focused on what certain cars mean

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<v Speaker 1>rather than how quick they are? What if we thought

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<v Speaker 1>about what makes certain cars important rather than what makes

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<v Speaker 1>them go on Car Show, We're going to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the vital cars, the ones that have changed how we

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<v Speaker 1>drive and live, whose significance lies outside the scope of

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<v Speaker 1>horsepower or mile square gallon. Because some cars are more

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<v Speaker 1>than just a pile of metal, glass and rubber. Some

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<v Speaker 1>cars are rolling anthropology. This week we're talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Jeep Wrangler. The Wrangler is the direct descendant of the

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<v Speaker 1>original jeep, created in the forties to serve the battlefields

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<v Speaker 1>of World War Two. It was a tool, a Swiss

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<v Speaker 1>army knife of a vehicle that's grown new blades generation.

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<v Speaker 1>But this gym r of an SUV, the three ninety two,

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<v Speaker 1>that's less of a basic military vehicle than a kaleidoscopic

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<v Speaker 1>journey through the asteroid belt of niche marketing. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>absurd outgrowth of an insanely popular vehicle line. There are

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<v Speaker 1>hard top Wranglers and soft top Wranglers, sport versions and

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<v Speaker 1>rubicon trail ready versions. There are two doors and four

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<v Speaker 1>door jeeps, even pickups. There are four cylinders, six cylindar,

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<v Speaker 1>eight cylinder, and even hybrid powered models. There is it

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<v Speaker 1>seems a Jeep for everyone. You know, the jeep contains multitudes.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all kinds of ways to play it. There's all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of facets on the original idea. But it's still

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<v Speaker 1>a jeep. Yeah, you know, in one sense, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a beach toy beachcomber, and another sense it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>serious off rodor of all time. In another sense, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a muscle car in another, and it's you know, first

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<v Speaker 1>car for a private school kid. Where do you think that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I do associate it with the beach, but a

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<v Speaker 1>car for beach driving or like cruising up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the boardwalk feels so out of step with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of a military hauler one hundred and eighty degrees away

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Where did that come from? Good question, because

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<v Speaker 1>Sam isn't talking about the beaches of Normandy. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do we get to this point? How did the jeep

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<v Speaker 1>go from the Arden forest to planet fitness? What energy

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<v Speaker 1>was latent in that first Jeep that allowed it to

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<v Speaker 1>thrive over eight decades even as the world seems increasingly

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<v Speaker 1>dead set against it. On this episode, we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>why the Jeep Wrangler is the most American vehicle of

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<v Speaker 1>all time and along the way, we'll hear from folks

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<v Speaker 1>will tell us what the Jeep means to them. People

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<v Speaker 1>love talking about their jeeps. I feel very connected to

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<v Speaker 1>the Americana element of jeeps. I've always been a huge

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the Jeeps. I just love the way they look,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of thought that I should have one

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<v Speaker 1>before I die. The seatbelt situation was insane. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was safe in there, like it had a roll bar,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did drove that thing like crazy. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really joyful car and there's never a top on it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of cool, but it's not pretentious and

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<v Speaker 1>just invokes a sense of fun to me. After the

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<v Speaker 1>break the Rise of the Jeep, I'm Eddie Alterman, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is Car Show. We'll be right back. The base

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<v Speaker 1>version of the Jeep Wrangler is agricultural. It's unrefined. It

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<v Speaker 1>likes to veer all over the place on the highway,

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<v Speaker 1>putting a hemmy in it, as Jeep did for this

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<v Speaker 1>Wrangler three ninety two would appear to tempt fate, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet the three ninety two and eighty thousand dollars elephant

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<v Speaker 1>on roller skates makes a perverse kind of sense. The

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<v Speaker 1>jeep is everything to all people. It's a war hero,

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<v Speaker 1>a beach bugget, an army mule, a cultural movement, a

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<v Speaker 1>Barbie accessory, a fraternity, a sorority, and now a muscle cover.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the cool thing about this vehicle is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's like sort of like nothing else on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>You have this really short windshield, it's almost in your

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<v Speaker 1>face and totally upright. You have these really square peel

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<v Speaker 1>off doors, you have a peel off top. You're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>really high off the ground. You can see all four

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<v Speaker 1>corners of the vehicle. There's a high hit point. You're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of up in the air on this thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>in this day and age, very few vehicles have that

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<v Speaker 1>sense of uniqueness that there's really nothing else like it

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. And I think that's a great part

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<v Speaker 1>of its appeal. So how can something so out of

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<v Speaker 1>step with a modern automotive environment be so popular, so varied,

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<v Speaker 1>and so right for so many people. There really is

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<v Speaker 1>a jeep culture. Get a lot of conversations with strangers,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of recognition, and a lot of love. People

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<v Speaker 1>people love talking about their jeeps. You know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you just fall for these machines and you appreciate people

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<v Speaker 1>who have also Jeep cells roughly as many Wranglers as

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<v Speaker 1>Honda sells accords. Unlike the Honda, though, the Jeep Wrangler

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<v Speaker 1>is an anachronism, a bulwark against the endless refinements of

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<v Speaker 1>the car industry with its fixations on noise, emissions, fuel economy,

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<v Speaker 1>and passenger comfort and safety. In a world where carmakers

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<v Speaker 1>are swearing off internal combustion engines for battery powered electric vehicles,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeep says, screw that free trade, farmers market, NPR, tote, bag,

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<v Speaker 1>tote and crap. I've got a huge V eight under

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<v Speaker 1>the hood. I'm the proud owner of a Jeep CJ seven,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is a car that isn't particularly snobby

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<v Speaker 1>or inaccessible. It was something that I felt was part

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<v Speaker 1>of a community in a way that you didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>really have to intentionally tap into. It just existed. This

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<v Speaker 1>sla sided mule designed for the Second World War, thumbs

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<v Speaker 1>its nose that sophisticated luxury electric SUVs with their limited

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<v Speaker 1>range and utility, and it out sells them by huge margins.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wrangler, that rectilinear shape your mind conjures when you

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<v Speaker 1>hear the word Jeep is a remarkably durable idea, even

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<v Speaker 1>in those eras when the vehicle itself wasn't all that durable.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jeep brand has persisted through more than seven decades

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<v Speaker 1>without losing its essence. Depending on who's counting, Jeep has

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<v Speaker 1>survived nine corporate custodians and emerged stronger for it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>an organism that consumes its host, Its sales have steadily

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<v Speaker 1>increased to roughly two hundred thousand vehicles a year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has spawned an entire range of vehicles with names

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<v Speaker 1>like Gladiator, Patriot, Liberty. This year, a new Grand Wagon

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<v Speaker 1>ar Mega Suv emerged, broad of beam and festooned with chrome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sticker price can easily top one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that. We are at a point now where

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<v Speaker 1>Jeeps command Mercedes Benz money. There's really no better brand

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<v Speaker 1>than the automotive realm, except perhaps Ferrari. Jeep is to

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<v Speaker 1>the suv as kleenex is to facial tissue, as coke

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<v Speaker 1>is Takola. As I discussed with my producer Sam, Jeep

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<v Speaker 1>is the eponym. It's the icon. When I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted an orange, cheap wrangler more than anything, because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it would be so cool to pull into

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot in high school in an orange jeep Wrangler.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not alone. And I had this whole image of

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<v Speaker 1>myself like taking my friends to the beach on the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend in it. Even though I was not like a

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<v Speaker 1>beach on the weekend type of kid. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>like indie movie theater on the weekend type of kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But just there was something about the Wrangler that signified

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<v Speaker 1>like ease and freedom to me. This is the freedom machine, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Enzo Ferrari called it America's only sports car,

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<v Speaker 1>and and he meant that in the pejorative, but it

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<v Speaker 1>really is built for a different kind of fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's built to go anywhere and do anything. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>anachronistic and it's highly desirable. I mean, it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that toy like quality of it. And also I think

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that you're kind of playing army guy has

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of appeal. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>thought of that, but I think that was somewhere at

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<v Speaker 1>the center of probably my misplaced desire for one of

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<v Speaker 1>these when I was in high school, was it was

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<v Speaker 1>a way of seeming like a cool beach guy. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also kind of a soldier, you know, right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>why do young kids play with army men? Gives them

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<v Speaker 1>that sense of power like they're in command, they're in control,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of that wrapt up in this vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>A Jeep Wrangler is meant to be in the mud,

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<v Speaker 1>off the highway, climbing steep slick grades with its axles locked.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost nobody does this. Only about ten to fifteen percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeep Wrangler owners ever venture off the pavement. To

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<v Speaker 1>most of them, off road means parking lot. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>its drivers will never use a fraction of the jeep's capabilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it shines is off the beaten path, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>knobby tires and upright aerodynamically inefficient bodywork are virtues, not vices.

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<v Speaker 1>It is to the freeway as a pork sandwich is

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<v Speaker 1>to the passover sader. In some respects. It's that off

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<v Speaker 1>road capability that makes the Wrangler so alluring. It's also

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<v Speaker 1>the essence of the entire Jeep brand and what allows

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<v Speaker 1>it to charge eighty thousand dollars for this one and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand for a family holler like the grand

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<v Speaker 1>Wagon ear. The off rounning prowess gives the brand meaning

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<v Speaker 1>you're buying competence, most of which you'll never use. Car

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<v Speaker 1>marketers have a phrase for this concept of unused capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called perceived performance. It's why people want the track

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<v Speaker 1>ready portion of nine to eleven GT three rs, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they'll never take their car to the racetrack. Just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that the car can do all this heroic stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is good enough and worth paying a premium for. It

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<v Speaker 1>drives unlike any other car you will ever drive in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. In retrospect, it is super impractical. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>like it now as a father of three, I look back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. Like the seatbelt situation was insane. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was safe in that, like it had a roll bar,

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<v Speaker 1>like if we rolled over, there was a bar, But

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<v Speaker 1>my dad drove that thing like crazy, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>also sort of subsequently driveled like crazy. This Wrangler we're driving,

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<v Speaker 1>the three ninety two is also a ridiculous and great

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<v Speaker 1>muscle car, probably closer to the chaotic, undrivability and lunacy

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<v Speaker 1>of the original muscle cars than today's Dodge Chargers and Challengers.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wrangler is the centerpiece of the only car brand

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<v Speaker 1>that truly cuts across all market segments and socioeconomic strata.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants a Jeep. The Jeep's abstract power lies in

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<v Speaker 1>its authentic ties to its military roots. It needs to

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<v Speaker 1>feel different than a Chevy Equinox or Toyota Highlander because

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<v Speaker 1>it is different. It strikes me as you're describing that

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<v Speaker 1>that there's probably a lot of other SUVs in this

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<v Speaker 1>class where the interior is trying to make you think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that you're in a luxury sedan even though

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually driving a four wheel drive machine, whereas this

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<v Speaker 1>car is going to great lengths to remind you like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still a Jeap. It's definitely a Jeap, that's right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that people want that authentic experience to

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<v Speaker 1>the extent that, you know, there is this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>counter movement in SUVs right now toward more authentic, more

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate off roady sorts of vehicles like the Bronco, like

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<v Speaker 1>the land Rover Defender that's just been been relaunched, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And there's this movement away from SUVs as family cars,

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<v Speaker 1>back toward a more kind of rugged sensibility. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>happened over time is because people have so loved some

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<v Speaker 1>of the attributes of the suv, like the high seating position,

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to really get anything in the back, that

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<v Speaker 1>they become so popular and have made so many concessions

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<v Speaker 1>to comfort that people sort of think of them as

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<v Speaker 1>family cars now or minivan sur rogans. It's tempting for

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<v Speaker 1>me hearing you talk about the authenticity piece of the

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<v Speaker 1>off roading roots of this car to also make a

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<v Speaker 1>connection between the fact that we as humans are spending

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<v Speaker 1>less and less time in the real world and separating

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves from the metaphorical bumps in the road more than ever. Yeah, man, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like peboard craving experiences, and this car is an

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<v Speaker 1>experience self contained. Deep down, the Jeep needs to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like an unrefined war machine. The brand's imagery is powered

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<v Speaker 1>by that authenticity, that sense that it can dominate any terrain,

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<v Speaker 1>that it is purpose built for its mission, that it

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<v Speaker 1>could charge into battle when the bad guys show up

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<v Speaker 1>with the case nukes. It's a hero, and to drive

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<v Speaker 1>one is to assume that role. After the break, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to war. America prefers all America orders its pattern

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<v Speaker 1>of life work to meet the demand for protection industry

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<v Speaker 1>is a double step to supply the sinews of safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Before it donned at Civis and one on sale as

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<v Speaker 1>a passenger vehicle, the jeep was pivotal to American success

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<v Speaker 1>in the Second World War, and for all the influence

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<v Speaker 1>and reach of this brand now, the peculiar thing is

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<v Speaker 1>at its inception cheap wasn't even a brand per se.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a type of vehicle, a general purpose GP

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<v Speaker 1>light truck to supply the troops, made by various manufacturers.

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<v Speaker 1>America's basque resources are harnessed to the job of being

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<v Speaker 1>the world arsenal or this and other democracies. Its present

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<v Speaker 1>day production of armaments is but a mere fraction of

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<v Speaker 1>the great job, but live ahead. In preparation for entering

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<v Speaker 1>the conflict, Washington knew that this war would be one

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<v Speaker 1>of mechanized combat, and that it needed a mechanical replacement

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<v Speaker 1>for World War One's army mules, yes, actual mules. The

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<v Speaker 1>army needed something that could go anywhere, carrying men and

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<v Speaker 1>weapons on and off the battlefield, something that didn't run

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<v Speaker 1>on oats. Based on much failed testing of other white

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<v Speaker 1>yet rugged concepts, including a stripped down forward model t

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<v Speaker 1>Army engineers settled on the basic specifications. It needed four

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<v Speaker 1>wheel drive in a certain minimum level of performance, with

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<v Speaker 1>loads of climbing and care capability. At one point, they

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<v Speaker 1>even specified four wheel steering so that a rear facing

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<v Speaker 1>driver with his own steering wheel could take control of

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle and reverse out of danger in the event

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<v Speaker 1>of an ambush. The vehicle had to weigh no more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirteen hundred pounds but be capable of hauling six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds, and the timeline was super tight, less than

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<v Speaker 1>three months to deliver a selection of working models. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, the Army's expectations were totally unrealistic. It sent

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<v Speaker 1>the bid out to some one hundred and thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers and was sure that this massive and literal call

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<v Speaker 1>to arms would be answered in force. Only two companies

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<v Speaker 1>submitted bids, American Bantam out of Butler, Pennsylvania and Willis

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<v Speaker 1>Overland out of Toledo, Ohio. Bantam won their preliminary contract,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the end it was the Willis design that prevailed.

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<v Speaker 1>Ford started making them too, and used the GP designation

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<v Speaker 1>for its version of the model. Some say that the

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<v Speaker 1>name jeep came not from a contraction of the GP initials,

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<v Speaker 1>but from a character in a comic strip. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>confirm that. It seems more interesting to entertain the notion

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<v Speaker 1>that the first jeep was actually a Ford. Anyway, America

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<v Speaker 1>got itself an innovative for the time light transport vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>that could do everything and go everywhere. The GP guided

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<v Speaker 1>into France during the invasion of Normandy June six d Day.

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<v Speaker 1>A great plan is put to the test. American soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>hit the beach, It slogged through the bulge, It plied

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<v Speaker 1>the North African sands. Because the fighting develops, every means

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<v Speaker 1>is used to hasten the removal of the wounded from

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<v Speaker 1>the scene of battle. The wearing farm plows, it dug

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<v Speaker 1>trenches for telephone lines. And that's to say nothing of

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<v Speaker 1>its workaday applications. And you were saying part of the

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<v Speaker 1>appeal of the traditional wrangler was the flat flatness of

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<v Speaker 1>the hood, right, Yeah, there are stories about the flatness

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<v Speaker 1>of the hood being a place where you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of work got done, lunches were eaten. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an altar for Chaplains to give mass on. That flatness

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<v Speaker 1>of the hood was sort of core to the original design.

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<v Speaker 1>The jeep of all trades is pressed into service and

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<v Speaker 1>proves itself again, Which brings us to an interesting point.

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<v Speaker 1>When we talk about the jeep being authentic and people

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<v Speaker 1>buying into that realness, what are we really talking about. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>on one level, the notion of authenticity arises from functionality.

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<v Speaker 1>The jeep reinforces that functionality and capability at every turn,

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<v Speaker 1>at every touch point. They are a little visual military

0:23:08.516 --> 0:23:12.556
<v Speaker 1>jeep east or eggs all over these vehicles, tiny graphics

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<v Speaker 1>of army jeeps crawling up the windshield glass and lights

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<v Speaker 1>in the dash that read since nineteen forty one. That

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<v Speaker 1>connection to its origin story is something that jeep carefully curates.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about Rolex watches. If you want one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more prized models, the Submarner or maybe the sky Dweller,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to cost you ten, twenty, maybe even forty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand bucks. But people are tripping over themselves to pay

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<v Speaker 1>those prices, and the reason has less to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of the piece or the cost of the

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<v Speaker 1>materials than the story. The bottom line is that those

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<v Speaker 1>Rolexes were built to do jobs, and they did those

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<v Speaker 1>jobs either first or better than any other watch. They

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<v Speaker 1>are chunky and clunky, and they don't often keep great time.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not the elegant gold wrist watches that used

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<v Speaker 1>to define success. What they telegraph is the status of action,

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<v Speaker 1>of power, of mastery, and that functional authenticity is worth

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to people. So it is with Jeep. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>the Jeep has a deeper context than any time piece,

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<v Speaker 1>And here, finally is the real essence of the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate core sample of its meaning. To Americans and

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<v Speaker 1>indeed other Western countries, where it's always been sold as

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<v Speaker 1>a luxury good. The Jeep represents a connection not just

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<v Speaker 1>to war, but to a specific war. The one embedded

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<v Speaker 1>in America's consciousness is our last good war, the last

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<v Speaker 1>war we could understand a clear cut conflict between right

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<v Speaker 1>and wrong, the last war where we were unambiguously the

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<v Speaker 1>victors and the heroes. The Jeep represents America's yearning for

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<v Speaker 1>the simplicity and moral clarity of World War two. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about those jeep naming conventions for a second Gladiator. Patriot

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<v Speaker 1>liberty cynics might argue that they are evidenced of some

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<v Speaker 1>wild shit about the American psyche, that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>warrior complex that we glorify theatrical, large scale conflicts and

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<v Speaker 1>the war machines used in them. That may be true,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think the impulses around the jeep are a

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<v Speaker 1>bit nobler than that. Through the jeep. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to that brief moment of packs Americana that

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<v Speaker 1>existed in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War.

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere since then has only made many Americans questioned the

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<v Speaker 1>justifications behind the conflicts Korea, Vietnam, Racks one and two, Afghanistan.

0:26:04.436 --> 0:26:09.036
<v Speaker 1>They were all opaque, distant and remote, with no clear cause.

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<v Speaker 1>As an effect, proxy wars, cold wars, allegedly ideological ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the attacks of nine to eleven presented a threat

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent to or exceeding that of Pearl Harbor, and in

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<v Speaker 1>that case we responded with an agenda and false claims

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<v Speaker 1>of WMD's in Iraq, there's a concept in the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>called blowback. It doesn't mean the unintended consequences of America's

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<v Speaker 1>military actions, but rather the unintended consequences of covert operations.

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<v Speaker 1>How fed up is that assassinations, regime changes, drone strikes

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<v Speaker 1>and sanctions that impel US ever deeper into inscrutable conflicts.

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two wasn't like that. It was the first

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<v Speaker 1>real buildup of American military might. It made a superpower.

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<v Speaker 1>The military industrial complex it spawned, and that President Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 1>warned us about in nineteen sixty one on his way

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<v Speaker 1>out of office, that was about enforcement. We now stand

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<v Speaker 1>ten years past the midpoint of a century that has

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these

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<v Speaker 1>involved our own country. Despite these holocausts, a Maratha is

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<v Speaker 1>today the strongest, the most influential, and most productive nation

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. The Maratha's leadership and prestige depends not

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<v Speaker 1>merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches, and military strength,

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<v Speaker 1>but on how we use our power in the years

0:27:56.076 --> 0:28:01.396
<v Speaker 1>of world peace and human better World War Two built

0:28:01.396 --> 0:28:05.876
<v Speaker 1>our global position. Everything afterward attempted to maintain a profit

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<v Speaker 1>from it has messed up. As it sounds, the Second

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<v Speaker 1>World War was America's feel good war, uncomplicated and wholly embraced,

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<v Speaker 1>a moment of unvarnished glory for our country. Watch any

0:28:20.836 --> 0:28:24.556
<v Speaker 1>World War two documentary and you'll hear old veterans talked

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<v Speaker 1>proudly about how they killed Nazis at knife point fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The jeep is our connection back to that moment. The

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<v Speaker 1>jeep isn't just a means of getting from point A

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<v Speaker 1>to point B. It is a mobile emblem of freedom

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<v Speaker 1>and independence. It's why Jeep has worked so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the Ranger the way it has always been, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's why that basic jeep can fetch ever higher prices.

0:28:49.916 --> 0:28:52.996
<v Speaker 1>The feeling it gives us grows more valuable the further

0:28:53.076 --> 0:28:56.956
<v Speaker 1>it recedes. By way of contrast, look at the Hummer,

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<v Speaker 1>another military off rotor, but this one has no such

0:29:00.276 --> 0:29:03.956
<v Speaker 1>exalted provenance or staying power. It was not the mule

0:29:03.956 --> 0:29:07.716
<v Speaker 1>of World War Two, but of the Iraq Wars. General

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<v Speaker 1>Motors canceled it as a Sumer brand in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is only bringing it back now. But as

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<v Speaker 1>an electric pickup truck, it couldn't drive away fast enough

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<v Speaker 1>from all it represented. Once Schwartz Coough's war machine now

0:29:22.556 --> 0:29:30.916
<v Speaker 1>here to save the earth. The Jeep, however, always, always,

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<v Speaker 1>always refers back to the Second World War, from its

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<v Speaker 1>color palette with its olive drabs, to its graphics packages

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<v Speaker 1>with their stencils and stars. In the Jeep, everyone's a victor.

0:29:44.796 --> 0:29:47.716
<v Speaker 1>Everyone shares in the glory whether you take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the trails, the beach or the forest. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>great things about owning a jeep I might drive around

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<v Speaker 1>who brings me a huge amount of joy? In many ways,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to bring enjoyment to almost everyone who sees it.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants to talk to me, everyone wants to say hello.

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<v Speaker 1>And Wade kids, you know, no matter who they are

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<v Speaker 1>and no matter where they come from, always going to

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<v Speaker 1>toggling their mums or dad's hands to say that pleased

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<v Speaker 1>and we can found look that car team seems to

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<v Speaker 1>make everyone so happy. And you know, it's smelly, and

0:30:13.836 --> 0:30:17.116
<v Speaker 1>it's awkward, and it's not comfortable, and it's kind of dangerous,

0:30:17.436 --> 0:30:19.556
<v Speaker 1>but like it's the best thing to drive in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that wild? Somehow everybody wants it cheap? Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's because it's so interlaced with the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of being American. It's so interlaced with that identity that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll pay any cost to be part of that story.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll put up with this crazy woollie highway driving behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost enhances the experience. You'll put up with an

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<v Speaker 1>eighty thousand dollars price tag to get it. You just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be part of it, and it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>who you are. And this is one of those threads

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<v Speaker 1>in the American fabric. This is one of those things

0:30:58.356 --> 0:31:02.476
<v Speaker 1>that make that ties us together. This vehicle, this thing

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<v Speaker 1>like feeds off our conception of ourselves as rugged in individualists,

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<v Speaker 1>go anywhere withstand any kind of torture, do anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet have fun, be having fun the whole time. Like

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<v Speaker 1>With's smile out a phrase authenticity, freedom, the pursuit of happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>This is America on four wheels with an optional canvas

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<v Speaker 1>top car. Show is written and hosted by me Eddie Alterman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's produced by Sam Dingman, Jacob Smith, and Amy Gaines.

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<v Speaker 1>Our editor is Jen Guera. Original music and mastering by

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Tomiday. Our executive producer is Mia lo Bell. Our

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<v Speaker 1>show art was designed by Sean Ernie and airbrushed by

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Lafeever. Our patron saints are Leetam Malad and Justine Lange.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources for this episode included the Story of Jeep by

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick R. Foster and the Jeep Owner's Bible by Moses

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<v Speaker 1>lou Dell. Special thanks to Stilantis for the insanely fun

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<v Speaker 1>ride in the Cheap Wrangler Rubicon three ninety two and

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