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Speaker 2: I am six forty.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: John's back next week, and it's kind of cool. I

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Speaker 3: read this book from a guy who I have a

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Speaker 3: lot of respect for as a performer, as a thinker,

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Speaker 3: as an activist, and his books about his life, and

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Speaker 3: his life is one of those lives that you want

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Speaker 3: to read about if you are at all interested in

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Speaker 3: what it's like to grow up in Hollywood. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Ed Begley Junior is the son of Ed Begley's an

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Speaker 3: Academy Award winning actor, and to have been in his

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Speaker 3: house growing up with the people who were swimming through

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Speaker 3: that life had to be something. And now you can

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Speaker 3: read about that, and then how Ed's life evolved from

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Speaker 3: that house is remarkable as well.

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Speaker 2: How about it for Ed Begley Junior? How are you, Ed?

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Speaker 4: Mark? So good to talk to you, my friend.

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Speaker 3: The new book is To the Temple of Tranquility and

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Speaker 3: step on it. Tell everybody why it's called that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you can't rush tranquility. You can't rush serenity. As

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Speaker 4: it turns out, I tried to find serenity in the

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Speaker 4: bottle of philipschnaia and it doesn't work that way. You

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Speaker 4: can get it for a minute or two, but it

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Speaker 4: doesn't last, and you pay a big price for it.

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Speaker 4: So and I rush to everything. I rushed through everything

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Speaker 4: I was doing in my young life, and finally I

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Speaker 4: learned to be present and I read a bit of Alan.

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Speaker 4: Wats have you ever heard of the writer Alan?

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Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, what.

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Speaker 4: A great thinker, what a great philosopher. And he really

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Speaker 4: got through to me that this is it. He wrote

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Speaker 4: a book called that very line, this is it, and

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Speaker 4: he wasn't kidding. This is at this moment right now

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Speaker 4: with you, Mark, that we're experiencing right this second, right now.

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Speaker 4: That's all there is. The past happened, of course, and

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Speaker 4: you plan for the future, but what's really happening is

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Speaker 4: right now on the radio with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is interesting, Ed, because I don't want people

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Speaker 3: to think, I mean, I'm not here to show your

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Speaker 3: book particularly, but I also want people to appreciate the

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Speaker 3: fact that you tell storyes in the book.

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Speaker 2: This isn't a book like a how to book.

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Speaker 3: You can reach this conclusion that we've just sort of

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Speaker 3: touched on, and you do. But the book takes me

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Speaker 3: and all I care about is these great Hollywood stories

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Speaker 3: through this life of a kid who grew up the son.

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Speaker 3: As I was saying of this Academy Award winning actor

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Speaker 3: your problem drinking.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you were this massive drinker.

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Speaker 4: And all of that, all the tragedy and all the pitfalls,

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Speaker 4: it's all quite funny. It's a humorous work, I hope not.

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Speaker 4: I hope. I know all my friends have found it

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Speaker 4: So it's a humorous work. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: laughs in recovery. There's a lot of laughs in tragedy.

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Speaker 4: Even you must laugh at it before you try to

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Speaker 4: I hope there's more to come.

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Speaker 3: Well, the people who you regularly are sort of in

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Speaker 3: the stream of Hollywood at the time, it's every It's

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Speaker 3: it's Marlon Brando, it's it's it's the Christopher Guest, it's

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Speaker 3: in those the Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman show, these Norman

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you mentioned Norman because he died just a

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Speaker 4: He gave me so much great work on maud On

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Speaker 4: Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. He even gave me work as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that you talk about the fact that, uh, and

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Speaker 2: To start him. You had to work.

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Speaker 4: And that was my problem because I had the wrong attitude.

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Speaker 4: For years. I had this wake me when I'm famous attitude.

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Speaker 4: My dad made it look so easy, Mark, I thought

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Speaker 4: study with people like Peggy Fury and the Strasburg Institute

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Speaker 3: That's okay, That's okay, And and you know, I remember

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Speaker 3: and tell me the exact stories. It's been a while

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Speaker 4: I did. The problem was I finally got relaxed on

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Speaker 4: Uh sorry about that?

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a key moment in the book

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Speaker 3: It was exactly it cut through, you know, and then

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Speaker 3: so but but your battle with alcohol continued, and I

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Speaker 4: It started when I was fifteen and a half and

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Speaker 4: Quite accurately, I found out it wasn't a woman I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's amazing, and you know, we're

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Speaker 3: in your book about you know, about your mother, and then,

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Speaker 3: informed by this alcohol. Ed Bigley Junior is our guest

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Speaker 3: on The John Cobelt Show and his new book is

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Speaker 3: To the Temple of Tranquility and Step on It and

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Speaker 3: you really can't almost do a needle drop on this book.

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Speaker 3: It's remarkable the people that Ed has worked with and

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Speaker 3: Mark Thompson here on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 3: Mark Thompson sitting and we're talking to Ed Begley Junior,

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Speaker 3: the brilliant actor has a new book books called to

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Speaker 3: the Temple of Tranquility and step on it and it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's funny, and it's poignant, and there's some

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Speaker 3: at Begley Junior and you know you're you're in better

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Speaker 4: Well, Chris and I were friends since the seventies. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. I didn't realize this too. Also, to

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Speaker 2: This is early in your life.

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Speaker 4: But I had a taste for me on stage with comedy.

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Speaker 4: I went, you know, I'll try to stand up, you know, alone.

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Speaker 3: Life of Ed Begley Junior is so interesting because of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love how unvarnished you are of looking back

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Speaker 4: If you're seeing a lot of my films, much to

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Speaker 4: Begley Son, I thought, don't compare me to him. I'm

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Speaker 4: got something to talk about. I work with your dad

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Speaker 3: look forward to getting on my other show, Mark Thompson Show,

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Speaker 4: Anytime, Mark, It's always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, Ed Begley Junior. Everybody really cool stuff.

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Speaker 3: There is major change coming in the next year in

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Speaker 3: some ways laws that will be in effect first of

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Speaker 3: the year, among them, what a cop can no longer

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Speaker 3: That as we continue, John co Belt returns next week.

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Speaker 3: Mark Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty live

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Speaker 3: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 3: Anybody here going to any kind of Rose parade or

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Speaker 2: No? On the show, nobody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's learned their lesson from prior endeavors along those lines.

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Speaker 3: I do. Like just last night, we're watching that Nicholas

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Johanna got me a bottle of mescato or the

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Speaker 3: Well, California cops will no longer be able to ask

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Speaker 3: Like you who's going to be the guy to tell

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Speaker 3: that you not pointed out to him or her. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You have never heard so many yes sirs and yes

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Speaker 3: and then I hear, you know, pull.

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Speaker 2: Over the excerpt.

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Speaker 3: So I pulled over, and now he's coming to the window,

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Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, this guy's got to be so annoyed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he sounded annoyed in that amplified crap that

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Speaker 3: I just heard. And all I want to do is cooperate,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't want any trouble. Guy comes up

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Speaker 3: and so I start. He didn't have to say anything.

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Speaker 3: I start with, I'm so sorry I couldn't understand you

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Speaker 3: back there that I rolled down the window, and I

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Speaker 3: still couldn't understand you, and he was like, sir, relax,

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Speaker 3: everything's fine, I just need your license of registration. And

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Speaker 3: you know I pulled you over. I guess I was

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Speaker 3: going eighty five is what he told me. So you

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Speaker 3: know that's too fast, Deborah. I don't like it to

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Speaker 3: go eighty five, So.

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Speaker 6: I would never do that.

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Speaker 3: It was not Yeah, in that red rocket ship that

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Speaker 3: you drive, you can do that in first gear in

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Speaker 3: that car.

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Speaker 2: So but it alls well, that ends well.

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Speaker 3: But it was a bizarre interchange because I just felt,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, this guy is you know, I'm driving

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Speaker 3: this guy crazy because I can't understand what he's saying.

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Speaker 7: I have to ask you a quick question. Did you

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Speaker 7: ever try to get out of it when you've been

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Speaker 7: pulled over?

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Speaker 2: Do you know who I am?

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Speaker 6: I'm Mark Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that I've never tried to get out

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Speaker 3: of it. But when I start speaking a lot of

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Speaker 3: the time, and I've done a lot of cop shows,

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Speaker 3: you know, I've done the world's scarious police chases, world

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Speaker 3: scarious police shootouts. I've done most shocking, most daring. There

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Speaker 3: was a most Shocking marathon on on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 2: On one of the you know, you know those whatever reality.

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Speaker 3: TV channels, so they recognize the voice sometimes and then

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Speaker 3: they go, wait a minute, and that's that can help me? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course, But I'll tell you what's that air. I

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Speaker 3: was gonna say, there was a recent marathon. Yeah, did

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Speaker 3: you take off of that royalty check man I got.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a buy out, So I don't

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Speaker 3: think I get any money. I know it sucks, but

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Speaker 3: at the time, you go, yeah, just give me the buyout.

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Speaker 3: I don't carey. Then later, you know, ten years later,

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Speaker 3: you're going, damn, I don't get any of that. I

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Speaker 3: saw them running that Most Shocking show. I think it

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Speaker 3: was the top twenty. Most Shocking is the actual name

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Speaker 3: of the show, but they cut it up, carve it up,

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Speaker 3: and then I saw it running overseas like it. It's

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Speaker 3: got a whole international imprint that I don't get paid for.

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Speaker 3: So you know, there's a lot of stuff, you know, but.

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Speaker 6: You do get a lot of residuals from other things.

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Speaker 3: Well, the residual checks are going away, as you know.

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Speaker 2: Because streaming it's a sad state.

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Speaker 6: Don't say that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you're you're the one who's still working getting the

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Speaker 3: first run stuff, Debora Marks and a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not as much as you, mister Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you. We could continue this all afternoon, but

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Speaker 3: it is the John Cobalt Show. Mark Thompson here sitting

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Speaker 3: in on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 5: six forty.

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Speaker 3: Mark Thompson sitting in for John. I was just going

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Speaker 3: over various things that are going to be happening in

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Speaker 3: the new year. It's something that is really overdue. Is

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Speaker 3: this AB thirteen ninety nine that was passed. It's a

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Speaker 3: new law that will allow vets, veterinarians I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: veterinarians to do virtual assessments of pets. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: crazy that you've got to drag your animal in to

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Speaker 3: these various veterinary offices and oftentimes is a long wait.

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Speaker 3: Why can't you do what we've been doing now with

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Speaker 3: telemedicine for a while. So this bill was authored by

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Speaker 3: assembly Members Laura Friedman from Burbank and Josh Lowenthal from

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Speaker 3: Long Beach, and it passed right through Sacramento bipartisan support.

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Speaker 3: They're both Democrats, by the way, but it passed right

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Speaker 3: through with bipartisans report. Republicans Democrats are both supporting it

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Speaker 3: and it passed earlier this year. So right now vets

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Speaker 3: have to physically examine a pet patient before prescribing medications

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Speaker 3: or recommending treatments.

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Speaker 2: But now.

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Speaker 3: There doesn't have to be an in person prerequisite for

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Speaker 3: treatment and for medications, so the same standard of CAROL

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Speaker 3: applied to both virtual and in person veterinary services. There

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Speaker 3: are some limitations. They say it can't be an audio

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Speaker 3: only situation or done through a questionnaire. They do require

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Speaker 3: a camera. They want to see your pet talking to

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Speaker 3: the veterinarian, and veterinarians are only going to be able

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Speaker 3: to treat patients in the state of California. They're not

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Speaker 3: allowed to prescribe any controlled substances or medications to horses

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Speaker 3: involved in racing for example as well. So it's not

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Speaker 3: without some you know, provisos, some strings, but essentially telemedicine

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Speaker 3: has come to veterinary medicine and this will be I

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Speaker 3: think a huge Look, there's so many people who for

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Speaker 3: any number of reasons can't get their animal to the

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Speaker 3: vet because of a whole bunch of logistics associated with it.

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Speaker 3: So this can really get them around that. And I

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Speaker 3: think it's a great well, I'll tell you, it's a

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Speaker 3: great improvement brought on by what brought in by the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the pandemic completely changed the way that we

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Speaker 3: interact with medical institutions, and that's now spilled over, as

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Speaker 3: it appropriately should have, into veterinary medicine. So there's that

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Speaker 3: Nikki Haley is defending leaving slavery out as a cause

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Speaker 3: of the Civil War. You know, that's become a huge controversy.

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Speaker 3: She was asked about the causes of the Civil War.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's a weird question. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: I kind of feel I was wondering, how would other

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Speaker 3: leading candidates have answered that question? I mean, how would

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump have answered the question? For he's the leading candidate. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: she left out slavery, and so that became a big thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, how can you not mention slavery. So now

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Speaker 3: she's saying, I mean, of course the Civil War was

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Speaker 3: about slavery. She said, we know that this is a quote.

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Speaker 3: We know that that's the easy part of it. What

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Speaker 3: I was saying. She continued, what does it mean to

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Speaker 3: us today. What does it mean to us today? Is

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Speaker 3: about freedom, That's what it was all about. It was

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Speaker 3: about individual freedom, it was about econ freedom, it was

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Speaker 3: about individual rights. She says, what was the cause of

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Speaker 3: the United States Civil War was the question? And you know,

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Speaker 3: she answered talking about I believe she talked about the

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Speaker 3: federal government. She said, yeah, it was basically this is

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Speaker 3: what she said, was how the government was going to

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Speaker 3: run the freedoms and what people could and couldn't do.

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Speaker 3: And so this became a huge controversy. It's sort of

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Speaker 3: the controversy of the moment, and she's walked it back,

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Speaker 3: and you know, will it have any influence on her candidacy,

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Speaker 3: Probably not, but it's definitely the it's the question of

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Speaker 3: the day. And remember she's from South Carolina, so it

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Speaker 3: is indeed the case that in South Carolina the Civil

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Speaker 3: War is a far different thing and the legacy of

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Speaker 3: the Civil War is a far different thing than it is,

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Speaker 3: for example, to us in California. It may be a

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Speaker 3: lot more cut and dry, but she is trying to play,

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Speaker 3: to let's face it a constituency that's a little more

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Speaker 3: complex on this issue. But anyway, she is walking it back,

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Speaker 3: and that's the way she's walked it back. Conway is

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Speaker 3: on vacation. The Great Chris Merrill joins for today's Conway's show,

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Speaker 3: What's Up?

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Speaker 8: Chris Well, I was just thinking about that. That question

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Speaker 8: itself is so bizarre, isn't it That they just say, Hey,

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Speaker 8: Nikki Haley, what do you think was the cause of

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Speaker 8: that war that was almost two hundred years ago? As

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Speaker 8: if she's gonna know? But I did see, And this

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Speaker 8: one kind of flew under the radar. They were asking

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden what the cause was of the hundred years

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Speaker 8: War since he was there.

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Speaker 2: So they were like, hey, what was your take? Right? Right?

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Speaker 2: Very good?

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Speaker 8: We'll do some la law and how not to be

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Speaker 8: a good husband. First on the line of bad husbands

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Speaker 8: is sending nude photos to your coworkers who also happen

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Speaker 8: to be your wife's coworkers.

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Speaker 2: Generally frowned upon that, rough one.

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Speaker 8: You may not have known this, but you are living

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Speaker 8: in the matrix, so says one physicist, And we will

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Speaker 8: tell you why. This is the most mind blowing analysis.

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Speaker 2: Of the world around us.

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Speaker 8: And Amazon is full of some real creepy people who've

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Speaker 8: decided they need to start charging you more money because

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Speaker 8: Jeff Bezos just does not have enough.

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Speaker 3: It is insane. Now they have us, and now they

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Speaker 3: can charge us.

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Speaker 5: I'm hooked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. God, it's like cocaine. It is.

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Speaker 3: They play it the same way. Welcome to all of this.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to charge you for all of this.

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Speaker 3: He's a great Chris Merrill for the even greater if

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Speaker 3: you'll allow me. I'm Tim Conway Jr. But there's greatness

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Speaker 3: in both of you, and I'm looking forward to hearing it.

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Speaker 3: So we'll talk to you in a few We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to you tomorrow, but we'll listen to you in a

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Speaker 3: few moments.

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Speaker 2: Thanks excellent Chris.

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Speaker 3: Merrill, Mark saying so long. You can find me on

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Speaker 3: my YouTube show, The Mark Thompson Shows on YouTube. Please

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Speaker 3: of it. Just a subscription, which is free, helps me.

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Speaker 3: It's on YouTube. Everybody associated with the show, Richie and Eric, Deborah,

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Speaker 3: We've had a great visit and we'll do it one

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Speaker 3: more time tomorrow. Chris is next on KFI AM six

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Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast.

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