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Speaker 1: down down, that's not time. Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Live Steve Task along with Chris Brown. We're

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Speaker 1: here a till three o'clock. Um, I gotta admit Brown

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Speaker 1: him a little bit of a mess today. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jay's not in his head. Internet problems again in my

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Speaker 1: house from the Horizon company. So I'm bitter. I'm so bitter.

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Speaker 1: You just want things to work so you can sell

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Speaker 1: your job. Yeah, and it won't like from what I'm

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Speaker 1: gathering for whatever price I pay a month, I got

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Speaker 1: And I hear so much. Enough sounds nice. The Wi

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Speaker 1: It's not like they should do it. They should make

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Speaker 1: Remember the old days where you down, you'd have you

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Speaker 1: due to my due to my technological difficulties. So there's

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Speaker 1: I'm still there, And it was rotaries, right, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you see the videos? Now you get guys kids

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Speaker 1: but I think they eventually figured out how to do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Steve Taster and Chris brand here

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Speaker 1: until three got tons going on. We've got a pretty

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Speaker 1: good show, well, pretty good show. Field Yates us coming on.

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Speaker 1: Also Ben Standiggs coming on Field Yates of course, the

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Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Riders, a cost of ESPN's fantasy focused football podcast,

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Speaker 1: and Ben stand egg is. Standigg is a staff writer

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Speaker 1: for The Athletic covering Washington sports. So the Washington Redskins

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Speaker 1: There there are pluses and minuses to show social media,

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Speaker 1: the union wants players tested every day, but we're talking

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Speaker 1: that's field Yate. So also Ben Standy's coming. He's got

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Speaker 1: a long read. Now, if you got a little time

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Speaker 1: today and the pandemic and you got some time, go

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Speaker 1: on and go on the Athletic dot com and it's

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Speaker 1: about the Washington team name changing. Uh it's yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty outstanding. So we'll have Ben On he can talk

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Speaker 1: about that from the athletic he's covers the Washington team.

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Speaker 1: So it's Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to start with? We got all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. We've been going into this, the player the

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Speaker 1: NFL union, and the NFL and the players union, going

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Speaker 1: back and forth. And I can't get over that they

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Speaker 1: had the headline the article I look at says, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's going just as they expected it to. There's no progress. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And again that's why I don't know about you, Steve,

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Speaker 1: but I firmly believe, and I know there's a history

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Speaker 1: of a lot of this stuff getting ironed out in

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Speaker 1: the eleventh hour. But nobody's blinking right now, and I

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Speaker 1: wonder if the league is going to have to get

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Speaker 1: to a point. See. I think the whole reason that

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Speaker 1: the league, so close to the start of training camp

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Speaker 1: still has not said, screw it, this is what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: it's because they want the players to be buying in

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Speaker 1: and if they unilaterally make these decisions, I think they

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Speaker 1: know they're going to get blowback from the union and

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Speaker 1: they're trying to avoid that. But eventually you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to get your procedures in place so you can function

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Speaker 1: as a league. And I just wonder when that breaking

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Speaker 1: point is, because we're getting close to it, aren't we

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Speaker 1: We have to they're getting close. And I think here's

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Speaker 1: the thing what I believe, Brownie. I think the league

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Speaker 1: knows how this is going to go down. They know

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Speaker 1: what's going to have to happen, and they're selling it

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Speaker 1: to the players little by little until they got to

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Speaker 1: give them the whole thing and say, listen, this is it, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is how it's going to be. We've run the numbers,

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Speaker 1: we've run the logistics, we've got the things laid out

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Speaker 1: this and we've you know, we've talked to health experts,

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Speaker 1: we've talked to football people. This is how we think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. And the players are, you know, trying

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Speaker 1: to get what they can get. It's like, how about

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Speaker 1: if we do this and this and this, and the

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Speaker 1: owners saying we can fit this in but not this

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Speaker 1: or this but not this. You know, I think the

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Speaker 1: owners know ultimately what the baseline's going to be, and

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Speaker 1: they know their margin of error, and the players have

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Speaker 1: to find out what their margin of errors and work

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Speaker 1: within that. And that's that's what's going to happen. But

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Speaker 1: this this thing's gonna grind to This thing's gonna hit

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Speaker 1: the gas pretty quick, and the players are gonna have

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Speaker 1: to jump on board or there they can sit out.

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Speaker 1: And that's just the way it is. I I know

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Speaker 1: we've seen eleventh out I guess what I was saying was,

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Speaker 1: I know we've seen eleventh hour deals between the union

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Speaker 1: and the league before. But I think this is so complex.

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Speaker 1: I kind of foresee that the league's just gonna have

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Speaker 1: to start in acting procedures, policies, protocols, right and and

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Speaker 1: that's how it's just gonna have to go. They're just

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Speaker 1: gonna have to unilaterally lay it all out there and

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Speaker 1: that'll be that. That's right now. Hey, guys, the Calvern's movement,

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Speaker 1: we gotta jump on board, okay, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: here till three o'clock. Coming up at one o'clock, Field

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Speaker 1: Yates from ESPN, NFL Insider and Fantasy Focused Football podcast.

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Speaker 1: He'll be joining us at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, and One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalida Health And this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to one of Those Lives, Steve Tasker along with Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown here till three o'clock. We're talking about all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's going on around the National Football League. We're

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Speaker 1: a lot, I mean, for being in the off season

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Speaker 1: and not having training camps going on, and there is

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Speaker 1: so much uncertainty about what we may see and what

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Speaker 1: we may not see here in the coming weeks. Certainly

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Speaker 1: the players and the owners have got a lot to

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Speaker 1: work out. We saw this happen, and Brownie, you and

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Speaker 1: I were both kind of rolling our I don't know

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Speaker 1: why we shouldn't have, because we're we should have known better,

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Speaker 1: but we were rolling our eyes at baseball trying to

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Speaker 1: get it together and all the back and forth between

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Speaker 1: the players union and the owners. We should have figured

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Speaker 1: there'd be at least some of that in the NFL

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Speaker 1: as well, right, I just don't know, as you said,

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Speaker 1: And the NFL players got to play, especially to keep

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Speaker 1: their jobs. I know there's a lot more guarantees and

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Speaker 1: contracts than there used to be in the NFL now,

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Speaker 1: so that maybe has lessens the advantage on the part

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Speaker 1: of the owners, but certainly not to the extent that

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Speaker 1: it exists in other leagues with fully guaranteed contracts like

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Speaker 1: the NHL and the NBA. Right, and we'll see they

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Speaker 1: got a long way to We'll be keeping track of

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Speaker 1: it and keeping keeping everybody informed as well. One of

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Speaker 1: the things we did today that I didn't get to

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Speaker 1: in the first segment was our quick Twitter question of

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Speaker 1: the day, Which Bill's player? This is pretty straightforward. I'm

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Speaker 1: surprised we haven't done this before, but we haven't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think which Bills player is gonna make their first

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in twenty twenty? Josh Allen, Steph Diggs, Jordan Poyer,

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Speaker 1: or somebody else. You can call us at eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or tweet at us at at

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live. You can also give us a call

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Speaker 1: up you're outside the Buffalo area at eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. Which Buffalo bill is gonna

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Speaker 1: make their first Pro Bowl in twenty twenty? Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, Jordan Poyer or somebody else. Jay has sent

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Speaker 1: us a tweet sheet which I have no way of

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Speaker 1: getting into my email right now because I'm because of

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Speaker 1: my horizon problems. Oh there, it is all right, here

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Speaker 1: we go, Brownie, I'm gonna get just as a as

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Speaker 1: a salute to the internet that doesn't work in my house,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the first tweet sheet. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So so this one from Jack a right, drinking the

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Speaker 1: kool aid and thinking with my heart. But I really

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Speaker 1: believe Josh Allen took strides last season and will take

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Speaker 1: a huge step this year and show he's one of

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Speaker 1: the young elite qbs in this league. I predict his

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Speaker 1: hard work pays off, his numbers improve, and he gets

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Speaker 1: the Bills a playoff victory. So he's obviously going with

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Speaker 1: Josh for his first Pro Bowl. Think about how different

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Speaker 1: life would look these days if the Bills win in

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Speaker 1: overtime in Houston. Oh yeah, yeah, that means they go

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Speaker 1: and they were going to go to Baltimore the next

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Speaker 1: week then though, right, they would have had to take

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Speaker 1: on but they you know, they played Baltimore pretty salty

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Speaker 1: the first time they played him and held him. They

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Speaker 1: held up to less points than anybody else. Right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: with the fewest yards as well, Right, so you know

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Speaker 1: it would have been fun. But you're right, a playoff

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Speaker 1: win would be great, and Josh Allen listen, Brownie. If

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Speaker 1: Josh does not take a big step forward this year,

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Speaker 1: I mean, then we gut question marks and then we've

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Speaker 1: got then we've got to like, huh, we got everything

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Speaker 1: we need. What are we gonna do? Then he might say,

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Speaker 1: you know, okay, what's his next contract gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: And all of that, all of the stuff that gets

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Speaker 1: you know, I still think that he's the guy for

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Speaker 1: the future here, but he needs to take he needs

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Speaker 1: to get better, and I think he will given the

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Speaker 1: fact that that's what his coaching staff has been able

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Speaker 1: to do with all these players over the course of

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Speaker 1: their time here. They get these guys play to play

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Speaker 1: better every week, and that's been the hallmark of Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott and his staff here in Buffalo. So we'll see

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Speaker 1: if Josh Allen does get better, the Buffalo Bills get

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Speaker 1: exponentially better. I was trying to I was trying to

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Speaker 1: weigh the odds of Pro Bowl likelihood for the guys

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Speaker 1: that are listed in the poll, which is Alan, Diggs

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Speaker 1: and Poyer. And from a quarterback perspective, it's pretty tough

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Speaker 1: because what do they take three per conference? So it's

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Speaker 1: you know, Brady's not in the AFC anymore. That helps. So,

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Speaker 1: but you think about the best AFC quarterbacks, like if

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger comes back and has a resurgent year, he's probably going,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you can run down the list and

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Speaker 1: you can run out of options pretty quickly. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's what happened to Diggs because people are like,

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Speaker 1: whoa wait a second, Diggs hasn't made it to a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. And that's where we listed in our Camp

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Speaker 1: Countdown series on Buffalo bills dot com. Today's Camp Countdown

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Speaker 1: story was will Stefan Diggs make it to the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Because even though he's had back to back thousand yards seasons,

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Speaker 1: even though he's got he's tied for the fifth most

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in the entire league over the last three years,

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Speaker 1: he has not been to the Pro Bowl in his

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Speaker 1: five year career. I mentioned that to my son, who's

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Speaker 1: a big NFL fan. He's like, what, he hasn't made

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Speaker 1: it to the Pro Bowl, And I said, well, you

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Speaker 1: got to think about this. In the NFC, you're only

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Speaker 1: taken three receivers and two are locked up right away.

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Julio Jones go perennially, and so now

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Speaker 1: who's taken the third spot there. You know it's a

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Speaker 1: Marii Cooper. You know you can you can run out

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Speaker 1: of a room real quick. Yeah. Yeah, And there's not

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Speaker 1: having part of the reason why it's a small roster.

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Speaker 1: U they don't go. It's not like they everybody who

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Speaker 1: had a good year gets to go and and a

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Speaker 1: lot of times and I was a benefit. I was

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Speaker 1: both a beneficiary of this and also the victim of this,

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Speaker 1: where a guy who has gone before kind of tests

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Speaker 1: to get some votes because people recognize his name and

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Speaker 1: perhaps didn't have a better season. I've benefited from that

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Speaker 1: later in my career, and I also was a victim

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Speaker 1: of that early in my career when when I was

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Speaker 1: actually a better player and didn't get to go to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. So it was it happens. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when you get to this Pro Bowl balloting, the fans

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Speaker 1: get a vote, and so you know, you get these

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Speaker 1: you know, market size matters. Green Bay guys are up

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Speaker 1: against popularity popularity contest, and there's more people who are

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Speaker 1: fans of this team than that team, and it makes

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Speaker 1: a difference. Although it only counts as one vote, there's

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Speaker 1: three votes, you know, so all of that stuff. When

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Speaker 1: you get to this Pro Bowl stuff, it does come

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Speaker 1: down to and I think one thing that will be

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Speaker 1: crucial to this brownie, and not for nothing to say

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Speaker 1: everything goes off without a hitch. The schedule, the games,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the Bills play like we expect them too,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna win, say eleven or twelve games, and

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season they go on a

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Speaker 1: run and go three and one in that in that

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Speaker 1: stretch on primetime games, when when Josh Allen goes on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football two or two Sunday night footballs, a

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Speaker 1: Monday night Football on the Thursday night football, that gets

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Speaker 1: votes when he plays well in those games, whether he

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Speaker 1: stinks the rest of the year or not. Correct, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. I remember, I remember

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Speaker 1: talking to Aaron Schobel, who went to two Pro Bowls

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Speaker 1: in his career with the Bills, and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to remember the exact game and time and what prime

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Speaker 1: time it was, but down the stretch in December, in

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Speaker 1: the two weeks leading up to Pro Bowl voting by

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Speaker 1: players and coaches, he had four sacks in two games,

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Speaker 1: and I think one of those games was against the

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Speaker 1: Patriots on national television, and in talking to him about,

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Speaker 1: you know, going to his first Pro Bowl, he said,

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Speaker 1: I kind of timed it out right there down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: So even he knew that he got some votes, you know,

641
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Speaker 1: he produced at the exact time when it was most

642
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Speaker 1: beneficial to get enough votes to get to his first

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, even though he was in a small market

644
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Speaker 1: on a team that wasn't all that successful. It's interesting too,

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Speaker 1: because I remember some of those plays and I don't

646
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: know if it's the right years the year when they

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: it was the Leotis McKelvin New England game when Schobel

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00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: goes in, sack strips Brady and runs right into the

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Speaker 1: end zone on national TV on a Monday night game

650
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: in Foxborough. It's pretty big play. That kind of stuff

651
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: tends to resonate. You remember the Khalil mac play his

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00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: first game is a Bear when he comes in and

653
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: takes you know, Chicago took over the game. That kind

654
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: of tends to stick with people. Haven't seen much from

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00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: him since. Although he hasn't played badly, he hasn't dominated

656
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: like that in games, and so those kind of things

657
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: stick in people's memory. And that's when he come down

658
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Speaker 1: to it in these games and this this Twitter Twitter

659
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Speaker 1: question we've got. You know, if Josh Allen or Stephan

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Speaker 1: Diggs or Jordan Poyer or some of these guys plays

661
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Speaker 1: well in those four primetime games in the last month

662
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Speaker 1: and a half of the season, that goes a long

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00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: long way. It goes a long long way. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: just if you if Diggs is going to the Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl because he's tearing it up in terms of production

666
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: as the no, then you gotta believe that Josh is

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Speaker 1: going to at least be in the conversation. Right. That's

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Speaker 1: a good point. That is a really good point that

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Speaker 1: some of these guys play well because of each other

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00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: and if they both are that and there you go.

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00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan Poy or if you know it's about

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00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: picks and same thing. You know, it's about interceptions, right,

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00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's what those dB particularly safeties, right. You

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00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: can't people, yeah, particularly safeties, because it's not like tradevious

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00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: White where they can say, you know, quarterbacks have completed

676
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: like six percent of the passes they've thrown at him.

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00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: You know, well, Jordan Poy they don't get you know,

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00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't get thrown at. He he's a safety, so

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00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: he's in the run, he's in the past and he's over.

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00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: He's an umbrella guy. He's he's helping guys. He's not

681
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: like assigned one on one. But if he picks off,

682
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, all these passes, that's it. That's the number,

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00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: you know. Or if he bats passes, or if he

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Speaker 1: you know, gets a sack from a safety position or whatever,

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00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: those are the things that get it. And he got

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00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: he kind of got a flash. You got a flash.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get there as a safety because there's

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Speaker 1: such a it's such a position where on one team,

689
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: this guy's really good, but on another team he wouldn't

690
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: be that good. You know, you got to know what

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Speaker 1: are they being asked to do? And it's different on

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00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: each team, in each defensive philosophy. Yeah, but Poyer has

693
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: been extraordinarily productive the last few years. I think he's

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Speaker 1: tied for the lead amongst safeties over the last three

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00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: seasons with eleven interceptions. He's had, you know, more than

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Speaker 1: a handful of forced fumbles and fumble recoveries over that

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Speaker 1: three year span with the Bills, and I think he's

698
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: hurt somewhat by the fact that there is a. There

699
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Speaker 1: is a pretty strong opinion out there that Micah Hyde

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Poyer are at their best as a combination,

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Speaker 1: as a tandem and not on their own individual merit,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that's a fair assessment of either

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: of those players. Quite frankly, this contention that they're better

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Speaker 1: as a duo than they would be by themselves, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you effectively make that assessment, because we

706
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Speaker 1: really haven't seen either of those players in their current

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Speaker 1: roles in a different situation. I mean, this was the

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Speaker 1: place where both of those guys essentially got a full

709
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Speaker 1: time starting opportunity, and holy crap, they've made the most

710
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Speaker 1: of it. Hi did go to a Pro Bowl, Poyer

711
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Speaker 1: still waiting. And I don't know. I find myself scratching

712
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: my head on that one, only because Payer has been

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Speaker 1: so enormously productive and done so many of the things

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Speaker 1: and checked so many of the boxes that require that

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00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: are required of a safety to get that kind of recognition,

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00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: and yet it still hasn't happened, even with a team

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Speaker 1: that's now won ten games and gone to the playoffs.

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00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: It's perplexing to me, Yeah, it is, and and I

719
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: get it to poor your kind of he'd been in

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Speaker 1: the league for a while and he exploded onto the

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Speaker 1: scene when he came to Buffalo, and the kind of

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Speaker 1: the same with Micah Hyde, although he's on the you know,

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Speaker 1: the Packers, but man, oh man, you gotta that position

724
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: is tough to quantify unless you make big splashy plays right,

725
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Speaker 1: and yeah, they're gonna I'd love to see it. I'd

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Speaker 1: love to see a ton of guys make the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I know, when your team gets good, you get looked

728
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: at a lot more. That's the way it happened with us.

729
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: There was a there was a year back in the night,

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Speaker 1: early nineties when my guys and I we had like

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Speaker 1: eleven guys out there at the Pro Bowl. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it looked like a team photo on picture day and

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Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. But it was when

734
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Speaker 1: your team, your team plays well. And I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of these Pro Bowl nods are gonna go when

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Speaker 1: they're gonna look at the Buffalo Bills win lost column

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00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: and go from there. They may have a bigger number

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Speaker 1: of guys this year, for sure, just if they can

739
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Speaker 1: have the kind of success that everybody's anticipating. All right,

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Speaker 1: before we go to a break I want you to

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Speaker 1: gear up for episode one of Captain's Circle, presented by

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Speaker 1: the Bad Blue Light. The first of three episodes are

743
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna feature Jack Keel and Josh Allen. There's gonna be

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00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: three episodes and the first one is with Jack and Josh.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be available to watch on the Sabers and

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Speaker 1: Bills YouTube channels Facebook pages. It's July nineteenth at seven pm.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tune in so you guys can cheers

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Speaker 1: to the Captain. Steve Tasker Chris Brown here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Coming up at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour, Field Yates, ESPN NFL Insider. This

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Speaker 1: is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio talking back in one days, weve Skeeve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown in today, We're here all week, and we're

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Speaker 1: here till three o'clock today. Coming up at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour, Field Yates. This just came in for

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Speaker 1: those of you out there Bills fans who keep track

757
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: with guys who used to play for the Bills. This

758
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: tent just came out today. As you probably remember, back

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Speaker 1: in the day they drafted, they signed a rookie free

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00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: agent named Jason Peters as who was a tight end.

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00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: A guy was like three hundred pounds and was running

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00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: four to five forties. An unbelievable athlete. But they knew

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00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: he's going to be an offensive lineman. They switched him

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00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: to left tackle. He became good, wanted to get the

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00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: big money left Buffalo, went to Philadelphia and has had

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame career. They just resigned him again

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00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: to a one year deal to play guard now instead

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00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: of left tackle. So it's thirty nine. Yeah, and he

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00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: will probably play at an all Pro level at that position. Yeah.

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00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: He's a freaking nature. Has had some bad injuries here

771
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: later in his career. I think one of them was

772
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: an achilles. But the whole reason that he became attractive

773
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: to them again because you know, they have drafted offensive tackles,

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00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: you know, in recent years, to an anticipation of him

775
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: kind of retiring and heading off into the sunset now

776
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: in his late thirties, and so they've done that the

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00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: last couple of years the Eagles have by way of

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00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: the draft. But they just a couple of weeks ago

779
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: lost Brandon Brooks, their guard to an achilles injury, so

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: he's not going to be able to play at all

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00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: this year. So they say, hey, what about Jason Peters

782
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: as a guard? So it looks like that's what it's

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00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: going to happen, and he's for all intents and purposes

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Speaker 1: going to be the right guard for the Eagles this

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00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: year in place of Brandon Brooks. Yeah, and good for him.

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00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is a phenomenal athlete. He really

787
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: he was pretty amazing. I remember hit as a rookie.

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00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: He came in as a tight end and they left

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00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: him at tight end for about three days, but they

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: had a little scrimmage. It was a little longer than

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00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: three days, but they had a scrimmage where he was

792
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: playing tight hint. Imagine literally a three hundred and whatever

793
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: pound guy out running guys down the scene catching balls

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00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: as a tight end. Yeah, he was huge. Yeah, he

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00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: ran a four eight five at the combine, right, So

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00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: that was just stupid. I mean, and we're talking two

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00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: thousand and six or seven, I think it was, was

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00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: his draft class, and he went undrafted because he had

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Speaker 1: a college career at Arkansas where they could not find

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00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: a position for him. He played defensive line, offensive line,

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Speaker 1: tight end, and a couple other places, and he just

802
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: never felt like he ever had a home position wise. Yeah,

803
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: and it was it was pretty interesting how funny it

804
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: was with the way the Bills tried to hide him

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00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: all through the course of training camp, because you know,

806
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: the media and the reporters that had seen him every

807
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: day recognized him as a physical freak. But even the

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00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: coaches were coached up on how to address questions on

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Speaker 1: Jason Peters. Because I remember interviewing the tight ends coach

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Speaker 1: whose name's going to slip my mind now at the time,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you know, what do you think the

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00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: outlook is for Jason Peters being on the roster this

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00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: then the other. And he's like, well, well, you know,

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00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: he's got to get the plays down and stuff. And

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Speaker 1: they were. They were portraying him as a guy that

816
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: was not quick on the uptake, almost to scare other

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00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: teams off, and they hit him on the practice squad

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00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: before bringing him out to the active roster around mid season. Right, So,

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Speaker 1: congratulations with Jason Peters. He's come a long way in

820
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Speaker 1: his career and he's probably headed to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: And signs a one year deal for with Philadelphia. The

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Speaker 1: team he's been playing with for the last decade plus

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Speaker 1: and congratulations to him. Steve Tasker. Chris Brown here Field

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Speaker 1: Yates coming up after the Break One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh

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Speaker 1: a good time watch Steve Claspers Times Down Down Time.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One to his Live Steve Tasker along

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Speaker 1: with Chris Brown. We are here till three o'clock and

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Speaker 1: we're pleased to be joined on the line right now

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Speaker 1: by our good friend from ESPN. He is an NFL insider.

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Speaker 1: Field Yates has been covering the NFL for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: He's a co host of ESPN's Fantasy Focus Football podcasts

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Speaker 1: Field Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here in Buffalo, Thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. The first question is always, how are you

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Speaker 1: and your family doing during the pandemic? Is everybody safe

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00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: and well? Everybody is safe and well. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys having me on. It's good to be talking some football.

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Speaker 1: We're getting closer to training camp, which I think sites

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Speaker 1: all of us, so we are hopefully trending in the

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00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: right direction to themen. But it's great to be on

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Speaker 1: with you Aus always. What do you think preseason is

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00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna look like games, no games, fans, no fans. What's

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00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: your gut feeling. It's hard for me to imagine games

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Speaker 1: being played right now, and I understand that there's nothing

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Speaker 1: has been form flies or official, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's any mystery how the players feel. Right they have

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00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: concerned over playing preseason games, the idea of having to travel,

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Speaker 1: and just the incurred risk that playing one or two

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Speaker 1: preseason games we know we're already down to two maximum

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00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: would bring to them. So I think that players probably

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00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: are going to put their foot down there, and it

852
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: seems like the kind of thing that the NFL, let's

853
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: be honest, the owners could concede as part of a negotiation,

854
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: because as we know right now as we are speaking,

855
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: the players and the owners are really in the midst

856
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: of an important negotiation, about as important of a negotiations

857
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: they've had in quite some time. And that says something

858
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 1: given the fact they just had a CBA negotiation earlier

859
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: this offseason. So I think that ultimately we don't play

860
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: any preseason games. I think that preseason will look I

861
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: don't want to say mysterious, but I think the coverage

862
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: during the month of August will be very, very different.

863
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know what it looks like, people

864
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: are covering every beat of every training camp practice during

865
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: the month of August under normal circumstances. I don't know

866
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: that's going to be the case this year. I think

867
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: we might be looking at coverage that feels almost more

868
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: like super Bowldly. You'll have pool reports, you'll have small

869
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: update tier, but it will not be anything close we're

870
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: customed to. So, with respect to the negotiations that you mentioned, Field,

871
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like any ground or hurdles were cleared

872
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: yesterday between the two sides, at least in terms of

873
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: ironing out any of the procedures, protocols, or policies that

874
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: are going to have to be enacted amid the pandemic.

875
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, how do you see this

876
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: ending up from a negotiation standpoint? Do you see it

877
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: as one of the classic eleventh hour agreements where everything

878
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: gets hammered out at the very last minute, kind of

879
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: the way the CBA negotiations went back in eleven or

880
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: do you see the NFL as a league having to

881
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: say this is how it's going to go, leaving the

882
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: union in a position where they say, well, what do

883
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: we want to file a grievance for? What are we

884
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: good with? How do you see it kind of plan

885
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: out here in the end, Yeah, Chris, I think it's

886
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: almost like the negotiation began at the eleventh hour. Not

887
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: that I fault either side for that, but given the

888
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: fact that you know, string camps are scheduled for almost

889
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: every team to begin two weeks from today, and the

890
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: fact that they're having some of these conversations right now

891
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: means we're sort of already in that eleventh hour now. Ultimately,

892
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: players and Richard Sherman took to Twitter last night to

893
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: stay as much said, and I'll quote him here, good

894
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: meeting with management, Good meeting today with management. We are

895
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: blunt and honest with them. We will not compromise our

896
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: players health in these discussions. So the players have made

897
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,479
Speaker 1: it clear they want a healthy resolution. That being said,

898
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: the players also need football this year because it's it's revenue, right.

899
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: I say need is in almost all of them need football. Obviously,

900
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: there are players that are equipped financially to not be

901
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: compromised if they don't play football this year. But the

902
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: players want games to be played. Obviously, teams want games

903
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: to be played. So I do think that compromise is

904
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: possible and probably likely. I just think the question might

905
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: ultimately may be And this is a question that every

906
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: league is facing. Starting the season and finishing the season

907
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: are two separate issues. So that's my question, is our

908
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: teams and our leagues I should say able to start

909
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: the season safely and finish it safely. That to me

910
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: could be one of the great I think challenges of ahead.

911
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: What's the biggest sticking point between the Union the league

912
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: right this minute? I think it's it's got to be.

913
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: It's basically, what are the protocols for health and safety? Right?

914
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: How often are players being tested? What sort of testing

915
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: are they subjected to, How are we ensuring that players

916
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: who are not in the facility are being responsible? What

917
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: measures are we taking? How much of a ramp up

918
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: period is there during training camp? So those all fall

919
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: under the same umbrella of health and safety of players.

920
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: They just sort of take it to There's a lot

921
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: of details obviously involved there. So I think that I

922
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: think that's a pretty simple, straightforward headline is health and safety.

923
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: There's just a lot of nuance to it. I think

924
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: the players and you know, I read. For example, Jason

925
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: and Devin mccordy filled in on the MMQB on Monday,

926
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 1: and you know, they've laid out a lot of legitimate

927
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: and fair questions, and they I think are speaking for

928
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,439
Speaker 1: many of the players, not that they ask every single

929
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: one of them, but I think their thoughts are pretty

930
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: straightforward that other players will be asking the same thing.

931
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: So I do think there are a lot of health

932
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: and safety concerns for players, not because they don't think

933
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: the NFL is trying to do them wrong, but more

934
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: because this is a pandemic and it's very difficult for

935
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: all of us to navigate life daily, and the players

936
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: want to make sure that they are in a as

937
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: much of a safe space as they can be. I

938
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: realize feel that this might be apples and oranges, but

939
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: we've seen some Major League Baseball players choose to opt out,

940
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: albeit in a shortened season, and all of those contracts,

941
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: as you know, are guaranteed in Major League Baseball. So

942
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: the opt out question for NFL players, once a roadmap

943
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: is provided on what this preseason is going to look

944
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: like in terms of protocols, policies, and the like, what

945
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: is the likelihood of seeing a handful of players opting out,

946
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: do you think, Yeah, I think it could be more

947
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: than a handful, Chris, and I am not taking things

948
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: that I've heard up to this point as declarations. But

949
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: for example, Donovan Smith, the Bucks left tackle a good

950
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: player and obviously his role is magnified now that he's

951
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: protecting Tom Brady for a team that wants to win

952
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: right away, he said recently on Instagram, he posted and

953
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: talked about like the questions he has, right, I mean

954
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: the questions that he has about, you know, playing this

955
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 1: season and it's health and safety of him and his family.

956
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of players are going to do this.

957
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: What we have seen in the MLB in the NBA

958
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: is it's not players that are on the fringe, not

959
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: players that are going to be free agents. It's players

960
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: of all caliber, right. I mean Ian Desmond of the

961
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies, I thought, had an incredibly poignant post outlining

962
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: his reasons why he's not playing. Well. He's also in

963
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: the midst of a massive long contract. Right. So Victor

964
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: Oladipo we know in the NBA amongst well, you know,

965
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: one of the names that's now going back and forth

966
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: on his decision about whether to play or not. So

967
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: there are all kinds of players in other leagues that

968
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: we've seen. I mean, Elina de Ladon, who I think is,

969
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, probably the best player of the w NBA.

970
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: She today is dealing with their own sort of decision

971
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: about playing or not playing in the WNBA. So we're

972
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: seeing all ranges of players in terms of ability around

973
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: other leagues. I can't imagine the NFL will be unique

974
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: or different from that. We're talking with ESPN NFL insider

975
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: Field Yeas Field, and with everything going on, it's impossible

976
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: to predict the future. And predicting the future is kind

977
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: of what fantasy football is all about. I know you're

978
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: you're the guru of fantasy football and you host the

979
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football the Fantasy Focused Football podcast. Just do this

980
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: for me once, Just if everything goes off without a hitch,

981
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: what's last year's rookie that's gonna be the best improved

982
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: player this year. Who's gonna make a splash in fantasy

983
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: football this year? Who's a rookie last year that's a

984
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: good you know, Steve, that's a I don't think you

985
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: even realized this, but that's a question that happens to

986
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: tie well with a piece that I'm working on right now.

987
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: I have the document opened, and I write this piece

988
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: every summer about guys who could be breakout candidates, and

989
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: we exclude players from this list who are really really

990
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: good for fantasy football. Last year, Kyler Murray, Josh Jacobs,

991
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: Miles Standards, AJ Brown, all those guys graduated from to

992
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: start him before I could even get them on the

993
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: second year breakout candidate list. But some of the names

994
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: that come to mind on those lists Daniel Jones and

995
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: the New York Giants, Devin Singletarre, you guys might know

996
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: a thing or two bought him for the Buffalo Bills.

997
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin and Marquis Brown a couple of players who

998
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: play in the DMV area. So one thing that we

999
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: know about the NFL is that while it's not exclusive

1000
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: to the first and second year gap, but it often

1001
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: takes place between the first and second year is a

1002
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: big lead for players. Obviously this year is different, but

1003
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: usually they have their first full off season and they

1004
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: have a better understanding of how to prepare their body

1005
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: and their mind how to be a professional. So I

1006
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: think that we'll see a lot of guys make that

1007
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: leap this year. Some other players that fall into that

1008
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: category No Offense for the Denver Broncos, Tante Johnson for

1009
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, Darius Slayton for the New York Giants.

1010
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: There are a lot of actually pretty impressive names of

1011
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: guys that were rookies last year who were solid that

1012
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: I think will be spectacular this year. Last one I've

1013
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: got for you, Field, because I know your time is

1014
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: short here. Franchise tag obviously, the pandemic has kind of

1015
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: thrown that whole process into a tailspin without being able

1016
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: to accurately predict future years and cap room and that

1017
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So Derrick Henry, Dak Prescott or all

1018
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: these guys just going on the one year and seeing

1019
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: where it goes. Is that kind of what we're expecting

1020
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: to look at, you know? I think so, Chris, And

1021
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: the previous high for number of players on a franchise

1022
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: tag tender during a season was nine in two thousand

1023
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: and nine. I think we're going to shatter that mark

1024
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: this year. I think it's going to be twelve or thirteen,

1025
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: maybe even fifteen players playing on a franchise tag tender.

1026
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: I think the COVID pandemic. Is that real and legitimate

1027
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: and impacting these things amongst other factors as well. But

1028
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: I do believe that when push comes to shove, that

1029
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: will be a bunch of players who will be very

1030
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: rich on a one year basis, and ultimately all of

1031
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: those players are striving for the same thing, which is

1032
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: long term job security. Field, thanks for joining us. I

1033
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: know your time was critical today. We appreciate you fitting

1034
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: us in. We hope to have you on again soon.

1035
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: I look forward to an r A gentlemen, take care.

1036
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: Field to ESPN NFL Insider, co host of ESPN's fantasy

1037
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: focused football podcast. You can follow him that at Field Yates.

1038
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: He's great guests to have on because he does keep

1039
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: his hand on, you know, not just the big picture

1040
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: with the union and the players the union in the league,

1041
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: but also the ins and outs of who might be,

1042
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: could be maybe gonna have a great season. He's got

1043
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on the Bill stuff as well.

1044
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: He noticed in one of his articles about the Bills

1045
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: have the most returning percentage, the highest returning percentage of

1046
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: snaps taken last year returning on their roster than anybody

1047
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: else in the NFL. A lot of stability in the

1048
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: Bills organization right now. Field pointed that out, well, yeah,

1049
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: and in this year, perhaps more than any other. That

1050
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: could be a big advantage knowing that you've had essentially

1051
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: a virtual offseason, almost no time on the field aside

1052
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: from quarterbacks setting up their own deals in parts unknown.

1053
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: So the Bills have eighty eight percent of their total

1054
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: team snaps played in twenty nineteen coming back in twenty twenty,

1055
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Speaker 1: that's pretty darn good. Chiefs were second at just under

1056
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: eighty five percent, and the Colts, the Niners, and the Steelers.

1057
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Speaker 1: So it's uh, I think it's a more significant statistic

1058
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: to pay attention to this year than perhaps any other year.

1059
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Oh dollar five interesting, I know it interests. It's interesting

1060
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: too because a year like this, when we're having this

1061
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Twitter poll that we've got what happens to Josh Allen's contracts,

1062
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: Tofon Diggs, Jordan Poyer, these guys who have Pro Bowl years.

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Speaker 1: It happened to me once my rookie contract was up

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Speaker 1: the year I went to the Pro Bowl, my first

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. So, wow, this is gonna be awesome, and

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Speaker 1: it was. It was great. It turned out to be

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Speaker 1: a great boost for my career and a plus it.

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Speaker 1: You know it cemented me in Marvs in a plan

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Speaker 1: for his future and the Buffalo Bills and polling on

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Speaker 1: all those guys. This our question for today, Which Bills

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Speaker 1: player will make their first Pro Bowl in twenty twenties.

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Speaker 1: It gonna be Josh Allen's Tofon Diggs, Jordan Poyer. You

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: can call us at eight oh three fifty or tweet

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Speaker 1: at us. And we have some stuff going on in

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet that we've kind of started to dip into.

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Speaker 1: But um, we'll just go from none. Let's from John.

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Speaker 1: He'll say this. John is mister doom and Gloom. He says,

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Speaker 1: none of them will. They'll all be busy preparing for

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Speaker 1: the game the next week, which is, well, it's not

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00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: in the gloom and Doom. That's the super Bowl. Um,

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Speaker 1: so John thinks none of them are gonna go to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. They're all going to be in the

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00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: super Bowl. M I thought it was when I read

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00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: those first four words, none of them will, I thought, oh, okay,

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00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: he's this is a guy who's a Patriots fan or something, right,

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00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: But he says they're all going to be in the

1087
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, there is some of that sentiment out there. Yeah,

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00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: it's along. I think it's a big step. I'm not

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00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: saying it can't happen. I know that it can though.

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Speaker 1: I mean we've seen teams do it. Yeah, sets Sean

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00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: mcdermot's Carolina Panthers did it in twenty fifteen. Yeah, that

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00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: was a team that Yeah, and that was a special

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00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: year because what they do go fifteen and one, I think,

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00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: but I think more often than not, and I don't

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: have the research to back this up because I haven't looked,

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: but I just get to just say it. No, I

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: just get the I just get the sense that this

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: is the case, maybe with the exception of a team

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01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: and a dynasty like the Patriots, but you see these

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: teams kind of take ladder rung steps to the super Bowl,

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01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: where you know they had a great year, and then

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Speaker 1: they get to the playoffs, and then you know, they

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01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: fall short or they lose a game that maybe they

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01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't because they're inexperienced in the postseason. And then the

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Speaker 1: next year they actually win a playoff game and take

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: another step and maybe they get to the divisional round,

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01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: or they win the division and they're in the divisional round,

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01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: they get to the championship game in their conference, but

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01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: they can't quite get over the hump on that one.

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Speaker 1: But then the next year, bang, there they are. I

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01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: mean you your teams did that to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight can go to the title game. You know,

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Speaker 1: the next year you lose a heartbreaker and a divisional

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: round right and after that you're you're on your wayt

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Yeah, they do. Playing in those games helps

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: you in subsequent years. There's no doubt about it. There's

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01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. You you think about those games

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01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: all during the offseason, you think about them when you're

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Speaker 1: preparing for the next one the next year. There's just

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Speaker 1: no getting around the effect of losing an important game,

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Speaker 1: one of the games that you've pointed to, one of

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: the games that everybody would love to play in, you know,

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Speaker 1: those divisional round playoff games. Man o, Man, you lose

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Speaker 1: one of those and it sticks with you for a while.

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Speaker 1: I can relate to probably what the Houston Texans are

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01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: going through this year for you know, and some of

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: the young players on the Patriots, all the guys on

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Speaker 1: the NFC side too. We did that. We lost in

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship in Cincinnati, and there are details about

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Speaker 1: what that game meant that still stick with me. It

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01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: motivates you, and I've told I've said it a million times.

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01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills in the early nineties would never have

1133
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 1: gone to four straight Super Bowls if they had won

1134
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Speaker 1: the first one. If Scott's kick goes in. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we go back four straight times. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: go back again, maybe one or two, maybe three times times,

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01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: or maybe three times over the next five years. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way we go back four

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01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: straight times because the mountain was just too too tall

1140
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: to climb, and once you get there, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that the motivation is that easy to dredge back up

1142
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: to go back, particularly give if you get the reward,

1143
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: and if you if you've already got it, if you've

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01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: already climbed mountain and you're already wearing the ring when

1145
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: you go to your second Super Bowl, it's like, yeah,

1146
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: it's pretty good, you know. I just don't see that

1147
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: happening to that team. So I maybe, and that's just

1148
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: that team. I can't speak to anybody else's team, but

1149
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Speaker 1: I gotta think there's some conclusions you can draw about

1150
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: human nature and all of that. Yes, Josh Shallen, I

1151
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: mean he was. He had a zoom press conference with

1152
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: the Western New York media in the middle of June,

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01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: the last time we got to really talk to them

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01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: before they you know, they get their break, which is

1155
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: usually the same time after minicamp that they get their break.

1156
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: And he said he's still not over the loss in Houston.

1157
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: And he said he won't be until they play again.

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Speaker 1: I believe still I'm playing in the regular season, he said,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be over it. It's clear that

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01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: he's drawn lessons from that game. But and I don't

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01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: think he's alone. I think there's a bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: on this roster. And we just mentioned how many total

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01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: snaps are returning from last year to this year eighty

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Speaker 1: eight percent. Josh Allen is in healthy company in terms

1165
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: of that loss in Houston in the wild card game,

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01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: sticking in guy's crows. And it will undoubtedly be used

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Speaker 1: as fuel in twenty twenty. Absolutely it will. There's no

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Speaker 1: question about it. It is absolutely. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 1: only thing you remember from the season before forget it

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01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: when you think about it's like, you know, it's disappointment,

1171
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: is discussed, and all the great things they did, like

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Speaker 1: winning ten games, playing well and Thanksgiving, beating Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh,

1173
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: all of the stuff that went into that season. You

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: just don't remember it. You think about that game and

1175
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: how you gotta wait, Yeah, the last spot away? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and where are we? Where are we on the tweet chiefs?

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Speaker 1: All right? The tweet chief from Seth. He goes, it's

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01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 1: crazy that Diggs is not made a Pro Bowl yet.

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Speaker 1: So my vote is for Diggs. Steph Diggs. He's he's

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Speaker 1: gonna ball. But JP twenty one Poyer, Yeah, Jordan poyor

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: twenty one will light it up again and finally get

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01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: the recognition he deserves. Picks, sacks, forced fumbles. Let's go.

1183
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: And that's alluding to the conversation you and I had

1184
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: in the last segment about what it takes to make

1185
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a safety. It takes picks, sacks

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: and forced fumbles. Um. And and if Parrier does that,

1187
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: which you know he's gonna be on the field and

1188
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of chances to do it. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what people see. He had a career high

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: last year and tackles he had one hundred and three tackles.

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean he was man. You know, maybe back in

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Speaker 1: the days of you know, Leonard Smith and Blaine Bishop

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01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: n hundred tackles from a from a strong safety box,

1194
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: safety wasn't as eye popping. But one hundred and three

1195
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: tackles for the way safety is playing nowadays, especially poorer

1196
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: and hive who are interchangeable, that that's a that's an

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Speaker 1: impressive number, isn't it. Yeah, it is. That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of that's a lot of contact, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's I'll bet his office just out of just from

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Speaker 1: personal experience, I'll bet his off season was rough in

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: the first month or two. He's not a giant human.

1202
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: We know he's not. He's a lot of wear and tear. Yeah,

1203
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's Uh. I think he

1204
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: was probably pretty rough in the in that first two

1205
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: three four weeks off of football. Um, anyway, that's as

1206
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: as a lot of goes into it. But yeah, here,

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Speaker 1: you're right then, I don't know that. I feel bad.

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01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: I feel bad for these guys. You go out there

1209
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: and they played and they this team put together a

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Speaker 1: really nice season last year. Uh, certainly in the big

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: moments they played their best to give except for that,

1212
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Speaker 1: you know, the playoff game when it turned into an

1213
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Speaker 1: overtime game on the road, which you got to tip

1214
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: your hat to a team that can get to play

1215
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: that well on the road. And then you look at

1216
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: them that you know, this is a defense that was

1217
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: third in the league and they blew a sixteen point lead.

1218
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: How bad you think that sticks in the craft? Poyer

1219
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: in hide and all those guys up coughing up the

1220
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: twenty points that it took to get them beat. You

1221
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: know that's you don't think they lay awake. And see

1222
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: here's the thing, people go, do you wake up at

1223
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: night worrying or thinking about just bumming out that you

1224
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: lost four Super Bowls? I said, never do I wake

1225
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: up thinking about those Super Bowls. But there's countless nights

1226
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: where I cannot get to sleep because of those Super Bowls.

1227
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't wake up, but I stay awake thinking about them.

1228
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: They're staring at the ceiling. You think about, you know,

1229
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: the ripple effect of what would have happened. But I

1230
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: know that these defensive players, after the great season they had, man,

1231
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: they take it personal. They really take it personal. Well,

1232
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: you just you dissect the game over and over it,

1233
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: don't you You go down to specific plays and you're

1234
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: just dissecting everything to the umpteenth degree. Isn't that how

1235
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: it kind of Isn't that the thought process and that

1236
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah, it's like

1237
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: a frog in a biology class. You cut that thing

1238
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: open and you look at every little single facet of

1239
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: it and study it, and you think about it and

1240
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: you get ready for your test because it's coming up

1241
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: this season, you know. I mean, that's basically what you do.

1242
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: That is part of the game of football. That and

1243
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: believe me, I do not have the size or stature

1244
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: to have ever played that game outside of being a kicker.

1245
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: But there are times where I look at that. I

1246
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: look at this game that we talk about all the time,

1247
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: and how fine it is cut sometimes with respect to

1248
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: technique at specific positions or I mean, I remember having

1249
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: a conversation with Jimmy Leonard about playing safety, and you know,

1250
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: he was not super fleet of foot, and he said,

1251
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: I have to be on my technique on every play

1252
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: or I'm not playing in this league. I said, what

1253
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: are you meaning? He said, If I take a false

1254
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: step this way and this guy runs a post on

1255
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: me when I think it's a corner route. He said,

1256
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: the play's over. I'm giving up a touchdown. And I said,

1257
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: just because you did that, and he said, yeah, that's it.

1258
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: I was like, that's stupid. Like the margin of error

1259
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: is almost unfair in some cases. It's gotten so distilled

1260
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: because it is the game in America. The young kids

1261
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: grew up wanting to play because here's the and here's

1262
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 1: the physical aspect of it. Garners a level of attention

1263
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: from the male audience out there of guys who are

1264
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: kind of this warrior mentality of guys, you know, being

1265
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: on a team and doing something special as a group,

1266
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: and the physical physicality and the athleticism that it takes

1267
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: to play, it's more of a it's more of a

1268
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: a beastly game than say the NBA, even though the

1269
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: NBA guys or phenomenal athlete leads and the hockey guys

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Speaker 1: and stuff. It's kind of got that, you know, the

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01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: kind of that manly man thing going on with this

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01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: football thing. Right, So it's and it's and it's it's

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: out there for these young kids. So all all the

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01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 1: great athletes who come up, a lot of them they're

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01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: all exposed to it, they all get in. The NFL

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: has garnered lion's share of great athletes in America towards it.

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: And now after a hundred years, the coaching and development

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01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: at the lower levels has gotten better and better and

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01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: better and earlier in these kids careers and earlier in

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: their careers till the time they get to the pros.

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: These guys are polished and their their techniques are better,

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: their their attitude is better, their leadership skills are better,

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01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: their study habits are better. Just because the weeding out

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: process is so is so developed. Now the league is

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01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 1: at such an elite level, both in skill and intelligence

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01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 1: and technique, in commitment and athletic ability that's always been

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01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: the baseline. Yeah, I just don't. It's amazing to think

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01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: about what these guys do today compared to what they

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: did twenty five thirty years ago. I just there are

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01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 1: times where I wondered to myself, just being a hyper

1291
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: competitive person by nature, that if I was big enough,

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01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: strong enough, fast enough to play football at a even

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: at the collegiate level, knowing that slim margin of error

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: that exists with a sport that's cut so fine, and

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01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: maybe this is really only at the top level more

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01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: than anywhere else. I don't know if I can live

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01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: with myself with that, with that margin for you gotta

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01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: be almost perfect all the time. Yeah, Like, I don't

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01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: know if I can handle that. Well, here's not a

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01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: free flowing game. It's a game where plays happen in

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01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: seven second increments, and you better be at your level

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: best and perfect for all seven of those seconds in

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: some cases. Well, here's the thing, Brownie, don't get caught

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01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: up in it, because, like if if Jim Lennard, the

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: guy you're talking about, makes the wrong step, he gives

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01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: up a touchdown, he's still lining up the next play

1307
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: because the other guy has to be perfect in his

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01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: technique too. And here's the thing. You get to that

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: level because you've been successful doing it at lower levels,

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01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: and you learn, you get better. And not everybody out

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01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: there as good as there are great as great as

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01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 1: there are players out there, And how there's no weaknesses

1313
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: on any of these teams comparatively, I mean, all these

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01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: guys have done the same thing. They're still good players

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: and bad players teams. There's not enough great players to

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: go around. So don't think because you're not as good

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01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: as this guy. You're not as gifted as that guy.

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01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: You can't still play because there's always room for guys

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01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: who who can find a niche you know and who

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Speaker 1: And I'm just talking about I'm talking about me living

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01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 1: with myself with not being able to you know what

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean? Like smallest errors is so could be so

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01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: hugely costly. Um, well, that's a tough pill to swallow.

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01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll give you this before you before we go to break.

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01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happens that happens to every player

1326
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: when you get into your thirties, mid thirties, when your

1327
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: brain is better than it's ever been because you've got

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: so much experience, but your body is not. And you

1329
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: can think it and try to do it, and all

1330
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you just, all of a sudden, things

1331
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: are moving a little too fast for you. You know

1332
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: you can't catch up, you can't anticipate. Even if you anticipate,

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01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: it takes you an extra step to get out of

1334
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: your break because you know you're just not as explosive

1335
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: as you want. Brains ahead of your body. Yeah, and

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01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: that's that right there is when it becomes sad and

1337
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: you're like going, man, oh man, and it almost. It

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: really breaks your spirit. It really crushes you when it

1339
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: starts to go that way, because you know it's time

1340
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: you're done. And that's that's a hard thing to live

1341
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: with for these guys that have been so good for

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01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: so long. So yeah, you're I see it, but it

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01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: happens to every every player at some point. Yeah, It's

1344
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: just it's just crazy, how how fine that game is

1345
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: cut now. I mean it's it's a very scripted game.

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01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: It's a very pre planned game. I don't think there's

1347
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 1: any other sport where so much planning goes into one

1348
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: game as it does in football. And to see it

1349
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: cuts so fine and the margin of error is so narrow.

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01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: I just think it's a very challenging thing to wrestle

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01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: with mentally to play and play at a high level

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01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 1: break when we come back. We may we may have

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01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: a little lunch after we get back, all right, Steve Tasker,

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown Here till three o'clock. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio,

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health. This is One Bills Live.

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01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Buffalo Bill to one Bills Live Here

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01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: with Steve tasker Chris Brown all over the map today

1359
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: and all started with my internet wife. So now I

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: got it. Let's just I gotta break rocks with a

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: hammer now to get my stuff up and running again.

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: And I'm doing it, trying to do it in the breaks.

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01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm not doing very well at it. So I'll just

1364
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: apologize to You're like a juggler going from three balls

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: to seven. Yeah, exactly, and I'm yes'm and I'm blindfolded,

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01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: so you can laugh if you want. I'm not laughing,

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: all right, Brownie? Should we should we wrap up the

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: tweet sheet or should we go? Do we have some

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: breaking news? Oh? No, we have breaking news, all right,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, breaking NFL news. So the Chiefs and their

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Speaker 1: franchise player, Chris Jones, the defensive tackle, have reached an

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Speaker 1: agreement on a new four year contract. I think you

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Speaker 1: know we were just talking to Field Yeates earlier this

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Speaker 1: hour and I asked him that very question. What are

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: we looking at with these franchise guys? Is all the

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01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 1: uncertainty due to the pandemic about what revenues are going

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01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: to look like and what the salary cap might look

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01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: like next year? Does that mean a lot of guys

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: are just gonna live on the tag this year, and

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: he said he's expecting it to be the highest number

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01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: in years in terms of guys playing on tags. But

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01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: Chris Jones isn't gonna be one of them. So he

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: signs a new four year deal. We haven't seen figures yet.

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01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 1: It just came down. Chris Mortenson from ESPN, I believe

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: was the first that had it. So a four year

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01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: deal for Chris Jones. So the Chiefs locking up another

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: cornerstone player on their championship roster. So yeah, done right,

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: right you They've got done a nice job being able

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: to keep that thing together. Sammy Watkins redoing his deal,

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01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: which was a you know, he had a mega deal

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01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: when he when he went there, they redid him and

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: lengthened his They've got obviously Mahomes tied up. Now they've

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01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: got Chris Jones tied up. They're in a nice job

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01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: keeping their core guys together. And uh, even when the

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: guy we just had on field, Yates put them and said, listen,

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of guys that are still on

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: their roster who played a lot of snaps for him

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01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:56,560
Speaker 1: last year. And that's kind of where you want to

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01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: be as a world champion defending you know. And then

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Speaker 1: the other break news Steve is the Patriots have just

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01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: announced their reduced capacity and preliminary protocols for fans at

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium this fall. So basically in a nutshell, you know,

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: they admit even in their announcement that there's still much

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: to be decided and you need state and local approvals

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01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: before fans are permitted inside the stadium. But they informed

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: their ticket holders today that pending state and local approval,

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01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium will be allowed to have fans in the

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01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: stands this season, but only at twenty percent of the

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01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 1: stadium's total capacity to ensure proper physical distancing and the like. Yeah,

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01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: so not only here's the thing. It just occurred to me,

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: I thought, and that probably is true. People are going

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01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: to be you know, the secondary market for whatever tickets

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01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: are available or is going to be off the charts, right,

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01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: people are gonna want to be in there. But by

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01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: the same token, when you start thinking about what you're

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01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to do to get into that stadium and

1417
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: watch the game in person, it's like, you know what,

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01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay home and I would I mean

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01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: I've seen a gazillion game, so it's not like novel

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01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: to me. Plus, if I'm gonna sit in the stands,

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01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 1: I will stay home because I've spent too many times

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines, on the down marker, right in

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01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: the midst of it to think it's gonna be all

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01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: that great a treat to sit in the fifteenth row

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: in the corner of the end zone. You know, I

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: just can't do it anymore. I'm too spoiled, and you

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: can you know, I am a pig, I know by

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01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: saying that. But you know, and for people who have

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, been there, and you're there with all your

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: friends and it's great, and all the stuff that goes

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01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: on around you and stuff, I don't know that it's

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: the same it's gonna be. It's never gonna be. It's

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01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: not gonna be the same experience. Now, people might want

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01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: to do it for the novelty of it, but standing

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01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 1: by yourself watching a game, you have a lot of

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01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: elbow room. Yeah, And just to kind of paint the

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01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: picture a little clearer, if, for example, the Bills were

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01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,480
Speaker 1: able to allow twenty percent capacity like the Patriots are announcing,

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01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: provided all the state and local approvals go through, that

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01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: would be approximately fourteen thousand, six hundred fans in the

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 1: stadium in Buffalo if the twenty percent capacity rule applies

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01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: to the Bills, as it seemingly is going to be

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01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: applying to the Patriots. So so that's that the numbers

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Speaker 1: are out for the Chris Jones deal, Steve, are you

1445
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: ready for this? Four years, eighty five million dollars, sixty

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: million guaranteed upon signing. Seriously, that is a mountain of money.

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01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: Where are they getting this money for Chris Jones? Twenty

1448
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: million bucks a year? I couldn't be And I know

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01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a Chiefs fan. I don't follow those guys.

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01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: And you know it's different. It's not like the NBA,

1451
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 1: where you see I couldn't pick him out of a lineup.

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01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: He's a good player. I know, it's really don't get

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01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm just saying that he's not like I

1454
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: don't see him on all state commercials. I don't see

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: him on you know. I mean, this is a guy

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: who's just a really good player. Man. Oh man, Now

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 1: they got what happens if the cap goes belly up? Yeah,

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,799
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm wondering. I have to believe

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01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: that the second year of this deal is pretty minuscule.

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: And there's sixty million guarantee on signing, So that's you know,

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: fifteen each over the next four years. You know, he

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01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: signs that thing and gets sixty million on the spot.

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01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 1: That's fifteen a year. So you're on the hook for

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01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: at the very least fifteen plus a minimum paragraph five

1465
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: salary for a six or seven year guy. I mean

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01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 1: that's I mean, man, you're already pretty pretty fat right there.

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: I really think the economics of this pandemic, we have

1468
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: yet to see what's going to happen with it. I

1469
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a there is there is

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01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a reaping. I think there's gonna be a mess. Right.

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Speaker 1: The only people that are gonna benefit from that are accountants.

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01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: Could we get to the point brow to think about this,

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm I'm being really serious now. Could we

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01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 1: be getting to the point where a team owes a

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01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: guy like Mahomes, Chris Jones, Sammy Wadkins at Tyreek Hill,

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01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: whoever's on that list, right, they've got all these Could

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01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: they get to a point where they cannot pay enough

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01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: people minimum salary and still get under the cap and

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01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: oh say, oh these guys like so the cap drops

1480
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: fifty million bucks, so it goes down to one hundred

1481
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: and let's say one hundred and forty five fifty million bucks, right,

1482
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: and they're on the hook for seventy five million of

1483
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 1: it Mahomes and Jones. Right. Okay, So let's say let's

1484
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: say ninety million of it is goes to four guys. Yeah, right,

1485
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: so you're down to you know, sixty million bucks left, right,

1486
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: and you've got to sign what forty nine other guys?

1487
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: You've gone straight to the scorched dearth scenario. Um. I

1488
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: don't see the league letting that happen because the big

1489
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: money guys are the quarterbacks who they know they need.

1490
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: And that's why I believe they will spread out the

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01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: loss over a period of years to justify the same

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 1: spending that they've always, you know, participated in over the

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01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 1: last mteen years. Yeah, don't see them changing years. You

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01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: see my point? Though? No? No, I because if I

1495
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: totally get it that the league could use it as leverage,

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01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean think of to say, listen, guys, that's fine,

1497
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 1: because listen, brownie. Even if the revenues go way back

1498
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: up in the cap drops, that money goes right into

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,560
Speaker 1: the owner's pocket. So if the if the revenues go

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01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: right back up to where they were plus some, and

1501
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 1: they've got they would have the cash to spend two

1502
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: hundred million bucks on its players. But there's only one

1503
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty hundred fifty million dollars salary cap. Guess

1504
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: where that fifty million bucks goes. It goes right into

1505
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: their pocket. Yeah, so they don't care. Why would they

1506
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: care if it's scorched dirt. The players brought it on

1507
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: themselves for not letting them do that, so they could

1508
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: just say, long, you you opted out and we took

1509
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: the hit on our revenues and took a loss last year.

1510
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: We're getting that money back, and that salary cap is

1511
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: what you agreed it would be. And it's your fault.

1512
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: It is there or except for the pandemic, but it's

1513
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: your fault for opting out and not taking the money

1514
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: and not letting it you know what I mean. So

1515
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: they've got a ton of leverage, Yeah, I mean it

1516
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: makes sense. An incentive, they've got an even if you

1517
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: make the cap drop, yeah, even if you keep it

1518
01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: flat there's gonna be some tough decisions next year, just

1519
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a lot of contracts on rosters

1520
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: that exist already that maybe bat you know, backloaded and

1521
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: or third year, we're paying big money when the cap

1522
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: we know is gonna be over two hundred million. Well

1523
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be over two hundred million anymore. So

1524
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: you've got to make some adjustments. So you're gonna see

1525
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a number of renegotiations, probably a great

1526
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: deal more player cuts if they if the players aren't

1527
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: agreeing to pay cuts that were restructurings. So yeah, come

1528
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 1: one way or another, there's gonna be a lot of

1529
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: more players out in the open marketplace next year, no

1530
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 1: matter how this thing plays out, just from a simple

1531
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: economic standpoint, I think so too. I think so too right,

1532
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: And it's it's gonna be fun to watch it. Although

1533
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing too, and we and we've been talking

1534
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: about this about how the team structured and how it

1535
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: is going forward. And the Mahomes contract is great for

1536
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs because it's not for like three years before

1537
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,719
Speaker 1: they have to start really paying out the big cash

1538
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,839
Speaker 1: to keep him. But I think the interesting thing about

1539
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: it is that you get. We mentioned this when we're

1540
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: talking about teams, and you know, playoffs and and how

1541
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: the Bills are looking and where they lost that game,

1542
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: and how it's going to affect them. But the Bills

1543
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: have seemed to grow and grow and grow, and they're

1544
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 1: getting to a point where they're trying to maintain it, right.

1545
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they've they've built this in such a way

1546
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: economically so that they can keep it going. There isn't

1547
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: the proverbial finger quotes window of opportunity. This is a

1548
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: team that should be competitive every year. Now, certainly they'll

1549
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: have good years and bad years, but economically speaking, they're

1550
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: not going to push all their chips to the table

1551
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: and then have the ball bounce bad their way, get

1552
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: put out of the wildcard round, and then go into

1553
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: cap jail for five years. You know what I'm saying.

1554
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: They should They should be able to bounce back every offseason. Now,

1555
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: this this offseason coming up is going to put that

1556
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: to the test. The one, not this year, this one.

1557
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,560
Speaker 1: They they're kind of said that one that with the

1558
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 1: cap we'll see white. You have Dion Dawkins, you have

1559
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: Matt Milano, and then in the year after that, you're

1560
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna have Edmonds at Allen. So yeah, there's there are

1561
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: some big decisions looming. I agree, all right, Steve Tasker,

1562
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Gonna take a break, we'll be back. Also

1563
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 1: at the top of the hour, we've got staff writer

1564
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 1: for the Athletic covering the Washington sports teams. Obviously the

1565
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: Washington football team in the National Football League changing its name.

1566
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: We're gonna ask Ben Standig his thoughts about it. He's

1567
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: got an enormously long and great read uh uh on

1568
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the athletics, so we encourage you to go that. We're

1569
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 1: gonna talk to him about it. Coming up, Steve Tasker

1570
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown on Buffalo Bill's Radio presented by Kalida Health.

1571
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live. You'll see at the top

1572
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: of the hour, we've I've been standing staff rider for

1573
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: the Athletic covering Washington sports. The Washington NFL team is

1574
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: going to change its name, and we're gonna find out

1575
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,839
Speaker 1: what it is maybe at some point in the near future.

1576
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: This also came out this kind of time of year, Brownie,

1577
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: we do it all the time. All these guys are

1578
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: coming out with rankings. Well they came out Bill Barnwell

1579
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: ESPN staff Rider came out with his rankings of all

1580
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:23,799
Speaker 1: thirty two teams, which ones have the best offensive weapons?

1581
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: Guess which team cracked the top ten? Brownie Bills at

1582
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: number eight. Very nice to see that. Yes, I was

1583
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: scrolling and I'm like, oh, I haven't seen him yet

1584
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: because he started from he started from thirty two and

1585
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: worked his way up, and I was in the third,

1586
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I was in the twenties. Nos in the teams there, no,

1587
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: And then we cracked the top ten, and I was like, oh,

1588
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: look at that, But I think his assessment is fair

1589
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: at eight. Think about this though last year they were

1590
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: twenty five, right, I this was the biggest takeaway that

1591
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: I had from Barnwell's assessment of the Bills. He said

1592
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: right at the end, the twenty nineteen version of John

1593
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: Brown could be the most overqualified second wide out in

1594
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: football outside of Chris Godwin in Tampa Bay. I mean,

1595
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: John Brown was essentially the number one here last year

1596
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: and had career highs and catches and yards. I mean

1597
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 1: it was over a thousand yards last year and now

1598
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: he's the number two behind Digs. That's pretty dang good

1599
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 1: number two to have. And so I looked at the

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01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: seven teams that Barnwell had ahead of the Bills. Okay,

1601
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: so number one was Kansas City, Fine, that totally get it.

1602
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: Cleveland number two. Granted the Winds haven't matched the talent,

1603
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 1: but okay, I can see it. Dallas three again, top

1604
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: level skill position talent, I get it. So no with that,

1605
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, same thing, Godwin Evans the tight ends. You know,

1606
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:11,360
Speaker 1: good group, and now they have Brady. I stopped when

1607
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: I got to five, right, alright, me too. Carolina at

1608
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 1: number five, like, I mean, they must think Christian. They

1609
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 1: think Christian McCaffrey is the founder of Christian I mean,

1610
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: I think you walk on water. You want to argue McCaffrey,

1611
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, Okay, play the disconnect here. The

1612
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: disconnect here is at the receiver position. Okay. I think

1613
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: Dj Moore has one one thousand yards season as a

1614
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: receiver in his career. Um, Curtis Samuel does not have

1615
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: anything close to that, and they lost Greg Olsen in

1616
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: free agency. So yeah, I think Barnwell was was coming

1617
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: out of a nap when he made Carolina fifth. Well,

1618
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: I mean I get Teddy Bwater, Kyle Allen, and well,

1619
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen isn't there anymore. I think he's in Washington

1620
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,920
Speaker 1: with Rivera now. But but Bridgewater, you know, he has

1621
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: been a starter in three years. I mean you want

1622
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 1: to project, okay, but Curtis Samuel DJ Moore is your

1623
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 1: top two receivers. You're telling me that those two guys,

1624
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: combined with McCaffrey and Bridgewater are better than Alan Singletary, Digs,

1625
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: John Brown, Cole Beasley. I just I can't get there, man,

1626
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: I can't get there. Yeah, and they and they had

1627
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: a head of New Orleans, right, That's what I was saying.

1628
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 1: The next team is New Orleans. I'm like, whoa what

1629
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: Carolina head of New Orleans? Now I'm ended Emmanuel Sanders.

1630
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 1: And then it's number seven. It's the Giants, right Yeah,

1631
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: I mean with Golden Tate but yeah, yeah, and with

1632
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones pulling the trigger. Evin Ingram is a really

1633
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: really really good tight end. I think you could make

1634
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: the Giants argument better than the Carolina one. Yeah, but

1635
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Golden takes my age. Well, I mean he's yeah, you know,

1636
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's been around slot. Like, I think at

1637
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: least what you get to line up with with the

1638
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Giants is deeper than what you're lining up with with Carolina.

1639
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I think sae Quan and McCaffrey are a wash.

1640
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,759
Speaker 1: They're different kinds of players, but that's probably a wash.

1641
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks are probably a wash. And then after that,

1642
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 1: I think the Giants win at tight end going away

1643
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 1: slot receiver is better and Shepherd and then yeah, it

1644
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: takes a little long in the tooth, but the Curtis

1645
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: Samuel hasn't done anything for the Panthers yet right now.

1646
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, when you get down, you get

1647
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: all through that, and you get all those debates done,

1648
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: you get to number eight and you think, well, what

1649
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 1: about Buffalo bills if they put the Buffalo Bills that high?

1650
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Obviously Stefan Digs is huge in that, but also Devin Singletary.

1651
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 1: But think about this, it comes down to the wide

1652
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: receivers and Cole Beasley, John Brown and Stefan Diggs lots

1653
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: of experience, lots of productivity, there no question about it.

1654
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 1: But then you've got the look at the running backs

1655
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: and the tight end. You got a second year running back,

1656
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: a rookie running back, a second year tight end that

1657
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: are starters. That's a really young roster to be that high.

1658
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: In the in the rankings for playmakers and their take

1659
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,799
Speaker 1: on Dawson Knox to emerge, and he says he emerged.

1660
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: He's a matchup problem, even with his drop issues, and

1661
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: he took over when Tyler Croft didn't stay healthy and

1662
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: Croft couldn't get back on the field. It was it

1663
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: was Dawson Knox's job, and that says a lot about

1664
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: what Dawson Knox brought to the table. Yeah, he's he's

1665
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 1: just athletically superior. Yeah, so Croft, I don't think that's

1666
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: any secret to anybody that's watched this team last year. Yeah,

1667
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: it was. It was good to see him there. For

1668
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 1: Sun article Top ten Buffalo Bills, Bill Barnwell put him

1669
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 1: at number eight in the overall offensive playmakers rankings around

1670
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,639
Speaker 1: the National Football Egg all right, let's take a break,

1671
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. We'll be right back. After

1672
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: this break, we're gonna have Ben stand Eggon. He's a

1673
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: staff writer for The Athletic covering the Washington sports scene.

1674
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: He's going to talk to us about the Washington football

1675
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,680
Speaker 1: team having a new nickname. Steve Tasker Chris Brown. Right

1676
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: after this, This is one Bills Live on Buffalo Bills

1677
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Radio for Time watch Steve Taskers domes dover time. Welcome

1678
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: back to one Bill's Live Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown.

1679
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: We're here till three o'clock. We'd also like to take

1680
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: a moment to welcome in our next guest, Ben stand Egg.

1681
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 1: He's a staff writer for The Athletic covering Washington Sports.

1682
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 1: He's a former beat reporter for NBE Sports in Washington.

1683
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Ben Steve Tasker Chris Brown here in Buffalo. First thing

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Speaker 1: we got to ask you, how are you doing during

1685
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: the pandemic? Is your family safe? And well? Yeah, doing Okay,

1686
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very much indoors person these days, trying to

1687
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 1: get by like everybody else. Uh, you know, I was

1688
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: trying to trying to stay safe. Where where the mask

1689
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 1: and you know go from there. Yeah, you wrote a

1690
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: really nice article during this about the agents and their

1691
01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 1: take on all that's gone on. Certainly this has been

1692
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: a tumultuous offseason and that was a really good read.

1693
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 1: You're it's just an agent survey that you put out.

1694
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: I guess you do this about every year. What was

1695
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 1: the gripping thing and the most telling thing that made

1696
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 1: this year's survey a little different? Than ones you've done previously.

1697
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 1: So the one I did last year was it was

1698
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: entering the football season, both pro and college, and it

1699
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 1: was sort of like, hey, you know, it was a

1700
01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: little lighter, a lot lighter. It was about, hey, who

1701
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: do you think of the best prospects? You know, some

1702
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: guys were overrated, underrated. Talk to me about your process

1703
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: as an agent. How do you go about assessing the

1704
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: players to consider? And you know, who are some of

1705
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: the general managers that you think are good or bad

1706
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:13,639
Speaker 1: and what have you. And then there's some of those

1707
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: elements in here as well. But obviously, you know, I

1708
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: debated do I wait to run this again, you know,

1709
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 1: in like September? But obviously it was so much happening

1710
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: in the world. We don't even know what's going to

1711
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 1: happen with this NFL season. It just felt like, let me,

1712
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: let me get it here earlier. And so there were

1713
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: a lot of questions about, Look, obviously everybody out there

1714
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: is all we do is talk about COVID nineteen and

1715
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 1: how do we deal with it? But I wanted to

1716
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 1: ask the agents, well, you have these clients, you have

1717
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: to you know, you need to get them. You know,

1718
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 1: basically realistic. You're gonna get paid if they play, but

1719
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 1: we don't know if they're gonna play, and maybe you

1720
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: don't even want them to or you sit you feel

1721
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 1: comfortable with these going guys going back, what's the most

1722
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, what's your biggest concern as far as how

1723
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: the NFL is handling it and handling it. And then

1724
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: of course there's also you know, we've been having this

1725
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,719
Speaker 1: national conversation about racing and America and have the impacts

1726
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 1: of the NFL, whether we're talking about Colin Kaepernick, minority hires,

1727
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 1: and you know, they had thoughts on that, and I

1728
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: think I think the reality is whether we're talking about

1729
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: these topics. I asked what they thought about the pad

1730
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: Mahomes contracts, um, you know, again, some of the questions

1731
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: about which general managers do you trust the most at

1732
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: least and so on. I think everybody, at least people

1733
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: I talked to in life, everybody's on edge sort of

1734
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: at all times. And I felt like you could sort

1735
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 1: of feel some of that come out in some of

1736
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: these answers that the people are very concerned about. You

1737
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: know all you know a lot of aspects of life

1738
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,799
Speaker 1: these days, and you know, the agents are not immune

1739
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 1: to that, and you know, whether it's talking about their

1740
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: own client or theirselves, or we're just kind of wear

1741
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: things are headed. You know, I think that that sort

1742
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 1: of raw emotion, I think it really kind of came out.

1743
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Was there a common theme within those COVID concerns that

1744
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 1: you pulled from all the guys that you talked to? Like,

1745
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: was it because just reading some of the comments that

1746
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: you put in your piece, it looked like it was

1747
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 1: more were about the unknown than anything else. Would you

1748
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,640
Speaker 1: agree with that or yeah, So this particular topic was

1749
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: very interesting in this respect. I started surveying. I ultimately

1750
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: surveyed thirty agents, and you know, it did until over

1751
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: a few weeks. But I started in mid June, and

1752
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 1: at that point, look, we already had gone through, you know,

1753
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: several months of this, and I'm not saying things have

1754
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: necessarily ever calmed down, but things has sort of been

1755
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: reached a point where it wasn't as it wasn't as

1756
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: dramatic as it felt early on. But as I kept

1757
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,519
Speaker 1: progressing is when the numbers started to spike. And from

1758
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: that I went back to everybody. I originally asked questions

1759
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 1: about do you think the season's going to start on time,

1760
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of people like, yeah, you know, I

1761
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 1: feel fairly confident. It was it was somewhat split, but

1762
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: you know, pretty confident. I think probe would say for

1763
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: the most part. But when I went back past, how

1764
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Well, the season, well they

1765
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 1: played all sixteen games, and if not how many then

1766
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,679
Speaker 1: people you started hearing a lot more fear in their voices,

1767
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 1: and some people said they all think they'll get done

1768
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: at all, that there will be no season. You know,

1769
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: there's questions, uh, you know that they would play sixteen games.

1770
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, some people just think the NFL is going

1771
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,640
Speaker 1: to afforde ahead no matter what because just too much

1772
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: money involved and and so on. But you just sort

1773
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: of from that perspective, it really felt like people were

1774
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 1: you can just feel the feel the change. And yeah,

1775
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned specifically the unknown. I mean, I really do think,

1776
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I can't convey in

1777
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 1: the survey is like the long pauses, the people searching

1778
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 1: for what to what to think, because it really is

1779
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: such a complicated component. None of them, I mean, none

1780
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 1: of us can say, well, for sure, what is going

1781
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: to happen. I mean, at the NFL's training camps are

1782
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: set to open in two weeks. On the team that

1783
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 1: I cover here in Washington, it's pretty obvious that they

1784
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 1: don't have all the answers yet as far as how

1785
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 1: they're going to handle all aspects of training camp, whether

1786
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: it's dealing with the media or the players or what

1787
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: have you. How can they right? I mean, the league

1788
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 1: hasn't specified exactly what's to happen. So the level of

1789
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: uns across the board of this thing, especially with no vaccine,

1790
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: just makes it so challenging. And you know, I, like

1791
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I said, more time went on, the more it felt

1792
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: like people were starting to really be uneasy about the

1793
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,799
Speaker 1: idea of their being a season. We're talking with Ben Standing,

1794
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: staff writer for the Athletic and Washington covering the Washington

1795
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: sports scene. As you mentioned, Ben, two weeks. For months

1796
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: we were on this radio show and everybody across the

1797
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: country was saying how lucky the NFL was because of

1798
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 1: the timing of the pandemic and they were gonna have

1799
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: time to get their ducks in a row and they

1800
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: could watch the other league start and stop and pause,

1801
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 1: and it just couldn't have been better for the National

1802
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 1: Football League. They had a virtual draft, but it went

1803
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: off without a hitch. They had free agency, it went

1804
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,840
Speaker 1: off without a hitch. As you just said, we're two

1805
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 1: weeks away and we have no answers, and it looks

1806
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 1: like nobody's ready to do anything. Yet. How likely is

1807
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: it that the league, the regular season, everything gets pushed back?

1808
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know about a percentage chance.

1809
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: But you know, unless just people just bury their head

1810
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: in the sand, unless they just say move on, you know,

1811
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: we're just gonna do this one way or the other.

1812
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: You know, it just becomes harder to see. You know.

1813
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for me to take going way

1814
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:19,839
Speaker 1: back and after the first few days of the pandemic

1815
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,679
Speaker 1: and you start to sort of grasp us to what's happening.

1816
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, my thought, no matter what the sport was,

1817
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 1: in terms of the team sports was, I don't you know,

1818
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to see how does any of this get

1819
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: done without a vaccine. Certainly, the colleges seemed like they

1820
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 1: were toast, and I think where it feels like we're

1821
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 1: heading in that direction at least for a college football

1822
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: and you know, the pros it was sort of the

1823
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: same element, except that because like you said it was

1824
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: the off season. They had time to go stiff upper

1825
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: lip and say, oh we're good, because who knows where

1826
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: the world would be. And I suspect if you listen,

1827
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, as we're listening to the various medical experts talk,

1828
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, with the government about what was happening, I

1829
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 1: think we people, because generally expected there to be a

1830
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: dip in the summer and then we'll see where we're

1831
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: at in the fall. Unfortunately, we as we know, that

1832
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: hasn't happened, and it's been spiking you know, in Florida, Texas, California,

1833
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: or what have you. And you know, I don't I

1834
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 1: think that was to be somewhat unexpected. Again just based

1835
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 1: on everything. Everything today is unexpected, but in terms of

1836
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 1: what a little bit of insight we were getting at

1837
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 1: the time. So I mean, it's really you know, it's

1838
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 1: just hard to know where, where where this goes and

1839
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:26,759
Speaker 1: what to what to think. And I think that's the problem.

1840
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't know. UM. One of the takes that

1841
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 1: in the UM is the survey on the athletic was

1842
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: from from an agent that said, basically, the NFL, by

1843
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: its nature is a sport where injuries happen all the time,

1844
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: and it's a next man up mentality and that they

1845
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 1: this agent believe that that's the take that the NFL

1846
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: will go with that if players can get COVID nineteen

1847
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: and have to sit out, they'll just okay, who's next?

1848
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: What do we have to who was the sign up?

1849
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: Somebody off the street that ultimately, on some level, the

1850
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 1: products can suffer as long as the games happened. If

1851
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: we put people out in out on the field that

1852
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: are wearing a Flo Bill's jersey and Dallas Cowboys jerseys

1853
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 1: were artists of who it is, that's okay, we just

1854
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: need to get this going and we'll have to keep

1855
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: moving forward no matter what that was one person's take.

1856
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the wrong take. I don't

1857
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. But ultimately definitely saw a lot

1858
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: of questions about how they're going to pull this off.

1859
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: On a much lighter note, Ben, you kind of had

1860
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: a question that at least lent to some entertainment value

1861
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: in the piece, and that was the biggest bit of

1862
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 1: nonsense that an agent may have been given wind of

1863
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: or saw the media report during the offseason, and not surprisingly,

1864
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of that at least initially circled around Tom

1865
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: Brady knowing he was going to be a free agent.

1866
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 1: That he was going to retire was something that I

1867
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: had heard and kind of laughed at. And that he

1868
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: was going to the Raiders was another one that I

1869
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 1: just couldn't wrap my head around when I heard it initially.

1870
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 1: But which one struck you the most in terms of,

1871
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: you know, the nonsense question that you posed to to agents. Yeah,

1872
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 1: I know, the Brady one was was a good one

1873
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 1: for for sure. Um, you know, I enjoyed the insight. Um.

1874
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 1: One of the agents said that, um, Jordan, you know,

1875
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Jordan Love was somewhat of a controversy. I'll pick in

1876
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: the first round by Green Bay, And the question was

1877
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 1: sort of like even beyond the Aaron Rodgers component, like

1878
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: why do it? Why why did they trade up to

1879
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: get this guy who wasn't considered a universal pick, And that,

1880
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, the agent said, and I've heard this myself,

1881
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,639
Speaker 1: but that that you know that that the Indianapolis culture

1882
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 1: were supposedly rumored to be interested in in a quarterback,

1883
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: which you know makes sense based on where the colds

1884
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: were at that moment, but that, um, that that that

1885
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,160
Speaker 1: was just you know, not not a realistic Uh not

1886
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: a realistic thing. Uh that that that that happened. But yeah,

1887
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: all the Brady stuff was good. I'll be honest, My

1888
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: my mind is somewhat fried covering this team that I

1889
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: be just even today with Washington had been twenty seven

1890
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: things have happened, so I paused that I don't remember

1891
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: off the top of my head everything from that people.

1892
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Speaker 1: The thing I love most about this question all the

1893
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Speaker 1: other ones, at least I had some sense of where,

1894
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,759
Speaker 1: where where this might go, and then this one no idea.

1895
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,600
Speaker 1: And that's what made it so interesting. Um there with

1896
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: so many spontaneous answers and um, you know, really really

1897
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: was interesting to see, you know, kind of where these

1898
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: guys minds went. We're talking with Ben Standing of the

1899
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 1: athletic and Washington your team, Well, I say, you're a team,

1900
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 1: Washington team. The football team is changing its nickname and

1901
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: they've retired the logo. They've retired the nickname that has

1902
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,200
Speaker 1: been so controversial over the last decade or so. Um,

1903
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: what are the front runners? How did it happen? Certainly

1904
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:42,720
Speaker 1: a lot of us think it was long overdue, but

1905
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 1: we also thought it would never happen. With Dan Schneider

1906
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:49,200
Speaker 1: his ownership. Certainly the economic pressures put on by Nike

1907
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,519
Speaker 1: and FedEx had something to do with it. But what's

1908
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: your Give us a synopsis of your opinion about what's

1909
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: going on in Washington and the new nickname. Yeah, I

1910
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: mean you said that you didn't think it would happen,

1911
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people had that reaction,

1912
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:04,679
Speaker 1: at least as long as Dan Snyder owned the team,

1913
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:09,080
Speaker 1: because he's been very emphatic on this topic previously, saying,

1914
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, will never happen. The difference to me why

1915
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: it's happening versus in the previous times, especially in the

1916
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: last decade where this topic was gaining momentum in the

1917
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: media or among you know, the citizens who said, hey,

1918
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 1: you guys got to change this thing and get it

1919
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 1: never happened. And I think that's because it was always

1920
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: an isolated topic. It was just on this particular name,

1921
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 1: and ultimately Dan Snyder was not feeling the pressure from

1922
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: outside forces that he cared about i e. Sponsors in

1923
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: the NFL. This time, though, the difference was that this

1924
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 1: momentum came connected with the larger topic of race in

1925
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: America that's been going on now for several weeks and

1926
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 1: it became impossible for everybody to bury their heads in

1927
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: the sands. You had obviously massive changes across the country.

1928
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 1: The state flag in Mississippi was was one of those things,

1929
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, taking down the Confederate statues. And once once

1930
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 1: the Washington team name guys sort of connected to that,

1931
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: to me, it sort of became apparent it would happen.

1932
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 1: Didn't necessarily know how quickly it would move. But then yeah,

1933
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 1: once FedEx in particular came out with a statement FedEx,

1934
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,679
Speaker 1: the CEO and founder of FedEx, Fred Smiths, is also

1935
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:23,120
Speaker 1: one of the minority owners of Washington football team. So

1936
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 1: and then we taught subsequently learned he and other minority

1937
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,839
Speaker 1: owners are trying to sell their shares or supposedly, according

1938
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 1: to a report, trying to buy Dan Snyder out. So

1939
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on on that front. Dan Snyder

1940
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't want to get there, but he ultimately didn't have

1941
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 1: much of the choice. Ironically, he could come out a

1942
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: big winner out of this because he's been also trying

1943
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: to build a new stadium and they were trying to

1944
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 1: build it on the old RFK site in Washington, DC

1945
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 1: where they were there the whole stadium went during the

1946
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 1: Joe Gibbs One Point era where they had so much success,

1947
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: But that's that that stadium was on federal land and

1948
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,560
Speaker 1: the federal government has said, hey, basically, as all of

1949
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: you have that name, you know you can you know,

1950
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 1: kick rocks like that's not happening now. If he's changing

1951
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 1: the name, I would imagine there's going to be a

1952
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: push to get that done. And if there's a point,

1953
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: if there is a new stadium in that spot, you know,

1954
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: imagining the NFL were awarding Washington DC a Super Bowl

1955
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: one day doesn't seem out of whack. So you know,

1956
01:46:19,680 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: if Dan Snyder plays this right from this point on,

1957
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,639
Speaker 1: he could probably come out ahead. But you know, he definitely,

1958
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 1: by all accounts, went to this kicking and screaming. Even

1959
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 1: the statement they put out yesterday saying this is officially

1960
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: done was just an incredibly generic statement for something that

1961
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: seems to be pretty pretty monumental. It was a few paragraphs,

1962
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Speaker 1: no quotes, no, no, that's it. So there's no real

1963
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 1: you can tell, there's no real joy of this coming

1964
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Speaker 1: from the organization. But you know, it got done, and

1965
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, they said a lot of people thouges be

1966
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 1: long overdue. We would be remiss if we didn't at

1967
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: least touch on the brief mentioned that Bill Jim Brandon

1968
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: Being got in. You know, you're right up on the athletic.

1969
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:07,919
Speaker 1: He kind of appeared there in the query to asians

1970
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,560
Speaker 1: about among general managers or front office execs, who is

1971
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 1: the smartest and while Roseman and Belichick got the most

1972
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:20,600
Speaker 1: votes collectively, I do know Being was mentioned there, and

1973
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:25,320
Speaker 1: you even used a quote from one of the agents

1974
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:27,320
Speaker 1: that you spoke to who said he was very advanced

1975
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: in his thinking, cutting edge operation. I'm just curious. You know,

1976
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,719
Speaker 1: you're on the Washington beat, so you're kind of looking

1977
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,559
Speaker 1: at the bills from afar, but just through your lens,

1978
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: what have you thought of Being's building project here with

1979
01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 1: the bills over these past three years. Yeah, I've been,

1980
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: you know, from a distance, I've been. I've been impressed.

1981
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to and I read our bills

1982
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 1: writer Matthew Fairburn's work, and i'd talk to him. I

1983
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,040
Speaker 1: remember back at the combine about about Being and what

1984
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 1: they've been doing, and I you know, the team had

1985
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: a really good run last year. I guess there's a

1986
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 1: lot of questions too, exactly what Josh Allen's upside and

1987
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 1: all that, but just you know, looking at a lot

1988
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 1: of the pieces he's put together, you know, it seems

1989
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,600
Speaker 1: like he's, uh, he's got some good things going on.

1990
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm somewhat particularly interested to a degree because of the

1991
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: connections you had with Carolina, and obviously Ron Rivera being

1992
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 1: is like the only former person out of that organization.

1993
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: I think he's not in Washington at this point. So yeah, no,

1994
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: I think I think he's I think he's done a

1995
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,400
Speaker 1: pretty good job. And yeah, there was only that one

1996
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 1: comment with you know, isn't to say a negative thing

1997
01:48:35,640 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 1: at all, because obviously there's you know, thirty two general

1998
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 1: managers active you could have picked. But uh, I've heard

1999
01:48:42,320 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: good things and you know, like I said, from a distance,

2000
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: it looks good. I almost feel sort of bad. You know,

2001
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: we'll see where Cam Newton has left. But it felt like, okay,

2002
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 1: here we go, finally changing of the guard. This is

2003
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 1: the year Buffalo is a free shot to win the

2004
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,640
Speaker 1: AFC East, and the Patriots like, oh yeah, hold on,

2005
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 1: we're not done yet. So it'll be interesting to see

2006
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 1: how that battle goes. For sure. Stevie on mute again. Sorry,

2007
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about that. Sorry about that. Ben, I was

2008
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:11,559
Speaker 1: on my had my microphone muted. You had this getting

2009
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 1: back to that remote and the rankings you had, you

2010
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: said Brandon Bean was doing a great job. And it

2011
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: brought to mind some of the things that were said

2012
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 1: about the teams that had the best off seasons, the

2013
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 1: teams that had the worst off seasons. One of the

2014
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 1: things that jumped out, and I keep forgetting about them.

2015
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Even though the Buffalo Bills lost to the Houston Texans

2016
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:30,879
Speaker 1: and the playoffs. Bill O'Brien is head coach, he's general manager.

2017
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: They're going without a general manager and said, but then

2018
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: he gave him the title. He made a trade during

2019
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: this offseason that everybody is still scratching their heads about.

2020
01:49:39,439 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 1: How do you how do you think it's gonna turn out?

2021
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: From from a distance, I mean, we're a thousand miles

2022
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 1: away here in Buffalo, and you're two thousand miles away

2023
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: in Washington. But when you look at the league as

2024
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: a whole, Bill O'Brien's situation in Houston, after going to

2025
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs and winning a playoff game a year ago,

2026
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to think of a guy being on more

2027
01:49:57,240 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 1: pins and needles than Bill O'Brien in Houston. Yeah, if

2028
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 1: if validation from your peers is important for job security,

2029
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't have much there was. I mean, you know,

2030
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 1: beyond this agent survey, obviously, everybody's been questioning, like you said,

2031
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: that trade to give up your best player or that

2032
01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 1: really being forced to and then not just to trade

2033
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, but to do it so that the return

2034
01:50:22,200 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 1: is you know, running back in David Johnson, who's good

2035
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: moments in his career, but at this point is considered

2036
01:50:27,320 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: it's not considered to be an all an, all pro

2037
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 1: level running back, but his contract is for an all

2038
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 1: pro level running back. And a lot of head scratchers

2039
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, no matter who, almost regardless no

2040
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: matter who the person was, whether you're talking about Bill

2041
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Belichick or Jerry Jones or whomever it was, in this survey,

2042
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, there was some positives to go with, even

2043
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 1: if the negatives that weighed the positives not. In the

2044
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: case for Bill O'Brien, it was pretty much universal. Wow,

2045
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: that what a disaster, and I think that probably led

2046
01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: to some piling on when it comes to you know,

2047
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 1: question is about you know, how much you buy into

2048
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: him as a gym. Do you how much you trust him?

2049
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: One of the questions involved who is the toughest negotiator?

2050
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 1: And I said, you can interpret this however you want.

2051
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 1: Some interpret it as tough, as as a real adversary

2052
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: like wow, I'm you know, I think I'm good. Wow,

2053
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 1: this guy is really good. But others took toughest as

2054
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: oh man, what a difficult pain in the you know

2055
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 1: what to deal with. And Bill O'Brien was certainly mentioned

2056
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: in that vein. So yeah, the thing about it is

2057
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: Houston has been, you know, a playoff team, right, and

2058
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 1: he's been a coach, So it's sort of weird in

2059
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 1: a certain in a certain sense, but it doesn't feel

2060
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: like he's helping his cause. I personally, I'm never a

2061
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 1: fan of the of the coach being the head of

2062
01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 1: the front office as well for a variety of reasons,

2063
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,960
Speaker 1: unless you're Phill Belichick. But in his case, it, you know,

2064
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: it does feel like he's not helping his own cause

2065
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: with some of the moves he's making. Ben, thanks for

2066
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: joining us, We appreciate it, Thanks for coming on with this.

2067
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,439
Speaker 1: We wish you good luck in the Washington sports scene

2068
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: in the coming season. If it does indeed happen, and

2069
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: whatever nicknamed the Washington NFL team chooses, we wish you

2070
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,040
Speaker 1: the best in covering them. Thanks for being on with us, guys,

2071
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,960
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. Ben Standig.

2072
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,240
Speaker 1: He's a staff writer for The Athletic covering the Washington

2073
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: sports scene. He's a former beat writer and a beat

2074
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,920
Speaker 1: reporter for NBC Sports in Washington. Steve Tasker Chris Brown

2075
01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna take a break here on One Bill's Live. We're

2076
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: gonna come back and we're gonna do NFL. True false.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio presented by Kalidah Health, and

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01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 1: this is One Bill's Live. Back in One Bills Live,

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01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown here till the top of the

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01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:43,799
Speaker 1: hour thanks to Ben Standig coming on from the Athletic

2081
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:46,200
Speaker 1: and also Field Yates was on earlier in the program.

2082
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: It's time now, Brownie, just put fasten your safety belts

2083
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 1: for NFL. True false. Brought to you by Yancy's Fancy,

2084
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Yancy's Fancy, New York's artists and Cheese. Are you ready, Brownie?

2085
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 1: Have you I'm ready? He's done your homework. Can research

2086
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 1: absolutely all right, Let's just find out where your opinion

2087
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: is the NFL NFL true? False? Number one, the NFL

2088
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 1: should take the UFC the Ultimate Fighting Championship approach to

2089
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 1: their return to play. Taylor to one, the right tack

2090
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 1: or left tackle for the Tennessee Titans, said UFC's weekend

2091
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:20,600
Speaker 1: event on UFC Island as the way to do it.

2092
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 1: Says NFL has better resources to do just that. Each

2093
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 1: team quarantine to a hotel camp style. Families can have

2094
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: visitations once a month or bi weekly or weekly or

2095
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 1: a family day. Family members will be tested and allowed

2096
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 1: in once a week once the test come back negative.

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01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: Let's do that, says Taylor to one. True or false, Brownie,

2098
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: The NFL should do it that way. Yeah, false. I

2099
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: don't see how you logistically make that happen. You're dealing

2100
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 1: with thirty two teams with ninety man rosters. UFC is

2101
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:58,200
Speaker 1: one fighter and two coaches, right, I mean, seriously, the

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01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: entire thing is like less than one one team. You're like,

2103
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's do the same thing as them on

2104
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: a scale of two thousand to one in terms of

2105
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: number of people. Get the heck out of Dodge. Not

2106
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:13,840
Speaker 1: only is that false, it's idiotic, Okay, do we agree.

2107
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: I think we do, Okay, I care NFL true false.

2108
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 1: Number two Belichick Brady's the greatest coach duo, coach player

2109
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: duo of all time. Yeah, I'm not gonna feel good

2110
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:29,439
Speaker 1: about this answer, but that's true. And the other the

2111
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: other ones are like, you know, Joe Walsh, Joe Montana,

2112
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, be the only one

2113
01:54:34,520 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 1: that's close. Montana, you know, Peyton and Breeze, Noel, Bradshaw,

2114
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 1: Lombardi Star. You know, there's a bunch of a there's

2115
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of combinations Stabak and Stobok and U Landry

2116
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:51,640
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I don't put Bradshaw and

2117
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Noel in the same category, even though they did win

2118
01:54:54,760 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: four together, is because they largely won well. They definitely

2119
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 1: won their first two Super Bowls because of defense, and

2120
01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: then the offense for the Steelers kind of caught up

2121
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 1: as as the defense was getting a little long in

2122
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 1: the tooth, you know, with Swan and Stalworth and Franco,

2123
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: and they carried more of the load. But for me,

2124
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Montana and Walsh were the architects of the success they

2125
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,880
Speaker 1: had in San Francisco. I mean, heck, think about this,

2126
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Montana was gone, Walsh retired, and George Seaford won with

2127
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:36,839
Speaker 1: Steve Young using the same system that was instituted by Walsh.

2128
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if that is not a feather in your

2129
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 1: cap to win a fifth super Bowl with a different quarterback,

2130
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: I'll be at a Hall of Famer as well and

2131
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 1: a rookie head coach. Yeah. I think that is. That's

2132
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: the epitath you probably put on Bill Walsh's headstone. I

2133
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with my system without even coaching,

2134
01:55:56,600 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 1: So it's just that's why him second, right, Not that

2135
01:56:01,360 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 1: George stepher wasn't a really good coach. He was, and

2136
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: Steve Young was obviously a Hall of Fame quarterback as well.

2137
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:09,360
Speaker 1: But your point, that thing ran itself, Yeah, exactly, and

2138
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: I think it was transformational. I think the one difference is,

2139
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: of course, and I agree with you. I think Belichick

2140
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 1: and Brady are going to go down to say the

2141
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: all time greatest, and for good reason. But it's, you know,

2142
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,240
Speaker 1: as always in these debates, it comes down to, well,

2143
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, back in the eighties, it was a different game.

2144
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 1: In the seventies, it was a different and it was

2145
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 1: it was before free agency, it was before all of

2146
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: that stuff. The league is a completely different animal now

2147
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 1: than it was in the nineteen eighties forty years ago,

2148
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: almost forty years ago. But by the same token, those

2149
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,480
Speaker 1: guys put together and were transformational for their era. Walsh

2150
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 1: and Montana changed the way NFL offenses worked and it

2151
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: was you got to give them a lot of credit

2152
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,480
Speaker 1: for that, and I do. But as far as success

2153
01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 1: as a duo for twenty years, nine nine super Bowl,

2154
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 1: six wins, it's a It's Bella Chick and Brady all day. Yeah.

2155
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,760
Speaker 1: And the other thing that you roll into that is,

2156
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: besides Brady, how many Hall of Famers are you going

2157
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: to have from those Patriot championship teams? You'll probably have

2158
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 1: a Gronk on that list. Randy Moss is already in,

2159
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 1: although he played there for two years and did not

2160
01:57:23,480 --> 01:57:28,200
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl with them. Richard Seymour seymour Ty

2161
01:57:28,360 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 1: law um, maybe Stefan Gilmore, um. But I guess my

2162
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: poor jorelle Reeves was there for a year on a

2163
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but he's not really gonna count as a Patriot,

2164
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 1: is he? I don't know, but I guess I guess.

2165
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: My point is you look at the Niners also, and

2166
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 1: all you have is Jerry Rice, Ronnie lott Um, Joe Montana,

2167
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:56,280
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, Roger and Braig. Oh, yeah, no he's not.

2168
01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:00,120
Speaker 1: He's not Hall of Famers. No, he's not. So my

2169
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: point here is, you win six titles, you win four titles,

2170
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 1: and the list of fellow Hall of Famers with you

2171
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:13,840
Speaker 1: is limited. I think it only raises the bar even

2172
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 1: more on those two tandems. Yeah, the one who gets

2173
01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 1: least amount of credit who's on this list, even as

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01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback who's playing now, is to me Drew Brees.

2175
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: He has only one one, he's won one, and he's

2176
01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: at one point in the league. In the history of

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01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 1: the in the history of the National Football League, there

2178
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 1: were eleven guys who had thrown for five thousand yards

2179
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: in a season. There were eleven quarterbacks season quarterbacks who

2180
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 1: had five thousand yards. I guess I'm not saying it right,

2181
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 1: but here's what it means. Drew Brees had five of them, Yeah,

2182
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: five of the nine. Everybody else had one, yeah, one,

2183
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,920
Speaker 1: And Drew Brees had five of them, right, And and

2184
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:04,880
Speaker 1: he didn't even get a whiff of the top one hundred.

2185
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 1: He wasn't even on the top ten. Quarterback list when

2186
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, when the ESPN did that big ranking last

2187
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 1: year in the hundred player, he wasn't even on the list. Yeah,

2188
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. I don't think that's right. And he will

2189
01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 1: probably be a Hall of Fame quarterback even though he

2190
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,360
Speaker 1: absolutely won title. At this point, Well, he's got a title,

2191
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 1: and he's his statistics are ridiculous, the most prolific. He's ridiculous.

2192
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: And you know what, San Diego let him go because

2193
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:34,839
Speaker 1: they were pretty sure he couldn't play well. They liked Philip.

2194
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 1: They had hitched their wagon to Philip Rivers. Well, they

2195
01:59:37,600 --> 01:59:39,840
Speaker 1: drafted Philip because they were pretty sure he didn't couldn't

2196
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: play right. And then he had I've used this, I've

2197
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 1: used this analogy a ton Brownie and this and all.

2198
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't get off. Yeah, we got time. I covered

2199
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 1: the end. I was covering the NFL when Drew Brees

2200
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 1: came out, right, and when Philip Rivers came out, and

2201
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:55,720
Speaker 1: when when Eli Manning all those guys come out. I

2202
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: was fresh into my CBS career, so I was I

2203
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: had done San Diego games A with Drew Brees, and

2204
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: you went in there in his first year or two

2205
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: or three in the league, and we were talking about

2206
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: and we were talking about his golf game and talking

2207
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,640
Speaker 1: about laughing around, yucking it up and stuff. Well, and he,

2208
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, he kind of he was okay, but you

2209
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 1: know they were, like they said, they were pretty sure

2210
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to be the guy in San Diego.

2211
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 1: Then San Diego drafts this guy, Philip Rivers. Well, they

2212
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 1: draft Eli, trade him to and trade him to New

2213
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: York for Phillips. Right, okay, so all that happens, they

2214
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 1: bring Philip Rivers in and Drew Brees sees and something

2215
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 1: clicks for him. He's like, what that draft pick of

2216
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers catapulted Drew Brees into a completely different realm

2217
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:48,120
Speaker 1: than he was before that. When I would changed the

2218
02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:52,400
Speaker 1: course of his career, there is absolutely, positively one percent,

2219
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:54,680
Speaker 1: in no way you can convince me otherwise. I watched it.

2220
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:58,400
Speaker 1: You go in there in those and he was a

2221
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: different guy after Philip Rivers got drafted. It was unbelievable.

2222
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 1: And you'll see too, that year was the year he

2223
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 1: got it. It all clicked for him, and that and

2224
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 1: then last last game of the year's third last game

2225
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 1: or whatever, he got his shoulder hurt, right, so he

2226
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 1: goes in and the and when he got his shoulder hurt,

2227
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:18,320
Speaker 1: that gave the San Diego Chargers the ability to go, Okay,

2228
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 1: he's hurt. Now we'll go with Philip Rivers, even though

2229
02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 1: he had this great season. We'll let he washed their

2230
02:01:24,520 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 1: hands of him. And he goes on to New Orleans

2231
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:30,920
Speaker 1: and you know, wins the title, is a perennial All Pro.

2232
02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 1: He's just he just does everything right. And San Diego has,

2233
02:01:34,480 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 1: even with Philip Rivers having a Hall of Fame career,

2234
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 1: continues to be the San Diego Chargers, even if they

2235
02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 1: are in LA. That motivation is the perfect example of

2236
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 1: what makes one player different from another player. It's all

2237
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: in between their ears, it's all in what, it's all

2238
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 1: in the know their heartbeat. I mean it. Drew Brees

2239
02:01:56,720 --> 02:01:59,400
Speaker 1: became a completely different football player, a guy who was

2240
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:03,320
Speaker 1: going to get asked over, pushed off to the side, replaced,

2241
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: and once he realized that that might happen, his motivation

2242
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 1: kicked in and it never stopped. And now he's going

2243
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 1: to go to the Hall of Fame and he's won

2244
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:12,720
Speaker 1: a World championship. I'm telling you, it was the most

2245
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,000
Speaker 1: amazing thing. One of the most amazing stories I've ever

2246
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,360
Speaker 1: been a part of as a broadcaster was watching the

2247
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:20,160
Speaker 1: transformation of Drew Brees go from just a guy to

2248
02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 1: an alteimer. Yeah. That's pretty interesting because you kind of

2249
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 1: when you see players like that, you kind of believe, oh, well,

2250
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 1: he's always had that, he wasn't They In fact, A J. Smith,

2251
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 1: the former Bill's GM, who was the director out there,

2252
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 1: who before he came back to Buffalo, he told me,

2253
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,520
Speaker 1: point blank, he goes, We're we're pretty sure he couldn't play.

2254
02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 1: And they watched him every day, you know, they watched

2255
02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 1: him progress and none that They just were pretty sure

2256
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't play until until they drafted another guy with

2257
02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 1: a first pick, and then he became a great player

2258
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:55,720
Speaker 1: because he was motivated. It's amazing. It's amazing to think

2259
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:58,640
Speaker 1: about that being the difference. You know, all right, that's

2260
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,720
Speaker 1: NFL true false number two. All right, NFL true false.

2261
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: Number three. Matthew Stafford is still MVP caliber quarterback. I'm

2262
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: false on that one. I think Stafford is a very

2263
02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:16,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback. I don't know that he's ever been MVP caliber,

2264
02:03:16,240 --> 02:03:18,800
Speaker 1: And maybe he's hurt by the fact that the Lions

2265
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 1: have been such a wayward franchise in general, But I

2266
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe in a better situation, I would think differently.

2267
02:03:26,320 --> 02:03:29,800
Speaker 1: He's had some ultra productive seasons. Two eleven's probably his

2268
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:32,560
Speaker 1: best career year. I think it was up around forty

2269
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards or something, and I think they made

2270
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs that year. But I think he's in the

2271
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 1: Hall of very good I guess is what I'm saying, Steve.

2272
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:47,120
Speaker 1: I think he's an MVP caliber quarterback that's passed his prime.

2273
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 1: There's no question he was a fantastic quarterback, an elite

2274
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 1: quarterback at times behind and he's playing for a team

2275
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:58,520
Speaker 1: much in the vein of Archie Manning did in New Orleans.

2276
02:03:58,600 --> 02:04:01,040
Speaker 1: He was the really great quarterback playing for a franchise

2277
02:04:01,080 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 1: that didn't know what to do with him and didn't

2278
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,360
Speaker 1: know how to support him. He was forever getting beaten

2279
02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: up and banged up because of the lack of talent

2280
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 1: around him. Uh. He was with a franchise at lacked

2281
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:14,680
Speaker 1: leadership and direction for a good portion of his career,

2282
02:04:14,760 --> 02:04:17,400
Speaker 1: if not all of his career, and I think he

2283
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,080
Speaker 1: has suffered physically for it, and his career numbers have

2284
02:04:20,200 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 1: suffered for it as well, particularly and and his physical being.

2285
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 1: You know, I respect Matthew Stafford. I think he's a

2286
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 1: really good player. Yeah, I just don't think he's MVP

2287
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:34,600
Speaker 1: caliber quarterback. Not now he's not. I don't think so.

2288
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:38,080
Speaker 1: But I think he was. Yeah. Well, when I say yeah,

2289
02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:40,680
Speaker 1: when I say Matthew Stafford, the first the first thing

2290
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: that comes to mind is that game where he dislocated

2291
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 1: his shoulder and then runs down the field and throwze

2292
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown pass. He dislocates his shoulder has

2293
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 1: come off the feed the time out, but in the

2294
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:57,600
Speaker 1: interim the other team calls a time out and he says, hey,

2295
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 1: they called a time out and I can now come

2296
02:05:00,240 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 1: back on the field. I'm going it was awesome. Yeah,

2297
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:06,560
Speaker 1: tell me that's not That is an MVP play right there.

2298
02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:11,200
Speaker 1: That is an all time leadership that is that is

2299
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 1: an all time moment for any quarterback who wants to

2300
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:15,240
Speaker 1: know what it takes to be in the NFL. That

2301
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,680
Speaker 1: right there, that is a dislocated shoulder on your non

2302
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 1: throwing arm. You're thinking, Ah, what's the big deal, But

2303
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 1: he's just okay, shoulder, He's got to take the snap

2304
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:31,320
Speaker 1: into that hand can you imagine how that felt taking

2305
02:05:31,400 --> 02:05:35,680
Speaker 1: the snap of a dislocated shoulder In normal society, you

2306
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:39,280
Speaker 1: don't even think about doing. And you're if you're an accountant,

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Speaker 1: you go home with a dislocated shoulder, let alone a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You you know, you stay at home. This guy goes

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Speaker 1: back in the game and then throws the deal and

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Speaker 1: throws the touchdown pass to win it. That right there,

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Speaker 1: that is an absolute, maybe one of the NFL's all

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Speaker 1: time great regular season kind of moments where you think, wow,

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Speaker 1: what a you know, what a courageous effort. That's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Even so that that to me, and I'm going on

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Speaker 1: that because I think it was awesome. I mean that

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Speaker 1: to me, if I'm a guy on that team, I

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Speaker 1: am polishing that guy's cleats for the rest of the

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Speaker 1: from the rest of my career. That is awesome. And

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Speaker 1: that that's right. That's what gets guys to stand up

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Speaker 1: a little taller on the sidelines. It's it's like the

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen fourth down play in the first half in

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Speaker 1: Dallas where he fumbles the snap, picks it up, shakes off,

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Speaker 1: a guy jumps over to accepts a hit, and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: the quarter on a quarterback sneak. That's the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing that lifts guys up. That's you know, that's Randall

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Speaker 1: Cunningham ducking under the sack by Bruce Smith in the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and then throwing a ninety five yard touchdown pass

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Speaker 1: in a Buffalo stay. You know, that's that kind of play,

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Speaker 1: right you see him once in a while. That's Barry

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Speaker 1: Sanders running through running through the Dallas Cowboys defense, right

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02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: when when all eleven guys got a shot at him

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Speaker 1: and he's and he ends up standing in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: You know that those kind of plays don't happen a lot,

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Speaker 1: but man oh man, when they do remember him, you

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02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 1: remember him big time because it's not just so much

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Speaker 1: this guy made a great play, it's about the emotion

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Speaker 1: and the meaning of it when it happened. And that's

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Speaker 1: matt That Matthew Stafford play that you're talking about. That's

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Speaker 1: the first day at any time somebody says his name.

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Speaker 1: It's an early thing. I think as an all timer,

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Speaker 1: and I and I'm you know, I'm you know who.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the Detroit Lions that you know.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Bills guy. So but I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: I appreciate plays like that, and that was one of them, definitely.

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Speaker 1: And when that guy's done, that's the play they're gonna call.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna recite when you know, when he's when he's

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Speaker 1: all said and done. The people in Detroit, they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: remember that because he was miked up and everything it was.

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Speaker 1: It was spectacular. I thought, all right, that was NFL

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Speaker 1: true false. Thanks Brownie, that was a good one. The

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Speaker 1: NFL True False brought to you by Yancy's Fancy New

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Speaker 1: York's artist, and She's coming back. We're gonna take a break,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back with what do We Learn? We

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Speaker 1: had a couple of good guests, Ben Standing from the

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Speaker 1: athletic Field Yates for me, ESPN, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: be back and after right after this one Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Clyde Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. What

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Speaker 1: Do We Learned? Brought to you by Skyworks, the official

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Speaker 1: construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills. Elder in

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Speaker 1: the program, we had Field ate to ESPN on and

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Speaker 1: asked him if there will be any preseason football this season.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, and it seems like the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing that the NFL. Let's be honest, the owners could

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Speaker 1: concede as part of a negotiation, because as we know

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Speaker 1: right now as we are speaking, the players and the

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Speaker 1: owners are really in the midst of an important negotiation,

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Speaker 1: about as important of a negotiations they've had in quite

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Speaker 1: some time. So I think that ultimately we don't play

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Speaker 1: any preseason games. I think that preseason will look I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say mysterious, but I think the coverage

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Speaker 1: during the month of August will be very, very different.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know what it looks like, people

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Speaker 1: are covering every beat of training camp practice during the

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Speaker 1: month of August under normal circumstances. I don't know that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the case this year. I think we

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Speaker 1: might be looking at coverage that feels almost more like

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Week. You'll have poor reports, You'll have small

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Speaker 1: updates here there, but it will not be anything close.

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Speaker 1: We're cut too. That was field h from ESPN. We

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Speaker 1: also had Ben standing of the athletic on today and

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Speaker 1: talking about the Washington football team changing its team name.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen. This momentum came connected with the larger

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Speaker 1: topic of race in America that's been going on now

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Speaker 1: for several weeks, and it became impossible for everybody to

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Speaker 1: bury their head in the sand. And once the Washington

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Speaker 1: team name guys sort of connected to that. To me,

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Speaker 1: it sort of became apparent it would happen. Didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: know how quickly it would move. But then yeah, once

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Speaker 1: FedEx in particular came out with a statement FedEx, the

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Speaker 1: CEO and founder of FedEx, Fred Smiths, is also one

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Speaker 1: of the minority owners of Washington football team. So and

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02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 1: then we subsequently learned he and other minority others are

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Speaker 1: trying to sell their shared or supposedly, according to a report,

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02:10:06,080 --> 02:10:09,280
Speaker 1: trying to buy Dan Snyder out. So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on on that. Fine, Dan Snyder didn't want to

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Speaker 1: get there, but he ultimately didn't have much of the choice.

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Speaker 1: That was Ben standing. Thanks to both field Yt and

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Speaker 1: Ben Steady for coming on with us today. That was

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Speaker 1: what we learned. Brought to you by Skywarks. Brownie. This

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Speaker 1: just coming in and as always, something happens right before

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Speaker 1: we go off the year. The Browns and Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: closing in on a five year extension where one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollars one of their top priority

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Speaker 1: the off season. Looks like Miles Garrett is gonna earn

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Speaker 1: a little cash. Yeah, and to just tell you how much,

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Speaker 1: it's looking like it's gonna be twenty five million dollars

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Speaker 1: in new money per year. I'd like to go that phrase. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: twenty five million new in new money this year. Oh

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Speaker 1: and then the four years after that as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Congratulations to Milescarrett if that indeed is

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Speaker 1: the case. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, we'll be back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: at noon. Big show for you tomorrow. Join us. We'll

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Speaker 1: be there between noon and three. One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow