1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every night on the 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Thursday, Thursday. Right, yeah, yeah, that's 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: three out of four days this week. Now I've started 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: by getting the day right. Dam I'm hot man. You 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: didn't fumble over the high and welcome in good. Have 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: and wondered as this as good as it gets. It's 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: not switched to life changing wet extra large flushable dude 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: wipes because wetter just Clean's better available at Amazon, n 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: and major retailers nationwide. Dudewipes let clean pants down. So 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: another day and now the number of people who have 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: made public their lack of voting for Bill Belichick for 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame has doubled. DJ First, we had 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Vahi Gregorian chancing that he could say why he didn't 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: vote for Belichick. And now we have Indianapolis voter Mike 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: Chapel roaning around telling us it's hard, club, it's hard 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: to get Chapel roon had hard though. 25 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard. Yeah. 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Look, the story that I really this is the best 27 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: part about sports is that I sometimes I'm just surprised 28 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: at the amount of run a story gets, especially in 29 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: a week where the Super Bowl is coming up and 30 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: we have all kinds of crazy drama involving teams looking 31 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: for head coaches now looking for quarterbacks, that the Belichick 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: not getting in the Hall of Fame has just become 33 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: this stunning now four day odyssey of the wrongs that 34 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: were done to Belichick about not getting in the Hall 35 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: of Fame. And you know, and now Mike Chappell, who 36 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: covers the NFL Indianapolis done it for a long time, 37 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: made public today his reason for not voting for Bill Belichick. 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Right now, we had Grigoryan yesterday saying, hey, I voted 39 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: for the players because of the way the vote is 40 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: set up. I had the five players in the senior category, 41 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: and they put Belichick in Craft in the same category. 42 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: I thought the players should get in thought L. C. 43 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Greenwood should get in. I thought Kenny Anderson should get in. 44 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, I thought Roger Craig should get in. 45 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: So, Okay, you can. 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: Disagree with it saying they've been on the ballot or 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: had been under consideration right the part of thirty years. 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, and that's why the Chapel stuff today is 49 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: a really big piece of evidence because now you know 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: exactly who the villain is in this story. Right after 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: we talk about Mike Chapel his reasons for voting not 52 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: voting for Belichick, you now know who the villain is. Okay, 53 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: you know who the villain is. So Mike Chapel did 54 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: a big saying, hey, I'm one of the Belichick eleven 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: right or thirteen whatever it is it didn't vote for. 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: Well, but that's saying, don't we don't know exactly how. 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Many, but I'd like to know the number just so 58 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: they can make money on it. 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: You know, Belichick eleven. 60 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, with all the pictures of their faces 61 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: on there, the Belichick green printin shirts. Immediate Yeah forget 62 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: like like you do like Oceans eleven, except you put 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: the faces of those people on it. 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Well, or even if we just know the number. 65 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: They can be shadow people around the table with their 66 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: thumbs down like their commonis and Gladiator. 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, it don't works. 68 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Sorkin could write the movie of the Belichick eleven 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of walking talks and Josh Lyman 70 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: is playing you know, and Bradley Whiffredy was Josh Lymon 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: and Westbig is playing a bunch of ca So I 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: mean you could do something right, yeah, showing like an 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:10,279 Speaker 1: incomplete like no go, you know, all these different. 74 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Things to say no chance. 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: So it's great when you can identify the villain because 76 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: because so many people just seem to be upset at 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: everything that Belichick's not getting in right. But now after 78 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: this with Mike Chapel, you can easily see who the 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: villain is. He wrote a big reasoning for voting for 80 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: Bob Craft and not voting for Bill Belichick. He voted 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: for Bob Craft because he thought and he reasoned out 82 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: Bob Craft's role in growing the NFL and what he 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: did was a bigger thing, and he wanted to put 84 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: Bob Craft in right, and Bob Craft went in. Now, 85 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: remember there's a very complex voting pattern which I think 86 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: when you get two paragraphs into seeing it explained, you 87 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: just tune out, going Okay, I I really you lost 88 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: me there in the side. Well, when you vote, there's 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: three voters, and you can you rank your voting, and 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: it's just so incredibly complicated that number one. That should 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: be a sign for the NFL that they need to 92 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: they need to fix that. But just so, it's a 93 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: very complicated voting pattern, and you can't vote for everybody. 94 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: To your point about Ocean's eleven, you either in or out? Right, Now, 95 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: can we put in another guy? Can we put in 96 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: another guy? I think we need another guy, one more, 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: one more. All right, we'll put in one more. So 98 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: he says that I voted for Craft because he wanted 99 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: to put Craft in, and then also talked about how 100 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: Spygate was a thing for him, and you know, mentioned 101 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: to flate Gate a little. 102 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: Bit, but Spygate was a big deal. 103 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: And he still said at the end, I don't think 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: that Belichick is going to be kept out. He'll probably 105 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: get in next year. And that was his reasoning for 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: how he voted the way he did. Now, he didn't 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: say if he's going to vote for Belichick again next year, 108 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: but he did say I think Belichick's going to get 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: in next year. So now that he says this, okay, 110 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: now we've had two people say why, and they've covered 111 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: the reasons. So now we can really look at the 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: villains of why Belichick if you think Belichick was wrong 113 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: by not getting in, and just like a just like 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: an Agatha Christy movie, there's a lot of blame to 115 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: go around. The most blame and the biggest villain is 116 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: the process. Okay, because you can't simply vote for the 117 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: players you think that we'll get in, and are they 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: getting enough votes? Because unlike Major League Baseball, where here's 119 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: your ballot and you mark the players and you count 120 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: the votes, you have to get certain number of votes 121 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: and you vote in people, it's a little bit easier. Well, 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 1: and they're players, they're all players. It's a little bit easier. 123 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: The NFL has an incredibly complex vote. And again read 124 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: about if you want to just search online how does 125 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: the voting go for the Pro Football Hall of Fame 126 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: and try to follow it. After two paragraphs, you're gonna go, okay, 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand. 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: Just know that you can't vote for everybody. You have 129 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: to vote for people. 130 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: You could have five people that you think are incredibly 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: valuable and should be Hall of famers, can't vote for all. 132 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: But that's the thing, right, is that three of them 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: are players, one's a contributor, and one's a coach. 134 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Yet you're supposed to rate them against him. Why are 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: in the same category again, Like that makes no sense. 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: Like if you tell me I've got I've got five players, 137 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: and I got to pick three. 138 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: Of those, you know what? 139 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: They're all players, yeah, and then I debate their impact 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: versus Hey, Robert Kraft's responsible for this becoming a thirty 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: billion dollar a year business. 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of more important than the rest of 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 2: these guys. 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: Right, So understand that the majority of what's to blame 145 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: is the process. 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: Because we have now heard three people and you one. 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Because if you listen to the show, you heard from 148 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: Jason Cole pro Football Hall of Fame voter who joins 149 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: us every week, and he made sure the first thing 150 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: he told us was here, let me just explain the 151 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: process to you. And again when he's explaining it, after 152 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: like twenty seconds, like my eyes started to glaze, like, Okay, 153 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: I guess, like that's just how it goes right, it's 154 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: when a process is that bad, Okay, let let's make 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: let let's make sure that that's what streamline. Then you 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: had Gregory and yesterday say the same thing, the process. 157 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't vote for everybody. I wanted to put the 158 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: players in the Hall of Fame first, I know Belichick's 159 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna get in at some point. And then you had 160 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: the same thing today with with Chapel saying, hey, I 161 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: voted for Bobcraft. I wanted to make sure he got in. 162 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: And then on the second side, the second part was okay, 163 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: spygate was a big deal for me. Now of the voters, 164 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: what we know so far right of the voters. 165 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: It will come out. 166 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Any voter who has talked about the process, and this 167 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: is people that voted for Bill Belichick, they have all 168 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: brought up one of the first things they want to 169 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: tell you is, let me explain the process to you. 170 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: So the number one villain is the process. Right, If 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: you're mad at anything that Belichick doesn't get in, get 172 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: mad at the process because probably would have had enough 173 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: votes around it. If you had a guy like Gregorian yesterday, who, 174 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: if he had enough votes, would have voted for Belichick. 175 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: I want if he could seem like if I could 176 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: have voted for the players and Belichick, I would have 177 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: voted for but I couldn't do it because for some reason, stupidly, 178 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: they're all together. So the number one thing, And if 179 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you want to talk about fixing a problem, if you 180 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: think there's a problem, is that, Okay, let's just address 181 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: this part of it. Why is the voting so complex? 182 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: Why is it limited the way it does? Why do 183 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: you put people in certain categories the way? Why do 184 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: you make that so difficult when the whole process is 185 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: fifty people in a room and it's a debate, like 186 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: it's a jury room, you know, like all right, we're 187 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: gonna take this to the jury. So number one, that's 188 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. And if you want to fix the problem, 189 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: fix the voting process. So you can be mad at 190 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: people for not voting, but fix the process. Yeah, and 191 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I think it becomes a very good thing that it happens, 192 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: because it won't happen again because it's an obvious one. 193 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: This is not a well maybe maybe not. 194 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: The idea of yeah, he'll get in next year, to 195 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 3: me is the worst reasoning of it all, Like the 196 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: is he a hall of fame or is he not? Yeah, 197 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: because if you're gonna tell me, out of eleven, thirteen, 198 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: twenty seven, how already people did vote for him, because 199 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 3: that's the fun part of it as well. 200 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: No, I voted for him. Like all the anonymous polling 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: is is. 202 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: That we still don't know Bill Pollyan's percentage of vou 203 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: means if he voted him because he read a statement 204 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: as if he were under bright lights. Simple witch was 205 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: coming after him yesterday. Why they verified him, Like, I know, 206 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't believe you I voted for him. I am 207 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: ninety five percent sure that I voted for him. Ninety 208 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: five I am. You know what, who can remember? It 209 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: was so long ago. 210 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 211 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: I think I voted for when you went an extra 212 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: extra step and tried to claim that he went to 213 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame and said, hey, verify my vote, 214 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: which again I think now he does protest a bit 215 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: too much, but neither you know there at this point, 216 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: it's a an indictment on how this comes to pass 217 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: when you've got some of the most staunch rivals and 218 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: heated you know, folks that wanted to tear him apart 219 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: and went after the Patriots that immediately just go yeah, 220 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? I mean acknowledge it, 221 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: but say, yeah, how do you keep him out of 222 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? The other thing, the other thing 223 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: to be mad at, right, if you want to talk 224 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: about the blame, right, this is a hot take the 225 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: other So the process number one, that would that's seventy 226 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: percent of the other thirty percent you'll be mad at, 227 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: be mad at yourself because clearly, when you see the 228 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: voters and you hear them talk about things, it's generally 229 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: not a big deal to them. If a guy gets 230 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: in the first time, or the guy gets in the 231 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: next year, you're still a Hall of fame, right, That's 232 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: the whole thing. 233 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. 234 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: If you get in the first aig, you're still a 235 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: Hall of fame. They don't say that about you still 236 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: a Hall of famer. Clearly they don't really put much 237 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: stock into They want to try to get all the 238 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: right people into the Hall of Fame. 239 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: Right. 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: So so when you step back for a second and 241 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: see all the voters, that go okay. Because Jason Cole, 242 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: who joined us, talks about how he's already looking at 243 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: guys like Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. When are they 244 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: going to get in when they need the cycle to 245 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: come in. Yeah, they're looking at how do we do 246 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: this in the next few years. How do we make 247 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: sure all the best players get in in the next 248 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: few years so they don't really I mean, yeah, you 249 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: would think that a guy like Belichick would get it 250 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: in on the first ballot. You'd like to think that, 251 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: but when you make the situation the way it is, 252 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: they have to get a little creative with their votes. Okay, 253 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: I want to make sure Roger Craig gets and this 254 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: is his last chance. Belichick can get in next year. 255 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: Be mad at yourself if you're med how is not 256 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer. Okay, he's going to 257 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: get in. He's going don't worry about Bill Belichick will 258 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer probably next year. 259 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: He's going to get in. 260 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: But be mad at yourself because the people that actually 261 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: have the responsibility of voting for the Hall of Fame 262 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: are thinking a bigger picture. It's not just one year. 263 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: Every year we vote for the best people and that's it, right. 264 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: If that was what it was, that's a different story. 265 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: But it's okay, who's this year Who does that leave 266 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: for next year? What does that leave for the veteran? 267 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Who do we need to group together? How do I 268 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: vote here? It's a complex procedure. It's not just where 269 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: these guys just hang it on the beach with three 270 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four days and then show up one day. 271 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to argue for forty five minutes. We're gonna 272 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: have lunch, and that's done. 273 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: No igree, I agree to it to a point, right, 274 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: And like here, I've got my giant wall and I'm 275 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: putting my grid together of the next five years of 276 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: my voting patterns based on first years of eligibility and 277 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 3: everything else. And obviously the change with coaches was last 278 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: year when they changed the bylaws and made it so 279 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 3: you only had to sit out a year, So that 280 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: that changes the math a little bit. So you could 281 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: argue to some degree, it's unfair to the Shanahan's home 282 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: grins and other coaches of Tom Coughlin and his red 283 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: face waiting tip for their chance at the DAIS. So 284 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: I get it, you know, And you now have this 285 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: inane thing of five people, one contributor, one coach, three players, 286 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: But you're also still I think the charge is to 287 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: get the best people in and what I always fear, 288 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 3: and look, I'm not wishing ill on anybody, clearly. I 289 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: just watched Steve McMichael be inducted when he was on 290 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: a hospital bed in his final days. His numbers didn't 291 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: change over thirty years. His impact on the game didn't 292 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: change in thirty years. It's a thing I argued and 293 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: stumped for for years. Yes, partially the Bears bias. The 294 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: other is you're watching guys waltz in year after year. 295 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: You know the human side of it, the mortality. And 296 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson was arguing that with the coaches out of 297 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: it to a degree, which is why he was happy 298 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: it went to the one year. But life, life comes 299 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: at you fast, man. So whenever you say that, yeah, 300 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: we'll get around to that guy, I think that's some 301 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: bad reasoning, right. 302 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: And like I said, it's that and that's why that's 303 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 2: the faulty. The fault. 304 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: The main villain is the process. Second thing, understand that 305 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: because of that, this is what happens. This is what happens, Larry, 306 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: this is what happens. So there's your blame. You want, 307 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: you want who your villains are. There's your villains for 308 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Look, can we get some more? Look inward, Oh, 309 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: we'll get more villainshop. Yeah, we need a whole cavalcade 310 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: of stars. Exit out bout a Fresca exit Swallen Dome. 311 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. Have you ever wiped with a 312 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: piece of dry toilet paper and wondered? 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Now. 358 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: How sites like Yahoo and search engines when you scroll 359 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: through stories and you get the story that just says 360 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Jets predicted to sign two hundred million dollar quarterback in 361 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: off season and you know it's it's it's Kirk Cousins, 362 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, stoiler Dodgers projected to trade for 363 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollar former three time All star, right, like, oh, it's. 364 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 3: Insane, but they know what the algorithm is. They get 365 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 3: you to glick. What famous Starlin was this guy seeing it? 366 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: They'd been married for twenty seven years. But yeah, sure. 367 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: So multiple reports today the Athletics saying that the Falcons 368 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: will release Kirk Cousins in early March after they restructure 369 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: his contract. Gonna be owed sixty eight million dollars. He's 370 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: on the roster of March thirteenth, So by March thirteenth, 371 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. Yeah, So if you need a 372 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: quarterback this offseason, Kirk Cousins will. 373 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: Be available for you. 374 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: Just got to wait another month and a half and 375 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: you can get Captain Kirk. 376 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: He can be yours. He can finally come to the Jets. 377 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: Well here's the thing, after all these years, he could 378 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: finally make it way there. 379 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 6: All right. 380 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'll tell the guy you know, 381 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: to beat it, because all you did was use the 382 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: Jets four years ago for leverage. 383 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: So screw that. 384 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this guy's already he's still playing. He's 385 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: already in the Hall of Fame. Football business done. I'm 386 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: done with you. But honestly, I'm kind. 387 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm just man on Kirk Cousins, like that ship is sailed, 388 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: all right, Like, yeah, you were okay. He was okay 389 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: enough when he stepped in last year for Michael Pennick junior, 390 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: and he was just okay. This is not Kirk Cousins 391 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: middle of his run with Minnesota. This is Kirk Cousins 392 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: in his late thirties where I don't want to get stuck. 393 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: And this is why, Because I'll tell you the two 394 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: guys to go get this offseason, and I'm gonna give 395 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: you even a hot take on the two guys i'd 396 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: go get, right, is that you go get Kirk Cousins. 397 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: Is he gonna show up and be great? Or is 398 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: he gonna show up and be somewhat serviceable to I 399 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: don't know right right now, I'm thirty seven. He turns 400 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight before the season will kick go no way? 401 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: How old is Kirk Cousins? Thirty seven in a row? Yeah? 402 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: Okay, now go no good? Yeah he's gonna be thirty 403 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: eight artists. So you go get Kirk Cousins. And what 404 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: are you gonna do if he has a year? You're 405 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: gonna be the Steelers. Where are the Steelers right now? Well, 406 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: they had no succession plan, they had nothing going on. 407 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: So where are they now? Mike McCarthy shows up and says, yeah, 408 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: I'd love Aaron. 409 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: Rodgers to come back. And how are you on Aaron 410 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: Rodgers coming back? 411 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: If you're the Steelers, you're eh n, you're stuck. Well, 412 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: but your hell got him. You're happy because the rest 413 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: of the AFC has shown time and again they don't 414 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. Denver in theory had a good thing. 415 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Now you got a coach breaking hippo. 416 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: Laws in theory and killing off his quarterback, saying, wait. 417 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Do you see what I do at quarterback? Bow Nicks? 418 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: You got that the only team you trust right now 419 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: is the Patriots and Drake may still turns the ball over. 420 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: So if you're the Steelers, like we're a playoff team 421 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: and nobody's any better. 422 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: Than we are, didn't we have enough of the conversation. 423 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: The Steelers are a playoffs and yeah, that's as far 424 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: as it goes for them. If you had Kirk, you 425 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: had Aaron Rodgers, And look at the Steelers the last 426 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: few years. 427 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: What have they done? 428 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: Every year it's been we're gonna restart a quarterback and 429 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: just try to get by. Where would the Steelers be 430 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: if they had actually drafted a guy that they made 431 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: it with that they took Kenny Pickett, and I feel 432 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: like it scarred them so much that we can't draft 433 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: another quarterback. We just got to go for guys that 434 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: are already in the league that are at the end 435 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: of their careers, like Justin Fields or Russell Wilson and 436 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, because you can't build from year to year 437 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: when you're trusting a thirty eight thirty nine year old quarterback. 438 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Right the Jets thought they could with Rogers, clearly they couldn't. Okay, 439 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: let's go in another direction, and the direction was worse 440 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: because they you know, they just went for justin Fields. 441 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: So you're at this point now, if you go get 442 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, you are well, he'll kind of hold the 443 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: fort for a year. It's not gonna be great. We 444 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: know what we're getting from him. He's not someone that 445 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: can suddenly flash and we're gonna be in the same 446 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: position next year. 447 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: What do we do. 448 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: Do we go get another quarterback, do we try to 449 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: do it, or do we go back with where we 450 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: run it back with Kirk Cousins. And you are paralyzed 451 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: with indecision because it could be worse. It's not gonna 452 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: get any better, and you need to make bold decisions 453 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: if you're moving on a quarterback. Right, So, Kirk Cousins, Yeah, 454 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't throw me anymore. 455 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. One of the teams that still needs 456 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: a quarterback. 457 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: And we can go through the list of the obvious, 458 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: and then there's a couple others where you still have 459 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: rumors of trades and whatever else. But it's to that 460 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: point of all right, we're just gonna keep swimming in 461 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: mediocrity at best or remain a bottom feeder at worst. Right, Okay, 462 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: Arizona gets rid of Kylamur. Great, you've got Jacoby Brissett there. Okay, 463 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: you already have a placeholder who makes no money. Kirk 464 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: isn't coming cheap, right, and that's one thing we've seen. 465 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: He'll figure out a way to finesse someone for a 466 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: bunch of money. It just should not be your team 467 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: because you're not getting that extra cornerback you need, you're 468 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: not getting an extra pass rusher, offense, veen linement, et cetera. 469 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: And he did nothing to distinguish himself. Now, obviously Drake 470 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: London missed sometimes. Kyle Pitts finally emerged for part of 471 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: the season, but he's still he's a jag jagplus. We'll 472 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: call him a jag plus. But and you had Jehan 473 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: Robinson who's all world. But you look at what his 474 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: final run and they won enough games down the stretch, 475 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: and he say, well, they look at they played well 476 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: enough to win. No, the defense was pretty good. They 477 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: were playing in a bad, mediocre, tepid division, right, because 478 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay fell back to the back, Carolina was just 479 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: good enough to win the three way tie break. And 480 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: here we are so going in on Kirk Cousins that 481 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: he's the break glass in case of emergency when your 482 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: guy gets hurt. So if suddenly Matthew Stafford really does 483 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: need a bachiotomy for a week, one guess what that, 484 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: I'll call Kirk Cousins. Until then he can sit and 485 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: let the market do what it will. Now again, I'm done. 486 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm done with Kirk Cousins. 487 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, you're still mad he jilted you, though there's still 488 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: a little bit. 489 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 2: I'd be a little bit. 490 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: I'd be madder if I thought that he was still 491 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: really good, or if he actually had done something instead 492 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: of just hey, you threw some touchdowns and now look 493 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: where you are. 494 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 495 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: The two guys I go out and get this offseason, 496 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: wait till I give you. We'll give you a hotel. 497 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: Let's go. 498 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: The two guys I go get are Malik Willis and 499 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. And not only do I get go after 500 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: those two. If I'm a team that needs a quarterback, 501 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: I go get both of them. Okay, now why do 502 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I like Malik Willison mac Jones? Both of them flashed 503 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: this year. Mac Jones played extremely well when the Niners 504 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: were down all kinds of playmakers, right, they had nobody 505 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and still mac Jones made that offense. Hum, right, brock 506 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: Perty's the guy. Now he came back played extremely well. 507 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: But mac Jones made that offense go. So you know, 508 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: just like we say for all the quarterbacks, there's a 509 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: system for everybody. So Mac Jones, you know, he played well. 510 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: Malik Willis stepped in for Jordan Love, he played extremely well. 511 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: I want guys that have the good pedigree because I 512 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: know if they have a good pedigree, there's a reason 513 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: for it and you can get them to a really 514 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: good level. Right, Malik Willis and Mac Jones at both 515 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: first round picks. So you know, with that being your base, 516 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: you are going to get players that were evaluated well 517 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: by the NFL coming out of college that you know 518 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: they have the talent, they have the makeup. We think 519 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: they can be star quarterbacks in the NFL. Right now, 520 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: it hasn't worked for them, but like we said, some 521 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: guys it takes a while to find their team. Took 522 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold seven years to find a place to go, 523 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: and now the guys in the bleep in Super Bowl. 524 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: So Willis and mac Jones now these are guys you're 525 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna go get. I go get both of them, because 526 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: first of all, it's really cheap. I can go out 527 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and for twenty twenty five million dollars and a fourth 528 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: round pick, get Malik Willis and Matt Jones. Great, because 529 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: mac Jones has contract with the Niners, right, the two 530 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: year eight million dollar deals is getting paid four million 531 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: for next year. You can trade probably a fourth round 532 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: pick for mac Jones. Maybe if you really want them, 533 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: you move it up to a third round pick if 534 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you have a couple of third round picks. But mac 535 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: Jones is available, right, they're not going to hold him 536 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: back from being a starting quarterback. They've talked about moving on. 537 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: They can go get Kirk Cousins to come in, so 538 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: you can go get mac Jones. Malik Willis is gonna 539 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: be out there and you can say, hey, I'll give 540 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: you two year fifteen million, two year twenty something like that, 541 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: guarantee you twelve million dollars the first year whatever you 542 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: want to give him. And you can even say, you 543 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: guys are both coming in. It's going to be a 544 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: quarterback derby. And while in theory you would say, oh, 545 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about that I'd wanted a place where 546 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to go be a quarterback. Well, do you 547 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: want to go be a quarterback where they're just gonna 548 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: go get somebody else at some point and be a 549 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: bridge guy for a year, or do you want to 550 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: go someplace where you can win the job, and even 551 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: if you lose the job, do you really think you're 552 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: not gonna play at some point? So, Malik Willison and 553 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: Mack Joons ai, Yeah, I don't want to compete, But 554 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: if you compet, Let's say mac Jones loses the gag, 555 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: you really think Mac Jones isn't gonna play at some 556 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: point during the season. If Malik Willis is great, right, 557 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: mac Jones, But then Mac Jones be a f agent 558 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: after this year and find someplace else. But chances are 559 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: these guys are still available for a reason. 560 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 2: And you know that even if I lose the derby, 561 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: I will play at some point. Right. 562 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: None of these guys have played a full year in 563 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: the NFL in a while Molik Willis hasn't. So this 564 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: is what I do. If I'm a team and I 565 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: sell them on, come in compete, and now you've solved 566 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: your quarterback position. Maybe for a couple of years. You 567 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: have two guys pretty good pedigree. Maybe you find the 568 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: system for them because now that's a very popular thing, 569 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: and they know, Okay, I have a chance to play 570 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: this year. Even if I lose the quarterback derby in camp, 571 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: I will play. And if I play, well, guess what 572 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: team's gonna sign me to a big contract and to 573 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: let the other guy go? 574 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: And I think that's gonna be me. I gotta dig 575 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: that you went full joker. 576 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: You broke the pool too, and he said, okay, make 577 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 3: it quick, so they had, you know, a rapid expansion. 578 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: I do like it. 579 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: The Malik Willis is curious that. I wonder if he 580 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: doesn't get a deal like Daniel Jones did, but maybe 581 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: with the second year option on it or something where 582 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: you're in that fifteen to. 583 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: Twenty million dollar range. 584 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: Hell, it might even be in Indianapolis before it's all 585 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 3: said done, as he recovers from an injury. But you 586 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: talk about pedigree, it's not just the first round pick. 587 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 3: They were also in pretty stable, good environments. It's not 588 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 3: often you get to come to market and come through 589 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: a trade scenario. In Willis's case, unrestricted free agent done 590 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: with his four year five zero point eight million dollar 591 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: deal or whatever that was. And then you're looking at 592 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: mac Jones, who's had a couple of stops but is 593 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 3: on the books pretty cheaply here for twenty twenty six. 594 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: But they both come from the Shanahan and Laflour. Now 595 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: you can decide how much you love or don't love 596 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: either of them, but their reputation in the NFL circles 597 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 3: and consistency of at least being viable contenders, Now what 598 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 3: they do once they're actually, you know, faced with down 599 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 3: in distant situations. This year San Francisco gets a little 600 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 3: bit of the hall pass of the number of people 601 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 3: that were hurt. 602 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: But for Green Bay, I guess you could do that 603 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: with Micah Parsons, but the offense was fully intact as 604 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: he took over there. But you're with Lafleur and you've 605 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: seen what he can do as a runner, as a 606 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: passer cannon for an arm and you could take your shot. 607 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: Now. 608 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: It's it's also incumbent upon you know them and their 609 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: agents as they're mulling offers, because Willis is going to 610 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 3: get a number of offers, would be my guess, right, 611 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 3: because you know you don't have anybody else in the 612 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: unrestricted class that he's really vying against. Everybody else either 613 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: has a cost or are so far down the path 614 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: that you're. 615 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: Going Yeah, no, no, no, I'll play ass. So let's 616 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: let's let's find our gem in day three. But yeah, 617 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: it's it's fun monopoly money for you and I. But 618 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: fund dominoes to fall and Captain Kirk would be a 619 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: distant third in any of this. Those again, I go 620 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: get both of them. I get both that. That's a 621 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: forward thinker right there. I solve my quarterback. 622 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: You've been talking about drafting quarterbacks from the second round 623 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 3: on for years. 624 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: You just need a forward thinker like me. Just need 625 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: to That's what I mean. 626 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: The Jets listen to you, except they inserted defensive tackle 627 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: instead of quarterback. Yeah, did the position thing gets pesky? 628 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: It really did kind of jump in the way time. 629 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: How to find out what's trending in the wide world 630 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: of sports of someone who's been called the mac Jones 631 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Radio. Once upon a time, we thought 632 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: she was the next Tom Brady. It's moah, you know, 633 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: Matt Jones. 634 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 6: Can U can prove that it's okay to be a 635 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 6: start a backup quarterback, but you just have to be 636 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 6: like a good one because you know, like most backup quarterbacks. 637 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: Are not He's a that's why they're a backup, but 638 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 2: they're not even good. 639 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mac Jones is like, na, I could be a 640 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 6: good one and probably make good money and you only 641 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: have to rely on me percent of the time. I 642 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 6: really ideally you only have to rely on me twenty 643 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 6: five percent. 644 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: Of the long. 645 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: I wish life was like that. Listen, you only need 646 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: to rely on me twenty five percent of the other 647 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: seventy five percent. I'm gonna let you down. Yeah, i'ma 648 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: let you down, but twenty five percent that yeah, met you. 649 00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. 650 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: What a nice way to live. 651 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 6: Nice way to live in the NFL, guys, The Eagles 652 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 6: have found their new offensive coordinator, and it's Packers quarterback 653 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 6: coach Sean Mannion, who did spend nine seasons as a 654 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: backup quarterback in the NFL before jumping into coaching two 655 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 6: years ago. New Ravens head coach Jesse Mincher said today 656 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 6: that he will be calling defensive plays in Baltimore, and 657 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 6: New Titans head coach Robert Sala said that he's going 658 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 6: to be calling defensive plays for Tennessee this season. Patriots 659 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: quarterback Drake May, who's dealing with the shoulder injury, did 660 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 6: take some reps in practice today ahead of the Super 661 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: Bowl and the Falcons. This came in not long ago, 662 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 6: but they're hiring Bear's assistant GM Ian Cunningham. 663 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: To be their next GM. 664 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 6: All right. In the NBA, it's late in the third 665 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 6: quarter the Hornets and the Mavericks. It's a tight one, 666 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 6: but the Hornets are up right now, eighty eight to 667 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 6: eighty two. Conkinable twenty eight points late in the third 668 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 6: quarter as well. Nuggets up on the Nets seventy to 669 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 6: sixty five halfway. 670 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 2: Through the third quarter. 671 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 6: The Suns are still up on the Pistons, but the 672 00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 6: Pistons are on a scoring frenzy in the third quarter. 673 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 6: They have outscored Phoenix eighteen to five to cut the deficits, 674 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 6: so Suns are up seventy seven to seventy four. Dylan 675 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 6: Brooks twenty seven points for Phoenix. Timberwolves right now over 676 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 6: the Thunder fifty nine to forty six late in the 677 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 6: second quarter, while the seventy six ers defeated the Kings 678 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 6: one thirteen to one eleven on a Tyresmaxi layup pended 679 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 6: with forty points in the win. 680 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: Wizards defeated the Bucks, who. 681 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 6: Were playing without giannisnta togoombo, one oh nine to ninety nine. 682 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 6: The Rocks beat the Hawks a short handed Hawks one 683 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 6: o four to eighty six, and the Heat outscored the 684 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 6: Bulls won sixteen to one thirteen. In men's college hoops, 685 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 6: halfway through the second half, Number nine Illinois leeds Washington 686 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 6: fifty six to forty eight, and you can catch all 687 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 6: the action on FS one. 688 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, thanks a bunch of mons. 689 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports or 690 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Radio studios. 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Well. 714 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: When you score forty, including the big go ahead basket, 715 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: you get to be the play of the day. 716 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: When it comes to mb scoops. 717 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: It to tyres Maxi, Tyrese Maxi. 718 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great marvel and the Foul Sixers TV 719 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: on the call. 720 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: Another big night for Tyrese Maxi. 721 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: Hey embid made the highlight at Lacy passed to Tyres Maxi, 722 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: so that's good. Happened. He did have thirty seven in 723 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: a row. No. No. 724 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: Sixers beat the Kings one thirteen to one eleven. Again. 725 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: Embiid one of the more interesting names to follow as 726 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: we get close to the trade deadline, like all of 727 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: a sudden the early season, I'm only playing twenty minutes 728 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: on this I'm that okay, that seems we have gone away, 729 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: but ah, you know, I all the honest talk, But Embiid, 730 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: we get close to the deadline, I'm not gonna be 731 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: surprized if suddenly, Hey guess what, everybody winners of four 732 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: of five and in those games thirty three, forty six, 733 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: thirty six, twenty nine. 734 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 2: And thirty six. The forty six was an overtime game. 735 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: But either way that you've gotten that minute level up 736 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: into the mid thirties with some regularity. 737 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 2: Because I ask you, this. 738 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: Is Joel Embiid playing out of his shoes right now 739 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: because he's upset, he's motivated, he's back with the team. 740 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: He realizes it. Boy, Maxi and Edgecomb could wind up 741 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: being the big one too. I'm not gonna be Lebron 742 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: and get pushed to the side or is he saying, Hey, 743 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm showcasing myself a little bit of both. 744 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean, there's something to be said for the fact 745 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: that Edgecomb had five tonight. 746 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: Well not everybody. 747 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: When when when one guy's got forty and no other 748 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: guy's got thirty, seven's life point, that means that they 749 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,280 Speaker 1: as a duo pushed him to the side. 750 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Rook, sit the one and took seven shots. 751 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, anything he gonna do, you're just 752 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: gonna stand there and keep clapping for the ball. 753 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: That I that's what you're gonna have. 754 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: But certainly the you know, the motivation and trying to showcase, 755 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: much like we talked about with your guy Karl Anthony 756 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: Towns that every time there's a new back back of 757 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 3: the fish Rap report, suddenly he's got a twenty rebound game. 758 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: Tadda Joel Embad much the same. Hey, look, I ramped 759 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: up my minutes. Get me out of here. So speaking 760 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: of Giannis, Okay, now, obviously this is the big story 761 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: in spoutside of the Super Bowl. As we count down 762 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: to the trade deadline, Giannis is likely going to get 763 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: dealt later or now. Jockeying for position on him, whether 764 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: it's the Warriors, whether it's the Knicks, whether it is 765 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: the Heat, whether it's the Knicks, whether it is the Wolves, 766 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: whether it's the Knicks. Carl Anthony Towns is upset. It's suddenly, 767 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's being mentioned in all these 768 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: trade talks and like, dude, be a professional, play better defense, 769 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: and maybe it wouldn't try to trade you. 770 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 2: But it's hard. 771 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you uproot your life and family and 772 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: friends that are your support system and a home that 773 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: you've come to love. 774 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: There in New York. Maybe you got a favorite Swarma guy. 775 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. Whatever the case may be, it upsets 776 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: the apple cart. 777 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: And let's face it, if you win in New York, 778 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: you'll never pay for Swarm again. 779 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: So first we save the world, then we get Shwarm. 780 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: That's true. 781 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: So with the Yanna story getting out, his mom Veronica 782 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: Elvis Costello. 783 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 2: Song Veronica sits in her favorite chair. 784 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: Jannis's mom, Veronica shared a throwback photo on Facebook after 785 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: Yannis went, I ate the public is the demand is 786 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: out there? 787 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 2: We know the team's talking to him. 788 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: She went and put a photo on Facebook of Yannis 789 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: standing on the court in Miami. Well then home of 790 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: the Heat. I mean she didn't put a caption in 791 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: her post. She didn't say anything about it. Oh, wouldn't 792 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: be nice to go here? Just a picture of Jannis 793 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: in the three to zho five on the Heat's court. 794 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: See that's pretty good because I can one up you. Okay. 795 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: Jannis and his family have reportedly spent twenty one million 796 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 1: dollars on real estate in the Greater Chicago Land area. 797 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: Ah. 798 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: Now, certain things are they signs? Are they not right? 799 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: Because you see stuff like this all the time as 800 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: you talked about with the with real estate spending. 801 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Okay, are there signs? Are they buy a. 802 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: House in a depressed area realizing that they probably is 803 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: going to be worth double in ten years? 804 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 2: Yes? 805 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: Is this a sign that the Heat could end up 806 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: being his preferred destination? And I will tell you one percent. Yes, 807 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: Jannie is way more calculated than you think he is. 808 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 2: Right. 809 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: We always say Lebron's the most calculated player in the NBA. 810 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: Nothing gets output out there, sure unless he wants a 811 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: message out there. For whether it's a picture and working 812 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: out in Cleveland, Clippers, whatever it is. When Lebron says 813 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: does something, there is something behind it. Jannis is the 814 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: same way he's just nicer about it, right, because he's 815 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: taken this and done a masterclass the last year of 816 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: greasing the skids for his exit from Milwaukee to get 817 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: the least amount of blame possible. Sure, right, because we 818 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: go all the way back to the offseason where Hey, Nixon, 819 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: Bucks are talking about Yannis couldn't make it happen? Okay, 820 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, Hey story that his agent's talking 821 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: to the Bucks. Is this the right place for his future? 822 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: Is it someplace else? Okay, getting used to that, and 823 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: then in the span of a couple of days, he 824 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: boos the fans, right, gives him thumbs down, and then 825 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: rips his teammates after a lack of bad effort. 826 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: Right, So I am. 827 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Now going back at the fans and I'm ripping my teammates. 828 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: And now four days after that, it's I want to 829 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: move on, and it's time. He is extremely calculated. None 830 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: of this is happening because this is something that Janni says, 831 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: gotten emotional about. Think about this timeline of where we're 832 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: at and how he has chosen right before the deadline 833 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: for the thumbs down and the dressing down of his teammates. Right, 834 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: he knows exactly what he's doing. His mom knows what 835 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: she's doing. By putting this picture on Facebook of Jannis 836 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: in Miami, this is not Oh I heard about that, 837 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: so I decided to put that on Facebook. Yeah, it 838 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 1: doesn't just doesn't work that way. Yeah, there's a lot 839 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: of things at work. So is this a sign one 840 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: hundred percent if on Miami. I'm feeling great about my 841 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: chance of getting Yannis after this, because this is how 842 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: you make signs. This is how you give a nod 843 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: to people that may, hey, come after me. Let's make 844 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: it work, Because honestly, I wouldn't doubt if Yannis and 845 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: the Bucks are working together to make this happen. Instead 846 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: of well, Yannis, you don't want to be here, blank 847 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: you We're gonna get the best trade and you're gonna 848 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: like it. I would not be surprised because of how 849 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: Yannis is that they're working together behind the scenes for 850 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: the maximum value that they can get for him and 851 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: where he wants to go. That wouldn't surprise me. Well, 852 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: and as an organization, we talked about it with Rick 853 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: Buker a little bit last night, and you and I 854 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: extended the conversation. You don't want to be the bad 855 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: guy neither side. Right, the Bucks as an organization, this 856 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: is the kid that you drafted. 857 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 2: You took the. 858 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Shot on in the middle of the first round, skinny 859 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: kid from Greasy nobody could pronounce his name. Hell, people 860 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 1: struggled with Yannis, right, I mean that that was a 861 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: bridge too far from any year. And then all of 862 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: a sudden they blow up on the biggest stage and 863 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: he's competing for title. 864 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's a whole other world. But you got thirteen 865 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 3: years out of this marriage, right, You had a good run. 866 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 3: You got a bunch of first round exits. Maybe helped 867 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 3: usher Budenholzer out the door a couple of years ago. 868 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 3: He's gone through the Doc Rivers thing. And how much 869 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 3: acrimony there really is, I don't know, but it seems 870 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 3: like both are ready that it that it's time for 871 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: the next iteration. Bucks don't want to tank their organization 872 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: by making it bad blood and Giannis wants everybody to 873 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 3: love him. 874 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: I feel great if I'm the heat I feel bad 875 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: if I'm the Knicks. Unfortunately, I feel bad if I'm 876 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: the Warriors. That this is what's gone out there, because 877 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: this is absolutely assigned coming up next? What two NFL 878 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders are happy to be flying under the 879 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: radar this week because stuff has happened really in back