1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge, presented by DraftKings. We are here 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: to talk about the trade deadline and break down the 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: film from the Ravens win over the Arizona Cardinals. So, Garrett, 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, we've all been talking a lot about are 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens gonna make a deal? Who could they get? 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: All this stuff? It's been it's been all the bus right, 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: it's kind of dominated the narrative since the win in Arizona. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: In the end, the Ravens don't make a move. Are 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: you surprised or what? 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: I think? Relatively surprised. 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 3: I mean I think that like we've just grown accustomed 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: to seeing trade deadline fireworks from Eric ta Costa. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: That's just what it's we're used to. 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: Now. 15 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: He's kind of spoiled us. 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, well, three of his first four 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: years as GM deadline deals. 18 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: You pulled a rabbit out of your hat with Rokwan 19 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: Smith and Marcus Peters, Ganiki Gakway, So what do you 20 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 3: got for us this year? 21 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: We're spoiled? And so I thought it was. 22 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: Telling when John Hardball made the point in his press 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: conference on Monday, it's hard to make a trade, and 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: he had just walked out of a conversation with Eric Tacosta. 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: They were talking about trades and scenarios, and. 26 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: That line struck me a little bit, that like maybe 27 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 3: they were trying to wheel and deal and it takes 28 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: two to tango and they just couldn't find the right 29 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 3: partner to work a deal. 30 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Well there's contract, yea, you know implications, you know, do 31 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: you have to rework somebody's deal? Do you have to 32 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: find an extension? What do you do? There are their incentives, 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, conditional kind of things as part of the trade, 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: if they place a certain amount or go to the 35 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. There can be all kinds of different layers 36 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: saw this. I think for the Ravens, a lot of 37 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: it comes down to a they like their team, right, 38 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: they have a really good team as is, so any 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: trade was gonna be supplemental right. They didn't have any 40 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: dire need. Now, even you go back to last year, 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: I wasn't sitting there saying inside linebacker, they have a 42 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: gaping hole there, you know, But Broquan Smith. Once they 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: got Broquon Smith, You're like, yeah, you know what, actually 44 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: they kind of did need that. That was that really 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: took the defense to another level. I didn't really see 46 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: a spot on this roster, and you know, we talked 47 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: about running back. They could upgrade there. You can always 48 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: have more pass rushers all that stuff, but there wasn't 49 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: a dire need anywhere. I do agree with that statement. 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, the Ravens have the best record 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: the time for the best record the FC, So it's 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: not like they're sitting here saying like, uh man, we 53 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: are in a tough spot here. 54 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: You know, I think it's just about. 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: Putting you over the hump, Like, basically, do you feel 56 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: like there's a player that could put. 57 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: You over the hump? 58 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: To me, it comes down to three things. One that 59 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: they really like their team, yep, and they feel good 60 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: about it. That's number one too. I think it's hard 61 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: to make a trade. I think teams are hesitant to 62 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: trade away star players like you just you don't like that, 63 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: Like you don't want to be in a position where 64 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: you're trading away your star players with the face of 65 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: your franchise. Like teams don't want to do that. Gems 66 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: don't want to do that. 67 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bears probably watching Roquan Smith, you know, be 68 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: one of the best defenders in the league. I'm gonna 69 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: guess at Ryan Poles doesn't exactly love seeing that. On 70 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the other side, ring the guy that trade away Roquan. 71 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 3: You know, and like, of course, like the rumors and 72 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: the reports that were there where basically what the Ravens 73 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: try to get, Like Derek Henry or Siwan Barkley. Both 74 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 3: those guys have been like faces of those franchises for 75 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: a long time, So like, that's tough to make that 76 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 3: kind of move. And then I think the third thing 77 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: is as much as we've grown accustomed to these trade 78 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 3: deadline moves, Eric Tacosta has always maintained his belief and 79 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: the foundation of a team is built through the draft. 80 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: He hasn't waivered in that. He's been consistent in believing 81 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: that the draft is still the lifeblood of an organization 82 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: and it probably takes on even greater importance when you 83 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 3: have a quarterback, a franchise quarterback on a long term deal. 84 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. I mean, the Ravens 85 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of cap space going into the 86 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: trade deadline. Now they could have freed up more. I 87 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: don't know that cap considerations were part of it, but 88 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I think long term kind of to what you're speaking 89 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: about is they have Lamar Jackson on a long term deal. 90 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Now he's going to eat up a big part of 91 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: the salary. You need good, cheap quote unquote players coming 92 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: in and you need that pipeline to stay as competitive 93 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: is the Ravens have, especially with Lamar now on his extension. 94 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: And so you don't want to be trading away those 95 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: picks like they're candy. You know that You're not giving 96 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: that out like they're snickers at your front door on Hollyween, Right, 97 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: you're just tossing them out willy nilly. Draft picks aren't candy, 98 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: you know. And so I think that that was part 99 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: of the thinking for the Ravens, especially too, when you 100 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 1: have so many good young players who are going into 101 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: who are in contract years, you'd like to retain some 102 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: of them at least. Yeah, you know you have Matta b. 103 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: K Patrick, Queen Gino Stone now, you know, and there's 104 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: more guys who I think the Ravens would like to 105 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: keep around. And so to go out there and make 106 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: a trade for somebody that could potentially be beyond a rental, Right, 107 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: how much are you going to give up just for 108 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: a rental? And are you willing to give up what 109 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: it's going to take for a to get a guy 110 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: who could be something more than a rental. But if 111 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: he's more than a rental, then you're saying no to 112 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: some of the guys already in your building. 113 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: Well, like workwand Smith last year, when the second round 114 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: pick was an hour, you're kind of like, oh, like 115 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: that is a little bit pricey for a rental, knowing 116 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: how much the Ravens covet picks. But then when you consider, well, 117 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: actually it's not a rental. You know the potential is 118 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: there to work out, the hope is there to work 119 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: out the long term deal, so you would think it's 120 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: something similar. Now, if it's just a rental, then you 121 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: would think the pick value would be lower. But then 122 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: is a team going to give up a star player 123 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: for a mid round pick. That's they're less likely to 124 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: do that. And again that comes back to the point 125 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: where it's it's hard to make trades. I heard a rumor, 126 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: and you can tell me if this is correct. 127 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: You love swimming in the rumor waters. 128 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: Huh that I heard a rumor that the reason the 129 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: Costa didn't make a trade. 130 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Is because, well, this is going to be something silly. 131 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: You went to him and said you have You went 132 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: to him and said, it's Halloween. I got trick or 133 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: Treat plans tonight. If you make the move, then I'm 134 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 3: going to be sitting here write an article. We're going 135 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: to be doing an emergency podcast. Trick or Treat's going 136 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: to be put on pause. And so you said, as 137 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: much as I would love some of these moves that 138 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: will be in, you know, floating out there on social media, 139 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: do me a solid and don't make the move. 140 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Look, that wasn't voice, but it was definitely felt. I 141 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: gotta I got. It was implied twenty some kids come 142 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: to my house for a pizza party before Trigger treating 143 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it from my house today. Okay, we got we gotta 144 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: make this little snap if we're gonna make a deal. 145 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: You see it. 146 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: Basically, the deadlines are four, but your deadline, Eric is 147 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: around lunchtime exactly. I gotta get ready for Trigger Treat. 148 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: I gotta get my costume, I gotta do all these things. 149 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, look, I think that. 150 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: Is. 151 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: Whenever there's names like Derrick Henry floated out there, Saquon 152 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: Barklay and stuff, you get excited. You know, and I 153 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: think even you and I just we don't know what's 154 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna happen. We're sitting there talking in the lounge about 155 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: what do you think you think they're gonna do it? 156 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: You know, and it's exciting the prospect of thinking about 157 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: those guys, but it doesn't always come to fruition. And 158 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel like, you know, bummed right now that 159 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: like oh man, like what the heck? Like you know 160 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: what gus I said? It was just ran for three 161 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: touchdowns and eighty yards. Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about 162 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: the running back situation now, you know, knock on the 163 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: wooden football. But I like this team. To quote Buck 164 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Showalter and now John Harbaugh, I like our guys. 165 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, I agree. I'm with you. 166 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: So we like this team, like the guys, and we're 167 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: going to dive into some of the tape from the 168 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: win over Arizona and talk about those guys. 169 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I thought the big takeaway for me just 170 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: looking offense and defense was that the Ravens pivoted right. 171 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: They kind of shifted gears in this game on both 172 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: sides of the ball, and that made a big difference. 173 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, here they are, They're late in the second quarter. 174 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: It's a seven to seven game against a one win team, right, 175 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: I think it was a lot closer game than we 176 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: all thought it was going to be, and they shifted gears. 177 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: So let's let's first talk offensively. You know, it was 178 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a struggle earlier. 179 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 180 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they marched down get a touchdown on their opening drive. 181 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: The Ravens do with some miraculous plays by Lamar Jackson, 182 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: which we'll talk about, but I first want to talk 183 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: about what the Cardinals were doing on tape that kind 184 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: of threw the offense off kilter a little bit that 185 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: we were all so excited about coming out of that 186 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: line's game. 187 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: Well, when we did the post post game pod Sunday night, 188 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: you know, we talked a little bit about this in 189 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: the sense kind of right then was like, oh, well, 190 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: the Cardinals were dropping a bunch of guys in coverage 191 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: and that was a challenge when you went back and 192 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: looked at it as. 193 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: That was confirmed. Okay, yeah, I think that they were. 194 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: They really wanted to cloud the picture for Lamar Jackson, 195 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: make tighter throwing windows. It was you know, it was 196 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: a good combination of zone and man coverage. But when 197 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: you break down the numbers, they had three or fewer 198 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: rushers on twenty percent of the Ravens dropbacks. Right. The 199 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: Ravens didn't do that at all. It's zero percent of them, right. 200 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: They brought four or more every time. So you saw 201 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals were bringing a little less pressure on 202 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and saying, all right, we're gonna make tighter 203 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: windows for you to throw in, and that led to 204 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: more in completions and and just yeah, Lamar holding the 205 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: ball taking some more sacks. He took four sacks when 206 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: you saw that there wasn't an some of his initial 207 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: reads were not open. He didn't hit the checkdown early 208 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: enough or didn't see the checkdown or whatever, and ended 209 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: up taking sex. 210 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that kind of led to just in 211 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: the first half, it just was kind of sputtering, like 212 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: it wasn't you know, even that first drive that you mentioned, 213 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: and I think, you know, nice to kind of get 214 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 3: into that one, but like on that opening drive, like 215 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: the first of all, you're kind of sitting there shocked 216 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: a little bit because the Cardinals take that early lead. 217 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: And then and then there's that play with where Lamar 218 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 3: throws it up and Bateman flies out of nowhere? 219 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: Is this thing gonna get picked? 220 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 3: And then obviously they end up marching down it is 221 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: getting the touchdown there. So like there were some bright 222 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: plays on that drive, but like it just it didn't 223 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: feel like smooth. It didn't feel like, Okay, boom boom boom, 224 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: you're marching down the field seven yards here in seat. 225 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: Yes, a few of those. 226 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: I mean the Baitman catch in particular, that was one 227 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: where it's just like, ah, well, there he is. 228 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, nice, great play, great play. 229 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: Well. The other one was Lamar Jackson's run out and 230 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: flip it to Gus Edwards. You know, the kind of 231 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't even know what you call that, just a 232 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: little shuffle pass. Yeah, when there's nine Arizona Cardinals spenders 233 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: all around Gus. He did it very casually, he did it. 234 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: And part of that is that's the yin and the 235 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: yang of Lamar Jackson, Right, that's Lamar magic. You see 236 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: him make that kind of play and you're kind of 237 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: cringing a little bit and then you're like, wow, that 238 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: was awesome, And that's what you get from Lamar Jackson. 239 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: And to point to one other example of that, the 240 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: touchdown pass. I mean, here's Lamar in the pocket. Ronnie 241 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Stanley's pushed right into him, sweeps his front leg, Lamar's 242 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: one leg in it, and he throws a touchdown pass 243 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: and Mark Andrews in the back of the end. There. 244 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: That's that's I don't know how many quarterbacks can do that. 245 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's one of one. If Patrick Mahomes does that, 246 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: the NFL at world probably explodes, you know. And but 247 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: that was an incredible play. 248 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: It was incredible and like he has the hand in 249 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: his face, he has the I mean, it looks just cool, right, 250 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: It's like it looks smooth. 251 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I saw somebody posts online They're like, put this is 252 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the new NFL logo, you know, like the MJ. Yeah, 253 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: this is the new old floor of this leg up 254 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: throw in the fats. 255 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: He's got the leg up and then he just zips 256 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: it around the guy with the side arm throw and 257 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: like it hit Mark Andrews. It could not have been 258 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: placed any better. Like all that chaos kind of going 259 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: on in front of him on one leg, it was 260 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: just a flick of the wrists. Like it just was 261 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: a beautiful pass. And like I've said multiple times over 262 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: the course of this year, Like Lamar has had a 263 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: number of throws throughout the season that just make you 264 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 3: say wow because they're just so incredible, and this is 265 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: one of them. I don't think I realized at the 266 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: time all that was going on, Like when he made 267 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: that throw, which just kind of looked like when I 268 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: was When you're watching, it just look like a nice play, 269 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: look like, you know, a red zone touchdown pass. But 270 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: when you look at that angle, the back angle, and 271 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: you can. 272 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: See slow it down when you see he's getting stepped on. 273 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: It was remarkable. 274 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: It was a leg sweet yeah, and yeah, very remarkable. 275 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: One thing about Lamar that I think we've all seen 276 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: these amazing eye popping plays from Lamar over his career. 277 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: Most of the time though it was running, yes, year 278 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: it's been passing, yes, eye poppers, throwing the ball, which 279 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: is a change, and that was one of them. What 280 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: hasn't changed is the connection between Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews. 281 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: And you see on that end zone look again, you 282 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: see Mark just break off his route points to the 283 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: other way. He says, I'm going I'm going back this way, 284 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: changes his route to break wide open for the touchdown. 285 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: That's not how they drew it up. I mean, Zay 286 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: Flowers almost ran into him. That was not how it's 287 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: drawn up. But I think that Mark Andrews still has 288 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: the green light. I don't know how often. Maybe we'll 289 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: have to ask him when we have him in the lounge, yeah, 290 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: later this week, how often he gets called Yeah, that's 291 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: a teaser, folks. You know on that he certainly had 292 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: the green light to freelance a little bit and clearly 293 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: did for the touchdown. 294 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: Well he's had, but the level of success that he's had, 295 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: you kind of get more of that green light in 296 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: those type of situes. 297 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: The connection that he and Lamar have, it's not just that, Yeah, 298 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Mark's had a lot of success in this league. Those 299 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: two clearly have chemistry, great chemistry, And when you're Todd Munkett, 300 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: maybe it hasn't operated that way in the past for 301 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: you and your tight ends. It's more let's run this 302 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: the way it's designed. But when you come in That's 303 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: what we all talked about with Todd Munkin when he 304 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: came in here, is he adapts to his players, as 305 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: adapts to his personnel. And I think that we're seeing 306 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: that and maybe that's part of the reason why Mark 307 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: has had a few really good games recent in recent 308 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: weeks is he's doing more of that. 309 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: Mark is one touchdown away from tying Todd Heap for 310 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: the Ravens franchise record and receiving touchdowns, So that could happen. 311 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: That could happen Sunday at the Bank. 312 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: He could surpass them. 313 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: Tying's not about breaking at. 314 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: Breaking exactly, so that would be very cool. One thing 315 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about with the offense is the 316 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver situation right now, and we're seeing us some 317 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: shifts being made, kind of Sayflowers look has been the 318 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: top targeted guy all season long. That hasn't changed now. 319 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: He did have his consecutive game streak of fifty scrimmage 320 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: yard snapped in this game. Just never really got loose 321 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: for a long one. But I think we are seeing 322 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: the emergence of Rashad Bateman in this wide receiver corps 323 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: more some really good plays from him. 324 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm excited about Bateman, and I think a few weeks 325 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: ago it just seemed like he just seemed to not 326 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: really have like a ton of confidence. It just seemed 327 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: that way watching him on the field. Now, I don't 328 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: think in John Harbaugh. I asked him about that this 329 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: week and about Baitman's emergence, and someone followed up about 330 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: a question about his confidence, and he pointed out like 331 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: it was never a quite confidence a lack of confidence 332 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: and ability, It was a lack of It was more 333 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: about getting confident in your physical ability. 334 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's coming off the foot injury, then 335 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: he had the hamstring and he's in a situation now 336 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: where it's very different from a year ago when he 337 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: was the clear number one, your number three the pecking 338 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: order really two three, let's say. And so that I 339 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: think is a mental adjustment for a player like him, 340 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: who has a lot of belief in his ability, and 341 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I think you are left wondering where do I Where 342 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: do I fit in? You're not getting a whole lot 343 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: of targets per game, You're not getting a huge snap share, 344 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: you're not playing one hundred percent of snaps or close 345 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: to it. That's an adjustment for a shot Bateman. And 346 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: to his credit, I think now, especially with him getting 347 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: healthy and making some plays, that's really big for him. 348 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: We saw it last week the couple of catches over 349 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: the middle. I think we're kind of a jump starter 350 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: for him, and we saw that carry over in this game. 351 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like just the health piece, like let's not 352 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: overlook like this list Frank. Injury is a major injury, 353 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: like this takes a long time to come back from. 354 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: Then he came back, he was ready by week one. 355 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: Then you come back and then he dealt with a hamstring, 356 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: And so that you add the hamstring on top of 357 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: the list Frank, which sometimes you can you can see that, 358 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden a guy comes back, 359 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: but then something else starts to ail them. So that's 360 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: kind of what happened here. He gets continues to get 361 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: healthy and Hollywood Brown talked about like the list ran 362 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: for years. I mean he's basically said it bothering for 363 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: Jimmy Smith talked about the list ran for years. So 364 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: now we're like a year out for Rashad from having 365 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: that injury. So now like he's just going to continue 366 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: to get healthier and healthier with that foot. He gets healthier, 367 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: removed from the hamstring, he's playing with more juice and 368 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: then like now you have confidence and you have more 369 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: confidence in your health and you go out there and 370 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: make plays. And like this was big Harbaugh said, like 371 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: when I asked him about it, like he feels like 372 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: the second half of the season is going to be 373 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: big for him. 374 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: Yep. And you talk about more juice. I think you 375 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: saw that on the Jets sweep. Yes, he took for 376 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: a long game. You saw him turn on the after 377 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: boosters on that one got up near at nineteen miles 378 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: per hour, which he can go faster than that. But 379 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: it was cool to see him kind of shift into 380 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: another gear on that jet sweep and cool for the 381 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: Ravens just to have another jet sweep guy. You already 382 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: have Za Flowers who people have to respect that way. 383 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Devin Dune has done it over his career, not a 384 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: ton this year, but some. And now you ever shot Bateman, 385 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: who you see the wheels on him? All right, here's 386 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: another threat that opposing defenses have to worry about. 387 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 388 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: I was a little surprised when they gave it to 389 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: him there because it's just like you think the Cardinals 390 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: were too Yeah, and that's and then and then at 391 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: on top of that, you know they got the late penalty, 392 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: so it was like ended up being a huge play 393 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: for that stand. 394 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. The other wide receiver I want to talk about, 395 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: obviously is Odell Beckham Junior didn't have a catch. He 396 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: didn't have a catch in the It's the first game 397 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: of his career that he's played the whole game. He 398 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: wasn't injured, that he did not have a catch, first 399 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: game of his career, and so obviously we saw the 400 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: frustration from him after the touchdown penalty. And and look, 401 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior contributed to the offense and to the 402 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: success on Sunday, drew two long pass interference calls, drew 403 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: a third penalty on a holding call. Uh and you 404 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: know those set up Ravens points, right, But Odell Beckham 405 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: wants those to be catches. Of course, getting a flag 406 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: is fine, all that stuff, but that man wants to 407 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: make some catches. What do you make of the Odell situation. 408 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 3: I think that I think that there's a lot of 409 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: levels to it. I do think that defenses and defensive 410 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: backs in particular, really get up to go up against Odell. 411 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: I think that like, this is a guy that has 412 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: been one of the yeah iconic players in the league 413 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 3: over the last decade. And so when you're going up 414 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 3: against Odell, like even at this stage of his career, 415 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: you still feel like this is a big matchup. I mean, 416 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: I remember when Jimmy Smith called the both of them 417 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: have shared the story, but before Marlin Humphrey was going 418 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: to shadow Odell for a game. Jimmy called him like 419 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 3: the game the night before and was just like, this 420 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 3: is big for you, Like you're going up against Odell Beckham. 421 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: You're following them all over the field tomorrow. And that 422 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: was when Odell was on the Browns. And so I 423 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 3: think that that type of respect is still what he 424 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: garners from opposing teams. So I think that I say 425 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: all that to say I think defenses really get up 426 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: to play against him. And I think that defensive backs 427 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: like they want to get physical with him. They want 428 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: to try to frustrate him. They want to try to 429 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: they're all over him. 430 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: They don't want to give up an inch, and so 431 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of passals. 432 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: So they interfere with him a lot. I mean, they 433 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 3: have these penalties because they're like draped all over him 434 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: because they don't want to give up a big play 435 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 3: to him. They don't want to be the next guy 436 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 3: on the icon of Kylight reel. And so I think 437 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: that that's part of it. He's an emotional player who 438 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: wants the ball and he like the road for And 439 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: then the other part is like the road for him 440 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: has been long. He didn't play it all last year. 441 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 3: He goes down in the Super Bowl when he's having 442 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: a great start to that game, and then he's got 443 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: to work his way all the way back, goes to 444 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: a new team. Everything's going great, and now he wants 445 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: to make plays and like he hasn't gotten the end 446 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: zone yet and he wants to he wants to help 447 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: the team. So I think that like when you see 448 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 3: him throw his helmet on the sidelines, I think it's 449 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: just just a sign of frustration because he's like, I 450 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: know I can do this, and I just want to 451 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: go out there and make that play. 452 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear that the Ravens are trying 453 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: to make that happen. Yeah, totally trying to get him 454 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: the ball. A La Mar Jackson said as much after 455 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: the game, said, I want to get that guy a touchdown. 456 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: And I think that everybody's kind of feeling that to 457 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: some degree on this team right now, that an Odell 458 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: Beckham breakout would really do wonders for this offense. 459 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, and like that's you know, it's a couple 460 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: of weeks ago. It's like it was, you know, it 461 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: seemed like the fort bateman was kind of struggling a 462 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 3: little bit. Now he comes back and kind of gets 463 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: jumps started against the lines and then comes up with 464 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 3: some big plays in this game. I could see there, 465 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: Like I would not rule out sometime in the near 466 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: future having the Odell game where he gets multiple catches 467 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: and gets in the end zone like the five the 468 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: five catch for you know, one hundred yards in a touchdown, 469 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: Like that could happen. That game could happen, Like that 470 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: would be like a big game for him. Uh, based 471 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: on what we've seen this year. But like absolutely that 472 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 3: could happen. And like if you take away the can 473 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: we just add up. 474 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: The interference yards? How many interference rsts have this year? 475 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: I think Tyreek Hill has said that he wishes that 476 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: those counted as receiving yards. I'm sure Odell does too. 477 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. The last thing I want to talk 478 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: about is the Ravens running game, which really got cranked 479 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: up in the second half. And this is what I 480 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: was talking about when I said the Ravens made adjustments right. 481 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: They were throwing the ball seventy percent of the time 482 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: in the first half, and I think they came out 483 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: at halftime saying, we need to run the ball. They're 484 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: getting lighter boxes, which you don't usually see against the Ravens, 485 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: and so they said, all right, let's ground and pound 486 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: this thing. And I was really impressed by the blocking 487 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: in particular of the interior offensive line. I thought Tyler Linderbaum, 488 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: John Simpson, and Kevin Zeitler had some of their best 489 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: games of the year. 490 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: Well, It's like, I think the fact that the Ravens 491 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: were giving or the Cardinals were giving the Ravens light 492 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: boxes speaks to basically their respect that they're giving Lamar Jackson. 493 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: Like in the past, it would be like load up 494 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, and so they're giving him 495 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 3: lighter boxes. And then you have those three guys in 496 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 3: the middle that can just feast. Like I like what 497 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm seeing from those three players in particular, and I 498 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 3: mean it seemed like they had maybe their best game. 499 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so for sure. Certainly, I think John 500 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: Simpson his physicality continues to show. He tossed one guy 501 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: like he was a bouncer at the club, just threw 502 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: him out and then you see the work that Tyler 503 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: Linderbaum and Kevin Zeitler on double teams are doing. Lindenbaumb 504 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: just continues to grow in his second year, and Kevin 505 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Zeitler the vet. I mean, he knew, right, he knew 506 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: the Cardinals were the only team he hadn't beaten in 507 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: his NFL career. Had to get that done, had I 508 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: think his best game of the year. 509 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 510 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we spent time off the top talking 511 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: about the trade deadline, and the position that I would 512 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: say was most discussed was running back. And you know, 513 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: Gus Edwards had three touchdowns On Sunday, Friend the Lounge, 514 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: Cole Jackson did a breakdown on him on his Road 515 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 3: Graders film breakdowns, yep, and he talked about, you know, 516 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: whether whether the Ravens basically needed to make an upgrade 517 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 3: at running back, you know, and he pointed out some 518 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: really some really good things. But the main thing, like 519 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: we know Gus is physical, Like okay, we've seen nothing though, 520 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: nothing new, but he also has showed really nice vision 521 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: in this game. And Cole did a nice shot breaking 522 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 3: that down in his video breakdown. But I think that 523 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: like part of the reason again that the Ravens didn't 524 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: make a move. Is they feel confident in the guys 525 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: they have and Gus being chief among them. Like I 526 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 3: feel good about Gus being the bell cow down the 527 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 3: stretch here in the second half of the season, Like 528 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: he can handle that workload, and I think he showed 529 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: that on Sunday. 530 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. Now let's take a break and we'll 531 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: jump into defensive film. 532 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: All right, listeners, we are coming to you from the 533 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: Seat Geek Studio. We appreciate you listening to the Lounge Podcast. 534 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 3: We also want our listeners to know that this week 535 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: DraftKings Sportsbook, which is an official sports betting partner of 536 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens, has a limited time offer you don't 537 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: want to miss. Here's what you need to do down 538 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: all the DraftKings Sportsbook app today. Use a promo code flock. 539 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: If you're a new customer, you can get a deposit 540 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: bonus up to one thousand dollars. 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Okay, I'm gonna stand 557 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: by and wait for that. 558 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: Gift, but we wait a while. 559 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 3: On the defensive side of the ball, I think we 560 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: probably need to start with the guys in the trenches, right, 561 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean, we have to. 562 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: Yep, totally. And this back to my original point that 563 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: I thought the Ravens did a good job of adjusting 564 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: at halftime, thought that coming out of the of the 565 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: first half they needed to stop the run better. There 566 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: was no doubt there was too many runs, just free 567 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 1: runners through the Ravens defensive line. Now, I think the 568 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals were breaking tendency a lot in their run game. 569 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: They played well. Yeah, they had a lot of They 570 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: had a lot of muscle on the front of that 571 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: offensive line. And I thought that they just had a 572 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: good game running the ball. They like I said, broke Tennessee. 573 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: They were doing things differently than they had in previous weeks. 574 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals looked at this game as I 575 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: don't want to say their Super Bowl, but this is 576 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: a big game. This is a statement game for the end, 577 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: they'll catch a sink game kind of. Yeah. I think 578 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: that they saw a Ravens team coming off flying high 579 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: after the big win against the Lions. Everybody's talking about, 580 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: are the Ravens the best team in the NFL? Blah 581 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah, And they're coming into our house. 582 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: And here you have Jonathan Gannon, a defensive coach. His 583 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: defense is ranked twenty eighth in the league. That can't 584 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: be sitting well with him. Yeah, he was the DC 585 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: of the Eagles last year, and I think that he 586 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: They put together a pretty unique game plan for the Ravens, 587 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: and I the players were playing with their hair on fire. Yeah, 588 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: I thought that they were just playing really hard. 589 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: I agree with that. 590 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 3: Like, I just felt like throughout that entire game, like 591 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 3: they showed a lot of fight, Like they'd never lay 592 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: down even when it would be was pretty clear that 593 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: like this game is probably in hand, Like it probably 594 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: is in hand, and they just, as I said on 595 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: the postgame show on Sunday, like the game felt like 596 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 3: it would just not end. It felt like the fourth 597 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: quarter lasted for three hours because they just kept they 598 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: kept trying to make it a game. 599 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Yep. So even though the Cardinals are a one win team, 600 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: I think you have to tip your cap sometimes that 601 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: they played well. It wasn't just that they played physically 602 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: and that they played hard and all that stuff. I 603 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: thought they executed well. They played well, and they had 604 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: some unique scheme stuff. And so part of that was 605 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: in the run game for the Cardinals, and they got 606 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens early in this game. The Ravens still made 607 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: some splash plays Michael Pierce, couple fourth down stops and 608 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff kind of help helped stop the bleeding. 609 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: And then in the second half, I think you saw 610 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: the defensive line and the linebackers get on the same 611 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: page and really start to take over for me. Michael 612 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: Pierce got a lot of ink and he deserves it. 613 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the physicality that he played with, the knockback 614 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: that he got, the pass rush moves that he's showing, 615 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: pretty incredible for a nose tackle. It was his highest 616 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: graded pro football focused game since his rookie year, and 617 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: so he had a great game. But it wasn't just him. 618 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: But before you move on, okay, we got an email 619 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 3: yeah from Unlette who said just the subject line was 620 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: dog I mean, and the. 621 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 2: Email says it's Michael Pierce. That's the email. 622 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we're gonna do this. You're talking, 623 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: You're talking about him. 624 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: I'm like you were trying to move on. 625 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: Yes, you are right. Emailer the now the Dogs Michael 626 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: Pierce gets it this week. 627 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 628 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: Sure. 629 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 630 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 3: Ravens Thought NFL d Net, send us your suggestions or 631 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: your questions. Always what your suggestions are Dog of the Week. 632 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: We always enjoy those. So sorry I cut you off. 633 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: I could see that you were you were wanting to 634 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: spread the wealth, you know, in terms of the copplements 635 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 3: that you're you're doleing out. But I was like, before 636 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: we move on from from big ers, a big dog's 637 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: recognized the big dog there in the mill who had 638 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: a huge impact, that it. 639 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: Was an all timer game for him. Yeah, Michael Pierce, 640 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous, but it wasn't just him. I think 641 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: as you saw this game go on too, you saw 642 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Travis Jones making some plays. You saw Justin Mattabike making plays. 643 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: I thought Travis Jones had one of his better games 644 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: yet of his career, second year defensive tackle, the physicality 645 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: that he plays with, getting skinny sometimes. I thought that 646 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: he had a really strong game as well, especially in 647 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: the second half. 648 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: Well, Michael, Justin Mattebike had a sack, had another sack 649 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: taken off the board. Yep, you know by a defensive 650 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: pass interference or defensive illegal contact legal contact call that 651 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton on the opening drive would have been a 652 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: sack on third down that would have been forced to 653 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: three and out and kind of set the tone. 654 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Instead, the Cardinals ended up driving all the way down 655 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: the field. 656 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: When you look back on that on the film TICKI Tack, 657 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: he basically the tight end runs right into Kyle Hamilton. 658 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: There was contact, but it looked to me like the 659 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: tight end initiated that. 660 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: Contact would agree with you. 661 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: You ran right in to him, took a sack off 662 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: the board, So that was kind of disappointing. But Pierce 663 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 3: had I keep saying, Pierce Madabik had a sack and 664 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: six pressures on twenty three pass rush attempts. So he 665 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: continues to be a force as a pass rusher this year. 666 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, his combination of power and moves I think 667 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: that we're seeing across the board. Chuck Smith, you know, 668 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: he's the outside linebackers coach, but he's not just working 669 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: with the outside linebackers. He's working with everybody on their 670 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: pass rush moves, and I am seeing that payoff. You're 671 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: seeing just more top notch pass rush moves from even 672 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: these interior defensive linemen. Justin Mattabik put one guy in 673 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: the spin cycle. Just ridiculous move, Michael Pierce with a 674 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: swipe of the hands. You're just seeing the evolution of 675 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens pass rush game. 676 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: Well, if you at one point when Matta Bik got 677 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 3: a sack, he pointed over to the sidelines and it 678 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: couldn't really tell who he was pointing at. You know, 679 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 3: it could but it could have been Juck Chuck Smith, 680 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: who actually had a relationship with prior even to Chuck 681 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: joining the coaching staff here. I don't know if that's 682 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: who he was pointing out, or a teammate or whatever, 683 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: but I definitely think Chuck Smith is His impact on 684 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: these pass rushers is evident. And you know, I also 685 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: give credit to Anthony Weaver, who I think is a 686 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: great D line coach for sure. 687 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Absolutely for the defense, it was a lot of it 688 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: was splash plays. It wasn't an overall domination, and they 689 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: gave up more yards they would have liked. John Harball said, 690 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: they basically played the same defensive call for like fifteen 691 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: straight plays down the stretch. Yeah, they had a big lead. 692 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: They weren't going to show anything. It was vanilla exactly. 693 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: And now, of course the Ravens that pride and they 694 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: don't want to give up any points and yards even 695 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: given that right, they want to remain the number one 696 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: defense in the league. 697 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: Even if it's vanilla ice cream. You want to be 698 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: the best vanial ice cream. 699 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: A little fudge on top. 700 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: No, there was no FuG That's what I'm saying it 701 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: was just. 702 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Pay that's what you want. I'm saying, even if you 703 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: even if you got the vanilla sprinkles, but sprinkles the fudge, 704 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: that's what they wanted. On top of even it's vanilla 705 00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: at its. 706 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: Bait analergies can we get into. 707 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: But you know, the splash plays were what made the difference. Obviously, 708 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: the two interceptions were game changing plays. And just to 709 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: talk about those briefly, one thing I saw on the 710 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: tape on Brandon Stevens interception, which are you willing to 711 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: admit Garrett, it was a tough catch. Days later after 712 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: what do you see it here? Garrett? 713 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: I think it was a it was a good catch. 714 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: It was a good catch. I think it was. I 715 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: think it was a nice play. It was a great 716 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: play by him. 717 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: Scale one to ten. How tough was the catch? I'll 718 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: give it a six. Wow, I'll go seven one point higher. 719 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: You're low. Bryce is given it a seven to get all. 720 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: Right, I'll gi him seven point one. 721 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: I'll time you back me up one of these sticks. 722 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: And but one thing I did not realize on that 723 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: play was the pressure from Patrick Queen right in Joshua 724 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: Dobb's face. You know, Ross Tucker was going on and 725 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: on on the broadcast about how bad a throw that was. Well, 726 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: there was a reason Patrick Queen brought the heat and 727 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: caused the high throw there, which led to the Brandon 728 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Stephens interception with a seven point ranking on the Cash. 729 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think even more difficult was the Geno 730 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: Stone interception. Okay, I'll give that one a higher degree 731 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 3: of difficulty. Now he ended up just basically. 732 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: He stole from a seamate get you get knocked a 733 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: couple points knocked off by stealing it from your teammate. 734 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 3: What would have been an easier interception was had Gino 735 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: not gotten in the way because Brandon Stevens just lining 736 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: that one up. I mean, he had that one right 737 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 3: in his sights, had his hands out there ready and everything. 738 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: He stole money from that man, stole money from that man. 739 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 3: But on that play, Gino basically is in zone coverage 740 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: and he's basically following the tight end. 741 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's in zone coverage, and then he does 742 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: a really good job. I mean he completely turns his 743 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: back to the play to pick up the man that 744 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna then pick up in zone coverage and shadows 745 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Trey mcbriden just undercuts it. Really good play. You talk 746 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: about turn your back completely and then relocating the ball. 747 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: That's like Ed Reid's stuff. It did. 748 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it was such a natural play, and like 749 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: what just struck me is that, like it almost seemed 750 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 3: like he had like truly eyes in the back of 751 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: his head. He's running away from the quarterback with like 752 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 3: yours back to the football like you mentioned, and then 753 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: he turns his head at the perfect time it goes 754 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: up and just snags it the interception, right in front 755 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: of Brandon Steven's face. 756 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty incredible. The Gino Stone's story, his season 757 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: leading the league now with five interceptions. It's just an 758 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: incredible story for that guy who, like I said before, 759 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: did not even grow up imagining he would ever be 760 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: in this position. And so it's not it's not it's 761 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: not by Fluke, right, I mean, that's just a good play. 762 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: To your point, that's good safety play, and you got 763 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: to give the props to Gino. 764 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. 765 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: I feel bad for him because every time the guy 766 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: makes an interception, he gets clowned on his head. I know, 767 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: it's like at a certain point, it's like, why didn't 768 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: you return that for a pick six. You know, why 769 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't you just cut back? Why didn't you do this? 770 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Why did you steal it from your team? 771 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: I know I thought that too. 772 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: It's like, every time this guy's leading the NFL in interceptions, 773 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 3: like that should be the retort right there. It's like, well, 774 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 3: you know what, guys like I may not do what 775 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 3: you want once I get the ball my hands, but 776 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: at least I'm getting the ball my hands, right anybody 777 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: else in the NFL? 778 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: So getting dunked on. 779 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: Interception, Yeah, I know, the joke kind of grows stale 780 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 3: when he just keeps coming up with them every single week. 781 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 3: It's like, all right, you guys need to find a 782 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: new new line here new criticized the new way to 783 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 3: criticize me for sure, for sure. 784 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: So as always make sure you email us at the 785 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. We will have 786 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: as we said Mark Andrews on the podcast coming up 787 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: this week, the Ravens are hopeful that they're going to 788 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: get some guys back from injuries going into a big 789 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: game against the Seattle Seahawks, who just made a big 790 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: time acquisition. Talking about the trade deadline, Yeah, they brought 791 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: in defensive tackle Leonard Williams. Who is that Dude's a monster. 792 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: So we talked about the interior offensive line for the Ravens. 793 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: They're gonna have their hands full against him. And the 794 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks are just a good team. They're one of the 795 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: best teams in the league. So it should be a 796 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 1: really good game here at Mt. Banks Stadium. The Ravens 797 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: are hopeful they could even get some players back on 798 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: the field from injuries. That was the other news out 799 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: of Monday's press comes from John Harball Tyas Bowser. Maybe 800 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: not too far away, you know, Maleek Ham is on 801 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: his way back. Pepe Williams on his way back, so 802 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: we'll see about that. But anyway you slice it, this 803 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: is a big game coming up against the Seahawks. 804 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: So this is I mean, this is it's nice to 805 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: have this three game stretch at home. I mean three 806 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 3: home games in twelve days, which is which is wild. 807 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: You know, three home games in twelve days and they're 808 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 3: all against really good teams, you know, you Seattle, Cleveland 809 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 3: and then Cincinnati in prime time. 810 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: So Bank is going to be rocking. 811 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 3: It is going to be rocking, and I think that, like, 812 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 3: I like this matchup. We're gonna talk more about it 813 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: later in the week, but it's a challenging matchup. But 814 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 3: I like the Ravens chances in this game. I like 815 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: their ability to to you know, basically, could be able 816 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: to hold up well against the Seattle team. I think 817 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 3: that it's just favorable for the Ravens. So we'll talk 818 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 3: more about that later in the week, but I'm excited 819 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: already for sure. 820 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you email us at the lounge at Ravens 821 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. Make sure you're subscribed to you 822 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: of rating and review. We'll be back later this week 823 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: with Mark Andrews talking about nos Mark Andrews, it's only 824 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: a matter of time before he's the dog of the week. 825 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: Has he not been yet? 826 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't think so. 827 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 2: Okay, the two touchdown game wasn't a he wasn't a dog. 828 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: Then, No, we gave it to monk him. 829 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's right. 830 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we give it to monks in the booth. Yea, 831 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: the dog in the booth chained up up there. Anyway, 832 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. I'll be back with you later this week.