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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, September twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'm jay E Skeets here in the

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Speaker 1: Classic Factory, and alongside me it's the Bearded One, a

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Speaker 1: top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo, and

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Speaker 1: over Yonder making the magic happen. Super producer JD. Hello,

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Speaker 1: there he is, and here we are thanks to everybody

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Speaker 1: joining us. Alive here on YouTube a little later than normal.

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Speaker 1: Apologies for that, but hit that light button. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you subscribe before we get into the Damian Lillard trade.

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Speaker 1: And my man TK already hit you with an emergency

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Speaker 1: podcast a classic yesterday, but we're gonna break it down

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Speaker 1: in detail here. Quick update about our guy Tassy. His

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Speaker 1: wife Danny wanted to pass on her gratitude to everyone

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Speaker 1: out there that's already donated and left words of encouragement

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Speaker 1: for our guy. I'm gonna read you a small part here. Again.

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Speaker 1: This is from Danielle TAS's wife quote. I'm left speechless

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Speaker 1: from the outpouring of love and support for Task in

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Speaker 1: our family. I am so touched by all the comments

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Speaker 1: after crying for hours. I felt so encouraged to keep going.

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Speaker 1: He will get through this and we will take it

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Speaker 1: one day at a time. She ended by saying, please

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Speaker 1: keep him in your thoughts as we navigate this road

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Speaker 1: to recovery. Again, that was from Danielle. I know I

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Speaker 1: speak for everyone here at No Dunks, you know, all

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Speaker 1: of us here in the factory right now, Jerome our guy,

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Speaker 1: esh everyone at the athletic that we have been absolutely

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed and humbled, honestly by the outpouring of support for tasks.

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Speaker 1: The calls, the texts, the dms, the tweets, the donations.

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Speaker 1: You guys are crazy, so honestly, thank you. And again

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Speaker 1: I think I'm speaking for everyone here, but it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there is a lot of crying when you're reading this,

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Speaker 1: but it is uplifting as well. There's something really cool

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Speaker 1: about a collective, you know, coming to the support of

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Speaker 1: our guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right. It feels like we heard about from

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Speaker 2: every single person in the NBA media who we've met

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Speaker 2: in the past fifteen twenty years basically just offering support

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Speaker 2: and encouragement for tasks for us. The messages have been incredible.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a thing that's hard to stop thinking

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Speaker 2: is just I mean, it is heartwarming when we need it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I got a chance to see Task yesterday

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Speaker 1: for the first time after you guys saw him the

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Speaker 1: days before. It was encouraging that he recognized Nora and I.

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Speaker 1: And what happened while I was there, Damian Lillard got traded.

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Speaker 1: The basketball gods, you sickos. I got a twisted sense

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Speaker 1: you know, phone away, obviously talking to him, which was

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillar trade goes down, but luckily TK was there

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Speaker 1: to do the mini solo emergency podcasts. But we can

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Speaker 1: break it down in detail right now. Yeah, it's a doozy.

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Speaker 2: It's a big boy.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, let's go through it. The Portland Trailblazers traded

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Speaker 1: Damian Lillard to play alongside the Honest with the Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Bucks as part of a three team deal that also

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Speaker 1: includes the Phoenix Suns. Portland receives Drew Holiday for now.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre ayton a Toyota Camry. Is that what that is? No? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding. Milwaukee's twenty twenty nine unprotected first round draft

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Speaker 1: the Suns. They receive use of Nurkic Grayson, Allen Mesr Little,

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Speaker 1: and Keon Johnson as part of the trade package. Now.

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Speaker 1: Dame took to Twitter slash x on Wednesday to thank

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Speaker 1: Portland fans, accept you casuals, and to say he's excited

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Speaker 1: a new track called Farewell on Apple Music, SoundCloud and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: It's not bad. I mean, look, the guy's a really

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Speaker 1: solid rapper. But he says near the end and I quote,

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Speaker 1: I love you. It's unconditional reasons for me leaving the city.

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Speaker 1: Nothing typical, so it's imperative not to believe the narrative.

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Speaker 2: To go interesting. Interesting. Maybe that changes my winners and

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Speaker 2: as I'm concerned. But man, what a crazy trade this was,

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Speaker 2: because it really felt like the culmination of the entire

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Speaker 2: Janis saying, Hey, I want to win some more championships

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Speaker 2: prove it to me that you want me to stick around. Somehow,

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Speaker 2: these all came together. Yeah, Damian Lillard traded to play

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Speaker 1: It's a good way to look at it. Is this

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Speaker 1: your biggest winner in all of this, It's Giannis and

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Speaker 2: I was debating if my biggest winner was going to

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Speaker 2: and I think ultimately I'm going with Milwaukee as the

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Speaker 2: Giannis was eligible for an extension. Last time around, in

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Speaker 2: exact same thing. The Bucks are going all in for

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Speaker 2: Jannisanta to Coumpo the second half of his prime. The

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Speaker 2: if you're a Bucks fan, with the security of Damian

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Speaker 2: I think from Drew Holiday to Damien lo there will

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Speaker 2: I'm signed up. Look at what you did. I was

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Speaker 2: of you know, keeping Gianis around? Is this a huge

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Speaker 1: This is absolutely what this is. It's yeah. The one

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Speaker 1: The parallels between the Bucks training a bunch of first

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Speaker 1: to being sort of irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, yes, I mean Ayanis comes around once every

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Speaker 2: I think they're getting even better because, like you're saying,

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Speaker 2: Skeets Willard changes the geometry of the court for the

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Speaker 1: There's some still good teams in the East Conference. I

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Speaker 1: And man, you said this in the Emergency podcast, there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bucks had pressure coming into this season with

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Speaker 1: All right, So so Jannis slash Lillard slash Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: One other question I do have for you, though, what

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Speaker 2: Oh has a nickname freak freak plus dame time.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I mean people are pointing out like it

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Speaker 1: Let's go back and forth between winners and losers here,

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Speaker 2: My biggest loser isn't even a part of this trade, Skates.

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Speaker 2: It's the Miami Heat. Okay, brutal offseason for the Heat

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Speaker 2: I've lost track of the details, but I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: he removed the Miami Heat from his social bios skeets.

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Speaker 2: You know that actually means something.

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Speaker 1: Imagine having to put that back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still here, loving it. Now they need a pat

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Speaker 1: What about Drew Holiday.

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Speaker 2: You can get to that. We'll definitely get to it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well if they wanted to go after Yannis. But as

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Speaker 2: That's the next guy. Everyone's like, who's the next guy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you have been saying it for years. Now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We just will not trade with you. I don't know

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Speaker 2: I think they are. I mean, it's such a weird

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Speaker 1: In a video posted to his Instagram story yesterday, Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler? Now you have a theory that this was

428
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Speaker 1: a complete troll job, Like a lot of people are like,

429
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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? What what does he know?

430
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: Like what did they do? What did Milwaukee do to

431
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 1: get Damian Lillard? But do you just believe he's just like,

432
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,480
Speaker 1: it's Jimmy Butler.

433
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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, he's he's a great troll. You know,

434
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 2: we've seen Jimmy Butler over the summer doing the Dame

435
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: Time celebration at his camps. Is that tampering? I don't know,

436
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: Dame Time tampering. I also saw Jimmy Butler filling up

437
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 2: his Bugatti at a gas station two days ago, and

438
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: he was complaining that it was too expensive to fill

439
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Speaker 2: up his Bugatti one hundred and forty five dollars for

440
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Speaker 2: a tank of gas. Look, gas is expensive, but the

441
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 2: guy's got it. Yes, I think he was joking. I

442
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: think he was joking about being upset about how he

443
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Speaker 2: had to fill up the Bugatti. And also I think

444
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 2: he was joking about tampering, because everybody's tampering at all times.

445
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and players can do that.

446
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 2: Yes, that's the thing.

447
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: But look, maybe we find out something that Jimmy knows

448
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: that we didn't hear from him, but maybe he knows.

449
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: Agent Aaron Goodwin with Damian Lillard there, he spoke with

450
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Speaker 1: the Miami Harold about the Heat's efforts to trade for Lillard.

451
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Speaker 1: Shortly after this deal was reported and him going to Milwaukee.

452
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: Quote Aaron Goodwin. They Miami. They did everything they could

453
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Speaker 1: to acquire Dame, said Goodwin. It takes two to get

454
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Speaker 1: a deal done. I appreciate all that pat Riley, Andy

455
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 1: Ellisberg and Mickey Erson, the owner of the Heat did

456
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 1: to try and make this happen. End quote. That's an interesting,

457
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 1: interesting little wrinkle to all this, Like he that that

458
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: almost speaks to why you see the Heat conspiracor conspirators

459
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: saying no, they just they just wouldn't deal with us.

460
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 1: They wouldn't work with us. We gave them. But then

461
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 1: you hear that the package was built around Tyler Hero

462
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: and at least two first round picks, and that's what

463
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Speaker 1: you hear, and that they hadn't talked in months.

464
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Speaker 2: They hadn't talked in months.

465
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't so that makes you, I don't know,

466
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Speaker 1: leads me to believe that they didn't really offer all

467
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 1: they could to get Damian Lillard because they felt they

468
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Speaker 1: probably didn't need to.

469
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: Brian Vindhurst that the Hoop Collective was speculating that Tyler

470
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Speaker 2: Hero may have not even been include in the offer.

471
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't know for certain that it was, but clearly

472
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Speaker 2: there was not a lot of negotiating going on between

473
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Speaker 2: Portland and Miami. I think it's a little strange that

474
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Speaker 2: the agent's coming out and saying, hey, man, Miami tried.

475
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: Don't you worry. They were really in on it. Who cares? Literally,

476
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 2: who cares? I guess he's just trying to, you know,

477
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Speaker 2: maintain working face a little bit, save face exactly.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, let's talk about the Blazers. Do you

479
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Speaker 1: have the Blazers as a winner or a loser from

480
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Speaker 1: this blockbuster deal?

481
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Speaker 2: I got the Blazers as a winner. People are saying

482
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Speaker 2: wait and see with regards to Drew Holliday potentially moving

483
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Speaker 2: on to another team, but I think that he will

484
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: move to another team. I don't foresee Drew Holliday sticking

485
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Speaker 2: around in Portland all that all that long, and I

486
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 2: do think he will bring back a decent return. But

487
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: even if not. Joe Cronin didn't like the Heat deal.

488
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: That was pretty clear. Everybody thought it was going to

489
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Speaker 2: go through anyways. You did. I did, just because it

490
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Speaker 2: seemed like the only offer that was out there until

491
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: the Raptors and Bulls showed a little bit of interest. Clearly,

492
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: we didn't know all the facts about the Bucks but waited.

493
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: He said, I'm gonna do wait as long as I

494
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Speaker 2: can until something good happens. Something came in that they

495
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 2: liked better, and he still sent Dame to a title contender.

496
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Dame's got as good of a shot in Milwaukee as

497
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 2: he does in Miami. He may not like brought worst

498
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 2: as much as Cubano's, but brought worst are pretty good well.

499
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Speaker 2: I also like that the Blazers are starting the scoot

500
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Speaker 2: arrow with a team that makes sense here. They've got

501
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Speaker 2: potential to grow together. It comes down to do you

502
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: think DeAndre Ayton or Tyler Hero is better? Do you

503
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Speaker 2: think you can get a better return for Drew Holliday

504
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 2: or Tyler Hero. I don't know about Ayton versus Hero.

505
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Speaker 2: I think Ayton will probably put up some big numbers

506
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Speaker 2: in Portland now that he's gonna have an opportunity here,

507
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: and I think Hero could have put up big numbers

508
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: as well. I definitely think though, that Drew Holliday will

509
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Speaker 2: net a better return than Tyler Hero. We've talked a

510
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: lot of times. There's several Tyler Hero style players. He's

511
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Speaker 2: on a big contract right now, whereas with Drew Holliday,

512
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: he's a guy that every single contender will be interested in.

513
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: He's further on in his career. You know what you're

514
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Speaker 2: getting from Drew Holliday, and he plays both sides of

515
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Speaker 2: the ball. So I think they can get more assets

516
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: back for Holiday than they could have for here out.

517
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: And I understand Portland wanting to add a big guy

518
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: rather than another small guard when it comes to eight

519
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 2: and versus Yeah, what are you thinking?

520
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Speaker 1: Well, I believe just so I have this right, Holiday

521
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: can be re routed, but he can't be aggregated with

522
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: other contracts for two months, so keep that in mind.

523
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Speaker 1: Now here's the other thing. Drew Holliday seems like the

524
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Speaker 1: exact type of player I would actually want to bring

525
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Speaker 1: to my super young team, especially led by a young

526
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Speaker 1: guard in Scoot Henderson, to sort of just be the

527
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Speaker 1: so the mentor I guess at the start of an

528
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Speaker 1: early career, you know, like we've seen it a little

529
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Speaker 1: bit before, like and they've talked about it, just like

530
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Speaker 1: Shay Gildess Alexander having Chris Paul for a year and

531
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: just like the impact that I had on him and

532
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: blossom into a better player. So I mean, I do

533
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Speaker 1: think they will look to move Drew Holiday, and they'll,

534
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Speaker 1: you know, do well by him, and he's like one

535
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: of the most respected guys in this league, and there'll

536
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: be tons of teams lining up for him because there'll

537
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: be so many squads going. Man, we had drew Holiday,

538
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: our chances the title went from X to a lot better, right,

539
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: because of what he can bring on both sides of

540
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: the ball. But he could stay there for a little bit,

541
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: and I don't think that would be the end of

542
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 1: the world. Not a bad haul. I'm I believe in

543
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton. I think a fresh start is really what

544
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: this guy needs. I think he's gonna put up some

545
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: big numbers. I also know when we get to Phoenix,

546
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: I get why that they were sort of done with

547
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: them and maybe it was like just sort of like

548
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: it's a bit of an addition by subtraction with him,

549
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: just maybe how they felt about him, just how he

550
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: maybe attacks the game or he doesn't want to play

551
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: at times and stuff like that. All that, but I

552
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: sort of believe in him here in Portland with the

553
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: young squad there with Scoot, with Sharp, with Simon, so

554
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I think they did okay. I think they also probably

555
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: like future Bucks picks more than future heat picks. Now,

556
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: I always go like, how the hell do you know

557
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: what that? You know what these teams and where we're

558
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: going to be in this league come twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty.

559
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: It's like a bit of like okay, but yeah, the heater,

560
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, generally good and they are the picks are like,

561
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 1: you know, they're not amazing usually they're just the way

562
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: they're organization is so well run where you could talk

563
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: yourself into hey, maybe it goes poorly with Giannis. Indeed,

564
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: maybe there's an injury and maybe Honest is leaving anyway,

565
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: who knows. Well then that, like we said, man, maybe

566
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's a very bad team in the future, long long future.

567
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: So maybe that was a part of this equation too.

568
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Speaker 2: I think that absolutely is. Miami has a track record

569
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: of finding stars, whether it be Shack way back when

570
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Lebron and Chris Bosh, Jimmy Butler, like they've gotten stars.

571
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid coming up, yeah, future, Joelle Ebid.

572
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: They've been getting stars for twenty five years. Yeah, basically

573
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: whereas Milwaukee they got to draft their stars. Yeah what

574
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: they did with Giannas So I think a worthy bet

575
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 2: from Portland to want Milwaukee's picks because come twenty twenty eight,

576
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: Jannis will be thirty four years old, Dame will be

577
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. Yeah, they could have won a championship.

578
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: And this could still be in a win for the

579
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,959
Speaker 2: Bucks trading those picks to Brian Damon win a title

580
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: and a win for the Blazers getting those picks, because

581
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: those guys are older.

582
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Speaker 1: Than banners hang forever. Then banners hang forever.

583
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: All right, spitting here, I can't help it, man, I'm

584
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: just spitting so hard.

585
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, le'd me cook. It really comes down to how

586
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: you feel about eight and a former number one pick.

587
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: He's only twenty five years old, but you get him,

588
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: you get an unprotected first round pick, and you get

589
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Holiday, who again is either this great

590
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: mentor for for Scut and Co. Or he's flipped into

591
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: further assets. And I'm with you that I think they

592
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: they believe we're gonna get more for Drew Holiday than

593
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: we are for telor Hero. And we don't want to

594
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: tell a hero Miami, so find the third team and

595
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: then and give us more assets and more more picks

596
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. And they probably think like they're getting I

597
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: don't know you're at least getting one and then maybe

598
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: a young player or something like that that fits your

599
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: timeline more. But I guess, like who's going to be

600
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: lining Like obviously we talked about Miami wanting Drew Holiday. Yeah,

601
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: good fit. The Celtics should be you know, kicking the

602
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: tires on that and trying to get him, you know,

603
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: moving off of well who they'd have to move and

604
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: they wouldn't want to move Derek White seah right, that's

605
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: a good point, and tons of other teams like that.

606
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: Like we said, like he's just like he's he's had

607
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: some bad playoff performances Drew Holiday has, but man, I

608
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: mean as a locker room guy and a guy that

609
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: like tries his ass off on the defensive end and

610
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: then he's not bad offensively, that teams will be lining up.

611
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: So we'll see what they get. But you know, in

612
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: the end, it's gonna look it could look like a

613
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good return for a guy that was like,

614
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: well I'm leaving man because you're you're picking your direction

615
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: and Joe Cron and you're right. He waited, he waited,

616
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: He kept telling Miami, we don't like your offer. I

617
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: guess they just never talked after that. That's the weirdest

618
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: part of this.

619
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: That's the weirdest part.

620
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: Like that's where you're like, what are you doing Miami, Like,

621
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: like you guess do you decided we didn't want to

622
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: go that hard for Damian Lillard. If you could fall

623
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: to us, great, but we want to keep keep the

624
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: powder cake drive for potential other big names maybe, And

625
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: they just refuse to give in to Lillard's agent and

626
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: the pressure that you know, he say only Miami, only

627
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: in Miami, so you know, credit credit to them. They'll

628
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: just really see what they get Naton here, and I

629
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: really believe a fresh start for him with obviously very

630
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: low expectations in terms of winning right away, could do

631
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: them well. I think yeah.

632
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: And the Blazers don't have a player at the center position,

633
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: especially after trading Nurkic, whereas they have three really good,

634
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: smaller athletic guards in Scoot Simon's and Sharp the Triple

635
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: S guys. So I think it makes sense because at

636
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: the very least Ayton is a better young player than

637
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: anybody the heat we're offering. I'm not including Tyler Hero

638
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: because they said they didn't want him. He would have

639
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: been rerouted. Ayton is a better player, a better prospect

640
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: than a Hakez or a Yovich or any of those

641
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: guys that were going to be the throw in potential

642
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: future piece for the Blazers. Not to mention, the Jeremy

643
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: Grant deal seemed weird at the time. They send him

644
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: this giant deal. That guy's on the trade block. He

645
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: might he might be traded by trade deadline, you know.

646
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 2: And then we're talking about even more picks coming in

647
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: for the Blazers. So Joe Cronin's been scheming pretty good stuff.

648
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you got any winners, Scoot Sharp, Simon's Jeremy Grant,

649
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: who Yeah, you're right. One hundred and sixty million dollars contract.

650
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: I think that just signed a boy and now Eton,

651
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe they're not done is a good point.

652
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: And of course they do have Drew Holliday here and

653
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: so see where they reroute him. Let's talk about the

654
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: Suns because I have a feeling we've agreed on a

655
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: lot here. But how do you feel about how Phoenix

656
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: did in what they got there? Just to go over

657
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: it again, it's it's Nurkic, it's Grayson Allen, and then

658
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: it's a here Little and Keon Johnson, two guys that

659
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: maybe maybe cracked the rotation. Neces Here Little probably more

660
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: of a chance Kean Johnson. I don't know, but winner

661
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: loser Phoenix Suns for sort of slipping in here and

662
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: swapping Eaton for Nirkitchen getting Grayson Allen.

663
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: They're a loser for me. I am not a big

664
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: Nurkic guy. I think he is maybe not significantly worse

665
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: than DeAndre Ayton, but I do think he is a

666
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: level down from Ayton as a starting center. He's obviously

667
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: a lot older. He's had trouble staying on the court

668
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: the past few seasons. He's missed twenty to thirty games

669
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: every season since twenty nineteen when he broke his leg

670
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. Is kind of the last time we

671
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: saw Nurkic at his peak. When he was at his peak,

672
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: he was pretty good, a good defender, a solid rebounder,

673
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: He's a good ball mover. He's definitely more physical than

674
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: Eighton is. But I really think this is all about

675
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: you mentioned it addition by subtraction. They are just so

676
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: done with Ayton that they would rather have use of Nurkic.

677
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: That's crazy. To me, the Suns, a championship contender, are

678
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: running back the Blazers front court from last season. You've

679
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: been nurkchen U Banks. They were one of the worst

680
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: defensive teams in the league for the past three years.

681
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: They have been, but they did the Blazers. You slipped

682
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: it in there. The Blazers did defend well over over

683
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: the years when Nurkic actually played. The problem is at

684
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: tans he doesn't play, so that's that's a risk here.

685
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: But the one area he helps much more than DeAndre,

686
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: even though Eaton's a better player, younger player, he rebounds

687
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: is for the rebounding sickos out there, that's one thing

688
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: nurk can do. He gives a damn. You don't think

689
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: that matters at all on a team where like, hey,

690
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: we need guys to do the dirty work eight and

691
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: a doing it.

692
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: I think I don't think Nurkic is a good that

693
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: good of a rebounder. You look at that defensive rebounding percentages,

694
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, probably thirty percent for Nurkic, which

695
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: is solid, and twenty eight percent for a pretty soon

696
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: I think I think Nurkic is a better offensive rebounder

697
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: because he stays by the rim more so than Ayton does.

698
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: But I think the best things you're getting from Nurkic

699
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: are his ball movement and his physicality. Yeah, but I

700
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 2: don't think he's a significantly better uh rebounder. And I

701
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: think that Ayton at his peak, at his most engaged,

702
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: like we saw in the twenty one finals run, he's

703
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: a way better defender and rebounder.

704
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. The contracts come into play though, too, absolutely right,

705
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: not just the attitude of Ayton and whether like guys

706
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: like Booker were like, we just can't stand this guy anymore,

707
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: and like, does this guy got a case of the

708
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons that it does even really like basketball, which

709
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: he's sort of been painted with that brush. Where yeah,

710
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: Nirk again, if he can play, if he stays healthy,

711
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: he like gives a damn a little bit more. Could

712
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: it just be a better roster fit even though he's

713
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: a less talented player. That's what they're banking on, That's

714
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: what they're and the contract, like Eaton makes a whole

715
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: lot more money than Nurkic, and they've got a lot

716
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: of guys on their team that make a ton of dough.

717
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Sons actually took on money in this

718
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: deal with all of the four guys that they did,

719
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: and it's like, yes, they did split these into four

720
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: different players. They eate and deal into four different players.

721
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: But good luck trying to trade are little first anything.

722
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I almost look at this as like

723
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: it was it was Nurkin Grayson Allen for eight and here. Yeah,

724
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: that's what they did because Grayson Allen, I mean, he's

725
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: struggled in last year's playoffs, like he was pretty bad,

726
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: but otherwise he's been a solid bench guy from Milwaukee.

727
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: He's a career thirty nine point five percent three point shooter.

728
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna get open. Looks like on the Phoenix Suns

729
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: with all that talent out there, can you knock it down?

730
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Can you give them a little secondary playmaking there? You

731
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: know when some of their big guys sit, I like,

732
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: I sort of like that fit. And he's been in

733
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: big playoff series and you know he won't be He

734
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't be like shy of the moment because he's been

735
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: in those situations. Don't kick anybody at any time. He

736
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: will he will, He'll be an asshole. I mean, that's

737
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: what honestly like you're you're joking, but they sort of

738
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: were like, we need to look like some guys with

739
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: a little grit. Now, Like he's a bit of a dick,

740
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, not Grady Dick, but like we

741
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: like eight and we just said we like him. He's good.

742
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: I think he can still be a really good player.

743
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: But that is not his makeup, I mean really not.

744
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: That's more your NRK and your Grayson Allen. Just a

745
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: bit of an attitude, definitely true. Yeah, yeah, And so

746
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to now this with their top end talent

747
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: in Booker, Durant and Beale, they have filled out their

748
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: roster with all these inexpensive role players. You know, you

749
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: throw these two guys in there now. But Eric, Gordon, Watanabi, Bates, Giop,

750
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: Hugh Banks, he said, bol Bowl is there. And then

751
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: they get rid of the eight and you know, headache

752
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: and they have a more balanced roster maybe now. But

753
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: it's the number one pick who was good for the guy?

754
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy.

755
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: We knock him left and right, and the guy's like

756
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: eighteen ten in his sleep exactly, and he was pretty

757
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: instrumental wh to the finals a couple of years ago.

758
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the criticism is that when it

759
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: comes to skills, Deandre's eight and is the best at

760
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: bag chasing, and that's what he's out there for, and

761
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: he's compared to everybody else that was in his draft.

762
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: This guy was in a draft with Luka, Doncic, Tree Young,

763
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: and Shay Gilges Alexander and they turn him into use

764
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: of Nurkic. That's why people are down on DeAndre eight

765
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: and a change of scenery is definitely right for him.

766
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: But the roster for the Sons is so weird to

767
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: me because you list all the names and literally everybody's like, oh.

768
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that guy.

769
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: I like that guy.

770
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: I like that guy.

771
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: And these are all like tenth guys on a team.

772
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: But we're all like, oh, they're gonna be fine, They're

773
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: gonna be a great seventh man. We'll see, we'll see.

774
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: There's just a lot of question marks. But now they

775
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: have so many question marks that you have to figure

776
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: that some of them are gonna hit.

777
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. They've got like seven eight

778
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: guys out there, like, we just need two of these

779
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: guys to, like, at the right time, hit in a

780
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: playoff series or for a month like yeah, and like,

781
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: is it a Watt Nabi? Is it Anara Gordon? You know,

782
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: like that's what they're hoping.

783
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: All right, pick your two sons, pick your two and

784
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna like for this year? Oh like of the randoms, Yeah,

785
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: I picked two randoms for sure.

786
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I play that guard and then uh, you know what,

787
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: give me give me a bull bowl. Okay, okay, I'm

788
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna go deep there. Give me a bull bull that'll

789
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: have a like a awesome six week stretch.

790
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: All right, cool, I will go in for Grayson Allen

791
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: and Chimezi Metuh. I didn't even listen to those are

792
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: my guys for this year?

793
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Who else do you have as a winner and or loser?

794
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: I got Dame Lillard as a winner. I do think

795
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: he is. He He wasn't my ultimate winner because he

796
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: wanted to go to Miami. He definitely did. He did

797
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: not get his way. But guess what, you still ended

798
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: up in a great situation. The fit is still great.

799
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: Like it looked like the Miami fit was gonna be nice.

800
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 2: They have a wing and a big they need a guard.

801
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: That's kind of what happened with Milwaukee as well. Like

802
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: we said, he's reunited with Terry Stotts. I think that

803
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: Milwaukee and Dame Lillard is just a little bit better

804
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: than Miami and Dame Lillard. Not to mention he's now

805
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: tied with Giannis Onto Jakunpo, who's five years younger than

806
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. The prime is now for the Heat they

807
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: absolutely have to win. Whereas with Yannis, who knows how

808
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: his skills are gonna play out as his career as

809
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: he gets further and further into his career. Obviously as

810
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: a super hard worker, he's a great athlete. We'll see

811
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,959
Speaker 2: how training with Keem Elijahwan goes.

812
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: But he does try and add something every year.

813
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. But man thin, I think Lillard would

814
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: have been a great fit for Heat culture. But I

815
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: think that Janis brings a Heat Culture like sort of

816
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: vibe of hard work and making the best out of yourself.

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: So I think Lillard did end up in a great place.

818
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: And who was it that I think it was either

819
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: sorry I didn't write it down, it was other Spears

820
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: or Haynes, but saying, like Goodwin after realizing the Heat,

821
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: they're not picking up the phone anymore, or like the

822
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: Blazers are not picking up the heat's phone, whatever way

823
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: you want to put it. Damien and his camp opened

824
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: up the idea of like, hey, we would go to Milwaukee,

825
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: we would go to Brooklyn, I think was the other teamer.

826
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: So that list of I can only play from Miami,

827
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: they added two more squads. Here's what people were saying yesterday.

828
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently both Dame and Giannis have said at

829
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: some point in interviews that they would like to play

830
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 2: with each other. There's the clip getting around Yannis taking

831
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: Dame with his first pick in the draft, and Lebron

832
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: be like, oh, that's my tampering move, and he drew.

833
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: Dar and he took him over Drew who was in

834
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: the pool.

835
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: Of spy, spicy stuff. You gotta pay attention to the

836
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: breadcrumbs at all times.

837
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: It's exactly right. It's like watching Survivor. Man, all these

838
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: NBA writers, you thought everybody was on strike. No, they

839
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: were crafting something special here. Okay, So Dame, I'm with you.

840
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: He is a winner. He's I mean the guys, he

841
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: wants to win a title. He's at that point of

842
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: his career and you paired up with one of the

843
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: elite players in the league with a really good team

844
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: that have done it before. And you know you're also

845
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. There's that too. I again, I

846
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: do not I think I would have them as the favorite,

847
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: but I do not think the gap is huge between

848
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: still the Boston Celtics. I know we'll include Philadelphia and Hell.

849
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean the Miami Heat. They always find a way.

850
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: They're the z they got to, you got to And

851
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: then you know, who knows, can the Calves or a

852
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: team like the Knicks make another make a move out

853
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: of nowhere and add to their teams like there are

854
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: good squads there in the East. But he is joining

855
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: the perennial favorites now of the eatern Conference. That's amazing

856
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: for him for his chances. Who else winner or loser

857
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: any other minor ones?

858
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: I got a minor minor winner, mar John Bowchamp. Okay,

859
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: I think he's a winner because he was wearing number

860
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: zero last year. Oh yeah, Damian Lillard ain't gonna want

861
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: to switch numbers. So mar John Bowchamp is gonna get

862
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: paid out here twenty five thousand dollars. Well, I don't

863
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: know how much.

864
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Who's his agent? Because we should become his agent? Twenty

865
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars. Okay, that's cheap. I also want I

866
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: want to feature on a Damian Lillard track. Okay, okay,

867
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: I want.

868
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: What sponsored exactly exactly like New Danes on my sea.

869
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: Throw in some extras here. Yeah, yeah, that's what he'd

870
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: better be doing.

871
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: So I think it could be a glow up for

872
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: bow Champion. And on the court, Grayson Aten's gone one

873
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: less wing in competition for some minutes here. All he's

874
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: got to do to crack the rotation is defend and

875
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: be an athlete because the Bucks they still don't have

876
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: a ton of athletes. So it's kind of gonna be

877
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: between Bouchamp and their rookie Andre Jackson, who is also

878
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: like a super athlete and could be a defender. Bow

879
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Champ had a really nice summer league. I don't know

880
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 2: if that's gonna mean anything. He's like, at best gonna

881
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: be like a ninth or tenth man, but maybe he

882
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: could be their ninth or tenth MANE.

883
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be cool. There's an opportunity obviously. Still, they

884
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: do have Bobby Portis, you know, coming off the bench.

885
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: They got a really sweet top six.

886
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do, they do, So that's a good one,

887
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: good winner there bow Champ, you should get paid. Yeah,

888
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: you're right, like dam it Willer. It's not going to

889
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: change his number. So I can imagine yeah, M zero

890
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: and you know, I think you can convince Bouchamp to

891
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: give it up.

892
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what the going rate is for a

893
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Jersey number. I feel like you would see like ten

894
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 2: thousand dollars in a sports illustrated in the nineteen nineties

895
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: for somebody want to switch their numbers. But I mean inflation,

896
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 2: I would have to imagine twenty five is one.

897
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: You think that's a business expense that he can write

898
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: off Dame.

899
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably does have like several trademarks based around

900
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: He calls it the letter. Oh so maybe, so I

901
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 2: gotta have.

902
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: I never thought about that until that, But I think

903
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: you you got the right accountant. You can make that work.

904
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: Anyone else on your list here, I gotta ask you,

905
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: are the Raptors a minor loser? I only asked because

906
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: as soon as I saw this trade go down, I

907
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: went on Twitter and saw that Messia and Bobby was

908
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: trending immediately.

909
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you're hearing that they didn't even offer Ogobi.

910
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: They didn't offer any of the Big three trade charger.

911
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: No, no Siakam, no og or no Barnes two made sense.

912
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: We thought og he's been in every trade rumor maybe

913
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: a piece of the Blazers would be interested in. So

914
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: we did say, I already got Jeremy Grant. I mean,

915
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: it's a weird sort of similar type player, one better

916
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: on defense, one offense. But anyway, Uh, yeah, I don't know.

917
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about it. I like,

918
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: on one hand, I didn't want to give up the

919
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: farm for Damian Lillard at all. Didn't want to do

920
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: that because I didn't think it made like the Bucks.

921
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: It didn't make the Raptors. Oh, they're at the top

922
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: of the Eastern Conference, they would be there. But it's

923
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: still a hell of a gamble if you're giving up

924
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: and mortgaging the future and obviously good players going out.

925
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: But if it was like wow, you wouldn't even include Ogbi.

926
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 1: I've already made my opinions known about him and where

927
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: he's maybe gonna go or not as a player. As

928
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: he moves on in this league, gets a little older

929
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: and maybe gets more opportunity, that's weird. That's a little weird.

930
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: If that's true, and you know, we'll start hearing more

931
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: and more like, oh, this is what they had on

932
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: the table, this is where they would go. But it's

933
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: not good for the Raptors now, even because I mean

934
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: may have been disgruntled. Well, yeah, they're in the conference

935
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: with a better team. Good point. And you've been trying

936
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: to trade this guy. It's been no secret. That's not

937
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: always easy to come back, not always, no, no, And

938
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: you know they wanted three picks for him at the

939
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: deadline last year. That has has that changed at all?

940
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: Now they won't even include him in a potential Damian Loch.

941
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: It makes it doesn't make a lot of sense. But A.

942
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm a little in between on that one.

943
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: That's why I think only at most they're a minor loser.

944
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: But I also would say that you can be a

945
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: minor winner because Raptors are going to be in trade

946
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: rumors for another six months, Skeets, we can talk about

947
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: your team every time a transaction cycle comes around.

948
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a. That's a that's

949
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: a small W for me, I guess content just a

950
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: lowercase W. Yeah, that's good, that's good. All right, Well,

951
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: let's hear from everybody out there, winners and losers. You

952
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: got anything else left on the bone there?

953
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? I came up with a game yesterday Skeets called

954
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: Connect five. Okay, it's not like Connect four, but similar.

955
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: I'll give you five. I'll give you five NBA players.

956
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: You have to tell me what they have in common.

957
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, here's today's roster. Okay, Damian Lillard, Neurlin's Noel,

958
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Dario Sarich, Eric Bledsoe and Steven Adams. What do these

959
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: five players have in common?

960
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Okay, give them to me one more time. Just last names?

961
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:02,479
Speaker 1: Is fine?

962
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: Willard, Noel, Yeah, common neuralins. Not a last name, that's true, Sich,

963
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: Bledsoe and Steven Adams?

964
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: Did you already tip your hand with this bowt chant?

965
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: No?

966
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: They did not. All these guys wore zero.

967
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: No, they didn't know. They didn't know.

968
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Am I on the right path with that?

969
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: No?

970
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: Probably not? Okay? Did they all? Did they all play?

971
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean like they didn't all play on the same

972
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: damn team? Because Lillard played for one franchise, that's right,

973
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: So that's not going to be the link. Was there

974
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: a teammate there? A teammate that would be very difficult, man,

975
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: You'd be putting me on the spot with that one.

976
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: A teammate would be difficult. But you're in the right

977
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 2: sort of zone.

978
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I am Adams. Adams is like the weird, a bit

979
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: of a curveball, big steve.

980
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: I'm not just keeping the pattern going. These are not hints.

981
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: I can't really give you hints. Y, yeah, I mean

982
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: I guess you could steer me in the right direction.

983
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, let's just say that this is topical skeets.

984
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: The answer is topical. The answer is top The answer

985
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: is oh so timely and topical.

986
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking trades, we are, okay, So, so

987
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: who Drew Holiday was trade? Was Drew Holiday involved in

988
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: a trade with all five of these guys?

989
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: Every player traded for Drew Holiday?

990
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for getting me there. I'm not

991
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: sure I would have.

992
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: Without that little help. That's exactly right. Drew Holiday surprisingly

993
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: has been involved in three massive trades. You don't you

994
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: think of James Harden. You think of like Kevin Durant

995
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: as guys who are involved in these big NBA change

996
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: in trades. But look at Drew Holiday. In twenty thirteen,

997
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: he kicked off the process like the greatest tanking experiment

998
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: in the history of the NBA, at least in the

999
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: past few seasons. He was traded for Nerlins Noel and

1000
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: a twenty fourteen draft pick. Alfred Peyton Is who the

1001
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: Sixers took, and they traded him for Dario Sarrich on

1002
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Draft Night. So that's how Neurlin's and Dariel sorry are

1003
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: in the mix. Drew out those two in In twenty twenty,

1004
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday was part of a four team trade that

1005
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: helped get Giannisty extend with the Bucks and then the

1006
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: Bucks won their first title in fifty years. Drew was

1007
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: traded from New Orleans. In return, they got back Eric

1008
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: Blood from Milwaukee and Steven Adams from the thunder.

1009
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: See, that was the one that I was like, that

1010
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: was a four team deal.

1011
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 2: That's a fourteen deal. That's a chunky, chunky one.

1012
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had definitely forgotten that.

1013
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: You definitely forget like the one year Steven Adams played

1014
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. That's also crazy to look at this

1015
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: and see that New Orleans also got the twenty four

1016
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: to twenty five, twenty six and twenty seven Milwaukee firsts.

1017
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: Drew Holliday is gone from Milwaukee, and they still o

1018
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: picks to New Orleans. Now. Twenty twenty three, Drew Holliday

1019
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: traded from the Bucks to the Blazers for Damian Lillard.

1020
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: There it is.

1021
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: That's how those guys are all real.

1022
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: There it is. And again, banners hang forever, banners hang forever.

1023
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: Cares worth it cares. Picks are gone. Who guess is it?

1024
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: Picks are gone?

1025
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: Oh, we can hang the picks up in the in

1026
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: the roster. You can ever no offense. But we're not

1027
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: hanging Elfred Peyton's banner up in you know, wherever the

1028
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Mortlanto or wherever. I mean, you're hanging banners. That's why

1029
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: you're doing this. But it's a gamble. There is no doubt,

1030
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: there is no Hey, look it works out and you

1031
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: win titles from time to time. And there are many

1032
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: other instances where holy crap, we suck now and we

1033
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: don't have any of our picks. You know, see the

1034
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: Brooklyn nets from the Paul Pierce.

1035
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Garnette dis Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1036
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: So you know, you never know. That's what makes it fun.

1037
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: All right, that's good. Connect five. I like that. That

1038
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: might be a keeper. There. You tell us, did anybody

1039
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: else get it out there? I wasn't looking at the

1040
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: stream team. Did anybody else nail it?

1041
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: Ya?

1042
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Sickos? I'm sure somebody did. Okay, well, let's call it

1043
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: there another hour there on the Damian Lillard blockbuster trade.

1044
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: It finally happened. So now the real question is when

1045
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: does the James Harden trade happen? And it does it

1046
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: involve Drew Holliday.

1047
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 2: I saw a speculation from Bobby Marks that this could

1048
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: be turned into a four team trade since it's not official,

1049
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, you know, and they could maybe sneak

1050
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: in a hardened trade as well. Wow, let us know

1051
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: what y'all think. Who gets traded first, James Harden or Drew.

1052
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Holiday or is at the same time? Does Harden go

1053
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: to the Clippers? Does Drew go to Philip back to Philadelphia?

1054
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: Is that even a possibility?

1055
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: Spiciest one I saw was potentially Drew Holiday to the

1056
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors Chris Paul and Jonathan KUMINGA.

1057
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: Interesting. I hadn't seen that one. We're have to come

1058
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: back soon and talk about that one. Oh, the trade rumors.

1059
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: I do feel like the Eastern Conference Championship not the

1060
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: title overall, you know, the Nuggets are still in the mix.

1061
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: Great teams in the West, but the Eastern Conference championship.

1062
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: I said, it feels like it's gonna come down to

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton his health and play. Kris STAPs porzingis his

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Speaker 1: health and play, And honestly, I'll throw in Drew Holidays

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Speaker 1: health and plate if he makes his way to an

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference team. Be at the heat, be at the sixers,

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Speaker 1: you know, be at the Celtics, be at one of

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Speaker 1: these squads.

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Speaker 2: Somebody calls Simon Cowell because we're talking about the X factors.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly an X factor.

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Speaker 1: He was on the voice. I don't know which one, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: expect I think, yeah the voice is the Shelton Blake

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Speaker 1: Shelton guy, right, and yeah, he's not on it anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't think really Shelton's Shelton.

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Speaker 2: No, No, he was just like.

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Speaker 1: He started dating Gwen's the fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were both place romance.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's not it. They both turned around in the

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Speaker 1: chair at the same time. He caught each other's eye

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Speaker 1: and the taste they had in that voice they were

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Speaker 1: hearing that's beautiful. All right, we'll call it there We

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Speaker 1: will be back, of course with an emergency podcast if

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Speaker 1: Harden or Drew maybe get traded otherwise, back here in

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Speaker 1: the Classic Factory to talk hoops next week. So make

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Speaker 1: sure you subscribe, make sure you like the video. Again,

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Speaker 1: thanks to everybody for the outpouring of support for our

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Speaker 1: guy Tassy. It was great to see him yesterday. It

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Speaker 1: was awesome to see him and to hear his voice.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to uh all of us actually

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Speaker 1: to get back to the hospital there to see him again.

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Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you, thank you. We love you.

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Speaker 1: If you are a Survivor fan and you watched last

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Speaker 1: night's premiere episode of Survivor forty five, join us in

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Speaker 1: about an hour one pm Eastern over on No Busts,

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Speaker 1: its own YouTube feed, its own podcast feed, as we

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Speaker 1: break down that first episode. The episode was titled we

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Speaker 1: Can Do Hard Things, to which I say, can can you?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. So that's all I'll say right now.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot more to say on nobus with

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Speaker 1: these guys, So join us three and esh our guy

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Speaker 1: will be helping us with no Bus, so that'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: That's one pm Eastern. That link is in the show

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Speaker 1: notes the link to help out and donate to Task

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Speaker 1: and his family as his long and lengthy recorder road

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Speaker 1: to recovery. That's also in the show notes. And thanks

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Speaker 1: everybody that's already donated. It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: So we will see you next week here in the

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Speaker 1: No Dunks Classic Factory for basketball. We'll see you for

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Speaker 1: No Bus a little bit later. Until then, Clipper bros,

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Speaker 1: you heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys awesome. Thanks for joining us, and remember

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Speaker 2: I do not do not support you wearing black socks

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Speaker 2: with short pants.

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Speaker 1: Brace of Day people.