WEBVTT - Pop Music with Brian Patrick Davis 0:00:00.530 --> 0:00:02.950 I do feel like, one, Alex, it's nice to have 0:00:02.970 --> 0:00:04.390 you here. It's nice to have you in Atlanta. 0:00:04.450 --> 0:00:05.489 It's nice to be in Atlanta. 0:00:05.510 --> 0:00:06.670 It was nice to have a little kiki. 0:00:06.790 --> 0:00:08.150 It's nice to be in Atlanta. 0:00:08.350 --> 0:00:09.130 Last night. 0:00:09.230 --> 0:00:11.650 I'm really not going to drag you for folks. You 0:00:11.690 --> 0:00:12.290 know what you did. 0:00:13.770 --> 0:00:15.030 Can I know what he did? 0:00:15.070 --> 0:00:16.050 We can't do this. 0:00:16.090 --> 0:00:19.029 We can't allude to such things without addressing what's really 0:00:19.090 --> 0:00:20.130 between us right now. 0:00:20.710 --> 0:00:22.110 There's a rift between us. 0:00:22.130 --> 0:00:23.509 Alex lied and said he knew how to play space. 0:00:23.550 --> 0:00:25.290 I did not lie about knowing how to play space. 0:00:25.370 --> 0:00:26.450 I know how to play space. 0:00:26.510 --> 0:00:27.890 And he sat down and he was like, I could 0:00:27.910 --> 0:00:29.380 be your partner. I know how to play. And then 0:00:29.500 --> 0:00:32.180 he cut. He went over me. I threw a king 0:00:32.220 --> 0:00:34.140 of diamonds. All the cards were on the table. He 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.920 put an ace of diamonds out. When he had diamonds, 0:00:37.100 --> 0:00:37.960 other diamonds in his hand. 0:00:38.380 --> 0:00:39.019 And then he reneged. 0:00:39.060 --> 0:00:42.380 This is one of those situations where A, we'd been drinking. B, 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.820 I was distracted by some other outside sort of conversation. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.339 I also didn't see what she put out. So I 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.440 had to, I can't talk. I can't talk to her 0:00:52.450 --> 0:00:55.620 across the table. So I had to refocus and sort. 0:00:55.500 --> 0:00:55.800 Of be like. 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:57.290 Out of your life. No, I'm not. I'm telling you. 0:00:57.500 --> 0:00:59.320 No, this is my truth. When you threw the A's 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:01.060 and diamonds, no one was talking to you. Ty had 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:02.200 not came up to you and asked you about the 0:01:02.220 --> 0:01:05.940 McDonald's yet. The McDonald's came in when you were nicked. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:06.500 I was. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.060 I'm going to say that because I don't renege. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:11.920 The dirty dicks swinging around Bulldogs? 0:01:11.940 --> 0:01:12.700 Let me say this. 0:01:12.860 --> 0:01:16.570 Y'all were at Bulldogs? We had a trash night. We 0:01:16.590 --> 0:01:18.950 had a trash gay night in Atlanta. We decided we 0:01:18.970 --> 0:01:21.050 were going to be trash on the previous episode. We 0:01:21.069 --> 0:01:23.010 were like, we're going to hang out. She leaves me 0:01:23.130 --> 0:01:26.170 in Atlanta when I'm here. She'll go be with her girlfriend. 0:01:26.209 --> 0:01:27.110 She's in love now. 0:01:27.350 --> 0:01:30.250 I love that for you, by the way. 0:01:30.270 --> 0:01:32.150 She doesn't want to spend gay time with her homeboy 0:01:32.290 --> 0:01:33.590 who flew two hours here. 0:01:33.610 --> 0:01:34.800 Because when I do renege in states. 0:01:36.180 --> 0:01:37.320 Can I tell a secret? 0:01:37.340 --> 0:01:38.020 Okay. 0:01:38.060 --> 0:01:41.259 I also don't know how to play spades. And also, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.900 I do not like watching people play spades. It gets 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:45.910 way too aggressive. 0:01:45.970 --> 0:01:46.610 That's true. 0:01:46.670 --> 0:01:49.130 I think there's way too much aggression to this game, Brian. 0:01:49.150 --> 0:01:50.890 You are absolutely correct. And I just want to say 0:01:50.930 --> 0:01:52.370 for the record, let me say this. 0:01:52.470 --> 0:01:52.730 Yes. 0:01:52.910 --> 0:01:57.200 That there is video proof. 0:01:56.970 --> 0:01:59.080 Of me knowing how to play spades on Nick Cannon's 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:00.500 podcast with Paris Chaché. 0:02:00.540 --> 0:02:01.200 We won. 0:02:01.900 --> 0:02:05.059 All rounds. So there's actual proof of me knowing how 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:05.820 to play spades. 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:06.340 Sure. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:07.160 I'm not doing this with you. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.579 You know how to play TV spades. That ain't TV spades. 0:02:10.660 --> 0:02:12.370 That ain't TV spades. 0:02:12.410 --> 0:02:13.490 We play. Sure. 0:02:13.870 --> 0:02:14.050 Sure. 0:02:14.090 --> 0:02:17.630 But when shit gets real and we're in the back 0:02:17.710 --> 0:02:18.730 of Bulldogs, you don't. 0:02:18.630 --> 0:02:20.830 Know how to get it. With dirty dicks swinging around. Yeah, 0:02:20.850 --> 0:02:21.950 you don't know how to. 0:02:21.710 --> 0:02:22.470 Get the shit done. 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.520 Oh, by the way, Brian Patrick Davis is here, guys. 0:02:27.139 --> 0:02:30.739 Oh, wait. Yeah, let's get to this intro. 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:31.800 We were talking about your intro. 0:02:31.900 --> 0:02:34.020 I actually had an idea for this intro because I 0:02:34.060 --> 0:02:37.299 was like, one, no one really knows what you do. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:42.460 And typically when we intro somebody, we say what they do. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.320 We even had to discuss amongst ourselves. 0:02:44.580 --> 0:02:46.639 So then I was like, I'm going to do an 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.970 intro where I just guess what Brian does. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:49.220 Okay. 0:02:49.250 --> 0:02:49.380 Okay. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:50.260 Okay. 0:02:50.380 --> 0:02:52.350 I'm loving your facial response to this. 0:02:52.389 --> 0:02:55.669 Guys, it's just, this is really funny because, like, a 0:02:55.730 --> 0:02:56.870 lot of people say this. 0:02:57.250 --> 0:02:57.970 Uh-huh, uh-huh. 0:02:58.010 --> 0:03:00.850 So, guys, welcome. I'm not going to say influencer because 0:03:00.930 --> 0:03:05.190 influencer is, like, tacky. I'm going to say tastemaker, culture curator. 0:03:05.210 --> 0:03:05.350 Um.... 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.620 Music enthusiast slash. 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:11.940 I was going to say aficionado. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:13.000 That's what I was going to say. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.610 I wanted to give it something above. 0:03:15.630 --> 0:03:17.790 When I was first in Atlanta and met this dude, 0:03:18.050 --> 0:03:20.570 also mysterious, rich kid. 0:03:20.610 --> 0:03:22.590 I was going to say socialite. Socialite. 0:03:22.630 --> 0:03:25.280 When people were really calling themselves that, I was like, no, 0:03:25.290 --> 0:03:26.060 that person's a socialite. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:26.900 Kind of like Jeremy O. 0:03:26.940 --> 0:03:30.240 Harris before Jeremy O. Harris existed, but in the black 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:31.660 space of Atlanta. Yeah. 0:03:31.820 --> 0:03:32.600 Give it up for Brian Patrick. 0:03:32.620 --> 0:03:36.350 There we go. How do you feel about that evaluation? 0:03:36.550 --> 0:03:42.900 So, I feel like that evaluation is kind of correct. 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:44.900 Anything you'd add? 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:45.730 Anything you'd take out? 0:03:45.940 --> 0:03:49.120 So, yeah. A lot of people think that I'm a scammer. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:52.600 Confirm or deny? 0:03:53.140 --> 0:04:02.140 I'm gonna deny scammer. I am not a scammer. Truthfully, like, y'all, 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:06.950 I never really had, like, a stiff job until, like, COVID. 0:04:07.270 --> 0:04:10.710 I was, like... I became the creative director at Slutty Vegan, 0:04:10.750 --> 0:04:11.660 which is, like, a.... 0:04:13.490 --> 0:04:15.630 Well, that place is back in the news. 0:04:17.950 --> 0:04:19.270 I did that for five years. 0:04:19.589 --> 0:04:21.850 And then I got back to just kind of being 0:04:22.089 --> 0:04:27.460 in the creative freelance music space. So by trade, I 0:04:27.500 --> 0:04:29.820 started off as a graphic designer. 0:04:30.020 --> 0:04:32.260 You were in the concrete loop. 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.580 Because that's where I first got introduced to you. 0:04:34.620 --> 0:04:38.330 We were Twitter buddies for a very long time. Looking 0:04:38.370 --> 0:04:40.849 back at when Twitter was really like, you know, the wild, 0:04:40.890 --> 0:04:41.469 wild west. 0:04:41.510 --> 0:04:41.849 Yes. 0:04:42.250 --> 0:04:43.990 Cutting up one line together and I was like I 0:04:44.130 --> 0:04:45.570 fuck with this individual right here. 0:04:45.510 --> 0:04:48.359 Absolutely and I was just telling Sam that this is 0:04:48.390 --> 0:04:51.320 our first time meeting in person I think no actually 0:04:51.420 --> 0:04:53.500 I think we had like a little passing moment because 0:04:53.540 --> 0:04:55.620 I used to come to Atlanta for like spring break 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.179 and stuff like that and I feel like we crossed 0:04:57.220 --> 0:04:59.770 paths lightly I don't know if it was like an 0:04:59.810 --> 0:05:01.049 official thing but this. 0:05:00.930 --> 0:05:04.099 Is like our first like So are we talking like 0:05:04.700 --> 0:05:07.140 Dick brushes past booty on the patio at Blake's? 0:05:07.220 --> 0:05:08.140 Are we talking. 0:05:08.420 --> 0:05:09.520 I don't think we're talking that. 0:05:09.540 --> 0:05:11.320 I don't think we're talking that. No, I think it's 0:05:11.380 --> 0:05:13.490 like I was out at like a. 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.880 So I do go out. Oh, you do go out. See? 0:05:16.900 --> 0:05:17.730 This is years ago. 0:05:17.750 --> 0:05:18.730 This is years ago. 0:05:18.770 --> 0:05:21.610 Maybe like a Trax. Okay, period. Like a Trax. 0:05:21.710 --> 0:05:22.370 Now that. 0:05:22.390 --> 0:05:23.230 Trax Atlanta. 0:05:23.310 --> 0:05:25.250 I think it was that. 0:05:25.270 --> 0:05:26.110 Yeah, what a time. 0:05:26.130 --> 0:05:28.210 So that means it was crowded wherever we went to. 0:05:28.270 --> 0:05:28.830 It was crowded. 0:05:28.950 --> 0:05:29.240 It was dark. 0:05:29.310 --> 0:05:30.200 It was dark and crowded. 0:05:30.220 --> 0:05:30.380 Seedy. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.660 It was seedy. Shout out to Trax. 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.839 And Trax girls. What a time. Yes, absolutely. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:35.260 What a time. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.120 Look back at that. 0:05:36.260 --> 0:05:39.980 But yeah, like by trade, I was a graphic designer. 0:05:40.730 --> 0:05:44.070 And Concrete Loop kind of like was a place where I, 0:05:44.089 --> 0:05:47.770 I forgot about Concrete Loop, got a lot of connects with, 0:05:48.910 --> 0:05:51.590 And I started doing like a little freelance creative, a 0:05:51.610 --> 0:05:56.020 little creative direction, got into songwriting, a little vocal production. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.719 Just an it girl. Yeah. That's what I remember. 0:05:58.740 --> 0:05:59.750 You were an it girly. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.850 I mean, what can I say? 0:06:04.910 --> 0:06:06.150 But yeah, that's, I mean. 0:06:07.490 --> 0:06:10.360 Yeah, that's kind of like where... And as far as the... 0:06:10.570 --> 0:06:12.850 Let me address, too, the not going outside thing. 0:06:12.870 --> 0:06:13.030 Okay. 0:06:13.330 --> 0:06:16.029 My social media handle for a long time has been 0:06:16.310 --> 0:06:17.029 Black Socialite. 0:06:17.050 --> 0:06:18.410 Quite literally, yeah. 0:06:18.710 --> 0:06:21.250 And Fadia Cater, shout out to her. 0:06:21.270 --> 0:06:22.360 Shout out to that oldie, Fadia. 0:06:22.380 --> 0:06:23.120 Yeah. 0:06:23.300 --> 0:06:26.460 Basically gave me that name back when I was partying, 0:06:27.100 --> 0:06:29.599 you know, in Atlanta. I was way too young to 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.980 be out, but I was always out and... I just 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.159 got burnt out, y'all. 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.219 You said enough with the Freddie O pictures, you know. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.810 Before Getty, there was Freddie O. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.500 Shout out to Freddie O. Check the Freddie O. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.430 And I think, like, y'all, like, honestly, like, when I 0:06:46.460 --> 0:06:48.890 got into my 30s, I was just kind of like, ugh. 0:06:49.110 --> 0:06:52.210 This is so, like, my party clothes are so binding. 0:06:52.250 --> 0:06:54.810 I was tired of wearing heels. Like, you know what 0:06:54.830 --> 0:06:56.110 I'm saying? Like, you just get to a point where 0:06:56.130 --> 0:06:56.670 you're like, ugh. 0:06:57.390 --> 0:06:59.610 And I see the same old queens pouring in, like, 0:06:59.710 --> 0:07:04.320 old cups of coffee. It's just like, girl, like. 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:05.640 You were a girl about town. 0:07:06.060 --> 0:07:08.900 Yeah, until I wasn't. But then I pop up for 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.480 special things. You do. 0:07:10.740 --> 0:07:12.620 You pop out on occasion. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.440 When my friends DJ, I pop out. I try to 0:07:16.490 --> 0:07:17.230 be supportive. 0:07:17.250 --> 0:07:18.270 Right, right, right. 0:07:18.330 --> 0:07:20.350 It's always nice to see you outside, I have to say. 0:07:20.450 --> 0:07:20.710 Yeah. 0:07:21.110 --> 0:07:22.210 We're going to get into this year. 0:07:22.230 --> 0:07:23.630 Let's dive in. 0:07:23.710 --> 0:07:26.750 You picked 1998. But what you were really specific about. 0:07:27.460 --> 0:07:30.020 This year, and overall what you wanted to talk about, 0:07:30.420 --> 0:07:33.130 first and foremost, did I know you in 98? 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:33.460 No. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:39.720 I would like you, we'd like to start with a guess. 0:07:39.900 --> 0:07:41.200 Who were you in 98? 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:41.520 Yes. 0:07:41.740 --> 0:07:42.280 What's it given? 0:07:42.300 --> 0:07:44.340 Who was Brian? What was Brian doing? 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:49.080 In 98, I was doing a lot of performing in 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.700 my grandmother's basement. 0:07:51.490 --> 0:07:52.580 Singing, dancing. 0:07:53.130 --> 0:07:53.710 All of that. 0:07:53.730 --> 0:07:54.410 Okay. 0:07:54.670 --> 0:07:58.520 A lot of people don't- Like, who's your go-to? What 0:07:58.540 --> 0:07:59.700 are you, like, your go-to? 0:08:00.060 --> 0:08:02.120 A lot of the girls, you know. Like, are you 0:08:02.140 --> 0:08:04.970 Spice Girl in it? I'm Spice Girl in it. I'm 0:08:05.010 --> 0:08:06.010 Destiny's Child in it. 0:08:06.030 --> 0:08:07.440 Which Spice Girl are you? 0:08:08.980 --> 0:08:11.700 I would say that I'm, you know, the baby of 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:12.559 scary and posh. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:16.040 See, I was going to assume posh. You give posh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.360 I'm a scary girl, though. 0:08:17.380 --> 0:08:21.220 Oh, okay. Well, I mean, she's ours. She belongs to us. 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:25.740 But, like, definitely, like, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child. 0:08:25.820 --> 0:08:26.140 Okay. 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:27.170 Britney. 0:08:27.190 --> 0:08:27.850 Aaliyah. 0:08:27.900 --> 0:08:29.150 Aaliyah, for sure. 0:08:29.250 --> 0:08:30.030 I knew the entire. 0:08:30.050 --> 0:08:30.790 Brian loves Aaliyah. 0:08:30.870 --> 0:08:33.709 I knew the Are You That Somebody video choreography front 0:08:33.830 --> 0:08:34.130 and back. 0:08:34.309 --> 0:08:37.730 Absolutely. So I was just like a... I was very 0:08:37.809 --> 0:08:41.730 much that kid. Like, yeah. I was the one that 0:08:41.750 --> 0:08:43.350 was taking my CD booklet to school. 0:08:43.429 --> 0:08:44.170 You know. 0:08:44.510 --> 0:08:45.100 Showing off. 0:08:45.260 --> 0:08:48.280 Yeah. For sure. For sure. 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:49.500 Showing off. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.000 With, like, the liner, like, the booklet underneath the CD. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:54.780 I know some motherfuckers that did that. 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:56.850 Absolutely. That's why it was so thick. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:58.870 No, that's how you had to keep it. You put 0:08:58.890 --> 0:09:00.170 the book and then you put the CD. 0:09:00.190 --> 0:09:00.970 The CD, yeah. 0:09:01.070 --> 0:09:02.929 To let people know also that you owned this. 0:09:03.090 --> 0:09:05.329 And you walked around with this motherfucker. 0:09:05.350 --> 0:09:06.929 From some CD thing. 0:09:07.010 --> 0:09:09.800 This belongs to me. It's mine. I own everything. 0:09:09.980 --> 0:09:11.020 It was the Bible. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.059 It was your Bible. Yeah, for sure. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:13.680 Okay. 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.839 And so I think like for me, like in 1998, 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.010 that was kind of like the first, I've always been 0:09:20.030 --> 0:09:22.729 obsessed with music. Like as you guys know, like, I 0:09:22.770 --> 0:09:24.950 think in 1998, that was kind of like the first 0:09:25.010 --> 0:09:28.670 time where I think we had this infiltration of what 0:09:28.830 --> 0:09:32.510 really became like the generic like pop sound kind of. 0:09:32.550 --> 0:09:36.120 Like we were being inundated with like these white boy 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.080 bands that sounded like. 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:39.979 Us. Yeah. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.060 That sounded like us and we were eating it the 0:09:42.100 --> 0:09:43.300 fuck up. I know I was. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:44.420 Yeah, same. 0:09:44.660 --> 0:09:46.500 And I was always picking the one in the group 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.360 that sounded the blackest to me. 0:09:48.380 --> 0:09:48.900 Yeah. 0:09:48.980 --> 0:09:51.040 Not the one that acted the blackest, actually. 0:09:51.070 --> 0:09:51.730 Right, there's a difference. 0:09:51.750 --> 0:09:53.910 Because, you know, with Backstreet Boys, it was like Howie 0:09:53.929 --> 0:09:56.170 was supposed to be the wigger, but it wasn't giving. 0:09:56.290 --> 0:09:57.310 It wasn't hitting. 0:09:57.390 --> 0:09:58.069 It wasn't hitting. 0:09:58.130 --> 0:09:59.410 It was like, get Howie the fuck. 0:09:59.290 --> 0:09:59.650 Out of here. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:01.819 But the one who sang the Blackest. 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:04.059 With her corny ass. Yes. With them corny ass beanies. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:05.680 With them big ass hoops and all that. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:06.480 Get out of here. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.650 I didn't like it. But the one who sang the 0:10:08.670 --> 0:10:11.410 Blackest was Brian, in my opinion. So Brian was my man. 0:10:11.470 --> 0:10:13.210 Brian Latrell. Brian Latrell. 0:10:14.650 --> 0:10:16.750 And I was an NSYNC girlie. 0:10:16.910 --> 0:10:18.670 I was going to ask which one. Yeah, I was 0:10:18.690 --> 0:10:20.490 going to say, which political party did you belong to? 0:10:20.809 --> 0:10:23.810 So I was definitely an NSYNC girlie just because I 0:10:23.870 --> 0:10:27.730 felt like their music leaned more into the R & B. 0:10:27.130 --> 0:10:29.110 Sound of it all. Yes, I agree. 0:10:29.490 --> 0:10:33.490 And also, like, they was fucking with, like, black producers 0:10:33.590 --> 0:10:35.510 on their second album. You know what I'm saying? Like, 0:10:35.530 --> 0:10:37.140 they tapped a lot of the girls that I was 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.140 already familiar with. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.320 You saw them in more pictures with, like, Destiny's Child 0:10:40.580 --> 0:10:41.220 than anybody else. 0:10:41.300 --> 0:10:44.540 And we're keeping it real. Backstreet also tapped into black producers, 0:10:44.860 --> 0:10:46.580 but it was, like, full force. It was, like, the 0:10:46.820 --> 0:10:49.800 older niggas. And then NSYNC was getting with. 0:10:49.860 --> 0:10:52.170 Like, the new shit. Shakespeare, the Rodney's. 0:10:52.270 --> 0:10:53.750 Yeah, the new shit. 0:10:54.090 --> 0:10:56.730 So they were more in line with, like, the girls 0:10:56.770 --> 0:10:58.569 that I was fucking with, like, the Brandys. 0:10:58.610 --> 0:11:02.520 But if there is no Backstreet, There is no NSYNC. 0:11:02.820 --> 0:11:04.199 That's true. That's true. 0:11:04.740 --> 0:11:06.700 You had to have Backstreet singing in the rain on 0:11:06.740 --> 0:11:07.800 a joint first. 0:11:07.940 --> 0:11:08.600 No, you did. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.819 To even get over there. So it's like evolution. I 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.960 look at it like Wanda Sykes and me. It's like, 0:11:13.980 --> 0:11:16.200 you can look at Wanda and go, oh, well, Wanda 0:11:16.220 --> 0:11:17.780 wasn't giving dykes. She wasn't doing this. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:18.470 Yeah, she was straight. 0:11:18.490 --> 0:11:19.920 We needed Wanda. 0:11:19.610 --> 0:11:21.670 And them shoulder pads, giving what she was giving. 0:11:21.690 --> 0:11:23.610 There was straight Wanda before gay Wanda. 0:11:23.630 --> 0:11:25.530 For Sam to pop out and just go like, what up? 0:11:25.550 --> 0:11:29.050 Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? For sure. 0:11:29.150 --> 0:11:42.270 Yeah. Here's a question. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.770 So you said you mentioned Britney. Is she your pop girlie? 0:11:46.990 --> 0:11:49.429 Or it's like, who's your top? Who's like the girl 0:11:49.470 --> 0:11:51.530 that like really broke the seal for you with like 0:11:51.550 --> 0:11:53.730 pop music? Because when we talk about black, I don't 0:11:53.750 --> 0:11:57.050 think we talk enough about black people's relationship to pop. 0:11:57.250 --> 0:11:59.410 Yeah. Of course we love R & B. Of course 0:11:59.429 --> 0:12:00.010 we love hip hop. 0:12:00.290 --> 0:12:00.469 Yeah. 0:12:00.490 --> 0:12:01.990 But I love pop girls. 0:12:02.130 --> 0:12:02.429 Yeah. 0:12:02.550 --> 0:12:04.600 In a way that kind of shocks some people. They're like, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:05.800 I thought you, no, no, no. It's not all hip 0:12:05.820 --> 0:12:06.439 hop over here. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.540 I feel like, and this is whatever, you can drag 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:10.180 me in the street. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.300 Uh-uh. 0:12:10.660 --> 0:12:11.760 People, I don't give a shit. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:12.160 Uh-uh. 0:12:12.650 --> 0:12:13.979 I don't feel like you're a real gay man if 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:14.980 you don't like the pop girlies. 0:12:15.030 --> 0:12:16.020 Hey, no argument. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.020 You have to have some of that in you. 0:12:18.179 --> 0:12:18.500 Yeah. 0:12:18.700 --> 0:12:18.880 Yeah. 0:12:18.940 --> 0:12:19.939 Because they raised you. 0:12:20.100 --> 0:12:21.840 Yeah, they did. 0:12:21.860 --> 0:12:25.960 So for me, like I was I was already into 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.120 like Celine when I was younger. 0:12:29.540 --> 0:12:30.840 I loved me some Celine. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.270 Like she just something about her was just gave me. 0:12:34.590 --> 0:12:35.310 She was very. 0:12:35.210 --> 0:12:35.930 Always hated her. 0:12:36.620 --> 0:12:38.860 Really? Always hated her. What was the beef? 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.280 Sam, she was always so cunt. 0:12:41.540 --> 0:12:44.309 She gave me, first of all, she just gave me 0:12:44.390 --> 0:12:46.740 principal energy. I just didn't like it. 0:12:46.750 --> 0:12:47.910 That's the Boston coming out of her. 0:12:47.929 --> 0:12:50.550 Yeah, I was just like, I don't, something about this is. 0:12:50.429 --> 0:12:52.390 Just too rigid. It's triggering for her. 0:12:52.570 --> 0:12:53.989 It's too strict for me. 0:12:53.990 --> 0:12:54.970 Okay, I can see that, though. 0:12:54.990 --> 0:12:56.250 It was too strict for me. But have you ever 0:12:56.270 --> 0:12:57.969 seen her on stage with a black girl? 0:12:58.010 --> 0:12:59.530 With Aretha? She cuts up. 0:12:59.530 --> 0:12:59.989 She cuts up. 0:13:00.290 --> 0:13:02.410 You know, people were upset about her for that, though. 0:13:02.429 --> 0:13:04.190 They were like, you don't go toe-to-toe with Aretha, but 0:13:04.410 --> 0:13:06.980 I viewed that as, like, Aretha Franklin giving her the space. 0:13:07.179 --> 0:13:07.900 Yeah. 0:13:07.940 --> 0:13:09.179 I think Aretha was like, if no other bitch is 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:10.280 gonna come up here, I'm gonna just do it. Can't 0:13:10.300 --> 0:13:10.820 deny the voice. 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:11.540 Can't deny the voice. 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:12.720 Can't deny the voice. 0:13:12.740 --> 0:13:14.479 But you just didn't see it. You didn't see it. 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:15.280 I just was just like, no. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.079 She was giving Sam, come to my office. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.420 Yes, and I was like, I don't want this. 0:13:19.300 --> 0:13:19.570 On my screen. 0:13:19.590 --> 0:13:21.530 No, no, no, okay. I can feel that. I can 0:13:21.550 --> 0:13:22.270 feel that. 0:13:22.309 --> 0:13:23.070 Yeah, she had your fire. 0:13:23.130 --> 0:13:25.270 I'm also a bad kid. 0:13:25.410 --> 0:13:25.589 Yeah. 0:13:25.650 --> 0:13:27.010 I got in trouble a lot, so. 0:13:27.030 --> 0:13:29.050 You give me that, too. Ha, ha, ha, ha. 0:13:29.450 --> 0:13:31.650 I was always in trouble. Always in trouble. So it's 0:13:31.750 --> 0:13:32.929 just probably my trauma. 0:13:32.970 --> 0:13:33.610 Sorry, Celine. 0:13:33.690 --> 0:13:35.620 It's me. She understands. She listens. 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.959 But Britney was kind of the one that. 0:13:40.780 --> 0:13:43.900 So, Britney is Janet's daughter. Yes. I don't care what 0:13:43.940 --> 0:13:44.520 nobody says. 0:13:44.540 --> 0:13:46.319 Absolutely. She would even agree with this. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:47.520 I don't care what nobody says. Yeah. 0:13:47.980 --> 0:13:51.700 Absolutely. She did. Janet was the blueprint. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:52.210 Yeah. 0:13:52.250 --> 0:13:52.470 Yeah. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:52.809 So.... 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.580 And my sister, I have an older sister, was obsessed 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:57.620 with Janet growing up. 0:13:57.660 --> 0:13:58.760 My mom was obsessed with Janet. 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.450 Obsessed with Janet by proxy. And so when I saw Britney, 0:14:02.470 --> 0:14:06.110 I'm like, oh, bitch, this is Janet. She's trying to 0:14:06.150 --> 0:14:07.110 give Janet. 0:14:07.270 --> 0:14:09.950 You know? So I was a Britney girl, but then 0:14:09.970 --> 0:14:12.569 when Christina came, I was like, wait a minute. Hold on. 0:14:13.230 --> 0:14:13.710 Hold up. 0:14:14.330 --> 0:14:16.510 The Puerto Rican princess is kind of turning it. Like, 0:14:16.580 --> 0:14:17.580 what's happening here? 0:14:17.620 --> 0:14:22.010 Christina came and it was like, a real bitch has arrived. 0:14:22.270 --> 0:14:22.830 Yeah. 0:14:23.210 --> 0:14:24.770 It really did feel like that. It felt like, I 0:14:24.790 --> 0:14:27.680 love Britney, but it felt like Britney was like the 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.240 package they were pushing on us. And then Christina came 0:14:30.300 --> 0:14:30.520 and it. 0:14:30.500 --> 0:14:32.720 Was like, and Christina said, you got to rub me 0:14:32.740 --> 0:14:35.620 the right way. And I was living for that. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:36.860 A real bitch showed up. 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:39.500 You know, did you, did you, I just thought about 0:14:39.540 --> 0:14:42.500 this because this exists in the same timeframe. Do you remember, 0:14:42.540 --> 0:14:45.590 did you watch the real world, the real world rules? 0:14:45.610 --> 0:14:47.350 Do you remember Katie versus Veronica? 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.979 Yes. That was Brittany versus Christina. It was. 0:14:52.140 --> 0:14:52.340 It was. 0:14:52.380 --> 0:14:54.180 Nancy Kerrigan versus Tanya. 0:14:54.220 --> 0:14:59.920 Nasty white women fighting with each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 0:15:00.130 --> 0:15:01.050 It was exactly that. 0:15:01.150 --> 0:15:05.150 It was exactly that. But also, like, I saw the relationship. 0:15:05.570 --> 0:15:08.770 I think so early on, I saw the relationship between 0:15:08.870 --> 0:15:11.530 those girls and the black girls that I love, too. 0:15:11.580 --> 0:15:13.340 Yeah, yeah. 0:15:13.860 --> 0:15:16.080 And kind of like as I got older and started 0:15:16.140 --> 0:15:21.640 being like a somebody that critiqued music, I. 0:15:21.580 --> 0:15:25.300 Started to kind of get upset a little bit. What 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.090 was the reason? Why do we always got to throw 0:15:29.130 --> 0:15:31.230 some blonde hair on some shit? 0:15:31.410 --> 0:15:32.170 Oh, man, yeah. 0:15:32.190 --> 0:15:34.510 For people to consume it and receive it. 0:15:34.650 --> 0:15:36.120 So what did you think of Pink when she came out? 0:15:36.130 --> 0:15:37.830 Because we didn't know she was white for a second. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.070 Pink really trick us. And I love pink. 0:15:43.510 --> 0:15:46.670 Let me tell y'all a story. The place where I 0:15:46.730 --> 0:15:52.110 got my lock started in the West End, pink, Alicia 0:15:52.150 --> 0:15:55.910 Moore used to get her hair braided in that same shop. 0:15:57.510 --> 0:15:59.690 And this was before she was pink, when she was 0:15:59.770 --> 0:16:00.290 just Alicia Moore. 0:16:00.310 --> 0:16:01.710 Before there you go. 0:16:01.730 --> 0:16:02.210 Yeah. 0:16:02.290 --> 0:16:04.270 She used to get her hair braided at that shop 0:16:04.470 --> 0:16:06.960 and used to be outside smoking cigarettes and used to 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:08.160 be singing down. 0:16:08.220 --> 0:16:11.340 And now she's launching herself in arenas. I was about to. 0:16:11.180 --> 0:16:12.380 Say, that's really like. 0:16:12.500 --> 0:16:13.180 What a trajectory. 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:16.160 Pink always gave, but I really been there, though. 0:16:16.180 --> 0:16:16.340 Mm-hmm. 0:16:17.220 --> 0:16:17.980 She always gave that. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.150 But also, like, Pink also, I'ma be honest, I don't 0:16:21.170 --> 0:16:22.530 believe Rockstar Pink. 0:16:22.710 --> 0:16:24.030 I think she's a nigga for real. 0:16:24.190 --> 0:16:27.690 Yeah, yeah. At heart, I think she's a baddie. 0:16:27.850 --> 0:16:32.450 Like, I believe crazy, racist, hillbilly Kid Rock. 0:16:33.010 --> 0:16:33.680 I believe it. 0:16:33.970 --> 0:16:35.230 Absolutely. As a nigga from Michigan. 0:16:35.250 --> 0:16:37.050 You're telling the truth. As a nigga from. 0:16:36.850 --> 0:16:38.530 Michigan, that is exactly who you are. 0:16:38.550 --> 0:16:39.960 When Pink made that rock star transition, I was like, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.320 someone's forcing this on her. Like, someone forced the brand 0:16:42.340 --> 0:16:43.140 in that damn bikini. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:43.620 You know what I mean? 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.200 I was just like, yeah. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:46.500 The same person. 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:48.120 Something about this don't feel. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.280 And I think it's because I had that experience with her, 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:53.400 watching her get her hair braided. 0:16:53.580 --> 0:16:56.800 I'm like, oh, girl, this is... You got her. Yeah. 0:16:56.830 --> 0:16:58.270 This is, you know. Yeah. 0:16:58.290 --> 0:16:58.410 So. 0:17:01.570 --> 0:17:04.450 For the Britney of it all, how do you feel 0:17:04.490 --> 0:17:05.470 about Britney of today? 0:17:05.490 --> 0:17:06.470 I don't. 0:17:06.630 --> 0:17:07.070 You don't? 0:17:07.690 --> 0:17:10.570 I actually have this strange theory that that's not actually Britney. Oh, 0:17:10.590 --> 0:17:13.300 you think it's AI? Not AI. 0:17:13.380 --> 0:17:17.020 I think it's like a strange doppelganger that they hired. 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:18.300 Then what do you think the real Britney is? 0:17:18.500 --> 0:17:20.280 I think she lives somewhere on a farm. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:21.780 I honestly love this Britney story. 0:17:24.770 --> 0:17:25.700 Say I'm not. 0:17:25.740 --> 0:17:26.470 Do tell. 0:17:26.510 --> 0:17:27.930 Say more. Elaborate, please. 0:17:28.050 --> 0:17:29.470 I like crazy in the house Britney. 0:17:29.490 --> 0:17:29.889 Elaborate, please. 0:17:29.910 --> 0:17:31.369 You know why I like it? Because she keeps it 0:17:31.390 --> 0:17:33.490 in the house. She's not outside. 0:17:33.570 --> 0:17:36.030 But she's not really because we see it. 0:17:36.050 --> 0:17:37.430 It's not really keeping it in the house if we 0:17:37.450 --> 0:17:37.830 see it online. 0:17:37.970 --> 0:17:39.890 And she's been outside, too. She's been outside. 0:17:39.970 --> 0:17:42.170 Mostly when I see it, she's in the house doing 0:17:42.190 --> 0:17:44.030 some weird dance in her drawers. 0:17:44.050 --> 0:17:46.990 We owe her father an apology. Smoking a cigarette. 0:17:47.010 --> 0:17:48.330 Doing something weird in the pool. 0:17:48.450 --> 0:17:50.310 Lock her up. Back and back conservative shit. 0:17:50.369 --> 0:17:51.070 Lock her up. 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:51.879 No. 0:17:52.150 --> 0:17:53.300 We owe that man an apology. 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:54.179 That free Britney. 0:17:54.220 --> 0:17:55.240 You should be allowed. 0:17:55.420 --> 0:17:58.000 Let me tell you something. I watched that documentary. 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.610 You should be allowed to be crazy with your money 0:17:59.830 --> 0:18:00.770 and mind your business. 0:18:00.950 --> 0:18:01.250 Girl. 0:18:01.290 --> 0:18:02.369 Britney don't be hurting people. 0:18:02.390 --> 0:18:04.030 She be on Instagram with her pussy out. 0:18:04.210 --> 0:18:06.629 She just got a DUI somewhere. She just got a DUI. 0:18:06.690 --> 0:18:07.260 Yeah. 0:18:07.410 --> 0:18:08.090 Lock her up. 0:18:08.140 --> 0:18:09.180 Did the person die? 0:18:10.140 --> 0:18:11.420 No, but they could have. 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.500 She could have killed herself. Did she hit anybody? 0:18:13.780 --> 0:18:14.220 Sam. 0:18:14.540 --> 0:18:16.780 Okay, so just let Brittany be. 0:18:16.980 --> 0:18:18.750 Take away her keys. I thought she was about to 0:18:18.830 --> 0:18:20.270 say Samantha. 0:18:20.369 --> 0:18:22.869 Take away her car keys. Take away her car keys. 0:18:22.910 --> 0:18:23.750 We owe that man. 0:18:23.790 --> 0:18:26.210 We owe her father the deepest, sincerest apology. 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:26.880 I agree. 0:18:26.900 --> 0:18:28.520 Because when I saw that documentary. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.139 I was like, as soon as I saw pink and 0:18:31.190 --> 0:18:35.070 blue hair with protest signs outside, I was like, we're wrong. 0:18:35.109 --> 0:18:36.630 They're wrong. This is actually wrong. 0:18:36.650 --> 0:18:40.330 Yeah, they them needs to go back up. Leave that alone. 0:18:40.430 --> 0:18:42.290 Leave that family alone and lock her up. 0:18:42.410 --> 0:18:43.070 I like it. 0:18:43.150 --> 0:18:44.750 Brittany, I'm with you. Keep going. 0:18:44.869 --> 0:18:45.790 See, that's the problem. 0:18:45.810 --> 0:18:47.290 Keep going, girl. 0:18:47.390 --> 0:18:49.990 It's people like you. That's why I'm glad that Brittany's 0:18:50.030 --> 0:18:50.889 comments are turned off. 0:18:50.910 --> 0:18:51.710 Turned them off. 0:18:51.730 --> 0:18:52.830 She does not need. 0:18:52.690 --> 0:18:53.830 Any of the reinforcement. 0:18:53.850 --> 0:18:56.030 I'll be on the everyday clap. 0:18:56.170 --> 0:18:59.970 I like that. Mama be up there with knives. I'm like, Girl. 0:18:59.990 --> 0:19:02.630 I try not to think about Britney in that way 0:19:02.670 --> 0:19:07.550 because I don't want her... Well, she's... I mean, tarnished 0:19:07.590 --> 0:19:09.550 legacies are a whole other conversation. Yeah. 0:19:09.630 --> 0:19:11.090 I was going to say that's how I feel about 0:19:11.109 --> 0:19:11.649 Bill Cosby. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.410 Bill Cosby and Britney Spears in the same... Yeah. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:19.280 In the same conversation. But wait, you made a point too, Bryna. 0:19:19.300 --> 0:19:20.940 You said that like, oh, we got to slap a 0:19:20.980 --> 0:19:23.880 blonde wig on a woman, you know, these white girls 0:19:23.940 --> 0:19:25.000 for it to be consumed. 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:25.780 And boys. 0:19:25.900 --> 0:19:26.600 Well, yes. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:31.090 So now I'll ask, what, like, do you, are you 0:19:31.130 --> 0:19:33.140 happy now to see so many black girls in pop 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:35.880 right now? But they're not, how do you navigate? 0:19:36.140 --> 0:19:37.260 Are there a lot of black girls in pop? 0:19:37.300 --> 0:19:39.340 There's some, but how do you evaluate what's going on 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:41.139 with black girls in pop now? 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.610 I still think that black girls in pop are being 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.310 used for their songs. It's lacking. Yeah, it's lacking. 0:19:46.390 --> 0:19:51.260 Specifically, and it's not with just white people anymore. It's 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:52.340 with K-pop. 0:19:52.460 --> 0:19:53.200 Yeah, it's with K-pop. 0:19:54.740 --> 0:19:58.510 Which is scary because Korean niggas is like robots. 0:19:59.390 --> 0:20:01.189 They go in. They go the fuck in. 0:20:01.210 --> 0:20:02.670 They pump that shit out. 0:20:03.050 --> 0:20:05.710 They'll figure out how to do something where they skin 0:20:05.730 --> 0:20:07.130 could turn color or something. 0:20:07.570 --> 0:20:09.010 They'll really take over this whole thing. 0:20:09.030 --> 0:20:12.680 They're taking it over. Are you a fan? No. 0:20:13.900 --> 0:20:17.139 I'm a fan of the money that K-pop puts in 0:20:17.180 --> 0:20:20.660 Black people's pockets because a lot of the Black creatives 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.639 that I know that have been writing songs and producing 0:20:25.100 --> 0:20:27.639 records for a long time, they can go over there. 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:28.200 And make a bag. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:28.740 Make a bag. 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:34.420 I don't, this is what I, my thing, there's a 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.979 lot of things that I have with it. One thing is, 0:20:37.220 --> 0:20:38.600 I think I feel a little bit like you feel. 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:42.070 It's like, but you have to make it not Black. 0:20:42.510 --> 0:20:46.270 for people to gravitate towards it. And like, that just hurts. Yeah. 0:20:46.290 --> 0:20:46.690 You know? 0:20:46.890 --> 0:20:47.530 It sucks. 0:20:47.770 --> 0:20:49.530 I don't necessarily blame anybody. 0:20:49.790 --> 0:20:49.850 No. 0:20:49.869 --> 0:20:51.030 It really is just culture. 0:20:51.150 --> 0:20:51.450 Yeah. 0:20:51.550 --> 0:20:53.990 But it just like, as a black person watching it, 0:20:53.990 --> 0:20:55.619 you're like, come on. 0:20:55.650 --> 0:20:56.450 For real? Yeah. 0:20:56.820 --> 0:20:59.700 Then, I'm not going to hold you. I don't like 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.760 all the weird shit on them bitches' heads at the concerts. 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:03.880 All them lights and all that. All them lights and 0:21:04.260 --> 0:21:05.020 all that. 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.040 Century Overload, for sure. It is. 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:07.600 Century Overload. 0:21:07.619 --> 0:21:09.420 We don't need all of that. No, we don't need 0:21:09.460 --> 0:21:09.980 all of that. 0:21:10.140 --> 0:21:13.410 All them lights and all that. Third, And I know 0:21:13.430 --> 0:21:15.340 I'm going to get yelled at, and if I'm ignorant 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.109 completely to this, I'll apologize. But from what I've learned, 0:21:18.140 --> 0:21:20.389 it's like, they force a lot of these kids to 0:21:20.430 --> 0:21:21.810 do this and put them in like. 0:21:21.830 --> 0:21:24.229 The turnover around time is so quick with them. Right, 0:21:24.310 --> 0:21:26.550 and they're like, you got to be in these like... 0:21:26.369 --> 0:21:27.250 And there's a. 0:21:27.210 --> 0:21:30.130 High suicide rate. Because they have to go to the military. 0:21:30.150 --> 0:21:31.460 So there's a gap when they have to go to 0:21:31.500 --> 0:21:33.820 do their active duty. So there's a gap so they 0:21:33.859 --> 0:21:34.880 got to pump out another group. 0:21:34.900 --> 0:21:36.679 But also the whole thing is like a camp. 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:37.859 It is. 0:21:37.980 --> 0:21:40.980 It's like... Yeah. It doesn't feel like they're free and 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:41.740 having fun. 0:21:41.780 --> 0:21:45.110 Which is parallel to the boy group thing that how they, 0:21:45.310 --> 0:21:45.670 you know. 0:21:45.710 --> 0:21:45.830 Yeah. 0:21:46.630 --> 0:21:48.650 Down in Orlando, I don't know what they was doing 0:21:48.690 --> 0:21:50.149 to their little boys, but they was fine at their 0:21:50.190 --> 0:21:51.210 mall talent show. 0:21:51.230 --> 0:21:54.469 But because they're Korean and I think the culture is 0:21:54.510 --> 0:21:57.929 so rigid, it's like it doesn't look like they're having fun. 0:21:58.230 --> 0:22:00.389 It's like Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, you would see them in 0:22:00.430 --> 0:22:01.209 their downtime. 0:22:01.390 --> 0:22:01.800 Having a good time. 0:22:01.820 --> 0:22:03.120 Having a good time. Messing with the girlies. 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.400 And you got to know their personalities. These are like 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.760 manufactured personalities. It feels like these are manufactured answers. This 0:22:09.780 --> 0:22:11.600 feels like these are manufactured good times. 0:22:11.900 --> 0:22:13.100 If you even get to hear them talk. 0:22:13.780 --> 0:22:15.420 If you get to hear them speak so it's just 0:22:15.510 --> 0:22:19.290 kind of like and I was there when the most 0:22:19.350 --> 0:22:21.109 famous one what you call it what's the name of 0:22:21.130 --> 0:22:24.420 that group BTS when they came to SNL I was 0:22:24.460 --> 0:22:28.439 there you were there it felt very handled Oh. It 0:22:28.460 --> 0:22:30.859 felt very handled. Really? And I was just like, I 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:32.600 don't know. This is weird. 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.840 Like when the door closed in the restaurant and everyone 0:22:34.859 --> 0:22:36.040 was like getting their. 0:22:35.900 --> 0:22:37.220 Ass beat and shit. This is weird. 0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:38.260 It was weird. 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:40.680 Nah, if I see you fuck up themselves again, you'll 0:22:40.700 --> 0:22:42.540 be frying fish on Friday. 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:43.260 Like, don't play with me. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:45.000 It felt real weird. Yeah. 0:22:45.100 --> 0:22:45.440 You know? 0:22:45.460 --> 0:22:48.700 And I think it's something to be said too about 0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:54.140 just like, just the way that it, just the turnover times. 0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.960 And like you said, that's a very like distinct thing. Like, 0:22:57.359 --> 0:22:59.700 with the Backstreet Boys, you were able to, and maybe 0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.520 it's because I'm not so ingrained in that culture, but, like, 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:04.480 you were able to, like, pick a favorite. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.479 You could see behind-the-scenes videos. You saw those kind of things. 0:23:07.500 --> 0:23:09.020 Yeah, I can't pick out any of these boys. 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:10.340 Yeah, where you got pieces of. 0:23:10.330 --> 0:23:12.770 Their personality, but with these groups, because there's such a 0:23:13.290 --> 0:23:16.300 high turnover rate, it's like, Nigga, we don't even know 0:23:16.340 --> 0:23:17.080 none of y'all names. 0:23:17.140 --> 0:23:17.460 Yeah. 0:23:17.540 --> 0:23:21.119 But they do the same, the same formula. Like, in 0:23:21.140 --> 0:23:22.540 the Backstreet Boys, I think it was, I mean, in 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:24.270 the BTS, I think it was June was like the 0:23:24.660 --> 0:23:25.119 Wigga one. 0:23:25.220 --> 0:23:26.830 And see, you even know the name. I couldn't even 0:23:26.850 --> 0:23:27.419 tell you the name. 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:28.470 They had like a Wigga boy. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.690 Meanwhile, I know every name, I know every name of B2K. 0:23:31.750 --> 0:23:32.450 Yeah. 0:23:32.490 --> 0:23:34.590 They had like a Wigga boy. But the kids who 0:23:34.609 --> 0:23:37.850 like them know. I don't know because I'm not even invested. 0:23:37.910 --> 0:23:39.389 It's hard to know because there's like 11 of them. 0:23:39.430 --> 0:23:40.910 The kids who like them know. 0:23:41.310 --> 0:23:41.830 You know what I mean? 0:23:41.850 --> 0:23:43.790 They're like, they know what it is. 0:23:44.810 --> 0:23:47.149 How many? Okay, what's the proper number for a boy band? Five. 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:03.900 Or any type of group. 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:04.540 Four or five. 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:05.399 Four or five. 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:10.050 I've had a girl group before, and it's very expensive. 0:24:10.270 --> 0:24:10.510 I think. 0:24:10.890 --> 0:24:11.530 It has to be. 0:24:11.550 --> 0:24:12.650 There's so much. Yeah. 0:24:12.890 --> 0:24:16.050 So, I mean, like, boys are easier when it comes 0:24:16.070 --> 0:24:19.020 to just, like, the overall upkeep of, like, styling and 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.340 make sure everybody's grooming is correct and all of that 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:21.920 shit like that. 0:24:22.260 --> 0:24:23.340 But girls.... 0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.879 Boys, you can do five at the maximum. Girls, I'm 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:29.260 not fucking with more than three. 0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:29.800 Three. 0:24:29.820 --> 0:24:31.000 Oh, wow. 0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:33.609 I mean, three, the classic number for the number they 0:24:33.630 --> 0:24:35.290 landed on for Destiny's Child, certainly. 3LW. 0:24:35.450 --> 0:24:38.170 They were like, oh, yeah, we're right here. 3LW. 0:24:38.290 --> 0:24:43.170 Three girls is still pushing it. Really? It's so young. 0:24:43.190 --> 0:24:44.300 So do you think that has something to do with 0:24:44.410 --> 0:24:46.820 how Beyonce came upon Chloe and Halle? They were like, 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:48.440 I'm going to get two girls and they got to 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:48.959 be related. 0:24:49.060 --> 0:24:50.320 How many cheetah girls were there? 0:24:50.900 --> 0:24:53.780 There were four to start. 0:24:53.940 --> 0:24:55.900 And did you see that Raven announced that Cheetah Girls 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.480 is back? Without Keely. 0:24:59.240 --> 0:24:59.879 I'm not mad at her. 0:25:01.270 --> 0:25:06.290 You can rewrite her out. I mean, girl. You said 0:25:06.310 --> 0:25:07.030 we're not going to miss her. 0:25:07.950 --> 0:25:10.189 Promises, promises. No, we don't need that. 0:25:10.210 --> 0:25:10.909 I'm going to miss it. 0:25:11.550 --> 0:25:12.550 You kind of need that mess. 0:25:12.650 --> 0:25:13.770 I miss it. 0:25:13.830 --> 0:25:16.040 I agree with that. You do kind of need the 0:25:16.100 --> 0:25:17.340 messy one to come back. 0:25:17.500 --> 0:25:17.840 I do. 0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.530 I never really saw it for Keely. Really? A lot 0:25:20.570 --> 0:25:22.790 of people. She just kind of just gave me like 0:25:22.869 --> 0:25:23.750 a very.... 0:25:25.030 --> 0:25:27.350 I mean, the KFC to the face really, like, talk 0:25:27.369 --> 0:25:28.210 about Tarnished Legacies. 0:25:28.230 --> 0:25:31.430 Very New Jersey. Yeah. 0:25:31.470 --> 0:25:32.830 A lot of this is shady. 0:25:33.010 --> 0:25:34.790 It's very shady. It's very shady. 0:25:34.810 --> 0:25:37.859 Like, girl, mm-mm. I just am not really seeing it. 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:42.320 She doesn't really align with the Disney brand, either. Oh, wow. 0:25:42.340 --> 0:25:44.399 You know? You were in the rooms back then, hun. 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:45.439 You were in those rooms back then. 0:25:45.460 --> 0:25:48.020 Yeah, she doesn't really align with that. I could see 0:25:48.060 --> 0:25:50.609 why they were kind of like, mm. Do we need killing? 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.969 Brian, do you think every boy brand girl group is 0:25:54.050 --> 0:25:56.950 built with the intention on making one person a solo star? 0:25:57.550 --> 0:26:00.290 I don't think to start off it is. I think 0:26:00.369 --> 0:26:05.900 to start off, everything is very kumbaya. Everybody's like, you know, 0:26:06.020 --> 0:26:09.500 for the purpose. But I think the demise of a 0:26:09.540 --> 0:26:14.390 lot of girl groups, specifically girl bands, is that, you know, 0:26:15.070 --> 0:26:18.330 one person either just starts smelling themselves too much or 0:26:18.350 --> 0:26:21.470 they have somebody in their ear telling them like, hey. 0:26:21.490 --> 0:26:22.570 Look, girl, you need to. 0:26:22.990 --> 0:26:23.190 What? 0:26:24.190 --> 0:26:24.630 I feel like. 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.070 Backstreet, did anyone try to go solo? 0:26:28.869 --> 0:26:32.510 If anybody, I would assume like a Nick or Joey. 0:26:32.670 --> 0:26:35.290 I think Nick tried to have a solo career. 0:26:35.310 --> 0:26:35.480 He did. 0:26:35.510 --> 0:26:36.210 He did try. 0:26:36.310 --> 0:26:38.010 It was Nick who tried to go solo. 0:26:38.070 --> 0:26:38.429 Yeah. 0:26:38.750 --> 0:26:40.889 But I don't think that was like during the band. 0:26:40.950 --> 0:26:43.430 I think it was after the fact. It was after 0:26:43.450 --> 0:26:43.750 the fact. 0:26:43.770 --> 0:26:45.630 And it was no push from any one of them 0:26:45.690 --> 0:26:47.909 to like kind of go do their own thing. NSYNC, 0:26:47.930 --> 0:26:49.109 you knew Justin was going to be there. 0:26:49.130 --> 0:26:50.710 You knew Justin was going to be there. In the 0:26:50.730 --> 0:26:51.859 same way that you knew Beyonce. 0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:52.719 Was going to be there. 0:26:52.900 --> 0:26:54.939 The gone video was the goodbye. The gone video was 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.280 the goodbye. He was gone. I'm gone. I saw that video. 0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.340 I said, we will not see Justin with them boys 0:26:59.619 --> 0:27:00.280 ever again. 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:02.030 And I was glad. 0:27:02.670 --> 0:27:04.450 I was a Justin Gurley since Mickey Mouse Club. That's 0:27:04.490 --> 0:27:06.350 my man. So I was happy to see him go. 0:27:06.350 --> 0:27:06.949 Oh, that's your man. 0:27:06.970 --> 0:27:07.390 I love Justin. 0:27:07.450 --> 0:27:08.510 Your man, your man, your man. 0:27:08.570 --> 0:27:09.730 I love Justin. 0:27:09.770 --> 0:27:11.490 Mickey Mouse Club, when he was doing the bogo and shit. 0:27:11.510 --> 0:27:12.880 So how do you feel about him now? 0:27:13.340 --> 0:27:15.340 Yeah, what's your take on Justin of today? 0:27:15.940 --> 0:27:16.540 He's fine. 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:17.160 Oh, really? 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:17.800 Is he? 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:18.620 Yeah, yeah. Mr. 0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.159 Beat Your Feet in the D.C., yeah. DUI Justin. 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:23.300 Listen. 0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.940 He had some recent DUIs. They're made for each other. 0:27:27.420 --> 0:27:30.500 They're made for each other. They should have never broken up. 0:27:30.500 --> 0:27:31.619 They should have never broken up. 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.240 Justin needed to be free. 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:36.859 Justin needed to be free. 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:37.640 He needed to get out there. 0:27:37.700 --> 0:27:41.710 Oh, he's free. I think he's been free for a 0:27:41.730 --> 0:27:43.710 long time. They found meth in his system. 0:27:44.070 --> 0:27:45.449 I love that for him. 0:27:45.510 --> 0:27:48.020 Do you, Sam? She loves messy whites. 0:27:48.190 --> 0:27:49.500 Okay. 0:27:49.540 --> 0:27:50.540 Now, I'm going to. 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.580 I love a person who likes to party. You know what? 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:53.060 Party. 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.020 Party. You said 365 Party Girl. 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:56.520 Do your part again. 0:27:56.540 --> 0:27:57.620 Are you a Charli XCX fan? 0:27:58.560 --> 0:27:59.220 Are you? 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.100 No. I think you would love Charli XCX. 0:28:01.180 --> 0:28:02.700 I think you would live. I think you would live 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:03.020 for Charli. 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:04.810 I don't think you're giving Charli XCX a chance. 0:28:04.940 --> 0:28:06.660 I should. She might live for Brat Charli. 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:07.890 She might live for Brat Charli. 0:28:08.030 --> 0:28:09.830 I'm going to have to listen to it today. Before 0:28:09.869 --> 0:28:12.350 or after that, I don't know. But Brat Charli. 0:28:12.369 --> 0:28:14.570 Brat Charli. Were you here for Brat Summer? Because I 0:28:14.750 --> 0:28:15.270 had a blast. 0:28:15.350 --> 0:28:16.070 It was a Brat Summer. 0:28:16.090 --> 0:28:21.770 Summer I still bump 360 365 come on like hello 0:28:21.790 --> 0:28:23.310 yeah yeah 666 with. 0:28:23.050 --> 0:28:24.409 The princess streak I. 0:28:24.369 --> 0:28:27.870 Was living for that because it was just like embracing 0:28:27.970 --> 0:28:31.130 all of just like the dirty funky, just like we 0:28:31.170 --> 0:28:33.370 in the club, smoking a cigarette. 0:28:33.470 --> 0:28:34.610 And Alex, let me tell you something. 0:28:34.630 --> 0:28:36.650 It was crazy. It was a crazy, sweaty time. 0:28:36.670 --> 0:28:36.949 I loved it. 0:28:36.970 --> 0:28:39.850 Let me tell you something. So you guys know I'm 0:28:39.870 --> 0:28:42.560 a vinyl collector. I went to my favorite vinyl store 0:28:42.580 --> 0:28:45.760 to buy Brat on vinyl. And I didn't know that 0:28:45.780 --> 0:28:49.900 they had signed copies from Charlie XCX at the record store. 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.200 So I go and I just, I'm there to buy Brat. 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:54.540 Right. 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.000 I pick up Brat and I'm like, oh shit, this 0:28:57.060 --> 0:28:58.640 is signed. It's the last one. 0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:01.580 Oh, so she came into the store and just like 0:29:01.620 --> 0:29:03.800 scribbled on a bunch of them and was like, I bounced. 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.440 Either that or they brought some to the show. Right, right, right. 0:29:06.460 --> 0:29:10.680 One of those. So I buy, I have the vinyl 0:29:10.740 --> 0:29:11.780 in my hand. 0:29:11.870 --> 0:29:14.050 And this little white twink comes up to me and 0:29:14.110 --> 0:29:17.330 he's like, oh my God, is that the sign Brad Vinyl? 0:29:17.350 --> 0:29:20.030 Because apparently they had posted it on Instagram and I just, 0:29:20.350 --> 0:29:20.770 I didn't know. 0:29:20.830 --> 0:29:21.590 You just stumbled in. 0:29:23.090 --> 0:29:25.330 And I was like, yeah. And he was like, oh 0:29:25.350 --> 0:29:27.370 my gosh, where'd you get it? And I pointed to 0:29:27.410 --> 0:29:28.710 the spot where I got it and I had the 0:29:28.750 --> 0:29:32.610 last one. And he just like stared, like he gave 0:29:32.650 --> 0:29:34.250 me the fucking death stare. 0:29:34.290 --> 0:29:35.990 Wow. And he was like. 0:29:36.490 --> 0:29:37.770 Like you were supposed to give it up? 0:29:37.810 --> 0:29:40.580 Like I was mine. Get your black... Get your black... Yeah, 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:42.120 like he had... Get your. 0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.580 Nigger pics off. 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.640 Yeah, he had more rights to it. Get your nigger 0:29:45.660 --> 0:29:48.700 pics off of my Charlie XCX. You don't understand it 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:50.340 like I do. Is this person white? 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:54.020 That's... I'm saying this Charlie XCX? Yes. 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.910 Oh, yeah. She's half white, half... She's white. 0:29:56.950 --> 0:29:58.340 She's white. 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.620 She's like a Southeast Asian sort of situation. 0:30:02.220 --> 0:30:04.960 She's like an Albanian. Something like that. 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:05.820 She's spiritually white. 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:07.400 She's spiritually culturally white. 0:30:07.460 --> 0:30:08.580 She's British. She's British. 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:10.920 So he was like, you don't understand. Like, I understand. 0:30:10.940 --> 0:30:13.050 Oh, baby, I thought that I was going to have 0:30:13.070 --> 0:30:15.170 to scrap. Not for nothing. Fair. Oh. 0:30:15.930 --> 0:30:19.650 Fair. As long as. 0:30:19.730 --> 0:30:21.250 Brian, she will turn on you in a heartbeat. I'm 0:30:21.270 --> 0:30:23.690 telling you, she would have jumped you with that white boy. 0:30:23.690 --> 0:30:24.280 No, I'm saying the same. 0:30:24.300 --> 0:30:25.520 She would have jumped you with that white boy. 0:30:25.540 --> 0:30:26.900 No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying it has 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:27.300 to be like. 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:27.970 Sam, I'm a pop pop. 0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.560 It has to be like, turn. 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.880 About his fair play. Like, if it's the last signed 0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.020 Brandy album, he got to give it up to a 0:30:34.060 --> 0:30:34.720 black person. 0:30:34.740 --> 0:30:39.080 Uh-oh. How do you feel about that? Buckle Bible. 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.300 I think that, yes. 0:30:42.460 --> 0:30:47.300 It's just the last Brandy vinyl signed. 0:30:47.580 --> 0:30:49.240 Yes, you do have to give it to me. 0:30:49.340 --> 0:30:53.890 But I'm also taking the Charlie XCX vinyl because reparation. 0:30:53.910 --> 0:30:55.490 I ain't mad at that. I ain't mad at that 0:30:55.550 --> 0:30:55.740 at all. 0:30:55.750 --> 0:30:56.810 I'm not mad at that double down. 0:30:58.610 --> 0:31:00.630 You got, you got, you turned, you turned 10. You 0:31:00.650 --> 0:31:03.080 did it. You did it. No, like give me, this 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:04.100 belongs to me. 0:31:04.140 --> 0:31:04.979 This belongs to me. 0:31:05.020 --> 0:31:07.620 Which was also the name of a Brandy song. It 0:31:07.860 --> 0:31:11.900 all belongs to me. Excuse me? 0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.080 I literally was, he was looking at me like, so 0:31:15.140 --> 0:31:16.020 you're not going to give it to me? 0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:18.650 I'm like, bitch, fuck off. 0:31:19.450 --> 0:31:22.330 So in the spirit of black pop, And us embracing 0:31:22.350 --> 0:31:28.190 Charli XCX, who was also referred to as a human ashtray. 0:31:28.790 --> 0:31:31.340 I would love to get your thoughts on Miss Girl, 0:31:31.940 --> 0:31:33.960 Azealia Banks. 0:31:33.980 --> 0:31:35.560 How did we get here? 0:31:35.620 --> 0:31:37.640 Because she's a black pop girl. 0:31:37.660 --> 0:31:39.330 And I really want to know what? 0:31:40.150 --> 0:31:41.730 The fact that you mentioned her is going to be 0:31:41.770 --> 0:31:43.550 a curse down upon us. Great. 0:31:43.590 --> 0:31:46.910 I would love to get Azalea Banks on. 0:31:46.970 --> 0:31:48.970 I don't know how, but she always knows what her 0:31:49.020 --> 0:31:49.460 name is. 0:31:49.460 --> 0:31:53.140 She always finds herself. I'm going to keep it a bug. Okay, 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:53.780 keep it smooth. 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.380 I am an Azalea Banks apologist. 0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:57.720 Dang. 0:31:58.160 --> 0:31:58.480 Dang. 0:31:59.010 --> 0:31:59.330 Same. 0:31:59.590 --> 0:32:02.540 She gets support from me. I understand two things can 0:32:02.580 --> 0:32:06.020 be true at once at the same time. She's batshit crazy. 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.560 She's absolutely out of her mind, but I adore her. 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:13.900 I'm not skipping it. Let me tell you something. 0:32:14.020 --> 0:32:17.800 I got an Azealia Banks story. She almost did pause. 0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:19.290 But then she couldn't do it because of COVID and 0:32:19.310 --> 0:32:19.750 then she was. 0:32:19.670 --> 0:32:21.810 Mad at us. Oh my God. 0:32:21.830 --> 0:32:22.709 This is why you nervous. 0:32:23.050 --> 0:32:24.720 I'm so nervous. 0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:26.920 But also, when I first moved to New York for SNL, 0:32:27.100 --> 0:32:28.540 I remember I lived in East Harlem in that little, 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:29.660 I don't know if you remember, I lived in that 0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.300 little ass apartment in East Harlem. My neighbor downstairs apparently 0:32:33.340 --> 0:32:35.490 was her manager. He was a mess of a, a mess, 0:32:35.590 --> 0:32:36.510 a mess of a white gay. 0:32:36.550 --> 0:32:36.910 Of course. 0:32:37.030 --> 0:32:37.690 A mess. 0:32:37.710 --> 0:32:38.330 That's her demographic. 0:32:38.350 --> 0:32:39.330 That's her demographic. 0:32:39.350 --> 0:32:40.610 Like one, one night. 0:32:40.650 --> 0:32:42.650 She loves and hates messy white gays. She loves and 0:32:42.690 --> 0:32:43.610 hates white gays. One day I. 0:32:43.570 --> 0:32:48.770 Came home and he was like, completely shit-faced, just on 0:32:48.810 --> 0:32:50.950 the stairs, crying and throwing up. And I just had 0:32:50.970 --> 0:32:51.750 to walk over him. 0:32:51.790 --> 0:32:52.350 Lord, what did she do? 0:32:52.390 --> 0:32:54.290 Just a mess of a dude. But he would always 0:32:54.330 --> 0:32:56.510 be like, yeah, we need to get you with Azalea. 0:32:56.550 --> 0:32:58.290 You know what I'm saying? He would kinky with y'all 0:32:58.470 --> 0:32:59.850 a little bit. And he'd be like, yeah, we need 0:32:59.870 --> 0:33:01.850 to get you with Azalea. So y'all had ordered some 0:33:01.870 --> 0:33:04.560 wallpaper that she was trying to go out and do 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.700 interior design out in the city. So she had ordered 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.120 some wallpaper and they delivered it. This nigga stole the wallpaper. 0:33:09.620 --> 0:33:12.220 from downstairs, put it on his walls in his house, 0:33:12.380 --> 0:33:13.800 and then invited us over, bitch. 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:14.360 And we was. 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.540 Is that my motherfucking wallpaper? 0:33:17.820 --> 0:33:20.200 And I can't imagine that the wallpaper was put on 0:33:20.220 --> 0:33:23.230 the walls neatly. The unadulterated gauze. I can't imagine that 0:33:23.250 --> 0:33:25.390 the wallpaper was put on neatly, too. It doesn't sound 0:33:25.410 --> 0:33:27.010 like it was put on properly. It feels like it 0:33:27.050 --> 0:33:28.210 was crumpled up in certain areas. 0:33:28.270 --> 0:33:29.590 It also was like, bitch, that. 0:33:29.610 --> 0:33:32.450 Is a gag, and then invited y'all over. Oh, she 0:33:32.490 --> 0:33:35.370 didn't give a fuck. Does Azalea know about this? 0:33:35.410 --> 0:33:36.890 It was also wallpaper. 0:33:36.970 --> 0:33:39.710 Like, For a business. It wasn't for. 0:33:39.910 --> 0:33:41.360 It wasn't home decor. 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.220 It wasn't home wallpaper. 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.260 Wow, he was doing bad. He was doing bad. It 0:33:45.300 --> 0:33:46.240 was wild. 0:33:46.380 --> 0:33:50.420 It was a wild little time when she entered my atmosphere. 0:33:50.980 --> 0:33:52.950 I truly just like.... 0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.400 Also, Azealia is very, for me, like when I moved 0:33:56.420 --> 0:33:59.380 to New York. So when 212 came out, I was 0:33:59.420 --> 0:34:02.040 like new to New York. Her music was banging. I 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:03.140 was like, who is this? 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.840 She was probably everywhere. She was everywhere. 0:34:05.900 --> 0:34:09.090 I also believe all her tea. When she says her shit, 0:34:09.110 --> 0:34:10.730 she doesn't spark me as a liar. When she be 0:34:10.770 --> 0:34:14.330 saying shit, I'm like, no, that's real. That happened. 0:34:14.469 --> 0:34:15.489 That happened. 0:34:15.890 --> 0:34:20.200 I got an off mic, but yes. I'm like, nah, 0:34:20.219 --> 0:34:21.620 that bitch ain't lying. 0:34:21.900 --> 0:34:23.739 I have an Azalea story, too, that I would like 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:27.200 to tell off mic. Oh, okay. Because we're not looking 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:32.950 for a fight. We're all so scared. Honestly, I think I. 0:34:32.930 --> 0:34:34.009 Would have a key with her. 0:34:34.170 --> 0:34:36.290 She would hate every word coming out of my mouth, 0:34:36.330 --> 0:34:37.710 but I would love the fact that she hates me. 0:34:37.969 --> 0:34:40.610 Let's just say I was at a party in L.A., 0:34:40.810 --> 0:34:42.850 Rich Hillfiger was there, and she was there. 0:34:42.870 --> 0:34:43.630 Okay. Okay. 0:34:44.450 --> 0:34:49.900 And we will leave it at that. Yes. Well, we 0:34:50.219 --> 0:34:51.620 are coming to the close of this episode. 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:52.170 We are. 0:34:52.300 --> 0:34:54.180 Which I hate that we have to end. 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:55.660 It was such a good time. 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:57.120 But we've had so much fun with you, Brian. 0:34:57.180 --> 0:34:59.620 I think just for the sake of the show... The 0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:00.140 year was 1998. 0:35:00.140 --> 0:35:02.440 The year was 98. 0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.620 And then 2000. 0:35:04.620 --> 0:35:07.000 And then 2000. And then 2002. 0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:07.720 And then 2004. 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:08.820 And then 2010. 0:35:08.820 --> 0:35:10.069 Well, I'll ask this. 0:35:10.140 --> 0:35:12.910 Do you think, do you think looking back on the 0:35:12.969 --> 0:35:15.230 start of pop music for, and it's in the way 0:35:15.290 --> 0:35:15.810 we hear. 0:35:15.650 --> 0:35:19.750 It now, do you think, what would you see moving forward? 0:35:20.070 --> 0:35:22.969 And like, do you think that like, do you think 0:35:23.030 --> 0:35:26.520 that we've learned or that the pop music industry has, 0:35:26.950 --> 0:35:30.090 Has it gotten better or has it gotten worse? 0:35:30.870 --> 0:35:33.410 I don't think it's gotten better or worse. I just 0:35:33.450 --> 0:35:36.969 think it is what it is right now. I do 0:35:37.010 --> 0:35:40.629 wish that we would give people their flowers that have 0:35:40.690 --> 0:35:49.270 basically been the blueprint of what has become standard in pop. 0:35:50.770 --> 0:35:53.890 For instance, the K-pop girls need to just Pay more 0:35:53.930 --> 0:35:55.299 homage to Tinashe. 0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.440 Stop shitting on her. 0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.500 You know, y'all have kind of like ran with her 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:06.050 whole thing visually, sonically. Just when you're going to reference somebody, 0:36:06.090 --> 0:36:07.260 just say what the reference is. 0:36:07.270 --> 0:36:09.270 Just be honest about the reference. But this is the problem. 0:36:09.290 --> 0:36:09.930 This is what I'm saying. 0:36:09.989 --> 0:36:12.910 The problem to me with the K-pop shit is because 0:36:12.969 --> 0:36:15.629 it's so manufactured. Do they know who they're stealing from? 0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:17.940 Do they even, like, are they connected? 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:19.580 Because these are also Gen Z, like, kids. 0:36:19.620 --> 0:36:21.740 Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, do K-pop dudes 0:36:21.820 --> 0:36:22.819 know who New Edition is? 0:36:23.100 --> 0:36:23.160 No. 0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:26.080 Do you get what I'm saying? Like, do they even know? 0:36:26.380 --> 0:36:28.900 Because it feels like it's like, here's the formula. 0:36:28.980 --> 0:36:30.890 Do this. I'm not so mad. At this point. I'm 0:36:30.930 --> 0:36:32.890 not as mad at the artists as I am at 0:36:32.930 --> 0:36:34.069 the people who are handling them. 0:36:34.090 --> 0:36:35.170 That are handling them. That's true. 0:36:35.190 --> 0:36:38.169 Right. That's it. So for me, it's just like, just say, 0:36:38.290 --> 0:36:38.850 you know what I'm saying? 0:36:38.870 --> 0:36:42.110 There's nothing wrong with being referential. When it comes to creative, 0:36:42.150 --> 0:36:44.130 there's nothing new under the sun, really. 0:36:44.150 --> 0:36:44.290 Right. 0:36:45.270 --> 0:36:47.930 Every idea that you've had, somebody else has had it 0:36:48.090 --> 0:36:49.770 in most situations. 0:36:49.989 --> 0:36:51.450 A hundred percent. 0:36:51.510 --> 0:36:54.880 So just say what the reference is. It's okay. Nobody's 0:36:54.900 --> 0:36:55.779 going to be mad at it. 0:36:55.780 --> 0:36:58.000 And if you don't know the reference, Brian has a 0:36:58.100 --> 0:37:00.540 thick CD case book to reference it for you because 0:37:00.580 --> 0:37:03.580 he has every single last piece of music ever made. 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:05.840 And I feel like we'll end on that. 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:06.400 That's right. 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:07.180 Guys. 0:37:07.660 --> 0:37:10.160 This has been Brian. Tell the people where they can 0:37:10.180 --> 0:37:12.530 find you. You already said it. You said Black Socialite, 0:37:12.550 --> 0:37:13.259 and that's what it is. 0:37:13.260 --> 0:37:15.890 You can find me on my handles, Black Socialite, or 0:37:15.910 --> 0:37:18.090 you can follow my vinyl content at MahaloX. 0:37:18.110 --> 0:37:21.700 The visuals go off every... I'd say. 0:37:21.780 --> 0:37:24.300 You are the, when Beyonce said you are the visuals, 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:25.160 I think of you. 0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.120 You are the visuals. Because there's always a visual thing 0:37:28.140 --> 0:37:28.580 with Brian. 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:29.899 Oh, absolutely. Yes. 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:31.200 That's why the nigga don't go out no more. 0:37:31.219 --> 0:37:33.040 That's true. You're creating. 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:34.440 You're off creating. 0:37:35.500 --> 0:37:35.920 Thank you so much. 0:37:35.940 --> 0:37:37.780 It takes a lot to get ready. Yeah, he can't 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:41.750 just pop out. Thanks again, everybody, for listening. 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