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<v Speaker 3>the ticker Peyton's going to kind of like sneak attack us,

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<v Speaker 3>like you can throw up graphics and cards whenever. But

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<v Speaker 3>Peyton and I are communicating via text to figure out

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<v Speaker 3>like a run of show here. It has been a

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<v Speaker 3>frenzy already, but we are going to go kind of

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<v Speaker 3>How about it, boys, We've got to run a show

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<v Speaker 3>for all the trades here. But arm Layton newest report.

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<v Speaker 3>The Red Sox have made Marcelo Meyer available per Chrispintio,

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<v Speaker 3>that would potentially be for pitching. What is the value

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<v Speaker 3>of the asset that is Marcelo Meyer at this very moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think extremely high. I think because I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Things with Marcelo Meyer and I when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>the Red Sox in the way that they've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>handled some of the optics and what gets leaked and

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<v Speaker 1>what doesn't, I think other teams are going to do

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<v Speaker 1>their due diligence about just like, is this going to

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody that's going to come in and immediately work

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<v Speaker 1>really hard and do all the things that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to have him overcome the injury concerns that he's had

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. Like, I think some of the

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<v Speaker 1>team's frustration with Meyer has also kind of been aired

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<v Speaker 1>out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't really help your case. But I think when you.

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<v Speaker 1>Will get Meyer the player, I had two biggest concerns

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<v Speaker 1>with him as a prospect. One was swing and miss

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<v Speaker 1>and like how it would rear its head at the

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<v Speaker 1>big league level, And was injuries. And I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen both of those things be abundantly, you know, evident

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<v Speaker 1>in his big league tenure so far through one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen games. So I think he's a really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>second piece and a deal for a really good player

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<v Speaker 1>or in a swap for you know, a lesser big leaguer.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at this point, you know, there used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be burn resk there because like, what if Marcella Meyer

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<v Speaker 1>figures it all out, You're going to really be upset

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<v Speaker 1>if you moved him for you know, a reliever or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. I think at this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you care as much because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that burn rate becomes a little bit less concerning when

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<v Speaker 1>you still see the injury challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like he's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Wizard defensively, and though the bats to ball has gotten better,

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<v Speaker 1>you slug in three hundred through seventy games this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of things he has to overcome,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he's a change of scenery candidate.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, all right? So we just got news again reported

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<v Speaker 3>by Jeff pass At a ESPN that Elliott Ramos is

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<v Speaker 3>being traded from the San Francisco Giants to the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Yankees. Said, we're going to have to walk the

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<v Speaker 3>tight rope of reporting new news here and breaking down

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<v Speaker 3>new news immediately, but also catching you up on what

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<v Speaker 3>has happened today. So Peyton Genis, you can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like sneak attack us with any visual you may have

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<v Speaker 3>built for Elliott Ramos go to the Yanks. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna start with probably the biggest move of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>and it pertains to the Boston Red Sox and the

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<v Speaker 3>team that's dangling Marcelo Meyer. Adlei Rutchman is the newest

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<v Speaker 3>member of the Boston Red Sox. Adlie Rutchman, Jake Rogers,

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<v Speaker 3>another catcher, Trek Scooble's best friend that was just dfaid

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<v Speaker 3>by Detroit and picked up by Baltimore. Rutchman, Rogers and

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of cash go from Baltimore to Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>The return another catcher, Carlos Norvayez, but the big ticket

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<v Speaker 3>return the top pitching prospect in the Red Sox organization,

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<v Speaker 3>right hander Anthony Ironsen, along with the right hander Kison Witherspoon,

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<v Speaker 3>who was their first round pick last year, Andya Zokar,

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<v Speaker 3>an outfield prospect and then a player to be named later.

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<v Speaker 3>So Craig Breslow pushes the chips in here, Peter, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to start with you. Adlie Rutchman stays in division,

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<v Speaker 3>he goes from Baltimore to Boston. What is your knee

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<v Speaker 3>jerk reaction to that?

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<v Speaker 4>So my knee jerk reaction was, first of all, you

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<v Speaker 4>traded Adlie Rutchman. That in and of itself, like you

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<v Speaker 4>came up with that prediction during our trade deadline prediction.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a nice call, by the way, and it seemed

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<v Speaker 4>even a little bit outlandish, not because it's not understandable

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<v Speaker 4>from the Orioles perspective, in order to trade Adli Rutchman,

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<v Speaker 4>and when you've already extended Samuel Bissillo is kind of

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<v Speaker 4>your catcher of the future. But still the idea of

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<v Speaker 4>trading Adli Rutchman, especially when he's not a rental, when

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<v Speaker 4>he's got a year and a half of control, is

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<v Speaker 4>just rather shocking. And then you tell me you traded

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<v Speaker 4>him in division, you better have gotten a hall. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'll throw it over to Arum about the hall, but

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<v Speaker 4>I know we both agree the O or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>the Red Sox had to pay a big indivision tax

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<v Speaker 4>because I wanted Adlee a ton as a Yankees fan.

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<v Speaker 4>But once I saw the return, I was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>Red Sox, you earned him, arned them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean they paid the indivision tax.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think with the uncertainty around like Baseball next

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<v Speaker 1>year too, it's like, you better hope we got a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty full season. But I think the biggest thing, too,

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<v Speaker 1>is you wonder if the Red Sox feel pretty confident

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<v Speaker 1>that they can extend you know, Adlie Rushman there, and

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<v Speaker 1>if that's something that's that's part of this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because I just I think with how much you gave

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<v Speaker 1>up here, you got to feel like you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>shot to do that. Because I'm all for buying and

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<v Speaker 1>being aggressive, and I think the Red Sox and the

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<v Speaker 1>way this team has played, should absolutely do that. Adleie

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<v Speaker 1>really elevates his team ceiling and a switch hitter and

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<v Speaker 1>what he brings to the table and the defensive ability

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<v Speaker 1>it goes him working with this pitching staff. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many exciting wrinkles to this. However, it's a lot. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot. It's one of the stronger packages I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember for you know, one and a half years

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<v Speaker 1>of a player here and when you look at like

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting Anthony Jinson to lead it off, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's been We talked about him as breakout prospect

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<v Speaker 1>going into this year, kind of everybody did, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's gone out there and not only broken out, but

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<v Speaker 1>just has done every single thing that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most bullish people would have hoped for,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the stuff is better, but the command is

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<v Speaker 1>right there, and he's just overwhelming hitters now even at

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<v Speaker 1>the upper levels. The guy that was drafted ahead of him,

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<v Speaker 1>their first round pick, Kyson Witherspoon. It's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>by low opportunity is a first round pick that has

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<v Speaker 1>struggled as the Red Sox tried to clean up his

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<v Speaker 1>delivery a little bit. His arm action is stabby, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think as they tried to smooth it out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>caused him command and consistencies and the field for breaking

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<v Speaker 1>balls hasn't totally been there. But this is a first

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<v Speaker 1>round talent that you're kind of buying low on as

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<v Speaker 1>he struggled that change the scenery, see if you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of revamp things and get him back to where

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<v Speaker 1>he was. And then India's ocar has huge, huge upside here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a really fun third piece. Potentially

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a bat that at nineteen years old

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<v Speaker 1>has already popped eggs of velosites his highs one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen, good field to pull the ball in the

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<v Speaker 1>air that I think is going to translate that into

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<v Speaker 1>potentially easy plus power as he grows. And there's some

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<v Speaker 1>speed athleticism as well. Just those three guys alone are

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy return for a year and a half, badly

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<v Speaker 1>And I get it. Like, I'm not saying it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad trade, it's just for the O. It's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to trade in division, this helps justify it

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like Jack, when you saw this trade too, it

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<v Speaker 4>was just it was mind blowing. I think back and

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<v Speaker 4>I was looking at the biggest Indivision trades over the

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<v Speaker 4>last I don't know, twenty twenty five, thirty years, and

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<v Speaker 4>I thought this might be the biggest ever since nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety nine when the Blue Jays traded Roger Clemens to

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<v Speaker 4>the Yankees in exchange for David Wells. Now, there have

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<v Speaker 4>been some big ones along the way, but that it's

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<v Speaker 4>felt like the biggest. To me, Adley is a top

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<v Speaker 4>five catcher in the game, and this hall is massive.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one of the coolest trades I've seen in

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<v Speaker 4>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>It is cool. I will pump the brakes on being

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest Inner Division trade since Roger Clemens in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine because Adley Rutchman is not who Adley Richmond

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<v Speaker 3>once was. He just isn't. Over the last two years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the three point eight War. He's been on the

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<v Speaker 3>shelf what three separate times this season already you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>damaged goods Adlie. But he's still a very good baseball player,

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about that. But is he a catch

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<v Speaker 3>six days a week guy anymore? Doesn't seem like it.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't been doing that for Baltimore and Baltimore clearly

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<v Speaker 3>favored the young catcher with the better bat right now

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<v Speaker 3>in Samuelbisio over Adley Ruchman. That's why he was possibly expendable.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't well, we're reluctant to deal with Superstar. But

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<v Speaker 3>to your point, there's that intra division tax that you

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<v Speaker 3>have to pay. So again, Addlie Rutchman goes from Baltimore

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<v Speaker 3>to Boston. We've got another big deal that went Anaheim

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<v Speaker 3>to Toronto. And first and foremost, slight golf clap for

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<v Speaker 3>the La Angels getting John mose Lock in there and

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<v Speaker 3>Ardi Moreno giving John mose Lock the ability to move. Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the first time we've ever seen the Angels

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<v Speaker 3>sell when they should have sold fifteen times over the

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<v Speaker 3>course of the last seventeen or eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think that was Perry then that more

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like I want to operate this way,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you think it was more mosay Lock finally

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'm going to change my ways. I'm firing or

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<v Speaker 1>not mosaic excuse me, the already saying I'm gonna change

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<v Speaker 1>my ways. I can't. It's it's like the toxic relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to grow up as a person. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of this this bad friend that helps me do

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<v Speaker 1>bad things, and we like and break up with them,

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<v Speaker 1>or just break off with that friend and let me

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<v Speaker 1>bring in somebody better, smarter, more experience, and let's start

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<v Speaker 1>to try to do business.

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<v Speaker 2>The right way here.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that was more of what it was like

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<v Speaker 1>Perry was more of a signaling of a new approach

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<v Speaker 1>for Artie, who wowed good self awareness to finally come

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<v Speaker 1>around here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really don't think it was a Perrymanassi and

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<v Speaker 3>John Mozae lock problem. I think Perry probably wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>run the team a little bit different than the way

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<v Speaker 3>Arty Moreno wanted him to run the team. And once

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<v Speaker 3>Arty Moreno fired Perry Manassi and it kind of sort

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<v Speaker 3>of seemed like it was time for an entire overhaul.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Artie Moreno is understanding of that. Artie Moreno,

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<v Speaker 3>over the course of his life has made a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money. That means he's made a lot of good

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<v Speaker 3>decision and I think he can probably look himself in

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<v Speaker 3>the mirror and say, we're the butt of every joke

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball right now. We've officially overtaken the Rockies. So

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<v Speaker 3>You've got that going on here, But do want to

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<v Speaker 3>get into that again. We're trying to like toe the

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<v Speaker 3>line of being ready to react to immediate reporting while

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<v Speaker 3>also going back and recapping the best deals of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Your smiling arm. What just came through?

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<v Speaker 1>I think kind of exactly what I was saying about

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<v Speaker 1>what Marcelo Myers value probably is at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Traded for a reliever, You nailed it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I was waiting for Jack to usher the

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<v Speaker 4>trade because I wanted you to kind of you caught

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<v Speaker 4>the alley oop earlier on to the show, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you just dunked it. He got traded for a reliever.

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<v Speaker 4>I like Eric Miller. I like Eric Miller. He was

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<v Speaker 4>traded for a reliever.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, and that's a very crowded infield. I understand Casey

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<v Speaker 3>Schmid's hurt, but fascinating. All right, let's actually talk about

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<v Speaker 3>this Halo deal and then we can circle back on

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<v Speaker 3>Elliott Ramos and Marcelo Meyer. I do want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Jose Sorianum going from the La Angels to the

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto Blue Jays. Jose Soriano was one of the more interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>possibly available names on the pitching market this year. And

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<v Speaker 3>Soriano makes his way from Anaheim to Toronto for Argin d'mala,

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<v Speaker 3>their second best prospect Eddie mcletty and right hander on

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<v Speaker 3>hell Rivero as well three Paspec return arm lighton the

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<v Speaker 3>big ticket name here is Argin Damala. Kind of want

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<v Speaker 3>to kick it over to you. First initial thought on

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<v Speaker 3>Soriano joining the Jays and Themala being traded by.

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<v Speaker 2>Toronto, Yeah, kind of surprising, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we thought Toronto might sell nothing crazy, not

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<v Speaker 1>like go nut sell, but sell some rental pieces and

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<v Speaker 1>call it today. But I think they on opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>position themselves for the next couple seasons and they go

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<v Speaker 1>get Soriano, who I think they're even going to probably

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<v Speaker 1>tweak his usage even a little bit more and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get away from the four seamer. We'll see what they

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<v Speaker 1>do there, but a guy that's clearly going to bolster

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<v Speaker 1>their rotation for I mean the rest of this season,

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<v Speaker 1>which that doesn't matter as much, and then two more

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<v Speaker 1>after that, maybe they extend and we'll see the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>and most surprising part is you usually just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>prospects of Argent Namala's caliber traded at the deadline, and

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<v Speaker 1>by that, like Yeah, you see some borderline top one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You see like big packages that we've talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>But Namala for us, the top thirty prospect, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to stick it shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>He's their former first round pick. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He's had a little bit of turbulence, which was to

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<v Speaker 1>be expected as one of the youngest players in the

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<v Speaker 1>draft class, but has just continued to get better and

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<v Speaker 1>was a big riser for us, as we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>on the call up, because he added more power, the

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<v Speaker 1>bats of ball got better, the approach got better, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had settled into it now double a in his

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<v Speaker 1>age twenty season where he's been really productive. A little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a hamstring issue, you know, delayed a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but has been back and swinging yet again.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you have plus raw.

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<v Speaker 1>Power the ability to stick it short, that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that I feel like a team is quick to

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<v Speaker 1>move off of. And that was surprising for me. I

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<v Speaker 1>get that you're getting two and a half year, two

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty years here of Soriana, but this year is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wiped out, so I was a bit surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, they upgraded their

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<v Speaker 1>big league team, and you know, Namal is still a

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<v Speaker 1>year plus away. And I think this was as good

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<v Speaker 1>of a get for the Angels though. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>just the Angels operating, which is exciting. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it with the Rockies, like seeing them just operate, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the Angels operate here. John mose look had some of

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<v Speaker 1>his shortcomings in Saint Louis. It felt like the game

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<v Speaker 1>kind of passed them by a little bit. But the

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<v Speaker 1>guy knows the process, he knows how to do things,

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<v Speaker 1>and compared to what they were doing before and Anaheim,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a signal.

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<v Speaker 2>Of I think better days ahead for Angels fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Peter, what do you think about the fit of

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<v Speaker 3>Jose Soriano going from Anaheim to Toronto when Soriano is

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<v Speaker 3>controllable for two more years beyond this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I really commend GM Ross Atkins for a deal

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<v Speaker 4>like this because I think a lot of gms, especially

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<v Speaker 4>those on teams that had high expectations and then kind

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<v Speaker 4>of fell down and don't look like a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 4>Per Fang Grafts, the Blue Jays only have about a

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<v Speaker 4>six percent chance of making the playoffs, So a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of those gms might just say all right, We'll sell

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<v Speaker 4>off expiring pieces and go get him next year. But

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<v Speaker 4>ross Akins said, I'm not going to be put in

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<v Speaker 4>this arbitrary buyer or seller bucket. I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 4>the best moves for my team moving forward. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think this was a great move and it sets up

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<v Speaker 4>a really strong rotation next year with Dylan Ceese at

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<v Speaker 4>the top, Jose Soriano, Trey Is Savage, and then they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get Cody Ponce back as well. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think there was also a move Dalton Varshow in exchange

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<v Speaker 4>for Spencer Arraghetty, so maybe he's there five. So I

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<v Speaker 4>really appreciate Atkins. Isn't just your normal seller, right he

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<v Speaker 4>gave away Gosman. He could have said all right, deadline

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<v Speaker 4>over or traded away Varshow and just kind of gotten

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit complacent, but he said, no, we still

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<v Speaker 4>have an elite team here. We went to the freaking

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<v Speaker 4>World Series last year and I'm going to continue to

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<v Speaker 4>build and Soriano Argientamal is a great piece. But they

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<v Speaker 4>also have Jojo Parker who could potentially be their shortstop

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<v Speaker 4>of the future as well. Not sure about that. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to throw that over to Arum just at least

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<v Speaker 4>another shortstop of note, So I really like the move

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<v Speaker 4>from Atkins.

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<v Speaker 3>Arm quick pushback from you on the Parkernmala conversation, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I want to cap the Blue Jay thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've saw that point made by a few And

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<v Speaker 1>my thing with that is, like, if you're trading an

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<v Speaker 1>upper minors shortstop prospect.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you have a low way.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortstop prospect that's swinging it pretty well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if that would be the best process. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this was just them really just wanting Jose Soriano and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's a little bit easier just knowing that at

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<v Speaker 1>least you have somebody else that can really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>project into that guy. But I still have some concerns

0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 1>if Parker can stick it short like in Namala is

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<v Speaker 1>an above average shortstop. But I agree with everything Peter

0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 1>said in terms of like the process for the Jays here,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a team that is not all that

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<v Speaker 1>different from the team that made it to the World

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Series and almost won it, Like with some of these

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<v Speaker 1>bolstered pieces here and just this season's loss, a lot

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of shit didn't go their way. Running it back next

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<v Speaker 1>year with a little bit of a better luck and

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.600
<v Speaker 1>then the year after that with the same core that

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>got there. Yeah, you lost a couple of small pieces,

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:11.679
<v Speaker 1>but you tap able to jolt it like this, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is exciting and there I guess they're hoping that

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.239
<v Speaker 1>they're going to be able to replenish a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the farm system with some of the smaller trades.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a steep price to pay, but if Jose Soriano

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<v Speaker 1>is a mid rotation starter for you for the next

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<v Speaker 1>two years after this, I think it's worth it, assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that the blue Jays are remotely competitive, which is ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>the expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, real quick, just want to tie a bow on

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<v Speaker 3>the blue Jay thought, because I think Peter hit the

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<v Speaker 3>nail on the head, like this was certainly the blip

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.800
<v Speaker 3>in the radar season, and there were a whole bunch

0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:43.880
<v Speaker 3>of things that went wrong right away, Like mind you,

0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 3>the blue Jay slide. This season was effectively shot at

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the year, and they had this climb

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<v Speaker 3>back to relevance and then this stooped down a couple

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 3>of weeks ago, but April did them in. And it

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:59.280
<v Speaker 3>goes back to like the age old adage, you can't

0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 3>win a division in April. But you can certainly lose

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 3>a division in April, and Toronto lost a division in April,

0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 3>and it was injury related, right, No, you Savage for

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 3>the first couple of months really stunk. Ponce getting hurt

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.879
<v Speaker 3>right away, really stunk Alejandro Kirk getting hurt right away,

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.919
<v Speaker 3>Springer getting hurt right away. They had so many guys

0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.640
<v Speaker 3>in that lineup that got hurt, while Okamoto was underwhelming

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 3>for the first month and a half of his career,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Vladdie, I mean, Vladdy hasn't hit the ball

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<v Speaker 3>out of the ballpark. And you think that that's coming

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<v Speaker 3>to correct itself next year. You will see a better

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<v Speaker 3>version of the Blue Jays next year. I promise you.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the tenth percentile outcome this year of the

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<v Speaker 3>Toronto Blue Jays. And if we get the sixtieth percentile,

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<v Speaker 3>they're a wild card team, no doubt, and they're probably

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<v Speaker 3>competing for second that division. And if we get the

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<v Speaker 3>seventy fifth or eightieth percentile next year, especially with Soriano

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<v Speaker 3>and Ponce and Sees and Y Savage, that can be

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<v Speaker 3>a really dangerous team and a World Series caliber team

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as next year. Take us to one of

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<v Speaker 3>the newer moves here the Yankees. They finally do something

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<v Speaker 3>to address the offense. Mark fine Stand reported the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Yankees. The New York Yankees they not only acquired

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<v Speaker 3>Luis Garcia Junior yesterday last night, they also go and

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<v Speaker 3>get Elliott Ramos from the San Francisco Giants. So Elliott

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<v Speaker 3>Ramos is officially a New York Yankee. Henry l Lane

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be the primary prospect in the return.

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<v Speaker 3>Elliott Ramos is a masher, particularly against left handed pitching.

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<v Speaker 3>He brings some thump to that lineup, Peter, where do

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<v Speaker 3>your concerns sit with Elliott ramos.

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<v Speaker 4>Defense and his ability to hit right handed pitching? And

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<v Speaker 4>he's one of those players too where where when you

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<v Speaker 4>watch him enough consistently, Consistency is not a part of

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<v Speaker 4>his game. It's a lot of ebbs and flows. However,

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<v Speaker 4>at the top of the mountain, he could be a really,

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<v Speaker 4>really solid player and provide a ton of explosion at

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<v Speaker 4>the plate. But at the bottom he's swinging and missing

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<v Speaker 4>too much, and the defense has I've seen some horrific

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 4>plays out there in left field. But the Yankees they're

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<v Speaker 4>not acquiring Elliott Ramos to be their everyday left fielder.

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 4>They're acquiring Elliott Ramos to be a soft, slide, soft

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<v Speaker 4>side of the platoon bat and against left handed pitching.

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<v Speaker 4>This season, he's rocking a one to twenty seven WRC plus,

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<v Speaker 4>which means he's been twenty seven percent above the league

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<v Speaker 4>average rate against left handed pitching, which is exactly what

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 4>the Yankees need. And I was a little bit surprised

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<v Speaker 4>to see Henry Lallane as the main prospect in this deal.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the Giants are getting a really good, young

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<v Speaker 4>pitching prospect, but then you have to remember that Elliott

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<v Speaker 4>Romos comes with what three and a half years of control,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's really cheap as well. But ultimately, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>the Giants did pretty well here, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 4>the Yankees the clock is running out on them on

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<v Speaker 4>their ability to acquire a right handed bat. Don't love

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<v Speaker 4>this one, don't. I don't hate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't love it either, arm as disagreement on something

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<v Speaker 3>you said.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's just one of those where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that you're gonna have to kind of bargain ben

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<v Speaker 1>shot for right handers.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, there's just not that many right handed.

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<v Speaker 1>Bats out there, so I don't hate like the creativity,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they gave up somebody more and more impactful,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. What's interesting is is Lelane has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot there's a lots of dream on there, but like

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<v Speaker 1>emphasis on the dream side. Now he's taking a big

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<v Speaker 1>step forward here, and I think when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the the Giants organization and what you can bring to

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<v Speaker 1>the table here, it's the exact kind of guy you

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<v Speaker 1>want to probably get in a deal like this, but

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>giving out cheap he is and and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they can unlock something the Yankees with with Ramos or

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<v Speaker 1>help him improve in some areas. I think it's at

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<v Speaker 1>least interesting from that perspective. Lane has had a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice year. Injuries have limited him and and have also

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<v Speaker 1>caused the velocity to fluctuate.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's six foot seven two and eleven pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely gotten stronger this year as he's gotten healthier,

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and his fastball is up two ticks so now averaging

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets good extension down the mount obviously with.

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<v Speaker 1>How big he is, and the secondaries have been a

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>work in progress, but that the change up has always

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<v Speaker 1>been there for him, and that's a pitch that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like has gotten a lot better this year as well,

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<v Speaker 1>feel wise, and then he's trying to find that breaking ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not as much.

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<v Speaker 1>He's clearly a pronator, but the fastball change up combination

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<v Speaker 1>from a six to seven lefty is really fun to

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of dream on. He's twenty two years old, still

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>hasn't pitched above high A, but he had a lot

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>of success at low way and it started to settle in.

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<v Speaker 2>At high A. So I think it's a fun get

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<v Speaker 2>for the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>But one, if you're the Yankees, I don't think you're

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>losing a ton of sleepover. It's probably a player that

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you look at all of the arms

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<v Speaker 1>that the Yankees have, not the end of the world

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<v Speaker 1>to keep trading a.

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<v Speaker 3>Few another fun one that Peyton just fleshed up on

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<v Speaker 3>the screen. If you're with us on YouTuber x, and

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<v Speaker 3>thank you all very much for again joining us here

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<v Speaker 3>on our MLB draft or on not our MLB draft,

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<v Speaker 3>on our MLB Trade deadline live stream. I can't conflate

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<v Speaker 3>all the live streams. Man Ken Rosenthal reporting the Brewers

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 3>are working to acquire reliever Antonio Senzatela from the Colorado Rockies.

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<v Speaker 3>This is about forty five minutes removed from Milwaukee going

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 3>to acquire Dustin May and Jojo Romero from the Saint

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Louis Cardinals. So an interesting one that we can dissect momentarily.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to take us to one of the

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<v Speaker 3>more disappointing deadlines. Credit to you, Peter Apple, the Atlanta Braves.

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<v Speaker 3>We have thirty minutes to go until the MLB trade

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<v Speaker 3>deadline at six pm Eastern time. But the Atlanta Braves

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 3>have been active. But just how active is this? The

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Braves acquire Tyler Malley from San Francisco for right hander

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Molina. They acquire lefty bullpen arm Brent Souiter from

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 3>the Angels for Nacho Alvarez Junior. And they also go

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 3>and get Lane Thomas and Bailey Falter from the Royals

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 3>for Lucas Brow and Carter Holton. There's not much sex

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 3>appeal here for the Atlanta Braves, like if they were

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 3>gonna go be a big swinger, this is not the

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 3>deadline you want to see if you're Braves fans. Again,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 3>there's thirty minutes left. They can go do something much bigger,

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 3>But Atlanta, you're right, Peter, this is just kind of

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 3>a dud from them at this deadline. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>The reason I made this prediction was I was looking

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 4>at the Braves roster and I said, all right, the

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 4>Braves don't actually need anything, which means Alexanthopolis is not

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 4>going to trade from his farm system in order to

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 4>get big time pieces, because that's what Alexanthopolis does. And

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 4>I go back and forth on him because on one hand,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 4>I fully recognize what an incredible job he's done overall

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 4>with the Braves, but then at the same time, I

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 4>can understand Braves fans' frustrations where they feel like he

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:58.280
<v Speaker 4>never does the big time move, the big swing, right,

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 4>and the Dodgers are making big swing. There's other teams

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 4>who are making big swings. We just talked about the

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 4>Adley deal right where it was a quote unquote overpay.

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 4>Other teams are overpaying, but they're getting the guy and

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to make a run at the playoffs, while

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 4>the Braves are making the model win type moves, the

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 4>bargain bin moves. Well, we think we can get more

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 4>out of this guy who's pitched to a thirteen era

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 4>this season, And that was my worry with the Braves

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 4>because unless they absolutely needed something, I said, they're probably

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 4>not going to do much then and now it's not nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>Lane Thomas is a nice addition, right, he could certainly

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 4>hit left hand handed pitching. They'll slot in nicely to

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 4>their outfield. We said that was one of their needs.

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 4>They got a starting pitcher, Tyler Mallley, who did look

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.600
<v Speaker 4>good in his last start, like he does slot into

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 4>the back end of their rotation. But I think Jack

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 4>when we were an arm two, when we were all

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 4>having the discussion about the Braves, we wanted it too

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 4>because we thought relying so fully Spencer Schwellenbach to come

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<v Speaker 4>back from full health is putting a lot on him.

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<v Speaker 4>So we were hoping they would make a big swing,

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<v Speaker 4>even for a Casey mice right, But instead they get

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 4>Tyler Malley. And I feel like they have seven Tyler

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 4>Malley's in house. Am I wrong?

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Are them?

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Don't they have seven of these guys? Yeah?

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>They do.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I just kind of felt like it

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>might just be an ing z eating, like just just

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>insurance policy move, and they just that we haven't seen

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>anything else yet. I'm still holding my breath, like myes

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>felt like the perfect fit, and I still feel like

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of world where that happens at the deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>so like, we got another twenty seven minutes here, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. But yeah, it does just kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that classic Braves deadline where they make some of

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<v Speaker 1>those secondary additions to just kind of help bolster them

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the regular season run and they

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<v Speaker 1>trust in their guys.

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<v Speaker 3>how they do. How about this bomb that Peyton Gen

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<v Speaker 3>has just dropped on us Foster Griffin, who signed a

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<v Speaker 3>one year deal coming over from Japan in All Star

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 3>for the Washington Nationals this year, and it was reported

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<v Speaker 3>by Buster Only a ESPN that they could be interested

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<v Speaker 3>the Washington Nationals in working out extension with Foster Griffin.

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<v Speaker 3>The slide right before the deadline per Robert Murray sends

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<v Speaker 3>Foster Griffin from Washington to Cleveland. Cleveland, mind you, is

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<v Speaker 3>the only team in Major League Baseball that hasn't used

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 3>a sixth starting pitcher this year. They've had five guys

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>start a baseball game for them. They have had supreme health,

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and they add an All Star starting pitcher to the fold.

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 3>My initial thought is do they go six man rotation here?

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 3>My other thought is, holy smokes, Cleveland looks good right now.

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Griffin is a blast to watch, just perform surgery on

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 3>the mound every fifth day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad the Guardians made this move because one,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't Foster Griffin the most Cleveland Guardians pitcher you've ever seen?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Messik to Griffin will be the most

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating series of all time and obviously if Gavin Williams

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<v Speaker 2>leading to notf but I'm thinking about those two lefties

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<v Speaker 2>would drive me insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the best and then you got can Tillo is

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<v Speaker 3>like this wild card out of the pen. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be so much fun.

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 4>And you know what, we gave a golf clap to

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 4>the Angels for finally, you know, going in that type

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 4>of direction. How about the Cleveland freaking guardians.

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 3>Like Joe Adelin, Foster.

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 4>And Foster Griffin. And that's what I'm talking about, guardians

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 4>like we want to go win this shit. So I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's a great job by Cleveland. I'm just curious

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 4>what the return is for Foster Griffin because like Jack

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<v Speaker 4>All Star having a fantastic season, what are the Nationals

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<v Speaker 4>going to get in return? I want to see to

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<v Speaker 4>Bony cook.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he's been cooking, mind you, so really fun here,

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<v Speaker 3>arm What do you make of Foster Griffin's year? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you see sustainability?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I was waiting for like month, two,

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<v Speaker 1>month three in there for that to start to like

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<v Speaker 1>just for him to regress a little bit, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a large enough sample size where the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is just good enough, when paired with the surgical aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of his ability in the man that you mentioned Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>that he's just going to be incredibly consistent, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you paired just the field of pitch that he has

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<v Speaker 1>the deep bag of offerings. I mean, it's like there's

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<v Speaker 1>six different offerings that he can come at you with

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a seventh that whole technically throwing there. And even

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<v Speaker 1>when he doesn't have it that day with one of

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>his offerings, he can pivot to another one and execute.

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>So I love this get for the Guardians.

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>It raises their ceiling too, because he's better than I

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know who gets displaceds at Cantillo.

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Would it be Cantillo that gets displaced?

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I think, would it be Secconi?

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought, yeah, probably say Jacconi.

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>You move him out of the rotation, raises the ceiling

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in that rotation, and now you've got three different guys

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that you feel really good about getting the ball, and

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>then of course still a fourth solid one.

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 3>Four players reportedly going back to Washington from Cleveland for

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 3>Foster Griffin, so excited to see who those four players are. Also,

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Peyton will allow you time to build out the graphic.

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 3>But the Minnesota Twins, Peters Twins getting Jeff Hoffman from

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the Toronto Blue Jays. Damn, they're going in. We talked

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:49.479
<v Speaker 3>about the Braves and their disappointing deadline. It was pretty

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.880
<v Speaker 3>disappointing for Philly until this morning when they go and

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 3>get the premier bat to ball guy in Major League

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Baseball and Luisa Rise, Luisa Rise and a reliever that

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 3>throws one hundred miles an hour in Caleb Killian. Arise

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>and Killian go from San Francisco to Philadelphia for Ramone.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 3>Marquez and Marty gare two right handed pitching relievers. Arm

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.600
<v Speaker 3>you think Marquez is really good, and I want to

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 3>tee you up for that in a moment here. But

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 3>Arise creates this puzzle, like this jigsaw puzzle that has

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>been sorted out reportedly. I think it was toddz Aleki

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>that reported this. Bryce Harper brought his outfield glove on

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.439
<v Speaker 3>the last road trip. Harper's going to be pivoting back

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 3>to right field or left field. Harper's going to be

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 3>playing the corner outfield. Bryceon Stott is going to make

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>the pivot from second base to third base and Alec

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Baum is going to go corner to corner. He was

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 3>the third baseman. Bom is now going to play first

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 3>base for the Philadelphia Philly So again it's going to

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 3>be Bom at first, Arise at second, Trey Turner remains

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 3>at short stot at third, and Bryce Harper goes to

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 3>the corner outfield. Before we get into the Arise fit

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 3>in Philly, which I feel like is a slam dunk. Personally,

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 3>arm who is Ramone Marquez.

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.240
<v Speaker 2>This has been one of the breakout pitching prospects in baseball.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Here, and I honestly think they had to tack on

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Killian just to be able to get Marquez back in

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 1>this deal, because Killian's a sneaky get in this.

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>In this like, he's not insignificant given that you know

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 2>he's pitched at.

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Leverage for the Giants and you've got five years of

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 1>control with that, I really think they had to attack

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>him on. They probably didn't want to move him to

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 1>be able to get a pitcher like Marquez. Marquez's fastballs

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>ticked up one point five miles per hour this year,

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 1>so he's now sitting in the mid nineties. That's always

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>huge for a guy that has an elite change up,

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>so now you have that velocity separation. Marquez's changed up,

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like a freaking screwball out of that release point

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's like fourteen to fifteen miles per hour of

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>separation there and it just falls off the table. Punts

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>are heading below one hundred against Marquez's change up this season,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and with the uptick in velocity, it's also made his

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of cutterish slider sharper and more effective as well.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>So you have the better fastball, you have the elite

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>change up, you have that cutter ofsh slider as well,

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and a good field to pitch. Going into this like

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.760
<v Speaker 1>month or going into July, we wrote up the Giant System,

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>crazy fun bats, high upside guys that you say, Wow,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 1>the system's really improved, especially if these guys can figure

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it out, you know, at the lower levels.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 2>But they need more pitching, especially upper level right handed pitching.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 1>They go out and get Jackson four in the draft,

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 1>they get two other high upside arms with their second

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and third picks, and then now they add in Marquez here.

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the most rapidly like rising and

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 1>strong systems. Now, all of a sudden, in Baseball. I

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 1>know it's been a horrible loss season for Giants fans

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and for the Giants, but at the very least this

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>system was already had as much momentum as any You

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.719
<v Speaker 1>add some of these guys to the fold two, this

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>is a really balanced, now and exciting system.

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Peter, what do you think about Dave Dombrowski trading a

0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 3>breakout pitching prospect to go and get a rental a

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.359
<v Speaker 3>Rise who changes the fabric of this lineup drastically.

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:48.919
<v Speaker 4>Well, that's why Arm is so great, because I didn't

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 4>know much about this pitching prospect. And then I'm watching

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 4>those highlights that podcast Pe put up there, and I'm like,

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 4>that is a nightmare for hitters. You see that tunnel Arm,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Like it's from the same exact Arm, and he's got

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 4>the slider, and he's got the changeup and he's got

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 4>the fastball, and it just feels like, at least again

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 4>just from watching that video, the guys aren't ready for it.

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 4>So for the Phillies or excuse me, the Giants, to

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.439
<v Speaker 4>get a piece who looks as good as he just did,

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm impressed. But on the Phillies side, on the major

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 4>league side, the Phillies desperately needed a bat. It's kind

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 4>of that same conversation that we had with the Yankees

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 4>and Luis Garcia, where you thought, wait, where's he gonna play?

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 4>You figure it out, because at the end of the day,

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 4>the Philadelphia Phillies ranked twenty ninth and on base percentage

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 4>this season twenty ninth Luisa Riaz three sixty OBP right

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 4>batting average, they ranked twenty third. Luisa Riaz, he's hitting

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 4>three twenty three thirty. So it's a bat that can

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 4>set the table at the top for guys like Bryce

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 4>Harper and Kyle Schwarber because Trey Turner ain't cutting it

0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 4>at the top of the lineup right, But maybe you

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 4>move Turner back in the lineup a little bit. I

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 4>don't know exactly what they are going to do, but

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.399
<v Speaker 4>Luisa rise just simply looking at the bat is a

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 4>perfect fit inside the Phillies lineup. Now, defensively, that's where

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure I even put out you know on

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 4>Twitter that I wouldn't be shocked. I don't think this

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.359
<v Speaker 4>is going to happen, but I think it would be

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 4>at least interesting to try if you actually put Trey

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.320
<v Speaker 4>Turner out there in center field, and you move Bryson

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Stott over to shortstop. Stott is I think would be

0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 4>a much better defensive shortstop than Trey Turner has been

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 4>this season with negative fourteen defensive run saved and negative

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 4>eight outs above average. If Turner can't field a position,

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 4>put him out there in center. But I'm texting arm

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 4>about that and You're like, and he's like, so we're

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 4>going to give Trey Turner a crash course on centerfield

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 4>in August. And I'm like, well, yeah, that's probably not

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 4>a good idea. But then I would argue, is it

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.040
<v Speaker 4>a good idea to keep rolling him out there at shortstop?

0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 4>So regardless, the Phillies are going to figure out defensive

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 4>positioning and even our friend the Warmongerer, who does great

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 4>work on X make sure that you follow him really

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.439
<v Speaker 4>in depth on the defensive side.

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And oh, he's amazing. He's amazing. He has answered so

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>many questions for me. I've had players ask me questions

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:10.320
<v Speaker 1>about defensive metrics.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I go straight to him and relay

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the message back and.

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.279
<v Speaker 1>He agreed with me. So that was like, wait, I

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 1>did I saw that? And I was like, I gotta

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>walk it back a little bit.

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 4>But but but it's it's it is jarring because you're

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.040
<v Speaker 4>telling a short stuff to just go learn center field.

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Who's already struggling to figure out how to get it

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>going at the plate.

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, oh, try to figure it out in

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 2>center too.

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 4>But he's not a rookie though he's tree freaking turner.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Couldn't you figure it out? But regardless, you're adding Luisa

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 4>rise to bat. That is the most that's the most important.

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 4>The Phillies, they'll figure out defensive positioning. That's the least

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 4>of our worries. We got to hit.

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 2>This lineup.

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And does that oh.

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>My gosh, the fact that you can just instead of

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the big boppers at the top, that you have just

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 1>another quality at bat to just add there, and and

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the opportunities and the way that he could potentially set

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the table you mentioned obp but for him setting the

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>table like you can provide protection in front of some

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.879
<v Speaker 1>of these power guys too, And I think that's gonna

0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>be a big part of it as well. So I'm

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>really interested to see how they set up the lineup

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>after that. But it affords a lot of opportunity there

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>for Mattingly and for the Phillies, and I think he's

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>going to be a great spark.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 3>You know. I think, like in terms of a new

0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 3>school thought, that a Rise doesn't need to hit leadoff here,

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Like a Rise was obviously in the top two of

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 3>the Giant lineup pretty much every single game this year.

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 3>But I'm thinking, if you have Luisa Rise hitting fifth

0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 3>in this lineup, that does so much. Because there are

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 3>some decent obp guys at the top, it's been the

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 3>bottom half of the Philly lineup that has tanked their

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 3>numbers to the point where they're twenty ninth in baseball

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 3>and on base Like they were running out a thirty

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 3>four year old, thirty five year old JT Realmuto, who

0:40:45.520 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 3>is a shell of what JT was a couple of

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 3>years ago.

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:49.839
<v Speaker 4>They're still going to run him out there though.

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, they're still running him out there, but for

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.919
<v Speaker 3>two more years after this one. Yeah, when JT was hurt,

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you were looking at Rafael Marshawn, who I

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 3>think so I think his ops started with a two,

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 3>if I'm not mistaken, and then Garrett Stubbs as well,

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>so like it was a bad situation. And then Crawford

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 3>has not been that good in center field, at least

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 3>from an offensive production standpoint, and they've had other guys

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 3>that have been very underwhelming, like boem Is ticked up

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 3>over the last month and a half two months. Oh man,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>how about this from Derek Gold. I believe this Saint

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Louis post dispatch. Ali Marmould just walked out to bring

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 3>back Lars Newtbar from batting practice and he's getting hugs

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.279
<v Speaker 3>from coach John Jay and others. So Lars Newbar is

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 3>going to be on the move. We will find out

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 3>very shortly. Yeah, man, I think this Philly lineup construction

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 3>could be very interesting, and I think having a rise

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 3>in a place to drive in runs could also be

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 3>a fascinating wrinkle to this. Before we move on to

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 3>the next trade, I also want a golf clatt Brice Harper,

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 3>because Harper now on several different occasions, has actively made

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 3>a pivot to better the Philadelphia Phillies. He went from

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 3>the corner outfield to first base to help them win

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 3>and to give them more flexibility when his arm is

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 3>not one hundred percent. And now he's saying, you know what,

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 3>we get a shot to get a rise and retool

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 3>our infield shit. Let me grab the outfield glove and

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 3>let me push back into the corner outfield spot. I

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 3>think he's very, very selfless when it comes to things

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 3>like that, one hundred percent.

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>But to that point, I'm really interested to see what

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>he looks like defensively. What is the first time in

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the outfields in twenty twenty two, didn't even play a

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>ton of outfield even in twenty twenty two. That's going

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to be a big I think wrinkling this whole thing

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>too in terms of how much better or worse the

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>defense will be with this shuffle is how ultimately he

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>looks in the outfield.

0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 2>But I think we might have just got our braves

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 2>move real quick.

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 4>Do we bring him back to the Juco days, put

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 4>him behind the dish.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Also the edge, and then on the hill pumping ninety six?

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh that'd be sick. Bryce Harper wouldn't even know how

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 4>to squat anymore. But he's still got that arm. All

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying is, you know, think creatively. That's what I'm

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 4>trying to do.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Putting trades over in center field Peyton. If we have

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 3>a visual for Lars newt Bar, we can run that.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 3>If not, we can move on to the next deal.

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.400
<v Speaker 3>Let me know. No, he's saying, I have no idea.

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I think Arm, Could you have gotten duped by the

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 3>comments or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they get duped for what?

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's pivot to the next trade that we

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>got to talk about here that went down a couple

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.839
<v Speaker 3>of hours ago. Staying in the National leagueese, but kind

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 3>of going the other way. Liam Hicks is traded from

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 3>the Miami Marlins to the Tampa Bay Rays. Liam Hicks

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 3>who's played a lot of first base in DHS of late,

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 3>but still catching once or twice a week. Braden Taylor,

0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 3>former first round pick, along with a couple other guys,

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 3>go back to the Miami Marlins, Jacob Kissing, a right

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 3>handed pitcher, and then Adrian Santana who has had some

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>prospect pedigree as an infielder as well. Arm lighton three

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 3>prospects in return for a Rule five pick last year

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 3>will be a breakout mat this year in Liam Hicks.

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>What was your take on the return?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, first, just heck of a process there by

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the Marlins and Bendix to turn a Rule five pick

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 1>into you know what He's given them value wise over

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the last year and a half and then also the return,

0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>but you no, I did think that Liam Hicks was.

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Worth a little bit more than this return.

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I know some out there really like it, especially if

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you really like defense. This is a very We've seen

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>it with Bendix.

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.320
<v Speaker 2>These are like model players.

0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:20.439
<v Speaker 1>And by that I mean defense, some contact skills and

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, some speed as the carrying tools, but there

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>might be some other flaws in the game, and when

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you watch them, you're not totally sure if that's going

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>to completely translate. Britain Taylor is getting his third taste

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of double A. He's breaking out this year in a

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of ways and having a great year, but still

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.359
<v Speaker 1>struggling against spin. The evs are a little bit lighter

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>than the power numbers would suggest, so that is a

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a concern with me.

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Santana is just a classic, you know fit for the Marlins.

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Who loves Starling Cobba. They get a guy that I

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 1>think is very similarly coded. Great back to ball switch hitter,

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>can run South Florida kid I think will stick it short,

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but I think he has a max air exit velocity

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of one hundred and three miles per hour this year,

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:59.040
<v Speaker 1>so that's going to need to improve a little bit.

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>That's that's you know twenty great Bob. And then uh,

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the third piece is.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the most interesting.

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Where you're getting a right hander that oh with the

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>t vax and it wou'd be a fun one. You're

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 1>getting a right hander that has broken out this year,

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>throws a splitter and a change up and has a

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty good.

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Feel to spind it.

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the arm that they end up getting might

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>be the most interesting in terms of what it may

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 1>look like at the upper levels.

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.560
<v Speaker 2>But let's go. I'm very happy about this movie.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 4>This is the tough part about this stream is like

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 4>I want to hear raa but that I get the

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 4>alert that Lars new Bars go to Arizona. That I'm

0:45:31.600 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 4>just like looking at him looking out at my phone

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 4>and there's just so much happening, and this is why

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 4>it's so much fun. But it's hard to get all

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 4>of the thoughts correctly in in a in a good

0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 4>you know, segmented way. But we're trying our best here.

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Put put a pin in the newt Bar to Arizona

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 3>thing real real quick, because I do want to tell us, actually, no,

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 3>we got it. Peyton, Good for you man, that's a

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 3>lightning quick turnaround. Per Hoor Hat Castile, Yeah, per horor

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Hate Castell and Alvin Gonzalez. The Diamondbacks are requiring Lars

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Newt Bar from the Saint Louis Cars. Newt Bar is

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 3>a really interesting fit. And Mike Hasen two months ago

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 3>told everybody that he not the team. He wanted a

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:13.320
<v Speaker 3>lefty hitting corner outfielder or first baseman. And Mike Hasen

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 3>gets his lefty hitting corner outfielder and Lars Newtbar our

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 3>knee jerk reaction. I know you have been following the

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Diamondbacks and their need for maybe offensive help pretty closely.

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 3>They've had a very quiet deadline day.

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I was getting a little worried that

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 1>something may not line up for them, being that this

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>is a.

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.399
<v Speaker 2>Team that I've been pumped about this year.

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I think Peter has put me on the spot a

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>couple of times throughout the year and checked in. There's

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 1>been spots around like, yeah, this is still a playoff team,

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and then there's been.

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Other spots that I'm like, ah, it's getting harder to believe.

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And then they've been really really good of late six

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>games over five hundred, like they needed to add to

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this team, even with the flaws.

0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 2>You got to add to a team like that.

0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:55.279
<v Speaker 1>But their system isn't great and you don't want to

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:56.839
<v Speaker 1>trade from the couple guys you have at the top.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 2>How do you pull this off?

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>They're able to do it here, and again, not a

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 1>ton of ton of bats to be able to go get.

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I think this is a good fit for them and

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>comes with a little bit of control as well. I'm

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>interested to see how the profile plays out there. A

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 1>guy that's always had good underlying data, We've always been

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.240
<v Speaker 1>waiting for it to fully fully come to fruition.

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>But Arizona's a good place to maybe help that happen.

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.080
<v Speaker 1>They need they needed a left handed bat as bad

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>as anybody. Right you look at their left e bats,

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it's Corbyn, Carrol, it's the switch hitters in Perdomo and Marte.

0:47:25.800 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Marte is better from the right side, and then it's

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>Kepler and that's about it. So to be able to

0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 1>plug in, you know, a proven, establish consistent left handed

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.879
<v Speaker 1>bat here in the outfield, I think really really helps

0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>this Dbacks line up.

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I love it. Peter anything on newt Bar going to

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 3>Arizona or should we push onto the Chicago cups I.

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 4>Think are mostly covered it. You know, when we're looking

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 4>for a left handed power bat, we're looking for a

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 4>right handed contact bat. They needed a bat like period.

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Right This is a team that ranks twenty second in ops.

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 4>You look at Homer's, you look at Steels, you look

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 4>at me. Across the board, they're either average or below

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:05.719
<v Speaker 4>average at so and Lars Newbar has been a really

0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:07.959
<v Speaker 4>solid bat. The problem is he just hasn't been able

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 4>to really stay healthy. But he's healthy now and that's

0:48:10.239 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 4>what the Diamondbacks are acquiring. So again, any bats are

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:15.600
<v Speaker 4>good bats for Arizona.

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.919
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we will push to a Cub conversation right now,

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>because the Cubs have been very active in terms of

0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 3>addressing pitching and it's been an impressive deadline from Jed

0:48:26.480 --> 0:48:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Hoyer and Carter Hawkins. Here we'll start with the deal

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 3>that you guys didn't get to last night because it

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 3>came in late. Kevin Gosman made the move from Toronto

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 3>to Chicago for Brett Bateman and outfielder and Tie South.

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 3>The scene, an infield prospect who is the older brother

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.400
<v Speaker 3>of Tate South. The scene of the Atlanta Braves a

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 3>breakout that arm hit on on the call up late

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 3>last week. But Kevin Gosman is a frontline arm that

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 3>has bonafied playoff performances under his belt. Gosman is such

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 3>a great get for the Cubs. I was fired up

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 3>for Shak when I saw this trade come through, because

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:06.360
<v Speaker 3>they needed someone like this. There's a lot of unknown Frankly,

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of nothing in that Cub rotation right

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.880
<v Speaker 3>now because of the way injuries have just decimated it

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.880
<v Speaker 3>over the course of this season. But they needed someone

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 3>experienced and seasoned and veteran, and someone that it was

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like not hard to pry away from a team,

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 3>but would make it emotional to pry that guy away

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.359
<v Speaker 3>from that team. And I know Blue Jays fans are

0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 3>really upset that Gosman had to go. It was the

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 3>best course of action, obviously, because Gosman is in a

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 3>walk year here. But Kevin Gosman with the Cubs screams

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 3>to me, match made in heaven. Peter, how do you

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 3>see the Gosman fit in Chicago?

0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.280
<v Speaker 4>Couldn't agree with you more. I feel like this Cubs

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 4>rotation is an anxiety riddled rotation and Gosman slows the

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:53.000
<v Speaker 4>heartbeat right. He comes in. He's a professional. He's been there,

0:49:53.120 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 4>done that, you know.

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:55.359
<v Speaker 3>I like showed up.

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.160
<v Speaker 4>I like Matthew Boyd. I like a couple of their arms.

0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:02.320
<v Speaker 4>But this is a bit there, done that type of picture.

0:50:02.680 --> 0:50:05.240
<v Speaker 4>And you also feel like Gosman, while he's not having

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 4>the best year, we haven't seen a stark drop off

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 4>and stuff or anything. This is still Kevin Gosman. And

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:14.439
<v Speaker 4>I've said this about Kevin Gosman before, and I'll say

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 4>it probably for the rest of the season and for

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 4>the rest of his career. Gosman is at his best

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 4>when he's pinpoint with the fastball and the splitter, because

0:50:22.560 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 4>you could just never guess right. And I've seen him

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 4>dice through elite lineups when he's got it. When he doesn't,

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:31.680
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't look all that great, and more often than

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 4>not he hasn't had it. But when that focus locks

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 4>in during the playoffs for the Cubs, I wouldn't be

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 4>surprised if he's the best pitcher in this rotation come

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 4>October and it didn't cost them all that much, right arm.

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, A couple of really glove first bat to ball

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:50.319
<v Speaker 1>guys also kind of the model fit.

0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:52.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think higher four pieces.

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>But if you're the Cubs, I don't think you're losing

0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:56.799
<v Speaker 1>sleep over that, especially with some of the top end

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>position player of prospects that you got it that you

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.080
<v Speaker 1>also use to make other additions here.

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the ceiling aspect when he's locked in, I agree, Pete,

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and then just just a guy that has been there,

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is absolutely huge.

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I also wanted to tie a bow because we.

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Had something to come in on the Liam Hicks Ray's

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 1>side of the deal before we had the excitement.

0:51:17.120 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I love the fit for a couple of different reasons.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.360
<v Speaker 1>But the Rays have always kind of punted the catching

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>position right, and we've talked about that. But Nick Fart

0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:26.480
<v Speaker 1>says that a really nice series is a good defender,

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but that's a guy that you kind of like more

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:30.240
<v Speaker 1>in a part time role behind the dish. So Hicks

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is able to give you, you know, an upgrade there.

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>But the Rays are the only team in Major League

0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Baseball with a contact rate above above eighty percent. You

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:41.240
<v Speaker 1>add now Liam Hicks there, who's fourth in the league

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>in contact rate at ninety percent, and so you're already

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>taking the number one strength they have and making it

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>even stronger, they have the lowest strikeout rate in the

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.840
<v Speaker 1>league at nineteen point two percent, and you add a

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.080
<v Speaker 1>guy with a strikeout rate of nine and a half percent.

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>So the Rays, already being the best bat to ball

0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:59.760
<v Speaker 1>team are even more bat to BALI and you still

0:51:59.800 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>have guys that can hit the ball hard, right and

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:06.799
<v Speaker 1>camin arow and and Ronda and of course Das Yeah.

0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Podcast P dropped this nugget on the Hicks video breakdown.

0:52:11.400 --> 0:52:14.919
<v Speaker 3>Liam Hicks swung and missed twelve pitches inside the strike

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 3>zone for the Marlins this year. He hit fourteen home runs,

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.480
<v Speaker 3>so he had fewer swings and misses on pitches in

0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 3>the zone than he did home runs hit this season.

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:28.800
<v Speaker 4>That that's that blows my mind. What do say it again?

0:52:29.320 --> 0:52:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Twelve in zone wis fourteen home runs? Like you already

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 4>said it once, but I don't even think you put

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:36.799
<v Speaker 4>it in enough perspective. You got to say it again.

0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Liam Hicks swung and missed within the strike zone twelve

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.799
<v Speaker 3>times as a Marlin this year. He hit fourteen home

0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 3>runs as a Marlin this year, Liam Hicks, I will

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 3>tell you I will personally miss Liam Hicks. The guy

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 3>like Hicks is a really good dude. Excited to see

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 3>him thrive in Tampa, but of course excited about the

0:52:57.760 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 3>prospect return coming back to Miami. I do want to

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:04.080
<v Speaker 3>keep on going with the Cubs here because Gosman wasn't

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:07.360
<v Speaker 3>the only move. There were two other moves here for pitching,

0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.279
<v Speaker 3>and I want to kind of sandwich the Garrett one

0:53:10.719 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 3>with Gosman on the front end and Holmes on the

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.799
<v Speaker 3>back end, because Braxton Garrett makes the move from the

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Marlins to the Cubs, and the return was Jonathan Long,

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 3>a first baseman that has seemingly been blocked for a

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 3>little bit. Jonathan Long and right hander Ja s Beck,

0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 3>they go back in return. Garrett's an interesting gamble because

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 3>this is a command guy that is working his way

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:35.800
<v Speaker 3>back from Tommy John surgery, but he has been carving

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:38.600
<v Speaker 3>through triple A arm Layton, You've watched a lot of

0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Braxton Garrett, and I know you've seen a decent bit

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 3>of him this year as well. What do you make

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.920
<v Speaker 3>of Garrett and where he's at off of major elbow surgery.

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I think you saw the Classics shake

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the rust off off of TJ. And when you're a

0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>pitch ability guy that really needs to execute. I think

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.640
<v Speaker 1>coming back off of TJ can be even tougher, and

0:53:57.680 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the Marlins kind of knew that and that's

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>why they were, you know, him to take his time

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>in Triple A. But I think you saw in Triple

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>A he really did settle in and and have some

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:09.120
<v Speaker 1>positive stretches, but then you saw some blips where.

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.800
<v Speaker 2>The command wasn't there. I think it's a perfect swap.

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Cubs have a ton of bats at the upper miners,

0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 1>forty man guys potentially as well. Marlin's get a right

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>handed bat that can help him on the big league level.

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>But the Cubs get some solid pitching depth, and the

0:54:21.520 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>guy with control that at worse is going to be

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a solid ending Zeter for you.

0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:28.040
<v Speaker 3>I think, Wow, a couple things just came through from

0:54:28.120 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Passing of ESPN. The Cleveland Guardians are acquiring Nathaniel

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Lowe in a trade with the Cincinnati Reds. That's a

0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 3>really interesting fit, and they get an upgrade at first base.

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.800
<v Speaker 3>DH seemingly Reee Hoskins. It's just not cutting it anymore,

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 3>so low effectively replaces Hoskins in that lineup. The other

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 3>one that just came through the Marlins according to pass

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:50.720
<v Speaker 3>and acquiring Victor Vodnik from the Rockies for Connor Norby

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 3>and right handed really or right handed prospect Aiden may

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 3>So Norby and may go from the Marlins to the

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Rockies in exchange for Victor Vodnik, who has had an underwoman.

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 3>You're eerra wise, but the stuff is incredibly loud, so

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 3>pretty cool, and podcast P unbelievable turnaround time on those

0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 3>because those just came through forty five seconds ago. This

0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 3>guy's a freaking machine. I know he probably doesn't have

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:17.399
<v Speaker 3>time to pop in and make this a four man

0:55:17.400 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 3>thing right now, but if you do, can we give

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 3>you a round of applause to your face.

0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 4>No, he's not gone anywhere, you know when uh, you

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 4>know in the social network where they got Mark Uh.

0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:29.839
<v Speaker 2>He's plugging his mic and he's getting ready to go.

0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 4>Where you got Mark Zuckerberg like in the corner is like,

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 4>oh no, he's plugged in. He's plugged in right now, Like,

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 4>don't bother him. That's what podcast P is right now.

0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, so podcast p's working on that at the moment.

0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 3>The last cubs one that we want to talk about here. Actually, no,

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.439
<v Speaker 3>Peyton's popping in right now, so let's give him again

0:55:47.560 --> 0:55:50.080
<v Speaker 3>a round of applause to his face and then he'll

0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:54.240
<v Speaker 3>keep on cooking here. So Peyton, good job, dude.

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 5>I'll accept the glades.

0:55:56.080 --> 0:55:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Dude, is is this the most over stimulated you've been

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.360
<v Speaker 3>in like the last forty eight hours?

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 6>I'd say the draft stream this year it's a camera

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 6>kept cutting out. But yeah, I was cortisoled that time

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:12.839
<v Speaker 6>that day, but this one, you know, I'm more having

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 6>fun this time.

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:14.560
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 3>It is fun and it is like a whip around

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 3>in every single sense of the word here, all right,

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 3>So we just had those two come in. I do

0:56:24.040 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 3>want to circle back again to the Cubs because we

0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:29.400
<v Speaker 3>hit on Kevin Gosman, we hit on Braxton Garrett, and

0:56:29.440 --> 0:56:31.520
<v Speaker 3>now I want to hit on two guys coming over

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 3>the market for right handed bats was it seemed like

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 3>buyers were clamoring for them, and the Cubs get a

0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:39.200
<v Speaker 3>good one, and they also get a good starter who's

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:41.840
<v Speaker 3>working his way back on a rehab assignment. Clay Holmes

0:56:41.840 --> 0:56:45.839
<v Speaker 3>started for Hia Brooklyn on rehab, working his way back

0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 3>from that leg fracture. So Holmes he started on Sunday,

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.760
<v Speaker 3>he gets traded from the Mets to the Chicago Cubs

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 3>along with Tyrone Taylor. It's a two big leaguer for

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.720
<v Speaker 3>one prospect deal. Holmes and Tyrone Taylor from the Mets

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 3>to the Cubs for an infield prospect Jefferson Rojas, who

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 3>arm you were very very high on, then you were

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 3>high on, and then you were like very high on,

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 3>and now are you back to high on?

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's a very accurate to fiction.

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>He's been a difficult player to assess in the regard

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of like how much I like him, But I've always

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>liked him, and I still think he's a really good player.

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 2>The question has been defensively.

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>I think in the early going I said, okay, he's

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:26.680
<v Speaker 1>always been the youngest player or one of the youngest players,

0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that he'd stop. Rojas like, uh, maybe the glove will

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>come along. I think now you look at it and

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he's more likely a second or third basement But the

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.840
<v Speaker 1>bat is freaking awesome, So to get him, I think

0:57:35.880 --> 0:57:39.200
<v Speaker 1>again another instance where the Mets had the package two players,

0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>but Rojas is probably the best player that they got

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:43.479
<v Speaker 1>at this deadline. Unless I'm forgetting somebody off the top

0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.680
<v Speaker 1>borderline top one hundred prospects, good blend of hit and power,

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.080
<v Speaker 1>can run a little bit, and I think Rojas is

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.959
<v Speaker 1>going to be, you know, an above average infield bat

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 1>for you, I think second base. But the fact that

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>they can be versat will move over to third. Thought

0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that was a good get for the match, which I

0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't love their returns. I thought that was one of

0:57:59.400 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>their better returns. But to get two pieces on the

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 1>big league side, you know, for for the Cubs, like

0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately that that made it worth it.

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.240
<v Speaker 3>Hard to fathom. We just talked through the deadline, so

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 3>you've got the deadline concluding a minute ago. A couple

0:58:14.520 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 3>more are coming in here, and the Pirates are stocking up.

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Kirby Yates goes from the Angels to the Pirates. The

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:24.240
<v Speaker 3>other one just reported was Lake Baker goes from the

0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Marlins to the Pirates. So the Pirates they add Camilo Dovall,

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Luke Weaver, Kirby Yates, and they add Lake Baker.

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 4>Here.

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Another one coming in at the last moment is Preller

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:39.200
<v Speaker 3>finally gets active. The Padres going to acquire Casey Mize

0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.720
<v Speaker 3>from the Detroit Tigers. So Ma is one of the

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 3>top rental arms that was left maz goes from the

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Tigers to the San Diego Padres. But again, the Pirates

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.520
<v Speaker 3>are bulking up on their relief arms.

0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Here.

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 3>You've got Luke Weaver, You've got Camillo Dovall, You've got

0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 3>Lake Baker, and you've got Kirby Yates. Here. The Pirates

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 3>had one glaring deficiency, folks, they could not get outs

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 3>after the sixth inning, and now it seems like they're

0:59:04.560 --> 0:59:07.960
<v Speaker 3>built to get outs after the sixth inning. Absolutely fascinating

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:13.360
<v Speaker 3>what Cherrington did. And Charrington, those are four solid relievers, Peter,

0:59:13.480 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 3>I know you probably despise Doval for what he did

0:59:17.200 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 3>over the last calendar year with the New York Yankees.

0:59:20.040 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of talent in there, and you add

0:59:22.440 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 3>those four guys to Gregor Risoto and to other guys

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.520
<v Speaker 3>that throw hard in that Pirate bullpen, all of a sudden,

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:29.720
<v Speaker 3>they're looking a heck of a lot better.

0:59:30.600 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just on the deval side. Like we talked about

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 4>it yesterday, I think it was arm and eye and

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 4>it was kind of like I was surprised that the

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.959
<v Speaker 4>Yankees got warm bodies for Camelo Dovall. But I also

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 4>said at the same time, sometimes guys just don't work

0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:47.800
<v Speaker 4>in New York. Still clearly talented. Now it doesn't help

0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:50.360
<v Speaker 4>that in his first appearance for the Pittsburgh Pirates to

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.280
<v Speaker 4>give up a home run, but that you know, it's

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 4>just happenstance, Like, I still think he has talent. He

0:59:56.280 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 4>still throws gas, he still keeps the ball on the ground,

0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 4>and he does not do a good job of holding runners.

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<v Speaker 4>So Nie Rodriguez back there, you're going to have your

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 4>work cut out for you. But at the same time,

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:11.840
<v Speaker 4>they didn't only get Camillo Daval, right, I think you

1:00:11.880 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 4>could make an argument that Camillo daval is the worst

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 4>reliever that they got. They got arguably the best reliever

1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 4>traded at this deadline in Luke Weaver. That is a

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.840
<v Speaker 4>big get for the Pirates in GM Ben Charrington. And

1:00:22.880 --> 1:00:24.840
<v Speaker 4>then you can continue to go down the line like

1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:27.240
<v Speaker 4>Lake Baker. You guys would know more about him than

1:00:27.240 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 4>I do. But from what I've watched, he looks like

1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:31.760
<v Speaker 4>a pretty good reliever. Like he's not bad, he's not great,

1:00:31.800 --> 1:00:34.360
<v Speaker 4>but he's a nice fill in for this Pirate's bullpen

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:37.560
<v Speaker 4>that just needs guys who can throw. And then Kirbyates

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:42.000
<v Speaker 4>has closing experience, and it hasn't been an entirely healthy season,

1:00:42.280 --> 1:00:44.640
<v Speaker 4>but when Kirbyates has been on the mound, he's been

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:47.560
<v Speaker 4>really solid as well. All the Pirates are doing here

1:00:47.840 --> 1:00:50.880
<v Speaker 4>is just raising the floor. And it's sometimes easy for

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:54.240
<v Speaker 4>a GM to address needs when they're so apparent, and

1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:58.000
<v Speaker 4>the Pirates clearly needed to address the bullpen. So what

1:00:58.040 --> 1:01:01.280
<v Speaker 4>does Ben Charrington do? Not one, not two, not three,

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 4>not four? Actually yes, four four relievers. It feels like

1:01:05.120 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 4>the Lebron James press conference with the heat where he

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:10.600
<v Speaker 4>goes not one two. But they got a bunch of relievers,

1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:12.760
<v Speaker 4>and good for them. I'm rooting for them, and I

1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:14.000
<v Speaker 4>think these are four good guts.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think arm.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that's the best way for them

1:01:18.920 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 1>to do it. I don't even think one big relief

1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:22.920
<v Speaker 1>farm was gonna fix it for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Might as well volume shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like about Bakers like he's really versatile and

1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a guy that can go multi inning for you.

1:01:30.040 --> 1:01:31.880
<v Speaker 1>He's been able to throw a little bit at leverage.

1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I think several of these guys can kind of be

1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:35.360
<v Speaker 1>in different roles and you can ride the hot hand

1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:37.680
<v Speaker 1>for who you trust to close games. Out, which is

1:01:37.680 --> 1:01:39.440
<v Speaker 1>probably always gonna be the best way for the pirates.

1:01:39.480 --> 1:01:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So I love that they had an obvious issue and

1:01:41.920 --> 1:01:45.000
<v Speaker 1>they addressed it with volume. And I can guarantee that

1:01:45.000 --> 1:01:46.800
<v Speaker 1>their bullpen's going to be better than it was before.

1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And that's all you can really ask.

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<v Speaker 3>For, no doubt about that. We can go a whole

1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:54.400
<v Speaker 3>bunch of different ways here because the trade deadline again,

1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:59.360
<v Speaker 3>it officially concluded at six o'clock Eastern time at six

1:01:59.440 --> 1:02:01.840
<v Speaker 3>oh five right now, but we still have things that

1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:06.280
<v Speaker 3>are being reported at the very very at this very moment, Peter,

1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:07.200
<v Speaker 3>hand up what you got.

1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:09.600
<v Speaker 4>I just really want to talk about the Casey Mice

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:11.600
<v Speaker 4>deal that just came through, because we just we have

1:02:11.640 --> 1:02:14.480
<v Speaker 4>a return. Yet we just got the return. Tigers get

1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Cash Mayfield and Jackson Wolf. And I know Cash Mayfield

1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:20.680
<v Speaker 4>is a big time prospect and at the end of

1:02:20.720 --> 1:02:23.720
<v Speaker 4>the day, Casey Mice is a rental. So I wanted

1:02:23.720 --> 1:02:25.720
<v Speaker 4>to throw it over to you or ar them to

1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:28.760
<v Speaker 4>kind of break down that return because it feels steep

1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.080
<v Speaker 4>to me. But at the same time, Casey mis has

1:02:31.080 --> 1:02:33.960
<v Speaker 4>been a freaking dog this year, so I understand it

1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:37.960
<v Speaker 4>from that sense. But and they also got gauge workmen

1:02:37.960 --> 1:02:40.800
<v Speaker 4>in the deal too, so it wasn't solely Casey Mice,

1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:45.200
<v Speaker 4>but for the Tigers to get a prospect of cash

1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:47.840
<v Speaker 4>Mayfield's pedigree, I feel like that's really solid, is it not?

1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not bad at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this was one of those where you aren't

1:02:51.200 --> 1:02:53.640
<v Speaker 1>going to have the volume maybe to match with like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of second tier type of prospects. You had

1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:59.120
<v Speaker 1>to give up, you know, really one higher tier prospect.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Mayfield a guy that you look at

1:03:02.120 --> 1:03:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the ceiling. I know he's the first round you know,

1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:06.400
<v Speaker 1>had agree with him, but and he's six four to

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:08.480
<v Speaker 1>two hundred, you'd expect a little bit more in there,

1:03:08.520 --> 1:03:10.280
<v Speaker 1>but he dealt with a little bit of a shoulder

1:03:10.320 --> 1:03:13.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff last year. The vos back up a tad more,

1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.440
<v Speaker 1>but he's still just averaging about ninety two. There's deception

1:03:16.520 --> 1:03:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in there, and he can he can extend decently well.

1:03:18.720 --> 1:03:21.320
<v Speaker 1>So I think he's able to outperform what you would

1:03:21.360 --> 1:03:24.200
<v Speaker 1>maybe see on the surface with Mayfield in terms of

1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the velocity. It's a it's a good change up and

1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what stands out for me as well. It's a

1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:30.960
<v Speaker 1>low release fastball, kind of carries a bit, but it's

1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.360
<v Speaker 1>still most likely at back end of the rotation outlook,

1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I think in that regard, Padre is knowing

1:03:36.000 --> 1:03:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that they're not giving up a super super high ceiling,

1:03:38.360 --> 1:03:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and Miz helps them a ton. Obviously this year it

1:03:41.120 --> 1:03:44.760
<v Speaker 1>could be their best pitcher now very well, like if

1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:46.560
<v Speaker 1>he's hot, could be the guy that you trust as

1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:49.200
<v Speaker 1>much as anybody in that rotation. I think it's worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this is one of those where it's

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<v Speaker 2>It is probably the best individual player they could have got.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they could have got more value with two other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but you add in a left handed pitcher here, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a high probability, back end of the road guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the Padres it's it's still worth it though,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to add mys and really go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>know if you have Foster Griffin and that return ready,

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<v Speaker 3>because I find that one fascinating. But we are going

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<v Speaker 3>to go right to the Taylor Ward deal because Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>they started to get a little involved here. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>late rumblings that Randy a Rose Arena could be open

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<v Speaker 3>for business in terms of being acquired, but they hold

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<v Speaker 3>onto Randy a Rose Arena. By reporting, it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>Kirby and Hancock stay put. And they also add a

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<v Speaker 3>righty bat, Taylor Ward, who's top five in Major League

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<v Speaker 3>Baseball and on base percentage. They get Taylor Ward from

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<v Speaker 3>Baltimore for three prospects. They are three right handed pitching prospects,

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Hoppy, Harrison Criyling, and brock More. Hoppy is probably

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest name of these three, are them? What say you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say so, just because he's like close

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<v Speaker 2>to big league. I mean, he's big league.

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<v Speaker 1>Rady has some experience, could jump in the bullpen if

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<v Speaker 1>you could approve the command a little bit. But the

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<v Speaker 1>walk rate's been a bit higher with cry Ling, Like

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff is good, but this is a twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>year old at you know, low A. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>lighter return than I thought it would be, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that it's a rental bath, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of people are probably just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit worried that how Taylor Ward's has been more passive

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<v Speaker 1>than anything and not slugging, but also just stuffy guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are older I mean brock More as well, like

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<v Speaker 1>super high strikeout rate this year between high A and

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<v Speaker 1>double A, but has also battled some walk issues and

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we've seen with the Mariners is.

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<v Speaker 1>They draft these kind of like like senior signs or

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<v Speaker 1>grad students in the seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth round, don't

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<v Speaker 1>give them huge bonuses and they end up just developing

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<v Speaker 1>into decent pieces. So good on the on the Mariners

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to like kind of maximize these guys

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<v Speaker 1>and turn it into a solid bat to help them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think each of them have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>develop in a decent bullpen pieces. But I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a light get honestly over for Taylor Ward.

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<v Speaker 3>Ward had so much.

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<v Speaker 4>To this offense Peter a Ton And it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>the same conversation that we've had with a few teams

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<v Speaker 4>where just bring any good bat into the fold. But

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<v Speaker 4>I especially like to fit here for Taylor Ward because

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<v Speaker 4>he's seen a little bit of a power outage, and

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<v Speaker 4>when I mean a little bit, I kind of mean

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<v Speaker 4>a lot. Thirty six jacks last year, only seven this season.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, he's rocking the highest on

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<v Speaker 4>base percentage of his career at three point eighty three.

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<v Speaker 4>And what do the Mariners not lack homers their fourteenth

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<v Speaker 4>and homers, it's not bad. They certainly lack guys who

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<v Speaker 4>can get on base. They ring twenty fifth in OBP,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty seventh in ops. Taylor Ward is going to provide

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<v Speaker 4>what the Mariners need. Guys who can get on base.

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<v Speaker 4>They got a couple big swingers. Just get on first

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<v Speaker 4>base and we'll deal with it from there. You can

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<v Speaker 4>play defense in right field as well, which has been

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a tough area for the Mariners this season.

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<v Speaker 4>Right They've kind of they've had Dominic Canzone, who, for

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<v Speaker 4>lack of a better term, kind of has a noodlelarm

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<v Speaker 4>out there on right field, definitely doesn't have the strongest arm.

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<v Speaker 4>They've also had Luke Rayley out there on right field.

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<v Speaker 4>They've kind of tried a different cast of characters. Now

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<v Speaker 4>you just get Taylor Ward. He's gonna play right field,

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna get on base at a three eighty clip,

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<v Speaker 4>and you hope that he can hit more home runs.

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<v Speaker 4>And just like Arms said, didn't cost very much. This

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<v Speaker 4>is a great trade for Seattle.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to take us over to Milwaukee, who

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<v Speaker 3>bolsters up and they could have added a back end

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<v Speaker 3>starter and another high leverage reliever. Dustin May and Jojo Romero.

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<v Speaker 3>They make their way within the within the division, from

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis to Milwaukee. So May and Jojo Romero go

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<v Speaker 3>from the Cardinals to the Brewers for a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>outfield prospects, Alexander Frias and Carson Ragsdale. Those of the

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<v Speaker 3>two that go back. What you got.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a graphic mistake, but it should be Josiah rag Sale.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Josiah Ragsdale, Yes, Josiah. I saw Carson Ragsdale

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<v Speaker 3>earlier on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see that might have been a Marsian. Ragsdale is

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<v Speaker 1>the pitcher, Yeah, Josi's the outfielder. And uh, I assume

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen a couple of names botched. I saw somebody

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<v Speaker 1>do Griffin Foster. I think that might have been a

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<v Speaker 1>prominent reporter mentioned Griffin.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, but there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my favorite trade because really what I like

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<v Speaker 1>I like to see the Brewers going for it, and

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<v Speaker 1>these are two guys that can absolutely help them. Heim

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<v Speaker 1>Bloom maximize this return. I think this was a a

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<v Speaker 1>really really good return for what they gave up. Brius

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<v Speaker 1>is a borderline, I think, top one hundred type of

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<v Speaker 1>candidate with what he's doing. If he could settle into

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<v Speaker 1>low way a little bit more guy who like four

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<v Speaker 1>forty the complex. He's long and lanky, but a good

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<v Speaker 1>athlete already plus bat speed has flashed, you know, exciting

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<v Speaker 1>eggs and velocities and again just tore through the complex league.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Zia Ragsdale has just been a classic example

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<v Speaker 1>of what the Brewers do. They get a good athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting player, they let him debut kind of see how

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<v Speaker 1>he does. And Ragsdale just was was good, not great

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<v Speaker 1>in his brief debut las year. I think overall you

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<v Speaker 1>saw really good OBP skills, but just didn't really put

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<v Speaker 1>much impact on the baseball. Subtle adjustments pushed his contact

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<v Speaker 1>point out further in front this year and he cuts

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<v Speaker 1>his groundball rate by twenty percent and he's launched now

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen homers between high A and double as a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with plus wheels, with now plus raw power that he's

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<v Speaker 1>getting into in games. And that was a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of an afterthought for you. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>seventh round pick that you invested two hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand dollars in last year, you immediately take and

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<v Speaker 1>you level up because it's the frickin' Brewers and their development.

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<v Speaker 1>Your pair of that with Freus, you know, an IFA guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which they just do such a good job on that front.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the player that.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the ceiling here with Alexander Frius again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could make a case for him being

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<v Speaker 1>top one hundred caliber four forty one five eighteen six

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight slash line in thirty two Arizona Complex games

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<v Speaker 1>as an eighteen year old, and he's already starting to

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<v Speaker 1>settle in low A. I love the upside of Fries,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for Dustin May and Jojo Romero and two

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<v Speaker 1>rentals right like yes, I like itsuse.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they koly have a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I think May is gonna be good with the Brewers

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<v Speaker 1>and Romero helps for sure, But man, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>upside of these two players, especially with Fries, is so

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<v Speaker 1>exciting to add to this cardinal system for rentals.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think Jojo Romero is one of the more

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<v Speaker 3>underrated lefty relievers in baseball just because He's a ground

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<v Speaker 3>ball gremlin. I mean, this guy he is. He's throwing

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<v Speaker 3>bowling balls like it's up there with Farrer Farrera. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>there was one hundred versus Romero's ninety five, but Romero

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<v Speaker 3>has been one of the more under the radar consistent

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<v Speaker 3>lefty bullpen arms in Major League Baseball. So I love

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<v Speaker 3>that Milwaukee went to go do this fortify the back

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<v Speaker 3>end of their rotation at least for the regular season.

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<v Speaker 3>In Dustin May, who's nasty and excited to see him

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<v Speaker 3>get working in the brewer lab, and then Joe Joe Romeiro,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think is another iron in the fire. And

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<v Speaker 3>they have what is pretty damn close to a super

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<v Speaker 3>penn at points with Ashby, with Patrick being able to

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<v Speaker 3>go four innings out of the bullpen, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>with mcgil and admir Yuribe on the back end, like

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<v Speaker 3>they have a lot of good stuff cooking pitching wise.

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<v Speaker 3>Do want to take us to the Mets? Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 3>where did Fink go? Vink was hanging out here for

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<v Speaker 3>a minute here, but he just disappeared. Huh Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think we were ready for the Mets.

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<v Speaker 4>But oh well, yeah, we were talking about good trades,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's like, I'm out of here. I haven't been

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<v Speaker 4>involved in any good mets trades all day long, so

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<v Speaker 4>I can understand why he might be upset so sad.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you know what, Fink's taking a nap. We

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<v Speaker 3>are actually going to talk about a met here. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to take us to WASCAR Braza Bond and.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's wait for Fink just to come back, because I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sure he will. And let's shout out h the goat

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<v Speaker 4>It's so much I'm telling.

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<v Speaker 3>You, it's funny. I was going to pivot us to

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox conversation, but if Fink is coming back,

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<v Speaker 3>then we can talk about the Mets. There were eight

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<v Speaker 3>New York Mets that were traded over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>the last month or so when you account for David Peterson.

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<v Speaker 3>But there were seven New York Mets that were traded

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<v Speaker 3>over the course of the last forty eight to seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two hours. And Ryan Finkelstein has made his valiant return.

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<v Speaker 3>He joins us now the seven New York Mets on

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<v Speaker 3>top of David Peterson that have been dealt in the

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<v Speaker 3>last seventy two hours. Clay Holmes and Tyrone and Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>they go to the Chicago Cubs. Brooks Raley he was traded.

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<v Speaker 3>Aj Minter was traded to Minnesota. Wastcar Braza Bond goes

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<v Speaker 3>to the White Sox, Luke Weaver to the Pirates, Freddy

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<v Speaker 3>Pearl to Tampa. Those are the seven guys, Ryan Finkelstein,

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<v Speaker 3>we were forecasting a New York met fire sale. Did

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<v Speaker 3>they do a good enough job? Yes? Or no? And what.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, look, I think based on the market that

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<v Speaker 7>we've seen, Like I look at each trade and I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think for most of them they did a bad

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<v Speaker 7>job on the return. I'm glad they got Jefferson Rojas

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<v Speaker 7>as the final move. That makes me feel a lot

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<v Speaker 7>better because I wouldn't be surprised if he slots in

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<v Speaker 7>as like the number one Mets prospect for a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of people after this, so I know for a pipeline

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<v Speaker 7>he already is that one.

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<v Speaker 5>I think say things a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>The trade that I'm actually really frustrated with is the

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<v Speaker 7>Luke Weaver deal.

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<v Speaker 5>That one I think is absolutely brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>Alone.

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<v Speaker 7>Luke Weaver for samis de Ferrow one for one.

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<v Speaker 2>I was okay with that.

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<v Speaker 5>It fell a little bit light, but.

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<v Speaker 7>The money that went the other way in the deal.

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<v Speaker 7>You're telling me that the pirates are going to be

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<v Speaker 7>paying Luke Weaver. Depends on who you ask, but I

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<v Speaker 7>saw either five point four million dollars over the next

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<v Speaker 7>year and a half or seven point five million dollars

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<v Speaker 7>either way. To not do better when that is what

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<v Speaker 7>Luke Weaver is costing financially is wild to me. So

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<v Speaker 7>that's the one that I think they really missed On

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<v Speaker 7>the other ones, I'm not really mad at most most of.

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<v Speaker 5>These trades are rentals.

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<v Speaker 7>So like, this is the one where I would have

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<v Speaker 7>just kept Luke Weaver as my closer for next season

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<v Speaker 7>and moved Devin Wins into the eighth inning right now

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<v Speaker 7>and just said, yeah, we set a high price tag

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<v Speaker 7>for Luke Weaver, nobody met it, and we're gonna hold

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<v Speaker 7>on to them because we're trying to win next season.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the one that frustrates me. Everything else, again, it's

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<v Speaker 7>mostly rental trades. I'm not gonna get too mad about.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the part I was and I know we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it briefly, think but it was like East

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<v Speaker 1>four Us is a really good athlete and a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't love early in Cincinnati, just because I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the swing was just so raw. It's gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better, but there's still some major swing and misconcerns.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have some questions about whether he's just gonna hit.

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<v Speaker 1>But twitchy athlete, can play, a good shortstop, can run,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a high upside guy that I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>excited to bring in a Northeast kid, which is fun

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I think literally grew up a Mets fan,

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<v Speaker 1>which is awesome, But when you're paying a really good

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<v Speaker 1>reliever down, I just thought you'd get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more than just Stefora, who still comes with some hit

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<v Speaker 1>too risk.

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<v Speaker 2>That said, we've talked about stra on the call up.

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<v Speaker 1>We do our heat sheets, and like he's been the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's come up because he has been on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the best stretches over the last month and a

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<v Speaker 1>half of really any player in minor league baseball. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a chance that something is just really clicked for

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<v Speaker 1>Stephora and he's he's just kicked it into another gear offensively, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is the hope.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's cool. I do want to kind of pivot

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<v Speaker 3>to the other side of some of these Mets deals.

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<v Speaker 1>But shit, I'm sorry, I didn't realize it's fifteen homers

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<v Speaker 1>by Stefhora in his last twenty games.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, there, don't think you might be getting a dog again.

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<v Speaker 7>When I first saw the one for one, I honestly

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<v Speaker 7>was happy with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was a good trade.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, all right, well, at least you're you're

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<v Speaker 7>getting off of even if the Mets ate all of Luke.

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<v Speaker 5>Weaver's money for this season.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, if you can reallocate twelve and a half million dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>you can get a Luke Weaver comp in free agency.

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<v Speaker 7>I just can't believe it that diar amount. They did

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<v Speaker 7>do a little bit better, and that's the bigger thing

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<v Speaker 7>for me. It's not even hating the prospect, it's hating

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<v Speaker 7>the return. When you're selling a year and a half

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<v Speaker 7>of Luke Weaver for seven and a half million dollars,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's on the high end. It might be five

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<v Speaker 7>point four. If Luke Weaver was a free agent off

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<v Speaker 7>of this season, what's he getting three years forty million?

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<v Speaker 7>Like for the Pirates to get a year and a

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<v Speaker 7>half of Luke Weaver for seven and a half million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>It is pretty insane. I think I think we can

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<v Speaker 3>talk about some of the other team's impacts from some

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<v Speaker 3>of these met deals, Like do you want to sit

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<v Speaker 3>here and talk about Brooks Rayley's impact on the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies or do you not care at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Start I really want to think to break down all

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<v Speaker 4>of the players that he traded away.

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<v Speaker 3>On you know what kind of arm of the White

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<v Speaker 3>Sox getting in WASCAR. Brazubon man, let us know.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know what, that was another one.

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<v Speaker 7>If there's another one that frustrates me, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 7>the Brazubon trade because it's just so much control of

1:17:57.640 --> 1:17:59.040
<v Speaker 7>a guy that I think is just going to throw

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<v Speaker 7>that sinker for the next three years and just keep

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<v Speaker 7>getting ounce. I mean, it's it's year after year. This

1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:07.720
<v Speaker 7>guy's never had like a bad season. It's just he

1:18:08.120 --> 1:18:12.320
<v Speaker 7>doesn't pitch and leverage, but he still is a multi

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<v Speaker 7>inning guy for the White Sox team My pitch and

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<v Speaker 7>leverage and he was nails in the World Baseball Classic too,

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<v Speaker 7>So that was another one where I get that gave

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<v Speaker 7>Davis is a nice lottery ticket for the Mets, But honestly,

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<v Speaker 7>I would have just kept Rozabond in the bullpen for

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<v Speaker 7>next season. So I feel like the Mets could have

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<v Speaker 7>had an alternate path where they just traded the rentals,

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<v Speaker 7>and I would have been actually a little more pleased

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<v Speaker 7>with what they did this deadline.

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<v Speaker 4>Would you think about the play Holmes deal, because I

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<v Speaker 4>know we've already talked about that from the Cubs angle.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know arm kind of broke down the prospect package,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm just curious what you thought, because you know, Weaver,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess was the biggest name move just because he's healthy.

1:18:47.760 --> 1:18:50.800
<v Speaker 4>But if we're talking about true talent, probably the best

1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:54.240
<v Speaker 4>player that left the Mets is Clay Holmes, Tyrone Taylor,

1:18:54.280 --> 1:18:56.400
<v Speaker 4>and you get Jefferson Rojas. I know you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned it off top, but anything else on that one.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the two the best returns that the Mets

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<v Speaker 7>got are actually homes in Peralta. I think I actually

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<v Speaker 7>like the three prospects collectively over Stafora for the Parolta trade,

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<v Speaker 7>especially when you factor in the extra year of control.

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<v Speaker 7>But as far as the Clay Holmes trade, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>look again, Jefferson Rojas is the best prospect the Mets

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<v Speaker 7>are getting at this deadline. They added a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>depth to their system, Like you said, I think eleven prospects.

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<v Speaker 7>They completely have a brand new infield in double A

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<v Speaker 7>now because Mitch Voyd just got called up. Now you

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<v Speaker 7>have Rojas that's going to be in double A. Billy

1:19:29.280 --> 1:19:31.800
<v Speaker 7>Amikho came in the Mentor trade is in double A.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's one more than I mean forgetting about here.

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<v Speaker 7>But regardless, I think Rojas is kind of the prize

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<v Speaker 7>of this deadline for the Mets, and so that if

1:19:39.880 --> 1:19:42.080
<v Speaker 7>they didn't get that piece, I'd feel a lot worse,

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<v Speaker 7>Like that's the one guy that you know is going

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<v Speaker 7>to be a top five Mets prospect according to everybody

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<v Speaker 7>after this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not Bruin Agbayani. He's not the prize possession of

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<v Speaker 3>the Met deadline.

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, I like the Mentor return more than the Raley return,

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<v Speaker 7>So I will say that, like interesting, I thought it

1:19:57.720 --> 1:19:59.040
<v Speaker 7>was going to be the other way around, But I did

1:19:59.080 --> 1:20:01.040
<v Speaker 7>like the Mentor eternal or turn a little bit more.

1:20:01.080 --> 1:20:03.960
<v Speaker 7>But again, like you can't really scrutinize rental trades.

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<v Speaker 2>You just can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's yeah, especially in this market.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, and let me build off Raleigh with you real quick,

1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:12.679
<v Speaker 3>because Brooks Raley is a guy that can give you headaches,

1:20:13.080 --> 1:20:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and Raleigh is a really interesting pickup for Philadelphia. I

1:20:17.040 --> 1:20:20.120
<v Speaker 3>think they needed some bullpen help getting to Doran and

1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:23.360
<v Speaker 3>getting to Kirkering and they got it here in a

1:20:23.439 --> 1:20:27.880
<v Speaker 3>lefty and Brooks Raleigh. How sustainable do you think he is?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like you could look at the arsenal

1:20:30.160 --> 1:20:32.840
<v Speaker 3>and look at the stuff and say he could get

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<v Speaker 3>annihilated in October, but he's also just been doing it

1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:38.720
<v Speaker 3>time and time again. And you're a guy that has

1:20:38.760 --> 1:20:41.640
<v Speaker 3>sat here and watched every single one of Rayley's outings.

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<v Speaker 7>Brooks Raley, I think, based on the sample and it

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<v Speaker 7>might be like one hundred and fifty innings, he has

1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:49.040
<v Speaker 7>like the second best era in Met's history for a reliever.

1:20:49.200 --> 1:20:52.240
<v Speaker 7>That's how good he was across four seasons since Adison

1:20:52.320 --> 1:20:55.679
<v Speaker 7>Reid and Brooks Raley. Brooks Raley didn't read how about

1:20:55.680 --> 1:21:00.360
<v Speaker 7>that that was a great pickup man twenty fifteen deadline,

1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:04.040
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, ten years ago, Yeah, you look.

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<v Speaker 5>At what Brooks Railey is going to give them.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just three consistent outs every time he said about that,

1:21:08.720 --> 1:21:09.960
<v Speaker 7>like he's gonna go out there, he's gonna get his

1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:11.680
<v Speaker 7>three outs, and a lot of times I might be on

1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:13.639
<v Speaker 7>nine pitches and just get a couple of ground balls.

1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:15.800
<v Speaker 7>And it's also I think a really nice piece to

1:21:15.920 --> 1:21:18.439
<v Speaker 7>be able to go up against all these lefties, like

1:21:18.439 --> 1:21:21.559
<v Speaker 7>in particular Brooks Rally is very familiar with pitching them

1:21:21.560 --> 1:21:23.519
<v Speaker 7>Matt Olson, so you know, if that's kind of the

1:21:23.520 --> 1:21:25.519
<v Speaker 7>matchup down the stretch for the Phillies or even you know,

1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:28.920
<v Speaker 7>the Dodgers, Like he's he's good against lefties, good against righty's,

1:21:28.960 --> 1:21:31.000
<v Speaker 7>and he's been pitching and leverage for most of his

1:21:31.080 --> 1:21:31.880
<v Speaker 7>tenure with the Mets.

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<v Speaker 5>So I really saw a pickup for the Phillies.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool, you guys have any other met based questions for

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<v Speaker 3>Fank or No? Are we gonna let him go wallow

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<v Speaker 3>in sadness?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I've predicted. I had three predictions for this trade deadline.

1:21:43.360 --> 1:21:46.519
<v Speaker 4>Derek Scooba was preordained to the Dodgers hit. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 4>Atlanta Braves. We're gonna have the most disappointing deadline. I mean,

1:21:49.720 --> 1:21:52.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm most disappointing, but it was certainly disappointing. One of

1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:54.520
<v Speaker 4>them and then the Mets. We're gonna win the deadline

1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:57.400
<v Speaker 4>because of how well David Stearns was going to perform

1:21:58.040 --> 1:22:00.719
<v Speaker 4>selling assets. I thought he was in the perfect spot.

1:22:00.760 --> 1:22:02.840
<v Speaker 4>I thought this is where you'll get the best of

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<v Speaker 4>David Stearns, and they arguably lost it. So I'm gonna

1:22:05.720 --> 1:22:08.760
<v Speaker 4>I went two for one or two for three. Not bad, right,

1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:09.920
<v Speaker 4>think bad?

1:22:10.000 --> 1:22:11.320
<v Speaker 5>Not bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Serious question.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've got to do lockdown, Matt's How excited

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<v Speaker 1>are you for the rest of the season now? Like

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<v Speaker 1>are they for the young guys that are gonna come up?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you? How do you dig in now?

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<v Speaker 3>For the rest of the He's on Robert stock Watch

1:22:25.400 --> 1:22:26.120
<v Speaker 3>every fifth day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually, I'm glad you brought that up.

1:22:29.200 --> 1:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually got emotional seeing Robert Stocket emotional after that start.

1:22:33.000 --> 1:22:36.439
<v Speaker 1>That guy's had a journey and had Jurassic outlet syndrome,

1:22:36.560 --> 1:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>like surgery like a few months ago. What the insane

1:22:41.840 --> 1:22:43.880
<v Speaker 1>easy to root for that guy? But yeah, sorry, thank

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<v Speaker 1>answer the question.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't wait to see two more months of Luis

1:22:47.520 --> 1:22:48.200
<v Speaker 7>Robert Jr.

1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:49.160
<v Speaker 5>I can't wait for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, why don't he get traded?

1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:53.720
<v Speaker 7>I honestly think they just they're just literally there was

1:22:53.760 --> 1:22:56.240
<v Speaker 7>no takers. I mean, you either could have eaten all

1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:56.800
<v Speaker 7>the money and.

1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Gotten a fly or prospect. You could have just tried

1:22:58.880 --> 1:23:01.400
<v Speaker 5>to get out of his buyout for next year. Couldn't

1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:01.800
<v Speaker 5>do that.

1:23:01.880 --> 1:23:04.720
<v Speaker 7>But I am excited on the stretch because you know,

1:23:04.960 --> 1:23:07.559
<v Speaker 7>I think Jonah Tong probably comes up and so I

1:23:07.600 --> 1:23:09.639
<v Speaker 7>think they maybe go six man and so you're gonna

1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:13.920
<v Speaker 7>get a start a week from Tong, Christian Scott, Noel McLain.

1:23:13.640 --> 1:23:15.400
<v Speaker 5>And Zach Dordon. I think that's fun.

1:23:15.400 --> 1:23:17.639
<v Speaker 7>They're also gonna throw a bunch of relievers that they're

1:23:17.640 --> 1:23:19.639
<v Speaker 7>gonna be trying out for next season, like Jeffrey Yon

1:23:20.160 --> 1:23:21.000
<v Speaker 7>is coming up around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the reason to watch alone.

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<v Speaker 7>So you got that and then you get to to

1:23:25.520 --> 1:23:28.200
<v Speaker 7>watch you and benjam McClain finished out the rookie season.

1:23:28.280 --> 1:23:30.680
<v Speaker 7>So compared to twenty twenty three, there's a lot more

1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:32.519
<v Speaker 7>to wash on the stretch than there was back then

1:23:32.520 --> 1:23:34.599
<v Speaker 7>when the Mets had their last fire sale. And I'll

1:23:34.600 --> 1:23:37.479
<v Speaker 7>be plugged into that new Binghamton Rumble Ponies infield too.

1:23:38.680 --> 1:23:40.720
<v Speaker 7>That's that's where you got to focus the content. Now

1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:43.960
<v Speaker 7>I'm a prospect show. Now all of a sudden rival college.

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<v Speaker 4>I think before you go, have you played the goat

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<v Speaker 4>lab app game? Because I'm looking at our comments right now,

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<v Speaker 4>we've got a bunch of people beating me.

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<v Speaker 3>This guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me show this here for Matthew just got six

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<v Speaker 4>D and twenty seven million dollar career earnings, Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen time All star, Peter's bond knowledge. That's now good question.

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<v Speaker 4>Go beat me. I'm telling you the winner gets a

1:24:09.840 --> 1:24:12.800
<v Speaker 4>free hat and a free shirt from Just Baseball, and

1:24:12.840 --> 1:24:15.160
<v Speaker 4>beyond just the prizes. It's going to be one of

1:24:15.200 --> 1:24:18.080
<v Speaker 4>those games that you're always playing in your downtime. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a really fun game. It's free. Remember to use the

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<v Speaker 4>QR code. Think. I'm really excited to see what you get.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Arma Jack, I've already played and beat the crap

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<v Speaker 4>out of me. I don't think I've played it right.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta go back and play it again. And eighty

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<v Speaker 4>six just isn't cutting it. I can't be soft side

1:24:30.960 --> 1:24:33.360
<v Speaker 4>of the platoon, Paul Goldschmidt, that's my copy. It's not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna work.

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<v Speaker 5>Alright, guys, do that. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. Think we're going to pivot the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>here to the Chicago White Sox and I And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, we've got a whole bunch of scores here.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I'm anonymous. I think that's my You are anonymous, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm anonymous? Who are you m Didn't you get the

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<v Speaker 3>same score that I thought?

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<v Speaker 2>I got a one o three? But maybe I lost

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<v Speaker 2>by a decimal?

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<v Speaker 4>There, shout out Tommy. You might win a free hat,

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<v Speaker 4>a free shirt from Just Baseball. Remember, guys, once there's

1:25:05.760 --> 1:25:07.920
<v Speaker 4>the QR code right there, use it, try and win.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go. I want to pivot the conversation here

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<v Speaker 3>to the Chicago White Sox because the White Sox they

1:25:16.120 --> 1:25:18.800
<v Speaker 3>bought to a certain extent here, and there were a

1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:21.439
<v Speaker 3>couple of big deals that came in. The first one

1:25:21.479 --> 1:25:23.720
<v Speaker 3>a few days ago was Louis Castile, obviously making the

1:25:23.760 --> 1:25:25.960
<v Speaker 3>move from the Seattle Mariners of the Chicago White Sox.

1:25:26.240 --> 1:25:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Luis Castillo goes to the White Sox for Sir Anthony Dominguez,

1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Nolan Jones, and then a catching prospect Boston Smith, who

1:25:32.640 --> 1:25:36.000
<v Speaker 3>they actually, funny enough acquired for Curtis Mead. The other

1:25:36.080 --> 1:25:40.040
<v Speaker 3>two that jumped out here h Wascar Brasabon. We just mentioned,

1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Brozabon adds to the White Sox bullpen here and he

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<v Speaker 3>can be a consistent arm. Brazobon goes from the Mets

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<v Speaker 3>of the White Sox for right hander Gabe Davis and

1:25:48.160 --> 1:25:50.840
<v Speaker 3>right hander Zach Franklin. And then the other one is

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<v Speaker 3>they go and get a center fielder here that it

1:25:53.600 --> 1:25:58.519
<v Speaker 3>seems like has some untapped athleticism right now in Brenton Doyle.

1:25:58.840 --> 1:26:01.559
<v Speaker 3>Brenton Doyle goes from the Colorado Rockies to the Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox for right hitter Mason Adams and church stop

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<v Speaker 3>Carlos Fioma. We've hit on Castile and Brazabon already. You

1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:12.160
<v Speaker 3>guys hit on Castile on Sunday Night Show. Brozabon, we

1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.679
<v Speaker 3>just hit on with Fink. But I want to pick

1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:17.479
<v Speaker 3>your brain on Brenton Doyle because this is a really

1:26:17.640 --> 1:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>interesting get for not a lot as it pertains to

1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:24.599
<v Speaker 3>prospect capital here. I think this is a fun flyer

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<v Speaker 3>to take when they've been hunting outfielders for months at

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<v Speaker 3>this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Yeah, I think it was very clear for this

1:26:31.880 --> 1:26:34.880
<v Speaker 1>team that like that they wanted to one try to

1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>get some controllable pieces. But I think more importantly like

1:26:37.920 --> 1:26:39.960
<v Speaker 1>they weren't going to put all the chips forward, so

1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:43.479
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be more like Bilow strategic opportunities here. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think they see a super talent at Brenton Doyle,

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<v Speaker 1>where the defensive metrics are always gonna be a little

1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:51.080
<v Speaker 1>bit shoddy, and in course, this guy's gonna go play

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<v Speaker 1>an elite center field and I think we've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>through stretches and getting get in to Chicago. Just getting out,

1:26:57.240 --> 1:26:58.880
<v Speaker 1>of course is only going to help them in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I really like is, and you alluded to this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know before we started recording, is just that Derek

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<v Speaker 1>Schouman's as good as they come when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>just just not only developing hitters, but guys that with

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<v Speaker 1>and are trying to find it right Like we've seen

1:27:12.840 --> 1:27:15.360
<v Speaker 1>so many of those guys in Miami before Showman was

1:27:15.439 --> 1:27:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, poached over and brought over to Chicago to

1:27:18.479 --> 1:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>the South Side that made leaps and credit Showman. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a fun one because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need him to become Kyle Stowers, you don't need him

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<v Speaker 1>to become Murakami. If Brenon Doyle is a ninety WRC plus,

1:27:33.720 --> 1:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a two to three war player and he's an easy,

1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>great addition to the fold there. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>just figuring out how to get him from not being

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst hitters in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And it should be all up from here.

1:27:46.840 --> 1:27:50.160
<v Speaker 3>And the ninety WRC plus can show itself in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>homers and twenty backs. That's the coolest thing about this,

1:27:53.320 --> 1:27:55.799
<v Speaker 3>where it could be like low batting average, okay, whatever,

1:27:56.360 --> 1:27:58.599
<v Speaker 3>and the k rate could still be there a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>But ninety wrs plus in a twenty twenty guy with

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<v Speaker 3>elite defense in center. I'm signing up for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it doesn't work, sorry, Peter, say it. If

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't work, like, who cares. You didn't give up much,

1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>And that was clearly that the prerogative for the White

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<v Speaker 1>Sox was.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to give up any of our top

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<v Speaker 2>ten prospects.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what I was going to say, Like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>that fun flyer to make, and if it doesn't work out,

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<v Speaker 4>you won't lose sleep over this deal at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, you can cough if you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it out of my road there.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some comments about and I realized that where

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck are the Reds?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Is it nothing?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Did you guys see that that it was reported

1:28:40.439 --> 1:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>like thirty minutes before the deadline? Brady Singer's staying put.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, why, Yeah, what's purpose? And why did

1:28:47.600 --> 1:28:51.800
<v Speaker 4>you declare it before the deadline ended? That? That made

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<v Speaker 4>no sense to me. I feel like the Reds had

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<v Speaker 4>an opportunity here to either buy kind of like the

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Jays did, maybe for next year, or sell off

1:29:00.640 --> 1:29:02.599
<v Speaker 4>expiring pieces, do something.

1:29:02.960 --> 1:29:06.519
<v Speaker 3>So all they dealt was Nathaniel Lowe to Cleveland and

1:29:06.680 --> 1:29:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Caleb Ferguson for international bonus pool money.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't even get it, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they got Juan Brito, who was DFA.

1:29:16.479 --> 1:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>They got the idrea about DFA.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they got the idea of a person in international

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<v Speaker 4>bonus pool money and they got a guy I got dfaied.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they just spent their whole time workshopping

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Green, Mega Trades and not my home.

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<v Speaker 4>They did nothing else. It's listening to our show and

1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:34.920
<v Speaker 4>being like, wow, maybe that is a good Wow.

1:29:34.960 --> 1:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Fifty to fifty chance Buster says, wow, that's good to hear.

1:29:38.160 --> 1:29:40.640
<v Speaker 4>That they finally nailed it with their bottle and then

1:29:40.720 --> 1:29:42.960
<v Speaker 4>they pitched it out. People were like, we don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To do that, and they're like, oh no, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>so fo Yeah that would have been great four minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Four.

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<v Speaker 2>So on a serious note, like.

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<v Speaker 1>The Reds might need to be talked about as one

1:29:57.160 --> 1:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>of those teams like not operating, not really doing what

1:30:02.720 --> 1:30:03.679
<v Speaker 1>they need to be doing.

1:30:04.439 --> 1:30:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I will push back on that because they ace Chase

1:30:07.439 --> 1:30:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Burns going number two overall when nobody's.

1:30:09.600 --> 1:30:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's good. You took akakazoid.

1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Sal Stewart looks like a nationally Rookie of the Year

1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>front runner. Yes, yeah, at least a superstar. But their

1:30:22.800 --> 1:30:23.920
<v Speaker 3>margin moves are not good.

1:30:24.240 --> 1:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Like process, like their process, their process.

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<v Speaker 3>Might not be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I just don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that Gavin looks for Mike Sirota trade might

1:30:34.680 --> 1:30:36.559
<v Speaker 4>end up being like one of the worst trades that

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen. And I don't mean to pile on them.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the point, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm watching they're on like they were always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in like the middle, don't really pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to you tier you don't do anything great you don't

1:30:48.200 --> 1:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>do anything terrible, but like, I just think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>running the.

1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Mill front office. Starting to think of them is.

1:30:55.400 --> 1:30:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Like a bottom tier operation there and I'm just just watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wanted to put it out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Did we miss any other trades? I feel like there

1:31:03.320 --> 1:31:05.200
<v Speaker 4>definitely some trades that we have missed.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool, Let's go, Let's go rapid fire. I've got a

1:31:07.920 --> 1:31:12.320
<v Speaker 3>few more written down here. Again, Casey Mize was a

1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:16.280
<v Speaker 3>buzzer beater for San Diego. Not only does San Diego

1:31:16.280 --> 1:31:18.519
<v Speaker 3>ad Casey Mice, but they also had Robbie Ray from

1:31:18.560 --> 1:31:21.160
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco. Robbie Ray has been throwing like one of

1:31:21.160 --> 1:31:23.519
<v Speaker 3>the better arms in Major League Baseball. Of it last bit,

1:31:23.640 --> 1:31:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Robbie Ray goes from San Francisco to San Diego for

1:31:26.240 --> 1:31:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Miguel Mendez and Johnny L. Hernandez. Robbie Ray all of

1:31:30.800 --> 1:31:34.360
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, combined with Michael King, combined with Casey Mice,

1:31:34.960 --> 1:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>give San Diego this rotation that isn't like you're trying

1:31:38.880 --> 1:31:42.160
<v Speaker 3>to piece it together with Hermon Marquez, And as Bueler

1:31:42.200 --> 1:31:44.800
<v Speaker 3>slides down to the four or five, you start to

1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:46.880
<v Speaker 3>feel good about San Diego to the rest of the

1:31:46.920 --> 1:31:47.639
<v Speaker 3>regular season.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent, just real quick on this one. There's

1:31:51.040 --> 1:31:55.680
<v Speaker 4>no more opener to Griffin Canning. There's no more Hermon Marquees.

1:31:56.000 --> 1:31:59.760
<v Speaker 4>You're getting Robbie Ray and freaking Casey Mize right and

1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:03.559
<v Speaker 4>they might not be like top end elite starting pitchers,

1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:06.679
<v Speaker 4>but Casey mis has been pitching like it this year

1:32:06.840 --> 1:32:09.679
<v Speaker 4>and Robbie Ray's putting up a really solid season two again,

1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:12.519
<v Speaker 4>just raising the floor in the only area the Padres

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<v Speaker 4>are really struggling at right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And Peter, let me build off that real quick. They

1:32:16.280 --> 1:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>were already a couple games over five hundred when they

1:32:18.720 --> 1:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>were opening for Griffin Canning and running in from.

1:32:21.160 --> 1:32:25.040
<v Speaker 4>Market right now, and like, if I'm a family.

1:32:24.840 --> 1:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Dude, Merrill, Merrill's playing unbelievable ball right now. He's playing

1:32:30.000 --> 1:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>like that Rookie of the Year runner up Meryl At

1:32:32.080 --> 1:32:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Tatisa's back, Machado is kind of like getting into the

1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.120
<v Speaker 3>power surge. I think he's realizing that there are too

1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:39.599
<v Speaker 3>many numbers out there and two zero five isn't going

1:32:39.640 --> 1:32:41.759
<v Speaker 3>to cut it, but like, might as well hit thirty

1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:44.200
<v Speaker 3>five bombs this year, So, uh, there's some good stuff

1:32:44.240 --> 1:32:44.559
<v Speaker 3>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Other thing with it is like Miz is a

1:32:48.280 --> 1:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>good option to potentially, you know, when he's on, he

1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>get pitch deeper into games and give the bullpen a

1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:53.559
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a day off.

1:32:53.600 --> 1:32:56.439
<v Speaker 2>Like Robbie Ray. You can five and dive them.

1:32:56.880 --> 1:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>All you need is a quality five from me each

1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:01.519
<v Speaker 1>of your starters, and you're you're in the driver's seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

1:33:02.479 --> 1:33:04.719
<v Speaker 2>The rest of the way, they kept all their relievers, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm happy that they held it out. Yeah, I am

1:33:08.040 --> 1:33:10.360
<v Speaker 3>over the moon happy that they held on to Mason Miller.

1:33:10.400 --> 1:33:13.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm ecstatic they hung onto Morohone for their sake, Like

1:33:14.720 --> 1:33:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Morohone is. I get it a rental, but Morohone to

1:33:18.400 --> 1:33:22.679
<v Speaker 3>them means so much, and that super pen means so much.

1:33:22.760 --> 1:33:25.960
<v Speaker 3>It's their ticket in over the final next two months

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<v Speaker 3>or over the final two months. We've had four other I.

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<v Speaker 4>Just quickly I got to disagree on that part. Not

1:33:31.320 --> 1:33:33.800
<v Speaker 4>trading Adrian Morohone. You could have gave him to the

1:33:33.880 --> 1:33:37.320
<v Speaker 4>Yankees for cash considerations. I don't know why the Padres

1:33:37.360 --> 1:33:40.519
<v Speaker 4>didn't do me personally a favor by sending one of

1:33:40.560 --> 1:33:44.120
<v Speaker 4>my favorite left handed relievers over to the Yankees. But seriously,

1:33:44.280 --> 1:33:45.840
<v Speaker 4>I agree with everything that you said.

1:33:45.880 --> 1:33:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I just had he was the guy I wanted so badly,

1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>and I thought they might because the Hall would be crazy.

1:33:51.240 --> 1:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like he might even just he might

1:33:53.000 --> 1:33:54.679
<v Speaker 1>have just tipped his hand and said, like, I'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Just resign with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gus.

1:33:55.360 --> 1:33:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Did you see this sorse off between like Paymen and

1:33:58.280 --> 1:33:59.320
<v Speaker 4>Nightingale and so.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a good old source off.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was back and forth about like did

1:34:03.840 --> 1:34:07.080
<v Speaker 4>the Yankees or the Padres decline a Will Warren for

1:34:07.320 --> 1:34:10.559
<v Speaker 4>Adri morrilone offer? And then Hayman the next day, when

1:34:10.640 --> 1:34:14.600
<v Speaker 4>someone already said Nightingale's report was wrong, adds another prospect

1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:17.080
<v Speaker 4>on top of it and said that the Padres declined.

1:34:17.400 --> 1:34:20.640
<v Speaker 4>All of that was crazy, and ultimately we get absolutely.

1:34:20.080 --> 1:34:20.759
<v Speaker 2>We get nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Quick shout on the return to Miguel Mendez throws fuel

1:34:25.120 --> 1:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>fuel fastbaverage is ninety seven to five. He's got a

1:34:28.320 --> 1:34:32.559
<v Speaker 1>four Seemer and a two seamer Ray Yeah to going

1:34:32.600 --> 1:34:35.519
<v Speaker 1>to San France and what you and the slider in

1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the mid eighties is gross. And then Yanniel Hernandez is

1:34:38.880 --> 1:34:43.439
<v Speaker 1>probably in a slightly barren system seventeen year old interesting

1:34:43.520 --> 1:34:46.519
<v Speaker 1>upside in the DSL. So I again the giants, I

1:34:46.560 --> 1:34:49.200
<v Speaker 1>thought that as well, as anybody in terms of maximizing

1:34:49.200 --> 1:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>their returns.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, real cool. We've got four other guys we got

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<v Speaker 3>to go over here. One of them is Chris Bubich,

1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:58.479
<v Speaker 3>who goes from the Royals to the La Dodgers. Here,

1:34:59.040 --> 1:35:02.599
<v Speaker 3>Chris Boubich again, who has been hurt for quite a bit,

1:35:03.200 --> 1:35:06.960
<v Speaker 3>goes in return for Carlos Durrant a right handed pitcher

1:35:07.439 --> 1:35:09.879
<v Speaker 3>or what do you have on Carlos Doran Here.

1:35:10.439 --> 1:35:13.559
<v Speaker 1>Carlos ran throws hard and that was a guy that

1:35:13.680 --> 1:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to say got up for a cup of coffee,

1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>if I'm more correctly, And then it's just been now

1:35:21.000 --> 1:35:22.400
<v Speaker 1>hanging out and it was last year. He has been

1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:25.479
<v Speaker 1>hanging out in the PCL but spig swing and missed

1:35:25.520 --> 1:35:27.120
<v Speaker 1>offf going to take a chance to see if the

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<v Speaker 1>command can get any better.

1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:29.799
<v Speaker 2>But command's consistently been a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just feels like low cost to acquire for

1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's hurt and Bubach that's working his way

1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:37.479
<v Speaker 1>back that you're hoping can just potentially just be available

1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>for the stretch run of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why the Dodgers did this. Buobach is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a free agent at the end of

1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:51.600
<v Speaker 4>the season. I mean, it didn't cost them much, but

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't know if he's gonna return. He's still

1:35:55.280 --> 1:35:57.960
<v Speaker 4>in the sixty day IL and he's dealing with not

1:35:58.000 --> 1:36:02.960
<v Speaker 4>only an elbow injury but a shoal injury as well.

1:36:03.760 --> 1:36:06.320
<v Speaker 4>I guess he started a throwing program in late July

1:36:06.479 --> 1:36:08.800
<v Speaker 4>and is expected to pitch again this season. So maybe

1:36:08.800 --> 1:36:11.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm wrong, but it just feels like a guy who

1:36:11.280 --> 1:36:16.080
<v Speaker 4>hasn't really gotten going yet, maybe just in case, and

1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:17.920
<v Speaker 4>they were like, we like him so much that we're

1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.160
<v Speaker 4>just gonna take the chance if he is healthy, get

1:36:20.200 --> 1:36:24.160
<v Speaker 4>him an hour program. So I think trading for Terrek

1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Scoopl is fine ultimately, but I draw the line at

1:36:26.920 --> 1:36:29.759
<v Speaker 4>getting Kris Kovich. I think now we're officially headed.

1:36:29.520 --> 1:36:30.440
<v Speaker 5>To a lockout.

1:36:30.680 --> 1:36:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fair upside play. Just hope if he's healthy. If not,

1:36:33.520 --> 1:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>who cares you? Carlos Duryant, Yeah, that's one.

1:36:36.840 --> 1:36:40.839
<v Speaker 3>Of the little swapperuni of Big leaguers. Here, Dalton Varshow

1:36:40.880 --> 1:36:43.560
<v Speaker 3>goes from the Toronto Blue Jays to the Houston Astros.

1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:47.360
<v Speaker 3>In return, Spencer Arraghetti goes from the Astros to the

1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Blue Jays.

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting one here, I dig the var show ad for

1:36:52.320 --> 1:36:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Houston because they were running out Lucas Spence in center field.

1:36:56.640 --> 1:37:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Houston needed a center fielder. They just needed another bat

1:37:00.040 --> 1:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>at the bottom or middle to bottom of that lineup.

1:37:02.640 --> 1:37:05.920
<v Speaker 3>If Varshow is their six hitting center fielder with the

1:37:06.080 --> 1:37:10.639
<v Speaker 3>chance for thump in a more hitter friendly ballpark, playing

1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:13.000
<v Speaker 3>gold Glove caliber defense in center as well, just from

1:37:13.080 --> 1:37:15.720
<v Speaker 3>like a range factor perspective, I think this is a

1:37:15.720 --> 1:37:18.479
<v Speaker 3>fun yet for Houston, and I think Houston like they

1:37:18.479 --> 1:37:22.559
<v Speaker 3>didn't need to do much to be buyers at the deadline.

1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I thought Dana Brown actually did a good job like

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<v Speaker 3>not blowing up the farm system. I thought Kevin Alvaros

1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:29.760
<v Speaker 3>was moving, to be honest with you, like the way

1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Houston was talking, I thought he was going to sell

1:37:32.680 --> 1:37:35.280
<v Speaker 3>their top five prospects in hopes of keeping his job.

1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:39.760
<v Speaker 3>But they're playing outstanding baseball right now, and they look

1:37:39.840 --> 1:37:42.320
<v Speaker 3>like a team that can really win the AL West

1:37:42.400 --> 1:37:45.040
<v Speaker 3>is currently constructed, and they get better in centerfield with

1:37:45.120 --> 1:37:45.879
<v Speaker 3>Tulton Barshow.

1:37:46.200 --> 1:37:49.840
<v Speaker 4>They're hot, and they needed anyone to play center field.

1:37:49.960 --> 1:37:52.519
<v Speaker 4>And I like the swing for a guy like Dalton

1:37:52.560 --> 1:37:55.960
<v Speaker 4>Varshow because we do know that when Varshow is right,

1:37:56.120 --> 1:37:58.280
<v Speaker 4>he's one of the more dynamic players in all of

1:37:58.360 --> 1:38:01.479
<v Speaker 4>Major League Baseball because he can really defend his position

1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:05.080
<v Speaker 4>at center field. But he for the Blue Jays last

1:38:05.160 --> 1:38:08.639
<v Speaker 4>year seventy games in the regular season swatted twenty homers.

1:38:08.640 --> 1:38:10.639
<v Speaker 4>Like that's the type of power he can also bring.

1:38:10.840 --> 1:38:13.080
<v Speaker 4>You could also be a menace on the baits pass.

1:38:13.400 --> 1:38:16.960
<v Speaker 4>And I look at to just center field production for

1:38:17.000 --> 1:38:21.120
<v Speaker 4>the Houston Astros this season, there's seventy two WRC plus

1:38:21.120 --> 1:38:24.639
<v Speaker 4>in center field ranks twenty ninth. They have a clean

1:38:24.920 --> 1:38:29.360
<v Speaker 4>zero point zero f war in centerfield again, which is

1:38:29.400 --> 1:38:33.160
<v Speaker 4>one of the worst in baseball. So at the very worst,

1:38:33.600 --> 1:38:36.280
<v Speaker 4>Dalton Varshow is just going to give you the exact

1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:39.640
<v Speaker 4>production that you're used to, or he could be a

1:38:39.680 --> 1:38:41.960
<v Speaker 4>lot better. And he also was a beast in the

1:38:41.960 --> 1:38:44.519
<v Speaker 4>postseason two. So Jack, if they do win the West

1:38:44.640 --> 1:38:47.519
<v Speaker 4>or they make a wildcut or anything like that, maybe

1:38:47.520 --> 1:38:50.280
<v Speaker 4>you get a focus Dalton Varshow in the playoffs. That

1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:52.400
<v Speaker 4>could be a big time hitter for you. And all

1:38:52.439 --> 1:38:55.320
<v Speaker 4>it really costs is Spencer Arraghedtty. And it just feels

1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:57.080
<v Speaker 4>like the Astros have kind of been up and down

1:38:57.120 --> 1:39:00.160
<v Speaker 4>with Araghetty and Ragedtty himself has been kind of up

1:39:00.200 --> 1:39:03.040
<v Speaker 4>and down. You see the stuff, right, the strikeout rate

1:39:03.120 --> 1:39:05.240
<v Speaker 4>is always really high, but then he has some games

1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:07.599
<v Speaker 4>where he just gets pelted. He has no idea where

1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:10.000
<v Speaker 4>the baseball is going. And I think they were just like,

1:39:10.080 --> 1:39:12.600
<v Speaker 4>you know what, it feels like, it's not going to

1:39:12.680 --> 1:39:15.720
<v Speaker 4>work here, Let's capitalize. Let's address a position and need,

1:39:15.760 --> 1:39:18.880
<v Speaker 4>and that is center field. So I think it was

1:39:18.960 --> 1:39:21.439
<v Speaker 4>ultimately a good move on both sides. Like I think

1:39:21.640 --> 1:39:26.840
<v Speaker 4>the Blue Jays netting Aarraghetti, there's still clear potential in

1:39:26.920 --> 1:39:30.519
<v Speaker 4>that arm. It's one of those where we'll see what happens.

1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:32.719
<v Speaker 4>It's really tough to declare a winner right now because

1:39:32.760 --> 1:39:35.720
<v Speaker 4>both of them need to bounce back, and I don't

1:39:35.720 --> 1:39:37.560
<v Speaker 4>know who's going to bounce back, but at least for

1:39:37.600 --> 1:39:40.640
<v Speaker 4>the Astros, you can't get any worse in centerfield.

1:39:41.439 --> 1:39:45.799
<v Speaker 3>Correct, Alright, You got any other thoughts on Araghedty or Varsha.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I think was Nesky coming back made Araghetty maybe

1:39:48.560 --> 1:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more expendable as well. It's just kind

1:39:50.800 --> 1:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>of like that last rotation spot. And yeah, now Carlos

1:39:54.160 --> 1:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Carrea is not rolling out potentially trying to return by

1:39:56.640 --> 1:39:58.240
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, so maybe that can help

1:39:58.280 --> 1:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>them down the stretch. I think the Astros were swinging

1:40:01.080 --> 1:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>a little bit bigger, trying to find a bigger bat,

1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:07.439
<v Speaker 1>but asking prices. We're tall, and I was surprised similarly, Jack,

1:40:07.479 --> 1:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that they had the discipline to not overpay for a

1:40:11.080 --> 1:40:13.280
<v Speaker 1>team that like, yeah, you just should add, but I

1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:15.519
<v Speaker 1>don't think you should do anything crazy here, as you're

1:40:15.600 --> 1:40:17.880
<v Speaker 1>just starting to rebuild that farm back up and may

1:40:17.920 --> 1:40:19.439
<v Speaker 1>have a turnover in the front office.

1:40:19.600 --> 1:40:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Real quick, Jack, before we move on to the next trade,

1:40:22.439 --> 1:40:24.559
<v Speaker 4>I really want to answer this comment because we didn't

1:40:24.600 --> 1:40:27.840
<v Speaker 4>touch on the Foster Griffin return. We just got all

1:40:27.920 --> 1:40:29.760
<v Speaker 4>hyped up for the Guardians to the fact that they

1:40:29.840 --> 1:40:32.280
<v Speaker 4>got Foster Griffin and then we found out about the

1:40:32.320 --> 1:40:34.719
<v Speaker 4>return later. So this comes to us from l Walt

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<v Speaker 4>to seven in our YouTube live. First of all, thank

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<v Speaker 4>be the last deadline episode you hear from us, and

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<v Speaker 4>we got a lot of great guests planned this week

1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:58.599
<v Speaker 4>as well to break down the deadline. So again this

1:40:58.680 --> 1:41:01.720
<v Speaker 4>comment see a lot of PEO people hating on the

1:41:01.760 --> 1:41:05.599
<v Speaker 4>Foster Griffin return. I don't understand why the Nats committed

1:41:05.640 --> 1:41:09.360
<v Speaker 4>to a quantity over quality approach to fix their lack

1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:11.800
<v Speaker 4>of arms in the system and they only, at the

1:41:11.880 --> 1:41:14.559
<v Speaker 4>end of the day get two months of Foster Griffin

1:41:14.840 --> 1:41:17.280
<v Speaker 4>podcast B. I don't know if you have it readily available,

1:41:17.320 --> 1:41:21.759
<v Speaker 4>but I would love to hear both you and Arm's

1:41:21.840 --> 1:41:23.000
<v Speaker 4>opinion on this return.

1:41:23.439 --> 1:41:26.760
<v Speaker 3>So the return real quick is three pictures in an outfielder.

1:41:26.800 --> 1:41:31.000
<v Speaker 3>The three pictures will Dion, Josh Hartele, and Ken Deglees

1:41:31.280 --> 1:41:35.479
<v Speaker 3>Verguez I think, and then outfielder Nick Mitchell is going

1:41:35.520 --> 1:41:38.519
<v Speaker 3>back as well. Dion and Hardle are the guys that

1:41:39.160 --> 1:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot known about those two. Dion

1:41:42.200 --> 1:41:45.479
<v Speaker 3>is an upper miners guy, and then Josh Hardle former

1:41:45.520 --> 1:41:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Wake Forest guy who was a pirate if I'm not mistaken, yep,

1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>and it is way there in the Horwitz deal with

1:41:51.960 --> 1:41:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Louis Ortiz.

1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that three team deal and then dealt again.

1:41:56.400 --> 1:41:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Hardle is kind of a funky left he that I

1:41:59.479 --> 1:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>think could end just being a back end of the

1:42:01.240 --> 1:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>rotation ending Zeter, He's continued to be effective at double A.

1:42:04.160 --> 1:42:05.559
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's a decent get.

1:42:05.600 --> 1:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>And then I think we were seeing the Nats just

1:42:07.160 --> 1:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>continue to pursue these like high octane stuff relief types,

1:42:11.200 --> 1:42:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and like that's what they get with Virguez.

1:42:13.880 --> 1:42:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got a lively fastball.

1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>It's ninety eight miles an hour from a really low release,

1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:22.720
<v Speaker 1>like a four to nine release, which is crazy. It's

1:42:22.760 --> 1:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>like almost a foot below league average from that velocity.

1:42:26.280 --> 1:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>That's super rare.

1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:28.599
<v Speaker 1>Like if you do a query of how many fastballs

1:42:28.600 --> 1:42:30.679
<v Speaker 1>are going ninety seven plus miles per hour from a

1:42:30.720 --> 1:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>sub five.

1:42:31.160 --> 1:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Foot release, I don't think you're gonna find maybe any.

1:42:33.920 --> 1:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's a really unique reliever there with this crazy

1:42:37.000 --> 1:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>cutter off of that. So I think that's a guy

1:42:39.400 --> 1:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that you look at potentially could fast track to a

1:42:41.600 --> 1:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>big league relief opportunity. There you get the high floor

1:42:44.840 --> 1:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>left hander. Mitchell's kind of just a throw in. But

1:42:47.680 --> 1:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I think overall, like people may be expecting a little

1:42:50.200 --> 1:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>bit more for you know, a bigger ticket arm, But

1:42:54.920 --> 1:42:57.519
<v Speaker 1>I agree with with the original sentiment, which is they

1:42:57.520 --> 1:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>want more volume and you get a couple guys that

1:43:00.240 --> 1:43:02.519
<v Speaker 1>I think are high probability big leaguers in different ways,

1:43:03.280 --> 1:43:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and even like a Will Dion, I think there's just

1:43:05.400 --> 1:43:08.240
<v Speaker 1>so some intrigue there as well. I don't I don't

1:43:08.240 --> 1:43:10.439
<v Speaker 1>hate it at all. You could have maybe got one

1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:13.080
<v Speaker 1>higher impact player. But again, I think the Nationals are

1:43:13.080 --> 1:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>looking at relief arms and you know, closer to big

1:43:15.640 --> 1:43:18.240
<v Speaker 1>league ready arms that can help them sooner rather than later.

1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Dion's good depth and then high octane potential reliever. And

1:43:23.360 --> 1:43:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure, I said Verguez, So.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think the Nats should be disappointed in this return?

1:43:30.240 --> 1:43:31.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think so.

1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's at the end of the day, it's

1:43:35.080 --> 1:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>a rental pitch ability Lefty that he's been really really good.

1:43:39.080 --> 1:43:42.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think it was the quantity over quality as

1:43:42.200 --> 1:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that was alluded to, and I think that's kind of

1:43:43.960 --> 1:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>been the Tiboni approach in general with most of the

1:43:45.960 --> 1:43:47.640
<v Speaker 1>trades that they've made.

1:43:47.840 --> 1:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, we've got two more deals off the

1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:53.040
<v Speaker 3>top of our head. By the way, how about a

1:43:53.040 --> 1:43:55.960
<v Speaker 3>minor leaguer for minor leaguer swap here Seth Johnson for

1:43:56.080 --> 1:43:59.680
<v Speaker 3>Colby Thomas. Seth Johnson goes from the Phillies to the

1:43:59.800 --> 1:44:03.080
<v Speaker 3>A for outfield er Colby Thomas. Thomas has some big

1:44:03.160 --> 1:44:05.200
<v Speaker 3>league runs, Seth Johnson has some big league run as

1:44:05.200 --> 1:44:08.519
<v Speaker 3>well out of the Philly bullpen. So Thomas is added

1:44:08.560 --> 1:44:11.880
<v Speaker 3>to the Phillies, and Jason Stark also mentions Philly was

1:44:11.920 --> 1:44:14.880
<v Speaker 3>looking for another reliever or starter but ran out of time.

1:44:15.479 --> 1:44:17.760
<v Speaker 3>I wonder what that means. I wonder how big a

1:44:17.760 --> 1:44:21.760
<v Speaker 3>fish they were looking to land. Philadelphia could probably use

1:44:21.840 --> 1:44:25.960
<v Speaker 3>one more starting pitcher here. But been a very fun

1:44:25.960 --> 1:44:29.240
<v Speaker 3>to watch how Philly is operated at the deadline so far,

1:44:29.520 --> 1:44:32.439
<v Speaker 3>and it was I think more subdued than a lot

1:44:32.439 --> 1:44:35.439
<v Speaker 3>of people were anticipating. But they go and get a rise,

1:44:35.600 --> 1:44:37.760
<v Speaker 3>and they go and get Rayley, and here they had

1:44:37.800 --> 1:44:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Colby Thomas as a bench outfield bat which they could

1:44:40.280 --> 1:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>certainly utilize.

1:44:42.240 --> 1:44:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think it's just good depth right handed athlete.

1:44:46.160 --> 1:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>I've always been a little bit, well, we're on him,

1:44:47.880 --> 1:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>but the guy's mashed in the upper miners, and you

1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:52.519
<v Speaker 1>just added a guy that can play all three outfield

1:44:52.520 --> 1:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>spots and give you some depth. And I think any

1:44:55.960 --> 1:44:59.439
<v Speaker 1>arm that they could possibly get for Sacramento and for the.

1:44:59.520 --> 1:45:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Fox work, yeah, Hey, like I guess The question is

1:45:03.400 --> 1:45:06.639
<v Speaker 3>do you want Colby Thomas or Brian de Lacruz, Derek Hill,

1:45:06.640 --> 1:45:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Gabriel Ringconis Junior? And I think the answer right now

1:45:08.960 --> 1:45:09.799
<v Speaker 3>is Colby Thomas.

1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:12.360
<v Speaker 2>It might be it might be Thomas, Brian de la

1:45:12.400 --> 1:45:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Cruz kind of raking, right.

1:45:13.479 --> 1:45:18.320
<v Speaker 4>He's been raking for eleven It's it's funny when you

1:45:18.320 --> 1:45:20.760
<v Speaker 4>were listing off those dames, Jack, I'm like, hey, those

1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:22.599
<v Speaker 4>are some of the best hitters in the Phillies lineup

1:45:22.640 --> 1:45:23.640
<v Speaker 4>right now with Derek.

1:45:23.400 --> 1:45:26.680
<v Speaker 3>Hill, not Ringconis. Ringcon has hit a home run and

1:45:26.680 --> 1:45:27.599
<v Speaker 3>then he just went dormant.

1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:30.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you brought him up, not Ringcotis. I think

1:45:30.280 --> 1:45:33.559
<v Speaker 4>it's Colby Thomas or Ringconas, And I would choose almost

1:45:33.600 --> 1:45:35.320
<v Speaker 4>anybody else except Riingcotas right now.

1:45:36.160 --> 1:45:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, uh, two more trades that we want to get

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<v Speaker 3>to here. Number one is Joe Adell. Joe Adell goes

1:45:43.320 --> 1:45:45.600
<v Speaker 3>from the Angels to the Cleveland Guardians and this is

1:45:45.640 --> 1:45:48.560
<v Speaker 3>part of the Guardian by the Guardians again. They go

1:45:48.600 --> 1:45:51.479
<v Speaker 3>and get Nathaniel Lowe, they go and get Foster Griffin,

1:45:51.600 --> 1:45:55.520
<v Speaker 3>and they also add Joe Adele. Adele has obviously experienced

1:45:55.840 --> 1:45:58.040
<v Speaker 3>a bit of a downturn from what he was doing

1:45:58.760 --> 1:46:01.759
<v Speaker 3>last year, but he does still have sixteen home runs

1:46:01.760 --> 1:46:03.479
<v Speaker 3>this year. I saw a note he would be leading

1:46:03.520 --> 1:46:07.000
<v Speaker 3>the Marl or the Guardian lineup here in terms of

1:46:07.000 --> 1:46:10.080
<v Speaker 3>home runs, and Joe Adell is a very, very athletic

1:46:10.240 --> 1:46:12.479
<v Speaker 3>dude that just adds an element of pop to this

1:46:12.520 --> 1:46:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Guardian lineup. I thought Chris Antonetti and the Guardians did

1:46:16.400 --> 1:46:19.160
<v Speaker 3>a pretty good job here today at this deadline.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the only thing about Joe Adell is that he's

1:46:23.400 --> 1:46:26.360
<v Speaker 4>the most anti Guardians player I've ever seen. Is he

1:46:26.439 --> 1:46:30.840
<v Speaker 4>not like a guy who has nice play discipline, takes

1:46:30.880 --> 1:46:35.520
<v Speaker 4>good abs, does a job, you know, normally pretty good defensively.

1:46:35.520 --> 1:46:37.360
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like Joe Adell is kind of just

1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:39.760
<v Speaker 4>built on his tools. There's a lot of swing and

1:46:39.760 --> 1:46:42.679
<v Speaker 4>miss in his game. He's walking only three point five

1:46:42.720 --> 1:46:45.000
<v Speaker 4>percent of the time. That might be the lowest in

1:46:45.040 --> 1:46:47.439
<v Speaker 4>all of Major League Baseball. But at the same time,

1:46:48.080 --> 1:46:50.760
<v Speaker 4>haven't we kind of been waiting for the Guardians to

1:46:50.920 --> 1:46:53.880
<v Speaker 4>take a swing on a player like Joe Adell with

1:46:53.960 --> 1:46:56.120
<v Speaker 4>a ton of tools and maybe they could teach him

1:46:56.160 --> 1:46:59.400
<v Speaker 4>the guard Ball way. Imagine the Joe Adell tools combined

1:46:59.439 --> 1:47:02.479
<v Speaker 4>with guarda that could be a Hall of Famer. Obviously

1:47:02.520 --> 1:47:05.880
<v Speaker 4>it's going a little bit too far, but I when

1:47:05.920 --> 1:47:08.640
<v Speaker 4>it first came in, I was like, what, that's the

1:47:08.720 --> 1:47:11.880
<v Speaker 4>least Guardians player I could have imagined, which almost makes

1:47:11.880 --> 1:47:13.880
<v Speaker 4>it a Guardian's move. At the same time, do you

1:47:13.920 --> 1:47:15.880
<v Speaker 4>understand the Galaxy brain I'm going through your arm?

1:47:16.240 --> 1:47:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think there's an even more surface level, straightforward explanation,

1:47:19.920 --> 1:47:23.240
<v Speaker 1>which is threeho three three thirty eight, five seventy one

1:47:23.280 --> 1:47:24.599
<v Speaker 1>against left handed pitching for.

1:47:24.560 --> 1:47:28.720
<v Speaker 2>A nine to ten ops. And that's the Guardians sorely,

1:47:28.840 --> 1:47:29.799
<v Speaker 2>sorely needed.

1:47:30.080 --> 1:47:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I also do to your point on that, though, Peter,

1:47:32.920 --> 1:47:35.439
<v Speaker 1>they have been trying to buck the typical trend, like

1:47:35.439 --> 1:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>they went Super Power with Heavy on some of the

1:47:38.280 --> 1:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>last drafts.

1:47:39.760 --> 1:47:42.040
<v Speaker 2>They they probably want to balance things out.

1:47:42.120 --> 1:47:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But you bring in a Dell, which, by the way,

1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and I know we already talked about better process now

1:47:46.320 --> 1:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>for the interest they should have traded them last year.

1:47:47.800 --> 1:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Imagine how much more they would have got.

1:47:49.280 --> 1:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>But you bring in a guy that can absolutely demolish

1:47:52.240 --> 1:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the short side the platoon for you here, and I

1:47:54.680 --> 1:47:57.080
<v Speaker 1>think that's extremely valuable for the Guards, and you get

1:47:57.160 --> 1:48:00.519
<v Speaker 1>another year of control after this one. So I think

1:48:00.560 --> 1:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>with how good he's been against left handed pitching, Joe

1:48:03.200 --> 1:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>is ten homers and one hundred and thirty plate appearances

1:48:05.880 --> 1:48:08.360
<v Speaker 1>against left he's compared to six homers and three hundred

1:48:08.360 --> 1:48:12.360
<v Speaker 1>and twenty six played appearances against righty's. It's a stark,

1:48:12.479 --> 1:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>stark difference. But yeah, if he could hone it on

1:48:15.000 --> 1:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the play discipline, of course, that would that would help

1:48:16.720 --> 1:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>him make a difference. Cozar going the other way, like

1:48:19.320 --> 1:48:21.960
<v Speaker 1>some catching depth in the organization, high probability big leaguer,

1:48:22.360 --> 1:48:24.479
<v Speaker 1>with how the glove has continued to come along, took

1:48:24.520 --> 1:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a step forward with the bat as well.

1:48:26.960 --> 1:48:29.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anything super crazy to me.

1:48:29.600 --> 1:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of in between that backup catcher and starting

1:48:33.120 --> 1:48:35.439
<v Speaker 1>catcher mold so it's kind of like a second division dealer.

1:48:35.600 --> 1:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>But those guys are still i mean, high probability, filling

1:48:37.960 --> 1:48:41.600
<v Speaker 1>a role, not a bad get in return for the Angels.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I am curious to see how they kind of

1:48:45.280 --> 1:48:48.400
<v Speaker 3>handle the catching situation moving forward, and I guess Pat

1:48:48.439 --> 1:48:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Bailey's the answer here, and Hedges has been way better.

1:48:50.880 --> 1:48:53.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know, trading bow Naylor and that Yoho and

1:48:54.000 --> 1:48:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Blake Perkins deal and then also trading catching Prospect and

1:48:58.880 --> 1:49:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Cozart as well. I'm curious if they're pushing all the

1:49:01.920 --> 1:49:07.120
<v Speaker 3>chips in sorry on uh yeah, thank you. I'm curious

1:49:07.120 --> 1:49:09.439
<v Speaker 3>if they are pushing all the chips in on Patrick

1:49:09.479 --> 1:49:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Bailey being kind of their everyday catcher moving forward, because

1:49:12.200 --> 1:49:14.479
<v Speaker 3>hedges he's probably going to hang it up at some

1:49:14.479 --> 1:49:15.720
<v Speaker 3>point soon, you would have to think.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I think he's just hitting his prime.

1:49:17.880 --> 1:49:20.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's raking offensively. He's hitting his prime. But he's

1:49:20.479 --> 1:49:22.120
<v Speaker 3>got to be a DH and is good enough to

1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:23.840
<v Speaker 3>be a DH.

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<v Speaker 4>Before before we move on to the next trade, I

1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:27.400
<v Speaker 4>want to shout out this comment. Thank you so much

1:49:27.400 --> 1:49:30.599
<v Speaker 4>for the donation from or Force zero zero just getting

1:49:30.640 --> 1:49:32.839
<v Speaker 4>off work, excited to catch up on all the trades

1:49:33.120 --> 1:49:36.320
<v Speaker 4>and hear all the discussion. You guys rock. Thank you

1:49:36.560 --> 1:49:40.040
<v Speaker 4>so much for that incredibly nice donation and for the comment,

1:49:40.120 --> 1:49:42.400
<v Speaker 4>and again thank you to everybody joining us here live

1:49:42.439 --> 1:49:45.400
<v Speaker 4>on YouTube. We're going to go for probably about ten

1:49:45.439 --> 1:49:47.680
<v Speaker 4>more minutes cover the rest of the trades, and then

1:49:47.720 --> 1:49:50.280
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1:49:50.439 --> 1:49:52.280
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1:49:52.320 --> 1:49:55.320
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1:50:04.800 --> 1:50:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Last trade that we want to bring up here, and

1:50:06.880 --> 1:50:09.760
<v Speaker 3>then I think our next episode that we should do

1:50:10.000 --> 1:50:12.400
<v Speaker 3>on the Just Baseball Show is Deadline Winners, and then

1:50:12.400 --> 1:50:14.719
<v Speaker 3>the next one after that would probably be Deadline Losers.

1:50:15.680 --> 1:50:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Just kind of let the cake bake a little bit longer.

1:50:19.640 --> 1:50:23.479
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but we do have one more trade, and

1:50:23.560 --> 1:50:26.080
<v Speaker 3>the Cubs go and acquire a back end reliever that

1:50:26.120 --> 1:50:29.080
<v Speaker 3>has been a strikeout machine as of late. Ryan Zephyrjon

1:50:29.560 --> 1:50:33.400
<v Speaker 3>goes from the Angels to the Cubs. Moyses Biasteros, how

1:50:33.400 --> 1:50:35.840
<v Speaker 3>about this fall from grace? Bias Steros goes from the

1:50:35.840 --> 1:50:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Cubs to the Angels along with Mason maguire for Ryan

1:50:38.760 --> 1:50:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Zephyr John a guy who is walking the world, mind you,

1:50:42.200 --> 1:50:46.439
<v Speaker 3>But Moe Baller has seen his value evaporate, it seems

1:50:46.520 --> 1:50:48.800
<v Speaker 3>over the last three hundred and sixty five days. And

1:50:48.880 --> 1:50:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Bias Steraros had himself a heck of a start to

1:50:51.120 --> 1:50:53.599
<v Speaker 3>this season as well. He was looking like a masher.

1:50:53.680 --> 1:50:57.559
<v Speaker 3>Are them? What happened to bias Steros's value?

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<v Speaker 1>So this was an argument I've had so many times

1:51:00.880 --> 1:51:02.200
<v Speaker 1>with the Cubs fans when we were a little bit

1:51:02.280 --> 1:51:04.519
<v Speaker 1>later to put him into the top one hundred. And

1:51:04.920 --> 1:51:07.519
<v Speaker 1>this is the risk, This is the conundrum of the

1:51:08.120 --> 1:51:12.880
<v Speaker 1>that first short catcher that is not very good defensively

1:51:12.960 --> 1:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and I thought it was like a forty great at

1:51:15.120 --> 1:51:18.680
<v Speaker 1>best defensively. Is if Bias Saros does not rake like

1:51:18.800 --> 1:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>absolutely rake or make a mega leap defensively, there's not

1:51:22.680 --> 1:51:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fallback options here. And that's always always

1:51:24.920 --> 1:51:28.720
<v Speaker 1>looking at with prospects. It's like you have the high

1:51:28.800 --> 1:51:31.280
<v Speaker 1>end outcome, but like, what's the secondary outcome or the

1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:33.320
<v Speaker 1>tertiary outcome. It still could be a big league role

1:51:33.360 --> 1:51:37.240
<v Speaker 1>for Biasteros, it was kind of above average big league

1:51:37.280 --> 1:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>bat or nothing. And with him like and it's hit

1:51:40.840 --> 1:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>over power, there's a lot of pressure in different ways.

1:51:42.960 --> 1:51:44.599
<v Speaker 1>And once it became more clear that he just wasn't

1:51:44.600 --> 1:51:47.639
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to provide I think even serviceable defense.

1:51:48.479 --> 1:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>He's too short to play first. So now you have

1:51:50.880 --> 1:51:53.599
<v Speaker 1>a DH. If you're a DH, you've got to put

1:51:53.640 --> 1:51:55.840
<v Speaker 1>up a one thirty WRC plus or it ain't gonna

1:51:55.840 --> 1:51:58.320
<v Speaker 1>be worth it, or you've got to be catching once

1:51:58.400 --> 1:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>or twice a week and being there, and I think

1:52:01.080 --> 1:52:03.439
<v Speaker 1>that was the problem. What I can't answer is what

1:52:03.479 --> 1:52:06.679
<v Speaker 1>has gone on with Biasteros this year, Where a guy

1:52:06.720 --> 1:52:08.679
<v Speaker 1>that is one of the more hitterish players I've seen

1:52:08.720 --> 1:52:10.320
<v Speaker 1>in a long time, and why he was still you know,

1:52:10.320 --> 1:52:12.400
<v Speaker 1>that borderline top one hundred and eventually top one hundred

1:52:12.439 --> 1:52:15.960
<v Speaker 1>guy has just lost his power. His game power has

1:52:16.000 --> 1:52:18.519
<v Speaker 1>just been gone six seventy seven oh ps. I think

1:52:18.520 --> 1:52:20.960
<v Speaker 1>this year he's just blatantly struggling. I don't know if

1:52:20.960 --> 1:52:23.760
<v Speaker 1>there's something going on health wise or whatever, but I

1:52:23.800 --> 1:52:27.559
<v Speaker 1>haven't really seen a hitter of that ability regress to

1:52:27.600 --> 1:52:28.679
<v Speaker 1>the degree that he has.

1:52:28.880 --> 1:52:30.840
<v Speaker 2>That said, in a relief deal.

1:52:31.160 --> 1:52:33.760
<v Speaker 1>When the Angels are in the business of adding just

1:52:33.840 --> 1:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>any big leager as they can, I still think this is.

1:52:35.920 --> 1:52:37.640
<v Speaker 2>A big league bat Biasteros.

1:52:37.880 --> 1:52:40.559
<v Speaker 1>And whether it's a vogel Bach type of bat or

1:52:40.800 --> 1:52:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, a guy that can actually be an above average,

1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, dh offensive piece that can maybe catch once

1:52:47.000 --> 1:52:49.320
<v Speaker 1>or twice a week is to be determined. But for

1:52:49.439 --> 1:52:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a reliever, I think it's a good shot to take.

1:52:51.360 --> 1:52:53.240
<v Speaker 1>For still a twenty two year old guy who's Kobe

1:52:53.360 --> 1:52:53.679
<v Speaker 1>just had.

1:52:53.560 --> 1:52:54.240
<v Speaker 2>A lost season.

1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we've got a couple of comments here that are

1:52:58.240 --> 1:53:01.599
<v Speaker 3>asking for certain ross turns that we didn't really get

1:53:01.640 --> 1:53:04.400
<v Speaker 3>to dive into here. First one is Jeff Hoffman that

1:53:04.439 --> 1:53:06.040
<v Speaker 3>we want to get into and thank you very much

1:53:06.040 --> 1:53:09.760
<v Speaker 3>for the donation as well Jeff Hoffman. Again, he goes

1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:13.679
<v Speaker 3>from Toronto to Minnesota and the return from Jeff Hoffman

1:53:14.080 --> 1:53:16.559
<v Speaker 3>or the return from Minnesota to Toronto for Jeff Hoffman

1:53:16.920 --> 1:53:19.960
<v Speaker 3>left handed Dason Hill, right hander John Klein, and a

1:53:20.040 --> 1:53:22.439
<v Speaker 3>Maori Pania as well.

1:53:22.600 --> 1:53:23.960
<v Speaker 2>So is Dason Hill.

1:53:24.040 --> 1:53:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Who else John Klein and Damari Panya. Dason Hill is

1:53:31.000 --> 1:53:33.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of crazy, yeah, real.

1:53:33.240 --> 1:53:36.479
<v Speaker 4>Quick, though, Jeff Hoffman has been one of the best

1:53:36.479 --> 1:53:39.040
<v Speaker 4>relievers in baseball ever since he was one of the

1:53:39.040 --> 1:53:42.639
<v Speaker 4>worst relievers in baseball. We remember, excuse me, Jeff Hoffman

1:53:42.680 --> 1:53:45.040
<v Speaker 4>started off the season really poor yet an Era at

1:53:45.080 --> 1:53:48.439
<v Speaker 4>five and Blue Jays fans were just so sick of them,

1:53:48.880 --> 1:53:51.519
<v Speaker 4>and then really, from June on, this guy has been

1:53:51.760 --> 1:53:54.760
<v Speaker 4>otherworldly dominant. I just saw the other day that he

1:53:54.840 --> 1:53:57.919
<v Speaker 4>gave up his first earned run over his last fifteen

1:53:58.040 --> 1:54:02.120
<v Speaker 4>or so appearances on the So while I'm interested to

1:54:02.160 --> 1:54:05.599
<v Speaker 4>hear about the package, Jeff Hoffman is a great get

1:54:05.640 --> 1:54:08.639
<v Speaker 4>for the Twins when their biggest need is bullpen help,

1:54:08.640 --> 1:54:09.679
<v Speaker 4>and this is a great ad.

1:54:10.439 --> 1:54:13.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean the stuff and the ceiling and

1:54:13.560 --> 1:54:16.639
<v Speaker 1>the impact that he can have is huge and for team,

1:54:16.680 --> 1:54:18.120
<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned, sorely needed it.

1:54:18.360 --> 1:54:21.559
<v Speaker 2>But Hill is a guy that upsidewise excited.

1:54:21.760 --> 1:54:23.599
<v Speaker 1>They're just kind of surprised to see moved and excited

1:54:23.640 --> 1:54:28.320
<v Speaker 1>because Johnny King really fun, stuffy, left handed pitching prospect

1:54:28.320 --> 1:54:30.640
<v Speaker 1>that is awesome in the j system, and Hill is

1:54:30.960 --> 1:54:33.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of in the same breath. King has made more

1:54:33.280 --> 1:54:37.160
<v Speaker 1>progress to throw more strikes and I'm excited to see

1:54:37.160 --> 1:54:39.880
<v Speaker 1>if Hill can now do that in the Jays organization

1:54:40.040 --> 1:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>as well, because we're talking about a six foot five, long,

1:54:43.600 --> 1:54:48.040
<v Speaker 1>lanky like slender lefty that averages ninety six with the

1:54:48.080 --> 1:54:51.800
<v Speaker 1>fastball and then has a trio breaking ball is working

1:54:51.840 --> 1:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>off of it a change up as well. The stuff,

1:54:53.600 --> 1:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean it is big league middle rotation stuff. It's

1:54:58.000 --> 1:55:00.960
<v Speaker 1>just been a real challenge for him to throw strikes

1:55:00.960 --> 1:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>and you can walk up to like six per nine.

1:55:03.120 --> 1:55:05.440
<v Speaker 1>So if Hill at twenty years old, can find a

1:55:05.480 --> 1:55:08.240
<v Speaker 1>little bit more consistency, I mean, the ceiling is sky high.

1:55:08.480 --> 1:55:10.760
<v Speaker 2>You have the fallback though with Hill of a leverage

1:55:10.920 --> 1:55:12.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, left handed relief arm.

1:55:12.280 --> 1:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>But when you've got the trio of breaking balls, a

1:55:15.120 --> 1:55:17.320
<v Speaker 1>four seemer and a change up from a six to

1:55:17.400 --> 1:55:19.320
<v Speaker 1>five lefty, I'm going to give this guy as much

1:55:19.360 --> 1:55:22.040
<v Speaker 1>runway to try to start as possible, huge high ceiling,

1:55:22.120 --> 1:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, piece to be able to add cope.

1:55:25.680 --> 1:55:30.080
<v Speaker 3>I dig it, all right, I think we're good on these.

1:55:30.120 --> 1:55:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh the other return that we were asked about was

1:55:33.040 --> 1:55:36.320
<v Speaker 3>possibly touching on the Lars Neotbar return. Did you see

1:55:36.360 --> 1:55:37.280
<v Speaker 3>who newt bar?

1:55:37.680 --> 1:55:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1:55:37.880 --> 1:55:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Daniel Egan was one of the

1:55:40.560 --> 1:55:41.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the players moved.

1:55:41.560 --> 1:55:43.200
<v Speaker 2>There is he really?

1:55:43.400 --> 1:55:45.280
<v Speaker 3>And Egan of Severance?

1:55:46.920 --> 1:55:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I miss Severance? Great show, correct, I heard?

1:55:50.520 --> 1:55:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I think Ben Stiller they're filming again. I can't wait.

1:55:52.880 --> 1:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>That is Yeah, Thank goodness. That's one of those that

1:55:54.440 --> 1:55:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually I count the days for.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:55:57.000 --> 1:55:58.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Egan's one of those. We got to ignore the

1:55:58.720 --> 1:55:59.800
<v Speaker 2>surface level numbers.

1:55:59.560 --> 1:56:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Because he has thrown Amarillo, which is the PCL essentially,

1:56:02.520 --> 1:56:04.520
<v Speaker 1>even though it's double A, it's like the same drill.

1:56:04.600 --> 1:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>There high probability back into the rotation type of starter six'

1:56:08.680 --> 1:56:12.880
<v Speaker 1>four two and ten, pounds sturdy build like fastball is

1:56:13.520 --> 1:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of the concern there where it's very,

1:56:15.840 --> 1:56:20.040
<v Speaker 1>stock BUT i love all the. Secondaries you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>cutter to, bridge a gyro, slider and then a downer

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<v Speaker 1>curveball off of. That he can really spin the, baseball

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<v Speaker 1>and he still continues with a change up here and.

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<v Speaker 1>There BUT i love the trio OF i guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>two breaking balls and the cutter off of it THAT

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<v Speaker 1>i think gives him a great chance to be a

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<v Speaker 1>back end of the rotation type of innings.

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<v Speaker 2>Eater SO i thought that wasn't a bad. Get just

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<v Speaker 2>get him off.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the moon, there AND i think the numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot better in The cardinals. System

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<v Speaker 1>so not bad For, newbaar who at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day like it hasn't been great. OFFENSE i love

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<v Speaker 1>the get for The dbacks to just upgrade that, offense

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<v Speaker 1>but you aren't going to get a crazy haul for.

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<v Speaker 3>Him let's tie a bo on this program here by

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<v Speaker 3>naming our knee jerk winners and losers at this. Deadline,

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<v Speaker 3>here give me one trade deadline winner and one trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 3>Loser but before we give you, that we do want

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<v Speaker 3>It i'll settle for sixth. Anonymous that was. Me peyton

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<v Speaker 3>flashed that schoobl quote Because Tarrek scooble did just meet

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<v Speaker 3>WITH la media for the first. Time trek School bol says,

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<v Speaker 3>quote every team could trade for. ME i don't sympathize

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<v Speaker 3>with people that blame The dodgers for anything they've. Done

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<v Speaker 3>it's a winning. ORG i really don't sympathize with people

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<v Speaker 3>that are complaining because The dodgers do all the right.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicely, YEAH i think it's saying the lines for.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure and, ALSO i mean those are like THE mlbpa lines, too,

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<v Speaker 1>Right it's always gonna be everyone can do what The dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>do do what The dodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>Do SO i get. It but that is an interesting. Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Comfortable it's definitely not gonna upset everybody else at.

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<v Speaker 3>All, yeah arm late and give me one knee jerk

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<v Speaker 3>winner and one knee jerk. Loser and, again our next

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<v Speaker 3>Two Just baseball shows are going to be about trade

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<v Speaker 3>deadline winners and.

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<v Speaker 1>Losers, honestly just the prospect heading me is still so

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with The Alexander friez And Josiah ragsdale in Their

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<v Speaker 1>division trade there For hein And, BLOOM i just get.

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<v Speaker 2>PAST i can't get past that. One in terms of.

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<v Speaker 1>The trade in a, VACUUM i still think that is

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite, trade as crazy as that. Sounds but like

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<v Speaker 1>knee jerk, WINNER i feel really good about what The cubs.

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<v Speaker 1>DID i feel we've been asking The cubs to do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and they kind of volume shot this thing

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<v Speaker 1>and it did a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot SO i am really happy with how.

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<v Speaker 1>Much The cubs, have like how much The cubs did

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<v Speaker 1>to bolster in several different areas to make their team better.

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<v Speaker 2>HERE i think it's hard not to be excited about.

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<v Speaker 4>That Cool, peter he did a. Winner i'll do a,

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<v Speaker 4>loser a team we haven't talked about at, all WHICH

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<v Speaker 4>i think is why they're a. Loser The rangers whole

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<v Speaker 4>deadline and confused. Me, yeah because, originally like three days,

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<v Speaker 4>ago before This astro, series they were leading the division

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<v Speaker 4>and it seemed like they were going to. Buy AND

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<v Speaker 4>i even came on the show AND i, said The

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<v Speaker 4>rangers are typically aggressive during this type of. Period it's

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<v Speaker 4>like don't sleep on. Them don't sleep on The. Rangers

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<v Speaker 4>and then they get belt to ass from The astros

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<v Speaker 4>and then it starts coming out that they might sell

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<v Speaker 4>or they might can you guys still hear? ME i

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<v Speaker 4>know my? Okay so you can sell him?

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<v Speaker 3>Her, yeah mean you got the bubble thumbs up and you,

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<v Speaker 3>froze but just keep.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking but it's exactly what The rangers did at the.

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<v Speaker 4>Deadline they froze because they came out and, said we're

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<v Speaker 4>actually going to start listening on other like on A

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<v Speaker 4>jacob De gram on somebody. ELSE i don't know why it's,

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<v Speaker 4>frozen BUT i want to stay on this point BECAUSE

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<v Speaker 4>i think it's. IMPORTANT i don't understand why The rangers

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<v Speaker 4>kind of wanted to sell and they were, listening then

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<v Speaker 4>didn't actually sell anyone outside Of Josh, smith and then

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<v Speaker 4>didn't buy, either and they just stood pat for a

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<v Speaker 4>team that could have used an injection of life. Here

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<v Speaker 4>and this is again the Return Josh, Smith Josh Stephen Adam.

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<v Speaker 4>MACO i, mean that's a pretty lame. Deadline and of

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<v Speaker 4>course maybe my computer took all that it could AND

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<v Speaker 4>i froze out. TOO i don't know, why but, yeah

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<v Speaker 4>not a great deadline for The rangers at.

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<v Speaker 3>ALL i will send us out on a happy. Note

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<v Speaker 3>i've got two winners THAT i want to highlight. Here

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<v Speaker 3>number one is The White. SOX i think The White

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<v Speaker 3>sox got better in three. Phases going to Get Louis

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<v Speaker 3>castillo was pretty. Fun going to Get Wascar brazobon was pretty,

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<v Speaker 3>fun and then as, well going to Get Brenton doyle

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<v Speaker 3>is an interesting lottery. Ticket But castillo a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>you guys hit on obviously On sunday. Night, CASTILLO i

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to say is a sleeping giant because he's

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<v Speaker 3>not The Louis castill that he was two three years.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago but this, guy year in and year, out has

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<v Speaker 3>been one of the more consistent starting pitchers in, baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly And castillo getting out of The Sir Anthony dominguez,

2:02:05.200 --> 2:02:08.920
<v Speaker 3>contract That dominguez deal doesn't look that good. Anymore and

2:02:08.960 --> 2:02:11.200
<v Speaker 3>then also going to Get Boston, smith who was very

2:02:11.200 --> 2:02:14.280
<v Speaker 3>impressive in the minor. Leagues you know it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of a steep price to pay For. Seattle

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<v Speaker 3>but at the end of the, day Thought Luis castile

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<v Speaker 3>was a good pickup for The White sox along With

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<v Speaker 3>brazabon along With doyle and then the other. One the

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<v Speaker 3>pirates needed to effectively build a bullpen from. Scratch and

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<v Speaker 3>the pirates built a bullpen from, scratch and they go

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<v Speaker 3>and Get, dovall they go and Get, weaver they go

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<v Speaker 3>and Get boker And i'm missing one, More Kirby. Yates

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<v Speaker 3>that's a hell of a build a bullpen from scratch.

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<v Speaker 4>Job in one.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally so that's what we, got. Folks, again thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much for joining OUR mlb trade deadline stream presented

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<v Speaker 3>by Goat. Lab huge congrats to our winner and uh

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<v Speaker 3>we will do winners and losers here coming up over

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<v Speaker 3>the next few. Days good playing a content on The

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<v Speaker 3>deadline and there's no other way we'd have, it so

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<v Speaker 3>really appreciate all of it either a, YouTube any final,

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<v Speaker 3>Thoughts he was thinking To Peyton genus as, Well, peyton

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<v Speaker 3>you superstar as always, BEAST.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just about to. SPACE i was just about

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<v Speaker 4>to say special shout out To. Peyton he was saying

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<v Speaker 4>that he was loading up so many things at Street

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<v Speaker 4>yard he ran out of. Room did such a good

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<v Speaker 4>job producing the, show and special shout out to the,

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<v Speaker 4>audience like this was. Awesome this was such a fun

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<v Speaker 4>deadline AND i hope you enjoyed because you guys heard

2:03:40.880 --> 2:03:44.360
<v Speaker 4>those rumors we might not get a great. Deadline we

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<v Speaker 4>got a great. DEADLINE i, mean there was some massive trades,

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<v Speaker 4>made there was some smaller trades, made there was some

2:03:50.480 --> 2:03:55.320
<v Speaker 4>interesting prospect. Returns we got it all, here and that's

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<v Speaker 4>all we. Wanted that's all we wanted was a great,

2:03:57.520 --> 2:04:00.000
<v Speaker 4>deadline AND i feel like we got it so. All

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<v Speaker 4>i'll lead us out For Jackie bowling for Arm late

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<v Speaker 4>and we'll be back. Tomorrow we will be Back, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 4>thursday And friday again one thirty Pm eastern here live on.

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