1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Clay in Buck, and we'll 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: return to some of our some of the the legal 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: process questions here which are intricate, and I have a 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: couple of I actually have a friend who is a 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: former federal prosecutors texting me about it right now, saying, 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: you know that it is complicated, but basically the federal 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: judge Clay in Atlanta, in Atlanta for that district, that 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: we'll be able to weigh in on whether it stays 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: in federal court or not. So it is not up 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: to the state judge. It's a motion that goes to 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: the federal judge. Removal is automatic based on a filing 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: of notice. All right, man, we'll get we'll get into 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: some more of this. 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: But so everybody out there listening is gonna get basically 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: a crash course in constitutional law over the next year, 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: and it's impossible to avoid it. And to your point, 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: like this is stuff that even makes lawyers heads roll 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: back into their head. I mean, you have to be 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: a process scholar in order to even think about how 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: all this is going to play out. And I hope 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Trump has elite legal representation, which we have talked about before, 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: because this is when you definitely need the best lawyers 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 2: in your quiver, so to speak. 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: And there's also gonna be an element of chance here. 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: The claud I were just talking about this a moment ago, 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: and based on the way trials normally go, these four indictments, 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Trump would be if he were just a normal person, 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: like an everyday person, he'd be in court, and first 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: of all, it would be delayed. Certainly, it wouldn't happen 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: in the next year, as I think there's no doubt 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: about that, he'd probably be dealing with these legal issues 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: for years to come, right, years and year. I mean, 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: he might be four or five years out still figure. 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: But this is not normal. That's the This is not 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: normal in so many ways. And just the fact that 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: all of these cases Clay were held, all of them simultaneously, 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: the indictments brought so that they are timed during the 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: election year, effectively during the election cycle. Really that's not normal. 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: That's not an accident, right, that's not coincidence. This is 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: people trying to scheme the system and weaponize it against Trump, 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: as we've said so many times. So it's with that 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: in mind that I think we're trying to figure out 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: where this all goes if he gets the right judges, 44 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: or if this Appeals Court and perhaps even Supreme Court 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: steps in, maybe that is the salvation of justice here. 46 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be it's gonna be a bit of 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: a wild ride. I wanted to just switch gears for 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: a second. I'm pretty sure at one point on Rotten Tomatoes. Okay, 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't want to say the number, but 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: it was certainly like a top five for a while 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: in Rotten Tomatoes in terms of audience loving it. And 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: I think it was the most watched or the most 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: beloved movie that Netflix had rights to for a while, 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: the blind Side, Yes, And I would wager that what 55 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: seventy five five percent of the audience has seen this 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: movie probably, I think that's fair. I mean, it's between 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: theaters and TV. This was a it made three hundred 58 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: million dollars domestically. Uh. It is a Sandra Bullock film, 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: and it's about the Towey family, and it's a very 60 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: it's a very feel good movie. Like you know, everyone 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: I think comes away from it feeling like wow, it's 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: such an inspiring story. And now Michael or saying his 63 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: name right, right, that's right? Yeah, yeah, it played in 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: the NFL for a number of years. The movie is 65 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: based on his life story and and the Toui family. 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: He went to the NFL for a number of years, 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: made something like thirty million dollars as a player, and 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: he has turned around now and now I'm trying to 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: get into what's reported versus what is established. Essentially said 70 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: that he was taken advantage of by the Towey family. 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big for a lot of 72 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: people that love that movie and it takes it's a 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: it was a tennis ten yeah, Memphis, Yeah, it was Memphis, right, yeah, Okay, 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: takes place in Tennessee. Do you have a you know, 75 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: what can you tell us about this one? Because this 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: is like pop culture world, sports world. Now in the 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: just the news cycle of politics, you think the Tuwey 78 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: family is getting an unfair rap here because to me, 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: it seems like, really, after all these years and all 80 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: the money that was made and all the stories, now 81 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: this this guy or turns around and says allegedly he 82 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: wanted fifteen million dollars from them. Yeah. So for people 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: out there who don't remember. 84 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: This movie, this is a high school kid in Memphis 85 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: whose family is incredibly impoverished. 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: He is a very talented football player. 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: He plays left tackle eventually for Ole Miss that's the 88 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: University of Mississippi. He's drafted in the first round. He 89 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: makes I think thirty five million dollars during his career 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: eight years in the NFL first round draft pick. And 91 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: the story of the blind Side is that he is 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: adopted by this wealthy white family in Memphis that allows 93 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: him to fulfill his full expectations. And the movie is, 94 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: like you said, Buck made over three hundred million dollars. 95 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: I think didn't Sondra Bullock win an Oscar for this? 96 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: In terms of yes, she. 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Did it, I think commercially her most successful film ever, 98 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: certainly higher on the Thespian scale than say, Speed, which, 99 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: while enjoyable, is preposterous. 100 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: Speed is fantastic, I love, But how many speeds did 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: they make? The first Speed was what they made speed too, right, 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: It was a cruise ship. 103 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Think about that for a second. It goes from you're 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: on a bomb, there's a bomb on the bus, and 105 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: if it goes below forty five miles an hour it 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: blows up to you're on a cruise ship. Yeah. 107 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: The premise of the initial Speed was tough to look 108 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: a while. That was Keanu Reeves with Sondra Bullock, right, 109 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Am I correct? 110 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: In the original Speed? Yeah? I was a big Keanu 111 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: fan before the John Wick franchise. 112 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: Uh and even better you're suggesting for Sondra Bullock than Miscongeniality, 113 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: which I think they also made multiple versions of. Or 114 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: wasn't she the girl love interest in the Firm back 115 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: in the day? Isn't that Sondra Bullock with Tom Cruise 116 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: in the initial Firm? 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: That's that's? 118 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 119 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Krak Kurt Ashley Judd. No, No, not Ashley Judd. Nope, Nope, nope, 120 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it's Archer. I think Ann Archer? Does that sound right? 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember firm? The Firm? All right? Well? Was it? Oh? 122 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Sondra Bullock was in a Time to Kill Jeene Triplehorn. Okay, 123 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: that's the other one. It doesn't I think she looks 124 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: like an Archer I was. Yeah, they do look a 125 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: little bit alike. But I think Sondra Bullock was in 126 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: a Time to Kill. That's the Grisham novel that I was. 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: Wasn't she the love interest in a Time to Kill? 128 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: With Matthew McConaughey. 129 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, okay, I think so Sondra Bullock, who we 130 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: now established as an actress in a lot of movies 131 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: that all of you know. Uh So, I think this 132 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: is a totally This is my opinion. I know Michael Orr, 133 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 2: I think I've met the Twois at some point in historically. 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: I think this is a totally trumped up lawsuit. And 135 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: I know the initial storyline. It got all the attention. 136 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: Everybody said they stole all the money from him first 137 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: of all, Buck. I would think the accounting of what 138 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: the Twoeys made from the blind Side would be very 139 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: easy to uncover. And they claimed that they didn't make 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: that much money and that they gave an equal share 141 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: to everyone who was involved in the movie. They have 142 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: two biological children, Michael Orr and the parents. But here's 143 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: where I come down on this. The Touy family is 144 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: worth a couple one hundred million dollars irrespective of anything 145 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: that they made off the movie. The reason why they 146 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: were wealthy and they were able to take in this 147 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: kid and their kids were going to a fancy Memphis 148 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: private school, Briarcrest, I believe. And by the way, we 149 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: are number one in Memphis. I bet there are people 150 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: who know the specifics of this listening to us right now. 151 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: The reason why they were able to be so generous 152 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: and able to take in Michael and able to support 153 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: him was because they were already supremely wealthy. So I 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: just look at it from the baseline level here. They 155 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: didn't make very much money relative to their net worth 156 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: off of the movie. It seems highly unlikely to me 157 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: that they somehow stole and bamboozled Michael or to take hundreds, 158 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, tens of millions of dollars out of his 159 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: pocket and put into their own. Again, I could be wrong, 160 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: but just the basic facts here don't suggest to me 161 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: that they could have made enough money that even what's 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: being alleged would have impacted their lifestyle in any way. 163 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: Do we know how Michael Lorri's finances are these days? 164 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious. You know, how did he handle 165 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: the thirty five million dollars he made as a player, 166 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: because that go toward motivation for this kind of thing. 167 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, if he's if things are going well and 168 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: he saved, but you know, if he spent a lot 169 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: of it, it is stunning. 170 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: I know. 171 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: It's not that there are a lot of athletes who 172 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: now you know, started their own brands, you know, tequila 173 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: brands and whatever. We've made a ton of money, but 174 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: it's amazing how some athletes are able to burn through. 175 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Didn't Alan Iverson make one hundred twenty million dollars playing 176 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: basketball and at one point, like in the last ten 177 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: years said he was broke or close to him. 178 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they actually, Buck, were so concerned that he was 179 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: going to spend all of his money that they built 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: a trust with fifty million dollars in it that he 181 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: was not allowed to actually touch to take care of 182 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: his family and himself in later age because his spending 183 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: was so outlandish. That you're right, the same thing happened 184 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: with Antoine Walker. He made over one hundred million dollars 185 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: later went bankrupt. And what's remarkable about this, Buck is 186 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: it's hard. It's hard to spend that kind of cash 187 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: and not have appreciable assets. Right, Like, if you go 188 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: out and buy six homes, the homes still have a 189 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: value to them. What we're talking about a lot of 190 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: times is money being spent cash and it just vanishes. Right, 191 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: you're spending three hundred thousand dollars at a restaurant or 192 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: at a party or something and it's all cash and 193 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: it just vanishes and there's no tangible asset with it. 194 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: I'll also I'll also say this, there's the there's a 195 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: report out, you know, to be fair, we don't know 196 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: if this is true, but this is being reported on 197 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: right now that Michael or wanted fifteen million dollars or 198 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: would say bad stuff. 199 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: About them in the media. Yes, you know, that feels 200 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: a little bit like blackmail. That feels a little bit 201 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: like extortion. You know that's there's something about that that 202 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, was that really the you know there you 203 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: would think that if there was an issue with life 204 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: rights which they had to sell their life rights for 205 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: the movie to be made, that there's some already been 206 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: some discussion of this. This is what lawyers handle, right. 207 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: You can take this to the lawyers first to say 208 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: give me fifteen million dollars or I'm going to ruin 209 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: your reputation or you try to that doesn't look at 210 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: this doesn't pass the smell test for me. Something's going 211 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: on here. 212 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also again I just come back to this 213 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: shouldn't be very difficult the movie accounting. There will be checks, 214 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: there will be a roster of exactly how much was paid, 215 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: and if Michael Orr didn't get his fair share of 216 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: the movie, then I think that would be relatively easy 217 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 2: to prove. The other thing is he claims that he 218 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: was not actually adopted by them, But this is a 219 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 2: legal technicality because he was already eighteen when they decided 220 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: that they wanted to be involved with him, and so 221 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: they did a conservatorship and set instead. I feel like 222 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: we're just diving into one legal complexity after another, Buck, 223 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: And so much of news stories now are connected to 224 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: legal related issues. But a lot of times I just 225 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: take a step back and I say, Okay, does this 226 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: seem likely? Does it seem likely that a family that's 227 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: worth a couple one hundred million dollars would decide to 228 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: give nothing to Michael Or and pocket all of the 229 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: money themselves, And none of this becomes public for fifteen 230 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,359 Speaker 2: years after the movie is made, and then suddenly it explodes. 231 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: That seems unlikely to me. 232 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, but that it just doesn't add up 233 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: that I understand when people sometimes steal money. Usually people 234 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: steal money a lot of times, Buck because they don't 235 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: actually have the money, right, it doesn't seem like that's 236 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: the case with the twoies. So we'll find out how 237 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: much money was actually outstanding. And let me just say this, 238 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: if you're in Memphis and you know this story, we're 239 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: number one in Memphis right now. 240 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: It's a it's an ugly story. 241 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: But I would think a lot of people listening to 242 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: us right now may be very very familiar with this case. 243 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: In particular, according to I don't know, this is one 244 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: of the Clay. It's a sports site and I don't 245 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: want to give them any extra because it's not OutKick 246 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: the good sports site. Yes, another sports site saying that 247 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: Or claims he made basically made no move, no money 248 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: from the blind side, and people are saying his estimated 249 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: net worth is like, you know, ten to fifteen million dollars. 250 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: I think something like that. So let me see. According 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: to court filing, a two weeks negotiated contract of two 252 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five thousand dollars in addition to two 253 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: point five percent of the film's net proceeds for themselves, 254 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: Or allegency received nothing in terms of money for the 255 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: film that would not have existed without him. I mean, 256 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: I think Clay, right, this will just that's funny. We 257 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: are lawyering this thing, right, this will come down to 258 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: did he sell his did he sell his life rights 259 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: as part of this? I mean, you know, or was 260 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: that even? Was that necessary? You would think it would 261 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: have to be necessary for this story to be told. 262 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he signed, he signed away his life rights to this. 263 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: And what I believe what the Twoeys are saying is 264 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: that they basically everybody who was in this movie, and 265 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: the Tui family, the two parents, the two kids, and 266 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: or who were all characters, each got one fifth of 267 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: the overall value of whatever dollars eventually came out of 268 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 2: that movie. And again that's why I'm saying from an 269 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: accounting perspective, like it either got paid or they didn't. 270 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: This doesn't seem very complicated. I mean, and if that's true, 271 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: then that's true that the numbers of the numbers are 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: real and that's what happened. I mean, you know, you 273 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: sign something, you're an adult, you got your piece of 274 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: the pie, and that should be that. Right. Yeah, it's 275 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: exactly right. But we'll take some calls. 276 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: Maybe there's people out there who are more knowledgeable about 277 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 2: this in the Memphis area. I'd love to hear how 278 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: that's all shaken out. 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And I've 311 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: had people who don't care at all about sports and 312 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: asking me, like even last night, Hey, at the book signing, 313 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: are you and Buck going to talk about this Michael 314 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: Or case because it has really captivated a large percentage 315 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: of the population. And the one thing I would say 316 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: is everybody always presumes that the first lawsuit is true, 317 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: and by which I mean the allegations get treated as fact. 318 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: The counter response, right, the defense always gets a fraction 319 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: of the attention, and we have yet to hear officially 320 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: the two wee defense. 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Snow White is I 359 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it might be the most celebrated 360 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: and beloved of the classic Disney cartoons. It's either Snow 361 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: White or Sleeping Beauty. Team tell me which one of 362 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: those made more money. I would think Snow White, but 363 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. Sleeping Beauty was also a big one. 364 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: They're doing a live action remake. As you know, it's 365 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: coming out in twenty twenty four and it has Rachel 366 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: Zegler in the role of snow White. Now she has 367 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: these are old clips. I will say this. I think 368 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: they're from a year ago maybe where she was giving 369 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: some Interviews's let's start with some of the things that 370 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: she had said that got her to a place where 371 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: now she's having to do a little bit of cleaning 372 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: up the mess that she has made for herself. Here 373 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: she is, this is September, September eleventh of twenty twenty two, 374 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: actually talking about snow White, which she is starring in. 375 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: Play ten. 376 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 3: The original cartoon came out in nineteen thirty seven and 377 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: very evidently so there is a big focus on her 378 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: love story with a guy who literally stalks her. 379 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: Weird. 380 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: Weird, So we didn't do that this time. 381 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: So no prince or a different kind of prince. 382 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: We have a different approach to what I'm sure a 383 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: lot of people will assume is a love story just 384 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: because like we cast a guy in the movie Angie 385 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: Burnap great dude. Yeah, it's one of those things that 386 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: I think everyone's going to have their assumptions about what 387 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: it's actually going to be, but it's really not about 388 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: the love story at all, which is really really wonderful, 389 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: and whether or not she finds love along the way 390 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: is anybody's guess. Until twenty twenty four, all of andrews 391 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 3: Sin's could get cut. Who knows it's Hollywood baby. 392 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: Let's take a timeless and cherished love story, Clay and 393 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: remove the whole love story thing, because charming princes and 394 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: all that stuff that's bad. We can't have that. The 395 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: male female dynamic here unacceptable. 396 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: Not only that, Buck, let's also remove all of the 397 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: lovable dwarfs, which helped to provide some comedic levity. And 398 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: what is otherwise, Let's be honest, a pretty dark story 399 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: for much of the time. I mean, the Evil Witch 400 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: is as anybody out there who has watched Disney movies 401 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 2: as a kid as you can well remember, I mean, 402 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 2: she's very creepy and scary, and so you're eliminating two 403 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: of the things that people love about this movie, the 404 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: love story. I saw The Babylon Bee had a really 405 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: funny headline and I'm paraphrasing here, Buck, but it was 406 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: basically Prince Charming no longer kisses snow White and as 407 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: a result, she stays dead because the spoiler alert, the 408 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: movie ends with Prince Charming coming kissing snow White, bringing 409 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: her back to life after she's been poisoned by. 410 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: The evil Witch. 411 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: And so you take away the Dwarfs, you take away 412 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: the love story, and you put in this woke actress 413 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: who is ridiculing the movie itself and denigrating it to 414 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: an entire universe of people who grew up. 415 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: With it and like it. 416 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: And I think this movie, this is my prediction, is 417 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: coming out next year Buck. I think that it is 418 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: going to be such an abject failure that it's going 419 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: to be impossible for Disney to not acknowledge that they 420 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: have lost their way and alienated their base, which is 421 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: parents who just want their kids to be entertained by 422 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: wholesome entertainment. 423 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: Well, there's an indicator that they're starting to see that 424 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: could happen, that this could play out in that way. 425 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Because the actress who's the lead, who is snow White, 426 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Rachel Zegler, is now this is the new thing. This 427 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: is why we're talking about this today. She's released a 428 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: video where she's saying, of course, things are being taken 429 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: out of context about what she said about the movie 430 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: out of Context Play eleven. 431 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 4: You know it's gonna get taken out of context, and 432 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: I know that at this point I can't really stop 433 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 4: people from doing that, because that's what my whole existence 434 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 4: on the Internet is, is just me being taken out of 435 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: context and stuff. Which is fine. That's what I signed 436 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: up for, isn't it. But I never wanted to come 437 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 4: off as me being ungrateful for the opportunities I have 438 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 4: when I say that this has been the biggest adjustment 439 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: of my life, like understanding the way my life operates now, 440 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 4: being who I am and the things that I've been 441 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 4: so fortunate to make. It comes with so much ground, 442 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 4: so much ground that I never thought I would be 443 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: able to cover, and that people think I'm doing poorly, 444 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: and other people think I'm doing gracefully, and I don't 445 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 4: think I'm doing it at all. 446 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm sure of. She thinks about herself 447 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: a lot. She definitely has the ability to think about 448 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: her I just think about how difficult it is to 449 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: be hated. 450 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: This is almost Megan Markle like to me, you are 451 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: like Megan Markle is a princess who is incredibly good 452 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: looking that gets to be a legitimate princess. Almost every 453 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: woman listening to us right now, at some point when 454 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: she was a girl, dreamed of being a princess. This 455 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: is why they have all of the entire Disney princess collection. 456 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: It's not because women are being forced to believe that 457 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: they want to be princesses. It's because growing up, getting married, 458 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: having a family is the aspiration of ninety percent of women, 459 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: all right, And if you're in the ten percent that 460 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: doesn't want to do that, more power to you. 461 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything wrong with it. 462 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: Ninety percent of women out there Wan they want to 463 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: get married, and they want to have a family, and 464 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: if they could be a princess on top of that, 465 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: and Mary Prince Charming, oh my goodness, life could not 466 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: get any better than that. So this girl gets cast 467 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: Buck as snow White. She is incredibly good looking, she 468 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: is getting highly paid to play an iconic character in 469 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: one of the most prestigious and well liked companies until 470 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: the last few years in American history when it comes 471 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: to entertainment, And what did she just say? 472 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: There? Woe is me. I'm a victim. 473 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: I had no idea what I was stepping into you're 474 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: an actress, you're playing an iconic role. Your life is 475 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: not hard. I'm sorry. Suck it up, Buttercup. And how 476 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: about this buck? I wonder on some level whether Disney 477 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: is going to bat Girl this movie? Remember Batgirl? They 478 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: watched it and they said it's so bad at Warner Brothers. 479 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: They just burned it. They're not even going to release it. 480 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 2: They spend one hundred million on it. They were like, 481 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: this is a failure. We're taking the right tax right off. 482 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: I wonder Disney's going to take a DAC tax right 483 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: off on the new snow White. 484 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I really do I don't. I mean, look, it has 485 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: happened before, so you can never say never. But well, 486 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: they're they're putting a lot of money into this, and 487 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: this is I think we're a different environment here. I 488 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: mean to tie this into some of the bigger things 489 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: we're seeing. Target stock price it's way down. Bud Light 490 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: is a b Do you even they were giving it 491 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: away by the case, and now I think they're just 492 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 1: not even stocking it on shelves anymore. Bud Light has 493 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: been destroyed as a brand. Target has gotten a hit 494 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: pretty seriously as a stock. You know, Disney and Ron 495 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: DeSantis that there was that whole tangle. I think that 496 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: these companies are starting to realize now that it's like 497 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: the sleeping giant of the right has woken up and 498 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: is not happy with all this woke stuff, and it 499 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: really you know what it really was when they're going 500 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: after it's the transgender stuff, yes, but also going after 501 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: the kids, trying to indoctrinate kids. That was certainly the 502 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: case with some of the the backlash to the Pride 503 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: displays at Target. People have just had enough. So what 504 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying is I think Disney, I think the Disney 505 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: of a few years ago be like, whatever, we're Disney, 506 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: We're on the cutting edge. We're progressive. That's how we 507 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: do things now. And now they might be like, uh, 508 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: just kidding, we don't mean it. Well. 509 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: I mean, think about Buck, the panic that the pr 510 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: people had. Pr somehow got what's this actress's name, Rachel, 511 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 2: what's her name, Rachel Zegler. I have no idea what 512 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: she's done before. All right, so she's snow white to me, 513 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: I guarantee you. They got little snow white there on 514 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: the phone and they said, hey, millions of people have 515 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: watched your arrogant, condescending interview where you denigrate everything that 516 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: people loved about the character that you're playing, and also 517 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: insulted anyone who liked the original movie and said the 518 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: new one was going to be nothing like it. 519 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: And so you should maybe. 520 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: Go out there and make it clear that that's not 521 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: really what you meant. And then she puts out a 522 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: new video, and it makes me like her even less 523 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: because at least and she buck if she had just 524 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: owned it and been like, hey, I think that the 525 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: original Snow White is sexist. 526 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: I think that it is that it is indefensible. 527 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: That they want girls to grow up and marry princesses, 528 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 2: and I stand nothing for it. I think dwarves were demeaned. 529 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: I would think she was alone, but at least she 530 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: would own what she's saying. Now she's like, oh, people 531 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: are paying too much attention to what I say, and 532 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: they're taking everything out of I set out of context. 533 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 2: If you play a substantial portion of a quote from someone, 534 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't think that's considered taking it out of context. 535 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: Right if you take one sentence out of a larger paragraph. 536 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 2: I think everybody kind of got the sense that she 537 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: wants to modernize snow White and thinks the the old 538 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: one is. 539 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Outdated and antiquated. 540 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 2: And guess what, most Disney viewers, I don't think think that. 541 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't think most parents who put their kids down 542 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: in front of that movie think it. 543 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: And I have to wonder. I have to wonder how 544 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: Disney is going to continue to respond. Let's say that 545 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: this is a wow. Snow White was at its time 546 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: the highest grossing film of all time until Gone with 547 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: the Wind took the title. Snow White was in its 548 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: time the ultimate box office So yeah, way bigger, I think. Then. 549 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: Let me see, I'm trying to check the Yeah. 550 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: There are people out there that are angry because you 551 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: just basically took a shot at Bambi Peter Pan, like 552 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: you just totally dismissed all all of the original iconic. 553 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the dollars and cents there. But 554 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't throw me under the bus on this. 555 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: I get it. I just I don't want Big Disney 556 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: coming for you because Peter Pan and Bambi fans out 557 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 2: there just are are driving off the road when you 558 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: took shots at them with the snow White. 559 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: So you'd have to look at adjusted for inflation, and 560 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: all that Snow White and the Seven Dwarves made one 561 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: point four eight million dollars in nineteen thirty seven, so 562 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: it goes way back. Sleeping Beauty in nineteen fifty nine, 563 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: so a couple of decades later made six million dollars, 564 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: and then Beauty and the Beast in nineteen ninety one 565 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: made twenty five million dollars. And that's obviously very different 566 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: in terms of adjusting for that's not adjusted for inflation. 567 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: But those are like the original Disney super hits, if 568 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: you will. It was so popular buck they made at 569 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: the nineteen thirty seven Oscars, maybe the nineteen thirty eight Oscars, 570 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: they made Walt Disney a special oscar with seven little 571 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: dwarves alongside of the oscar statuette. And I believe it's 572 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: still the case if you adjust for inflation. I could 573 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: be wrong on this, but I think Gone with the 574 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: which came out in nineteen thirty nine, if I'm not mistaken, 575 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: I think it's still the highest grossing movie of all 576 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: time if you adjust for box office inflation, because obviously 577 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: a ticket today costs fifteen dollars or whatever it costs 578 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: to go to a movie compared to probably twenty cents. 579 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: When when I. 580 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: Would bet something like that when Disney were when the 581 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: Snow White movie came out. 582 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: Don't I don't have kids, so I don't know about 583 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: these things anymore. But Tangled? Did you even know? There 584 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: was a Disney movie called Tangled? According to this, made 585 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty million dollars in twenty ten. 586 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's basically the Rapunzel story, right, am I right 587 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: about that? You tell me girl with long hair in 588 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: a castle if I remember correctly, and. 589 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: I left out Cinderella. Cinderella nineteen fifty made two point 590 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: nine million dollars. All right, here we go support US 591 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: funded resources, my friends. 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We are going to go out to Hawaii 610 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: here at the top of the next hour. Our friend 611 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: Will Caine has been doing phenomenal work raising over a 612 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: million dollars for people dealing with the wildfires of Hawaii 613 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: of Maui that swept through about a week ago. 614 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: So we will get. 615 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: An on the ground report from Will, and many of 616 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: you may want to help in that way, so that'll 617 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: be an interesting conversation going forward. But Buck, we were 618 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: just discussing this Snow White remake and what a disaster 619 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: it's going to be, and then it led into nineteen 620 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: thirty seven. How much money did snow White make adjusted 621 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: for inflation? Snow White made four hundred and eighteen million. 622 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Dollars, and that got me. 623 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: I went, I was trying to remember what is the 624 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: highest grossing films of all time adjusted for inflation? And 625 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 2: you have to adjust for inflation because otherwise, obviously tickets 626 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: are way more expensive every year, and so comparing a 627 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: movie from the nineteen eighties to say nothing of the 628 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 2: movie from the nineteen thirties to today would be very difficult. Buck, 629 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: I have the top ten in front of me right now. 630 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: I was right that Gone with the Wind is the 631 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: highest grossing movie ever made in today's dollars. It made 632 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: four point two billion. That's billion with a B dollars. 633 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: How many other of the top ten can you name 634 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: off the top of your head adjusted for inflation, adjusted 635 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: really inflation, adjusted for inflation. 636 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: I think Titanic has to be in there, even though 637 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: it's recent. 638 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: Titanic is number three overall, just shy of three point 639 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: five billion. 640 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: Good guests. Here we go, so the Buckster, the Buckster 641 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: comes out swinging on that one top of my head. Man, dude, 642 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: you're really putting me on the spot. Here is one 643 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: of the uh is one of the Avengers movies or 644 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: Spider Man movies on there. 645 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 2: Avengers in Game is the fifth highest grossing movie of 646 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: all time three point two billion dollars. That just came 647 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 2: out about four years ago. I'm gonna think you'll recognize. 648 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: Let me, let me hit you with some of these. 649 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 2: Avatar is number two all time. 650 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: But see that's a little unfair because did it have 651 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: the whole like charge twenty five dollars or something or 652 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: more for the you get imax benefits? 653 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 2: Certainly today also, to be fair, the global box office 654 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: is so much more substantial now when you think about that. 655 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: So Avatars, you like avatarics? Can we do this for 656 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: a second here? Did you like Avatar? I thought Avatar 657 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: was a garbage movie, garb I thought it was okay. 658 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't understand why it made again, I think it's 659 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: the global audience responded really well to Avatar. And I 660 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 2: watched Avatar two Way of the Water or whatever it was. 661 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: It also dominated. So James Cameron, by the way, the 662 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 2: number two and three all time most money making movies. 663 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: The guys of me, I mean, I love Aliens, I 664 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: love the Terminator movies. I mean James Cameron Titanic for 665 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: what it is, very watchable, so you know he's he's 666 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: a brilliant guy. I just don't get I mean, I 667 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: don't even see Avatar too. I don't get the Avatar 668 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: thing at all. What else is? 669 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 2: All? 670 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, let me hit you with the rest. 671 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: Star Wars the original number four You gott Avingers end game. 672 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: This one surprised me. 673 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: Sound of Music the sixth highest grossing movie of all time, 674 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 2: et the Extraterrestrial seven ten Commandments. Would not have guessed 675 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: that at all Back in the day, Charlton Sheen number 676 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 2: eight over Harlton Heston. 677 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Charlie, that would be boy Commandments. 678 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: Wow, wow, I might I mean that one might be 679 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 2: rated X. Doctor Shivago and Star Wars The Force Awakens 680 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 2: are the ten most lucrative movies ever made in the 681 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: history of the medium. 682 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: Usted for inflation. We come back. 683 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: We're going out to Hawaii, our friend Will Caine, the wildfires. 684 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: What happened there? What can you do to help? We'll 685 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: discuss next. 686 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: Slave Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth.