1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: by my partner in everything Packers, Wes Hodkowitz. Wes, we 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: have a ton of ground to cover on this show, 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: and uh, we're just gonna start with the fifty three 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: man roster. There's still been some changes and adjustments continue 7 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: to go on with it. But uh, I know we've 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: talked about this in the past, but I just I 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: need to start here because I think the story of 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: training camp in twenty twenty five for the Green Bay 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: Packers was bell Bo Melton. Excuse me, making a position 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: switch and making the team. I mean, this is my 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: twentieth training camp with Packers dot Com. You can add 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: a few more for my newspaper days back when I 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: was even younger. I don't I have never seen a 16 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: play who was asked to make a position switch and 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: then make the team that that guy has always ended 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: up getting cut. There isn't room for him, It doesn't 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: work out. Bowl Melton switches from receiver to cornerback. He's 20 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: obviously still a big part of things on special teams, 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: but he makes the squad and I can do nothing 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: but tip my cap to him. 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 2: It's all you can do. 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: I mean, when you make a switch like that, historically 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 3: that's usually a death now, right when when you're trying 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: to make at twenty six years old, he's been a 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: receiver all his life. And we get to mini camp 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: in the middle of June. Wasn't even at the beginning 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: of the offseason program. It was in the final stretch, 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 3: and he starts lining up with the cornerbacks and everybody's 31 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: kind of like, oh, well, this is interesting. Yeah, And 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: then he comes back at the start of training camp 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: and I think it was right from the first presser 34 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: that Brian Guducun said, Hey, he's going to be out 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: there with the defensive backs today. And as Gudacun's also 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: talked about after he was reviewing the fifty three man 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: roster with the media on Wednesday morning, this wasn't a 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: situation where it was like, okay, well, they just they 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: gave him a spot, like they were honestly surprised how 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: comfortable he looked there. He did not look like a 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: fish out of water in the cornerback position, which is 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: remarkable when you think about the fact that he's been 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 3: playing football's entire life. He's been mostly concentrated on receiver 44 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: in his college and professional career, and here he is 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: flipping sides and I even I'm between you, me and 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 3: our viewers. I messaged him yesterday. I was texting him 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: a little bit and said, the fact that he did 48 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: that in eight weeks is legendary. 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like that is wild that he was 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: able to pull that off. 51 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not just the story of this training camp 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, it's it's one of the best 53 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: training camp stories that either one of us has has 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: ever come across. And just kudos to Melton. I'm really 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: excited to see exactly what happens and what his role 56 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: becomes on this team as far as the depth at 57 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: cornerback and then and then what he perhaps brings on 58 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: special teams. Another guy to mention at cornerback before we 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: move on to some other spots. We knew going in 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of competition for the depth 61 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: and how that was going to shake out at that position, 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: and Kamal hadn't ends up making the fifty three. And 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: I point this out, and I don't know how big 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: of a role Kamal Hadden is gonna play. If you 65 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: were on this fifty three and you're at a position 66 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: like that where there can be as many as four 67 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: guys on the field at one time, there's a good 68 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: chance you're gonna be playing at some point. You're not 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: just gonna be riding the bench or be a game 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: day inactive for seventeen weeks. But Kamal hadn't. He dealt 71 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: with an injury in training camp. I believe it was 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: a hip injury. He came back, he was trying to 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: get back into the flow of things. Didn't have the 74 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: greatest game in Indianapolis. And you know me, during those games, Wes, 75 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm on the live chat, the live blog with the 76 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: fans and everything, and all the fans are saying, oh, 77 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, Kamal hadn't. You know? Nice knowing you, it 78 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: looks like, you know, he's gonna get cut, et cetera. 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: And I just you just have to let the entire 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: preseason play out, right, because hadden't came back. He kind 81 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: of got his legs under him again in the Indie game. 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: He came back in the joint practice against the Seahawks, 83 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: and in the preseason finale against Seattle, and he had 84 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: a fire about him, like he was talking and chirping 85 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and you know, trash talking and all that kind of stuff, 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: but he was also backing it up with what he 87 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: was doing out there on the field and just that 88 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, fiery all or nothing approach that he took 89 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: in the final week. It got him on this roster. 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd love to see it. And you know, I 91 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: always think it's funny. Two things of this one. That's 92 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: why the actual decision makers within the Packers are not 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: running a live blog during the game. They're not listening 94 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: to what the fans are saying in the direct regard. 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: Obviously in the overall macro level they are. But the 96 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 3: fact of the matter is is you have to look 97 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: at the totality of everything. It was a question that 98 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: you had even said to Brian Goodecuns that sort of 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: elicited his response on Kamal Hadden in that it's not 100 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: just about one specific instance, it's about the whole camp, 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: but also how you make progress throughout that camp. And 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: if you draw up a defensive back, if you drop 103 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: a corner specifically, you're going to come up with somebody, 104 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, prototypical wise, blueprint wise, it's going to look 105 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: an awful like Kamal Hadden. I mean, he is a 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: lengthy corner and the Packers pursued this guy man. I 107 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: mean they you go back to last year. Yes, he 108 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: got drafted by Kansas City, but it's not like he 109 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: was on the the you know, tryout circuit and just 110 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: randomly ended up in Green Bay. It was after final 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: cuts last year. The Packers quickly brought him in and 112 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: he had an opportunity to get elevated for two games, 113 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: and certainly as they're looking for options on the perimeter, 114 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: he gives them some depth there. What was the number 115 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: one thing you and I were talking about throughout the 116 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: offseason program and throughout training campus in the fact that 117 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: the Green Bay has a lot of guys who can 118 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: play the slot, including Nate Hobbs and Keishawn Nixon. They're 119 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: two number one, number two cornerbacks on the perimeter, but 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: what they were sort of lacking behind Carrington Valentine was 121 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: perimeter options. Now you have that with Hadden and what 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: it looks like you have it with bow Melton too. 123 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean that has predominantly been where Bow worked as well. 124 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: So a lot of versatility in that secondary. But to 125 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 3: be able to have a couple developed metal guys in 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: Bo's case learning the position and Hadden's case a guy 127 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: that had chops as a. 128 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 2: Six round pick. 129 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: Those are the guys now that you want to see 130 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: grow behind that top three, so to speak, at the 131 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: corner position. 132 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always a special moment for those guys who 133 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: make a fifty three coming out of training camp for 134 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the first time when it didn't happen for them as 135 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: a rookie, didn't happen as a draft pick, biding their 136 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: time on the practice squad, putting in the work, taking 137 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: another shot in whether it's year two or year three, 138 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, and Hadden't comes through there and 139 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: gets on the fifty three. Another topic to hit on. 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: The undrafted rookie streak appears like it will stay alive 141 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: here because Nazir Stackhouse, the undrafted rookie defensive tackle knows 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: tackle whatever you want to call him from Georgia. He 143 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: makes the fifty three along with one of his teammates 144 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: and defensive linemates at Georgia, Warren Brinson, who was a 145 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: six round draft pick and part of the Packers draft class. 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: But I think you neither you nor I is surprised 147 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: that Nazir Stackhouse made this team. And it's not just 148 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: because of the streak or anything that anybody wants to 149 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: keep going. You look at that, You look at that 150 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: young man, and he screams nose tackle, he screams run, stuffer. 151 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: And he did a lot of things in this preseason, 152 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: in this training camp, and in this preseason to show 153 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: that he can be as a young player, can be 154 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: a guy that you can stick in there in the 155 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,679 Speaker 1: middle of the defensive line, tell him to go stop 156 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: the run. 157 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike. 158 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: And this is gonna go down as probably one of 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: the more confusing undrafted stories for Green Bay. I am 160 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: not as much surprised that he made the fifty three 161 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: man roster as I am the fact that he wasn't drafted. 162 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: To begin with. 163 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: I would agree, this is a guy that was pretty 164 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: well credentialed to be at Georgia. Did start a lot 165 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: of games for Georgia. I think, correct me if I'm wrong. 166 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: He might have even had more starts than Warren Brinson 167 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: did during the course of his career. And not that 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: that's the whole litmus test. There's a lot that goes 169 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: into development who ultimately ends up being really good pros. 170 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: But this is not some guy from nobody you This 171 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: is a guy that came from one of the most 172 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: distinguished programs in the country and won some national championships, 173 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: and you know, came to Green Bay. I wouldn't say 174 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: with the chip on his shoulder, because he's a really gregarious, 175 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: pleasant guy, but the way he played on the practice field, 176 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: it looked like he really wanted this thing. 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: And if you look at it. 178 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: From the standpoint of what the Packers put into it, 179 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: I mean, he is one of the biggest investments the 180 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: Packers have ever made, at least during my time on 181 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: the beat, into an undrafted rookie. There was guaranteed money, 182 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: a good signing bonus. I mean, I just felt like 183 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: he lived up to everything and he earned that spot 184 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 3: and to be twenty one consecutive years now, and when 185 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: you look at the lineage, specifically on the defensive line, 186 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: the Packers have had some really good pros come out 187 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: of that system. And now with TJ. Slayton being gone 188 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: and some room there with the run defense, it's going 189 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: to take time. It's not going to be overnight. There 190 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: is no express route, especially when you're playing against some 191 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: of the biggest, baddest guys on the planet in the trenches. 192 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: But there is a platform there and a foundation for 193 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: stackhos to make a contribution very quickly for this defense. 194 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. I think he might be 195 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: thrown into the mix. There a couple of newcomers brought 196 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: in who are part of the Packers fifty three man 197 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: roster that we should talk about. The Packers, just before 198 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: all the roster decisions were made on Tuesday, traded a 199 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick in twenty twenty seven to the 200 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles for a backup offensive lineman. His name is 201 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: Darien Kinnard and he was drafted in the fourth round. Yeah, 202 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: I think fifth round, fifth round, Yes, because he happened 203 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: to be drafted just five selections after Zach Tom was 204 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: taken at the end of the fourth round in twenty 205 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: twenty two. He was taken at the near the top 206 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: of the fifth round, just five selections after Tom. The 207 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: Packers making a move here to shore up some of 208 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: the depth on the offensive line with with Kinnard, partly 209 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: as a result of Travis Glover going on injured reserve 210 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: with the shoulder issue and he is out for the season. 211 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: And then Jacob Monk is beginning the season on injured 212 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: reserve with the designation to return from his injury in 213 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: training camp. So some questions about the depth there because 214 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: of injuries and guys that went down, and uh and 215 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: Brian Gudokunz makes a trade. 216 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: He does and as he mentioned, I mean, when you know, 217 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: they felt really good about how they were sitting with 218 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: all their various options on the offensive line, but ultimately 219 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you know, they just 220 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: kind of ran out of bodies. I mean, when you 221 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 3: look at John Williams, I think they had high aspirations 222 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: for him. He has a back injury, they have the 223 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: surgery in the off season. He's still on physically able 224 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: to perform. Travis Glover had put together some good things. 225 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: I mean when you look at the structurally from an 226 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: offensive linement perspective, I mean, the guy has everything you 227 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: could ever want. 228 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: And they felt good about the way he had come 229 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: back from you know, a subparer Ormans when he got 230 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: thrown in there in the playoff game in Philadelphia last year. 231 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: They really liked where Glover was headed. But then unfortunately 232 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: his season ends with a serious injury. 233 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean, just remarkable. 234 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: The fact that, you know, it just seemed like Green 235 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: Bay was offensive line was a weird one for green 236 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: Bay this camp because it wasn't like they were ever 237 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: really in trouble, but like they just were always kind 238 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: of teetering on who that next guy up is going 239 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: to be. And then once Jacob Monk injured the hamstring 240 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: and had to go on as we found out, in 241 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: reserve designated to return, eliminating him for the first four games. 242 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: That's where Gudacuns felt like. 243 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: They, Okay, we got to go use our pro personnel 244 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: folks and find somebody. Knard is a fascinating situation and 245 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: that yes, he's been he's won three Super Bowls, he's 246 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: played in two NFL games, and you know, he was 247 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: drafted and then he ends up on a practice squad, 248 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 3: ends up, you know, signing eventually with Philadelphia. Doesn't play 249 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: much last year, but Green Bay talked about it, and 250 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: Gudacuns talked about it. The way that Philadelphia develops offensive lineman, 251 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: there's a lot of respect there. You think back to 252 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: even you know, Andre Dillard last year they brought him 253 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: in after his time with the Eagles. So the Packers 254 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: feel like this is a guy that can add some 255 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 3: depth there both at guard, at tackle, and ultimately for 256 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: as much versatility as they have amongst those front six. 257 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: There's a lot of question marks after that, a lot 258 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: of youth after that, and he's somebody that kind of 259 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: helps absolve that. 260 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Really interesting that he's just the second player in 261 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era to win us to earn a 262 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring three consecutive years. He had two with 263 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City before he went to the Eagles and then 264 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: and then the Eagles end up winning it. Of course. 265 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: So the other new addition linebacker Nick Is it Nieman 266 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: or Nyman? 267 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: Oh? That put me on the spot. Yeah, I know, 268 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: I forgot that. I did plenty of research on him. 269 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot to look up the pronunciation. I'm gonna 270 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: say Nyman and hope that, hope that it's right. But 271 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's Nieman. Maybe you can find it while I'm 272 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: talking about him. Anyway, he becomes a signing to the 273 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: fifty three. He was released by the Houston Texans, who 274 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: had signed him as a free agent. After four years 275 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Chargers. He was originally a draft 276 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: pick of the Chargers back in twenty twenty one. He 277 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: was actually taken in the same round, in the sixth 278 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: round in twenty twenty one, which is the same round 279 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: the Packers took Isaiah McDuffie, also a linebacker that year. 280 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: He hasn't played a whole lot on defense over his 281 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: four years with the Chargers, a little over three hundred 282 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: snaps on defense, but almost thirteen hundred special team snaps 283 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: in his career to this point. So this is a 284 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: move not just for the linebacker depth, but to boost 285 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: the special teams and bring another veteran into that bunch there. 286 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: And I guess, for whatever reason, he signed a multi 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: year contract with Houston with some salary guarantees as a 288 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: free agent. It doesn't work out. They end up cutting 289 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: him kind of a surprise cut on Tuesday earlier this week, 290 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: and the Packers swoop in and pick him up, and 291 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: he's on Green base fifty three. 292 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: First off, Nick Neeman Nieman, thank you to Hall of 293 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: Fame tight end Antonio Gates for that pronunciation, because I 294 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: went back and watched him getting drafted in twenty twenty one. 295 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: Nicely done. Yeah, thanks, Nothing nothing like a truly unscripted show. 296 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: Nothing like a truly unscripted show. So I'm banking on 297 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: Antonio Gates actually getting that pronunciation right. That being said, 298 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: hey listen, this guy when you go back and look 299 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: at his RADS score was nuts. I mean I think 300 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: it was like, was a nine to five to one, 301 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: ran a really good forty at his pro day coming 302 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: out of COVID, and has been a really productive player 303 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: for a number of years. The part that I laughed at, 304 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: it's not so much about him signing with Houston and 305 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: not working out them giving him guaranteed money that it's 306 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: how many guys in the rich Basacia area that Green 307 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: Bay has built their special teams around that got here late. 308 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: They've Zane Anderson was claimed two years ago, right, he's 309 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: a core guy for them. Eric Wilson signed in the middle. 310 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 3: He actually signed the week before he went to London 311 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, went back played in London back 312 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: to back weeks because of the previously being with the 313 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints. There's been a number of these guys 314 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: that have Christian Welch is one of them too, who 315 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: also returned back on the practice squad after he didn't 316 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: make the fifty three. So these are the type of 317 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: guys you look for. And honestly, Mike, I think you 318 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: and I when we looked at it and we saw 319 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: that the Packers cut down to fifty three plus the 320 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: roster of fifty three, but only included four inside linebackers, 321 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: it was only a matter of time before either somebody 322 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: was back or elevated. You're not going to go into 323 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: a season with just four, not with the way, not 324 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: how important they are to special teams. 325 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you figured something was in the works there and 326 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: this was the this was the direction the Packers went. 327 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: So I want to shift gears to the Packers starting 328 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: their preparation now for Week one against Detroit. But we 329 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: do have to pay some bills while we're here. So 330 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: for right now, we need to have a word from 331 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: our sponsors. 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Pit Boss Grills available at Menard's. 341 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers. Unscripted Wes. We got a glimpse 342 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: at Wednesday's practice for green Bay. A couple of practices 343 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: this week and then the players will get a little 344 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: bit of a break. Then they'll be back on Labor 345 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Day on Monday to get things rolling again. Some good 346 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: news on the health front for Green Bay here because 347 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: we saw Xavier McKinney, Aaron Banks, Elton Jenkins, Jaden Red 348 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: and Dontavian Wicks, all of whom missed time, some more 349 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: than others, but all of whom missed time during training 350 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: camp with various injuries. They were all back on the 351 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: practice field on Wednesday. Now, there are some guys we 352 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: did not see, Nate Hobbs, Saveon Williams, Baron Surrell, Zane Anderson. 353 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: They were not back just yet, so we'll see what happens. 354 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Perhaps next week, maybe somebody from that group will be back. 355 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: But I think It's pretty clear based on what we've 356 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: seen that the Packers were being extremely cautious with players 357 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: who were injured during training camp, the guys that they 358 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: know that they were going to need to count on 359 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: when the regular season got here. They if somebody got hurt, 360 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: whether it was Xavier McKinney, whether it was a flared 361 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: up back with Elton Jenkins, whether it was you know, 362 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Jaden Reid's foot, they weren't going to push anybody in 363 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: training camp and take any chances with anything getting worse. 364 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: And hopefully that strategy he pays off here with the 365 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: Packers getting back a little closer to full health for 366 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: Week one. 367 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 3: Hannah up in the control room if she wants to, 368 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 3: she probably doesn't have the graphic available, but she can 369 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 3: roll the graphic. It can come down on the screen. 370 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: The Mike Spofford, let's be real moment of the week 371 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: begins with the fact that Green Bay could have made 372 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: some moves on Wednesday. Nick Neeman comes in. They could 373 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: have pushed any of these guys that were injured onto 374 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 3: injured reserve now and had the option to bring them 375 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: back at some point. You have the two that you 376 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: can automatically put on which they used on marsha On 377 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: Lloyd and Jacob Monk. But then the day after you 378 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: can carry them through the fifty three put them on IR. 379 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: You have up to those eight designations for the season. 380 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: Green Bay did not do any of that. Unfortunately, Micah 381 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: Robinson was released the rookie seventh round pick. Wishing Michael well. 382 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: Awesome dude, Hopefully I'd love to see him back in 383 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: green Bay here. All that being said, if there was 384 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: any question long term about any of these injuries for 385 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: Green Bay, whether the guy's practice day or they did not, 386 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: those guys would be moving over to IR and Mike 387 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: would still be on the fifty three. So I think 388 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: that's really bodes well. The other thing I want to 389 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: mention with that, it's great to see Jayden Reid out there, 390 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: Awesome to see Dontavian Wicks, all the guys that you mentioned, 391 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: certainly Banks and Jenkins backstuff trying to work through all that. 392 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: But the fact that Zavier McKinney practice individuals limited in 393 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: that joint session with the Seahawks spread and was able 394 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: to be back out there today, I think that's a 395 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: really positive sign for his calf. Those soft tissue injuries 396 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 3: you never can be too sure, but obviously you wouldn't 397 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: be out there if the body's not responding to that. 398 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 3: Brian Goodcouins was asked about Reid wis feeling good, hopeful 399 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: for them and their availability against the Lions. Because here's 400 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 3: the thing, Mike, this is the reality of it. You 401 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 3: don't look past any opponent, but the Packers need these veterans, 402 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: need their players to play two games in four days 403 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: against the Detroit Lions and then the Washington Commanders. You 404 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: got to give them a puncher's chance at being as 405 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: healthy as possible going into the season. And I would 406 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: imagine I would wager with how they handled all these guys, 407 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: Jordan Love among them, that erring on the high side 408 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: of car during an otherwise, I don't want to say meaningless, 409 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: but you've already put your installs in. It's not life 410 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: or death with these practices. Take your time, regather yourself, 411 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: be ready for week one. 412 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 413 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: I think a couple of things that they were looking 414 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: at there with regard to some of these the decisions 415 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: and really playing the high side of caution with these guys. 416 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: One is what you said that when the regular season starts, 417 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: you have a late Sunday afternoon and the Thursday night 418 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: game right out of the gate. So health health is 419 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: going to be paramount. And obviously those games are against 420 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: two NFC contenders, just like the Packers are. But the 421 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: other part too, is because unlike last year, the Packers 422 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: don't have like this Friday game to start the season 423 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: where the calendar gets all shifted around the Packers headed 424 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: into this week. You make the roster decisions on Tuesday. 425 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: It sounds like from what Matt Lafleur said, they conducted 426 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: a closed pree late in the day on Tuesday, then 427 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: practices Wednesday and Thursday. Next week, a practice on Monday, 428 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: and then the usual Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 429 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: So just over the. 430 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: Two weeks essentially between roster decisions and week one, that's 431 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: seven practices. So resting up these guys and getting them back, 432 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you don't want anybody to miss time, 433 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: but when you're looking at the calendar and saying, hey, 434 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: if we can get them back at roster decision time, 435 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: there are still seven practices for them to get out there, 436 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: to get the reps that they need, et cetera, et cetera. 437 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: And the focus has also been obviously on quarterback Jordan 438 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: Love and working him back from the surgery on his 439 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: left thumb. From what we saw in the brief portion 440 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: of practice we were able to watch, it looks like 441 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: he is using that left hand more, certainly more than 442 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: he was. He's no longer taking the snap off of 443 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: the stool in front of him. He's actually catching shotgun snaps, 444 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: taking snaps from under center. So that's another step forward 445 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: for Jordan Love. And and we'll see where this goes. 446 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: But for all of the all of the angst and 447 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: consternation and whatnot with regard to the team's health, and 448 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to downplay it any because nobody wants 449 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: to have that many frontline players missing that much time 450 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: in training camp. But hopefully some signs are pointing in 451 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: the right direction here for Green. 452 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: And as much as you don't want to have guys 453 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: not on the practice field in training camp, you also 454 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: don't want guys not on the practice field and they'll 455 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: lead up to your first game of the season. 456 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I. 457 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: Think Green Bay was finding a way to do that. 458 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 3: I love what you mentioned there, and it's a really 459 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: good point by counting up how many of these practices 460 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 3: are available to them both next week and also during 461 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: this interim period, this mini buy period with what would 462 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 3: have historically been like the last preseason game week, right, 463 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 3: So being able to have a little bit more of 464 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: a buffer there, I think is really important for this 465 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: football team. And again, just take it all in and 466 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: look at what it is. I mean, Jordan Love has 467 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: a rapport with these guys. We saw one thing out 468 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: it's not the official NFL tabulation for roster age, but 469 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 3: there's been a couple reports out signifying that Green Bay 470 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: will be the youngest team in the NFL for the 471 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: third consecutive season. Well, they didn't get to be the 472 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: youngest team in the NFL by suddenly bringing in a 473 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: bunch of new bodies. There's a few, but offensively, it's 474 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: a lot of those same guys that Love has been 475 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 3: working with. Yes, you have to get the chemistry down, 476 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: you got to get your timing down, but it's not 477 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: like these are new faces to him. And then the 478 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: one that is potentially gonna be a new weapon in 479 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: this offense, the biggest piece, well that's the one that 480 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: fortunately was healthy throughout training camp, in Matthew Golden got 481 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: work with both Love and then also Malik willis down the. 482 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: Stretch absolutely well. One last thing before we go and 483 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: before we officially turn the page foward to week one 484 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: for our shows next week coming up and previewing the 485 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Lions game and all that is Thursday night inside the 486 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: lambeau Field Atrium, the long time and now retired president 487 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: and CEO of the Green Bay Packers, Mark Murphy, will 488 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: be inducted by his lonesome, which is an honor in 489 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: and of itself, into the Packers Hall of Fame. And 490 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: I know there are so many things that we could 491 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: talk about with with regard to his legacy, but if 492 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, listing all of the accomplishments, 493 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: and there are many of them when it comes to 494 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: this football team and everything about this organization. To me personally, 495 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: the one that is at the top of the list 496 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: was that twenty twenty five NFL Draft being in Green Bay. 497 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: That was Mark Murphy's. That was Mark Murphy's doing. He's 498 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: the one who sold Roger Goodell essentially on the idea 499 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: that green Bay can make this special and make it work. 500 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: And it wasn't just special, it was spectacular. And I 501 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: give Mark Murphy all the credit in the world for that. 502 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, and as you and I have talked 503 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: to nauseum at this point, you know, it was the 504 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: perfect cap stone to his run here in Green Bay. 505 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: And when you think about just those seventeen seventeen plus 506 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: years of him at the Helm. Obviously we've talked about 507 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 3: as a person, but and I've done that in myself, 508 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: given some my own, you know, kind of anecdotes of 509 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 3: working with Mark. But the one thing I will add 510 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: on to this is the Packers were pretty darn successful 511 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: during his stewardship of this organization as well. Yeah, I 512 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 3: know everybody wants to win as many Super Bowls as possible, 513 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: but they got one. He leaves here with the Super 514 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 3: Bowl ring. He had to make a really pivotal decision 515 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen. In twenty eighteen, a difficult decision moving 516 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: on from Ted Thompson, hiring Brian Goodikuntz, and then obviously 517 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: a year later, within twelve months of that, letting Mike 518 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: McCarthy go, and three weeks after that, hiring Matt Lafleur 519 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: as his new head coach, the Packers new head coach. 520 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: I've always talked about this, and I think I've said 521 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: it on some of our shows. But I'll say it 522 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: once more. When you can have that type of run 523 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 3: and you hire one GM in one head coach, that 524 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: says something about your leadership, had said something about the 525 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: direction the franchise is going. Because what made the Packers 526 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: successful when he started, when he inherited that job from 527 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 3: Bob Harlan, that's flip. That whole script is flipped by the. 528 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: End of it. 529 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to create your own way. And 530 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 3: I felt like Mark he followed the footsteps for a 531 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: couple of years there, but by the end of it, 532 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: I mean he was walking in un you know, unfamiliar 533 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: sand and still led this place with vision character and 534 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: never told anybody. So you know, I never never was 535 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: sitting there saying, Hey, I like Matt Lafleuria. You guys 536 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 3: gave me a little bit of flack about hiring him 537 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: or being involved in the process. 538 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: No, he never did any of that. 539 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: He he kept it real and uh yeah, in addition 540 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: to the draft, everything else he did, the Super Bowl, 541 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: the monumental growth of this organization, myself representing some of that. Yeah, 542 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: I just it is fitting that he is a loan 543 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: inductee this year it's an honor reserve for few, and 544 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: certainly Mark Mark Murphy has earned that. 545 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna miss uh. It's things had changed 546 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: over the last few years. But I actually I got 547 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: to spend a lot of years at the road games 548 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: sitting next to him in the press box. I was 549 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: sort of like at the end of our website and 550 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: communications row, and then Mark was was at the other 551 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: end of you know, kind of the executive and you know, 552 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: personnel executives and whatnot that were also sitting in the 553 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: press box. And I sat next to him at a 554 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: at a number of games, and and you know, too many, 555 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: too many little stories to tell, I guess, but but 556 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: I always I'll always remember that because because as much 557 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: as yeah, he's the boss and he's the president and 558 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: the CEO, sitting next to him in the press box 559 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: watching a football game, you're reminded the guy was a player, yeah, 560 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, and and that that never necessarily left him 561 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: either the way he watched the game, the way he 562 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: understood the game. And uh, and that's easy to forget 563 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: because even if you took out his NFL playing career, 564 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: he's had an absolutely incredible professional Oh, it's insane, you know, 565 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: list of achievements and accomplishments and everything you did even 566 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: before he got to the Packers. So but anyway, hats 567 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: off to Mark Murphy, a tremendous honor, and I hope 568 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: he's not a stranger around here. 569 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: No doubt he will be. 570 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna obviously let it be the chairman 571 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: now and lead the Packers into the next era. But 572 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 3: certainly I would expect him to still be around here. 573 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: I know obviously he's going to be involved, I believe 574 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: with UWGB here in town as well. The last thing 575 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: I'll close on with that when you mentioned how Mark 576 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: was sitting next to you in the press box, that 577 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: ain't common practice. 578 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 2: There aren't a lot. 579 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: Of people in those positions that he's in ownership or 580 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: just in the CEO or presidential role that's doing that 581 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: type of thing. Mark did that because he wanted to 582 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: be out there. He wanted to be by his personnel guys. 583 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: He wanted to be a little bit amongst the people. 584 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, special, very special. 585 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: To absolutely well with that, we'll call it a rap 586 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow 587 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: all of our coverage of the team and we will 588 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: be back next week, back on our regular schedule, hopefully 589 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: with two shows per week leading up to Week one 590 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: and the season opener against the Detroit Lions. For WES, 591 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: I am Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We 592 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: will see you next time.