1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:22,956 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Hey Eddie here, before we get started, I wanted 2 00:00:22,996 --> 00:00:24,916 Speaker 1: you to know that you can listen to Car Show 3 00:00:24,956 --> 00:00:29,276 Speaker 1: ad free by becoming a Pushkin Plus subscriber. You'll also 4 00:00:29,316 --> 00:00:32,796 Speaker 1: get access to detours, bonus episodes of Car Show where 5 00:00:32,836 --> 00:00:37,676 Speaker 1: we go for extended drives, play outtakes, and more fine 6 00:00:37,716 --> 00:00:40,636 Speaker 1: Pushkin Plus on the Car Show page, in Apple Podcasts, 7 00:00:41,156 --> 00:00:57,676 Speaker 1: or at pushkin dot Fm. Listen to that. Okay, that's 8 00:00:57,796 --> 00:01:04,996 Speaker 1: ninety let's not do that. I'm sorry, but I didn't 9 00:01:05,036 --> 00:01:08,036 Speaker 1: even feel us make the acceleration almost It just like 10 00:01:08,236 --> 00:01:11,876 Speaker 1: jumped things so softly sprung that it just kind of 11 00:01:11,876 --> 00:01:15,276 Speaker 1: rears back up when you accelerate, and all the mass 12 00:01:15,876 --> 00:01:20,396 Speaker 1: loads they all shift to the back. They're like, whoa, 13 00:01:20,756 --> 00:01:24,436 Speaker 1: my sunglasses just flues to the back of my head. 14 00:01:24,556 --> 00:01:29,996 Speaker 1: No joke, that's so good. That just n That was me, 15 00:01:30,276 --> 00:01:33,836 Speaker 1: our editor Jan Guera and our producer Sam Dingman going 16 00:01:33,956 --> 00:01:36,996 Speaker 1: ninety miles an hour in a fifty five zone, floating 17 00:01:37,076 --> 00:01:41,276 Speaker 1: the speed limit and common sense even dumber. We're at 18 00:01:41,316 --> 00:01:44,436 Speaker 1: the wheel of a hot rod jeep, the Wrangler Rubicon 19 00:01:44,796 --> 00:01:48,156 Speaker 1: three ninety two. It is so named because it comes 20 00:01:48,196 --> 00:01:51,716 Speaker 1: stuffed with a huge three ninety two cubic inch hemy 21 00:01:51,796 --> 00:01:55,516 Speaker 1: V eight engine making four hundred and seventy horsepower and 22 00:01:55,596 --> 00:01:58,196 Speaker 1: a chassis ill equipped to deal with that kind of 23 00:01:58,236 --> 00:02:02,756 Speaker 1: brute force. The regular jeep is handful enough on the highway. 24 00:02:02,996 --> 00:02:05,956 Speaker 1: This roided up three ninety two. It's enough to pull 25 00:02:05,956 --> 00:02:09,956 Speaker 1: the sunglasses right off your head. This is a muscle 26 00:02:09,996 --> 00:02:19,636 Speaker 1: car engine in a jeep. Did you see how the 27 00:02:19,636 --> 00:02:24,836 Speaker 1: whole thing was rocking up and down. I'm Eddie Alterman, 28 00:02:25,356 --> 00:02:30,796 Speaker 1: and this is car show. I've been an automotive journalist 29 00:02:30,956 --> 00:02:33,756 Speaker 1: since i was nineteen years old, and I've driven nearly 30 00:02:33,796 --> 00:02:38,676 Speaker 1: every car that's been made since then, three decades, driving 31 00:02:38,756 --> 00:02:42,796 Speaker 1: some two hundred and fifty new cars a year. The 32 00:02:42,876 --> 00:02:46,716 Speaker 1: math is shocking even to me. For this last decade, 33 00:02:47,156 --> 00:02:49,156 Speaker 1: I was the editor in chief of Car and Driver, 34 00:02:49,596 --> 00:02:53,596 Speaker 1: the world's largest car magazine. I spent my entire life 35 00:02:53,596 --> 00:02:57,356 Speaker 1: around cars and the people who make them. I think 36 00:02:57,396 --> 00:03:00,716 Speaker 1: all cars are great, even the awful ones. I'm a 37 00:03:00,716 --> 00:03:04,996 Speaker 1: fan of the genre, but some cars transcend there for 38 00:03:05,116 --> 00:03:08,916 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, carness. Some cars have a 39 00:03:09,116 --> 00:03:14,716 Speaker 1: story to tell, which got us thinking, what if we 40 00:03:14,756 --> 00:03:17,156 Speaker 1: did a show that focused on what certain cars mean 41 00:03:17,836 --> 00:03:20,636 Speaker 1: rather than how quick they are? What if we thought 42 00:03:20,636 --> 00:03:24,036 Speaker 1: about what makes certain cars important rather than what makes 43 00:03:24,036 --> 00:03:30,316 Speaker 1: them go on Car Show, We're going to look at 44 00:03:30,316 --> 00:03:33,356 Speaker 1: the vital cars, the ones that have changed how we 45 00:03:33,476 --> 00:03:37,676 Speaker 1: drive and live, whose significance lies outside the scope of 46 00:03:37,716 --> 00:03:42,796 Speaker 1: horsepower or mile square gallon. Because some cars are more 47 00:03:42,836 --> 00:03:46,876 Speaker 1: than just a pile of metal, glass and rubber. Some 48 00:03:46,956 --> 00:03:53,956 Speaker 1: cars are rolling anthropology. This week we're talking about the 49 00:03:54,036 --> 00:03:58,076 Speaker 1: Jeep Wrangler. The Wrangler is the direct descendant of the 50 00:03:58,116 --> 00:04:01,996 Speaker 1: original jeep, created in the forties to serve the battlefields 51 00:04:01,996 --> 00:04:06,076 Speaker 1: of World War Two. It was a tool, a Swiss 52 00:04:06,156 --> 00:04:09,796 Speaker 1: army knife of a vehicle that's grown new blades generation. 53 00:04:10,636 --> 00:04:13,956 Speaker 1: But this gym r of an SUV, the three ninety two, 54 00:04:14,556 --> 00:04:18,316 Speaker 1: that's less of a basic military vehicle than a kaleidoscopic 55 00:04:18,396 --> 00:04:22,036 Speaker 1: journey through the asteroid belt of niche marketing. It's an 56 00:04:22,076 --> 00:04:26,196 Speaker 1: absurd outgrowth of an insanely popular vehicle line. There are 57 00:04:26,236 --> 00:04:30,116 Speaker 1: hard top Wranglers and soft top Wranglers, sport versions and 58 00:04:30,236 --> 00:04:33,876 Speaker 1: rubicon trail ready versions. There are two doors and four 59 00:04:33,916 --> 00:04:37,756 Speaker 1: door jeeps, even pickups. There are four cylinders, six cylindar, 60 00:04:37,836 --> 00:04:41,796 Speaker 1: eight cylinder, and even hybrid powered models. There is it 61 00:04:41,916 --> 00:04:46,036 Speaker 1: seems a Jeep for everyone. You know, the jeep contains multitudes. 62 00:04:46,316 --> 00:04:49,556 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of ways to play it. There's all 63 00:04:49,636 --> 00:04:53,956 Speaker 1: kinds of facets on the original idea. But it's still 64 00:04:53,956 --> 00:04:59,236 Speaker 1: a jeep. Yeah, you know, in one sense, it's like 65 00:04:59,436 --> 00:05:03,316 Speaker 1: a beach toy beachcomber, and another sense it's the most 66 00:05:03,316 --> 00:05:06,516 Speaker 1: serious off rodor of all time. In another sense, it's 67 00:05:06,556 --> 00:05:12,316 Speaker 1: a muscle car in another, and it's you know, first 68 00:05:12,356 --> 00:05:17,156 Speaker 1: car for a private school kid. Where do you think that? 69 00:05:19,636 --> 00:05:24,436 Speaker 1: Because I do associate it with the beach, but a 70 00:05:24,596 --> 00:05:27,236 Speaker 1: car for beach driving or like cruising up and down 71 00:05:27,236 --> 00:05:30,676 Speaker 1: the boardwalk feels so out of step with the idea 72 00:05:30,876 --> 00:05:35,876 Speaker 1: of a military hauler one hundred and eighty degrees away 73 00:05:35,956 --> 00:05:40,716 Speaker 1: from it. Where did that come from? Good question, because 74 00:05:40,716 --> 00:05:44,196 Speaker 1: Sam isn't talking about the beaches of Normandy. So how 75 00:05:44,196 --> 00:05:46,836 Speaker 1: do we get to this point? How did the jeep 76 00:05:46,956 --> 00:05:51,236 Speaker 1: go from the Arden forest to planet fitness? What energy 77 00:05:51,356 --> 00:05:53,996 Speaker 1: was latent in that first Jeep that allowed it to 78 00:05:54,036 --> 00:05:57,996 Speaker 1: thrive over eight decades even as the world seems increasingly 79 00:05:58,076 --> 00:06:03,756 Speaker 1: dead set against it. On this episode, we'll talk about 80 00:06:03,756 --> 00:06:06,796 Speaker 1: why the Jeep Wrangler is the most American vehicle of 81 00:06:06,836 --> 00:06:10,396 Speaker 1: all time and along the way, we'll hear from folks 82 00:06:10,396 --> 00:06:13,516 Speaker 1: will tell us what the Jeep means to them. People 83 00:06:13,556 --> 00:06:17,836 Speaker 1: love talking about their jeeps. I feel very connected to 84 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:22,356 Speaker 1: the Americana element of jeeps. I've always been a huge 85 00:06:22,396 --> 00:06:24,156 Speaker 1: fan of the Jeeps. I just love the way they look, 86 00:06:24,716 --> 00:06:27,196 Speaker 1: and I kind of thought that I should have one 87 00:06:27,236 --> 00:06:32,036 Speaker 1: before I die. The seatbelt situation was insane. I guess 88 00:06:32,036 --> 00:06:35,156 Speaker 1: it was safe in there, like it had a roll bar, 89 00:06:35,516 --> 00:06:39,316 Speaker 1: but I did drove that thing like crazy. It's a 90 00:06:39,356 --> 00:06:42,396 Speaker 1: really joyful car and there's never a top on it, 91 00:06:42,436 --> 00:06:46,476 Speaker 1: and it's sort of cool, but it's not pretentious and 92 00:06:46,556 --> 00:06:52,876 Speaker 1: just invokes a sense of fun to me. After the 93 00:06:52,916 --> 00:06:56,436 Speaker 1: break the Rise of the Jeep, I'm Eddie Alterman, and 94 00:06:56,476 --> 00:07:18,756 Speaker 1: this is Car Show. We'll be right back. The base 95 00:07:18,916 --> 00:07:23,996 Speaker 1: version of the Jeep Wrangler is agricultural. It's unrefined. It 96 00:07:24,116 --> 00:07:27,036 Speaker 1: likes to veer all over the place on the highway, 97 00:07:27,396 --> 00:07:29,836 Speaker 1: putting a hemmy in it, as Jeep did for this 98 00:07:29,916 --> 00:07:34,316 Speaker 1: Wrangler three ninety two would appear to tempt fate, and 99 00:07:34,476 --> 00:07:38,396 Speaker 1: yet the three ninety two and eighty thousand dollars elephant 100 00:07:38,436 --> 00:07:45,996 Speaker 1: on roller skates makes a perverse kind of sense. The 101 00:07:46,116 --> 00:07:50,076 Speaker 1: jeep is everything to all people. It's a war hero, 102 00:07:50,756 --> 00:07:55,276 Speaker 1: a beach bugget, an army mule, a cultural movement, a 103 00:07:55,316 --> 00:08:01,236 Speaker 1: Barbie accessory, a fraternity, a sorority, and now a muscle cover. 104 00:08:01,876 --> 00:08:05,156 Speaker 1: You know, the cool thing about this vehicle is that 105 00:08:05,476 --> 00:08:07,876 Speaker 1: it's like sort of like nothing else on the road. 106 00:08:07,956 --> 00:08:11,596 Speaker 1: You have this really short windshield, it's almost in your 107 00:08:11,596 --> 00:08:17,956 Speaker 1: face and totally upright. You have these really square peel 108 00:08:17,956 --> 00:08:22,356 Speaker 1: off doors, you have a peel off top. You're sitting 109 00:08:22,476 --> 00:08:25,396 Speaker 1: really high off the ground. You can see all four 110 00:08:25,476 --> 00:08:29,596 Speaker 1: corners of the vehicle. There's a high hit point. You're 111 00:08:29,596 --> 00:08:32,476 Speaker 1: sort of up in the air on this thing. And 112 00:08:32,756 --> 00:08:34,796 Speaker 1: in this day and age, very few vehicles have that 113 00:08:34,876 --> 00:08:38,196 Speaker 1: sense of uniqueness that there's really nothing else like it 114 00:08:38,356 --> 00:08:40,476 Speaker 1: on the road. And I think that's a great part 115 00:08:40,476 --> 00:08:46,276 Speaker 1: of its appeal. So how can something so out of 116 00:08:46,396 --> 00:08:51,436 Speaker 1: step with a modern automotive environment be so popular, so varied, 117 00:08:51,876 --> 00:08:55,036 Speaker 1: and so right for so many people. There really is 118 00:08:55,076 --> 00:09:00,036 Speaker 1: a jeep culture. Get a lot of conversations with strangers, 119 00:09:00,476 --> 00:09:02,956 Speaker 1: a lot of recognition, and a lot of love. People 120 00:09:04,356 --> 00:09:08,716 Speaker 1: people love talking about their jeeps. You know, I guess 121 00:09:08,756 --> 00:09:13,436 Speaker 1: you just fall for these machines and you appreciate people 122 00:09:13,436 --> 00:09:17,316 Speaker 1: who have also Jeep cells roughly as many Wranglers as 123 00:09:17,356 --> 00:09:21,676 Speaker 1: Honda sells accords. Unlike the Honda, though, the Jeep Wrangler 124 00:09:21,796 --> 00:09:25,636 Speaker 1: is an anachronism, a bulwark against the endless refinements of 125 00:09:25,676 --> 00:09:30,996 Speaker 1: the car industry with its fixations on noise, emissions, fuel economy, 126 00:09:31,316 --> 00:09:34,956 Speaker 1: and passenger comfort and safety. In a world where carmakers 127 00:09:34,956 --> 00:09:38,996 Speaker 1: are swearing off internal combustion engines for battery powered electric vehicles, 128 00:09:39,236 --> 00:09:43,636 Speaker 1: the Jeep says, screw that free trade, farmers market, NPR, tote, bag, 129 00:09:43,756 --> 00:09:46,236 Speaker 1: tote and crap. I've got a huge V eight under 130 00:09:46,276 --> 00:09:49,596 Speaker 1: the hood. I'm the proud owner of a Jeep CJ seven, 131 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:52,756 Speaker 1: which I think is a car that isn't particularly snobby 132 00:09:52,876 --> 00:09:59,036 Speaker 1: or inaccessible. It was something that I felt was part 133 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,796 Speaker 1: of a community in a way that you didn't even 134 00:10:01,836 --> 00:10:08,676 Speaker 1: really have to intentionally tap into. It just existed. This 135 00:10:08,756 --> 00:10:12,796 Speaker 1: sla sided mule designed for the Second World War, thumbs 136 00:10:12,796 --> 00:10:16,956 Speaker 1: its nose that sophisticated luxury electric SUVs with their limited 137 00:10:17,036 --> 00:10:21,476 Speaker 1: range and utility, and it out sells them by huge margins. 138 00:10:22,196 --> 00:10:25,916 Speaker 1: The Wrangler, that rectilinear shape your mind conjures when you 139 00:10:25,996 --> 00:10:30,356 Speaker 1: hear the word Jeep is a remarkably durable idea, even 140 00:10:30,396 --> 00:10:33,676 Speaker 1: in those eras when the vehicle itself wasn't all that durable. 141 00:10:34,396 --> 00:10:37,716 Speaker 1: The Jeep brand has persisted through more than seven decades 142 00:10:37,956 --> 00:10:42,596 Speaker 1: without losing its essence. Depending on who's counting, Jeep has 143 00:10:42,596 --> 00:10:47,116 Speaker 1: survived nine corporate custodians and emerged stronger for it. Like 144 00:10:47,196 --> 00:10:50,996 Speaker 1: an organism that consumes its host, Its sales have steadily 145 00:10:50,996 --> 00:10:54,276 Speaker 1: increased to roughly two hundred thousand vehicles a year, and 146 00:10:54,396 --> 00:10:57,636 Speaker 1: it has spawned an entire range of vehicles with names 147 00:10:57,636 --> 00:11:03,796 Speaker 1: like Gladiator, Patriot, Liberty. This year, a new Grand Wagon 148 00:11:03,956 --> 00:11:08,356 Speaker 1: ar Mega Suv emerged, broad of beam and festooned with chrome. 149 00:11:09,476 --> 00:11:12,996 Speaker 1: It's sticker price can easily top one hundred thousand dollars. 150 00:11:14,556 --> 00:11:17,596 Speaker 1: Think about that. We are at a point now where 151 00:11:17,676 --> 00:11:22,276 Speaker 1: Jeeps command Mercedes Benz money. There's really no better brand 152 00:11:22,316 --> 00:11:26,876 Speaker 1: than the automotive realm, except perhaps Ferrari. Jeep is to 153 00:11:26,916 --> 00:11:30,916 Speaker 1: the suv as kleenex is to facial tissue, as coke 154 00:11:31,196 --> 00:11:35,156 Speaker 1: is Takola. As I discussed with my producer Sam, Jeep 155 00:11:35,276 --> 00:11:41,116 Speaker 1: is the eponym. It's the icon. When I was a kid, 156 00:11:41,876 --> 00:11:46,236 Speaker 1: I wanted an orange, cheap wrangler more than anything, because 157 00:11:46,236 --> 00:11:47,876 Speaker 1: I thought it would be so cool to pull into 158 00:11:47,916 --> 00:11:51,236 Speaker 1: the parking lot in high school in an orange jeep Wrangler. 159 00:11:51,556 --> 00:11:54,596 Speaker 1: You're not alone. And I had this whole image of 160 00:11:54,636 --> 00:11:57,476 Speaker 1: myself like taking my friends to the beach on the 161 00:11:57,516 --> 00:12:01,516 Speaker 1: weekend in it. Even though I was not like a 162 00:12:01,556 --> 00:12:04,356 Speaker 1: beach on the weekend type of kid. I was a 163 00:12:04,436 --> 00:12:07,316 Speaker 1: like indie movie theater on the weekend type of kid. 164 00:12:07,996 --> 00:12:12,356 Speaker 1: But just there was something about the Wrangler that signified 165 00:12:12,876 --> 00:12:17,236 Speaker 1: like ease and freedom to me. This is the freedom machine, right, 166 00:12:17,476 --> 00:12:20,756 Speaker 1: you know. Enzo Ferrari called it America's only sports car, 167 00:12:21,196 --> 00:12:24,316 Speaker 1: and and he meant that in the pejorative, but it 168 00:12:24,396 --> 00:12:28,876 Speaker 1: really is built for a different kind of fun, and 169 00:12:28,996 --> 00:12:31,956 Speaker 1: it's built to go anywhere and do anything. It's very 170 00:12:31,996 --> 00:12:36,316 Speaker 1: anachronistic and it's highly desirable. I mean, it's, you know, 171 00:12:36,356 --> 00:12:39,356 Speaker 1: that toy like quality of it. And also I think 172 00:12:39,436 --> 00:12:42,876 Speaker 1: the sense that you're kind of playing army guy has 173 00:12:42,916 --> 00:12:45,276 Speaker 1: a ton of appeal. Yeah, you know, I wouldn't have 174 00:12:45,276 --> 00:12:47,756 Speaker 1: thought of that, but I think that was somewhere at 175 00:12:47,756 --> 00:12:52,156 Speaker 1: the center of probably my misplaced desire for one of 176 00:12:52,156 --> 00:12:54,796 Speaker 1: these when I was in high school, was it was 177 00:12:54,836 --> 00:12:57,436 Speaker 1: a way of seeming like a cool beach guy. But 178 00:12:57,516 --> 00:13:00,916 Speaker 1: I'm also kind of a soldier, you know, right, Like 179 00:13:01,316 --> 00:13:07,716 Speaker 1: why do young kids play with army men? Gives them 180 00:13:07,756 --> 00:13:10,716 Speaker 1: that sense of power like they're in command, they're in control, 181 00:13:11,316 --> 00:13:14,156 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of that wrapt up in this vehicle. 182 00:13:17,916 --> 00:13:20,436 Speaker 1: A Jeep Wrangler is meant to be in the mud, 183 00:13:21,036 --> 00:13:25,796 Speaker 1: off the highway, climbing steep slick grades with its axles locked. 184 00:13:26,956 --> 00:13:31,436 Speaker 1: Almost nobody does this. Only about ten to fifteen percent 185 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:35,276 Speaker 1: of Jeep Wrangler owners ever venture off the pavement. To 186 00:13:35,436 --> 00:13:39,596 Speaker 1: most of them, off road means parking lot. Most of 187 00:13:39,596 --> 00:13:42,956 Speaker 1: its drivers will never use a fraction of the jeep's capabilities. 188 00:13:44,316 --> 00:13:47,196 Speaker 1: Where it shines is off the beaten path, where it's 189 00:13:47,236 --> 00:13:53,036 Speaker 1: knobby tires and upright aerodynamically inefficient bodywork are virtues, not vices. 190 00:13:53,996 --> 00:13:56,716 Speaker 1: It is to the freeway as a pork sandwich is 191 00:13:56,756 --> 00:14:01,756 Speaker 1: to the passover sader. In some respects. It's that off 192 00:14:01,836 --> 00:14:06,356 Speaker 1: road capability that makes the Wrangler so alluring. It's also 193 00:14:06,396 --> 00:14:09,636 Speaker 1: the essence of the entire Jeep brand and what allows 194 00:14:09,676 --> 00:14:12,476 Speaker 1: it to charge eighty thousand dollars for this one and 195 00:14:12,556 --> 00:14:15,516 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand for a family holler like the grand 196 00:14:15,556 --> 00:14:19,876 Speaker 1: Wagon ear. The off rounning prowess gives the brand meaning 197 00:14:20,596 --> 00:14:24,676 Speaker 1: you're buying competence, most of which you'll never use. Car 198 00:14:24,756 --> 00:14:28,436 Speaker 1: marketers have a phrase for this concept of unused capacity. 199 00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:32,356 Speaker 1: It's called perceived performance. It's why people want the track 200 00:14:32,396 --> 00:14:35,596 Speaker 1: ready portion of nine to eleven GT three rs, even 201 00:14:35,636 --> 00:14:38,916 Speaker 1: though they'll never take their car to the racetrack. Just 202 00:14:39,116 --> 00:14:41,796 Speaker 1: knowing that the car can do all this heroic stuff 203 00:14:41,916 --> 00:14:45,236 Speaker 1: is good enough and worth paying a premium for. It 204 00:14:45,356 --> 00:14:47,876 Speaker 1: drives unlike any other car you will ever drive in 205 00:14:47,876 --> 00:14:50,636 Speaker 1: your life. In retrospect, it is super impractical. I mean 206 00:14:50,636 --> 00:14:52,756 Speaker 1: like it now as a father of three, I look back. 207 00:14:53,876 --> 00:14:59,076 Speaker 1: It's insane. Like the seatbelt situation was insane. I guess 208 00:14:59,116 --> 00:15:02,196 Speaker 1: it was safe in that, like it had a roll bar, 209 00:15:02,396 --> 00:15:05,756 Speaker 1: like if we rolled over, there was a bar, But 210 00:15:06,356 --> 00:15:09,836 Speaker 1: my dad drove that thing like crazy, and then I 211 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:16,756 Speaker 1: also sort of subsequently driveled like crazy. This Wrangler we're driving, 212 00:15:16,836 --> 00:15:21,316 Speaker 1: the three ninety two is also a ridiculous and great 213 00:15:21,676 --> 00:15:26,116 Speaker 1: muscle car, probably closer to the chaotic, undrivability and lunacy 214 00:15:26,396 --> 00:15:30,556 Speaker 1: of the original muscle cars than today's Dodge Chargers and Challengers. 215 00:15:31,076 --> 00:15:33,956 Speaker 1: The Wrangler is the centerpiece of the only car brand 216 00:15:34,196 --> 00:15:38,956 Speaker 1: that truly cuts across all market segments and socioeconomic strata. 217 00:15:39,396 --> 00:15:44,556 Speaker 1: Everyone wants a Jeep. The Jeep's abstract power lies in 218 00:15:44,676 --> 00:15:48,316 Speaker 1: its authentic ties to its military roots. It needs to 219 00:15:48,356 --> 00:15:52,916 Speaker 1: feel different than a Chevy Equinox or Toyota Highlander because 220 00:15:52,956 --> 00:15:55,956 Speaker 1: it is different. It strikes me as you're describing that 221 00:15:55,956 --> 00:15:59,836 Speaker 1: that there's probably a lot of other SUVs in this 222 00:15:59,996 --> 00:16:03,916 Speaker 1: class where the interior is trying to make you think, 223 00:16:04,716 --> 00:16:09,036 Speaker 1: you know, that you're in a luxury sedan even though 224 00:16:09,796 --> 00:16:14,756 Speaker 1: you're actually driving a four wheel drive machine, whereas this 225 00:16:14,836 --> 00:16:17,756 Speaker 1: car is going to great lengths to remind you like, no, no, 226 00:16:17,796 --> 00:16:20,516 Speaker 1: it's still a Jeap. It's definitely a Jeap, that's right, exactly. 227 00:16:20,556 --> 00:16:23,476 Speaker 1: And I think that people want that authentic experience to 228 00:16:23,516 --> 00:16:25,636 Speaker 1: the extent that, you know, there is this sort of 229 00:16:26,076 --> 00:16:32,316 Speaker 1: counter movement in SUVs right now toward more authentic, more 230 00:16:32,516 --> 00:16:37,356 Speaker 1: legitimate off roady sorts of vehicles like the Bronco, like 231 00:16:37,556 --> 00:16:41,156 Speaker 1: the land Rover Defender that's just been been relaunched, you know, 232 00:16:41,196 --> 00:16:46,556 Speaker 1: And there's this movement away from SUVs as family cars, 233 00:16:46,556 --> 00:16:52,676 Speaker 1: back toward a more kind of rugged sensibility. But what's 234 00:16:52,716 --> 00:16:57,276 Speaker 1: happened over time is because people have so loved some 235 00:16:57,356 --> 00:17:00,476 Speaker 1: of the attributes of the suv, like the high seating position, 236 00:17:00,836 --> 00:17:05,396 Speaker 1: the ability to really get anything in the back, that 237 00:17:05,756 --> 00:17:10,876 Speaker 1: they become so popular and have made so many concessions 238 00:17:10,876 --> 00:17:13,716 Speaker 1: to comfort that people sort of think of them as 239 00:17:13,756 --> 00:17:17,596 Speaker 1: family cars now or minivan sur rogans. It's tempting for 240 00:17:17,716 --> 00:17:21,556 Speaker 1: me hearing you talk about the authenticity piece of the 241 00:17:21,876 --> 00:17:25,716 Speaker 1: off roading roots of this car to also make a 242 00:17:25,756 --> 00:17:33,116 Speaker 1: connection between the fact that we as humans are spending 243 00:17:33,196 --> 00:17:36,356 Speaker 1: less and less time in the real world and separating 244 00:17:36,396 --> 00:17:42,596 Speaker 1: ourselves from the metaphorical bumps in the road more than ever. Yeah, man, Sam, 245 00:17:42,636 --> 00:17:45,876 Speaker 1: It's like peboard craving experiences, and this car is an 246 00:17:45,916 --> 00:17:54,396 Speaker 1: experience self contained. Deep down, the Jeep needs to feel 247 00:17:54,436 --> 00:17:58,716 Speaker 1: like an unrefined war machine. The brand's imagery is powered 248 00:17:58,716 --> 00:18:02,596 Speaker 1: by that authenticity, that sense that it can dominate any terrain, 249 00:18:03,116 --> 00:18:06,076 Speaker 1: that it is purpose built for its mission, that it 250 00:18:06,116 --> 00:18:08,396 Speaker 1: could charge into battle when the bad guys show up 251 00:18:08,556 --> 00:18:12,636 Speaker 1: with the case nukes. It's a hero, and to drive 252 00:18:12,716 --> 00:18:17,636 Speaker 1: one is to assume that role. After the break, we're 253 00:18:17,676 --> 00:18:37,156 Speaker 1: going to war. America prefers all America orders its pattern 254 00:18:37,236 --> 00:18:40,996 Speaker 1: of life work to meet the demand for protection industry 255 00:18:41,076 --> 00:18:43,516 Speaker 1: is a double step to supply the sinews of safety. 256 00:18:43,836 --> 00:18:46,356 Speaker 1: Before it donned at Civis and one on sale as 257 00:18:46,396 --> 00:18:50,236 Speaker 1: a passenger vehicle, the jeep was pivotal to American success 258 00:18:50,356 --> 00:18:53,676 Speaker 1: in the Second World War, and for all the influence 259 00:18:53,676 --> 00:18:56,716 Speaker 1: and reach of this brand now, the peculiar thing is 260 00:18:56,836 --> 00:19:00,476 Speaker 1: at its inception cheap wasn't even a brand per se. 261 00:19:01,516 --> 00:19:05,156 Speaker 1: It was a type of vehicle, a general purpose GP 262 00:19:05,956 --> 00:19:10,716 Speaker 1: light truck to supply the troops, made by various manufacturers. 263 00:19:12,036 --> 00:19:14,956 Speaker 1: America's basque resources are harnessed to the job of being 264 00:19:14,996 --> 00:19:18,916 Speaker 1: the world arsenal or this and other democracies. Its present 265 00:19:18,996 --> 00:19:21,316 Speaker 1: day production of armaments is but a mere fraction of 266 00:19:21,356 --> 00:19:27,116 Speaker 1: the great job, but live ahead. In preparation for entering 267 00:19:27,156 --> 00:19:30,476 Speaker 1: the conflict, Washington knew that this war would be one 268 00:19:30,476 --> 00:19:34,556 Speaker 1: of mechanized combat, and that it needed a mechanical replacement 269 00:19:34,916 --> 00:19:40,396 Speaker 1: for World War One's army mules, yes, actual mules. The 270 00:19:40,556 --> 00:19:43,956 Speaker 1: army needed something that could go anywhere, carrying men and 271 00:19:43,996 --> 00:19:47,716 Speaker 1: weapons on and off the battlefield, something that didn't run 272 00:19:47,756 --> 00:19:51,716 Speaker 1: on oats. Based on much failed testing of other white 273 00:19:51,796 --> 00:19:55,556 Speaker 1: yet rugged concepts, including a stripped down forward model t 274 00:19:56,556 --> 00:20:04,196 Speaker 1: Army engineers settled on the basic specifications. It needed four 275 00:20:04,196 --> 00:20:07,596 Speaker 1: wheel drive in a certain minimum level of performance, with 276 00:20:07,716 --> 00:20:11,756 Speaker 1: loads of climbing and care capability. At one point, they 277 00:20:11,796 --> 00:20:15,276 Speaker 1: even specified four wheel steering so that a rear facing 278 00:20:15,356 --> 00:20:18,476 Speaker 1: driver with his own steering wheel could take control of 279 00:20:18,516 --> 00:20:21,476 Speaker 1: the vehicle and reverse out of danger in the event 280 00:20:21,516 --> 00:20:24,836 Speaker 1: of an ambush. The vehicle had to weigh no more 281 00:20:24,876 --> 00:20:28,396 Speaker 1: than thirteen hundred pounds but be capable of hauling six 282 00:20:28,556 --> 00:20:33,036 Speaker 1: hundred pounds, and the timeline was super tight, less than 283 00:20:33,076 --> 00:20:37,436 Speaker 1: three months to deliver a selection of working models. In 284 00:20:37,476 --> 00:20:44,036 Speaker 1: other words, the Army's expectations were totally unrealistic. It sent 285 00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:45,956 Speaker 1: the bid out to some one hundred and thirty five 286 00:20:45,956 --> 00:20:49,436 Speaker 1: manufacturers and was sure that this massive and literal call 287 00:20:49,516 --> 00:20:54,116 Speaker 1: to arms would be answered in force. Only two companies 288 00:20:54,156 --> 00:20:58,676 Speaker 1: submitted bids, American Bantam out of Butler, Pennsylvania and Willis 289 00:20:58,676 --> 00:21:03,596 Speaker 1: Overland out of Toledo, Ohio. Bantam won their preliminary contract, 290 00:21:03,836 --> 00:21:06,436 Speaker 1: but in the end it was the Willis design that prevailed. 291 00:21:07,796 --> 00:21:11,276 Speaker 1: Ford started making them too, and used the GP designation 292 00:21:11,436 --> 00:21:14,956 Speaker 1: for its version of the model. Some say that the 293 00:21:15,036 --> 00:21:18,316 Speaker 1: name jeep came not from a contraction of the GP initials, 294 00:21:18,796 --> 00:21:21,956 Speaker 1: but from a character in a comic strip. I couldn't 295 00:21:21,956 --> 00:21:25,716 Speaker 1: confirm that. It seems more interesting to entertain the notion 296 00:21:26,076 --> 00:21:30,076 Speaker 1: that the first jeep was actually a Ford. Anyway, America 297 00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:33,516 Speaker 1: got itself an innovative for the time light transport vehicle 298 00:21:33,796 --> 00:21:38,436 Speaker 1: that could do everything and go everywhere. The GP guided 299 00:21:38,476 --> 00:21:43,876 Speaker 1: into France during the invasion of Normandy June six d Day. 300 00:21:44,716 --> 00:21:49,956 Speaker 1: A great plan is put to the test. American soldiers 301 00:21:49,996 --> 00:21:54,596 Speaker 1: hit the beach, It slogged through the bulge, It plied 302 00:21:54,636 --> 00:21:59,516 Speaker 1: the North African sands. Because the fighting develops, every means 303 00:21:59,636 --> 00:22:01,836 Speaker 1: is used to hasten the removal of the wounded from 304 00:22:01,876 --> 00:22:05,636 Speaker 1: the scene of battle. The wearing farm plows, it dug 305 00:22:05,676 --> 00:22:09,716 Speaker 1: trenches for telephone lines. And that's to say nothing of 306 00:22:09,756 --> 00:22:13,236 Speaker 1: its workaday applications. And you were saying part of the 307 00:22:13,236 --> 00:22:18,476 Speaker 1: appeal of the traditional wrangler was the flat flatness of 308 00:22:18,516 --> 00:22:22,876 Speaker 1: the hood, right, Yeah, there are stories about the flatness 309 00:22:22,916 --> 00:22:25,196 Speaker 1: of the hood being a place where you know, all 310 00:22:25,236 --> 00:22:29,556 Speaker 1: sorts of work got done, lunches were eaten. It was 311 00:22:29,596 --> 00:22:34,596 Speaker 1: an altar for Chaplains to give mass on. That flatness 312 00:22:34,636 --> 00:22:37,956 Speaker 1: of the hood was sort of core to the original design. 313 00:22:38,676 --> 00:22:41,396 Speaker 1: The jeep of all trades is pressed into service and 314 00:22:41,476 --> 00:22:46,876 Speaker 1: proves itself again, Which brings us to an interesting point. 315 00:22:47,476 --> 00:22:50,196 Speaker 1: When we talk about the jeep being authentic and people 316 00:22:50,236 --> 00:22:55,596 Speaker 1: buying into that realness, what are we really talking about. Well, 317 00:22:55,636 --> 00:22:59,716 Speaker 1: on one level, the notion of authenticity arises from functionality. 318 00:23:00,116 --> 00:23:04,036 Speaker 1: The jeep reinforces that functionality and capability at every turn, 319 00:23:04,396 --> 00:23:08,436 Speaker 1: at every touch point. They are a little visual military 320 00:23:08,516 --> 00:23:12,556 Speaker 1: jeep east or eggs all over these vehicles, tiny graphics 321 00:23:12,556 --> 00:23:15,996 Speaker 1: of army jeeps crawling up the windshield glass and lights 322 00:23:15,996 --> 00:23:20,316 Speaker 1: in the dash that read since nineteen forty one. That 323 00:23:20,476 --> 00:23:24,996 Speaker 1: connection to its origin story is something that jeep carefully curates. 324 00:23:25,916 --> 00:23:28,916 Speaker 1: Think about Rolex watches. If you want one of the 325 00:23:28,956 --> 00:23:32,636 Speaker 1: more prized models, the Submarner or maybe the sky Dweller, 326 00:23:33,316 --> 00:23:36,356 Speaker 1: it's going to cost you ten, twenty, maybe even forty 327 00:23:36,396 --> 00:23:40,236 Speaker 1: thousand bucks. But people are tripping over themselves to pay 328 00:23:40,276 --> 00:23:42,996 Speaker 1: those prices, and the reason has less to do with 329 00:23:43,036 --> 00:23:45,036 Speaker 1: the beauty of the piece or the cost of the 330 00:23:45,116 --> 00:23:49,916 Speaker 1: materials than the story. The bottom line is that those 331 00:23:50,036 --> 00:23:52,996 Speaker 1: Rolexes were built to do jobs, and they did those 332 00:23:53,116 --> 00:23:57,796 Speaker 1: jobs either first or better than any other watch. They 333 00:23:57,796 --> 00:24:01,436 Speaker 1: are chunky and clunky, and they don't often keep great time. 334 00:24:02,196 --> 00:24:05,156 Speaker 1: They are not the elegant gold wrist watches that used 335 00:24:05,156 --> 00:24:09,796 Speaker 1: to define success. What they telegraph is the status of action, 336 00:24:10,436 --> 00:24:15,836 Speaker 1: of power, of mastery, and that functional authenticity is worth 337 00:24:15,876 --> 00:24:20,756 Speaker 1: a lot to people. So it is with Jeep. Yet 338 00:24:20,796 --> 00:24:23,756 Speaker 1: the Jeep has a deeper context than any time piece, 339 00:24:24,316 --> 00:24:27,676 Speaker 1: And here, finally is the real essence of the thing, 340 00:24:28,276 --> 00:24:32,116 Speaker 1: the ultimate core sample of its meaning. To Americans and 341 00:24:32,236 --> 00:24:35,676 Speaker 1: indeed other Western countries, where it's always been sold as 342 00:24:35,676 --> 00:24:43,276 Speaker 1: a luxury good. The Jeep represents a connection not just 343 00:24:43,356 --> 00:24:47,956 Speaker 1: to war, but to a specific war. The one embedded 344 00:24:47,996 --> 00:24:52,796 Speaker 1: in America's consciousness is our last good war, the last 345 00:24:52,836 --> 00:24:57,716 Speaker 1: war we could understand a clear cut conflict between right 346 00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:02,436 Speaker 1: and wrong, the last war where we were unambiguously the 347 00:25:02,516 --> 00:25:09,276 Speaker 1: victors and the heroes. The Jeep represents America's yearning for 348 00:25:09,316 --> 00:25:14,356 Speaker 1: the simplicity and moral clarity of World War two. Think 349 00:25:14,396 --> 00:25:20,796 Speaker 1: about those jeep naming conventions for a second Gladiator. Patriot 350 00:25:20,996 --> 00:25:25,516 Speaker 1: liberty cynics might argue that they are evidenced of some 351 00:25:25,596 --> 00:25:28,716 Speaker 1: wild shit about the American psyche, that we have a 352 00:25:28,756 --> 00:25:33,516 Speaker 1: warrior complex that we glorify theatrical, large scale conflicts and 353 00:25:33,556 --> 00:25:37,316 Speaker 1: the war machines used in them. That may be true, 354 00:25:37,556 --> 00:25:39,716 Speaker 1: but I think the impulses around the jeep are a 355 00:25:39,756 --> 00:25:43,556 Speaker 1: bit nobler than that. Through the jeep. We're trying to 356 00:25:43,596 --> 00:25:46,796 Speaker 1: get back to that brief moment of packs Americana that 357 00:25:46,956 --> 00:25:50,436 Speaker 1: existed in the immediate aftermath of the Second World War. 358 00:25:51,156 --> 00:25:54,476 Speaker 1: Everywhere since then has only made many Americans questioned the 359 00:25:54,556 --> 00:26:03,236 Speaker 1: justifications behind the conflicts Korea, Vietnam, Racks one and two, Afghanistan. 360 00:26:04,436 --> 00:26:09,036 Speaker 1: They were all opaque, distant and remote, with no clear cause. 361 00:26:09,116 --> 00:26:16,436 Speaker 1: As an effect, proxy wars, cold wars, allegedly ideological ones. 362 00:26:19,956 --> 00:26:22,796 Speaker 1: Only the attacks of nine to eleven presented a threat 363 00:26:22,836 --> 00:26:26,316 Speaker 1: equivalent to or exceeding that of Pearl Harbor, and in 364 00:26:26,356 --> 00:26:30,156 Speaker 1: that case we responded with an agenda and false claims 365 00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:39,076 Speaker 1: of WMD's in Iraq, there's a concept in the CIA 366 00:26:39,196 --> 00:26:43,876 Speaker 1: called blowback. It doesn't mean the unintended consequences of America's 367 00:26:43,876 --> 00:26:49,276 Speaker 1: military actions, but rather the unintended consequences of covert operations. 368 00:26:50,516 --> 00:26:56,636 Speaker 1: How fed up is that assassinations, regime changes, drone strikes 369 00:26:56,636 --> 00:27:01,036 Speaker 1: and sanctions that impel US ever deeper into inscrutable conflicts. 370 00:27:02,236 --> 00:27:05,236 Speaker 1: World War Two wasn't like that. It was the first 371 00:27:05,356 --> 00:27:10,076 Speaker 1: real buildup of American military might. It made a superpower. 372 00:27:10,516 --> 00:27:14,916 Speaker 1: The military industrial complex it spawned, and that President Eisenhower 373 00:27:14,996 --> 00:27:17,716 Speaker 1: warned us about in nineteen sixty one on his way 374 00:27:17,716 --> 00:27:22,676 Speaker 1: out of office, that was about enforcement. We now stand 375 00:27:22,756 --> 00:27:26,076 Speaker 1: ten years past the midpoint of a century that has 376 00:27:26,116 --> 00:27:30,476 Speaker 1: witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these 377 00:27:30,636 --> 00:27:36,036 Speaker 1: involved our own country. Despite these holocausts, a Maratha is 378 00:27:36,076 --> 00:27:41,436 Speaker 1: today the strongest, the most influential, and most productive nation 379 00:27:41,516 --> 00:27:46,356 Speaker 1: in the world. The Maratha's leadership and prestige depends not 380 00:27:46,556 --> 00:27:51,556 Speaker 1: merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches, and military strength, 381 00:27:52,196 --> 00:27:56,076 Speaker 1: but on how we use our power in the years 382 00:27:56,076 --> 00:28:01,396 Speaker 1: of world peace and human better World War Two built 383 00:28:01,396 --> 00:28:05,876 Speaker 1: our global position. Everything afterward attempted to maintain a profit 384 00:28:05,956 --> 00:28:09,876 Speaker 1: from it has messed up. As it sounds, the Second 385 00:28:09,916 --> 00:28:15,556 Speaker 1: World War was America's feel good war, uncomplicated and wholly embraced, 386 00:28:16,276 --> 00:28:20,796 Speaker 1: a moment of unvarnished glory for our country. Watch any 387 00:28:20,836 --> 00:28:24,556 Speaker 1: World War two documentary and you'll hear old veterans talked 388 00:28:24,676 --> 00:28:29,356 Speaker 1: proudly about how they killed Nazis at knife point fun stuff. 389 00:28:30,316 --> 00:28:33,276 Speaker 1: The jeep is our connection back to that moment. The 390 00:28:33,396 --> 00:28:35,476 Speaker 1: jeep isn't just a means of getting from point A 391 00:28:35,676 --> 00:28:38,996 Speaker 1: to point B. It is a mobile emblem of freedom 392 00:28:39,116 --> 00:28:42,916 Speaker 1: and independence. It's why Jeep has worked so hard to 393 00:28:42,996 --> 00:28:45,916 Speaker 1: keep the Ranger the way it has always been, and 394 00:28:45,996 --> 00:28:49,156 Speaker 1: it's why that basic jeep can fetch ever higher prices. 395 00:28:49,916 --> 00:28:52,996 Speaker 1: The feeling it gives us grows more valuable the further 396 00:28:53,076 --> 00:28:56,956 Speaker 1: it recedes. By way of contrast, look at the Hummer, 397 00:28:57,276 --> 00:29:00,236 Speaker 1: another military off rotor, but this one has no such 398 00:29:00,276 --> 00:29:03,956 Speaker 1: exalted provenance or staying power. It was not the mule 399 00:29:03,956 --> 00:29:07,716 Speaker 1: of World War Two, but of the Iraq Wars. General 400 00:29:07,756 --> 00:29:10,596 Speaker 1: Motors canceled it as a Sumer brand in twenty ten, 401 00:29:11,236 --> 00:29:13,836 Speaker 1: and it is only bringing it back now. But as 402 00:29:13,836 --> 00:29:17,636 Speaker 1: an electric pickup truck, it couldn't drive away fast enough 403 00:29:17,876 --> 00:29:22,516 Speaker 1: from all it represented. Once Schwartz Coough's war machine now 404 00:29:22,556 --> 00:29:30,916 Speaker 1: here to save the earth. The Jeep, however, always, always, 405 00:29:30,956 --> 00:29:34,276 Speaker 1: always refers back to the Second World War, from its 406 00:29:34,276 --> 00:29:38,196 Speaker 1: color palette with its olive drabs, to its graphics packages 407 00:29:38,596 --> 00:29:44,076 Speaker 1: with their stencils and stars. In the Jeep, everyone's a victor. 408 00:29:44,796 --> 00:29:47,716 Speaker 1: Everyone shares in the glory whether you take it to 409 00:29:47,756 --> 00:29:50,796 Speaker 1: the trails, the beach or the forest. One of the 410 00:29:50,836 --> 00:29:53,116 Speaker 1: great things about owning a jeep I might drive around 411 00:29:53,196 --> 00:29:55,996 Speaker 1: who brings me a huge amount of joy? In many ways, 412 00:29:55,996 --> 00:29:58,996 Speaker 1: it seems to bring enjoyment to almost everyone who sees it. 413 00:29:59,156 --> 00:30:01,196 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to talk to me, everyone wants to say hello. 414 00:30:01,236 --> 00:30:03,956 Speaker 1: And Wade kids, you know, no matter who they are 415 00:30:03,956 --> 00:30:05,956 Speaker 1: and no matter where they come from, always going to 416 00:30:06,036 --> 00:30:08,316 Speaker 1: toggling their mums or dad's hands to say that pleased 417 00:30:08,356 --> 00:30:10,676 Speaker 1: and we can found look that car team seems to 418 00:30:10,676 --> 00:30:13,756 Speaker 1: make everyone so happy. And you know, it's smelly, and 419 00:30:13,836 --> 00:30:17,116 Speaker 1: it's awkward, and it's not comfortable, and it's kind of dangerous, 420 00:30:17,436 --> 00:30:19,556 Speaker 1: but like it's the best thing to drive in the world. 421 00:30:21,516 --> 00:30:26,076 Speaker 1: Isn't that wild? Somehow everybody wants it cheap? Yeah, And 422 00:30:26,196 --> 00:30:31,356 Speaker 1: I think it's because it's so interlaced with the idea 423 00:30:31,436 --> 00:30:35,916 Speaker 1: of being American. It's so interlaced with that identity that 424 00:30:35,996 --> 00:30:39,116 Speaker 1: you'll pay any cost to be part of that story. 425 00:30:39,196 --> 00:30:44,276 Speaker 1: You'll put up with this crazy woollie highway driving behavior. 426 00:30:44,356 --> 00:30:47,276 Speaker 1: It almost enhances the experience. You'll put up with an 427 00:30:47,316 --> 00:30:49,956 Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars price tag to get it. You just 428 00:30:50,036 --> 00:30:52,156 Speaker 1: want to be part of it, and it doesn't matter 429 00:30:52,236 --> 00:30:55,196 Speaker 1: who you are. And this is one of those threads 430 00:30:55,196 --> 00:30:58,316 Speaker 1: in the American fabric. This is one of those things 431 00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:02,476 Speaker 1: that make that ties us together. This vehicle, this thing 432 00:31:02,956 --> 00:31:09,796 Speaker 1: like feeds off our conception of ourselves as rugged in individualists, 433 00:31:09,956 --> 00:31:14,076 Speaker 1: go anywhere withstand any kind of torture, do anything, and 434 00:31:14,156 --> 00:31:17,556 Speaker 1: yet have fun, be having fun the whole time. Like 435 00:31:17,596 --> 00:31:25,916 Speaker 1: With's smile out a phrase authenticity, freedom, the pursuit of happiness. 436 00:31:26,716 --> 00:31:30,156 Speaker 1: This is America on four wheels with an optional canvas 437 00:31:30,196 --> 00:31:51,956 Speaker 1: top car. Show is written and hosted by me Eddie Alterman. 438 00:31:52,636 --> 00:31:56,636 Speaker 1: It's produced by Sam Dingman, Jacob Smith, and Amy Gaines. 439 00:31:57,636 --> 00:32:02,076 Speaker 1: Our editor is Jen Guera. Original music and mastering by 440 00:32:02,116 --> 00:32:07,396 Speaker 1: Ben Tomiday. Our executive producer is Mia lo Bell. Our 441 00:32:07,436 --> 00:32:10,516 Speaker 1: show art was designed by Sean Ernie and airbrushed by 442 00:32:10,516 --> 00:32:15,596 Speaker 1: Greg Lafeever. Our patron saints are Leetam Malad and Justine Lange. 443 00:32:16,236 --> 00:32:19,756 Speaker 1: Sources for this episode included the Story of Jeep by 444 00:32:19,796 --> 00:32:23,676 Speaker 1: Patrick R. Foster and the Jeep Owner's Bible by Moses 445 00:32:23,756 --> 00:32:28,036 Speaker 1: lou Dell. 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