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Speaker 2: Donks look at us now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, I mean, get your vapes and anymergy

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Speaker 3: drinks ready, It's time to get washed. This is Morning Combat, Friday,

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Speaker 3: June sixteenth, two thousand and twenty three. I'm your co

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Speaker 3: hostess with the most I got cats all over me

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Speaker 3: here right, Sorry about that. Brian Campbell, the BBC with

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Speaker 3: that BD all alpha all the time. You know my

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Speaker 3: partner in crime. He's the best damn combat sports fight

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Speaker 3: analyst in the game. Today it's Luke Thomas and Luke.

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Speaker 3: We've had a fun couple of days. We didn't go

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Speaker 3: the Spence Crawford press tour, which we'll get to in

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Speaker 3: a bit. But we're back with a bang Friday live

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Speaker 3: belat or detailed preview on a big card tonight. UFC

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Speaker 3: Boxing will react to some Connor McGregor news and oh oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, Luke, I think we were dead wrong

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Speaker 3: a few times. This is gonna be a great show.

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Speaker 1: What did you say you were all was alpha? Alpha

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Speaker 1: all the time?

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Speaker 3: Is that it all alpha all the time? Luke? You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So that is a bold claim. That's a very bold claim.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, maybe not all the time, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you around that cat. You're not even the

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Speaker 1: alpha in that room. Motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a fair point that the animals tend to

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Speaker 3: walk all over me and assault me, Luke. But you

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Speaker 3: know I did it all for the nookie, Luke, the

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Luke?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when are you gonna euthanize this cat? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Stop that? This is Zoe. She's a very violent It's

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Speaker 3: like fatal attraction every day, Luke. But you know what

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Speaker 3: are you gonna do? Right?

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Speaker 1: Wait? I thought this was Reggie Reggie Jackson short haired.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah she will, yeah, Oh she's looking for you.

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Speaker 3: It's great anyway. The Fantastic Show today. A lot to

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Speaker 3: Minus maybe some of the distressing news coming out of Miami,

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Speaker 3: But are you fired up? Big weekend coming our way?

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Speaker 1: You know what I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 5: Tonight's Bellator is just fantastic. It's the best card of

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Speaker 5: the weekend. You know, we don't say that all the time,

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Speaker 5: It's the best card Pitbull going for history tonight. That's incredible.

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Speaker 5: Obviously we're gonna get and by the way, the return

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Speaker 5: He's been gone since that horr Gucci knockout, so that's

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's not to like there. I think

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Speaker 5: tomorrow's UFC card is not great, but Armins are Yukin's

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Speaker 3: Luke absolutely can't wait. It should be a very fun weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you I can't wait to see what discharges

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Speaker 3: Luke to figure out which communicable disease you did acquire

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Speaker 3: We all right, here we go. Topic number one is

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Speaker 5: I think the way I would answer that is that

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Speaker 5: There's not a doubt in my mind he beats Jamal Hill.

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Speaker 3: Is crazy how this world works. I know you already

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Speaker 3: know this, this little factoid, but Luke, but Nemkov's first

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Speaker 3: Yoel's story. I love his character. I love a lot

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Speaker 3: the right word. I don't know, Luke. This co main event, though,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Sergio Pettis won this championship against one Archilet by decision,

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Speaker 3: What would it mean to the great Patricio Pipull's legacy,

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Speaker 5: Where does that put him all time as best fighter

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Speaker 5: is the only way I can describe it. And so

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Speaker 5: to get on that mount rushmore of legitimacy, you have

432
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Speaker 5: to fight one of them. But Pitt Bull is just

433
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Speaker 5: probably really not going to do that, not anytime soon,

434
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Speaker 5: probably not ever. And so where does that place him

435
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Speaker 5: all time? I'll just say this, He beat Michael Chandler

436
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 5: inside of a round up a weight class. Now he's

437
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Speaker 5: going down a weight class, and if he does, he's

438
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Speaker 5: going to beat someone in his late twenties who was

439
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Speaker 5: a UFC veteran. Now he wasn't a UFC champion by

440
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Speaker 5: any stretch, but let's just see what he does with him.

441
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Speaker 5: Let's see what it looks like. To me, you know,

442
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Speaker 5: I would say, if he gets this done, BC and

443
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Speaker 5: you'll see what happens with the rest of his career.

444
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Speaker 1: It's hard to.

445
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Speaker 5: Put him in the top five all time, but I

446
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Speaker 5: would be very, very loath to put.

447
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Speaker 1: Him outside the top ten. I don't know. I think

448
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Speaker 1: he would really earn a place in immortality with a

449
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Speaker 1: one like this.

450
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Speaker 3: It's it's incredible to think about how much he can

451
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Speaker 3: make a leap her. He's already obviously the greatest fighter

452
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Speaker 3: in Belatar history, and we already respect him a ton.

453
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Speaker 3: But in a lot of times it comes down to

454
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Speaker 3: who you beat. Had you gone to another organization that

455
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Speaker 3: was considered a step down and had you beaten, you know,

456
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Speaker 3: guys that were considered second rate or third rate, that

457
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: would mean one thing. But you nailed it. He won

458
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Speaker 3: punch Ko Michael Chandler, who went on to get you know,

459
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Speaker 3: as close as you can be to being a UFC

460
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Speaker 3: champion against olivera. You know, you get my point, really close,

461
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: knocked him down, hurt him. But is a star, is

462
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Speaker 3: a pay per view headliner as an absolute stud. How

463
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: about Sergio Pettis, who's still just twenty nine, by the way,

464
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Speaker 3: with all of these layoff and injury comebacks and has

465
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Speaker 3: victories over the current UFC Flyway champion, and Brandon Marino

466
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Speaker 3: and Joseph Benavitez, who is on that short list of

467
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Speaker 3: greatest fighters in history to never have won of the

468
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Speaker 3: UFC title. So look if fad Or crashed the upper

469
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Speaker 3: room despite never in history, despite never fighting the UFC,

470
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Speaker 3: but he was on top at a point where Pride,

471
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Speaker 3: you know, arguably had had the deepest roster on the globe.

472
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Speaker 3: So that changes that nobody's done what Patricio has the

473
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Speaker 3: chance to do. And if he does it again through

474
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Speaker 3: a guy like Pettis, who's absolutely legit on the global level,

475
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Speaker 3: damn luke, does he end up in that second tier?

476
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Speaker 3: And what I mean by that second tier is there's

477
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Speaker 3: that upper room I like to talk about with the

478
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Speaker 3: names that we already know, but there's that second group

479
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Speaker 3: below them that I believe is the Jose Aldos, the

480
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 3: BJ Penns, the Max Holiday, Randy Couture, Daniel Cormier. I mean,

481
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Speaker 3: a list of absolute greatness, But there's gotta be some

482
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Speaker 3: line of demarcation. Can Pitbull crack that group here by pulling.

483
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Speaker 5: This off reputationally, It's just gonna be hard to make

484
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Speaker 5: the argument that he can, which isn't to say that

485
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 5: he wouldn't beat I don't think he'd beat Volkanowski. I

486
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: think a fight with Max might be interesting. But either way,

487
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 5: like he could knock out my Like, you, dude, who's

488
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 5: who hits okay? Of the three Pitbull, Patricio, Pitbull, Volkanowski

489
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 5: and Max, who hits the hardest? The answer is Pitbull

490
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 5: and then like by a wide margin. By like, it's

491
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Speaker 5: very wide margin. He's a much heavier handed guy than

492
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Speaker 5: both of them at one forty five, and he did

493
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Speaker 5: his power carried to what fucking one fifty five against Chandler,

494
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: Like ridiculous. I mean, the problem just is there's just

495
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 5: not enough of a frame of reference around the known

496
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Speaker 5: quantities of greatness to make the argument that he belongs

497
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Speaker 5: in that upper tier. And I know what some folks

498
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 5: are gonna say. To be seen, we should get to

499
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Speaker 5: the point of this argument, which is they're gonna say, oh, well,

500
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Speaker 5: he's only a threeway world champ because he competed in Bellator,

501
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Speaker 5: And there is little something to that, right, There is

502
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 5: a little something to the idea that a promotion not

503
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 5: like the UFC that's a little bit smaller, is going

504
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 5: to be a little bit more nimble and potentially take

505
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 5: more risks in allowing a guy to make moves around

506
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Speaker 5: like this. Right, it's you have to partly of getting

507
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 5: a third shot at a weight class is just convincing

508
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 5: a promoter to give you one when it's not really

509
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 5: in their interest because they usually have to drop another

510
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 5: belt to do it.

511
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Speaker 1: Right. So there's there's that component. So I think that

512
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Speaker 1: that's true.

513
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Speaker 5: And again you could say, well, it's relatively easier composition

514
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Speaker 5: or opposition, excuse me, and so there might be something

515
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 5: true to that. But b see, here's what we learned

516
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Speaker 5: from boxing. The guys with the biggest weight jumps are

517
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 5: in order, many Pacquiao, Oscar de la Hoya, and then

518
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 5: Floyd with eight, six and five.

519
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Speaker 1: And even with that eight.

520
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Speaker 5: It's not really real because he did one fifty four,

521
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Speaker 5: but he weighed in at one forty four to fourth.

522
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Speaker 5: So we're talking about anywhere from roughly a thirty pound

523
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Speaker 5: twenty five pounds spread for the most weight classes ever

524
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Speaker 5: accumulated against titles in boxing history, right about about thirty

525
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 5: pounds or so this this will be twenty. What I

526
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 5: really believe is going to happen here is if Pitbull

527
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 5: gets it done, it's actually going to create a bit

528
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Speaker 5: of a copycat phase, and there're gonna be a lot

529
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Speaker 5: of attempts in other organizations, including UFC, for guys to

530
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Speaker 5: get a shot at a third weight class, because if

531
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Speaker 5: boxing is an indication, it may be that that thirty

532
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 5: pounds is actually closer to what a real push through

533
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Speaker 5: weight divisions could look like if granted more opportunity. I

534
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Speaker 5: think Pitbull's going to plant a flag potentially as the

535
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Speaker 5: first one again if he wins to win three, but

536
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Speaker 5: he definitely, if he gets it done, will not be

537
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Speaker 5: the last, and that to me is the most exciting part.

538
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love the history here. Our colleague Shaquille Missouri,

539
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Speaker 3: CBS Sports. You know his shock MMA channel caught up

540
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Speaker 3: with Sergio Pettis. Let's hear his breakdown ahead of this fight.

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Speaker 7: I feel I'm gonna have the biggest advantage in the

542
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Speaker 7: stand up department, you know. I gotta, I believe, like

543
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 7: a four to five inch reach on him, and I

544
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Speaker 7: just feel like my style's a little too creative. He's

545
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Speaker 7: not gonna have the traditional cross hook low kick type

546
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Speaker 7: of thing, like he's gonna have to deal with range,

547
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 7: deal with evasions. You know, I don't get hit too often,

548
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 7: so he's gonna definitely get flustered and come a little

549
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 7: bit harder. And that's what I'm planning on. But for him,

550
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Speaker 7: you know, I feel he's gonna try to go out

551
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 7: there and use this size advantage. He's got a little

552
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Speaker 7: bit more weight on him than I'm used to, obviously,

553
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Speaker 7: But not only that. Patrecea so good every man. He

554
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 7: could take me down. He could put me against the fence.

555
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 7: He could he could stand up as well. So it's

556
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Speaker 7: just a matter and who night it is. To be honest,

557
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 7: you know, if he's on and I'm off, man, it's

558
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 7: gonna be a shitty night for me. But vice versa. Dude,

559
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 7: there you.

560
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Speaker 3: Go right there. Thank you, Shack Luke. Let's continue these conversations.

561
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Speaker 3: You had mentioned how absolutely ripped Piple is but doesn't

562
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: look deathly cut. I don't know if you know that.

563
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: After the media day there on Wednesday, Pitple talked to

564
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Speaker 3: a bunch of reporters, including an MMA junkie who broke

565
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 3: this down. Here's the quote. I can't believe how easy

566
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: this process is going down a weight class. I've been dieting.

567
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: I am only eight pounds over. It's never been easier.

568
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 3: It's easier for me making this weight than it ever

569
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: was for me at featherweight. I'm great, I'm ready. It

570
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 3: was easier, easier than ever, easier than making featherweight. I'm

571
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: ready to shock the world. What Pettis would respond to

572
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: that by saying, Pipple's getting greedy, man, I mean, he's

573
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 3: trying to make a legacy, but I think he's looking

574
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Speaker 3: past me. Luke, separate from the looking past Sergio Pettis part.

575
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Speaker 3: We're talking about a thirty five year old fighter going

576
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 3: down in wait, which is never easy. Josie Aldo just

577
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: did it recently at the very highest level, and I

578
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: commend him. Is this crazy talk to now talk about

579
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 3: the potential of him cutting ten more and trying to

580
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: seek a fourth title? What do you make of this?

581
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

582
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not sure how I will say this.

583
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 5: Part of the argument that Pettis makes that his style

584
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 5: is creative and that a guy like Pitbull, who's a

585
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: little bit more conventional that that could trip him up

586
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: at times. I think that's fair. I actually feel like

587
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 5: that's a pretty decent argument. I don't think that will

588
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 5: ultimately be so confusing for him that he can't get through. Also,

589
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 5: he's very good at slipping and countering. That's actually how

590
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 5: he got Michael Chandler right, so you know, and he

591
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: carries power, so you know he's gonna have responses too.

592
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 5: But I actually don't think that's a bad argument on

593
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 5: Pettis's part. The question is going to keep that up

594
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 5: long enough? And also here's another part too, like what's

595
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 5: gonna happen to Pitt Bull's power? But I want to

596
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: go back to it again. He was a small featherweight.

597
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 5: Look at how many times? How many times have you

598
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 5: seen Pitt Bull in a face off with an opponent

599
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 5: and the guy he's facing off against is noticeably bigger

600
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 5: with a bigger frame. Daniel Strauss, Pat Kurrent. I mean,

601
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 5: I could go on and on all these fucking guys,

602
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: all of them are like that. This is the first

603
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: time where he's slightly bigger in frame than his opponent.

604
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: He who's always been able to trend, And I think

605
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: he just didn't diet right for one forty five because

606
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 5: he didn't really need to all that hard. I guess

607
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: he had to mind his p's and q's a little

608
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 5: bit more to make one thirty five. But doing it,

609
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 5: I think he just he like unlocked a new level.

610
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 5: Like I'm not one of these guys like you know,

611
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: pack y'all started at one twelve and then worked his

612
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 5: way up like Pacchio didn't start at like one thirty

613
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 5: and then try to cut backwards and then also go

614
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: to one forty you know, one and seven. So I'm

615
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: not the biggest fan of cutting back, but I guess

616
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 5: Patricio is in a slightly different part of that conversation

617
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 5: where it's like his natural weight classes one forty five,

618
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 5: he was always on the small end there. He might

619
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 5: be one of the rare guys who could make the

620
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 5: cuts of one thirty five, but because he's such a

621
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: physical dynamo even smaller at one forty five, he can

622
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: go do promising work at one fifty five. But that's

623
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 5: a you can see, look out, look at what kind

624
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: of athletic profile and weight class profile you have to

625
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: have an MMA for all of these pieces to work.

626
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,719
Speaker 5: It's very rare, and again he has to get it

627
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 5: done tonight. We'll see if he does.

628
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but we're talking about one twenty five, Luke.

629
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Speaker 3: And just for the record, not debuted at one hundred

630
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: and eight pounds, but one is most title at one twelve.

631
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Speaker 5: Obviously, what I'm saying is he didn't start in the

632
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Speaker 5: middle and then go backwards a little bit and then

633
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Speaker 5: up a little bit.

634
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: You know.

635
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: Look, I love this type of balls he talk. I

636
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: don't know if it's realistic that pit Bull. I mean,

637
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: we gotta see him look great in this fight and win.

638
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: It is that realistic. They can cut ten more pounds.

639
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I love the balls on him, and

640
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 3: I'd like you to put respect on the captain see

641
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: and not on hold on, and not refer to him

642
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: as crazy Eric anymore. Okay, that man is a fashion icon,

643
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: a fashionista, the great Captain Eric ALBARROSSI.

644
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Luke.

645
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: I certainly do what I was gonna say was the

646
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: one thing we need to note beyond his punching power.

647
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 5: This is why him talking about cutting to one twenty five.

648
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 5: This is where you start getting into Dillashaw all levels

649
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 5: of you know, ambition, where you're just gonna, you know,

650
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 5: recklessly look past all the limits. Let's see what Pitbull's

651
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: punch resistance looks like at one thirty five against Pettis,

652
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 5: who is not necessarily a super dynamic puncher, but that

653
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 5: he could be an accurate one. Right, So let's see

654
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: like what it looks like here, because if it looks

655
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 5: at all compromised, even if he could one twenty five,

656
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: you know, it's automatically a bad idea.

657
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Let's just see first things first.

658
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: And we got one more bit of sound I want

659
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: to play here on Pettis further talking about Pitbull in

660
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: this way cut in this matchup. If guys, if you

661
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: can throw to that next one, please.

662
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 8: What kind of toll this cut down to bantam Wade

663
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 8: might take on Patio pit Bull.

664
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 7: I mean, if he didn't prep the right way, I

665
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 7: think for sure it could affect a lot for him.

666
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 7: You know, he's getting order as well. Like you said

667
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 7: thirty five, I think here's ode now and as you

668
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 7: get older, you know, it's obviously hard to lose lay.

669
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 7: I feel it as well. So yeah, when I was

670
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 7: playing at twenty five, I just felt more fragile, not

671
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 7: really believing in my body as much. And at the

672
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 7: end of the day you still fight. But I feel

673
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 7: he's ready.

674
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 8: Man.

675
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: He probably put a.

676
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 7: Lot of time and a lot of money into his

677
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 7: camp and he's gonna give himself the best possibility of

678
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 7: winning his fight. So I think he'll make weight, I

679
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 7: think he'll rehydrate, and I think we'll have no problem.

680
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: Dude, I am so fired up for this one final

681
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: bit of the soap opera part this, Luke, did you

682
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 3: hear that? You know how Pettis changed coaching staff three

683
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: years ago? He said, pit Bull brought in his old coach,

684
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 3: I'm not sure which coach he's referring to into his camp.

685
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: He said, to make mine games against me. Pettis isn't upset.

686
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: He says, it's a business. The guy's got to feed

687
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: a family. But Luke, I love when they get saucy

688
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: and juicy like that. Yeah, like, let me bring in

689
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 3: your old coach right now, let me bring in your

690
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: ex girlfriend. Okay, how about that?

691
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Right?

692
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Luke, let me let me

693
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: you know you're not into doing stuff like that, Luke,

694
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: I'll play dirty if I have to, Okay. Uh. Pippole's

695
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: final quote Luke on his spot, it.

696
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 5: Would be like, no one could do that to me,

697
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: Like no one could bring up like an ex girlfriend

698
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 5: and be like, oh yeah, look what I got going on.

699
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 5: I'd be like, dude, I don't care if that person

700
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 5: lives or dies, like enjoy you know what I'm saying.

701
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I bet you can get inside on you, Luke.

702
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: You wouldn't see it coming.

703
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: Right, I don't not you.

704
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you couldn't like Uh. I mean there's

705
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: easy ways to make fun of me. I mean, yes,

706
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: I understand that, but like, oh, I'm with your ex girl,

707
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 5: I'd be like cool brother, have I mean enjoyed right?

708
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: Uh.

709
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: Pitpoll was asked about the idea of goats and where

710
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: he would stand with a win. His quote was, there's

711
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: a lot of goats in this game, but nobody has

712
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 3: three titles. That's the difference. So ha damn am I

713
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 3: ready for this fight, Luke. It's the punching power, the

714
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: submission threat of pit Bull. We'll see how he adjusts

715
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: to this lower weight class. But the speed of Pettis

716
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Luke will be interesting. I mean, do you see that

717
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: as a gap for a sound advantage for Pettis foot

718
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: and hand speed in this one.

719
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: He is the natural one thirty five er. I expect

720
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: him to move more naturally at the weight class. Pitbull

721
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have a heavy movement based style. Anyway, he's a

722
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: he's not a bouncer, He's a step and slider. So

723
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: I think that would have naturally been the case. Let's

724
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: say they have fought a one forty five. But yes,

725
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: I do think he'll probably be quicker. He's gonna move,

726
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a little bit harder to track. It

727
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: might take some time for Pitbull to get going. The

728
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: big question for me is this, I'll say.

729
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 5: This, if Pitbull's power at one thirty five is even

730
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: close to his power at one forty five, it is

731
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 5: probably going to be true. No matter or what that,

732
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: Pettis is going to be quicker. But if he does

733
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: have that power, right, pit Bull, He's going to find

734
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: the target. And then the question is not merely his

735
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: pit petis faster, but then what will that do to

736
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: him once he gets a taste of it?

737
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Right?

738
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: Does he walk back into the fray? Because I do

739
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: think the like, the more accurate of the two actually

740
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: is gonna be like if you look at the some

741
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 5: of the UFC stats, we don't have any belat or stats.

742
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 5: We look at some of the UFC stats on Anthony,

743
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 5: excuse me, on Sergio Pettis, he throws a lot of

744
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: junk volume, so it doesn't really land all that much,

745
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 5: and so his overall striking accuracy is depressed, at least statistically,

746
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 5: But you can there's something more to that. I'd say

747
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 5: the more efficient of the two is gonna be Pitbull.

748
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 5: So he might be quicker and he might be a

749
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 5: little bit moving a little bit more. But once Pitbull

750
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 5: finds him, that's what the big test is for me.

751
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: Does he have the power?

752
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: And if he does, what does it do to Sergio

753
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: in terms of his reactions?

754
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: Indeed, can't wait. We'll get to our picks a little

755
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: bit later, and okay bet Also on this card though,

756
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: Luca Light havevywaight tilt that has interesting future title positioning.

757
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 3: When Corey Anderson returns against Phil Davis. Wow, very high

758
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: level matchup here. Let's look at the odds of the

759
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: moment minus one pint eighty Corey Anderson plus one fifty

760
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: five Phil Davis.

761
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

762
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: Phil Davis is that guy that's just hard to be,

763
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: hard to look good against, hard to retire because he's

764
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: still very much in the mix here in his late thirties,

765
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: always in incredible shape. Justice, He's just a difficult out

766
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: Luke Cory Anderson, though you may have to get explosive

767
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 3: here to make a statement and get back into this

768
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: title picture. This is a tough matchup, you see that

769
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: in the odds. A very tough matchup for Cory Anderson.

770
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, a really tough matchup.

771
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 5: Phil Davis is in such a weird part of his career.

772
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 5: Like I remember when in Baltimore when he was supposed

773
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 5: to fight the returning Anthony Reubel Johnson back from World

774
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 5: Series of Fighting, and this was John Jones versus Glover

775
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 5: to Shia. We did a media day and they did

776
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 5: a face off, and when it was Phil Davis's turn

777
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 5: to pose off with Rumble, he tried to go pose

778
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 5: off with John, you know, to like create some media

779
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 5: buzz warm and I realized he lost the fight with

780
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 5: Anthony after that. But like, you know, his splash in

781
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 5: Bellator was kind of big. He I mean, has he

782
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: done an interview in like years at this point, I

783
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 5: mean I don't even know, Like sometimes I forget he's

784
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 5: even on the.

785
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: Bell to or roster.

786
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, he has like disappeared as

787
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 5: a you know, kind of promotional entity. But then when

788
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 5: you watch him fight, You're like, yeah, he still trains,

789
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 5: he's he's still in there doing the dude like he

790
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: is still as tough as ever he is. He's hard

791
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 5: to hit, he's hard to control. His top pressure is ridiculous.

792
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 5: He's he's got those same kind of not like identical

793
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: to have BI but what I mean is of the

794
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 5: top control guys. He's got good risk rides, he's got

795
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 5: good leg captures, he's got good you know, uh turks

796
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 5: and everything else. Like he's got a lot of those

797
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 5: games that keep guys tied up. He's still physically strong,

798
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: his timing is good, his experience is good. So like

799
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: he doesn't get hurt in fights, he doesn't get tired

800
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 5: in fights. It's only a question of, like in the

801
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: case of Nemkov, are they able to stop takedowns and

802
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: then create enough separation where you can then use your

803
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 5: jab a little bit more effectively at range because he

804
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 5: doesn't fire back as often.

805
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to.

806
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 5: So you have to ask yourself, is Corey Anderson that guy?

807
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 5: And you think you think, okay, he definitely can be right.

808
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 5: Like Corey's got ridiculous cardio, very good takedown defense, high

809
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: volume but who's the physically bigger stronger of the two.

810
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 5: Phil Davis is the physically bigger stronger of the two,

811
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 5: least we think, and who is like the better pure wrestler.

812
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 5: Phil Davis is the better pure wrestler. Phil Davis won

813
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 5: a national title at Penn State for folks who may

814
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 5: I remember so, and even in MMA, I think that

815
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 5: has translated. So it's a real, real, very very difficult

816
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 5: toss up fight. In my mind, it just comes down

817
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 5: to Corey Anderson being able to get enough down blocking

818
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 5: separation volume on the feet and then moving constantly. I

819
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 5: really believe that it's either either he can stuff those

820
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: takedowns enough and create separation or he cannot.

821
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: That's it.

822
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, thirty eight years old is Phil Davis, But when

823
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 3: not fighting NEMCOF, he's seven and oh. Since losing his

824
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: light heavyweight title to Ryan Batter all the way back

825
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: at Belator MSG and Luke the two NEMCOF fights, he's

826
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 3: fought him closer than everybody in Bellator except for Cory Anderson. Right,

827
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 3: So it's like this is the perfect matchup to see

828
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: who survives, who advances, but not going to be easy

829
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 3: for Corey and look the other one, Daniel James coming

830
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: on as a forty one year old heavyweight making a

831
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: late push. We know he was a security guard for

832
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: the rapper Twista. Well now he's like actually settling in

833
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: as a legitimate heavyweight contender. He's got go Can Sarah

834
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: Coom in front of him, two and Oho in belator

835
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: with two knockouts. But he's got a long wind streak. Luke,

836
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: this is a shallow division. Is Daniel James knocking on

837
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 3: that Ryan Bader door at the moment?

838
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

839
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 5: I think they want to set him up as a contender.

840
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 5: He's from Chicago. This fight will be in the Chicago area.

841
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 5: They call it the Chicago Land area. I don't know

842
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: why they do that. People from Virginia. I was like,

843
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 5: they don't call it the state of Virginia. They call

844
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: it the Commonwealth. I like, just shit, just shut the

845
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: fuck up. It's a state. Okay, you need to hear

846
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 5: nor there. Yeah, listen. James is long in the tooth.

847
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 5: He is a lot older, but he is a huge man,

848
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: a gigantic figure in this weight class. If he wasn't

849
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: training consistently, will easily be above three hundred pounds. Not

850
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 5: a doubt in my mind, look at the size of

851
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: this man.

852
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: He's huge, right, He.

853
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 5: Actually has really good improved wrestling. He doesn't make as

854
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: many bad choices in those like lock up clinch positions.

855
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 5: He is a huge power puncher on the feet, dynamite

856
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: ground and pound. So if this guy starts laying laying

857
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 5: the punches on you, just it's not going to be long.

858
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 5: He doesn't take a it doesn't require him to make

859
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: a lot of contact for that contact to cause serious problems.

860
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 5: I think he only has to worry about maybe some

861
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: of the wrestling here a little bit. I still think

862
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 5: he'll be enough. Give me some Daniel James hand raising tonight.

863
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 3: He's on a five fight win streak two in Bellator.

864
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 3: As I mentioned, he's knocked out Tyrell Fortune and Marcelo Golms,

865
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: so it's not nobody in this division. Also, Luke, he

866
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 3: made his pro debut in Bellatour back in twenty fourteen

867
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: and then never fought again until last year. Interesting prospect there.

868
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: That's tonight, nine pm Eastern Time only on Showtime. It's

869
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: Bellatoor two ninety seven. Can't wait. You can catch me

870
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 3: before and after on CBS Sports HQ. Luke let's go

871
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: to our second big one this weekend in the NMA space,

872
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: Saturday night back in the APEX, back in Las Vegas

873
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: with a fight night is the UFC. But you know what,

874
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: I really like this matchup Jared Cannoneer versus Marvin Vittori,

875
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: a pair of former title contenders. And as we settle

876
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: in right now to this main event, Caesars has minus

877
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: one twenty five for the favorite victory plus one oh

878
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: five for Jared Cannoneer. Luke, we were unable to set

879
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: up this matchup this week with everything else we had

880
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: going on in the combat sports world. You're geeked up

881
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: a little for this. This I mean high stakes. It

882
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 3: has the potential to be a very technical matchup as well,

883
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: although we certainly can see pockets of explosion here. Were

884
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 3: you leaning right now? You're into this? You fired?

885
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 5: No, this fight is this fight is deeply uninteresting. I

886
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 5: don't care about it at all, Unfortunately, I like.

887
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: Wow, dude, you obviously don't care whether this fight liser dies, whether.

888
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: The fight, whether the fight lives or dies. You're right,

889
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I like, do you like? Is there?

890
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: You know?

891
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: And not every fight can be this I understand, but

892
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 5: we're talking about a UFC main event, Like, does this

893
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: fight meaningfully do anything for anyone other than the two

894
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 5: combatants themselves, Like, it doesn't really mean a whole lot

895
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 5: more to the point, you know, it just doesn't scream action.

896
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Now.

897
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: Of course, MMA is unpredictable inherently. I understand that. I

898
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: accept that it could be fine. But like Marvin Vttori,

899
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: we talked about it, he's got a lot of things.

900
00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: He's good.

901
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 5: He needs a couple of things he's much better at

902
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 5: to really begin to make difficulty for his opponents. Right now,

903
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: it feels like he's good enough to play catch up

904
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: with some of the better ones. Right He went the

905
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: distance twice with Izzy, he went to distance with Whitaker.

906
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: They all won.

907
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: But you know, like he played, he can play up

908
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 5: there a little bit, but there's never really anything to

909
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 5: get him over that hump. And even against Roman the

910
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 5: Leeds that he struggled a little bit, maybe even got

911
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 5: a little lucky with the scoring. So we're just waiting

912
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 5: for him to level up. For cannon Ear, it's a

913
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: little bit different. He really has leveled up, getting to

914
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 5: his third UFC weight class. He rebounded after his loss

915
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: to Izzy against Sean Strickland in a not a fun fight,

916
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: but you know, an admirable effort.

917
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: So listen, these are very talented guys.

918
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: These are admirable guys who have accomplished a lot that's

919
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: worthy of, you know, respect. But in terms of a

920
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 5: fight itself, Like, is this a fun or otherwise interesting

921
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 5: fight or interesting style matchup or anything?

922
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: No?

923
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: Do we really believe that either of the winners here

924
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 5: are going to be soon either a credible contender or

925
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 5: a fun one for the champion?

926
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 8: No?

927
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 5: Like, So it's just a It's a fight you could

928
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 5: take habit middleweight, and we should respect it on that level,

929
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 5: but we don't need to dress it up as anything

930
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 5: other than that.

931
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Well, I do acknowledge the potential for this to be

932
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: a slow, plotting again chess match between these two until

933
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: somebody lands and then maybe we speed up a little bit. Obviously,

934
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: Victory pushes the pace, tries to take the fight down

935
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: at times. It could go a lot of different ways,

936
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: but I don't know. I like it, Luke. I like

937
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: the what they're both fighting for to remain relevant in

938
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 3: this weight class. Yeah, I'm interested in this fight. Their

939
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: number cannon Heir comes in at number three. Vittori comes

940
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: in at number four. Obviously, the elephant in the room

941
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: in terms of both of them advancing back to the

942
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 3: title is that both came up short in a big way,

943
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 3: you know, for victory in the rematch in Cannon there

944
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: just I mean, he just didn't let his hands go enough.

945
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: Luke unfortunately, even though he was very defensively responsible and

946
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 3: seemed game plan wise to be really you know there

947
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 3: and ready, just couldn't get it done. But they come

948
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 3: in at three and four. The elephant in the room

949
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 3: is what about Whittaker versus duplus see which is coming

950
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 3: up and Dana seems to have hinted will produce the

951
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: next title challenger. Cannoneers only losses in this weight class

952
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: too out of Sonya and Whittaker. Our boys Shaq MAJORI

953
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 3: caught up with Cannoneer this week and you know, really

954
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: talking about could a title challenger come out of this

955
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: fight or is it really you know, Big Robin and

956
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: drinkus over there for the Battle of Africa. Look, let's

957
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 3: hear what Jared had to say.

958
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 9: I want to open some eyes and drop some jaws,

959
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 9: you know, I want to uh, let the guys who

960
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 9: make those decisions say, you know, we already have a

961
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 9: We've already said this is a contender fight, but that

962
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 9: looks like a more appealing fight, you know, me versus

963
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 9: the Israel Part two. I know the first one didn't

964
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 9: go too well and a lot of people weren't too

965
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 9: happy with it, but uh, you know I wasn't happy

966
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 9: with it either, and I've made the changes that I

967
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 9: need to make myself satisfied. If I ever get in

968
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 9: the oct and gone with him, I'm going to be satisfied.

969
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: So uh that's it.

970
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just.

971
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 9: Becoming a better fighter, you know, approaching this thing a

972
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 9: little bit differently, and uh, I'm not taking any shorts,

973
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 9: So you know, I'm ready to put on a performance

974
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 9: that's gonna make those guys believe differently than what they

975
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 9: what's already written written out there in the in the ether,

976
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 9: if you will.

977
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: Look at thirty nine, we know he is crippling power

978
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: when he goes after it. Sometimes he's almost a victim

979
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: of how in my opinion, technical he can be as

980
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 3: a boxer that he doesn't doesn't utilize his biggest strength enough,

981
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: which is sometimes just letting his hands go, He tries

982
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: to find the perfect punch. If he knocks Vittori out,

983
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: could that be enough to re energize the middleweight title

984
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: discussion or sorry, bro, you had your chance.

985
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: Okay, if he knocks him clean out, which is unlikely

986
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: because Vittori has a chin, and it's possible that that

987
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 5: could do something interesting for him. I mean, here's what

988
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: he's up against, right, He's not just thirty nine, but

989
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: he's a going in against a guy who is hard

990
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 5: to hurt. So like, getting that is going to be difficult,

991
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 5: and even if you do, you already lost to the

992
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: guy who is the champion again in a fight where

993
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: you just kind of underperformed, and you can forget issy

994
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 5: for that because he's still the champion again. He gets

995
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 5: that opportunity to be forgiven. But it doesn't work that

996
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 5: way for the contender. It's like, I'm not putting it

997
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 5: on par with what al Donna just turned in, which

998
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: was just she was just scared to throw. That's not

999
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: the same. But like in the end, he just couldn't

1000
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: get much going even though he was trying. They're not

1001
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 5: gonna be quick to give you one. I don't think

1002
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 5: just icing Vatory as that, which would be big. I'm

1003
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 5: not sleeping on that. That would be huge, But by itself,

1004
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 5: that wouldn't be enough because again Whittaker kind of Yes,

1005
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 5: there was a moment there where obviously kennedyar came back

1006
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 5: against him, which was kind of admirable, but Whittaker was

1007
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 5: the dominant figure in that fight too. So yes, I

1008
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 5: agree that icing Vatory, while very unlikely, would do a

1009
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 5: lot for him. He's in such a disadvantageous position for

1010
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 5: those ambitions it would take a lot more than that too.

1011
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 3: Well. Ken It rebounded from the lost out of Soignia

1012
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: by edging Sean Strickland by split decision, and Vittori bounced

1013
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: back from his loss against Robert Whitaker with that up

1014
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: and down performance against Roman Deledes. And same same equation

1015
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: here for h For Vittoria, his only losses in the

1016
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: last seven years have been to Winnaker and Atossani. Let's

1017
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 3: close with Vittori talking about this fight catching up with Shack.

1018
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 10: Majory and the more the time goes on, the more

1019
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 10: that the fight goes on, I think I'm gonna take over.

1020
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1021
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 10: That's that's that's what you guys are gonna want to

1022
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 10: see and yeah, and then might happen that on my

1023
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 10: catching early because yeah, man, I'm.

1024
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: You know, I've been working a lot on just like

1025
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: you know, like more letting punches going like he's just

1026
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm just topping down into my real POTENTI I believe

1027
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: you know. So you guys are gonna see like a great, great,

1028
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: great fight and by now I can't wait to get

1029
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: in there with him.

1030
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: See, look that might be just talk to you. That

1031
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: fires me up because their themes are the same and

1032
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: who they've beaten and lost to and both didn't pull

1033
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: the tri well. I mean, look, Victori tries to pull

1034
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: the trigger, but he needs a statement when really badly.

1035
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: As much we're talking about what would Cannoneir do by

1036
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: icing him, Victori needs a statement finish. He needs to

1037
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 3: take all that aggression that he sometimes brings and translated

1038
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: into danger. He's telling you he's ready to change, and

1039
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 3: we'll see in this fight. Look, if you come running

1040
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 3: after Jared Cannoneer and try to fight him, I mean

1041
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: he's gonna fight you back, it's going to get exciting.

1042
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: You may get KO'ed. But I kind of feel like

1043
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 3: Victory really needs to take those big chances that he

1044
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: just talked about, or these guys really are that a

1045
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 3: step below the elite and that's where they're gonna stay, Luke,

1046
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: they gotta splash the back.

1047
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: Here's the thing again.

1048
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 5: At thirty nine, it's just hard to say that cannoneir

1049
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 5: has like level up moments in front of him, Like

1050
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 5: who he is at this point is who he is,

1051
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 5: and he has to make the best of that, and

1052
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 5: he might be able to we shall see victory. I'm

1053
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 5: still waiting for the level up moment. I still think

1054
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 5: he's got one in him. He's too young and too

1055
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 5: good for this to be like his peak.

1056
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Now.

1057
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 5: I don't know when he's gonna round that corner, and

1058
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: it may not be this fight, it may not be

1059
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 5: the next one, like it could take a little while.

1060
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 5: But I still think he's got a level up in him.

1061
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 5: So if it is this fight, great, that would be

1062
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 5: that would be that would be amazing. Like to your point,

1063
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 5: it's not like people don't lack confidence inventory, but they

1064
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 5: do lack confidence in him as a real title threat,

1065
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: like that has been for the time being, that flame

1066
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: has been extinguished. What he needs to do is rekindle that.

1067
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: So if he goes in there, and he's right, he's

1068
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 5: letting his hands go and he's just causing problems. And

1069
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 5: let's say he ice this cannon here, which I also

1070
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 5: find to be unlikely, but let's say that would be

1071
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 5: really interesting to me. That would be a very like Wow, Okay,

1072
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 5: victory is really sort of coming into his own here.

1073
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Maybe, but we just need to see it.

1074
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: And it may not be this fight, And I think

1075
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 5: having a little patience is probably gonna be better for

1076
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: us long term in terms of just a realistic timeline.

1077
00:49:54,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: Okay, true or false? If if Vitry ices uh cannoneer,

1078
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: you know, let's say, ground and pound shocks us, takes

1079
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: him out of there, Lorenzo picks up the phone and

1080
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: goes put the Italian guy back in the main event.

1081
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: Let's go get him right back in there for Izzy,

1082
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: forget Driscus in the other bro, all right, make that happen.

1083
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: Big steaks here, potentially, Luke, it's all I'm saying. Okay,

1084
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: they want an Italian champion. You better believe they do, Luke,

1085
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,479
Speaker 3: Those zuofa guys, you know.

1086
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: It Driscus you mean Dricus.

1087
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was I was being you know, a disrespectful

1088
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: on purpose, almost like who cares about the rest of them?

1089
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: Let's get let's fast track the Italian Luke, Okay, you

1090
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Let's keep this going to the

1091
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: comin event. Your guy the number eight lightweight in the world,

1092
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: born in Georgia. But he's Armenian, correct, Luke, we're talking

1093
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: about Armansaruki in.

1094
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, he is Armenian.

1095
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 3: He's also the biggest betting favorite on this card. Luke,

1096
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 3: it's incredible minus eleven hundred to the plus seven hundred

1097
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 3: Joaquim Silva from Brazil. Luke, you could argue he beat

1098
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 3: Gamra or should have gotten the decision. He's only ever

1099
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: lost to is back when they caught up with each

1100
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: other early on. Outside of that one in the UFC,

1101
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: he's put in the striking and the aggression together. We

1102
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: know what he can do as a wrestler. This feels

1103
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: like a setup fight according to the odds, to catapult

1104
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: him right back into contention.

1105
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean this was not the original

1106
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: fight that was supposed to happen. I believe they had

1107
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 5: another one in mind. This is the ultimately where they

1108
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 5: ended up. He's a huge favorite. Armansar yuki In, and

1109
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 5: I think he deserves to be. I will tell UBC,

1110
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: is this the best fight this weekend that they could

1111
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 5: ever find for Armansur yuki In. No, it's not, I

1112
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: will tell you though. I'm glad it is here. I'm

1113
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 5: glad he's getting this. He is very young, and he

1114
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 5: is very good at wrestling. He is very good at control.

1115
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: He's been working, though, on the other parts of his game,

1116
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 5: some on his stand up, which has gotten better as well,

1117
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 5: and a little bit on his ground and pound. Two

1118
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: those two parts, to me have are not where they

1119
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 5: should be yet, although it doesn't necessarily matter in terms

1120
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 5: of wins and losses because all the again, his gas

1121
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 5: tank is ridiculous, Like everything is absurd. I mean, maybe

1122
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 5: he faded a little bit in that Gamraan fight, but

1123
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 5: you know, BC, that was That's one of the most

1124
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 5: insane wrestling battles you'll ever see in MMA. I mean, yeah,

1125
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 5: the guys are gonna get a little tired at the

1126
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 5: end of that. But he's got so many things working

1127
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 5: for him as kind of what I mean. I know,

1128
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 5: he rebounded as you can see here against Demir Ismagoulov,

1129
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 5: which I thought he wasn't even gonna win because I've

1130
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 5: had some concerns. Here's what I'm trying to say, as

1131
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 5: I get a little long winded. He's so good that

1132
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 5: they could fast track him just based on the results

1133
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 5: if they wanted to. But I feel like if they

1134
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 5: were a little bit more patient and they gave this

1135
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: guy a little bit more time to get camps and

1136
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 5: training under his belt, he would be really able to

1137
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: maximize his time there. Jakums are I think, as they

1138
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: pronounce as a Joakim Silva is desperately overmatched in this contest.

1139
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: I think he's got like a sixty percent takedown defensive rate.

1140
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: You know, he's a good striker on the feet, but

1141
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 5: he's a little bit reckless. He's a come forward guy

1142
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 5: like sarryu kinchill be able to get this fight to

1143
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 5: the ground quickly, easily and overwhelm this guy. What I

1144
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 5: want to CEBC are some of those other pieces put together.

1145
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 5: I want to see him execute good control and then

1146
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 5: good solid ground and pound on top of it or

1147
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 5: on the feet. If you want to play the game

1148
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 5: with that guy, show me some new wrinkles.

1149
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: Right.

1150
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 5: So, yeah, this is a great fight for Saryukian to

1151
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: take a temporary break on the fast track, still get

1152
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 5: a quality opponent, like there's not a pushover, but being

1153
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: a very advantageous matchup where the threat is not so

1154
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 5: overwhelming that you can't work on things that you've been

1155
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 5: developing in the gym. I like this fight for Saryuki

1156
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 5: in a lot for those reasons.

1157
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see the jab. I want to

1158
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 3: see him go to the body more with the punches Luke,

1159
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 3: especially in the clinch there, he's very tough, very aggressive.

1160
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: The storyline has already set Shard Islamah Jeff hang on

1161
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 3: to the title that we one day rematch these two

1162
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: at the highest level. But you do have that BMF

1163
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 3: battle coming up. You do, of course have the recent

1164
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: results that broke out Luke. Number eight in the division

1165
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: is Saryuki, and I won't expect him to make a

1166
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: big leap considering the odds and the opponent, but put

1167
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: some win. I mean that that that last win he

1168
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 3: had was very solid, so you know he starts stringing

1169
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: these together. It's not going to be long in this

1170
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: division Luke, and he is fun as shit to watch.

1171
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 3: Where else are you looking up and down this card?

1172
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: Remember originally this was Josh Ammett versus Elia Tuporia that

1173
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 3: got moved off. You certainly would say this continues the trend,

1174
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: although the two fights on top are very good. A

1175
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: couple other matchups I like, But Luke, this is this

1176
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 3: is an in between fight night card at the Apex, right.

1177
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not to say that there are some interesting

1178
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: fights happening up and down the card. Nothing particularly speaks

1179
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 5: to me other than maybe Pat Sabatini against Lucas al Meeda,

1180
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 5: which is also on the main card itself. Pat Sabatini

1181
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: I think has got some genuine potential and I'm curious

1182
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 5: to see what the next step is and in this

1183
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 5: campaign at one forty five, so.

1184
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, ko huh.

1185
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 3: He got stopped in the first round by Damon Jackson

1186
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: last time, so this is a bounce back opportunity.

1187
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 5: For so I'm curious to see what happens there. Arman

1188
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 5: Petrosian is a fun fighter, but you know, I think

1189
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: a little limited, but we'll so we'll see what happens

1190
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 5: with him. But the rest of it, again, it's not

1191
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 5: like there's like these fighters are battery like that. That's

1192
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 5: not really what I'm saying. It's just are any of

1193
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: them uniquely exciting to me, not necessarily, you know.

1194
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: No, this thundercard like the early prelimbs outside of my

1195
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: Lithuanian Brethren, Modestus Bucalcus in the curtain Jerker, Luke, this

1196
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 3: is uh, this kind of kind of sucks. Luckily, it's

1197
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: a great weekend for fights, and you know this main

1198
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 3: cards decent. But I don't have anything else to say

1199
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 3: about it, Luke Thomas, I'm sorry.

1200
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to go to a sports game on

1201
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 5: Saturday night, so I'll have to catch it later.

1202
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: You're like, take that fu all right, Luke.

1203
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: Also, it's not even that, it's just like, what's a

1204
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: better use of my time? You know?

1205
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 3: Also, this evening PFL five, is that tonight, Luke? Or

1206
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 3: tomorrow night?

1207
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: It is? It is tonight? It is tonight.

1208
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm gonna be really honest

1209
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: with you. I did not know until this morning that

1210
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: this was happening. I did not realize that.

1211
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: This is what I mean. It's like, dude, why'd they

1212
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: sign Francis? Yeah?

1213
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: I can't imagine why they would want to pivot to

1214
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 5: a different sector of fighters that could do something for

1215
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 5: them other than this system. They've built which will get

1216
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 5: them absolutely nothing.

1217
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 3: So the main card is on ESPN. Everything else on

1218
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: the plus. Luke Ante Delia I believe, is the head

1219
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 3: defending heavyweight champion Dalisia. He'll be taking on Maurice Green

1220
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: of Crochet fame. The Comin event brings back Larisa Pacheco,

1221
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: who upset the hell out of Kayla Harrison in the

1222
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: third meeting in last year's championship in women's featherweight. But

1223
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: then you have that head scratching decision to not put

1224
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 3: Kayla back into this season. So Larisa comes back without

1225
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: really much fanfare, taking on amber LeBrock in this one.

1226
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: Also on that main card in this Librock excuse me, look,

1227
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: I can't read anymore close up.

1228
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: Like I know. The reason I know that is because

1229
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: I did.

1230
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 5: Actually, you know it's funny her one of her trainers,

1231
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 5: the CSA Jim, which is Kieran Fitzgibbons. I've been paying

1232
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 5: attention to a lot of his tutorials that he puts

1233
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 5: out online. He is a very impressive coach. He is

1234
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 5: a very impressive coach. And if you look at her numbers,

1235
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 5: like through twenty nineteen she was like three and four.

1236
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 5: It wasn't going well for her, and then since then,

1237
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how long she's been with CSA, but

1238
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 5: certainly in the last since basically the pandemic, she's been

1239
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 5: undefeated and against good quality opponents. So that's an Pacheco

1240
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 5: should win because that's a tough fight. She's really, really good.

1241
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: But the surge of Amber Librock in this kind of

1242
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 5: a semi unusual spot with her very very gifted coach

1243
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 5: is interesting for me to watch.

1244
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: Women's featherweight division. Also, Aspin lad coming off a loss

1245
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: in her PFL seasonal debut here at one forty five,

1246
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: is going to need a big performance to get in

1247
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: the playoffs here against Carolina Sobek okay heavyweight opener. There

1248
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: as that giant from Brazil, Hennon Ferreira fora haita excuse me,

1249
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: takes on Matteya Scheffel, who I believe was in the

1250
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 3: finals last year. Dennis Kotsov in the Andary featured Bart

1251
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: against Jorgen di Castro. Maybe tune in early for Julia

1252
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: budd Back. I don't know, Luke, PFL needs they need something, right,

1253
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: they need something.

1254
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: They need Francis to fight Pavlovitch.

1255
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 5: You know, I mean you know what I mean, Like,

1256
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 5: this is a path to nothing, This is a path

1257
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 5: or did you see Scott Coker confirmed yesterday to the

1258
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 5: media that the PFL is one of the potential buyers

1259
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 5: of Bellator.

1260
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: Did you see that?

1261
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: I thought that was now? Wasn't aerial reporting that that

1262
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: was now? Not not a thing?

1263
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: Okay?

1264
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 5: So the way I understand it is they're not one

1265
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: of the leading contenders, but that they were in talks

1266
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 5: for it, and that that was an ongoing process and

1267
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 5: I don't think they're fully out of it. He confirmed

1268
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 5: that that that was that was a thing, So like

1269
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 5: you know, you never know, someone could surge back to

1270
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: the front of the pack with a with a new

1271
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 5: offer or you know, a new system.

1272
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: Who knows.

1273
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 5: But he did confirm it on the record yesterday, so

1274
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty interesting. Maybe they end up

1275
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 5: buying I'll tell you what. Like, you know, you think

1276
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 5: more promotions are better, and in general, I think that

1277
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 5: would be the case. But if if you've got a

1278
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 5: monopoly in the market, which you do, I mean, this

1279
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 5: is like the part that folks really need to understand

1280
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 5: about PFL and Bellator. None of these guys, including one,

1281
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 5: is certainly in the state that they're in. None of

1282
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 5: them are going to out compete the UFC into changing

1283
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: the market. It's not possible. You actually can't do it.

1284
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 5: There's just no way to actually do it. Short of

1285
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: some catastrophic mistake. The UFC would have to make from

1286
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 5: a business standpoint, or for federal legislation to change the

1287
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 5: structure of the sport. But they're competing their way out

1288
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 5: of this problem simply won't work. However, what might be

1289
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 5: kind of interesting BCE is a big number two kind

1290
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: of promotion where you know, it's not a true competitor

1291
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 5: to the UFC, but it's got a couple of these

1292
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 5: combined forces that at least make it a lot more

1293
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 5: interesting than they are when they're kind of atomized all

1294
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 5: by themselves, you know what I mean. So I wonder

1295
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 5: about that.

1296
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Speaker 3: All right, Luca, it's an interesting thought. Let's transition here

1297
00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: to topic number three.

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Speaker 1: That's a bold thought. What's that? What's the thing?

1299
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 5: It's a bold thought, Cotton. Let's see how it works

1300
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 5: for them.

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Speaker 3: H Luke. We were already going to talk about Connor

1302
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: McGregor here on topic number three, but overnight things escalated

1303
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: in an alleged incident that is rumored that is a

1304
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: leedgs have to take place here. Remember Connor McGregor was

1305
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: at the NBA Finals Game four in Miami. We saw

1306
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 3: him on have you seen this ship earlier this week?

1307
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 5: Hold on, tukey, all right? All right, Tuster, all right, tuster,

1308
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: just walking on in just all right? Now, let's say hi.

1309
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 5: Let's say hi.

1310
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: School's out for.

1311
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to say hi? Menmore you have to talk. Okay,

1312
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: what's your name?

1313
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 6: The a?

1314
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: That's your name? Yeah? And why are you wearing this

1315
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: on your head?

1316
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 3: Ah?

1317
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: I was too sat?

1318
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 6: I K.

1319
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 3: I guess really sad.

1320
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: I just really sad because I like it. Mom? Okay, meanwhire,

1321
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: You're already a better public speaker than daddy. Can you

1322
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: believe that? Ye? All right, we have to get the

1323
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: show going me and more so I appreciate you coming

1324
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: to say.

1325
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: This is uncle his uncle gringo talking. Can she hear me?

1326
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: Get here? But I'll tell her go ahead, all right?

1327
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: Can you tell her that I just recently purchased a

1328
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: new pair of glasses. I'd like to get her to tell.

1329
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 5: Me, Hey, he bought a new pair of glasses. You

1330
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 5: want to see them? She says, yes, let's see what

1331
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 5: do you think of his glasses?

1332
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke, that used to produce tears.

1333
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: Look more, he's like blippy Say b C is a moron?

1334
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, my cats will scratch the ever living heck

1335
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 3: out of members of your family if you keep this.

1336
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: All right, There we go, There you go, everybody.

1337
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: Tuki Thomas there, that's the reason why we do this show, Luke.

1338
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: Tuki needs shoes as always. That's great. Great to see her, Luke.

1339
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 3: She's she ready for the summer. She's fired up.

1340
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Bro's she's super ready for the pool.

1341
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 3: All right. Back to distressing news, Luke. Last Friday was

1342
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: Game four of the NBA Finals, Connor knocked out the

1343
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 3: Miami Heat mascot who went to the er. We all

1344
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: talked about that, but behind the scenes, he is being

1345
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: accused of sexually assaulting a woman by forcing her violently

1346
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: into a VIP men's room inside the arena. A letter

1347
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: was sent to McGregor and his team that allegedly he

1348
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 3: aggressively kissed her and attempted her to perform multiple sexual

1349
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: acts while he had a bodyguard inside there with him

1350
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: keeping the crowds outside of the restroom. This is all

1351
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 3: alleged Luke, and the statement from McGregor's team and lawyer

1352
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: was that mister McGregor will not be intimidated. The UFC

1353
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 3: went on to say that they will continue to gather

1354
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: additional details and let the legal process play out before

1355
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: they make any moves or comments. This is also a

1356
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: lawsuit against the NBA and the Miami Heat. This was

1357
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: all reported by TMZ, which is also as you can see,

1358
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: there has videos backstage of Connor what appears to be

1359
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 3: dragging someone by the hand to this men's room, and

1360
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 3: then you'll see his security on the outside keeping everybody out. Luke,

1361
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 3: when we consider that we have been talking in recent weeks,

1362
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: not just about hey, what the heck's going on with

1363
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: McGregor and USADA in his return, but hey, every time

1364
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: I see him on camera, man, he looks really drunk

1365
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: or high or worse. It doesn't look like he's doing

1366
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 3: the spartan training lifestyle. He's all over the globe partying

1367
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 3: it up. Now you add this on top of it, Luke,

1368
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 3: it's all allegations. We'll let law play out, but this

1369
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,479
Speaker 3: is another step in another distressing trend from McGregor. Going

1370
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: back to what I guess the last time we saw

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 3: him in the cage. But even further, Luke, it's almost

1372
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 3: like like the before in Connor McGregor's career and the after.

1373
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 3: We're still in the after, and it's still getting worse, Luke, So.

1374
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: Let's go through it ready again.

1375
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Speaker 5: To your point, these are just allegations. I mean, who

1376
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 5: the hell knows. And I know that TMS video came

1377
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 5: out and it puts him together with the victim, or

1378
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 5: the alleged victim, I should say, in this case, but

1379
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 5: the video itself is not necessarily incriminating to my knowledge.

1380
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot of this that's unknown that

1381
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 5: Miami Heat have pledged to launch an investigation. I guess

1382
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 5: we'll see. The police have been informed this person did

1383
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 5: go to the police, for whatever that is worth. So

1384
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 5: you know, do we have any idea about what the

1385
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 5: truth is?

1386
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: We have no idea.

1387
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 5: But what we do know is what is at least

1388
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 5: he's been accused of or at least had run ins

1389
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 5: with so for example, in an issue that happened in

1390
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 5: December of twenty eighteen that ultimately ruled into twenty nineteen,

1391
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 5: the first time he was accused of sexual assault in Dublin.

1392
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 5: That's one, there was an arrest. Remember he was arrested

1393
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 5: off the coast of Corsica from an incident as well.

1394
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 5: He was a let go and then charges were dropp

1395
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 5: due to insufficient evidence. That woman in that case also

1396
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 5: went to the police, and now you have this one,

1397
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 5: for whatever that is worth. So those are three accusations,

1398
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 5: with all three cases of someone going to law enforcement

1399
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 5: with it, but someone might note nothing come of it

1400
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 5: from a law enforcement standpoint. But there's more than that, right,

1401
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 5: So there's throwing the the dolly at the bus, that's one.

1402
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 5: There's the Miami phone thing, which I don't really count,

1403
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 5: but okay, it's there guy in the bar, right, not

1404
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 5: gonna have the old guy at the bar. That's another one.

1405
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 5: Obviously jumping into the bell toor cage because you cannot

1406
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 5: do that. That is absolutely illegal. That's not great either,

1407
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 5: shoving Murfree and Mark Goddard and it goes on from there.

1408
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 5: How about punching or at least allegedly attacking the Italian DJ.

1409
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 5: How about in January I believe either this year or

1410
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 5: maybe just the end of twenty twenty two, there was

1411
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 5: the accusation by that woman. Now she did not claim

1412
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 5: sexual assault, but she claimed that Connor McGregor did physically

1413
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 5: assault her on a boat, which she then had to flee.

1414
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 5: She also went to the police about that, and I

1415
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 5: guess ultimately dropped charges or there's some interesting reporter around

1416
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 5: potentially why she did or dropped.

1417
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: For her participation in the investigation.

1418
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 5: When we're or the other like I mean, the and

1419
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 5: again the old guy, he can't even deny it because

1420
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 5: it happened on tape, right, like everyone saw it for

1421
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 5: what it was. So listen, what does any of that

1422
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 5: mean about Miami?

1423
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Who knows?

1424
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 5: I guess we'll see, But would it really be out

1425
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 5: of character if it came true? I mean, I you know,

1426
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 5: you have to kind of ask, like there's this broader

1427
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 5: pattern of what's happened in terms of like physical interaction,

1428
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 5: and to what extent it does or does not fit

1429
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 5: in it. Everyone gets to make their own assessment there,

1430
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 5: But like these are you know, it's just weird to

1431
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 5: me that someone I know what folks are gonna say, right,

1432
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 5: like how could someone be accused that many times? And

1433
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 5: like all of those incidents be not true. Now we're

1434
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 5: not celebrities, We're not under the microscope in that way.

1435
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 5: So It's hard to say, but it is weird, right,

1436
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 5: b see like to have that kind of bizarre track record,

1437
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 5: which doesn't have a huge law enforcement footprint, sure, but

1438
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 5: nevertheless seems to be this pervasive thing that follows him

1439
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 5: everywhere one way or the other.

1440
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: He's insanely famous and insanely rich. So I'm not gonna

1441
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 3: act naive, Luke that when you have those two elements there,

1442
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 3: that's stuff like this, meaning the situation dragging a female

1443
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 3: into a men's room as your security staff as that

1444
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: video appears, you know, is blocking the door, whether or

1445
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 3: not anything happened in there that was illegal. Luke, it's

1446
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,479
Speaker 3: like the trend. He's on the road, he's going down.

1447
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 3: I watched the McGregor documentary on Netflix and talked up

1448
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 3: in my breakdown that day you were off about. You know,

1449
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 3: it's entertaining. It fills in some gaps of watching behind

1450
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 3: the scenes leading up to these four fights. But man,

1451
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 3: is there a ton of propaganda about this. You know,

1452
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 3: pure clean cut family man who's just such a rabid

1453
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 3: competitor and and you know, has this vision of excellence

1454
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: for him in his country that you know, sometimes that

1455
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: takes over and he makes bad decisions, but win or lose,

1456
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 3: man he comes back fighting, and man, do we tell

1457
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 3: you how much he loves his wife and kids and

1458
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 3: all that, by the way, is probably true. Again, I'm

1459
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 3: not naive to how celebrities role or the or sometimes

1460
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 3: the power they think they have in polite society. But

1461
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: if you're this married man who is also supposedly like

1462
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 3: should be in camp getting all kinds of ready for

1463
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: this big fight that the reality show The Ultimate Fighter

1464
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 3: is being used as a commercial for, is this where

1465
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 3: you need to be? You know, we always say we

1466
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 3: don't want to be the old guy in the porch,

1467
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 3: But if you're going to hang out at a nightclub

1468
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 3: at three am and get embroiled in stuff, you have

1469
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 3: to start asking yourself, why am I at the nightclub

1470
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 3: at three am? Is what I have to risk and

1471
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 3: worth risking it for another night out and a little

1472
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: bit of fun? Right, Like, there's other ways you can

1473
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: do that. If you were at an NBA Finals game

1474
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 3: and separate from knocking out the mascot, which was its

1475
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 3: own incident, and you're doing things like this and dragging

1476
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:07,919
Speaker 3: women into restrooms while security holds the door, that suggests

1477
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 3: to me that this is your lifestyle, this is how

1478
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: you roll. It's leading to this really downward trend, Luke,

1479
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 3: where you know people because he's so polarizing people. You know,

1480
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 3: I've heard you know he's finished as a fighter really

1481
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: ever since the Ed of Alvarez fight, ever since the

1482
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 3: Mayweather money, ever since the stepping away and all that.

1483
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: But I don't know how to respect or nostalgia. I've

1484
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 3: always wanted to believe that he can put it back

1485
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 3: together and come back, and it seemed by the way

1486
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 3: ahead of the Cowboy fight he did do that to

1487
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: a large degree. But in general, Luke, this second half

1488
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 3: of his career has been an absolute train wreck. And this,

1489
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: whether the allegation is actually true or not, just the setting,

1490
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 3: just the foundation of this, packaged with all of the

1491
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 3: recent public behavior. This guy's finished as a fighter, Luke.

1492
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 3: I will and I wanted to be the last person

1493
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: to say that because I wanted to believe, because it's

1494
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 3: more fun when he's in the game. There is always

1495
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 3: been this sort of like not hero side of him.

1496
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 3: But you know, against all odds, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1497
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: reach for the highest star and show you I can

1498
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: do that that can become intoxicating to watch, but separate

1499
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 3: from how despicable If this allegation is true, this actually is.

1500
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: I might be the last one to finally admit it, Luke,

1501
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 3: but he's finished. If you can't get this together now

1502
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 3: after this long time away and this big exaggerated comeback,

1503
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 3: and you're still living your life like this, you're still

1504
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: you know, showing up to the ultimate firehouse looking all

1505
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: kinds of rabbit and having people tossing out suspicions and

1506
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 3: now the uncertainty of will he actually even fighter? Is

1507
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: this ever supposed to be a fighter?

1508
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 6: Like?

1509
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: What the hell is going on? This is disturbing as

1510
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 3: shit across the board.

1511
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: So you know, like MMA just has a Connor McGregor addiction.

1512
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: You know, we understand it.

1513
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 5: Like dude, were like, let's just you know, none of

1514
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 5: us are gonna sit here and claim we haven't tried

1515
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 5: to ride Connor McGregor's popularity way for our own self aggrandizement.

1516
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: Of course we have. Sure, it's just you know, part

1517
01:10:59,080 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 1: of the reality.

1518
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 5: And when he competes, you know, you're very excited about

1519
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 5: it because you know it's gonna be a great month

1520
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 5: for you for traffic, Like that's the reality too, you know,

1521
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 5: but at some point you got to call.

1522
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, you have to. You have to pay attention

1523
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: to the details here.

1524
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 4: You have to.

1525
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 5: You have to, you have to be fair to what

1526
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 5: the reality is. And you know, I don't know if

1527
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 5: he's finished be see, you might be right.

1528
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say one way or the other.

1529
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, what about.

1530
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 5: Anything that is happening leads you to believe he wants

1531
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 5: to compete anytime soon, and even if that he did

1532
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 5: compete anytime soon, that he would be in any kind

1533
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 5: of state to do well. I mean, just like nothing

1534
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 5: about what he's doing is in line with that. And

1535
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 5: it's like, dude, I kind of get I mean, b see,

1536
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 5: we talked about this with Connor McGregor. Dude, like, I

1537
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 5: feel like he's hanging on to some old ideals from

1538
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 5: a past life. His life is interesting because he's lived

1539
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 5: like a bunch of it all at once. I mean,

1540
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 5: how old is Connor thirty four? I mean for thirty four?

1541
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 5: Think about where his life has gone so rapidly from

1542
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 5: being sort of like a working class guy with maybe

1543
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 5: not necessarily the brightest future in Dublin, Ireland to this

1544
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 5: global superstar doing this all the stuff in between, and

1545
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 5: we had said it, Dude, Conor McGregor beat the game.

1546
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: He beat the game.

1547
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 5: He got to a point where he was able to

1548
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 5: get a ton of money from fighting, then fighting Floyd,

1549
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 5: and then using that money to set up a post

1550
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 5: fighting future.

1551
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: And he did it.

1552
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 5: Dude, we never even talk about that. He did that

1553
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 5: in one of the most successful ways with the whiskey business.

1554
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 5: Now the whisky's not very good, but it doesn't matter

1555
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 5: because the money is. The money was tremendous for him

1556
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 5: and it set him up generationally. Dude, you beat the game.

1557
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 5: You beat the game, and he wants to hold on

1558
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 5: to this thing where like he's still he's still got

1559
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 5: that competitive fire and he still wants to be around

1560
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 5: the fight game and it's still interests him, and I

1561
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 5: guess on some level it still might. But here's my point, BC,

1562
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 5: he is, irrespective of what criminal activity he is alleged

1563
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 5: to have been involved in, just put that to the

1564
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 5: side for just a moment. He is in a warp

1565
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 5: speed different stage of development in life, so far past

1566
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 5: the concer terms of the fight game that it's this

1567
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 5: old ghost kind of haunting him that calls him back,

1568
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,640
Speaker 5: but he's just not really there for it in the

1569
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 5: way that he needs to be for it to be

1570
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 5: even good, much less real.

1571
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: Uh, it's just.

1572
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 5: Bizarre to see people thinking like this guy has got

1573
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 5: a big future in the fight game in twenty twenty three. Dude,

1574
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,440
Speaker 5: I mean, if he never came back, would you be surprised?

1575
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 5: I you know, I'm not saying that's the likeliest outcome,

1576
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 5: but that does that seem crazy?

1577
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: It should not, It should not.

1578
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's spiraling towards something worse than that, Luke.

1579
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 3: I mean, his life seems out of control. And you

1580
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 3: do hear the on you do hear a lot of

1581
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 3: speculation with organized crime and mafia and tians there that

1582
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: haven't been proven and is more just speculation. But when

1583
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 3: accusations continue to pile up, connections to you know, things

1584
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,600
Speaker 3: outside a certain lifestyle start piling up, Dude, he's spiraling

1585
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: aggressively in the wrong direction here. And I mean, I mean, look,

1586
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 3: what was this halftime of an NBA Finals game. I mean,

1587
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 3: if this is like how you're operating, so you know, again,

1588
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: whether the alleged crimes happened or not, Like, what are

1589
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 3: you doing there like what it was like, you know, Like,

1590
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: I don't know if, if, like I should be more

1591
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 3: upset at the actual allegations, which are absolutely despicable and

1592
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 3: are consistent as you mentioned, across his recent timeline. Whether

1593
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 3: that means some of it is because he's a big

1594
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: star and you become a target or not, but he

1595
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: seems complicit in operating in spaces which set up these

1596
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 3: certain situations, which is just not you know, So I

1597
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 3: don't know if I'm I'm more mad than I should

1598
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: about get your shit together, dude, you know what I mean? Like,

1599
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: like you you have already in You've already executed one

1600
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 3: of the most outrageous careers that we've ever seen, you know,

1601
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: on such crazy high levels and marks, from finances to

1602
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 3: crossover appeal to the accomplishments inside the cage. It's really

1603
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 3: sad to see him just be this clown shell of

1604
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: himself who who is finished? Meaning mentally I think he's

1605
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 3: finished from this game. Doesn't mean he won't stop fighting.

1606
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 3: I just think he's finished. Finally, I've come up to

1607
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: speed with all where the haters were four fights ago. Right, Yeah,

1608
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: it's over. But it's really disappointing to see with everything

1609
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 3: he has accomplished, you know.

1610
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 5: To see the disappointing part is not that it might

1611
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 5: be over, like, of course it might be over, Like

1612
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 5: all of these things are going to come to an end.

1613
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 5: And again we talk about all the time, dude, if

1614
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 5: you're a price. This is true for everyone, but it's

1615
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 5: a specially it's acutely true for prize fighters, which is

1616
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 5: that the end of your career is a definite, and

1617
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 5: it might happen sooner than you think, and for all

1618
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 5: kinds of reasons it might happen sooner than you think.

1619
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,639
Speaker 5: But you know, the guy is thirty four. He gave

1620
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 5: away some of the best prime years thirty one, thirty two,

1621
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 5: thirty thirty three is getting a little up there, but

1622
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 5: these were prime years where he could have competed. He's

1623
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 5: thirty four, He's almost at the edge of like what

1624
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 5: is even possible in terms of beating elite lightweight.

1625
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: It's just from a statistical standpoint.

1626
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 5: But like the point I'm trying to make here about

1627
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 5: all of this with Connor is just that there are

1628
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 5: natural ends to all of these things, like they come

1629
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 5: apart in different ways at different times for everyone. But

1630
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 5: when you beat the game so quickly as Connor did

1631
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,759
Speaker 5: when you ascend to the heights he reached so quickly.

1632
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 5: I don't think he's ready necessarily to give up on

1633
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 5: the Fight game completely, but he's just living a life

1634
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 5: that is disconnected from it in every way other than celebrity.

1635
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: Well, the fight game, you know, may have already retired him,

1636
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 3: whether he's retired from it or not. Luke, you know

1637
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, from the way he's acted, you can't.

1638
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 3: You can't operate like that. You can't do it. So look,

1639
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 3: there were already reports before this allegation at the Heat

1640
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 3: Game about you know, we've seen some people on Twitter

1641
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: come not saying, Look, what I'm hearing is that Chandler

1642
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 3: McGregor is actually not going to happen. It's off. And

1643
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: we've seen some additional reporting that Charles Olivera is trying

1644
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 3: to jump in and throw his name into the mix

1645
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 3: best you can. What the hell does the second half

1646
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: of this year look like for McGregor or Chandler or like,

1647
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 3: what is the fallout here of this Ultimate Fighter?

1648
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: So here's my thought on this.

1649
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 5: If McGregor really changes his tune or whatever, just puts

1650
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 5: himself in this where he wants to get back, the

1651
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 5: UFC would obviously welcome it. So there's that, and I

1652
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 5: think if it really came down to it, McGregor or Usada,

1653
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 5: they're gonna pick McGregor. What I think this is just

1654
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 5: a theory, by the way, like this is or even

1655
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 5: a hypothesis, much less than the theory. But my view

1656
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 5: is that if he's going to come back, they want

1657
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 5: to wait until a point where he's not going to

1658
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 5: test positive for anything that maybe he had used to

1659
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 5: rehabilitate himself. And again, I'm one of the guys who

1660
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 5: has no problem with him taking stuff to rehabilitate after

1661
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 5: that devastating injury, like zero issue with it whatsoever. So

1662
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 5: like what the UFC probably wants to avoid at all

1663
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: costs is a situation where they let him skip the

1664
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 5: six month window and then he tests positive on top

1665
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 5: of it. That would be really really like that's like

1666
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 5: worst case scenario for them because then Connor's going to

1667
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 5: be involved in all of these bad headlines and it's

1668
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 5: gonna do all the stuff to his reputation and blah

1669
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 5: blah blah. They want to avoid that, my gut is

1670
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 5: at all costs, So they're at a bare minimum beyond

1671
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 5: connor like whether or not he even wants to do

1672
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:08,480
Speaker 5: this or not. There might be again, I'm just speculating

1673
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 5: there might be a bit of a window here where

1674
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 5: they kind of want to make sure that they're not

1675
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 5: gonna get caught like they did with Lesnar where they

1676
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,600
Speaker 5: wrote him that six months, Hey you can skip it,

1677
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 5: and then first fight back it blows up.

1678
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 6: You know.

1679
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is it's tough to see this. This

1680
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: is some some despicable bullshit here. How it pertains to

1681
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: the fights though? Yeah, I mean, I don't know Luke

1682
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 3: that apparently the deadline was today that he would have

1683
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 3: had to submit a clean opening sample to make him

1684
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 3: eligible after the six months for the final pay per

1685
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 3: view of the year in December. Obviously, with this allegations

1686
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: breaking out, I don't expect that to happen. I mean,

1687
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 3: do you do you do you want and or need

1688
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 3: to see more from UFC here than their typical response

1689
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 3: of like the law will take care of itself, you

1690
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like we don't. He's already paid enough,

1691
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: you know, I remember that after the Dolly incident, he's

1692
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 3: already paid enough millions in in lawyer fees and penalties.

1693
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 3: We don't need to, you know, we don't need I mean, look,

1694
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 3: they haven't jumped in on John Jones through any of

1695
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 3: these really awful headlines of late. They've been pretty consistent

1696
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 3: about the across the board on that. But what do

1697
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 3: you what do you expect from them in this in

1698
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 3: this regard if he gets convicted, is he done? I

1699
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 3: mean nothing, nothing seems to stop people.

1700
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, dude, he has let's be let's slow

1701
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: let's slow down.

1702
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 5: Like he hasn't even been charged, you know, I mean,

1703
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 5: let's we are far away from that kind of a scenario.

1704
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 5: But you know, yeah, like, what's the UFC gonna do nothing?

1705
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: Nothing? I mean, Dana White did not get charged with anything.

1706
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 5: To my knowledge about his incident where he exchanged blows

1707
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 5: with his wife on New Year's Eve, but the penalty

1708
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 5: was shame apparently that he was supposed to feel, which

1709
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 5: is like, I would love to be rich enough BC

1710
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 5: where I could argue a case with a straight face

1711
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 5: that I only deserve to suffer the shame of the

1712
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 5: incident and no other repercussions. Well, you got to be like,

1713
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 5: you know how like completely disconnected from the rest of us.

1714
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 5: You have to be wealthy for that to even be

1715
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 5: a thing in your mind where you would say in

1716
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 5: public but okay, so no, there. They have set the

1717
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 5: tone that like they don't want to be involved. The

1718
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,800
Speaker 5: UFC has really kind of said with all of these

1719
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 5: incidents unless it's like crazy, egregious or the person involved

1720
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 5: is easily expendable, they have basically just said, we don't

1721
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 5: want to be viewed as an entity that's going to

1722
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 5: take a stand here and just leave it at that.

1723
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: And I think that they will. I think that they will.

1724
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,600
Speaker 3: Well, there you go, Luke, that's some Uh, that's what

1725
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: it is. Do you think do you echo any of

1726
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 3: our fan base? And I got a lot of dms

1727
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 3: on this topic saying, wow, did you see yesterday UFC

1728
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 3: made a big announcement with three big main events the

1729
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: same you know, a couple hour space as Connor was

1730
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: negatively all over the news. Is that related to that all, Luke?

1731
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 3: That we now have Max Hollaway versus Korean Zombie and

1732
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 3: Singapore coming up this in August and a couple other

1733
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 3: fight announcements, is that related in your eyes?

1734
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 5: I doubt they're coincidental if you're the UFC would you

1735
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 5: want to put that out on a day with Connor

1736
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 5: McGregor news if you didn't have.

1737
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 3: To, well, it pushes it down in the news cycle, Luke.

1738
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 5: We just saw that with Francis, right, Yeah, I mean

1739
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 5: that's the whole point, Like everything runs on a reverse

1740
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 5: chronological order, so it pushes all that Connor MacGregor news

1741
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 5: down a little bit. But you know, the fights they

1742
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 5: announced were pretty good. If they're all true announcements, which

1743
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,839
Speaker 5: remains to be seen, then great. You know Corey Santagan

1744
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 5: versus Umar numagermadof two thumbs up from this Gallas to

1745
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 5: see if it's true quickly.

1746
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 3: Luke also in boxing this whole teo Fimo Lopez Junior

1747
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 3: retire This.

1748
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: One got you by surprise, admitting yeah.

1749
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, he also showed up at the

1750
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: second day of the Sprince Crawford press tour Wednesday in

1751
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 3: New York City in Times Square and did a bunch

1752
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 3: of interviews, and then right after that Luke officially announced

1753
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: his vacating his WBO title. Okay, so he's twenty five

1754
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 3: years old. He just scored an incredibly resounding victory. Bob

1755
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,400
Speaker 3: aram Is claiming that Tayl was under contract for a

1756
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 3: lot longer. Tayo Femo was complaining publicly that he's not

1757
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 3: going to keep taking these big fights for a million bucks.

1758
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 3: It was pointed out to him that the New York

1759
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: State Athletic Commission reported that he actually made two point

1760
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 3: three million for this fight against Josh Taylor. So now

1761
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: he's telling Luke everybody that that price he can't afford

1762
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 3: to pay anymore. What is this? Because some people are saying, well, look,

1763
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 3: he's got this custody hearing coming up with his with

1764
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: his ex wife divorce hearing where he's fighting for custody.

1765
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: Would it be better for him to have less assets

1766
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 3: and make it look like he's a retired fighter. I mean,

1767
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: I don't know about that. That seems like a reach, hair, Luke.

1768
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 3: But he is doubling and tripling down on yes, I'm retired.

1769
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: This has to be a public play for more leverage,

1770
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 3: you know, almost to Henry Sahudo type move. But like,

1771
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 3: can it work in this in the structure if he's

1772
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 3: under contract, Like, what's really happening here?

1773
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 5: In your eyes, Luke, I don't in any way believe

1774
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 5: we've seen the last of Tao Femo Lopez fighting. I

1775
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 5: don't in any way. He's twenty five years old. I

1776
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 5: don't believe that at all. What on earth is he

1777
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 5: going to do to make the kind of money he's

1778
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 5: making now elsewhere? Like, come on, he's he like he's

1779
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 5: gonna do commentary, Like you can be really good at

1780
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 5: boxing and be real bad at commentating, Like they're not

1781
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 5: necessarily like you know, aligned skills. So what's he going

1782
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 5: to do for money? If he's complaining he didn't get enough,

1783
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 5: that means you didn't make enough, like so which is it?

1784
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 5: So I just don't believe that he's in any way done.

1785
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 5: What I will say is BC is he willing to

1786
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 5: take an extended layoff? He is very much likely to

1787
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 5: take one of those. A year or two, I think

1788
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 5: is probably very much in order, potentially even three. I mean,

1789
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 5: think about it, he took three years off, he'd still

1790
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 5: only be twenty eight years old. That's still plenty of

1791
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 5: time to make some big money. You wouldn't advise taking

1792
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 5: that time off. So I think there's a lot of

1793
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 5: issues going on with his relationship with his promoter, relationship

1794
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:55,520
Speaker 5: with his father, relationship to the sport quite frankly, relationship

1795
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 5: almost to frankly anything in his orbit. It sounds like right,

1796
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 5: b See, he's a lot of shit going on that

1797
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 5: just seems to be sorted. I almost don't even mind

1798
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 5: that he has taken the break. Yeah, the only question

1799
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 5: in my mind is how long A year, A two,

1800
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 5: a three, let's find out.

1801
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be that long, so I think

1802
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 3: it might have. Look, it's certainly related, you would guess,

1803
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 3: in some regard to the turmoil in his personal life.

1804
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 3: Meaning let's take some time off. We're not getting back

1805
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 3: in a training camp. Let's go like try to you know,

1806
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: try to fight for a custody control of his son,

1807
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 3: and you know, whatever else goes into the what can

1808
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: be a very messy public dispute over a divorce. But look,

1809
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if staying out and doing this whole

1810
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 3: retirement thing can ultimately give him more leverage, though he

1811
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: seems to have some detailed plan. Remember he was part

1812
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 3: of the orchestration, it seems Luke on getting that Cambosa's

1813
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 3: fight to become a purse bid, meaning the two fighters

1814
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 3: being unable to agree to the terms financially that Aaron

1815
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 3: was offering, which then produces a per s baide and

1816
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 3: then Eddie Hern swept in stole that for one fight

1817
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 3: that seems calculated in orchest trade to some degree. This

1818
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 3: is an extension of that. But you know, Bob Aram's

1819
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 3: been through this before, so maybe it's just time off

1820
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 3: and here's hoping that his value can be raised while

1821
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 3: he's away and then comes swooping back when the next

1822
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 3: big fight approaches itself. The problem is there's a large

1823
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 3: number of big fights available in and around this division,

1824
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 3: of which he just had not only a world title

1825
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 3: but sort of a lineal claim from having beaten the

1826
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: most recent undisputed champion and Josh Taylor and soundly beating

1827
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,520
Speaker 3: him from what our eyes told us, despite those scorecards,

1828
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 3: there's still some crazy talk, it seems, coming off of

1829
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 3: his mouth, Luke, and he's still being inflammatory. Part of

1830
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: the interviews he gave at the Spence Crawford presser afterwards

1831
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 3: was like I tried, He said he tried to reach

1832
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,440
Speaker 3: out to ESPN to become a commentator during his retirement.

1833
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 3: They said no. Then he began to insult them in

1834
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 3: topperank for making female world champion Mikayla Mayer a part

1835
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 3: time commentator on like the Undercards and saying man, she

1836
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 3: doesn't know shit about boxing. Look, he was shitting on

1837
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 3: Michayla Mayer. Don't know if there's a rift there or

1838
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 3: what the connection is. But along with that other inflammatory

1839
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:05,759
Speaker 3: comment about ESPN and Talker.

1840
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: Probably just good old fashioned sexism is what I'm gonna get.

1841
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, favoring the black fighters over him. He's he's leaning

1842
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 3: all over the lines here? Is it purposeful? Is he

1843
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 3: losing control? But he put the he put Humpty Dumpty

1844
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 3: back together in the ring against Josh Taylor. I don't

1845
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 3: know where he goes next. I have no idea. Staying

1846
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 3: on the topic of where we were, how.

1847
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: Is he going to ask ESPN for a commentary gig?

1848
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, did the balls on that? You know what

1849
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, what would make you think that? Like

1850
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: you're good at that? You know what I mean? I

1851
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: just don't even understand that because you again, because your box.

1852
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 3: Oh he's a great talker. He is a great talker.

1853
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 5: But dude, no, no, he is a great Okay. I

1854
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 5: don't mean to say he's not an interesting guy. I

1855
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 5: want to get him on the RSD couch like I

1856
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 5: actually I actually like Lopez. But I just mean, there

1857
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 5: are moments where he says things that are so out

1858
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 5: there that you're like, let's rein it back in a

1859
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 5: little bit, dude. Being somebody who gives a decent SoundBite

1860
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 5: on like interviews for like YouTube based media is a

1861
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 5: completely different skill set than being a polished broadcaster for

1862
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 5: sporting events on a lineal linear TV network. Like, they're

1863
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 5: not even remotely the same fucking thing he is. There's,

1864
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 5: to my knowledge, no evidence he's good at the other

1865
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 5: one while being pretty good at the former.

1866
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, uh, it's just follow for more. Luke will

1867
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 3: see what happens as a wildlife living Spence Crawford. Days

1868
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 3: one and two of the press conference they were Tuesday

1869
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 3: and Wednesday. We hosted the remote one from LA on Tuesday.

1870
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 3: The next day we were in Times Square. Luke, I

1871
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,919
Speaker 3: am so damn fired up for this fight. After this experience,

1872
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: we got a chance to interview both fighters. You can

1873
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: go to YouTube dot com Showtime Sports is YouTube page.

1874
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 3: Excuse me to see our extended interview with both. Well,

1875
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 3: let's start right off the top, Luke, how much did

1876
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 3: your anticipation excitement level change from going through these two

1877
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 3: days and what ultimately did you learn about these two

1878
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 3: that has you fired up for July twenty nine.

1879
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 5: I don't know how much I learned new, although I

1880
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 5: thought the stories of them getting on FaceTime with one

1881
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 5: another to make the fight happen was really admirable on

1882
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 5: both their parts. I think a couple things stood up

1883
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 5: to me really a lot. I know that they the

1884
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 5: fans are saying, well, we're glad that this fight is happening,

1885
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 5: but couldn't have happened sooner? And the answer, of course

1886
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 5: is always that it could have happened sooner. Why didn't it? Man,

1887
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 5: when you really began to think about the weight of

1888
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 5: this fight, about what it means for these two individual

1889
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 5: gentlemen undefeated a combined a record of sixty seven and oh,

1890
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 5: when you think about the walterweight division, when you think

1891
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 5: about Bud tried to become undisputed in not one, but

1892
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 5: potentially two weight classes during the course of his career.

1893
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 5: We think about what it means for pound for pound

1894
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 5: and living up to the de la Joya Trinidad and

1895
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 5: other sort of major fights that have happened in this

1896
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 5: weight classes legacy. There's it's such a huge and important fight.

1897
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 5: Those fights are hard to make. I mean somebody has

1898
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 5: to You've heard Spence say it. Somebody has to risk

1899
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 5: something here. We have to show the suits that it's

1900
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 5: worth it that we did this. That's worth it, Like

1901
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 5: there's a value to doing it, you know. And I'm

1902
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 5: really glad he's leading by that. But you can see, man,

1903
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 5: there is a This was a hard fight to make

1904
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 5: for good reasons. That's the first thing I would say,

1905
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 5: not that I'm saying fans so just have to accept it,

1906
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 5: but that, like geez man, in the real world, like

1907
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 5: these fights are difficult to make. The other thing I

1908
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 5: took away from this BC was just how absolutely iron

1909
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 5: clad resolute their competitive spirits are.

1910
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: Ye.

1911
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 5: I mean, it was undeniable that both of them cannot

1912
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 5: even fathom anything other than their hand getting raised and

1913
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 5: probably after a tough fight, you know, a competitive finish

1914
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 5: for them in the end, like they just are you.

1915
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 5: They can't even bring them see itselves, to see a

1916
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 5: world where anything else happens. And so for that reason, stylistically, BC,

1917
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 5: I just could not be more excited for this fight.

1918
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 5: I'm excited that it's here. To put it mildly, and

1919
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 5: more to the point, I'm just grateful a fight like

1920
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 5: this gets to take place in that we get to

1921
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 5: watch it.

1922
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, we already already knew, always knew why this fight

1923
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,560
Speaker 3: could be so great, why it needed to happen, And

1924
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 3: then the delay either you know, helped it or in

1925
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 3: some parts of that run hurt it. But neither of

1926
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:19,600
Speaker 3: them have lost. They're still operating at the peak of

1927
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 3: their games at thirty five and thirty three, respectively, with

1928
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 3: Crawford a couple years older, and they you know, it's

1929
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 3: like they've beaten everybody else that they could. Keith Thurman

1930
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 3: didn't look like he was trying to get in the

1931
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 3: ring with Spence at all, so we never got that fight,

1932
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 3: but he fought every other welterweight he could. We've long

1933
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 3: known Karence Crawford had less access to big names, tried

1934
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 3: to fight everybody he could. Well, after you've cleared all

1935
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: those guys out, they both got to fight kill Brook

1936
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,599
Speaker 3: and Sean Porter, so there's some overlap at different times,

1937
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 3: but now you've got to fight one another, and it's

1938
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 3: for all the marbles, like you said, in every metric

1939
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 3: from the division to pound for pound to like who's

1940
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 3: the face of this welterweight era, But it's that old

1941
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 3: school thing that they keep mentioning. We keep mentioning because

1942
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 3: these guys have old school spirits. In fact, at the

1943
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 3: two at the Wednesday's Pressure in New York City, even

1944
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,560
Speaker 3: though this is a Showtime pay per view event, I

1945
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:06,640
Speaker 3: like that, Spence said. Look, when I was a kid,

1946
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 3: I grew up watching Legendary Nights on HBO and watching

1947
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 3: the documentaries of these old fights with Hagler and Hearns

1948
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: and Leonard and Duran and hearing their sound bites and

1949
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,560
Speaker 3: talk about the mentality and you know, Luke, that's the

1950
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 3: kind of stuff I came up on too. A lot

1951
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 3: of us did like that. You know, same thing with

1952
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 3: Showtimes all access series and all that, like get you

1953
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 3: fired up about that true feel like, look, it's a

1954
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 3: there's money involved, there's glory involved, there's all this stuff.

1955
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, the great ones

1956
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 3: are about legacy. It's about like, I can't sleep another

1957
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 3: night knowing that there's somebody out there that the general

1958
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 3: public things might be better than me. I got to

1959
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 3: get back in there and prove it. It took a

1960
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 3: long while on this modern business setup to get here.

1961
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: That's boxing's fault. But this fight is I mean, it's

1962
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 3: better timing than Mayweather Pakia for sure in terms of

1963
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 3: that one, just exceeding the expiration limit from what it

1964
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 3: could have been. I think this one, Luke, if these

1965
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,640
Speaker 3: two days of press conferences or any indication this is

1966
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 3: gonna be a you know, this is gonna be a

1967
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 3: killer fight because they bring with them that old school mentality,

1968
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 3: that same mindset that all those heroes had in the eighties.

1969
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 3: We talked with them about what this fight could look like,

1970
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 3: you know, action wise, as opposed to you know, sort

1971
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 3: of a safe chess match, which in some ways Mayweather

1972
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 3: Pakia was, and they just both seem so dialed in

1973
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 3: on I don't want to walk away from the sport

1974
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 3: without proving that I'm better than that guy, the guy

1975
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 3: that you have all asked me about every single day

1976
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,080
Speaker 3: for five plus years. And we didn't get you know,

1977
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: like a lot of great one liners or or pushing

1978
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 3: and shoving, but we didn't need it. And that's what

1979
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 3: I really like. You hear a lot of people in

1980
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 3: the comments section are talking on Twitter like great to

1981
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 3: see that these guys respect each other so much, But

1982
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 3: it hasn't slowed that commitment that resolved to know I'm

1983
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 3: not only gonna win this fight, I'm gonna go through

1984
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 3: you to get it done. You get the highest level

1985
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:57,839
Speaker 3: of skill mixed with the highest level of want in motivation,

1986
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 3: and you put it together, you get classic all time

1987
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 3: fights on a big stage with so much at stake.

1988
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 3: Let's go to some sound that we got. We had

1989
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 3: a chance because of Terrence Crawford's tight schedule to get

1990
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 3: them both at the same time after Wednesday's press stop

1991
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 3: to hear from their mindset about what goes into this matchup.

1992
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 3: Let's let's throw to that now, guys. Day two of

1993
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 3: the press coverage, it got fun, it got a little spiky.

1994
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 3: But Terrence, I want to ask you one thing. Amid

1995
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 3: all those fishing analogies, I did hear one thing I'm

1996
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 3: reeling him in to me that says I know I'm

1997
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 3: in his head. I saw you grab grab the lapel

1998
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 3: of Errol Spence.

1999
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 1: What was that most of the belt?

2000
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,160
Speaker 6: No, it just I don't think I'm in his head.

2001
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 6: I just think that it's been a long time coming.

2002
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 6: I've been calling for the fight. I've been asking for

2003
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 6: the fight. For whatever reason, it adn't happened. But he

2004
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 6: took the bait, and now July twenty ninth, we got

2005
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 6: the fight and I'm gonna get him to the bank.

2006
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 3: All right, all right, Errol, I've covered you a long time.

2007
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 3: I'll never forget ahead of your victory over Sean Porter.

2008
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 3: You said, Look, I'm faster than you on all these things,

2009
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 3: but that doesn't even matter, because when it comes down

2010
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 3: to it, I've got more dog than you, and I

2011
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: know it. That night you proved that you got your

2012
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 3: hand raised. Do you believe you have more dog than

2013
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 3: this man who's never been stopped, never been beaten, that

2014
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 3: that's possible here? July twenty ninth, Oh, definitely.

2015
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 11: I feel like I'm the eight pigs.

2016
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 8: You know.

2017
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 11: I feel like he definitely gonna come to fight. He

2018
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 11: definitely gonna, you know, try to put on he gonna

2019
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 11: put on a great performance. But you know, I feel

2020
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 11: like I'm just a betterfied overall. You know, I feel

2021
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 11: like I'm gonna break him. You know, he said he

2022
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 11: gonna reb me in and brand me to the bank.

2023
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 11: So we're definitely gonna see. I don't think you can

2024
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 11: reel me in. I don't think nobody got being no

2025
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 11: fishing pole to real me in.

2026
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 3: Look I have to say my favorite quote of the

2027
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 3: two days was when Spence got a little cheeky there

2028
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 3: with the well, we're from Jamaica, so we smoked bud.

2029
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 3: I mean he had me. He had me right there, Luke.

2030
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:54,960
Speaker 3: A lot of fishing.

2031
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: He got a good pot from the crowd too. There. Yeah.

2032
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 5: I like how you put in the sound of your

2033
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 5: questions being like, so you think this guy's all bitch.

2034
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say you. Let's say it right now.

2035
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't put that sound in, Luke, that was

2036
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 3: that was chosen, but uh it was. It was a

2037
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: good one, just the same to set that stage July

2038
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 3: twenty ninth, forty three days away at this point. But Luke,

2039
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: you'll be there. I unfortunately will be covering from home,

2040
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,560
Speaker 3: but you will be there. It'll be man, this is

2041
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 3: as good as it gets. I'm uh yeah, yeah. Hey.

2042
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 3: We had a good chat with Steven Espinoza to Luke

2043
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 3: about you know how hard this was to make, but

2044
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,560
Speaker 3: about you know, pushing back on that boxing narrative that

2045
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 3: was part of that stream of the big fights not happening.

2046
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 3: I mean, look, dude, this year's been really good. I mean,

2047
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 3: we got full in a new way coming up. I mean, dude,

2048
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 3: right now, it's like, can we get the rest of

2049
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 3: our shit together, Tyson Fury, could you stop fucking around?

2050
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, Tyson Fury spent the part of the week

2051
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 5: being like, yeah, I will fight John Jones and some

2052
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 5: other bullshit, and people just stop paying it.

2053
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: People just stopped paying attention.

2054
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 3: They're like, Jesher Fury, we love you, but you're ducking

2055
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 3: Alexander Usak right now. You are absolutely ducking him right now.

2056
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 3: Enough with the carnival fights, you know, like either fight

2057
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 3: Francis or don't, but like almost again, we don't care. Look,

2058
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 3: the big fights are being made elsewhere in this sport, Luke,

2059
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 3: it's a great momentum trend to go. I mean, are

2060
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,679
Speaker 3: you seeing these Canelo Jermal Charlow rumors?

2061
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 5: I mean things are yeah for September, which, if you know,

2062
01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 5: if my math is right BC, let me see, if

2063
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 5: I got this right, that would mean in order for

2064
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 5: if that were to happen, and let's be clear about this,

2065
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 5: if if that would likely be Canelo signing some kind

2066
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 5: of deal to be promoted in part by PBC to

2067
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 5: work with a PBC fighter essentially anyway, and because that's

2068
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 5: what Charlo is, which would mean that that fight again,

2069
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 5: if it were to happen, could be on showtime pay

2070
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 5: per view as a likely destination, which could mean we

2071
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 5: get to cover that fight.

2072
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 1: So I'd be really about that.

2073
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,919
Speaker 3: And you heard Samson Lukawitz, the promoter of David Benavitez,

2074
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 3: who had sent a big offer to Canelo but didn't

2075
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 3: get a response. They're talking about, Hey, how about David

2076
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 3: Morrell instead against David Benavite'z this fall. If all of

2077
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 3: these things fall into place, that's a hell of a

2078
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 3: final four at one sixty eight. It's such a deep

2079
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: and amazing division right now. Damn damn, Luke, let's keep

2080
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,360
Speaker 3: it going. A topic five here on the way out

2081
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 3: is boxing from this weekend Saturday night showtime Sunday in

2082
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 3: Australia from I forgot the name of the town there, Luke.

2083
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 3: Is it Queensland, Australia, somewhere down by the beach? Boy?

2084
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:20,640
Speaker 8: Ye?

2085
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,879
Speaker 3: Timsu's back, So, Luke, here's the deal. It was supposed

2086
01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 3: to be Timsuo versus Jamel Charlo for all four titles

2087
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 3: at one fifty four back in January. Then injury to

2088
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:33,680
Speaker 3: Charlo delayed it. We had tim Zu takeing on the

2089
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 3: only man to have beaten Damel Charlo Tony Harrison and

2090
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 3: blew him away on a Showtime International broadcast. We thought

2091
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 3: that meant July was the showdown between these two. Unfortunately,

2092
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 3: Charlo has pulled out with injury again of the talks

2093
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 3: and says at the end of the summer is a

2094
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 3: more likely comeback for him. So Timzu has chosen to

2095
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,679
Speaker 3: stay busy. Carlos Ocampo comes his way. Thirty five wins,

2096
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 3: just two defeats, both in title losses. It was a

2097
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 3: first round nockout against Earl Spencer Walter. Wait, and you

2098
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,559
Speaker 3: may remember that interim one fifty four slugfest he put

2099
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 3: on indefeat against Sebastian Fundora. This is Tim Zu kind of,

2100
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 3: you know, keeping the ball rolling the best he can

2101
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 3: while we all still wait for Charlo. It's going to

2102
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 3: be a Showtime broadcast this weekend. I caught up with

2103
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 3: Tim Zuo four throwt here to Luke let Let's let's

2104
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 3: hear tim Zuo's mindset coming in. He's got to wait

2105
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 3: for Charlo, but nobody, nobody makes Tim Zu wait in

2106
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 3: the corner. Okay, let's hear this.

2107
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I think in the super WATO division, I

2108
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:37,719
Speaker 8: think Tommy Harrison's got the probably the most superior boxing skills.

2109
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 8: He's his IQ's up there at the very very top,

2110
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,840
Speaker 8: and he comes from a bloodline of boxes. I knew

2111
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 8: to be able to send that message, even though I

2112
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 8: had the Jamel Charlo, I had the shot at the FOT,

2113
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 8: I could have waited. I wanted to send that message

2114
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 8: that you know what, no one I will take on anyone,

2115
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:08,799
Speaker 8: even if I got opportunities, I'll riskchedule. That's the message

2116
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,560
Speaker 8: that I wanted to send out. And I think the

2117
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 8: message Jewels was loud and clean.

2118
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 3: Look another message he sent out after that, Harrison Winn

2119
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,680
Speaker 3: was yelling say my mother, f and name into the microphone,

2120
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 3: which he said was his way of telling the general

2121
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: boxing public. I'm not my dad. Don't compare me to him,

2122
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 3: the Hall of Famer coach Jazoo. I'm my own fighter,

2123
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 3: and I'm making it happen right now. Look at the

2124
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,880
Speaker 3: very least she got to applaud him staying busy when

2125
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,560
Speaker 3: he could easily just be sitting back and waiting for

2126
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 3: the payday in the four title opportunity with Charlow. Instead,

2127
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 3: he's adding to his resume in between.

2128
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, it's a stay busy fight. I think it's

2129
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:45,639
Speaker 5: a fair way to put it. It's a stay busy fight.

2130
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 5: But I'll take that far more than I will inactivity.

2131
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,799
Speaker 5: And as we saw, like you know, did Tank Davis

2132
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 5: need to fight Hector Garcia probably didn't need to fight him,

2133
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 5: but he did.

2134
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: It was a fun fight.

2135
01:39:57,240 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 5: It was probably a little bit valuable for him to

2136
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 5: stay competitive, and I think by the time he fought

2137
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 5: Ryan Garcilla. You know, many factors contributed to Tanks win,

2138
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 5: but in retrospect, him being a little bit more active

2139
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 5: was probably one of them. So you know, I don't

2140
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 5: expect anything other than a Tim Sue victory. I'll be

2141
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 5: honest about that.

2142
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: But just the same, I'm glad that this is much

2143
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: better than the alternative. Just for yes, it is.

2144
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 3: Well. Look, something Tim echoed with me and you can

2145
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 3: check out that video and full on our YouTube channel,

2146
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 3: is that he's become such a better fighter from this experience.

2147
01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he went in there against Tony Harrison, the

2148
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 3: only guy to beat Charlo, a guy who such a

2149
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 3: good boxer with some pop and dude, he just walked

2150
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 3: him down and bullied him, and when you consider that

2151
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 3: he made his US debut a year before against Terrell

2152
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 3: Gosche and even though he won a decision, he got

2153
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 3: dropped in the first round. His defense was all out

2154
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 3: of whack. He was just running into contact, trying almost

2155
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 3: too aggressively to make a big statement to now get

2156
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 3: the experience of handling somebody as difficult as Harrison and

2157
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 3: look in this matchup, Tim's a big betting favorite. We

2158
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 3: expect him to win, but okay, IPO's got a chin

2159
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 3: he comes to fight. This could be a fun one

2160
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 3: in that regard. All these experiences are keeping that momentum going,

2161
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 3: like you said, like Tank did, staying fresh, staying sharp,

2162
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 3: adding Payday's all of that, and you know, continuing to

2163
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 3: build the brand. Tim Zuo's twenty eight years old. He's

2164
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 3: kind of putting the entire thing together here as he

2165
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,519
Speaker 3: looks to get closer to making history and take on

2166
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 3: the four Belts with Charlo. But you know, the potholes

2167
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 3: come your way. I'm happy the way he's sidestepped them

2168
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 3: and tried to make something of it. And we'll see

2169
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 3: it this Saturday night with a Showtime International Boxing Teleguest.

2170
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 3: Also this weekend, Luke on his own Regis Progray makes

2171
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 3: the first defense of his new title reign at one

2172
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 3: point forty, taking on late replacement dan Alito Zoria. I've

2173
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 3: covered zarea before. Luke on Ring City with NBC. He's

2174
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,320
Speaker 3: from Puerto Rico. He's a big time puncher. But Pro

2175
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 3: Gray is a rightful betting favorite. This is a better

2176
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 3: matchup though than the original one, Liam Paro. It's rare

2177
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 3: when you get sort of an upgrade in that, so

2178
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 3: it'd be interesting to see old Regis here, who I

2179
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 3: did talk to as well in the build up to

2180
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 3: this one. Luke one forty red hot right now, So

2181
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,960
Speaker 3: if Reis survives in advance here, you know, it could

2182
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 3: be Hainey, it could be it could be Tank, it

2183
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 3: could be Ryan Garcia in the future. I mean, look,

2184
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 3: did you see Tanks Trainer Calvin Ford went public again

2185
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 3: and said the only two names we care about now

2186
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 3: are are uh Sha Ker Stevenson and Devin Hainey. Because

2187
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 3: you guys said that that they're that they're better than Tank,

2188
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 3: so let's figure it out. I'm not saying those fights

2189
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 3: are easy to make, but this is the type of

2190
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 3: public speech and momentum you would want from Team Tank.

2191
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Sure, let's just see what actually happens. Let's just see

2192
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 1: what I mean.

2193
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 3: He's got to get out of prison first, Luke. We

2194
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 3: gotta we gotta clean something.

2195
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, that's that's one issue. Beyond that.

2196
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 5: I mean, once that's over, it's not a lengthy stay

2197
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 5: that he has there. Once that is over, what do

2198
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 5: they actually do?

2199
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: I don't.

2200
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot to It's the listen. I

2201
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 5: love Calvin Ford. I don't have anything bad to say

2202
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 5: about what he is saying. I'm glad to hear it.

2203
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 1: But the.

2204
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,880
Speaker 5: To what extent that ends up matching reality? Given what

2205
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 5: we know about what can happen, Let's just see, let's.

2206
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 3: Just right, Luke. We transitioned to our weekly betting segment,

2207
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: where you and I go head to head five picks apiece.

2208
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:13,640
Speaker 3: Whoever's best at the end of the year is to

2209
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 3: force the other one to go to a concert that

2210
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 3: they definitely don't want to be at with MK doc

2211
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 3: camera's present. I hope.

2212
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that. You mean us carrying

2213
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: cell phones?

2214
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,759
Speaker 3: Uh, it's called okay bet.

2215
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 5: Now, BC, Can I just say I went, I think

2216
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,439
Speaker 5: I went, oh to five last week. I think I've

2217
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,800
Speaker 5: gone oh and five twice. You never have, no, So

2218
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 5: I just want to point out something I've whiffed completely

2219
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 5: two different times, and I'm.

2220
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 1: Still beating you. Dude. That is fucking in that you

2221
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: are indefensibly bad.

2222
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 3: They're giving you a draw. How are you getting a

2223
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,400
Speaker 3: draw here? Like they say you went four and one

2224
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 3: last week.

2225
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: Then maybe one of the five fell out or something.

2226
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: I think that may have happened.

2227
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 3: That's right, okay, so either way.

2228
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: Either way, either way, got them all wrong. Let's just

2229
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: be host about you. Boy.

2230
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 3: BC went three and two last week. Not bad. So

2231
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm catching up a little bit your updated standing though.

2232
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:16,680
Speaker 1: You went two and three, bitch, I was told three

2233
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: and two.

2234
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 3: What is going on here?

2235
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 5: You went two and three, You went two and three. Listen, dude,

2236
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 5: you could literally look at my numbers. You could literally

2237
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 5: flip a coin and have the exact same result. You

2238
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 5: should never take betting advice from BC and I. We

2239
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 5: are fucking horrendous.

2240
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,800
Speaker 3: Okay, you can take that back. Look, I've had some

2241
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 3: big wins in this stretch, all right. You are now

2242
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 3: just barely over five hundred at thirty nine thirty eight

2243
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 3: with some change, and I am thirty three and forty six,

2244
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 3: six games behind only so this week, Luke, you're the

2245
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 3: champion's advantage here. You've been in first place this entire run.

2246
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 3: You're going first or second.

2247
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:54,800
Speaker 1: I will go first if you're okay with that?

2248
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, all right here what they're saying,

2249
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 3: hold on quick quickly. Mikey's letting me that Chris Curtis

2250
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 3: was a no contest which produced the draw in your.

2251
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 5: Ah, fair enough, yes, because it would have been a

2252
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 5: loss otherwise. But okay, fair enough, all right, So neither

2253
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 5: here nor there very quickly. So for Maine, I kind

2254
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 5: of messed this up. But b C and I already

2255
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 5: talked about this before the show. He let it slide,

2256
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna leave it where it is. For my

2257
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 5: main pick, it's not really main, but because there's a

2258
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,679
Speaker 5: title on the line, we're gonna let it stick. Gonna

2259
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 5: go with Pitbull Pitbull over Sergio Pettis. Now, Sergio Pettis

2260
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 5: being off two years makes this a strange one. I

2261
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 5: don't really know how I feel about it. It could

2262
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 5: go a lot of different directions, but I kind of

2263
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 5: just feel like he's got the slight edge here, and

2264
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 5: I think in the end, oh, I should say he's

2265
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 5: got at least a slide edge for all the unknowns.

2266
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 5: Uh So I'm gonna ride with pit Bull here, give

2267
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:44,479
Speaker 5: me a pippy you think.

2268
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 3: Do you think if this fight goes to the ground,

2269
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 3: he's gonna have a big edge with the submission ability? Loogue?

2270
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 5: Dude, who's got one of some of the best guillotines

2271
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 5: in the sport? It is Patricio Pitbull. I think he

2272
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 5: would very much have an advantage on the floor.

2273
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Yes.

2274
01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 3: Do you like Pettis's takedown take down defense, in his

2275
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 3: his ability to uh to work in the clinch hair

2276
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 3: against a stronger pup.

2277
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 2: I do.

2278
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,640
Speaker 5: And I also like his footwork to largely keep him

2279
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 5: out of trouble. I mean, don't get me wrong, I

2280
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 5: think Pettis will make it a difficult fight for him

2281
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. The question is in a

2282
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 5: five round about how much can you really resist the

2283
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 5: overwhelming power and pressure? That's to me the part that

2284
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,719
Speaker 5: I just have a hard time seeing him get around.

2285
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 1: But we shall see.

2286
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 3: We shall minus one seventy Pitple your favorite plus one

2287
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 3: forty five. Pettis my main luke. I'm gonna go to

2288
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 3: the UFC here, so we can differentiate a little bit

2289
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 3: because I also like Pitbull in that matchup. My main

2290
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,599
Speaker 3: event PIC is going to be the UFC Vegas Middleway

2291
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 3: till and I'm gonna take Jared Cannoneer here as a

2292
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 3: slight I believe underdog in this matchup. Is that Is

2293
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 3: that the truth? Luke? Yeah, I guess we are plus

2294
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 3: one oh five Cannoneer minus one twenty five Vittori. Look,

2295
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,759
Speaker 3: unless this is a Tory's night to make that ultimate

2296
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 3: statement to to go plus level, I mean, look, he

2297
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 3: does a lot of things well across the board. He's

2298
01:46:57,439 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 3: a competent wrestler, he's aggressive his boxing technique. Look, he's

2299
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,799
Speaker 3: able to to some degree stay with the very elites

2300
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 3: and and get to that point, get to that title level.

2301
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 3: But unless this is the fight where to that SoundBite

2302
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,600
Speaker 3: we showed with Shaq, he really does go after it.

2303
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,719
Speaker 3: I still like Cannonear here as the more technical, better fighter.

2304
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:20,960
Speaker 3: And if if Vittori goes after it, you're still going

2305
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:22,640
Speaker 3: up against a guy who's got the biggest weapon in

2306
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 3: the battle, and that's cannon Near's countershots, especially with that

2307
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 3: big right hand. Here, Luke Cannonier. I think in his heart,

2308
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 3: as a true competitor, knows that he laid an egg

2309
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 3: against against uh Adasania. He stuck to the game plan

2310
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,839
Speaker 3: too much right to try to get as close as possible.

2311
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 3: His defense was sound. He was in that fight, but

2312
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 3: didn't do enough to really be in that fight, and

2313
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,640
Speaker 3: that's got to eat at him. He's still operating at

2314
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,680
Speaker 3: such a high level in his late thirties here, but

2315
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 3: he's the better fighter of the two at the end

2316
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 3: of the day, with the bigger power. You still you're

2317
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 3: telling me we're gonna get an aggressive a tory. I'm

2318
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 3: telling you that's the best way to make Cannoneer shine.

2319
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna lean that way in my main EVENTPIC.

2320
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,639
Speaker 5: All right, fair enough, So on my end of things

2321
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 5: for the underdog, I could not believe some of these numbers,

2322
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 5: but they are where they are. I think he's at

2323
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 5: plus one forty five. I'm trying to find Oh, here

2324
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 5: we go, Yes, Phil Davis plus one forty five according

2325
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 5: to our friends at Caesars, to Corey Anderson's minus one seventy.

2326
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 5: I'm not even saying I disagree necessarily with him being

2327
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 5: the underdog, but just given how careful and still how

2328
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 5: good Phil Davis is. I think that's a worthy kind

2329
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 5: of bet to make. Give me Phil Davis plus one

2330
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 5: forty five as my underdog pick.

2331
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 3: That's a tough fight for Corey Anderson. It's a very

2332
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 3: tough fight, There's no question about it. My underdog pick

2333
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 3: is on that Belzer card to open. I'm gonna go

2334
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,040
Speaker 3: with that big heavyweight six foot six, forty one years old.

2335
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 3: Daniel James only a plus one hundred underdog against Gokan

2336
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 3: Seracom Luke Gocan. Every time he steps up, he does

2337
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 3: get stopped against higher level competition. Is Daniel James that

2338
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 3: higher level and Belotour? I think he is. He's on

2339
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,720
Speaker 3: a nice run. He seems to be decently durable in there,

2340
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 3: and he does have big power in finishing instincts. I

2341
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 3: think he gets to that title shot. Give me him

2342
01:48:57,960 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 3: plus one hundred here. I think he's gonna get a ko.

2343
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 3: He's got to avoid the ground hearing and not get

2344
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 3: caught here. Luke, you gotta get be careful. But this

2345
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 3: is a big moment at home for him. Let's see

2346
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 3: him shine.

2347
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2348
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 5: I think that's pretty fair as well. Again, that's a

2349
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:11,360
Speaker 5: tough one to call. That one could go a lot

2350
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 5: of different directions.

2351
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: All Right, for my.

2352
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 5: Favorite pick, I don't think he's a substantial favorite. In fact,

2353
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 5: I think it's fairly slight. But they've got Pat Sabatini

2354
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 5: our friends over at Caesars as a minus one ninety

2355
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 5: to Lucas Almetis plus one sixty. I had not to

2356
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,200
Speaker 5: say that the Damon Jackson fight was some kind of fluke.

2357
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 5: Damon Jackson's pretty good and has actually improved a lot

2358
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 5: of late, but I just don't feel like that was

2359
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 5: a fair reflection necessarily of the upside of Pat Sabatini.

2360
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 5: I think this fight is gonna get us a little

2361
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,880
Speaker 5: bit closer. Could take him some time to really work

2362
01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 5: towards a more dominant control of the fight, but I

2363
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 5: think he'll get there eventually. Give me Pat Sabatini as

2364
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 5: my favorite.

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01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 3: All right, my favorite, Luke, I'm gonna go to that

2366
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 3: bellatour interesting fight there at light havevyweight that you took

2367
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 3: the opposite of you took the Phil Davis undercar underdog.

2368
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take minus one to eighty. Quote Corey Anderson

2369
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 3: as your favorite. We identified the million ways that this

2370
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 3: is a very tough matchup. It's just hard to look

2371
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,560
Speaker 3: good and get off enough offense against Phil Davis to

2372
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 3: sway the judges. He's hard to hurt. He's a lot

2373
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 3: of hard things fighting him. But look, we had Corey

2374
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,719
Speaker 3: Anderson on the RSD couch ahead of the Nemcov rematch,

2375
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,719
Speaker 3: and man, was he operating at such a high level

2376
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 3: of confidence in bringing his whole game mentally and physically together.

2377
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 3: I was impressed by chatting with him, and then he

2378
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 3: underachieved in that rematch with mkov and and and was

2379
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 3: humbled in a lot of ways. I still think there's

2380
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,600
Speaker 3: enough left under his hood. He's going to have to

2381
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 3: make this a fight. He's going to have to try

2382
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 3: to take Phil Davis down, even though that's going to

2383
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 3: be diffaul. He's gonna have to operate out of high

2384
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 3: pace and bring the fight to Phil and try to

2385
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 3: make this a fight. But the hunger of Anderson, he

2386
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 3: does have some sneaky boxing, especially with that left hook.

2387
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna take a run here on him, Luke,

2388
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 3: it's weird. I'm not picking the favorite, but it almost

2389
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 3: feels like, because it's such a close fight on paper,

2390
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 3: that he's gonna have to do some things and make

2391
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 3: a leap, but I think that's his motivation. Look, Korey

2392
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 3: Anderson's coming on. I'm going to take him.

2393
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: Here, all right? Fair enough for over Under? Will the

2394
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 1: fight go the distance? Will it not go the distance?

2395
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: For me?

2396
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 5: Give me Marvin Vtori versus Jared Kennone or as going

2397
01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 5: the distance? I feel like this one's going to be

2398
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,640
Speaker 5: one on volume, It's going to be one on accumulation.

2399
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 5: It's going to be very much Who did you give

2400
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 5: that round two? And did they get three of them

2401
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,559
Speaker 5: or did they not? One of those kinds of fights

2402
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:26,080
Speaker 5: where it's almost arithmetic in that way. It's certainly possible

2403
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 5: with two guys this good that a crazy.

2404
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: Finish could happen. You don't want to ever deny it.

2405
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 5: But both guys, in addition to being good, are also

2406
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:36,040
Speaker 5: kind of careful at this point in their careers as well.

2407
01:51:36,120 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 5: When you get careful and sturdy at the same time,

2408
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 5: it likely goes the distance.

2409
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 3: My over Under goes to the Showtime International Main event

2410
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 3: in Australia. Look, Carlo's ballsy call Carlso Campo's toughest shit.

2411
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 3: So it's he's never He's only been knocked out by

2412
01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 3: a body punch against Earl Spence. He scored he went

2413
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 3: by the way, he went twelve and zero with nine

2414
01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 3: KOs between the Spence loss and then that Fendora loss.

2415
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,799
Speaker 3: He's a tough out, but he also has a style,

2416
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 3: coming straight ahead with his with the you know, reckless

2417
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 3: defense sometimes head down. Tim Zuo's gonna be able to

2418
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 3: control mid distance against him and tear him up with

2419
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 3: power shots. It may end up coming due to a cut,

2420
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna take the under Give give me another stoppage,

2421
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 3: a big one here for tim zoo on home zoil

2422
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 3: home soil to really start to churn that butter and

2423
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 3: get us fired up for Charlo Luke. Okay, this is

2424
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 3: a this is I like that pick.

2425
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: That's a ballsy pick by you. I like that one. Last,

2426
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,559
Speaker 1: but not least ko or sub give me ormin sar

2427
01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 1: yuki in versus jo a kim. I think it's how

2428
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: they spell it or I pronounce it.

2429
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 5: Excuse me, uh silva ending in ko for that one,

2430
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,000
Speaker 5: which by the way, could be in silva on the

2431
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 5: feet getting the job done because he is something of

2432
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 5: a ko threat a little bit but more likely than that.

2433
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,599
Speaker 5: I think it ends up with Silva getting finished off,

2434
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 5: probably on the ground. I like the fight to end

2435
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 5: that way, soar Yuki in Silva.

2436
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Ko.

2437
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna go to my PFL five main event

2438
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,560
Speaker 3: tonight in Atlanta and tell you that Anti Delizia is

2439
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 3: gonna knock out Maurice Green in this Maine event. I'm

2440
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:02,000
Speaker 3: to take the ko in this fight. It could go

2441
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 3: either way in terms of the rules of this, but

2442
01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 3: I think the defending champ comes back with a bang

2443
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 3: here against John Jones's teammate.

2444
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 1: Thank you.

2445
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,439
Speaker 3: Okay, let's close with some pedantic bullshit, Luke, so you

2446
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 3: can hit the restroom.

2447
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 1: Correct, Yes, I have to go number two. I have

2448
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: to go potty.

2449
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 3: Are you crowning like the King of England?

2450
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: Or we don't tell you.

2451
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 5: You cannot believe how much it is. I'm sweating right now.

2452
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:23,840
Speaker 5: I really need your help to a.

2453
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 3: Turtle head just popped out. Let's go to this dead

2454
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 3: wrong segment here it is. It's your chance to shit

2455
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 3: on us, all right.

2456
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 5: I need to be like Cartman, you know, who's got

2457
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 5: his mom holding a dish under his rear end when

2458
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 5: he's playing World of Warcraft.

2459
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 3: You know, mor Than Kombat at gmail dot com is

2460
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 3: your chance to call us out on our bs. And

2461
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 3: this one's from Daz in Hawaii Aloha. During episode four

2462
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 3: fifty two at one hour and fifty minutes, when discussing

2463
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:52,640
Speaker 3: Justine Kish's accident in the Octagon, BC incorrectly mentions that

2464
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: the Ish came out all over the Octagon after she

2465
01:53:56,000 --> 01:54:00,639
Speaker 3: got submitted. BC she actually lost via decision to Felice

2466
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 3: Harrig and was able to escape a tight, rare naked

2467
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 3: choka attempt in round three, possibly when the Ish knuck out. No,

2468
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 3: definitely when that shit came out. For what it's worth,

2469
01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 3: bc or description makes it sound like she went unconscious

2470
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 3: and she shat herself as always enjoying the content. Mahaalow,

2471
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 3: it's dazz looke. I guess that's an L. It's certainly

2472
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 3: an L because I said that she got subbed out

2473
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 3: and put to sleep, so it was a decision win.

2474
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 3: But do you think she was put out briefly and

2475
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 3: that's what that's what caused the brain to tell the uh,

2476
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 3: the waste management system to begin.

2477
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 1: That would make sense, That would make sense, right?

2478
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 3: That is disgusting as shit, Luke. Maybe we should wear,

2479
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 3: so maybe we.

2480
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: Got about sixty seconds with me. We better use them effect.

2481
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 3: Okay. Our final, Our final dead wrong is from Michael

2482
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 3: on the Monday Morning show. BC and l NLT were

2483
01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 3: dead wrong and discussing Jim Miller saying he had no

2484
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 3: big wins when he has beaten Serni. Do Bronx Takenori

2485
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 3: Gomi and a few others contradict your take?

2486
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:04,839
Speaker 5: Love you guys, Oh dude, none of those guys. Maybe Sarni,

2487
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 5: maybe Serroni was I have to double check that, but

2488
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:09,920
Speaker 5: do Bronx go me. None of those guys were ranked

2489
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 5: when Miller beat him.

2490
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 3: It's still a big win if you beat Charles Oliver

2491
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 3: in any setting. I didn't mean he didn't have mean

2492
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 3: big win.

2493
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying. I'm not saying that that. I'm not

2494
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 5: saying that there's no value to beat him. It's not

2495
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. What I'm saying is what you are

2496
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 5: measured against if you want to be in the Hall

2497
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 5: of Fame is how good were the guys when you

2498
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 5: beat them? And they were not nearly, at any respect

2499
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 5: at the level of their peak when Jim Miller beat them.

2500
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: The Soroni want to have to double check.

2501
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 5: But I know for a fact that's true for Gomey

2502
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 5: and Olaveraic because I did double check those ones. So

2503
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 5: the Serroni win is nice. But again, another guy who

2504
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 5: didn't win a title. How many wins against former champions

2505
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 5: in their primes area did did he get them?

2506
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: There's just not There's just not many like that.

2507
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 3: There's just not still in the Hall of Fame.

2508
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 5: All right, BC, I love you. I know we have

2509
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,040
Speaker 5: to do some stuff after the show, so I'll stay on,

2510
01:55:58,160 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 5: but I'm going to pull a BC and I just

2511
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 5: have to go.

2512
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 1: I have to go, all right? Did I have to go? By?

2513
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 3: I'm done for Gaff, Pierre Long Island, Luke behind the scenes,

2514
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 3: Mikey morrim I'll always lingering. This has been a great

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Speaker 3: For our great staff, for LT in the commode. Yeah,

2530
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 3: it's like it's like Knakasaki over there, right, you know,

2531
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Speaker 3: Oh wow, Hiroshima too. We're out of here. It's BC where.

2532
01:57:07,160 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 3: Thank you, It's over. Thank you. That's all I got.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy your weekend's