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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The we lose our way, we

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Speaker 1: get back up again. It's never too late to get

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Speaker 1: back up again. Addition, as the Bengals look to rebound

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Speaker 1: face the three and two Colts on Sunday in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Dave Lapham joins me to discuss Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: a j Greene DJ reader, and the latest Bengals news.

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Speaker 1: This week's one on one player interview is with the

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Speaker 1: highest graded safety in the NFL according to Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Bates and at Our Know the Faust segment, Mike Wells,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Colts for ESPN, makes a prediction of

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Speaker 1: sorts that is bound to annoy Bengals fans. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: game and here's a quick reminder that you can have

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Speaker 1: or pod Bean. It's the greatest thing since Archie Manning

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Speaker 1: sending encouraging texts to Joe Burrow on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 1: Burrow shared that nugget with reporters this week. Apparently, Joe

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Speaker 1: struck up a friendship with the legendary quarterback and father

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Speaker 1: of Peyton and Eli when he attended the Manning Passing

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Speaker 1: Academy in college. In this week, after Burrow had the

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Speaker 1: worst game of his young career against Baltimore, Archie texted him,

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Speaker 1: told Joe to keep his head up and shared that

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Speaker 1: in Eli's rookie year, he had a game with a

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Speaker 1: zero passer rating against Baltimore. I looked it up and

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Speaker 1: Archie wasn't exaggerating. In Eli's fourth NFL start, he went

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Speaker 1: four for eighteen with twenty seven yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions,

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Speaker 1: and a zero passer rating in a thirty seven to

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Speaker 1: to the best of them, especially as rookies. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Archie Matting for the reminder. Now time to bring in

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Speaker 1: my broadcast partner, Dave Lapham. Lab It's Wednesday, and I

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Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow just got hit again by a blitzing

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Raven. Baltimore had seven sacks in that game. Burrow

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Speaker 1: leads the NFL with twenty two through five games. I

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Speaker 1: want to start with your specialty offensive line play. How

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Speaker 1: doing a good enough job when they were assigned. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's not good at all. The NFL keeps quarterback hits

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Speaker 1: For him to say, can't do it, man, that cycle

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was asked five questions in a news conference

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Speaker 1: same string. Zach, Did you talk to Ajo about maybe

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Speaker 1: blitzed on fifty nine percent of Joe burrows drop backs.

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Speaker 1: They like Moore did, they got prep're on forty seven

425
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Speaker 1: percent of his drop backs. So he was under pressure

426
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: eighteen times twelve on blitzes during the game, seven sacks

427
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: and when he was under pressure, Joe Burrow is three

428
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: for nine for fifteen yards. It was obviously a tough day.

429
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Speaker 1: It made me ask this question if Bengals defensive coordinator

430
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Speaker 1: lou Anna Romo, why doesn't everybody blitz like Baltimore does.

431
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: They do a fantastic job with their their pressure package,

432
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: and you know, the different multiple looks that you give it.

433
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 1: But yes, it is a little bit tay, let's just

434
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: do that. And well if you don't get home. Sometimes

435
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: there's some guys running free behind those guys, but they

436
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: never get to get it off, you know, so that

437
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: that rush can really cover up for a lot of them,

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00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: you know. And again not that they make mistakes. I'm

439
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,919
Speaker 1: not suggesting that. I'm just saying that sometimes if you

440
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: don't have the same type of guys up front that

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00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: are getting there, you know, it can be challenging on

442
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: the back end guys. So if you look at the

443
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Speaker 1: five games the Bengals have played so far, Joe Burrow

444
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: has been blitzed on twenty seven percent of the snaps.

445
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: No blitz seventy three percent of the snaps. Is that

446
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: blitz percentage are about to go up for everybody, even

447
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: though that's the way that Baltimore would normally do it. Yeah,

448
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to think Eberflus is a great example.

449
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: He's not a heavy blitz guy. But when you see

450
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: the level that it got home, the level that affected

451
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 1: the play, maybe you say, I do have you know,

452
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: I have some packages. I had a couple of three

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Speaker 1: packages that I haven't really emphasized all that much. Maybe

454
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: I introduce him because well, the one thing you don't

455
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Speaker 1: want to do is say, all right, we're gonna do

456
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Speaker 1: what Baltimore does and we don't have the personnel that

457
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Speaker 1: Baltimore does. We're still going to do it Baltimore does.

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00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: And you have to you have to pretty much as

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Speaker 1: a coach and a coordinator, you know, kind of work

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00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: your schematic around what you have for people instead of

461
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: the other way around. You can't say we're doing this

462
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: no matter what, I'm force feeding you in square peg

463
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Speaker 1: and a round hole and it doesn't work out that way.

464
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: But there are packages that lend itself to your talent

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Speaker 1: in personnel that you can incorporate. So I wouldn't be

466
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Speaker 1: surprised if ebra Flus brings those and sees which one

467
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: are most effective. And that's what Martin Deal did such

468
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: a great job of. Once they started a once it

469
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: hit home, they saw it until they were you know,

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Speaker 1: give me some semblance of stopping it, and maybe I'll

471
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: stop blitzen. You're not stopping at all. I'm going to

472
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Speaker 1: keep doing it, and that's the way it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: So I do think, and Joe Burrow said it himself.

474
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Speaker 1: When you're a rookie quarterback, you face a higher blitz

475
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Speaker 1: percentage with almost every team you face, So I think

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Speaker 1: he's expecting it for sure. According to Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 1: when Joe Burrow has not been pressured, he's one oh

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Speaker 1: five for one forty four. That's seventy three percent completion percentage,

479
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Speaker 1: four touchdowns, one pick. Passer rating of ninety seven point nine.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good when he's under pressure. Thirty for sixty three

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Speaker 1: it's under fifty percent, two touchdowns, two picks, passer rating

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Speaker 1: of fifty nine point eight. Now, those numbers are dramatic,

483
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: but not that unusual. Very few quarterbacks have great statistics

484
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Speaker 1: when they're under pressure. But based on that, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, I'm trying to apply pressure. Yeah, And

486
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Speaker 1: I think those Baltimore numbers really affected because it's a

487
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: fairly small sample size. You know, four or five games

488
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Speaker 1: into the season. When you have a horrific day like

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Speaker 1: the entire offense did against Baltimore, it can distort those

490
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 1: numbers pretty well. And it did. I mean not to

491
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Speaker 1: say that he has not had his struggles with pressure before,

492
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: but nothing like what happened last Sunday in Baltimore. The

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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's

494
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now

495
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Speaker 1: time for this week's one on one player conversation. As

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Speaker 1: Jim Neighbors used to sing before the Indie five hundred,

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Speaker 1: Bengal safety Jesse Bates is about to be back holmag Yeah,

498
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: in indian Jesse is from Fort Wayne, a couple of

499
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: hours away from Indianapolis, and he's looking forward to returning

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00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: to the Hoosier State on Sunday. Jesse, the website Pro

501
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: Football Focus has you graded as the number one safety

502
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL so far this season, and it's not close.

503
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: In fact, there's a bigger gap between you and the

504
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: second rated safety than there is between the first guy

505
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: and the second guy at any other position. Were you

506
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: aware of your high grade and how do you feel

507
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: about the way you've been playing. Yeah, so I'm very aware.

508
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: I have a group chat with my mom and my sister,

509
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: my family, and they put everything, whether it's the good

510
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: the bad, they put it off in there. So yes,

511
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm very aware of that, and I think I've played

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00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: very well up until now. I think I had a

513
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: little fall off, a little humble humbleness game and Week

514
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: two against the Browns where I missed up a lot

515
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: of tackles I felt like I could have made. I'm

516
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: capable of making. But you know, it's only it's only

517
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: been what five games, I think it is. We have

518
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: eleven games left and you know that a lot can

519
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: happen in that eleven week span. So my only focus

520
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: is it only it only makes me better. It shows

521
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: me what I'm capable of and what my potential is.

522
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: And I just want to continue to show that. We're

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00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: chatting to Jesse Bates. You've broken up seven passes already

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: this season, which suggests that you're playing fast. Is that

525
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: a product of experience? Do you recognize where the ball

526
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: is going faster? Yeah, it's just better preparation, you know,

527
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: expecting what to you know, see on Sundays. I think

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Speaker 1: Rob has done a really good job of doing that

529
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: the first two years. But it's just me, you know,

530
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: growing up and being able to you know, hear the

531
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: same things and see the same things and just see

532
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: how the quarterback is going through its progression and stuff

533
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: like that. And I mean it also helps, um, you know,

534
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: with Joe Borough being here, he doesn't really good job

535
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: of looking people off in the middle of the field.

536
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: So I got a lot of work with that. Um.

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00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: You know, in a short two weeks, two training camp

538
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: weeks that we had, defensive coordinator lou Ana Romo says

539
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: that you're tackling has improved this year. How does a

540
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: guy who's been in the NFL for a couple of

541
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: years yet better as a tackling The main thing for

542
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: me was strength, you know, coming in here, I think

543
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I was around like one nine two hundred and if

544
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: my weight would drop as the weeks will go. And

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00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I think this offseason I really focused on you know,

546
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: the quarantine did me very well. That's what I've been

547
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: telling people. I was able to just stay at home

548
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: in Fort Wayne, Indiana and train with one of one

549
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: of my high school trainers that's been training me since

550
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Speaker 1: high school, and Lawrence Barnett, who did a really good

551
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: job of having a play set for me and what

552
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: exactly the goals were this offseason. So I didn't run

553
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: for the first maybe two months or something like that.

554
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I got up to like two fifteen. I was a

555
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: little bit too heavy, you know. We we we found

556
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: a really good plan and it worked out. I think

557
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: that's been the biggest key for me in tackling this year. Jesse,

558
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: You've got a new tag team partner at safety this year,

559
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: and Von Bell. He's a couple of years older. He

560
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: basically has twice as much NFL experience as you do.

561
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: What impact has he had on you. Like I said,

562
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, you see my preparation improves throughout the years,

563
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: and you know, you see, von He's come from a

564
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: really good football team, a really good organization where I'm

565
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: sure their preparation was very good. You know, he's seen

566
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: a lot of good things in his first four five

567
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. So, you know, being able to

568
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: just ask questions, being humble enough, and you know, building

569
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: that relationship with him where I can ask questions and

570
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, and prepare the same. Vanna is a little

571
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: bit more early bird type of guy, but but we

572
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: still talk while we're at work. For sure. The team

573
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: lost defensive tackle Dj Reader this week for the rest

574
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: of the year. He's obviously an outstanding player, but it

575
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: seems like he had a huge impact as a leader

576
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: in a very short period of time. Was that the

577
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: case and if so, how Yeah? Absolutely? DJ got paid

578
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: a lot of money in the offseason for a reason.

579
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: He does. He's kind of like me. He doesn't really

580
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: say much. You know, he's not a very right, right,

581
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: right guy, but he makes it know him that he's there,

582
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: and you know, if you turn on the tape, you'll

583
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: always see DJ making plays. Even if he's not making

584
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: a tackle, he's always in the right position and knocking

585
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: the liner screams back. So that'll be a huge blow

586
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: for us on defense for sure. He faced the Colts

587
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: this week in thirty eight year old quarterback Philip Rivers

588
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: sixth dollar time in passing yard, sixth dollar time in

589
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, but he does have five interceptions so far

590
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: this year. How important is it this week to make

591
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: a play on the ball if and when he makes

592
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: a mistake, It's very important. I feel like we've we've

593
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: had a lot of opportunities to get turnovers and we

594
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: haven't capitalized on it. Even myself, I think some of

595
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: those PPUs that I've had could be interceptions, and that's

596
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: something that I'm gonna continue to improve on and we

597
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: need to improve on as a defense, because that's what

598
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: this game is all about, the turnover ratio. And you know,

599
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: the more turnovers we have, our offense has more opportunities

600
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: to score the ball as well. So, yes, Philip, Philip

601
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer, but yes, hopefully we can

602
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: get some you know, some interceptions off them. This week,

603
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: we're chatting with Jesse Bates. Rivers is in his seventeenth year,

604
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: he's played more than two hundred and thirty games. Is

605
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: it possible to confuse Philip Rivers at this point? It's

606
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna be very hard to trick them. But I think

607
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: one thing you can do that that mess with the

608
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are a little older. They don't really move.

609
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: We're not going to play a Lamar Jackson this week,

610
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: so you know, being able to hopefully bring some pressures

611
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: to him, get them off the spot a little bit,

612
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: well that's up with some of his accuracy. So I'm

613
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: very excited to go home and playing in uh in

614
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: the Lucas Oil Stadium for sure. Yeah, it's a homecoming

615
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: for you. You are from Fort Wayne, that's about two

616
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: hours north of Indie. How big of a deal is this?

617
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: It's a it's a huge deal. Um, you know, it's

618
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: another week obviously, but I think it's a really big deal,

619
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Speaker 1: you know, going back to my home state, um and

620
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: playing in that in that stadium. I think the last

621
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: time I played in it was went the state my

622
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: sophomore year in high school. Uh, you know, obviously we

623
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: did the combine there or whatever. But yeah, it's it's uh,

624
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: it sucks that I can't have all my family at

625
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: the game, uh, due to the COVID stuff like that.

626
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Um So, you know Grandma's will will be at home

627
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: watching the game for sure, but my mom and other

628
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: family members will be there for sure. How did that

629
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: high school game go? Um Man, We're not gonna talk

630
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: about that. I'm pretty sure we got whooped by I

631
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: think Lawrence North or whatever it is. They had a

632
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: lot of talent theories. Hopefully Sunday will go better. Appreciate

633
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: the time. Congratulations on a great first five games, sir,

634
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: Thank you. I have another question about Philip Rivers that

635
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: I didn't ask Jesse Bates. What do you think has

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Speaker 1: been harder for the veteran quarterback learning the Colts offense

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Speaker 1: after sixteen years with the Chargers, or remembering the birthdays

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Speaker 1: of his nine kids. For more on Rivers and the Colts,

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Speaker 1: it's time for Our Know the Faux segment, and this

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Speaker 1: week Mike Wells, who covers the Colts for ESPN, joined

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Speaker 1: Day of Lapham and Me on the Bengals Game Plan Show.

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Speaker 1: This week, the one, three and one Bengals head to

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis to take on the three and two Colts. Time

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Speaker 1: for Our Know the faux segment and to learn more

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Speaker 1: about the Colts. Who welcome in Mike Wells, who covers

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Speaker 1: the team for ESPN in Indianapolis. Mike, I've been reading

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Speaker 1: newspapers and websites about the Colts since the beginning of

648
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Speaker 1: the week. There have been a lot of questions about

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Speaker 1: whether Philip Rivers should be yanked from the starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: How shaky has Philip Rivers been? Well, First off, anytime

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Speaker 1: I hear a record about a team, an opposing team

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00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: that says one, three and one, automatically think of hockey

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Speaker 1: or that's how rare of highs are in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But back back to your question about Philip Rivers, the

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Speaker 1: reality is, I mean, you're talking about a thirty eight

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Speaker 1: year old quarterback who you know, had twenty three turnovers

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Speaker 1: last season and in the coach two losses. He was

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Speaker 1: a big part of that. I mean, he had two

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Speaker 1: interceptions in Week one again Jacksonville. Then he had two

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Speaker 1: interceptions including that pick six and a intentional brownie safety

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Speaker 1: against Cleveland last weekend, responsible for nine points. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: a math major in college, but the coach while I

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Speaker 1: lost by nine points to the Bengals and Rivers were

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Speaker 1: responsible for those nine points. The more Philip Rivers struggles,

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Speaker 1: the questions are going to continue with them if the

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Speaker 1: coach were to go ahead at bench Philip Rivers. You know,

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Speaker 1: after just five weeks in the NFL season, that is

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Speaker 1: a complete sign that they made a bad decision in

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Speaker 1: signing Rivers to that twenty five million dollars contract. Last freak.

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Speaker 1: So Mike is the offensive line working in concert with

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers? Is he trying to get rid of the

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Speaker 1: ball too quickly? I mean he's got five interceptions in

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, you know, or I should say the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts only giving up five sacks and he's got

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Speaker 1: five interceptions. Is he trying to protect them getting the

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Speaker 1: ball too quickly? Sometimes it's just a matter of you know,

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Speaker 1: Rivers making bad decisions. I mean where he's locked in

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Speaker 1: on the receiver and got rid of the ball. I

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Speaker 1: mean last week and you play you guys know Miles

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Speaker 1: Garrett very well from AFC North, I mean wondered premier

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Speaker 1: pass rushers and the Colts did not have started an attack.

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Speaker 1: We had six sons though they Rivers had to get

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Speaker 1: rid of the football last week, as Garrett was a carrot,

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Speaker 1: a terror out there in the football field. But Rivers

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Speaker 1: can't he That's been one of his flaws, and what's

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Speaker 1: been an incredible sixteen plus year career is that he

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Speaker 1: makes some bad decisions with the football. But when you're

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Speaker 1: a team like the Colts that has deal with so

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Speaker 1: many injuries and you have to make smart decisions because

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Speaker 1: you have to give you your football team a chance

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Speaker 1: to score as many times as possible. But when Rivers

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Speaker 1: is doing it, it's just not a good thing. And

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Speaker 1: the more interceptions meaning five interceptions right now, compare they're

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Speaker 1: just four touchdowns that Rivers continue to pile up. The

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Speaker 1: more the heat and the pressure is going to be

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Speaker 1: on Rivers and the Colts on Chammers. Longer can he

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Speaker 1: you remain the turning quarterback. We're talking to Mike Wels,

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Speaker 1: who covers the Colts for ESPN. You mentioned the left

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Speaker 1: tackle Anthony Costanzo didn't play last week. I guess it's

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Speaker 1: a rib injury for him. Darius Leonard, arguably one of

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Speaker 1: the top two or three linebackers in the NFL, didn't

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Speaker 1: play last week because of a groin injury. The head coach,

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Speaker 1: Frank Reich, has been a little bit evasive so far

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Speaker 1: about whether they'll be back this week. But what do

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Speaker 1: you think do you have a best guess on those

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Speaker 1: two guys? See Bagels fans are gonna come after me.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna try to come after me when

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Speaker 1: I give this answer. Is nothing personal Cincinnati fans. I

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Speaker 1: would say that's about any team that has a losing

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Speaker 1: record and the culture playing a team that probably they

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Speaker 1: should beat. But when I was at practice earlier today,

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Speaker 1: Costanzo was back out there. There was no site, no site,

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Speaker 1: a sign of Darius Leonard. If I'm the Colts, they

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Speaker 1: played at Bengals this week and then they have their buy,

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Speaker 1: there's zero, zero reason for putting Darius, I mean Darius

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Speaker 1: Leonard and Anthony Costanzo out there because I think whether

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Speaker 1: they have Leonard and Costanzo or not, they should be

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Speaker 1: able to beat the Bengals. And I say that as

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Speaker 1: being very impressed and what I've seen from Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: so far as the season. But if the Coats belader

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Speaker 1: a playoffs team, they should beat a rebuilding Cincinnati Bengals team.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be up in the air. I

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Speaker 1: would not be surprised if Casanzo played this week because

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Speaker 1: he was out there in a practice field. But with

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Speaker 1: a guy like Leonard a groin injury, we all know

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Speaker 1: groin injuries if you tweak it can linger on for

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Speaker 1: a long long time. There's a lot of football enough

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Speaker 1: to be played. If Leonard misses this week, he's essentially

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Speaker 1: having three weeks off with the growing injury. He can

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Speaker 1: get healthy after the buy against the Lions. So again,

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Speaker 1: Bengals fans, is nothing personal, but I don't think I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Coats need Darius Lennon or Anthony Gosanzo

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Speaker 1: to beat Cincinnati this weekend. Let's go to the other

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Speaker 1: side of the ball for a second. De Forest Buckner,

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Speaker 1: big trade, give up what I think it was the

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Speaker 1: thirteenth pick in the first round to get the Forest Buckner?

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Speaker 1: Has he been playing as advertising? Statistically looks pretty good?

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Speaker 1: How's it looking? You know what? I think he's been

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Speaker 1: better than what his stats say. I don't have the

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Speaker 1: stats right in front of me, but he is. He's

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Speaker 1: causing teams to have to pay attention to him, which

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Speaker 1: is allowing you know, the ages wonder justin Houston to

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Speaker 1: be able to make plays still and on the back end.

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Speaker 1: The coata I think they had six or seven interceptions

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Speaker 1: already this season, so fortion turnovers and yells, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: short changing the coach nine interceptions. So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a trickle down effect. Bucklers may not be having the

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Speaker 1: stats they're gonna have everybody screaming and say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: this guy dominated, but he's causing quarterbacks to get rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball quicker, which is allowing the deep, the

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Speaker 1: back end players to defense the backs to be able

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Speaker 1: to make plays and you know, forced turnovers. ESPN Colt

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Speaker 1: reporter Mike Wells is our guest that coach defense number

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Speaker 1: one in yards allowed, number two and points allowed, number

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Speaker 1: one in interceptions. As we were just talking about, it's

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Speaker 1: not chock full of Pro bowlers. It's not like the

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Speaker 1: Ravens in that respect. Why are these guys so freaking

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Speaker 1: good on defense? You know, it starts with the defense.

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Speaker 1: The coordinator, Matt even Flus, he has a model of

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Speaker 1: you know, you played through the whistle. You know, most

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Speaker 1: people play until they hear whistle. The coach defense, they

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Speaker 1: played through the whistle. They and they're always trying to

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Speaker 1: strip the ball and they don't want it to be

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Speaker 1: all about one player. It's not about it. It's not

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Speaker 1: just about Darius Leonard or the Ford Buckner's. It is

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Speaker 1: a whole complete unit. You know, if one unit is

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Speaker 1: playing well, it should help the other two units. So

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Speaker 1: if the D line is playing good, the linebackers and

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Speaker 1: the defensive backs should be able to thrive all of it.

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Speaker 1: So that's It's that motto of hey always attacked the football,

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Speaker 1: played through the whistle. I mean aggressive it as fast

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Speaker 1: as possible, because I mean, I look at the Forest bucking.

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Speaker 1: I think he should be a power forward on an

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Speaker 1: NBA team. He said, he's six seven clock in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the lane, the middle of the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: and he's helping everybody out on that unit. Matt Ebraflush

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Speaker 1: he was a defensive coordinator at Missouri. I was doing

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Speaker 1: big twelve games at the time, and I remember Gary Pinkel,

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Speaker 1: the head coach of Missouri, said, I have a kid

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Speaker 1: that's coaching my defense that is going to be have

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Speaker 1: a future that you won't believe in football. I said,

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Speaker 1: you mean like at the professional level. He gets, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he said, this kid is destined. And it was Ebraflus

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Speaker 1: and his whole thing. When he was at Missouri was

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Speaker 1: do a few things as well as we possibly can.

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Speaker 1: Keep it simple, and they keep it simple where they can.

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Speaker 1: They know what they're doing, and they play fast. They're confident,

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Speaker 1: and man, I'll tell you what, he had those guys

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Speaker 1: flying around the field. It seems like he's doing the

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00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: same thing with the Colts, and that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, it's not it's all about trying to

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00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: do too much. It's like, keep it simple, just keep

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Speaker 1: it simple, and the simple things we do, we have

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Speaker 1: to be the best set it. And that's evil. Plus

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Speaker 1: is you know mind frame. I mean you talked to

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Speaker 1: Mattie Bifus. He's kind of just kind of blow whatever.

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Speaker 1: But his his his tenacity and getting things making a

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00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: perfect making everything perfection is over the top, and that's

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Speaker 1: what you'd like to see at the coordinator Mike Wells

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Speaker 1: is our guest. The Colts have had their share of injuries,

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Speaker 1: including Marlon Mack there, one thousand yard rusher from last

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00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: year but waiting in the wings. Second round draft pick

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, sixth leading rusher in college football history, despite

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Speaker 1: only being at Wisconsin for three years. He was the

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Speaker 1: second round draft pick this year. How much of the

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Speaker 1: offense now is going through Jonathan Taylor. It's Jonathan Taylor's show,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately that's a lot to put on Jonathan Taylor's

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Speaker 1: is his plate, you know. He I think he's realized

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly that, you know, this is not Wisconsin where

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Speaker 1: you can try to stretch a run out and hopefully

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Speaker 1: turned the corner. He's realizing that if he sees a

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Speaker 1: slight trease, he has to turn and turn up field

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Speaker 1: and get through it because defensive players are a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's not facing a Rutgers decense. He's facing legit NFL players.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, with Marlin Matt going down

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Speaker 1: and it kind of put a lot that he had

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Speaker 1: to put out there. I think it would be better

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Speaker 1: for Taylor if Mac not, if Mack had not torn

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Speaker 1: his achilles. But Nathan Taylor's gonna be funny. He's already

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Speaker 1: had one hundred yard rushing game. So they're going to continue.

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Speaker 1: They're going to continue to feature him as much as

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Speaker 1: possible because as much as we talk about Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: or a t Y Hilton in the passing year, the

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Speaker 1: Colts want to be a run first football team and

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Speaker 1: to be a run first football team. It's all about

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. We talked about how opportunistic the secondary is.

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Speaker 1: With nine interceptions leads the league. They get two pick sixes,

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Speaker 1: which also leads the league, and they've returned the kickoff

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Speaker 1: one hundred and one yards for a touchdown, so three

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Speaker 1: returns is tied to the league league with Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals just played the Ravens last week seeing how

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Speaker 1: opportunistic they were. But this special teams for Indianapolis, Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you they're They're eighth in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: punt returns their tenth covering punts second and kickoff returns

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Speaker 1: eleventh covering kickoffs. I mean, they're special teams have dictated

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Speaker 1: fuel position all year, it seems like it is. And

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Speaker 1: as the keeping them. They want to get Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: a short field to work with and then a Rigaberto

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Speaker 1: Sanchez of the punter. He does an incredible job being

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Speaker 1: able to pin teams down. They probably their hat on

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Speaker 1: special teams. They want to be able to shorten the

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Speaker 1: field for the thirty eight year old quarterback and they

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00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: want to they know their defense is so good that

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Speaker 1: if they can get a team inside the team, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard for a team to go ninety plus

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Speaker 1: yards the score touchdown against will And speaking of special teams,

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Speaker 1: Adam Vinari will go down as one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: kickers of all time, but he was brutal last year

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Speaker 1: for the Colts, made less than seventy percent of his

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Speaker 1: field goals miss six pats. What has rookie Rodrigo blank

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Speaker 1: and Shift done for the Colts confidence in their kicking game. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. I gotta say this. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm forty three years old and you know, times to

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Speaker 1: change because I remember talking to Blanket Shift, Blanket Ship

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Speaker 1: early on and we were asking him about hobbies and

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Speaker 1: what he likes to do when he's not playing football.

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Speaker 1: He puts legos together. He puts lego together. That's what

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Speaker 1: my nine year old son used to do. He legos together,

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Speaker 1: and Blanketship says, you know, he's like, I like to

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Speaker 1: build legos. And we asked the special teams accordinated about that.

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Speaker 1: He goes and listen. As long as he makes kicks,

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Speaker 1: that's all the game. And that's the thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: last year was a disaster for the coach. Kicking game

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Speaker 1: Adam Mina Tarry as great as he was during his

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Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame career, he costs him so many

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Speaker 1: games and blanketship. He's the air parent. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: talk about a guy that made all two hundred extra

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Speaker 1: points kicks when he was at the University of Georgian,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, maybe only his thirteen shield goals

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Speaker 1: in his four year career. So you're playing in the

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Speaker 1: toughest conference in college football. So he's NFL ready. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have some missus as we've seen from him

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Speaker 1: and a number of other kicker in the league. But

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Speaker 1: he's definitely putting, you know, making life easy for him.

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Speaker 1: And I think he leads the NFL and scoring two

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Speaker 1: fifty six points. I believe, Yeah, he does fifty six

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Speaker 1: points fifteen out of seventeen field goals. Is fifteen field

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Speaker 1: goals lead the league. Is fifty six points lead the league.

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Speaker 1: You're right on, Mike, Is there a guy that's kind

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Speaker 1: of flying under the radar? I mean, as a guy

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Speaker 1: that's been playing real well that has not gotten as

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Speaker 1: much media hype as maybe he should have gotten. For

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Speaker 1: the Colts, a player or two tight end mo Ali

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Speaker 1: Cox I know Bengal fan. Bengals fans are like who

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Speaker 1: is that? They're probably looking at Google and the first

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Speaker 1: thing that's gonn pop up with basketball probably is a

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Speaker 1: VCU college basketball soccer smart. Ali Cox is a former

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Speaker 1: VCU college basketball player. Hadn't played football since who like

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Speaker 1: the youth, but he's a he leads a coult as

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Speaker 1: far as tight end goal, as far as receiving yards

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Speaker 1: and catches go. I mean, he's using his athleticism. He's

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Speaker 1: taking him time to learn the game, but he's he's

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Speaker 1: definitely moved into that role and he is a legit

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Speaker 1: passing threat for Philip Rivers in the in the offense

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Speaker 1: because Rivers and Frank Wright love the tight ends in

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Speaker 1: his offense, seventeen point six yards per catch, two touchdown

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Speaker 1: catches he got along of forty five. He has been.

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Speaker 1: He has been a big time target real long obviously.

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Speaker 1: Huh oh yeah yeah, he's I'm not a guy that

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Speaker 1: played a power forward and played above the ram. So

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Speaker 1: he's one of those one of the Philip Rivers says,

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Speaker 1: go up and get a big boy goal. Snatched the

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Speaker 1: ball out of the air like right rebound, Ali Cox

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Speaker 1: will go do it. For a final look ahead to

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Joined Lap and Wayne box Miller for the

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