1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast O. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Welcome inn Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 3: I hope all of you are having fantastic Thursdays wherever 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: you may be around the country or around the world. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: We are here to hang with you and have a 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: fantastic time. Over the next three hours. Lots to dive 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: into Buck. In particular, the testimony yesterday from the irs 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 3: whistleblowers almost completely buried in left wing media. And you 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: might wonder why is that significant? Because over half of 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: Democrats still believe that the Hunter Biden laptop was Russian 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: disinformation and that it's not real. And a big part 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 3: of that is because they don't cover actual factual hearings 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: under oath buried on I believe page sixteen of the 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: New York Times, not on the CNN website at all. 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: MSNBC elected not to come, by and large, if you 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: are someone who doesn't watch Fox News, or you're someone 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: who doesn't listen to Clay and Buck, there's a huge 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: segment of the American population that has no clue about 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: what's been going on with the Hunter Biden crime family. 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: And I think that's by design and Buck right off 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: the top. I want to share this story because I 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: think I don't know how much attention it's going to get, 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: but I think it should be massively important. And I'm 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: citing here the House Oversight Committee, the Weaponization Committee. They 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: have shared a letter that they sent to Christopher Ray 27 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: today and they now have an FBI employee testifying under 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: oath that the FBI knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real, 29 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 3: and they decline to tell the social media companies that 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: it was real, and so someone made that decision. And 31 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: there actually is testimony here that I think is really 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: interesting associated with this, Buck, where they say I don't 33 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 3: know exactly who made this decision not to notify all 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: of these social media companies that the Hunter Biden laptop 35 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: was in fact real. And this is probably the number 36 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: one question Buck. If we had Christopher Ray on this show. 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: There are a lot of questions that I would love 38 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: to be able to ask him on this program, love 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: to be able to ask him in general, but to me, 40 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: the number one story because the FBI claims that they 41 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: were working in concert with social media companies to try 42 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: and ensure that there was no misinformation surrounding the twenty 43 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: twenty election, and that's why they were having all these 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: briefings with Facebook and Instagram and Twitter. But in reality, 45 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 3: they allowed the most significant and effective misinformation tool in 46 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: modern political history, that letter by the fifty one agents. 47 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 3: They allowed that to be put out and they knew 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: it was one hundred percent false. 49 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: Do you want me to order? The code read? 50 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? I was gonna say, you want me to put 51 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: on my bureaucrat hat here until you. 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Have this all goes down and the code read there 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 2: this is there's. 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: First of all, there's no there's not one person. That's 55 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: always by committee, and that's on purpose. It's always a 56 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 4: room full of people that work at these places who 57 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: make these determinations. It's not one person, even if it's 58 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 4: the very top of the organization. Let's say the FBI 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: director in this case, he'd have I don't know FBI 60 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: hierarchy that well, and the CIA hierarchy better, but he'd have, 61 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: you know, his deputy director, and he'd have some assistant 62 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: directors and a legal aid or legal advisor or whatever, 63 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: and they would sit around that they would make a 64 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: determination about something like this. They would do it without 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: doing it over email. They wouldn't text each other about it. 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: They would make sure there's no If they're smart, that's 67 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: always an If they'd make sure there's no electronic record, 68 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: how will they justify this in front of Congress? And 69 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: this is why you know, it's so frustrating, Clay, because 70 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: I think back to and I know I bring this 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: up and people say. 72 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: What, what's why is this similar? 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: The whole point of what happened with the coverup of 74 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: Benghazi was they had to keep it quiet and lie 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 4: about it until after the election because they knew if 76 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 4: Obama got reelected, nothing was going to happen. That's why 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 4: I remember Candy Crowley, you know, basically through a metaphorical 78 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: block like on a football field for Obama when Mitt Romney, 79 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: crazy as it is, was pinning him down on did 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: you say that this was a terrorist attack? And you know, 81 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 4: Candy Crowley of CNN got in there she said, oh, sir, 82 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: he actually did say it. I knew the whole thing, 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: and the media all lied about that, Clay, and the 84 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: establishment lied about it. They knew the lie couldn't hold. 85 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: But the point was just keep it from having political 86 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 4: co consequences until we're in charge, and then it becomes 87 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: what are you going to do about it? Because that's 88 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 4: what we saw in the Bengazi hearings. Oh my gosh, 89 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: look at all the incompetence, look at the cover up, 90 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: look at and we had members of Congress pounding the 91 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: table and saying, oh my gosh, Hillary Clinton, this is terrible. 92 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: Secretary of State. Didn't lose, you know, didn't lose your job, 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: got to run for president. Afterwards, Barack Obama continued, the 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 4: problem here with this system is everything that we are 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 4: now looking at, everything that we are uncovering. I'm not 96 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: saying it's not worthwhile to get the truth. It's always 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: worthwhile to get the truth, but we have to gauge 98 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: what we think realistically the consequences will be right. Yeah, 99 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: nothing is going to happen to anybody in the FBI 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 4: based on any of these whistleblowers. While Joe Biden as 101 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: president take it to the bank everybody. Nothing will happen 102 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: to any of them. No one's getting fired. Now. I 103 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: know you know this, Clay, but this is where we 104 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: get into. If we want to deal with these problems, 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 4: we have to win, which I know is the whole 106 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: point of your book. 107 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: And that's, you know, that's the we have. 108 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: To win because merely pointing at them with these congressional 109 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 4: hearings again, not that we shouldn't do them, but I'm 110 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 4: just gauging the expectations or a preps lowering expectations and saying. 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: You guys, you were so unfair in the FBI. 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: It's almost like you wanted Joe Biden to win the 113 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: election three years ago, which they did. Right, So we're, 114 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: you know, everything you and I talk about here, all 115 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: of the data, all of the facts back this up. 116 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 4: But then we get to then this is why I 117 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: asked him, Jordan Yesterda, I'm like, so, what actually happens here? 118 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: What actually comes of any of this? And I say, 119 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: it's just because I think it has to be a 120 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: point of motivation for if you're a Trump person or 121 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: you're a Vivek or your Desanders or whomever, you need 122 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: your guy to win, Nikki Haley, gal, you need a 123 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: Republican to win, because otherwise it just turns into what 124 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: are you going to do about it? 125 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, we needed to help Biden win And that is just. 126 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: The baseline, uncomfortable, enraging reality of this. They look at 127 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 4: us now and they say, yeah, that's right. Of course 128 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 4: we suppressed this to help Joe Biden. Remember the line, 129 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: what was the Harry Reid line? Clay with Mitt Romney's 130 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: taxes just made up a total lie about Mit romneys taxes. 131 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: When he's asked about it, Harry Reid said he didn't win, 132 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: did he. That's how the demo. That's actually the most 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: important thing Harry Reid ever said about politics, that one line, 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: because that's the mentality. It's the mentality of the deep 135 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: state operatives and the Democrat Party. And I think that's 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: what we see with all these whistleblowers. 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: Here is the testimony that I wanted to hit in 138 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: particular because I do think there is a value in 139 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 3: having it on the record under oath, because it's harder 140 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: to be able to say, oh, this is all just misinformation, 141 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: this is all this is all conspiracy theory. Somebody from Twitter, 142 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: this is right after the Hunter Biden New York Post 143 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: story came out. Somebody from Twitter on a call with 144 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: the FBI essentially asked whether the laptop was real, and 145 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: one of the FBI folks who was on the call 146 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: did confirm that yes, it was before another participant jumped 147 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: in and said no further comment, and so no comment 148 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 3: became the FBI standard as they were talking to all of. 149 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: These all these tech companies. 150 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: But I do think it goes to the essence here, Buck, 151 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: which is and this is what I would like, And 152 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: you're right, it's super frustrating to know all of this 153 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: and also see that there are no consequences for it. 154 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: And even worse, I would say. 155 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 3: Buck, than no consequences is the consequences are actually on 156 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: the side that didn't do the wrong right. They're trying 157 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: to censor the side that actually has been telling more 158 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: of the truth, and they're trying to do it in 159 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: the name of misinformation, which is such a deceitful act 160 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: that it is incredibly infuriating. But having it on the 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: record that the FBI one hundred percent Newgle laptop was real, 162 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: that they chose not to comment on it, there is 163 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 3: no way to justify that. I've never really seen Christopher 164 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: Ray get grilled on this, because if you truly care 165 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: about trying to clean up misinformation, the FBI aided and 166 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: abetted the most successful misinformation campaign in probably modern American 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: political history. 168 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: What the Oversight Committee here on weaponization is doing is 169 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: a necessary step. I'm not saying it's it's a waste 170 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: of time. To your point, getting them on the record 171 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: and getting the facts on the record under oath is 172 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: critical so that going forward at least when we talk 173 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: about this, there's a better chance. Still a lot of 174 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 4: people aren't gonna believe it. As you know that there 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: are a lot of people still think the laptop is 176 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: Russian disinformation or whatever. But the way this has meaning 177 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: or impact, the way that this has consequences, is by 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 4: showing people just how grotesquely part is in the upper 179 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: reaches of the FBI and the intelligence community were in 180 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty. You may be able to convince enough people 181 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 4: who are persuadable to put power in the hands of 182 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: Republicans and a Republican, particularly in the presidency, who will 183 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: do something about it, because other than that, nothing's happening. 184 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Right. 185 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 4: That's just the key recognition I think we all have 186 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: to have. It raises the stakes. It's not a call 187 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 4: to oh, what are we gonna do? It's guys, I 188 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: can assure anybody of this. You think there's gonna be 189 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 4: any consequence if Biden gets reelected or whatever, you know, 190 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: Kamala Biden, I mean some who knows how this is 191 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: all going to play out. But if the Biden regime 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: in some form limps across the finish line here to 193 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, there'll be no consequences political or otherwise 194 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: for any of this. 195 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: You know what. 196 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 4: That's what I mean, it's it's a This is why 197 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: it's so important to focus on this because what they 198 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: did in twenty twenty, it's so good to your point 199 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: a second ago, you just shut it down. They're getting 200 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 4: all this disinformation, they're grabbing people. 201 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: Forget this. Comy as much as he. 202 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: Was trying to be the center of the stage in 203 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, and he stood in front of everybody and said, 204 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: I mean, just a quick review here everyone. The Attorney 205 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 4: general did some weird meeting on a private plane with 206 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: the wife of the Democrat front runner and nominee Hillary Clinton. 207 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: Sat down with Bill Clinton and said that they talked 208 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: about their grandchildren on a private plane and excuse their 209 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: security details for that conversation. Yeah, no one believes that, right, 210 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: But then James Comy comes forward and says nobody would 211 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: prosecute Well, that's not true. A lot of prosecutors came 212 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: forward and said they would prosecute, but even Comy a 213 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 4: few weeks after that, I think he just wanted some attention. 214 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: Remember he had that quick announcement of we're reopening into 215 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: the Hillary laptop and everyone said, uh huh, because it's 216 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: really Comys. He was more obsessed with himself than anything else. 217 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: The FBI in this case was just doing the opposite, 218 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: which was burying. The first time around. They were saying, 219 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: if we don't tell everybody about this, it'll look like 220 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: we're being partisans. This time around is we can't tell 221 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: anybody about this because it'll look like we're being partisans. Somehow, 222 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: it always benefits Democrats. It is interesting the way this 223 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: story has played out, and I do wonder on the 224 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: historical record. To your point, if Biden wins in twenty 225 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: four there are no consequences, right or if Biden steps 226 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: down and another Democrat wins, there will be no consequences. 227 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 4: This whole story will just kind of vanish. I am 228 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: really fascinated to know how this entire era's story will 229 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: be covered in history. And I ask you this too, Clay, 230 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: put yourself in the mindset of the what was it 231 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: fifty one. I forget the number, now, fifty one people 232 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: who won fifty one. Do you think a single one 233 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: of them regrets doing it? I'm not saying is annoyed 234 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: they've gotten here from people like you and me. Do 235 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: you think any of them regret what they did at 236 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: that point in time? 237 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: No, because they to your point with Harry Reid, they 238 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: got the result that they wanted exactly, and they would 239 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: do it again, and they would do it again. But 240 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: I do think, I mean, to me, the staggering part here, 241 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: Buck is just how well it worked and how well 242 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: it still worked because a majority of Democrat voters still 243 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: believe that the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation. 244 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 4: How deep into the Trump the Trump administration did they 245 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: believe that Russia hacked into voting machines. There were Democrats 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: who believed that Tushia. It was huge numbers, and it 247 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: was like three years into the Trump presidency they were 248 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 4: still saying this stuff was crazy. 249 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think this story under oath FBI 250 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: agent saying yes, we knew the Hunter Biden laptop was real. 251 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: That's the first time I can remember seeing an FBI 252 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: agent under oath say that, and then telling the story 253 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: that they officially decided that their policy was going to 254 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: be no comment on whether that laptop was real, which 255 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: means they allowed, which meant they allowed the Biden administration 256 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: to lie about this when they knew that the lie 257 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: was going on, which directly resulted I really do believe 258 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: in Joe Biden's election strip everything else that was going 259 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: on away. 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Again, 280 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: Dial pound two five zero, say Clay and Buck and 281 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 3: make the switch to Pure Talk today. 282 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Inspiring you to seek out the truth the Clay Travis said, 283 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton show. 284 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: Okay, we got some big stuff coming down right now 285 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: from the House Oversight Committee. They have released this This 286 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: just breaking in the last well this earlier this hour, 287 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 4: and it is confidential human source reporting. So this is 288 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: a f what is it, FD ten twenty three, And 289 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: there's a lot in here, but here's some of the 290 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: here's some of the most interesting stuff that we can 291 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: look at. The confidential human source told Zlotyzewski that any 292 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: payments to the Bidens would compliment complicate matters, and Barisma 293 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: should hire some normal US oil and gas advisors because 294 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 4: the Bidens, notice it's plural, have no experience with that 295 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: business sector. Zlatchevski made some comment that although Hunter Biden 296 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 4: was stupid and his dog was smarter, they needed to 297 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: keep Hunter Biden on the board so everything would be okay. 298 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: They both deal with Shokuns. Oh, here we go, they 299 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: both chs reiterated, there's a lot in here, folks, I'm 300 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: moving as we go. Zlowski was making a mistake and 301 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: he should fire Hunter Biden and deal with Shokun's investigation 302 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 4: directly so that the matter will remain an issue in 303 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: Ukraine and not turn into some international matter. Zlatzowski responded 304 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: to the effect of, don't worry, this thing will go 305 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: away anyway. Hmm, why is that confidential? Humans replied that 306 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: notwithstanding Chokun's investigation, it was still a bad decision for 307 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 4: Beresma to spend twenty to thirty million dollars to buy 308 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: a US business and that the source didn't want to 309 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: be involved with the Biden matter. Galatzewski responded that he'd 310 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: appreciated advice, but it's too late to change the decision, 311 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 4: and he understood this to mean that Zlotzewski had already 312 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: paid the bidens to deal with Choken. Do we have 313 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 4: the audio I mentioned this yesterday. Do we have a guys, 314 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: we do. This was at the Council on Foreign Relations 315 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 4: some years ago, and here is Joe Biden mouthing off 316 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 4: about how when he was VP, he decided he had 317 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 4: to get tough with a certain prosecutor. 318 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: Play it. 319 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 5: I went over the twelve thirteenth time to Kiev and 320 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 5: I was supposed to announce that there was another billion 321 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 5: dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from 322 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 5: Porshenko and from Yacht that they would take action against 323 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 5: the state prosecutor. And they didn't. So they said they 324 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 5: had They were walking out to press cont I said no. 325 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 5: I said, I'm not going to or we're not going 326 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 5: to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have 327 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: no authority, you're not the president. The president said, I said, 328 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 5: call him. I said, I'm telling you're not getting a 329 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 5: billion dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion. I'm 330 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: going to be leaving here. And I think it was 331 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 5: what six hours. I look at I Said'm leaving the 332 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 5: six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting 333 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 5: the money. Oh, son of a bitch got. 334 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: Fired, Clay. 335 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: If the corruption prosecutor Choken isn't fired. You're not getting 336 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 4: a billion US dollars the FBI. 337 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: This didn't just come. 338 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: This isn't like someone just called into a tip line 339 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: years ago had a confidential human source that they had 340 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: vetted and trusted who said they paid the Bidens millions 341 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 4: to do what fire the corruption prosecutor looking at Barisma. 342 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: We just laid this out yesterday, and today this drops. 343 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's smoking gun evidence. Biden should be in 344 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 3: a sell? 345 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: Is what this? 346 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: Biden should be in a sell everybody. I mean, if 347 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: we had a serious justice system, the guy would be 348 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 4: in prison. 349 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: Ten million dollars to force a prosecutor to get fired. 350 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: He got paid, and then he refuses to give a 351 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 3: billion dollars of American your taxpayer dollars to the to 352 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: the Ukrainian interest unless they fire this prosecutor. 353 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is treason. 354 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: This is pretty clear evidence of bribery and treason his 355 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 3: behavior by Joe Biden. And let me just mention this 356 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: buck That recording is from what twenty eighteen? How much 357 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: better does Biden sound speaking in twenty eighteen than he 358 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: does today? Leave aside the bribery, the trees and everything 359 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: else for we just listen to him talk and tell 360 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: that story in five years time, he's gone from someone 361 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: whose brain sounded like it worked fairly well. He doesn't 362 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: sound at all like the Joe Biden who was talking 363 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen today. That's what stood out, beyond the 364 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 3: fact that he's bragging about taking a bribe and getting 365 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 3: action undertaken by the government. And remember, this is what 366 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: they impeached Donald Trump for asking about on the phone 367 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: call with Zelenski. So not only did Biden so far 368 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: escape all consequences for, according to this taking ten million dollars, 369 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: five million to him, five million to Hunter, they. 370 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 2: Impeached Trump for asking about it. 371 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: They didn't do anything to Biden, and Trump got impeached 372 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: for asking about it and asking Ukraine to look into it. 373 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: Now a big question here, for I would love to 374 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: have Bill bar On with us right now. 375 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: What did they do? Why is this not seriously investigated? 376 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: When do you have an allegation that a vice president 377 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: longtime serving senator was taking millions of dollars in payments. 378 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: There's a braggadocio quality to these allegations where the guy 379 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: says we wired it so many different ways you'll never 380 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: be able to track down all these dollars. I mean, 381 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: that's part of the bragging associated with how these payments 382 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: got there. 383 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: And what did the FBI do with this information? Can 384 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: I just point something out that's money laundering? Of course, 385 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: people go to prison for as a felony for many 386 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 4: years hiding a bribe through money laundering. The laundering itself 387 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: is an additional charge, and you are covering up another felony, 388 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: which is the bribe in the first place in this case, 389 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: or it could be depends when is it is in office, 390 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 4: what are the promises made? But even still hiding it 391 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: via wire transfer from the IRS is still money laundring. 392 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 4: And so you look at this and you say, how 393 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 4: much more clear could it actually be? You know what 394 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, what else? How much more smoke from 395 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 4: the gun can we see? Before we can all agree 396 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 4: that something happened here? 397 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: Think about how seriously the FBI took small snippets of 398 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 3: allegations about Russia collusion, right, like just tiny little tips 399 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: that obviously were not merited in any way, but they 400 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 3: treated it like Donald Trump was the Manchurian candidate. 401 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: Papadopolis was sitting at a bar and said something based 402 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: on Internet chatter which a lot of people were hearing 403 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: at that time, and they opened a full field FBI 404 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: investigation and then went after Carter Page and opened up 405 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 4: phizes and when for multiple phizes when they knew that 406 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: what they were doing was wrong, because they figured, well, 407 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 4: we can knock Trump out with this. 408 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: Well, hid in the warrants to be able to get 409 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: the PISA warrants. 410 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: And then when we try to do something about the 411 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 4: guy who lied in the warrant and prosecute him, guess 412 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: what a DC jury did. Everybody not guilty because he 413 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 4: was going after Trump. Important lesson there about DC criminal 414 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: juries in anything involving Donald Trump, especially as we have 415 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: the very high likelihood of j six's indictment against Trump 416 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: dropping tomorrow or next week. But it's going to be days, 417 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 4: It's going to be in a matter of days now, 418 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: could be tomorrow, And just think about this. 419 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: In addition to this, this executive claims that he has 420 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: fifteen recordings discussing these payments with Hunter and two recordings 421 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: discussing these payments with Joe. If those audio files exist, 422 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 3: we're talking about smoking gun evidence. Because you just heard 423 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 3: us play Biden bragging about getting a prosecutor fired. But 424 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: if those seventeen conversations exist, my goodness. I mean, I 425 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: don't understand how Joe Biden isn't immediately facing impeachment in 426 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 3: the House. Now you can say, well, it doesn't matter. 427 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: Nobody's going to remove Joe Biden from office in the Senate. 428 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 3: But again, tons of people don't know about these stories 429 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: we're telling you. 430 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: Lots of people don't know. 431 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: From twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen hundred, Biden and his 432 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 4: firm earned over ten million dollars for legal advice for 433 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: a foreign Ukrainian company. If and this looks pretty clear, 434 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 4: if that money was funneled to Joe Biden while he's 435 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: vice president to demand the firing of a prosecutor, a 436 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: corruption prosecutor. That is bright line cross bribery stuff. And 437 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 4: then you have the money and everything else, right, I. 438 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: Mean, it's treason too to be doing the bidding of 439 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: a foreign government in exchange for money, wouldn't it be? 440 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: I need to look at an it's not. It's not. 441 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 4: I mean, treesing is aid and comfort to the enemy 442 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 4: in a time of war. I don't think we consider 443 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: Ukraine it was not on a war with them, so 444 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: legally it might be. I don't think you get to that. 445 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 4: But it is a betrayal of Is it a betrayal 446 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: of the United States? 447 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: Yes? I mean is it on an ethical level? Yeah, 448 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: it's a high crime, and it's it's a high crist yes, easily. Yeah. So, 449 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: but Joe Biden's gonna be the nominee. We'll see, we'll see. 450 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm still sticking to my I'm still 451 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: sticking to my script. Are you getting nervous about him 452 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 2: being the nominee? 453 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bet my 454 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: Uh you know, I'm not gonna bet the the farm 455 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 4: on this one, if you know what I mean. 456 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: I think new place, and you're not gonna put the 457 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: new place in Miami? 458 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 4: How long the new apartment on the line on this one, 459 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: I think there could be some interesting stuff. I still 460 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: think it's gonna be Biden, to be clear, but I'm 461 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 4: feeling a little shaky right now. Look, this just happened 462 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 4: to me the other day. This happens a lot. 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Or call 510 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: one eight hundred LifeLock. 511 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck twenty four to seven subscribe today. 512 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 513 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 514 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: roll into the third hour of the program, and we 515 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: are having a fabulous time. And we are joined now 516 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: by the first guest of the day. And I've been 517 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: told that her husband has spectacular taste in radio. I 518 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: am a monster fan. We're talking to Kim Strassel. She's 519 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 3: got a new book, The Biden Malaise, How America bounces 520 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: back from Joe Biden's dismal repeat of the Jimmy Carter Years. 521 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 3: You are a Kim columnist and editorial board member of 522 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal, and I'm gonna fangirl out here 523 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 3: a little bit. I absolutely love the editorial page is 524 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: of the Wall Street Journal. I've said this on the 525 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: show before. Kim, I think the two most trusting and 526 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: important pages that are produced in American media every day 527 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: are your editorials, and then all the op eds that 528 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: you guys run. I always thought that, but the willingness 529 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: that you all had to put out truthful analysis during 530 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: COVID was so I felt on a lot of times 531 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: like I was walking in a desert and every now 532 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 3: and then would just get to drink from an actual 533 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: oasis because it was so rare. So thanks for all 534 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: that you guys have done. Tell us about the book. 535 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, let me fanboy back to you. 536 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 6: I am a huge fan and as I mentioned as well, 537 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 6: every day my husband walks into my office and said, 538 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: you want to know what clam Buck just said, So 539 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 6: he is a fan. 540 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 2: Never missed it. 541 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 6: So the book is essentially a comparison of the Jimmy 542 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 6: Carter and Joe In years, and it goes through the 543 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 6: kind of eerie similarities between those two administrations separated by 544 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 6: forty four years, and there's a lot right inflation, high 545 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 6: energy prices, foreign policy debacles, problems at the border, high crime. 546 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 6: The list goes on. But the central premise of the 547 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 6: book is that that comparison is fundamentally unfair to Jimmy Carter. 548 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 4: Now tell us why? Yeah, so in what way? People 549 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: have been making that comparison for years? 550 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 551 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 7: Okay, So here's why it's unfair. 552 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 6: I think it's both a question of what they inherited 553 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 6: and also intent. So Jimmy Carter was dealt a much 554 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 6: tougher hand. 555 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 7: All right. 556 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 6: We already had the Great Inflation raging around the globe, 557 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 6: We'd had a world oil shock, we had the Cold War. 558 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 6: He inherited high crime rates. This is in star contrast 559 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 6: to Joe Biden, who was dealt a pretty awesome hand, 560 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 6: yet an economy that was just about to round the 561 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 6: corner and come blare blasting out of COVID. We had 562 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 6: just a couple of years prior to his taking office 563 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 6: become a net exporter of fossil fuels. Crime was not 564 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 6: necessarily an issue at that time. The border certainly doesn't 565 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 6: look anything like it does now. And so my argument 566 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 6: being is that he took a good situation and managed 567 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 6: to destroy it essentially. But the other argument is that 568 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 6: is intent and that Jimmy Carter. 569 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 7: The rap on him. 570 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 6: He had a bad he inherited a bad situation, but 571 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 6: he was well meaning, he was just incompetent and he 572 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 6: was engulfed. 573 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 7: By a series of crises. 574 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: Fundamentally, this was not a guy, though, who wanted bad 575 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 6: things to happen in the country or who wanted to 576 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 6: turn us into a European style social welfare state. That's 577 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 6: in contrast, I think to Joe Biden, who's been very 578 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 6: deliberate in these policies, in the spending for new entitlement programs, 579 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 6: in this climate agenda, which is really squelchingtic industry, and 580 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 6: these are all being done for ideological goals even though 581 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 6: they're causing real economic harm. 582 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 2: Hey, Kim, it's buck. Thanks for being with us. 583 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: The book that Kim Strassele has is The Biden Malaise, 584 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 4: which is just out of Everyone should check it out, Kim. 585 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 4: Something we talk about often here is are the Democrats 586 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: all in when push comes to shove? Are they all 587 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: in on Biden two point zero at eighty something years 588 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: of age, or do you think you've written a book 589 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 4: on this, You've looked deep into all things Biden. Do 590 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: you think that there's either a threshold that they could 591 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 4: pass in the next six months or have they already 592 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 4: passed it where they really are scrambling to come up 593 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: with some kind of a plan. 594 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 6: B fifty to fifty. I think there's a fifty to 595 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: fifty chance somebody gets in still to challenge them. Look, 596 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 6: one thing I've always given Democrats they have a lot 597 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 6: more discipline than Republicans do. They're far more unified. That's 598 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 6: a good thing and a bad thing in my mind, 599 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 6: better for them on politics, not better for the country 600 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 6: in terms of policy. But you know, they have decided 601 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 6: that they're going to stick with their horse, They're not 602 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 6: going to abandon them. 603 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 7: But it's very difficult. 604 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 6: I do not see how you could be a Democrat 605 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 6: looking at at the wrecking ball that is becoming the 606 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,719 Speaker 6: White House and this president and his performance and not 607 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 6: be very very nervous. 608 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 7: And I think that's why you said. 609 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 6: I mean, look, Gavin Newsom essentially is a is a 610 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 6: presidential candidate in waiting. 611 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 7: He's all but out there in a campaign. He's just waiting. 612 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna if we have some sort of 613 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 6: crisis in the White House, if he has some sort 614 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 6: of health. 615 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 7: Scare, if there's some moment of like. 616 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 6: Really bad a bad call that really reflects badly and 617 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 6: the polls go even lower, that might be the moment. 618 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: Kim I said that I super trust everything that you 619 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 3: guys do at the Wall Street Journal, and I'm curious 620 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: how you would assess the other coverage that you see 621 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: and Buck can I talk a lot about one of 622 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: the biggest and this goes for our show too, but 623 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 3: certainly any media entity, one of the biggest decisions, maybe 624 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: the biggest decision. 625 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: Is what do you cover? 626 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: And then when you cover something, how do you feature it? 627 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: How do you help distribute it so that people become 628 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: aware of it. We were talking earlier in the show 629 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: about the Irs whistleblowers and their report. I actually looked 630 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 3: because I'm old, old man. Still I like to get 631 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: the newspaper. I believe the New York Times buried at 632 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: bottom of page sixteen. One reason I like the physical 633 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: newspaper is it allows you to see editorial judgment. I 634 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: think the Wall Street Journal had it on page four, 635 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: page five. Do you think when you see the way 636 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 3: that the New York Times and the Washington Post. I 637 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: used to read those newspapers all the time I went 638 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: to school in DC. They were left leaning, but there 639 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 3: wasn't a willful blindness in the way that they covered things. 640 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem to me twenty years ago, is that 641 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: a business imperative is in an editorial imperative. What do 642 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: you think has happened to those two newspapers. I think 643 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: that the Wall Street Journal has not fallen victim to 644 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 3: I'm just curious with you, as an inside view, how 645 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 3: you would assess it. 646 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 6: I would assess it as an abdication of editorial leadership. 647 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 7: Look, if you. 648 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 6: Look around at the media, and I've been in this 649 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 6: industry a long time, you guys have, there's always been 650 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 6: a left leaning stance. Journalism tends to attract left leaning 651 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 6: save the world, do gooder types. They often come out 652 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 6: of the same environments, the same universities. But we always 653 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 6: relied on an older generation of editors to kind of 654 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 6: knock that out of them and preserve the tradition of 655 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 6: newspapers trying to come across as nonpartisan and trying to 656 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 6: cover the news fair and equally and put the right 657 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 6: emphasis on the right topics. 658 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 7: Those editors have either left or they have. 659 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 6: Been cowed by an increasingly progressive liberal staff that have 660 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 6: come in. And this was aided by Donald Trump's election 661 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 6: because they essentially told themselves, hey, we are now morally 662 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 6: entitled to get to be biased because we're doing good 663 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 6: for the country by trying to stop a supposed bedding authoritarian. 664 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 6: They told themselves this, and it's now become mantra in 665 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 6: these newspapers. They really truly believe that they are practicing 666 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 6: journalism instead of just pure advocacy, which is what's happening. 667 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 4: Now, Kim, you think that there's any chance at all 668 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 4: that I mean, going forward here we're seeing multiple federal 669 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 4: criminal trials, or at least well one federal already and 670 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: soon to be announced, probably another one a New York 671 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 4: City criminal trial, all these things against Trump. Is there 672 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 4: any chance in your mind that some of the independent, 673 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 4: some of the swing voters and that middle tranch of 674 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 4: the country ideologically is going to realize how crazy that 675 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 4: actually is. I feel like they've been fed a lot 676 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: of January sixth and Trump and it's all so awful. 677 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 4: But we're going into this period where there's going to 678 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 4: be at least I think four, if not five acutions, 679 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 4: whether civil all the way up to federal criminal of 680 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 4: Donald Trump in an election year where he's the top 681 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 4: nominee based on polling right now. 682 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really shocking, and you know, I think that 683 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,959 Speaker 6: one of the reasons that this narrative has taken hold again, 684 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 6: it goes back to the media, which for the past 685 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 6: six years has been normalizing radical behavior, right. I mean, 686 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 6: we constantly get told that it was Donald Trump who 687 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 6: broke norms as standards, It's nothing compared to what the 688 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 6: Democrats have done on a daily basis since he took office. 689 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 7: You know. 690 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 6: Now, apparently impeachment is something that's just run of the mill. 691 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 6: Now it's apparently okay for the Department of Justice to 692 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 6: indict the former president of the United States on multiple occasions. Look, 693 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 6: I'm really hopeful that there is a middle section of 694 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 6: the country who understands the terrible precedents that are being 695 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 6: set here. And you know, part of this is going 696 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 6: to come down to and what I think is the 697 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 6: fatal flaw. Jack Smith, I have always argued, you're going 698 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 6: to go down this road and do a first and 699 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 6: indet a former president, you better have the most rock 700 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 6: solid case ever. You better not be going out on 701 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 6: a limb with dubious legal theories and a case where 702 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 6: you're still not sure you can get a jury to go. 703 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 6: If you can't convince ninety percent of your country that 704 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 6: you had a case that was so serious you need 705 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 6: to take this step. 706 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 7: That's where I think they could end up losing some people. 707 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 6: And you know, I think that's likely because if you 708 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 6: look at what we're hearing he's going to run these 709 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 6: cases on, it doesn't look very solid to me. It 710 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 6: looks like a lot of unexplored legal territory that again 711 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 6: is going to be a first and I think it 712 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 6: could be hard to convince people. 713 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 3: All right, So you have drawn a lot of historical 714 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,959 Speaker 3: analogies between Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden. Here Jimmy Carter 715 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 3: led to Ronald Reagan. Is there anybody that you see 716 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: on the republic inside right now that you think could 717 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 3: have Reagan like qualities? And what I think is so 718 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 3: fascinating about Jimmy Carter on the historical analogy is you 719 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 3: can say that as Carter was elected because of Watergate 720 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 3: in the fallout, I actually think Biden was elected primarily 721 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: because of COVID, and I think he would have lost 722 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: if COVID doesn't happen. Leave aside everything else, I think 723 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: Trump the economy would have been great. I think Trump 724 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 3: would have won comfortably in twenty but for covid, what 725 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 3: is the optimistic thing if you're going to build, Because 726 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: I do think most people would say coming out of 727 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter, the eighties and nineties were pretty fantastic for 728 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: most people in America, all the way up to nine 729 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: to eleven, when we obviously had that national tragedy, but 730 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 3: we had twenty years, an entire generation where a lot 731 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: of people who are listening to us right now. Buck myself, 732 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 3: your husband probably grew up in the eighties and nineties 733 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: and kind of thought America was awesome, And we just 734 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: argued over who thought America was the best in our 735 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: presidential elections instead of America's the awful, systemically racist, despot 736 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 3: country that many Democrats seem to think it is today. 737 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, boy, I loved those years, and I completely agree 738 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 6: with everything you say. This is a big part of 739 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 6: the book pointing out what came after Jimmy Carter. And 740 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 6: it wasn't just that Ronald Reagan managed to win that 741 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 6: election with a message of hope, by the way, with 742 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 6: a policy agenda that was way different than what Republicans 743 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 6: had offered before, but was very solid in its own right. 744 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 6: He didn't just win that election, he changed electoral politics 745 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 6: as you know for a generation. And the reason this 746 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 6: is so important is, I Drew believe we're at a 747 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 6: similar moment now. There is an enormous backlash, just like 748 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 6: in the Carter years, to the policies that you've seen 749 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 6: coming out of this White House. You've already seen some 750 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 6: demographic shifts on the ground. 751 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 7: Certain voters, in particular. 752 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 6: Minorities were becoming more and more disenchanted with Democratic policies. 753 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 7: What the Republican. 754 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 6: Party needs at the moment, and I sure hope they 755 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 6: realize this is they go to do their primary voting 756 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 6: is somebody who I think a has a really solid 757 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 6: policy agenda more along the lines of Reaganism, because we 758 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 6: know it works, think about those. 759 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 7: Great years you were talking about, but also. 760 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 6: Is optimistic and wants to talk a bit about how 761 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 6: great this country is, and also wants to invite into 762 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 6: the party those who feel alienated by the Democratic Party, 763 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 6: and that means not necessarily in some of these huge 764 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 6: cultural issues, imposing litmus tests. 765 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 4: The author is our friend Kim Strassel. The book is 766 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: The Biden Malays, How America bounces back from Joe Biden's 767 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 4: dismal repeat of the Jimmy Carter Years, even though it. 768 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 2: Is worse than the Jimmy Carter Years. Thank you so much, Jenna. 769 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: Great to have you with it. 770 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 7: Thank you guys, Thank you. I have a great day, 771 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 7: my friend. 772 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 4: Some organizations are worth fighting for. One of those is 773 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 4: the Preborn Network of Clinics Nationwide. 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The Clay 791 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: Travis sand Buck Sexton Show. 792 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 2: Welcome Back team. 793 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 4: We're gonna get into some of the RFK pushback that 794 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 4: happened this morning on Capitol Hill. It was very interesting, 795 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 4: very interesting. Indeed, he's making more converts to RFK. 796 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 2: Junior. I was at to say the junior, you're gonna 797 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: be out doing push ups with us soon. 798 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 4: Buck, That's right, got me be you know, just gotta 799 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 4: shave the chest, get out there to Venice Beach and 800 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,720 Speaker 4: just start, you know, working on those pecks and testosterone 801 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 4: and some other things too, but still still respect to peck. So, Clay, 802 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 4: you have a big announcement for everybody. Want to let 803 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 4: you tell everybody what is going on. 804 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we all know that the first Republican primary 805 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: debate is going to be in Milwaukee on August twenty third, 806 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 3: So that is basically a month from now. I am 807 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 3: going to be doing an event the night before that 808 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 3: in Milwaukee at the Papst Theater. That's Tuesday, the twenty 809 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 3: second of August, at eight o'clock We have a monster 810 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 3: audience in Milwaukee right now listening to on eleven thirty 811 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 3: WISN News Talk. We appreciate all of you. We are 812 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: going to do. We're going to take over that theater 813 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 3: and we're going to have an awesome time. You can 814 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: get your tickets a bunch of different ways, but I 815 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: just want Milwaukee. I want all of you to know 816 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 3: Pabston Riverside box offices over the phone, online, all of 817 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 3: the info is up at clayanbuck dot com and right 818 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 3: now you've got a pre sale code of freedom only 819 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 3: good for twenty four hours to get your tickets. I 820 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 3: am told that they are going to go very fast. 821 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 3: I know, Buck, you've been up to Milwaukee. We have 822 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 3: an absolute monster audience. We'll have a lot of fun. 823 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 3: We'll be talking about the debate that will be taking 824 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 3: place the next day. And you get a copy of 825 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 3: my book that will be coming out on August eighth, 826 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 3: American Playbook, as a part of the festivities there being 827 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: in the theater. So it is fantastic, it's going to 828 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: be really fun again. You get a copy of my book, 829 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 3: you get to come watch. The tickets are available right now, 830 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 3: go get them all over the Place Paps Riverside Box Office, Tuesday, 831 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 3: August twenty second, at eight. I promise we will have 832 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 3: a really good time. So we're gonna be going to 833 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: a bunch of different cities, but this is going to 834 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 3: be a big event the night before the debate, and 835 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 3: so Milwaukee, I hope you guys will load up and 836 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 3: fill up that theater and we'll have an awesome time together. 837 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 3: And I can't wait. I've never been to Milwaukee at all, 838 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 3: so this will be my first trip trip there. 839 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 2: I bet we'll have Ali. 840 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: I think they're working on it some fun special guests 841 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 3: associated with that event too. Again, it's the night before 842 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: the big premiere Republican debate in the primary season. 843 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 4: Is Trump going to show up to great question? I 844 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 4: don't think he will. I don't think he will, and 845 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 4: that's going to be interesting. You know what does that 846 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 4: mean for debate night? 847 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: Really? 848 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 3: I think it means that Ron DeSantis is going to 849 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 3: get ripped to shreds by everybody else because they're going 850 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 3: to be going out after the assuming he's still in 851 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: second place. Everybody's going to be trying to get to 852 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 3: second place, and it's hard to attack somebody who's not there. 853 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 3: Which is why I think Trump won't be there. 854 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 4: Being a gun owner comes with both privileges and responsibilities. 855 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 4: You know, the thrill of learning to master your firearm 856 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 4: and keeping yourself trained, so your visits to the gun 857 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 4: range are exhilarating, and that's where the responsibilities come in. 858 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 4: Training is important keep your skills sharp. That's also important. 859 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 4: Getting the range can be a little harder than it sounds, 860 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 4: particularly if life is busy. 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