WEBVTT - BEST OF: Kailey Dickerson

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<v Speaker 1>I am pumped to bring back another favorite episode one

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<v Speaker 1>of them that I did with Kaylee Dickerson. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>wife of Russell Dickerson and I had this interview with

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<v Speaker 1>her right when Russell was popping off with his song Yours.

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<v Speaker 1>It was his debut single, and Kaylee hadn't they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>had babies yet.

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<v Speaker 2>They just were in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Of praying for so much and believing in God's promises

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<v Speaker 1>that were put on their heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just such a great episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just had her back a few months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just so cool to see where their life

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<v Speaker 1>has gone and where God has led them, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a fun one to revisit with Kaylee Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 3>Car She he's the queen of talking who you was,

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<v Speaker 3>So she's on the side got the stoopid laws and

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<v Speaker 3>all the laws side.

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<v Speaker 2>No one can win quiet by.

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<v Speaker 3>Can can No one can win quiet Cave is t Caro.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Get Real podcast, I have Kayleie Dickerson

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<v Speaker 1>joining me. She is such an incredible inspiring soul to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to. Every time I sit down and talk with her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just blown away by her faith, by her humor,

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<v Speaker 1>her trust in God. She and Russell Dickerson, her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a rising star. He just had a second

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<v Speaker 1>number one single on country radio. He makes a grand

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<v Speaker 1>entrance in the beginning of the podcast, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kaylee and Russell's faith is so strong.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been believing in this dream of country music

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<v Speaker 1>for so many years.

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<v Speaker 2>We walk through their.

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<v Speaker 1>Entire journey, and something so cool is Kaylee has been

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<v Speaker 1>right there by Russell's side the whole time, and she

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<v Speaker 1>has been the videographer and the producer of all of

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<v Speaker 1>Russell's music videos so far. She said two number one

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<v Speaker 1>music videos on CMT Blue Jacoma was her latest one

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<v Speaker 1>in Yours.

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<v Speaker 2>They filmed Yours when Russell had nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no money to make a music video, and

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<v Speaker 1>they went out and shot it themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Kayley directed it.

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<v Speaker 1>So their story is so incredible and they just have

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<v Speaker 1>the most optimistic attitude about life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so uplifting to be around them. So get excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Kaye Dickerson. Okay, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>At Kaylee Dickerson's How Hello, wife of Russell Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey. He was a very hilarious, dynamic country singer. Yes

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<v Speaker 2>he is. Oh, oh, oh my god, he's here. Gee,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know he was gonna be here. Didn't know you

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<v Speaker 2>had an elevator in your house. Oh love you, honeybuye.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Where where do you like to ride that elevator

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<v Speaker 2>down to the laundry, down to the wine cellar library? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>not very necessary, Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay. So it sounds like you guys have no

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<v Speaker 1>fun in your marriage at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Zero yeah, zero fun. No laughs, no, no laughs none.

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<v Speaker 2>What is a typical day like here at the Dickerson house.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, it's an adventure. He is truly like wakes

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<v Speaker 2>up thinking it's the best day every single day. And

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<v Speaker 2>where does that mentality come from? I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it is he is unicorns, rainbows, like this morning

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<v Speaker 2>he goes like, first thing I woke up to today

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<v Speaker 2>was it's knowing. Like he's like, Buddy the Elf. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>that reminds me of Elf in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like like he's never seen snow in his life,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's so cute.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cute.

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<v Speaker 1>So that has to you have the same infectious personality

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<v Speaker 1>also though, like you're always glass half full, optimistic, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy kid. I mean so seriously, y'all are like

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on a rainbow to not skittles.

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<v Speaker 2>I just pictured the little kid on like dream works,

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<v Speaker 2>like going fishing from the moon. I'm like, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feels like that. Yeah, So okay, since you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have such an optimistic personality, how do you guys

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<v Speaker 2>deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>This music industry? Because not every day is an optimistic day?

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<v Speaker 1>So how do you navigate this wild industry? And you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have something? Y'all have something really special because you

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<v Speaker 1>are always by Russell's side. Yeah, Like y'all are a

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<v Speaker 1>true partnership and you are on the road with him constantly,

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<v Speaker 1>which a lot of women would have a hard time doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love it. Okay, so you're made for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Yeah. I have five older brothers, so

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<v Speaker 2>the only girl, the only girl, and we traveled so

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<v Speaker 2>hardcore for soccer for them that I lived in a

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<v Speaker 2>van with a bunch of boys. This is normal for now,

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<v Speaker 2>I just live in a bigger van with a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of boys. Actually, yeah, love it, I really do love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's yeah, it's not an industry that's always rainbows

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<v Speaker 2>and unicorns. But I feel like we've known for so

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<v Speaker 2>long and had to fight for everything we knew he

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<v Speaker 2>was supposed to do that, even the things that we

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<v Speaker 2>were like praying for so hard, we like we want this,

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<v Speaker 2>we want that, and even when they didn't happen, it

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, they're not supposed to happen. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>just the lands is like everything works together for the

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<v Speaker 2>good always, you know. So like we actually laughed about

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<v Speaker 2>that the other day, like he really wanted to think

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<v Speaker 2>called on the verge for radio, and we were praying

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<v Speaker 2>for it for years, you know, We're like, oh, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. On the verge is where all the radio

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<v Speaker 1>stations decide to play your songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryeah, yeah, like you're single. So we were like definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>we're definitely you have to be like a first artist.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be like your first thing. And he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get it, and we were so bummed, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>looking back, I'm really we're thankful. Like now we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually kind of glad that we built those relationships

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<v Speaker 2>the hard way and like did it the long way,

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<v Speaker 2>and now the second time I'm around, it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was better and it was I don't know, we just

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<v Speaker 2>we thought it just wasn't our story. And for some

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<v Speaker 2>people it like skyrockets them into the stratosphere. And it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's everyone's story is so different, but we're grateful for

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<v Speaker 2>how ours has. You know, is turning out. God is

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<v Speaker 2>a big part of y'all's journey. You always talk about God.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that this is this is like the centerpiece

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all's life, career.

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<v Speaker 2>Marriage. Where does that come from? We both grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in the church. Okay, so his dad is a worship

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<v Speaker 2>pastor in Nashville at Woodmont Baptist where we got married,

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<v Speaker 2>really in Greenhill because some preachers' kids turn the other

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<v Speaker 2>way and like get wild and crazy. We both had

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<v Speaker 2>our We definitely had our. I don't I know I

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<v Speaker 2>had a I don't think I believe in God anymore faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I had that phase in high school. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>he never did. He is just like the most faith,

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<v Speaker 2>like they say, like faith is a gift. He has

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<v Speaker 2>the gift of faith, just blind, total faith.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm always gonna think of him like Buddy the

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<v Speaker 1>elf now from Yeah, oh yeah he really is.

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<v Speaker 2>He really is, just not in the jumpsuit, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>like world's best coffee. Congratulations. Yeah, So I grew up

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<v Speaker 2>Pastor's sister, and so because my brother is basically old

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<v Speaker 2>enough to be my dad. Okay, because yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you said. Your oldest brother is twenty years twenty years older.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was my youth pastor. He was really foundational

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<v Speaker 2>in my beliefs, and my parents are Christians, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was more hands on, went to seminary. I was learning

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<v Speaker 2>all these things with him that I thought were so

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<v Speaker 2>interesting and then had a moment where I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is real.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh no, this is definitely real. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so what was that moment? Why did you not think

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<v Speaker 1>it was real? And then what made you?

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<v Speaker 2>I brought me back. I went to Belmont, So in

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<v Speaker 2>my high school in Wisconsin, there were like there were Christians,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was no one was like I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifices for this, and I kind of was. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>go to all the parties and I didn't do things

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought like a good Christian should do, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I moved to Nashville and I was like, there

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be a they're Christians. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be alone and I got here and that didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, I think this is just

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<v Speaker 2>something my family does, okay. And I was like, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't real okay, and then I kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything wild and crazy to figure it out,

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<v Speaker 2>but all of a sudden I felt different one day,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, and I was like, if I feel different,

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<v Speaker 2>that means there's something to feel, so God's real. That

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<v Speaker 2>was it. And then that was it. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>that then on you yeah, just sure, yeah, like it

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the joy in life was gone, okay, And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like if if if there's something to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that, then God's real. I don't know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>that simple. Yeah. And we found each other way after that,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had come full circle. I was like doing

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<v Speaker 2>missions photography and he was leading worship at a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of churches and you were not interested in dating musician,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was not on the agenda for daily No,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not so what I always found them like, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that if I look at my track record,

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<v Speaker 2>it was all musics. They were all musicians, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong with me? I was drawn to it? I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I don't know, and so I've done some stalking

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<v Speaker 2>on you and obviously I know you.

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<v Speaker 1>But so you had like maybe not the best relationship

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<v Speaker 1>before Russell. Oh yeah, so you got a little burned,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you weren't necessarily open, especially to the musician,

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<v Speaker 1>especially to a relationship. How did you You talked about

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<v Speaker 1>trust a lot, like Russell told you to trust them,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're like, okay, you're a human.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally like you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard that God, yeah told you trust? Where did that

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<v Speaker 1>all come from? And you're still good at hearing science

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<v Speaker 1>from God? Like hearing hearing God speak to you. He

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<v Speaker 1>comes to you in dreams, he comes to you in signs.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk to you about that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>But so like how did that come? Where you knew

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<v Speaker 1>you had to trust and like this is a leap

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna take.

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<v Speaker 2>I I would always pray that if it wasn't God's

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<v Speaker 2>best whoever I was dating after that guy, after I

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<v Speaker 2>got burned, I was like, if this isn't your best

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<v Speaker 2>for me, God, just take him, okay, And every single

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<v Speaker 2>time he did, like within like two weeks. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I love about your face. It is like you ask

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets answered, Well, he's like that though in

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<v Speaker 2>my obviously in my experience, but you trust so will

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<v Speaker 2>you trust so fully that the answer is coming? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it came from hard decisions like breaking up with that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly was like, God, if if he's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be faithful, like I always had a fear of that

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<v Speaker 2>and with him specifically, And if that's gonna be the

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<v Speaker 2>trajectory of my life and I'm gonna have kids and

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna happen, I need it to happen now, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>get out and no joke. In the two years we

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<v Speaker 2>had dated, he had never cheated on me, and after

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<v Speaker 2>I prayed that he cheated six times. Wow, And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like okay, So it took a hard thing. I

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<v Speaker 2>broke up with the guy I thought I was gonna marry.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not all like rainbows hearing God speak because

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<v Speaker 2>that sucked a lot. But then when it came to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuilding my heart and trusting someone again, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, well God saved me the last time, he'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it again. And it's actually a really cool story.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to call him probably years later because I

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<v Speaker 2>was in church and I was like, God, what's like

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<v Speaker 2>between us, like is there anything like I'm holding on to,

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<v Speaker 2>like just talk to me basically? And how do you

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<v Speaker 2>talk to God? Like how do you how does he

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<v Speaker 2>answer you? How do you know when he's giving you

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<v Speaker 2>an answer? You just know? Like it's almost like someone

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you think of something you didn't think of,

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<v Speaker 2>so all of a sudden, I thought it'll come across

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<v Speaker 2>my mind that I know I didn't generate, okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's faith in that too, because sometimes you're like, no,

0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking that, right, and then you just trust

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<v Speaker 2>it and see what happens and if it's not him,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll show itself. But in this case it was. And

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, you don't believe I won't let you down, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like whoa and an all knowing response. Yeah,

0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like some people. Everyone's different. Everyone hears God different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's feelings or dreams or in this case, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>always speak like that to me, but when I ask,

0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.960
<v Speaker 2>he usually says something okay. And so I I was

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<v Speaker 2>like immediately thought of my ex and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my gosh, I I prayed for this and all

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<v Speaker 2>this time I've thought that you hurt me and let

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<v Speaker 2>me date someone who would hurt me when really he

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<v Speaker 2>immediately was like I saved you. And I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't let me down. You saved me. And so

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<v Speaker 2>immediately I remembered I had prayed for it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought of how he must still be feeling because he

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<v Speaker 2>would come to town for the next year and try

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<v Speaker 2>and get me back. And you were like strong on it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, no way, not happening. Yeah. Once you made

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<v Speaker 2>up your mind, you were done. I was done. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well also, and once you found out he cheated on

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<v Speaker 2>you six times, well yeah. And I honestly was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to forgive him. And then I remembered what I'd prayed

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my bad, Like I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally forgot. Yeah, And I was like I can

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<v Speaker 2>forgive you. And anyway, it's this is the real, the

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<v Speaker 2>real deal story. And so I called him year like

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<v Speaker 2>years later and I maybe were married at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow, And we were in church and he was

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<v Speaker 2>actually leading warship and I walked out and I was yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I called my ex and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want you to know that that wasn't you,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we weren't supposed to be together and I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>going to see it other than that. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to release you from thinking that you messed everything up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I prayed for this to happen

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<v Speaker 2>if we weren't supposed to be together, and it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not your character and it's not who you

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<v Speaker 2>are and you're not going to you know, all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, he's crying on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm crying on the Wow, you gave him serious like

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<v Speaker 1>forgiveness and freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I was like, this is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be your future. I mean it's shifted into like prophesying

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<v Speaker 2>over his life. I'm like, this is not who you are,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not who you're going to be. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a great dad and a great husband, and

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of let him go. And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>he was crying, I was crying, and what a release though.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a really special thing actually, And then for

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<v Speaker 1>him to have that giveness for me, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and to think that like he doesn't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he won't. He's married as a kid, like

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<v Speaker 2>he's just a good dude. I hope I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've gone through like the hard stuff with God

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<v Speaker 2>that that good stuff is that much sweeter and so

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<v Speaker 2>are you able to see the hard stuff now as

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<v Speaker 2>part of God's good plan totally. That's something I've been

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<v Speaker 2>learning lately, is because I used to think things were

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<v Speaker 2>good or bad, like if something like bad happens, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially like in this industry, this wild industry, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's a roller coaster ride, and I'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>if things don't go according to plan, And even with

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<v Speaker 2>my own career, I've had.

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<v Speaker 1>A wild career in the industry. It's like so many

0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:42.200
<v Speaker 1>things have blown up in my face. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning it crushed me, Like when it first started happening,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, how can this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>In my life? Is over? How will we ever like

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<v Speaker 2>move on?

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<v Speaker 1>And then comes this next wave of lessons of learning,

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<v Speaker 1>of things getting answered in ways that could have never

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<v Speaker 1>been answered if something bad per se hadn't happened, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's made me realize that things really aren't bad.

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<v Speaker 2>You just have to be willing to find the message

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<v Speaker 2>in them. And it's all for the good. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>for the good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all for the good, and we just expect that

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<v Speaker 1>God's gonna do things in a way that feel right

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<v Speaker 1>to us.

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<v Speaker 2>But God teaches us lessons in all different ways totally,

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<v Speaker 2>and now a lot of them hurts. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>his goal for our lives isn't that it's like sunshine

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<v Speaker 2>and unicorns. It's not. It's that we are good people

0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.960
<v Speaker 2>and we're humble people, and that we love others well.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes the hard stuff force you to do those

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<v Speaker 2>things and see what really matters and what doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see it. You're in Africa with little kids

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<v Speaker 2>who are smiling bigger than anyone you've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 2>your life, and all they have is a deflated soccer ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are things in this life that we think

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<v Speaker 2>matter that don't at all. Yeah, they just don't. They don't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that perspective is what really opens our

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<v Speaker 1>eyes to it. I totally, and I've like this year

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<v Speaker 1>my word has been surrender because so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Always have so many plans and I still have so

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<v Speaker 1>many plans, and I still have so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Goals, and like I want my life. I know how

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<v Speaker 2>I want my life to look because I very visionary

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I'm like some of the greatest things that

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened to me have been so off course.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, So it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm trying to just let it all roll and

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<v Speaker 1>if something happens that rocks in my world, just get

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<v Speaker 1>the lesson, figure out why it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes being humbled is such a good thing too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thankful too. Like, even if I hadn't had that heartbreak,

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<v Speaker 2>how would I ever relate to other girls who've been heartbroken?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm? You know, and what if you you might

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<v Speaker 2>not even appreciate Russell, Oh happy he is. You might

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<v Speaker 2>just think that's how Yeah, people are just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No they're not, No, they're not. But yeah, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just so even so, Russ and I even broke up

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<v Speaker 2>while we were dating, okay, or y'all just just test

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<v Speaker 2>it out to make sure. Michael and I broke up too,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were just we just graduated college. He was

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<v Speaker 2>about to take off and be this superstar and I

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<v Speaker 2>was I was still figuring my stuff out too, And

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<v Speaker 2>so even when that, even when that ended, I still

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<v Speaker 2>was praying, God, if this is not your best, if

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't your best for me, like take him. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when that happened. I was like, Okay, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>not Russell. And I just had so much peace because

0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I'd already done this, you know, and I'd already and

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<v Speaker 2>so in turn, I didn't get all clinging on him

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<v Speaker 2>and be like but but no, no, no, we're supposed

0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:33.240
<v Speaker 2>to be together. We're supposed to be together. Your faith

0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.520
<v Speaker 2>was strong. I just let him go. I let him

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<v Speaker 2>go and and I prayed for him and prayed. I

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, I would still be like if it's if

0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 2>it's him bringing back. If it's not, I don't want him.

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<v Speaker 2>And sure enough, within about a month he came back

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<v Speaker 2>and he called me on Thanksgiving. While in that month,

0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm thankful for you and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, what why are you calling me? He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just thought about you and just

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell you I was thankful for you. Its

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<v Speaker 2>like okay. Because he was like we'll be friends, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, hell no, I've never been one of

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.280
<v Speaker 2>those people to be friends with exes. No. I was like,

0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.719
<v Speaker 2>you do not get both my friends, you do not

0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:15.680
<v Speaker 2>get both. And I think that honestly helped a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>because I could just really let him go and I

0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.760
<v Speaker 2>wasn't half there, half not and not lukewarm. Yeah. I

0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.679
<v Speaker 2>was like, you're all in or you're not. And he

0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 2>came back and it was all in, and then you'll

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<v Speaker 2>how long until you got married? After that? He proposed

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<v Speaker 2>a year in a month or so after that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we got married three months after that. As soon

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<v Speaker 2>as we were engaged, okay, song age was very veryge

0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.040
<v Speaker 2>we were like, let's do this, let's get married. We

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<v Speaker 2>weren't living together, you know, we were like, we're so

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.960
<v Speaker 2>excited to be married. I didn't. I wasn't excited about

0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.679
<v Speaker 2>a wedding, Like, yeah, I really. I was like this

0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.399
<v Speaker 2>sounds so stressful, especially as the only girl. I was like,

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.960
<v Speaker 2>pressure is on. And I was like, so, y'all have

0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.879
<v Speaker 2>kind of a low key wedding. There's six hundred people.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Not at the receptions. Anxiety. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a very anxious person, which also I think helps

0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:06.760
<v Speaker 2>with this whole world.

0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 1>It's because of your faith that you don't have anxiety. Probably, yeah, probably.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so solid in your faith. No, No, there's plenty

0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.920
<v Speaker 2>of times I'm like, hello God, Hello, dinging being right here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's plenty of times but or when a

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.800
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine just went through something so hard. And

0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.040
<v Speaker 2>there are plenty of times I'm like, God, where are

0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you in this? Because this is not good? And there

0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.840
<v Speaker 2>because life happens and we're not in heaven so it's

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 2>just not gonna be heaven here and I understand that.

0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's plenty of times that I'm like, hello,

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.119
<v Speaker 2>this isn't cool. Yeah, this is really really hard. And

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 2>there were plenty of times in his career the last

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<v Speaker 2>five years we've been like where are you? I know,

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I know, I think though everyone has that journey and

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it's okay. It's more human being. It's like if anyone

0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 2>tells you they never question anything anytime, I'd be like

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Concer unless they're rustle and they have the gift of faith.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I mean, he just really is like a fairy

0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 2>and God is everywhere and what's so huge? What would

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 2>it be to be like him for a day. I

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know. I'm honestly kind of scared.

0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Like his he has a serious add Oh it's like

0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.120
<v Speaker 2>bing bing bing bing bing, It's so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just talking about how he's starting his vlog,

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<v Speaker 1>which who knows if this will ever even happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be honest because his.

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<v Speaker 1>Add is like I'm super into this right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it changes everything.

0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he's doing the whole thing. Okay, but it's like

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I watched them his first episode and it truly is

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.959
<v Speaker 2>like insight into his brain. Okay, because this is his direction,

0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>because it's he is shooting, he's choosing what to film,

0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.679
<v Speaker 2>he's editing, so it is like all over the place,

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 2>like it is like a trip through his brain. It's

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 2>so fun exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. I'm excited. I'm excited,

0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:56.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just glad I'm not doing it.

0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's kind of fun with the camera, babe,

0:20:58.800 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna chill.

0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a change of roles because you're the videographer of

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the family. Hello to CMT number one videos. Hey, how

0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:10.400
<v Speaker 2>is that weird? Like it's so funny. I'm super proud

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.200
<v Speaker 2>of it because female directors are really rare, like really rare. Yes,

0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Like we were nominated for Breakthrough Video last year at

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 2>CMTS filming, so yeah, just making sure we're filming. I

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.200
<v Speaker 2>had to rig my situation so it couldn't check it. Yeah,

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>we should take I should take a picture of what's

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 2>happening over here to put on. That's how I'll posts

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.639
<v Speaker 2>that we're doing this podcast. So we were nominated for

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.960
<v Speaker 2>CMT Breakthrough Video with Yours Yes, which was purely just

0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:39.280
<v Speaker 2>me and him and our friend Ben driving, And that.

0:21:39.280 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Was also a leap of faith video because at that

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.000
<v Speaker 1>point there wasn't a whole lot going on with Russell's career.

0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.640
<v Speaker 2>No, there was nothing. Everyone had said no, everyone had

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 2>said no. So you said, okay, let me just go

0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.680
<v Speaker 2>out and film this video. Yeah. Yeah, Well I had

0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.520
<v Speaker 2>so my fourth brother, the one whose apartment we're in

0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.640
<v Speaker 2>in which also you have a getaway in La which

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 2>we have to talk about. Yes, he moved to Santa Barbara,

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>but he was rent controlled and I was like, yeah,

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.720
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna take this over. It's a dream. So he

0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 2>is a director, has done tons of major, major music videos,

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>and so I was a junior in college and he

0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, I'd just gotten a nice camera for

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.959
<v Speaker 2>Christmas and he had this video job come through that

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:18.960
<v Speaker 2>they didn't initially like the first video that was shot,

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:22.439
<v Speaker 2>so all the budget was gone and he's like, I

0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 2>have five thousand dollars to pull off a video wasn't

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.360
<v Speaker 2>it Nora Jones or yeah. He's like, can you bring

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 2>your camera? And I was like sure, and I was like,

0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.240
<v Speaker 2>I've never done this and he was like I was senior,

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>was like coming into her moment. No, it wasn't like

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 2>come away with me, but it was like shortly after

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 2>and within like five years of that, I don't know.

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 2>And so we flew out. I was like, what are

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 2>we doing? Where are we going? He's like, I'm taking

0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you to New York. We're doing this. So I'm a

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 2>junior in college. I've never shot a music video in

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 2>my life. I'd just done photography, so I don't know

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:58.320
<v Speaker 2>why I said photography so weird. I did photography like

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 2>headshots all that in the music school at Belmont. And

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.600
<v Speaker 2>then he was like, I've seen your eye. A good

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>eye is a good eye. Like, i'll teach you how

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 2>to film. You already have the other part. I was like, okay,

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>thanks bro, thank you. So he flew me and I

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, where are we going? He was like, do

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 2>you know who Noah Jones is? And I was like, yes,

0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I come away with we had come out, Yes, okay,

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 2>So she's already she's already a superstar. Yeah, and he

0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 2>has a five thousand dollars budget for a video. I

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know a lot to tell that. How does this happen? Well,

0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 2>they didn't like the first video that they that was

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>made that used the budget, so then they're just like

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 2>they're like, Okay, let's redo it and make it work. Like,

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 2>let's go with that other guy that we didn't pick

0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 2>his treatment and give him the tiniest budget in the world.

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 2>And so we filmed it all in her apartment okay,

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and all these different other places too, but yeah, just

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>around New York. Just shot b Roll and he did

0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.199
<v Speaker 2>some stuff out in LA So he was like I

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 2>want He's like, I have enough on my reel. I'm

0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:53.680
<v Speaker 2>putting you as DP of this director of photography, so

0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.880
<v Speaker 2>like the cinematographer. And I was like that, excuse big job. Yeah,

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't even know how to do that. Photography

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 2>found you. Yeah, it did. Honestly, I wasn't like I'm

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be a cinematographer. So I'd already done it

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 2>with Nora Jones, with Door Jones. That's a good start.

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:11.720
<v Speaker 2>So then I came back and I did other music

0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>videos in Nashville, like low budget did that give you

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a good confidence boost? Yeah? I guess it gave me.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 2>It let me raise my rates and make a living.

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>But like that's the girl that did the Nora Jones video.

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, yeah, guys, I'm a professional for sure.

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 2>So then when every label said no to him, I

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:33.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, we can do this, Like, we can do

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>this ourselves. And how did you come up with the idea?

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Because it's literally Russell walking down a road and then

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 2>it starts raining.

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's random, but totally worked out, yes, because that

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 1>wasn't planned right, No, No, So we were just going

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to shoot test footage and a storm was like rolling

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in because I wanted to be sure.

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to slow it down and speed up the

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 2>music because it asked whatever, and I was like, I

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>want to be sure that I know that I can

0:24:56.200 --> 0:25:00.120
<v Speaker 2>do this. So we went out there and as we're coming,

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 2>this storm is just rolling in and I was like, okay,

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.320
<v Speaker 2>we need we need to get somewhere quick quick wick

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Like we hadn't even done location scouting. We're outside of

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the prison in that in West Nashville kind of awesome. Yeah,

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>there's fire or tornado sirens going off and we couldn't

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.360
<v Speaker 2>hear them. But now, looking back, I think that's why

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 2>we didn't get stopped. Oh, because everyone was undercover. We

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>were only there for like an hour and a half.

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 2>He just walked down this road. Cars would come and

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>we'd have to like redo it, and I'd be like, hurry, hurry, hurry.

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 2>The rain's coming. So we were driving and I was

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.439
<v Speaker 2>again I was like, God, it'd be nice if I

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>got all of my shots that I need before the

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:41.400
<v Speaker 2>rain comes, and then once I'm done, I needed to downpour.

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 2>And because I had to get some shots of that. Yeah,

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened. Yeah, And we went back out there

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 2>to shoot his EP and meanwhile we're leaving and I'm like,

0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>I'd called my cinematographer friend in LA. He's like, I

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 2>mean did stuff with like Gray's Anatomy, Like he's insane.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't get back to me because I was like,

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to be sure I was doing the

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 2>shutter ray everything right. And he calls me after we're

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 2>done and I was like, please tell me that this

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was right. He goes, That's exactly what I would have

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>told you to do. I was like, thank God, because

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.639
<v Speaker 2>I was like I got all this lightning and I

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, I can't recreate this if this happened, like

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I needed this tork right And it did.

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 1>And that was kind of your first real video to

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>direct all by yourself.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, very first.

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And it goes to number one on CMT and you

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get nominated for a CMT Music Video of the Year award.

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, what is that? Yeah? It was crazy.

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 2>In my first video, I edited the whole thing like

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:37.960
<v Speaker 2>it was all in all in house, right? Is that

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Allerson house? So you and Russell are kind of like y'all.

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what's so cool about y'all. Y'all are so self

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 2>made as a team too.

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's obviously the artist with the music, but

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you are visually creating.

0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 2>When he shows me songs and new demos like I

0:26:53.320 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>see the video and Blue Takomo was one of my

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>favorite that made you just feel like that, like the

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>drone looks and everything you're on a piece. I was like,

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I just want everyone to feel like they're there, like

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>they took this road triple with us. I don't want

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 2>other people in it. I wanted to feel like we're

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>in our own world, and I feel like we did

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:11.440
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>So I brought that brother in to direct with me

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:16.439
<v Speaker 1>on this one because I was like, I don't know

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>how to do all the permits and stuff.

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:19.879
<v Speaker 2>You're kidding me. It's like a road trip. There was

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 2>so many places we needed permits and all the legal

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.919
<v Speaker 2>stuff really sucks to joy on creativity, right, And he

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 2>had he had done a Mercedes commercial and so he

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>used those same Drone guys on this, so he had

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>all the connections of who he wanted. So it was

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it was pretty great. Yeah, and that one also made

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>it number one on Safty. I mean, it's crazy. So

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 2>you guys, Okay, Okay, this is what I.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Love about you guys too, because I feel like for

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>eight years or so, y'all were praying for success, right or.

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>How long was it? Gosh, well, really since we got married,

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>which was five and a half years ago. But he's

0:27:56.240 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 2>been at this since we graduated. He signed his first

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>publishing deal in two thousand. When did we graduate college?

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Twenty eleven? Okay, so he's been at this for eight years.

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>So eight years of waiting, of believing, of preparing, planning seeds.

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I just talked into my coffee on that way, Hey,

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I like it yeah, and then all of a sudden,

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 2>all this hard work just like overflows and pays off.

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:26.160
<v Speaker 2>And was it like one year that it all happened? Yeah?

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>And when was the year? Was it two thousand? Fears

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>went number one? Like a week ago? Last year? This

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.440
<v Speaker 2>last to like a year ago? So year a week

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>ago eighteen was y'all's year. Yeah, that was everything was

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like we got our first bus. We're not driving a

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>van anymore, Praise God. First bus two number one, like

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a CMT nom he was nominated for ACMs Wild and

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 2>iHeart New Artists. That's yeah. Has that happened yet? No?

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Not yet.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I know on awesome tours towards Lady Ance

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Malcom or somewhere else. We were friends so spoiled with tours, Like,

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>how is that because Charles and Cassie of Lady A Yes,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>my my people, how is that touring with some of

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>your besties? We've only toured with our besties, okay, so,

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>which we didn't know is like rare so Thomas, Rhett Thomas, Rhete,

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Florida Georgia Line and Lady Antebella.

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>That's truly our best friends in the industry. Partially so

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>tr threw us a bone, like he was like, this

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>guy's gonna be someone. Just trust me because he asked

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>him on tour. Oh gosh, when was that? It was

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>not this last year, the year before that before Yours

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even on the radio. We didn't even ever read.

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He just gave him a shot. Yeah, and he had

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 2>seen the video. We showed it to them and him

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and Tyler. We showed Tyler and Hayley, Tyler Hubbard and yes,

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 2>and Tyler was like, you guys got to show tr

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the video, like you got to show him, and so

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 2>we showed him, and tr never heard Russ sing and

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, dude, but we all were friends with them.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>You never heard him sing yet. No, this was like

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>this was right when we shot the video as Tyler

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Hubbard's wedding. That's how long ago this was, Okay, So

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 2>that was I think a year after we got married.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 2>So this is like four or five.

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Years ago, okay, because he released Yours four years before

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it went number one, and he released it with the

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>video That's bad.

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been around, that's a life. Yeah, so that

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>far back and tr saw it and then shortly after

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 2>he saw his like streams were climbing and then asked

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>him on tour and he told me.

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>First we were playing darts after freaking see him tea

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>something at some Barred Green Hills. He's like, can I

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>tell you something?

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>It was like what He's like, I'm gonna ask Russ

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 2>on tour and I was like, like freaking out and

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.239
<v Speaker 2>he was like, you can't tell him though, I was like, well,

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>why'd you tell me? I was like, this is the

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 2>meanest thing you've ever done to me, But I said

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was supposed to keep this a secret.

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, no, no, absolutely not, Like I

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>don't keep secrets from him one two, I don't keep

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>really great things from him, Like what did you do?

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I made him tell him by the end of the night, Okay,

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, tiar has something he'd like to tell you.

0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Russell was so great. We were aut with Ryan Hurd

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and Kelsey Ballerini and tr Oh my god, it was

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 2>just like a It was so it was like so young.

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 1>First of all, everyone was under thirty I'm pretty sure, yeah,

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and just a blast patrick touring life.

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then we went out with Fgo and then

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 2>did some more shows with Thomas Rhett and then lady A,

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 2>so tell me what you have gathered from being on tour.

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 2>What is tour life like for you?

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>And what have you learned from being on tour with

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>all of these people who are your besties and friends

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>and then also you know colleagues.

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>It's more of a family than you would imagine, and

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>especially now because Tier and Lauren have two children and

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 2>you were a big party you went to Africa. Yeah, Lauren, Yeah,

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 2>when she was getting wille Gray, yep, I documented that

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>whole process for her and just so they would have it.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they'll do or but a lot

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of people wanted to document it, and she was like,

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 2>it's way too personal. She was like I need you there,

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>and she told me on a Thursday or Wednesday, and

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 2>we were leaving the next Wednesday. She was like will

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>you come? And I was like, uh sure, and I go.

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I go to get my shots and Vanderblt wouldn't give

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>them to me. They're like, you need these ten days out.

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I didn't know it's going to

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Africa until like now, so I don't know what you

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 2>want me to do seven days. Yeah, I was like,

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I need a Yellow card and they're like, we won't

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>do it, and I was like, what the heck's So

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 2>they gave me a whole list of places and I

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>don't anything. I was like, god, I need you to

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>tell me what I want to call like. I was like,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't have time for this, and all of a sudden,

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>this one I just like that one. Just it just

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 2>was like a feeling. And I call and they're like, sorry,

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 2>we're not doing this today. We're something and she was like,

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 2>let me take your name and I'll call you tomorrow.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>And so like Kaylee Dickerson and she goes, wait a second,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>what's your husband's name? Are you serious? Yeah? And I

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>was like Russell. She goes, can I call you right back?

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>And I was like sure. So she calls me back

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and she was like, Okay, you can come in today anytime.

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Are they super fan? Yeah? I guess. I was like

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>excuse me what and she goes, I took care of it,

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>so fan like, I'll get you in, Oh my gosh.

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like thank you. So I got it.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 2>And then that day we flew to Thomas Rhet's birthday

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas. It was ACM's and Lauren was like she

0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>mind you. They were like, this could make you sick.

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>It's the yellow fever shot or something you can make

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you have that's what she was also

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>super pregnant. Yes, this is also when she was pregnant. Yes,

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>and they thought they couldn't have kids. So that's a

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>miracle in itself. Yeah, oh it's amazing. So they're like,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.520
<v Speaker 2>it could make you sick. And she leaves the room

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, not in Jesus name, I'm not

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>getting sick. I was like, you can't get sick. No.

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>So I go to Vegas and I was like, Lauren,

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I got my shot. Everything's cool, and she was like,

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>how do you feel? I was like fine. She was like,

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>this is the the shot Tyler got that made him

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>miss an award show that Tom's Raight had to sub

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>for him because he actually like had the flu from it.

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, I'm great. It doesn't make

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 2>everyone sick like Cassie Kelly just got it. I was like,

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>how you feel. She's like great, But because she's in

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Africa right now, right or on her way? Yeah, do y'

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>all go to the same place. I know Lauren is

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>taking a trip to just kind of bring people into

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing with Love One and show them how

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>they're changing all these kids' lives. And it's incredible what

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 2>they're doing. And so I've been there, I've seen it.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 2>I tried to go this year. I wanted to go,

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 2>but it was overlapping the tour. And it's his first

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 2>headlining tour, which is also amazing.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>It's co headlining with Carly, our girl Carly Pears, and

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.600
<v Speaker 1>they both have a rustled to be soon hit yea

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>every little thing, which is saronic that they both have,

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>like a huge They thought about calling the tour that

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 1>they went back and forth.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe do a mashup. I don't know, but it's

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a quick little tour. It's only four weeks.

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Has that been as a headlining insane because it's going

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>from all these tours of your friend's collies all that, like, oh, he.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Has dreamt of this for so long and in his

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>mind like he designed the lights, like he he had

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>it all up here and just was like, go talk

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>to me about how it's going. What's the response been?

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>It is insane? Like he'll finish blue to coma. I

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>cried first of all the first night because they were

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>singing every little thing so loud, so loud, and I

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>was like, this isn't even like top forty, I don't think.

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I was like, what is going on? And I just,

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean I looked around. I was like, I'm not

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the only one here, because there's plenty of shows. I

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>was really the only one. Thing like, and I would

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>just stand up there once. I remember specifically in Georgia

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.439
<v Speaker 2>and my brother was there and the boys had set

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 2>everything up sound checked, and then no one cared, like

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>no one. It was a pool haul and it was

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>just me, my brother and sister in law and we.

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Just stood up there like dance like crazy people because

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>we're like we're sorry.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 2>No one else is here, you know. And so I

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 2>looked out and there was like over two thousand people. Wow,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 2>And I was like just I mean, just to come

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 2>from nothing to that, just the feeling that you have

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>to feel. I'm so grateful. Hard work, yeah, leave, the persistence,

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 2>the faith. It makes you grateful. You're not you don't

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 2>resent it. You're not like, oh, we're going. There are

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 2>plenty of people who are like, oh, we have to

0:36:01.160 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 2>go to this station, Da da da, and we are

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 2>like we get to go like, you know how long

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 2>we prayed to have a conversation on radio, Like are

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 2>you kidding me? So? I think the grind and the

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 2>hustle is lends itself to so much more gratitude than

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 2>anything else can. Absolutely, it's not nothing against anyone who

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 2>was given to you, but like it's just not going

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>to lend itself to being really grateful because it is.

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 2>It takes a lot out of you. It is it.

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>It is brutal, and you have to like love this

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 2>with your entire heart. You can't half love it. You can't.

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>You'll just get you won't make it, and maybe you do,

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and then you resent it and then it's just that's

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 2>not a way to live. I interviewed Jesse Alexander a

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.719
<v Speaker 2>while ago. She's a huge songwriter and awesome and I

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>love her. I love her so much.

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And we were talking about just the grind and you know,

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:51.759
<v Speaker 1>being in the music industry, and she was like, everybody

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 1>will get humbled at some point, you know, And so

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just like some people come in and they're huge

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's like instant, but like everybody is going to

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>get humbled because you just it's a part of it's

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:04.759
<v Speaker 1>a part of life.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:05.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a part of the journey.

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>And so like you're saying, to have had all those

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>years of grinding to know what it feels like to

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have no one at the shows, to you know, to

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>still have your faith for it, it makes it so

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>sweet and.

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 2>You will always just have this appreciation to be there.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Yes, yes and amen. We said that

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>the other day of how Oh. Someone was just talking

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 2>about like artists comparing themselves to each other and feeling

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 2>like there's enough room at the table, right, And I

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 2>was like, we learned that lesson in a very quiet

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>place because Rust actually turned down the deal FGL took

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and we watched them blow up in front of our faces,

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and at first we were like, dang it, did we

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 2>make a mistake? But that was never our deal and

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.400
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't have worked for him because we didn't have cruise.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.160
<v Speaker 2>They had cruise. Like just as simple as that is

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 2>that the XM radio deal, No, it was. They're like

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>publishing kind of label dealers at the time, and still

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>they still are with it's big loud. Oh yeah, and

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Russ had turned it down and we were like, ooh,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>did we make a mistake Because nothing's happening for us,

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and like we learned that was theirs and there's no comparison,

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>there's no you cannot be like we chose to celebrate

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>them and cheer them on, and I feel like that

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 2>is such a pivotal and I think that's why he

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 2>has what he has, in my opinion, because he will

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>champion everyone around him. He's not mad when someone gets

0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 2>something he wants that. He's been through that and we

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>we just did that in a quiet place. We went

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 2>through it so that now we're not ruining relationships because

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 2>there are some people who like kind of you know,

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>they're just not as welcoming or they think that they

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>have to upstage or whatever, and we're like, there's room

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 2>at the table.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I love what you're saying because like in a different way,

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm kind of a career wise, and then also

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>like I've on a big pregnancy journey and like we

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>miscarriage and like we tried for a long time to

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>get pregnant and it didn't happen. And it's just like

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I chose from the beginning that I was always going

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to be happy to support my friends who were having

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>success and babies because exactly like you're saying, it is

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>so easy to want to feel sorry for yourself, to

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>get upset, to be angry at the situation. And same

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 1>with like music career, Like something can go so great

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>for you and then fall apart, and and it's like,

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to let your you can feel sad

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and upset for yourself, But to not be able to

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>celebrate other people, I.

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Feel like it's such a.

0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>You're missing out, You really miss out on joys of

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>life because yours will come, you know, totally, it will come.

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 2>It might only come if you choose to celebrate other people. Yeah,

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 2>it only come that way.

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 1>And just like when you see people who like it

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>can be hard sometimes because you can be in a

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 1>really hard season of life and everyone else can be

0:39:59.080 --> 0:40:01.440
<v Speaker 1>totally flourishing around you. But still it's like you have

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>to have that faith that what's for you will be

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>for you and celebrate other people.

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I love that you said that because that is something.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I have just been noticing and thinking about all the time,

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>because when you are in a hard season, you want

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to feel sad sometimes, but you're like, no, this.

0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 2>Is bigger than me, and totally someone else getting something

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:25.359
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean you won't exactly why is that? I don't everyone, Well,

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>that's part of the problem with thinking like there's not enough,

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>right that God is He's infinite, Yeah, literally infinite. So

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 2>what he has him giving one thing to something.

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not out of it now yet he's not running

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>sure stockhold is not depleting like it's He is infinite,

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.240
<v Speaker 1>like it never ends, like it's all good.

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 2>You know. And I think you have to realize that

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 2>and believe it in order to celebrate other people. I

0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 2>agree the secret to life celebrating other people a then

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>to that, I think it is I love that.

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>So how do you Okay, So when y'all were in

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>a period where it wasn't going however you turned down

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity, how did you deal with it privately?

0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And how did you Was that a decision that you

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 2>made or was it just like how did you work

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 2>through that? I think we kind of ran towards it

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 2>instead of like backing away from our friendships. We ran

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 2>straight to the heart of it and we got nothing

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>but closer with Tyler and Haley, and I mean we

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 2>would go to their beautiful home and then come back

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to our little duplex that we were renting, you know,

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and there were plenty of opportunities to be jealous or

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, want what your neighbor has, but we're like, no,

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.840
<v Speaker 2>we're going to love the crap out of them and

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna be best friend. And it changed our front.

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>There are some of our sweetest dearest, they're some of

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 2>the greatest people on the planet on the planet, Like,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 2>they're just wonderful people. And if we would have let

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>that come between us and resentment or whatever, which I'm

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 2>sure he doesn't even if he heard this, he'd be like,

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>what that was hard for you guys? We've never even

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 2>talked about it, Yeah, because it truly we we just

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 2>ran towards it. Yeah, instead of being shying away. Yeah,

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 2>like we're gonna love them, We're just gonna love them.

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I really admire that, I really do, kay, because that

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>is such an incredible trait to have, and it shows

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>how much faith you have and how loving you are

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>as a human, because that that's one of the hardest things.

0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what is it Like it's it's just one

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of the seven deadly sins or whatever, and it's like

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it happens.

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>To everyone, especially in this industry.

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why navigating it in the way that you

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>guys have chosen to navigate it with faith, with love,

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>with you know, just working on your self and your

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>art and celebrating everyone else like that is really inspiring.

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh thanks. It really is not always been easy, but

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>it's it's worth it. It is so worth it. And

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 2>then look at your joyful life, you know, just trying

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 2>to be like unicorns and rainbows over here.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 1>He makes it pretty easy. Talk to me about Europe

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.759
<v Speaker 1>because y'all on a big Europe trip. Yes, we went

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to Magical speaking of and you said that you were

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>thinking Paris might let you down, but it didn't.

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it did not. I thought it was going to

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.320
<v Speaker 2>be hyped because you have this like imagination and this

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 2>like picture. I was like, Oh, it's going to be

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 2>so romantic and it's going to be this and that. Granted,

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 2>I've come to learn weather determines if I like a city. Okay,

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>so like we went to Amsterdam on this same trip,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 2>but it was rainy and it was cold and I

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>was getting kind of sick and I need to go

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>back because, yeah, I didn't love it because of that,

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 2>weren't feeling great now it was someone we know. When

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 2>they were in Paris it was like that, so they

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't love it. When we were there, it was like

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 2>seventy every day and sunny, like high of seventy, so

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>it was like fall, like early fall, and it was incredible.

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.640
<v Speaker 2>It was incredible. Did you eat? Did you eat incredible?

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 2>What did you have? Pasta every day? Yes? Like everything?

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Cruticize yeah, mac macrools. I don't even know, but we

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 2>don't speak French.

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.320
<v Speaker 1>So the secret, I will say, The secret is trying,

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:01.719
<v Speaker 1>because you know, have a like French people are so rude,

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.040
<v Speaker 1>they hate us, baba, So we would walk around and

0:44:04.120 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>be like do they hate us, do they love us?

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Do they hate us? And if you try to communicate

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 2>in French, they will be more welcoming to you. That's

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 2>what we learned. So how would you speak to them?

0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Probably English? We'd be like do you speak English in French?

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And then they would be like yes, and then they're

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>more likely to be kind to you, because it's like

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 2>if you walking in and being like, hey, can I

0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>get assuming they speak English? Some Americans. Yeah, I think

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>that's why, because we just assume they know our language.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Like what if someone was French walked up to you

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and just started. You'd be like, excuse me, Like do

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I look French? Like I'm not French? Yeah, yeah, but

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>the food was crazy. We did per Cassie Kelly's recommendation.

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.880
<v Speaker 2>She has like everywhere. You just text her and you're like, hey,

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm going here. She sends you an entire note of

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 2>every location, every restaurant, keep notes on everything. Yes, every city.

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 2>She's incredible goals. I call her the first Lady of

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>con Yes, she's so fashionable. She like knows how. She

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 2>like accidentally flips houses, like she goes in and makes

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 2>them so fabulous that people come over and they're like,

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm buying your house and then she has to do

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>it all over again. And her style is just impeccable,

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 2>perfect every time. That's just who she is. It just

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 2>oozes out of it is I know, and she just

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 2>loves lady fabulous. But she knows and she calls everything fabulous,

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 2>which is my favorite.

0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I like it never used that word until I was

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.360
<v Speaker 1>r on Cassie and I'll be like, it's fabulous because

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that's what she does.

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>She's just the best. But she has entire lists of

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 2>every city. I started putting them in Yelp. So I'm

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like trying to find a way. I don't know. There's

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>probably a better way to do this, so comment if

0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you know one. But I want to start having like

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 2>booklets or whatever lists in yelp Okay to share I love.

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's a thing, but I started

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 2>putting hers in there and like the ones we liked,

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and started writing reviews and trying to have different cities

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 2>that I could be like, hey, go because then when

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 2>you're going to Paris, I don't know if you can

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 2>do this, but you could go to my profile, right

0:46:00.920 --> 0:46:03.959
<v Speaker 2>your Yelp profile, and then see what I've saved, yeah,

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and then be like, oh, that one's kind of close

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 2>to us because with her list, I have to yelp

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone to know where it is, okay and find it,

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 2>And so I've started like putting them into it. She'll

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 2>take her list verbatim. We went to at least three

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>of the places she recommended, and they're all just fabulous,

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.719
<v Speaker 2>as she would say, yeah, one of them. We spent

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.280
<v Speaker 2>the most money we've ever spent on a meal, truly. Truly.

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 2>It was right after Blue to Coomo went number one.

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Gotta celebrate. Oh yeah, so we hadn't done like a

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:35.320
<v Speaker 2>big celebration dinner. So we did this eight core stop something.

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:38.400
<v Speaker 2>What'd you eat? Everything was soft. It's a funny thing

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 2>about the French. I'm like, do they not have teeth?

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Like everything is soft, It's like moose grus like everything. Okay. Yeah.

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, if I'm gonna do these things, you're

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna I'm gonna do them here so that I know

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.279
<v Speaker 1>it's good for I like them or don't. That's good

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:52.680
<v Speaker 1>because an.

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>American version, who knows, they could be totally messing. I

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have said that. I should be more open minded. Well,

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 2>everything like they had s cargo and every little every

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>teeny tiny portion was it all. It was like a

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 2>little quail wing. It was like this big and it

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 2>was like the meat was like that, and you just

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>it was cute. Yeah, and then all these desserts and

0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 2>wine pairings. It was crazy. It was crazy some of it.

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Some of it.

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I could use a little crunch, But

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 2>that's what like crazy, all these teeny tiny mooses soups,

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 2>And that's why everyone's so teeny tiny in France. You think,

0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>are they I don't know, I don't know. That they aren't.

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't think I noticed everything made fatty.

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Everything was fatty. It's like real food. I don't feel

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 2>like it's so much processed. True. And we had an

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:46.839
<v Speaker 2>Italian meal there that they wheeled out a whole thing

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>of parmesan and they like scraped it and lit it

0:47:49.719 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 2>on fire and like tossed my pasta in it. Did

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you die? Oh? It was one of the best, and you, like,

0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel that hour was like just behind Russell's head.

0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.839
<v Speaker 2>We were in this little alley. What is life right now?

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Honestly I would go back anytime. It was the last

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.279
<v Speaker 2>place I wanted to go before we start talking about

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 2>having kids, because I was like, I want to go

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 2>to Paris. So we're talking about having kids, we're talking

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.160
<v Speaker 2>about it, Okay, we're talking about Hey, I like the

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 2>kid combo. Oh yeah, we're working on it. Well, we're

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 2>always working on it. But we've been married five years

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 2>and that was my like I want five years of

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>just us. Yeah. I love that because I wanted to

0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>know just if if anything comes whatever, like I know

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.439
<v Speaker 2>what us is so strong intrinsically is that the right word.

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, just such a foundation that I know

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.360
<v Speaker 2>who we are, that you can feel if it changes.

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I totally get that. I've been together now ten years.

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Yes, we had a two year break in between, but

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.719
<v Speaker 1>like two years two years, I don't think I knew that.

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I knew that we had a nice little break in between.

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>That's like not even a break, that's like a breakup.

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 1>That is a breakup.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 2>We were on a break. We broke up. I moved

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 2>cities and states and like, I didn't know if we're

0:48:58.400 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 2>going to get back together.

0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, weren't even tech or something. Yeah, then yeah, moved

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to Austin and uh. But I feel like that same way.

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:07.920
<v Speaker 1>We have been through so much like I've been with

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 1>him since he was twenty one years old.

0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I was twenty four. I'm older and we were the

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>flip Okay, so I was twenty one, Russ was twenty three.

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I think, Okay, when we started dating, I personally for

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:20.800
<v Speaker 2>me and every story is different.

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad to have gone through all of this

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 1>lies and developing together same even though it has been

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>like the brokest y'all have been in a lot of

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 1>the wilds same but also most exciting phases you could

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>ever be in. Because I'm like, okay, we have survived

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:41.080
<v Speaker 1>so much, like we have lived through all these things

0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that I know now when we bring a child into

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>this world, like you are saying, I know who we

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 1>are through and through, Like there's there's nothing you could

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>tell me about Michael, nothing, nothing that could shock me.

0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Same, you know, we're so I know him better probably

0:49:58.040 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 2>than I even know.

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Myself, honestly, because I've around him and he needs me

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>better than I know myself.

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.

0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Like we know how to fight with each other now,

0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 1>like learning all that fighting nice. You gotta fight nice,

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 1>gotta fight.

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Nice, because in the beginning we weren't perfect at fighting

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 2>me I wasn't. It's a learned Fighting is a learned skill. Okay,

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 2>So how did you guys learn how to fight? How

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 2>do y'all fighting? We It is a learned skill. Yeah,

0:50:25.640 --> 0:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>it really is. And involve respect, plea do not. I

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.800
<v Speaker 2>think he was so afraid of commitment, which shocks a

0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of people, because thank god, I'm yours right, But

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>he was so afraid of commitment that I had to

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 2>learn how to fight with him really gracefully, okay, and

0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 2>really more so just disagreeing, and we couldn't have big

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:50.440
<v Speaker 2>fights because that would freak him out. Okay, so I

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of learned, probably a bad trait, to like stuff

0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 2>it and find a way to I would sleep on it,

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 2>and I would find a way to say it kindly

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 2>in the morning or like, but take I'm really stuffing

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 2>it for a long time. No, no, no, I couldn't

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:07.439
<v Speaker 2>stuff it for too long. But take ownership, like really

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>zoom out of the situation because I wasn't as emotional

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the next day. It's actually very wise. Yeah, well I

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 2>had to o wise I would it wouldn't work. Yeah,

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:19.040
<v Speaker 2>and be like, all right, this is what I've done

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.600
<v Speaker 2>wrong and I know that, and this is what you did,

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 2>and that really hurt my feelings. Anything we disagree or whatever,

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 2>it's usually he hurt my feelings, Okay, we don't. I

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 2>don't ever really get mad at him. I got mad

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 2>at him one time, specifically recently. So probably more times

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>that I've just forgotten, but this one time kind of recently. Yes,

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I came home, I'd asked him to do the laundry,

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 2>put away the laundry because he wanted to go work

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 2>out and I love working out. I'm choosing my my

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking life over this, I actually hate it, okay,

0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:50.160
<v Speaker 2>but I'm choosing to start saying I love working out

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:54.160
<v Speaker 2>because I'm hoping I get there, So you love I

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 2>love working out. It's my favorite. If he could hear

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 2>this right now, he'd be dying because he's like always

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.360
<v Speaker 2>convincing me. He's like, I'll make you coffee if we

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.759
<v Speaker 2>go work out. So in this scenario, he wanted to

0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 2>work out and I was like, sure, but I need

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>you to do this because I don't have enough time

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 2>in the day to do this and get ready for

0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:12.320
<v Speaker 2>a bus call and I have a birthday party tonight.

0:52:12.400 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>So while I'm at the birthday party, I am I

0:52:14.800 --> 0:52:16.400
<v Speaker 2>need you to do this laundry. And it was just

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 2>putting things on hangers and I prime now more hangers

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 2>because we were running low, gave him all of the tools.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 2>It's already all right, stage was set. I come home,

0:52:27.160 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 2>The hangers are in the prime now bags by the door.

0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:31.759
<v Speaker 2>All the clothes are still out here, and he was

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>playing video games in the basement. I'm telling you, I

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 2>think that's I think that's guys. I lost my ever

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.359
<v Speaker 2>loving mind, Like did you kind of blow up? Oh? Yeah?

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Is this the anything? No? Okay, well, yeah, yeah, I

0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.600
<v Speaker 2>guess I was just so so angry because I was like,

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I do everything for us. Oh, like, I asked you

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 2>for help once, which is if you do any nyagram,

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 2>what are you? I am a three three two two

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 2>three chiever helper, yes, So like this was my two

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 2>wing freaking out because because now you're two wings in

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 2>a prime house, right, So like I always help him,

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.359
<v Speaker 2>always have helped him. But that's what you love, right,

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 2>I love it. But I asked for help, and he

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.839
<v Speaker 2>is a seven. That's what Michael is. As the day

0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.040
<v Speaker 2>is long, Michael's straight seven best day of his life

0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:18.640
<v Speaker 2>every day wakes up, has enough energy to do everything.

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I feel like seven are the happiest people. They're really

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>happy people. I know Michael's a seven too, and I'm

0:53:22.960 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>just like, thank god you could be. No, I'm a four.

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 2>I am an emotional what I bet you have a

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 2>strong three ring wing though, yes, you're an achiever, but

0:53:31.280 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>that is achieving.

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I am a four, A four four four. I just

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.160
<v Speaker 1>live in my emotions and thank god I'm married to seven. Yeah,

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>else I would just be at the bottom of three seven.

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure four seven. It is like it's like the

0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:47.959
<v Speaker 1>perfect tip oh. I like that, like in achieving, because

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I have the achiever and he has the dreamer. And

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like, let's do this.

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:56.240
<v Speaker 2>We're unstoppable, let's go okay, and he has the energy

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>that keeps me going. Yes, this whole thing. Ok So, anyway,

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 2>my two wing, you're too. So when when they're in stress,

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:04.880
<v Speaker 2>they go to eight. So I like, I blew up,

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't like him, actually blow up, but I

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>just started cleaning and being loud, and he's like, I

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 2>got it. I was like, clearly you don't like I was.

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:17.919
<v Speaker 2>I was so bad. And he never plays video games.

0:54:18.120 --> 0:54:20.279
<v Speaker 2>You're like of all the days, like you never, He's

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:22.640
<v Speaker 2>not that guy because I when he wanted to get

0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:25.160
<v Speaker 2>an Xbox I was like gross, Like I think guys

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 2>who like are obsessed with video games. It's so unattractive

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 2>to huh. And I was like, do you really want

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to be unattractive to me? Like that's how I pitched it.

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And he was like, but for him, I'm actually glad

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>he has it because he never plays it, and if

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 2>he does, it's because he's actually so exhausted that he

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 2>needs something to shut his mind off. Loys will keep

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.800
<v Speaker 2>dreaming and keep brainstorming. And he never he never.

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Sits and stops. Yeah, and so it makes him sit

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and stop. So he really never does that ever.

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And so like I was like, of all the days,

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I was so so that one end we went to

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 2>bed angry. Which did he defend his video games? Oh no, no,

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.000
<v Speaker 2>he knew, he knew he was definitely wrong. Yeah. Well

0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 2>at one point he didn't like jump up and start

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:11.920
<v Speaker 2>hanging things up. Oh yeah, he rose to the occasion,

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, no, forget it, I've got late,

0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 2>too late.

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I go to sleep mad, which I said

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:23.239
<v Speaker 1>this recently on another podcast that I I think that's

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the things in the Bible that I'm like,

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I disagree with you because it says like, don't let

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the sun go down on your anger.

0:55:28.800 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 2>But mind you, this one was already down first of all,

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 2>and I just have a clear head in the morning. Well,

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it's better not to fight when you're enrage. Oh you know.

0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I have learned that about myself because like I get

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 1>activated kind of easily. I've worked on it a lot,

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of therapy, a lot of like self realization

0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 1>that like anger is never a good thing. So if

0:55:46.960 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel angry and hot. That is not the time

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk about something. No, it is definitely not the time.

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.920
<v Speaker 2>No. And what is it. It's like there's an acronym.

0:55:56.000 --> 0:56:00.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like, not when you're hungry, tired, halt halt, hungry, angry, alone, tired, angry,

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:04.000
<v Speaker 2>lonely tired. Yeah, and I was tired. I was exhausted.

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 2>It was like the week of every Christmas party, every everything.

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 2>We had just come off the road. We'd hosted two

0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 2>huge things at our house and I was like, I

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.239
<v Speaker 2>am done. I have nothing left. And that's when I

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:18.239
<v Speaker 2>was like, I asked for help once, which I asked

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 2>for help all the time. I was just so dramatic.

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you go, I was like, you're not allowed to

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:23.279
<v Speaker 2>not help me.

0:56:23.840 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 4>I help you always like speaking totally crazy and it happens,

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 4>so oh yeah, you know it does sometimes you It's

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 4>like in the I did that a bunch in this podcast.

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, hey, I hack all the time. I'm just sipping

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 2>my coffee. But I think that is one of the

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 2>great things about marriage is learning each other.

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, learning your breaking points, learning how to navigate those

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:52.879
<v Speaker 1>situations and not getting lost in them, not thinking it's

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the end of the world.

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.439
<v Speaker 2>It's just a moment. And the next morning, the next morning,

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 2>it was so cute, he gave me a card and everything. Okay,

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.880
<v Speaker 2>because I've never actually, I don't think i've ever actually

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 2>been mad at him, and that was the first time.

0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>And this is like five years in Wow, so this

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 2>was this was a moment. Oh, this was a moment. Yeah,

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:11.759
<v Speaker 2>And the cards say it was just like, thank you

0:57:11.920 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 2>so much for everything you do for our family. I

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 2>love you so much. I'm so sorry, you know.

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, this is maybe the cute.

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I should get mad at you more often, like this

0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 1>is so cute. I really don't get mad at him.

0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>It's mostly my feelings are hurt or I feel because

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty I feel like I'm pretty good at recognizing

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>I feel lonely. So instead of like doing something to

0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 2>pull him in, like and getting upset about something so

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 2>he comes close, I just I just tell him, yeah,

0:57:37.120 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I need more of you. I haven't seen

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:41.919
<v Speaker 2>you enough. I feel like I'm in the background. What's

0:57:41.960 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 2>your love language? Quality time? Okay? And so, which is

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 2>also why I kind of have to be on the road,

0:57:47.480 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 2>uh huh, because otherwise I I don't know I'm not

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 2>words of ath I don't need. In that scenario, I

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:57.400
<v Speaker 2>guess I would have been acts of service. Yeah, but yeah,

0:57:57.440 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I just like being around him. And most of the

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 2>time I can just be in the same orbit and

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:04.520
<v Speaker 2>we don't have to be alone. But sometimes I do need,

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 2>just like I need just you and me. Let's go

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 2>for a walk. You're saying going for a walk is

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:11.960
<v Speaker 2>like a key to happy marriage. It's tell me some

0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>of your keys to happy marriage walks, Okay, sex, I

0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:17.400
<v Speaker 2>agree with that.

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Too, Like some people aren't about that, but like, I

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>mean I totally agree with that on a very regular basis.

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, oh, we bonded over this. We have we're

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a team, like try for every day. I mean, well,

0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I maybe it's that seven who's just happy to go

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 2>looking and enjoys all the things in life.

0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>But Michael is like down every day, same with us.

0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 1>And if it's yeah, and so I'm just like, Okay,

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 1>why would I fight this?

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:44.240
<v Speaker 2>A Because it's fun and B it's cheaper than therapy,

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 2>cheaper than therapy, and it keeps you so connected. Yes,

0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>it really does.

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 1>If that drifts apart, ever, which ours never has, because yeah,

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I just decided one day, I was like, I'm gonna

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 1>make this a priority.

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Same and we're like I heard it somewhere. Girls are

0:58:57.840 --> 0:59:00.200
<v Speaker 2>like crock pots and men are like microwaves. Have you

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 2>ever heard that? No, that like our like our sexual

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 2>everything is more of a slow, steady, all day kind

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:09.960
<v Speaker 2>of a thing. Yes. Yeah, So like if they flirt

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 2>with us all day and they but you just like

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 2>kiss a guy for two seconds and they're like we're done,

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Like we're ready, you know, we're more We're it's all

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 2>mixed together. We can't like separate, like if you were

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 2>jerk early in the morning, we still feel that at night.

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Like it's guys are not as much like that.

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely in my experience, I agree, And so yeah, if

0:59:31.880 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I in my if I set my crock pot to

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:38.000
<v Speaker 1>low in the morning, like Mike mentally, then when it

0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 1>comes time whenever we do, I'm like, yeah, I've been

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.480
<v Speaker 1>thinking about it, I've been processing, and it makes me

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>be open and I can't stuff things because if that's

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, we're gonna have had a conversation.

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:53.720
<v Speaker 2>If I'm upset about something, Absolutely it makes me communicate,

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 2>makes him really sentimental and sweet all the time. Yeah,

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean not all the time, but honestly a lot.

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's no. I think having a healthy sexual

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:07.560
<v Speaker 2>relationship keeps your relationship. Yeah, healthy. I feel like it's

1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 2>like insurance for your marriage. Okay, wait, that's great. Tell

1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 2>me what, tell me what that means? I don't know.

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it helps make you invincible, Like

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you're becoming your intentionally you are one as a married couple,

1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 2>but you're choosing to be one and just reiterating over

1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.800
<v Speaker 2>and over, we are one, we are one. Yeah, And

1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:30.240
<v Speaker 2>I think it's great. I love that. I agree. Hey, sex,

1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Hi five great marriage, sex, great marriage, walks, going for walk?

1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I love a good walk. You get your communication, you

1:00:36.320 --> 1:00:40.280
<v Speaker 2>get I like to say the shoulder to shoulder men

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:43.520
<v Speaker 2>communicate better shoulder to shoulder than face to face. Okay,

1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and I get that in my experience, and I've read

1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>it somewhere I can't remember. Super interesting, like girls are

1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:52.479
<v Speaker 2>like let's get coffee. That's like sick. Yeah, Like we're

1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:54.640
<v Speaker 2>doing this, Like guys, if they were doing this podcast,

1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>they'd be like this, yeah, because they're more open by

1:00:58.520 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 2>way totally. And so we go for so much. So

1:01:02.320 --> 1:01:04.880
<v Speaker 2>we go for a walk, and he just dreams and

1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:08.920
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it too. We'll pray while we walk because

1:01:08.920 --> 1:01:10.640
<v Speaker 2>you're not just like sitting for laying in bed, and

1:01:10.680 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 2>you're like in Jesus name, amen, it's I love that

1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.120
<v Speaker 2>you're It's more conversational. It's like, God, we pray for

1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:20.440
<v Speaker 2>this friend who has cancer, Like we say, no, she's

1:01:20.480 --> 1:01:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a snave. Yeah, you know, like we're praying. We'll pray

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 2>for this person's marriage or I don't know. It's more conversational.

1:01:26.280 --> 1:01:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't end. I love that. It's great wine wine.

1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Also that leads to the great sex part.

1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Just to be honest, not too much though. Yes, yes,

1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:45.320
<v Speaker 1>he is a little whino I call him. Why is

1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that like a negative term?

1:01:46.480 --> 1:01:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just like it's a thing now. It's even

1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:49.840
<v Speaker 2>on his apps. He just puts his wine glasses and

1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, it's terrifying. He doesn't do the

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:56.840
<v Speaker 2>thin ones. Just to reassure everyone who gets terrified it's

1:01:56.840 --> 1:01:59.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna break into his mouth if they're like really fine ones.

1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:02.320
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't, Okay, does certain consistency, Yeah, it has to

1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:06.240
<v Speaker 2>be like semi indestructible. Yeah, okay, but it's never too

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:12.960
<v Speaker 2>taugh whatever. I mean, I love it. Yeah, he he

1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:18.400
<v Speaker 2>like the SOMN documentaries if you ever watched those somm Yes, yeah,

1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:22.680
<v Speaker 2>for Becoming a Master Somlier And it's a documentary. There's

1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:25.840
<v Speaker 2>three of them now, of these people trying to be masters,

1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and it is wild, like they have to blind taste

1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:31.240
<v Speaker 2>three wides, three reds, say what year they are, where

1:02:31.240 --> 1:02:34.840
<v Speaker 2>they're from, and there's hundreds right or thousands of wines yeah,

1:02:34.960 --> 1:02:38.720
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, and regions and there's only I think there's

1:02:38.800 --> 1:02:41.280
<v Speaker 2>less than one hundred masters in the world. So the

1:02:41.360 --> 1:02:44.280
<v Speaker 2>first documentary is really cool watching that process because it's

1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:46.200
<v Speaker 2>like you have to be a savant, like this is

1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:48.000
<v Speaker 2>not a normal person's skill set.

1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:02:48.880 --> 1:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>The funny part about it is we watched the first

1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:53.520
<v Speaker 2>one when it came out on our TV and our

1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:56.760
<v Speaker 2>old apartment living next to Miss Kathy and her cat

1:02:56.840 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and our little duplex drinking box wine watching the documentary,

1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:08.560
<v Speaker 2>but it tastes cherry, hardboard, cardboard tennis balls, like it's

1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:12.120
<v Speaker 2>like so funny. We like watched and drank the cheapest

1:03:12.160 --> 1:03:15.520
<v Speaker 2>wine possible because that's all we could afford. And so

1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:18.280
<v Speaker 2>then the second one came out, we got even more.

1:03:18.400 --> 1:03:20.560
<v Speaker 2>We watched the second one like eight times. I gotta

1:03:20.560 --> 1:03:21.560
<v Speaker 2>watch this. They're so fun.

1:03:21.760 --> 1:03:24.480
<v Speaker 1>That second one's my favorite. It tells you why all

1:03:24.560 --> 1:03:26.160
<v Speaker 1>of the things are as important as they are.

1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, like even how wine was affected by war, and

1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:34.200
<v Speaker 2>it's really cool. So anyway, it got him super into wine.

1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:36.160
<v Speaker 2>So I call him Russell digck Er Salm when he

1:03:36.320 --> 1:03:39.200
<v Speaker 2>does this test when he does swirling.

1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Which is disgusting, I like hate when people do that,

1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:43.840
<v Speaker 1>but he does it every now and then if it's

1:03:43.880 --> 1:03:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a very nice wine, he loves it.

1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:49.480
<v Speaker 2>It's really it's really cute. I love that he's very

1:03:49.520 --> 1:03:51.480
<v Speaker 2>into it and I get to reap the benefits of it.

1:03:51.520 --> 1:03:54.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, this wine's delicious. Thanks babe, Hey, thanks

1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.280
<v Speaker 2>for scoping. Yeah, exactly. So what are y'all watching on Netflix?

1:03:57.320 --> 1:04:02.959
<v Speaker 2>He says, it's not Netflix but Marvelous Missus masl Love Love.

1:04:03.400 --> 1:04:05.280
<v Speaker 2>We have two more episodes, and I like refuse to

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<v Speaker 2>watch them because I don't I don't want it to

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<v Speaker 2>be over. I'm just like that. I'm like, it can't

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<v Speaker 2>be over. We're catching up on This is Us because

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<v Speaker 2>I have to hear. I love it every time I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in it. I'm like, Okay, I love watching this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have to gear up for each episode, Yes, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's gonna just hug all my heart strings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>which I love. I like feeling all the things. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's less likely to be like, yeah, let's watch it

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<v Speaker 2>as a seven because seven's avoid pain, and that show

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<v Speaker 2>has them in it, so it really hits. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's watch Miss Mazel, Like let's watch the funny one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's really sweet. He watches what I want to

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<v Speaker 2>watch because a lot of I think it is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a spiritual thing for me. I if it's

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<v Speaker 2>really heavy and dark, I really really feel it, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And I like, why am I praying against all of

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<v Speaker 2>these heavy and dark things and then submitting myself to

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<v Speaker 2>them and watching it. I'm like, this makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So one day I was like, if it's not if

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make me feel great, I'm not watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have enough real stress in our lives. Absolutely, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need fake stress. I love that. So we're happy

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<v Speaker 2>show people. That's how we are to well, being married

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<v Speaker 2>and such. Friends like, religiously, y'all should watch Last Man

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<v Speaker 2>on Earth? Have you all seen that? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, silly I have. We need to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>back up it kind of took a little. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is getting a little more intense, but like, Michael's

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<v Speaker 1>the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>The episode that first episode is the best pilot I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever seen of Last Man on Ours, and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>bowling with cars. The things are blowing up. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one of my favorite pilots of all time. We

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<v Speaker 2>watched it the whole first season and then I think

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<v Speaker 2>we get lost interest in the second. Yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cheesy, but it's cute. Yeah. Yeah, Michael's the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of remind me of January Jones. Okay, great, thanks, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So obviously I want to talk to you forever,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know you have to go to Best Call

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<v Speaker 1>and there's laundry and all sorts of thah honey, honey,

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<v Speaker 1>But I like to leave all my episodes of Leave

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<v Speaker 1>Your Light. So just obviously you're super inspiring. This all

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<v Speaker 1>is inspiring. But what do you want people to know? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the message you want to speak into people?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh that just love people, love them hard and well

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<v Speaker 2>and intentionally. And I personally think being known is even

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<v Speaker 2>better than being loved, because in our culture, everything is

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<v Speaker 2>just like oh, I love you, I love you. I

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<v Speaker 2>love you, But like nothing communicates love like actually investing

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<v Speaker 2>in people and knowing them and knowing them well and

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<v Speaker 2>in turn you're loving them well. I love that investing

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<v Speaker 2>in people, invest in people. Do you invest in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people or do you?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I rein it in Yeah, I used to do a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>LA has helped you ran that in Yes, that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason you're go at the apartment just to

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<v Speaker 2>just to have alone time and not say yes to everything. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You said a quote like if you say yes to everything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because you're not learning how to prioritize your nose

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<v Speaker 1>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, just because you're I forget exactly what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're saying yes everything, it's only showing that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know how to say no. M h something

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<v Speaker 2>to that effect. Like I had to really learn that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because one day I woke up and I realized I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I've gone to coffee eight times this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and every single time I was helping someone and it

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<v Speaker 2>was not reciprocated. Yes, And I was like, okay, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the two wing. Like I enjoy it, but you can't financially.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I realized I hadn't seen my very best friends,

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who don't need me, yes in the best way,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're reciprocal friendships. Yes. And I was like, dang,

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<v Speaker 2>like I really need to reprioritize my life. And so

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<v Speaker 2>my circle got smaller and smaller. And unless it's reciprocal,

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<v Speaker 2>like it really doesn't get much of my time because

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<v Speaker 2>there's not much of it left.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's so important. I feel like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>that same way I was. I've always loved to be social.

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<v Speaker 1>No everyone, love everyone. I had a breaking point in

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<v Speaker 1>the past couple of years. I'm like, I am tired,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love knowing so many people and being in community,

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<v Speaker 1>but same, it's like you just want to pour yourself

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<v Speaker 1>into the relationships that really are that are life long, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't like and then if someone comes around in it

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<v Speaker 1>totally and it's great, but it's like, I'm not seeking

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<v Speaker 1>that out like I used to.

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<v Speaker 2>We had so many people live with us, stay with us,

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<v Speaker 2>who needed us, Like those were beautiful times. But all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden one year, I was like that season's done. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the beginning of this last year and

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<v Speaker 2>ever and thank God because if I had, we had

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<v Speaker 2>nothing left. Honestly, we were so exhausted that if we

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<v Speaker 2>were banking on anything in return from these people, we

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<v Speaker 2>would have been screwed. I was like, not the people

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<v Speaker 2>who stayed with us, but the ones who always needed

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<v Speaker 2>our time. And yeah, we really had to rein it in.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Yeah, I love you. You're so wise, girls,

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<v Speaker 2>I just love you. I'm serious, I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Little miss sunshine over here. God, well I have a

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<v Speaker 2>rain cloud too. I have to mind before like my

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<v Speaker 2>four is like I'm a romantic scirit, it's a secret

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<v Speaker 2>ring cloud back there. Well, if I haven't seen it, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked on it a lot because like I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a romantic. That's what a four is.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, I get so lost in feelings. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how to separate them all and realize and

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<v Speaker 1>like not.

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<v Speaker 2>Get like go down the landslide with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's how my thirties, I will say, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot better. Like Therapy and Michael, Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>amazically team therapy. I just realize that I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to feel everything to the bottom, but when I feel

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<v Speaker 1>something and it like affects me I have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom so hard and just feel it and

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<v Speaker 1>feel it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why I can recover quickly from things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like some people, something will hit them and it will

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<v Speaker 1>take the years to process or like months. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like in it all the way down immediately, like there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I just figure out how to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's really intense, but it's fast. That's good. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing. But it's a I'm glad you know

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<v Speaker 2>how to do that. It's also psycho because like like bipolar,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes no you are not y out. Oh I'm freaking

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<v Speaker 2>love you. Thank you for joining, thanks for coming over. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I've foun on the road. M hm.