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Got to play of the day 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: coming up r G three former Heisman winner will stop 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: by Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback will join us 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: as well, and your phone call since we weren't here yesterday. 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Best and Worst to the weekend eight seven seven three 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: DP Show operator Tyler sitting by to take your phone calls. 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: We'll work in reverse order. We'll start with Bill Belichick 24 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 2: last night and his debut at North Carolina. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: It did not go well. In fact, it was embarrassing. 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: Here is just a portion of a column that was 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: written by the Charlotte News and Observers sports columnist Luke decoc. 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: He starts out to say, forget the cutoff sleeves. The 29 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: alleged football genius got pantsed in his college debut. North 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: Carolina paid ten million dollars for Bill Belichick and got 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: sold a bill of goods. The students gave up before 32 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: the third quarter was over, right after the defense. It's 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: certainly possible that this could have been worse for Belichick 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: and the tar Heels, but that's an argument over a 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: matter of degrees. Belichick and his brain trust promised the 36 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: thirty third NFL team, and yes, was certainly at the 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: same level of what the Cleveland Browns annually perpetrate on 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: their fans. Ouch, that's a local reaction. Bill got humbled. 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: And if you're looking for a great way to start 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: a college career, North Carolina had that first drive oh 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Man touchdown cutaway Michael Jordan, all the luminaries, dignitaries. We 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: got a beautiful night here for Carolina football, and they 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: forgot that TCU also was going to play as well. 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: And TCU was favored in that game. And I'm watching 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: the pregame and I understand you want to feature Belichick. 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: He's not interesting. He doesn't say anything interesting. The look 47 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: of him is kind of interesting on the sidelines. But 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: Rhys Davis sat down and did an interview with him, 49 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: and Holly Road did an interview with him. He's meant 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: to be looked at and watch the results, not listen 51 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: to because there's very little that he's going to tell you. 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: So you're watching. 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: This is different than Dion, and Dion opened up with 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: TCU as well. Dion is charismatic, he's interesting, flamboyant. But 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: you're watching Bill and they brought in seventy new players. Incredible, 56 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: incredible to have seventy new players and then try to 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: get them all to be ready to go week one 58 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: against a quality opponent. Yes, you're at home, but after 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: a while, after the first five minutes, then all that 60 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: wears off. Now you've got to play football. And they 61 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: looked woefully unprepared and TCU played really well, but you 62 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: just don't expect that from Bill Belichick. You don't expect 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: him to be out coached, as he said. Here is 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: Belichick after North Carolina was blown out. 65 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: You know, any time you give up two turnovers to 66 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 4: touchdowns offensively, that's not good. We gave up several long 67 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: plays on defense, you know where they gained a lot 68 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: of ours on one play. So it's just too many 69 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 4: of those. There wasn't any one thing. It was a 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: combination of multiple things. Too many three and out's too 71 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: many long plays on defense and then two turnovers. Well 72 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: we have three turnovers, two turnovers touchdowns. They can overcome that. 73 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: TCU had five hundred and forty two total yards on offense. 74 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: Second time in four hundred and sixty eight NFL and 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: college games Bill Belichick, a Belichick coach team has given 76 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: up that many yards. Stat of the Day brought to 77 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: you by Panini America. A lot of games to go over, 78 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: and you can look at this as parody because okay, 79 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: let's start Week zero. Iowa State knocks off k State. 80 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: That's in Ireland. You know one is ranked twenty two. 81 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: One is so that's not a big thing. Ohio State 82 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: taking down arch Manning in Texas, you had LSU over Clemson. 83 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: You know, these are mild upsets. Florida State stunning Alabama 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 2: and we'll talk a little bit more about that. Miami 85 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: beating Notre Dame was not a surprise. So these things 86 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: are going to happen this year. I don't know if 87 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: you're going to have a great team. Keep in mind 88 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: all the players of Ohio State lost to the NFL. 89 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: You lose your quarterback, I mean, you lose your running 90 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: back and they're at home. Yes, and Texas came in 91 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: with all the fanfare, number one and you got arch 92 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Manning and it proved to be too much. Now, Texas 93 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: could have won the game. I think people are reacting 94 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: that oh man arch looked terrible and they got blown out. 95 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: They could have won this game. And it's not like 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Ohio State was great. I thought the defense was great. 97 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: But you know, was it big for arch Manning? Too 98 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: big for arch Manning? Yes, it certainly felt that way, 99 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: but I got to get a let Let's I caution 100 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: people every year. Don't overreact. So he went from Heisman 101 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: to he shouldn't even be on the list. Texas, they're 102 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: not great Ohio State's great boy. Alabama is terrible, Florida 103 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: State is back Notre Dame. We don't overreact. It's fun too, 104 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: but you have to caution yourself with this because Arch 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: will come back and probably have a really good game 106 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: against an inferior opponent, and then we'll go, Okay, Belichick. 107 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: Next game, I think is that Charlotte, and you'll probably 108 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: win that. We'll go all right, well, he kind of 109 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: all right, it's not going to. 110 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: Be that bad. 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: The Alabama result is the one that stands out over 112 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: all of them because, and give credit Florida State, Florida 113 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: State was the better team and their defensive line was wonderful, 114 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: well offensive line as well. But I go back to 115 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Kaylin de Boor, who felt like he was the hottest 116 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: coach in America at Washington, and you can't turn down Alabama. 117 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: Nick Saban didn't have to replace Nick Saban. Kayland Boor 118 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: has to replace Nick Saban. And Nick Saban is omnipresident 119 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: on the Mothership, so it's not like he's he's gone, 120 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: you don't see him anymore. He's right there. And Caylen 121 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: de Boor and Alabama, they they got roughed up in 122 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: more ways than one, and then you start to think about, 123 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: you know, bigger picture here. Now, I think Belichick has 124 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: probably done after one year anyway, maybe two years, but 125 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: you know that might be that you know, he still 126 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: wants to go back to the NFL, which I think 127 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: going to college and what's happened in college, I'm less 128 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: likely to see him. And in fact, when he left the 129 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: Patriots so they fired him, I said he won't coach 130 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: in the NFL again. There's just too much there. But 131 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: you got the Alabama situation and immediately you start having 132 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: people go that's the buyout for Kaylen de Boor. That 133 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: didn't take long, and that's where we overreact. Let's just 134 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: wait and see how good this team is. But what 135 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: we saw over the weekend Florida State roughing them up. 136 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: In seventeen years at Alabama, Nick Saban lost four games 137 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: to unranked opponents. That's the same number of losses to 138 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: unranked opponents kayland Boor has in his first two seasons 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: at Alabama. 140 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 5: Woo stall of a day, Stalla day, stall outa day, 141 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: stant outa day. 142 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: This is the style of the day, so again ranked opponents. 143 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: Saban was one twenty four and four. 144 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: Debaor is six and four, and all of a sudden, 145 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 2: you can look around and go, what's that buyout for 146 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: Kaylen de Boor? 147 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: And I, you know. 148 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes we look at players and I go, give me 149 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: a larger sample size here, and I liken Zach Wilson 150 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: going number two overall to Kaylin de Boor going to 151 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Alabama Like wow, okay, And I don't want to overreact, 152 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: but I didn't see promising results in week in the 153 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: year one. And now you open up with Florida State. 154 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: Now it's at Florida State. They obviously were terrible last year. 155 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: Chip on their shoulder, we're a proud, proud team. And 156 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: Alabama went in there and Florida State did not care. 157 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: They didn't care who you are, what you are. And 158 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: that's what's surprising. When Saban left, Alabama was still good. 159 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: Now he resigned abruptly. I think he was just done 160 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: with all the transfer portal and nil and all of that. 161 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's terrible. It's rooning college football. Kaylen de 162 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 2: bor comes in after a successful year at Washington. Doesn't 163 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: mean you're the right guy for that job. Doesn't mean 164 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: he can't be a really good coach, but you can't 165 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: pass up Alabama. I understand that, but that's the one 166 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: that surprised me. And it wasn't a fluke. I mean, 167 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: when Florida State went up big, I'm thinking, yeah, they're 168 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: a far better team, and they certainly showed them. But 169 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Ohio State winning I wasn't surprised in that atmosphere. I mean, 170 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: Ohio State offensively didn't do much, but they did just 171 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: enough and that defense was wonderful. Miami as well against 172 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, I was not surprised at that. Here's the 173 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: stat for you. The last time Texas, Notre Dame in 174 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: Alabama all lost in the same week twenty seventeen Thanksgiving weekend, 175 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: Texas lost to Texas Tech, Notre Dame lost to Stanford, 176 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: Alabama lost to Auburn. And you know, there's no gimmes 177 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: in the SEC. It's not like Alabama can go well. 178 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: You know, we have some easy games. When you get 179 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: into the SEC, they're not easy games, you know, Belichick 180 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: in North Carolina, you're still in the ACC. All right, 181 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: You've got a couple of games you gotta worry about, 182 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: but you can still maybe carve out eight wins here. 183 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 2: That's I think the over unders eight eight and a 184 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: half something like that, which is what we thought they 185 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: were probably going to be doing. But Belichick is always 186 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: great at the next time around making adjustments. Now, if 187 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: this was an NFL game, I would have thought, Okay, 188 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: Belichick's going to really adjust in the second half or 189 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: the third core, maybe the fourth quarter, He's going to adjust. 190 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: It's seventy new players. That's enormous, and I think that's 191 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: the herculean task, is to get seventy players in a 192 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: short period of time to understand exactly what we're trying 193 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: to do here. And they looked inept, they look unprepared, 194 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: they were overmatched. And I did feel bad for LSU 195 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: because I'm watching the game, you know, pregame, and I'm going, 196 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: guys acknowledged TCU, acknowledge TCU. Do something, and Reees Davis 197 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: sat down with Bill Belichick. Okay, and let's go to 198 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: Holly Row with Bill Belichick. Do something on TCU. They're 199 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: favored in this game. Hey, Michael Jordan's here, do something, 200 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: Lawrence Taylor's here, Mia Ham's. 201 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 3: Here, do something on TCU. 202 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 6: Yes, there was this one shot where it was like 203 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 6: it was like Michael Jordan, Lawrence Taylor and I forget 204 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 6: who else is all sitting together? 205 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: And Roy Williams, Yeah, Roy Williams. And then they cut away. 206 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 6: To a real Randy Moscow and crazy like everybody was there. 207 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: Yep, And I thought, just just be fair with your coverage, 208 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: just to protect yourself. Everybody's picking North Carolina to win 209 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: the game. Meanwhile, TCU was favored, I think by three 210 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: and a half and that first drive and I thought. 211 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: Wow, that's impressive. 212 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: Then a three and out by t and I go wow. 213 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, I went, wow, North 214 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: Carolina's bad. 215 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, But. 216 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: Do you think it's way too much of an overaction 217 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 7: for a blowout? Like that column you read a couple 218 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 7: of minutes ago. They basically declared the writer said, this 219 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 7: is over. This experiment is a failure. Bill Belichick's first 220 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 7: year in New England, he was five and eleven. Then 221 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 7: he won three of the next four Super Bowls. It 222 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 7: seems like you should people should have a little more 223 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 7: faith in his expertise more than an August football game. 224 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: I would, except for recruiting is about personality, and Bill 225 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: doesn't have a personality. Bill is give me, give me 226 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: the groceries, and I'll make a meal better than anybody. 227 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: That's what he does. Recruiting is about. You got to 228 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: go talk to Jimmy Lipper and you know, you know, 229 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Jimmy Skinjeal and Tommy Kelamari and you got to talk 230 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: to all their parents and gladhand and boosters. And that's 231 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: not what he's built for. And you bring in seventy 232 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: new new players and I don't I don't know if 233 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: he one of those guys that brings them together, you know, 234 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: like Dion brings them together. Bell's like, all right, well 235 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: played TCU. 236 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: Uh, let's go get him. 237 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: This is different. And by the way, he did have 238 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: Tom Brady. I mean that helped in a really good 239 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: defense when he got there. People don't care what your 240 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: resume is, like none of these guys Sonny Dykes at 241 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: TCUs like, all right, that's Belichick. You're not playing everybody. 242 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: That's what they kept saying. Belichick ain't playing, so don't 243 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: worry about it. All right, let's see what he can do. 244 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: And you saw that. But I thought TCU did a 245 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: wonderful job kind of staying in the moment and not 246 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: letting it become too big. 247 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: Oh Todd, you had the wrong credit because there's a 248 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: Shawtt observer. Luke dea cockworks for the Raleigh News and observers. 249 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Oh the pitch, we had that right, that was something 250 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: I had wrong. 251 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 8: I thought it with show, but it's the Raleigh paper. 252 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: So we started out with an error. Yeah, okay, we 253 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: just rectified it. 254 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 6: That's actually Duke Lecoq writes for the Charlotte Observer as 255 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 6: Luke Takak. 256 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: But unlike North Carolina, we will recover from this week. 257 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: Will thank you already? 258 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, So best and worst of the weekend. Once 259 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: you saw that you liked you didn't like. We hear 260 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: from arch Manning coming up about his performance, don't overreact. 261 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: He's I know, I'm watching and I go, oh my gosh, 262 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: this guy's going to get roughed up. 263 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 7: Yes, Paul, I saw some graphic on the screen and 264 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 7: in no context at arch Manning. Oh and one in 265 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 7: his career. Peyton Manning won his first career start and 266 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 7: art Eli Manning won his first career start. Peyton Manning 267 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 7: was at home against East Carolina and Eli Manning was 268 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 7: at home against Murray State. 269 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: They weren't at the Shoe in. 270 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Augusta against the defending National Champs a pill. But you 271 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: know he oh, he can't win the Heisman. Now, okay, 272 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: he lost on the road to the defending national champs. 273 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: He can still win the Heisman. I said he wouldn't 274 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: win the Heisman. Somebody in this room said he would 275 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: cruise to the Heisman. 276 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: But it's early. Let's just see. 277 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: Let's just see how this all plays out. Instead of 278 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: here's my reaction, here's my hot take, and now I 279 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: move on from that. Texas is still a great team. 280 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: I thought both coaches didn't do well in trying to 281 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: take some chances. I thought Texas was going to take 282 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: more chances with Arch now Julian Say and the Ohio 283 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: State quarterback. I understand that. I'm going to let's just easy, man. 284 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: Hopefully our defense can win this game, keep us in 285 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: this make a couple of plays. I still thought we 286 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: would have a little bit more firepower. That was a 287 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: big surprise on both sides. 288 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: There be sure to catch the live edition of The 289 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am 290 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 291 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben 292 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 5: Maller with me and a lot to have you join 293 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 5: us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in 294 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 5: God's name is the Fifth Hour. I'll tell you it's 295 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: a spin off of it. Ben Mather Show, a cult 296 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 5: hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture if 297 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: you will a world will We chat with captains of 298 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 5: industry in media, sports, and more every week explore some 299 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 5: amazing facts about human nature and more. Listen to the 300 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: Fifth Hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 301 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. 302 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: I come in today and I see the LA Clippers 303 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: are trending, and I go, what first week is September? 304 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: What James Harden shaved his beard? And I don't think 305 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: that's why they're trending. And then I realize they're trending 306 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: for a batter reason. Pablo Tory. Pablo Tory finds out podcasts, 307 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: metal art, media, and the Athletic Contributor. To pardon the interruption, 308 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: all right, summarize your report on the Clippers. Steve Balmer 309 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 2: and Kawhi Leonard. 310 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 9: Hello, Dan, we got to stop meeting like this. It's 311 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 9: always it's always something. Let me get together. 312 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 10: You may recall how in twenty nineteen. 313 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 9: The NBA investigated the signing of Kawhi Leonard by the Clippers. 314 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 9: This was the Uncle Dennis story, him asking for all 315 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 9: the sweeteners the side deals. This was the Lakers, the Raptors, 316 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 9: very mad, lots of teams, very mad. NBA investigates says, 317 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 9: this is a cardinal sin. Salary caps are convention, but 318 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 9: they find nothing. Today. We have given something. I dare 319 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 9: say to anybody who cares about this stuff, and the 320 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 9: stuff here is kind of wild. This is a story 321 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 9: that started because of a company called Aspiration, which no 322 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 9: one really remembers in fairness, but they had signed some 323 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 9: of the most famous people in the world to be endorsers. 324 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 9: Leonardo DiCaprio, Drake, Robert Downey Junior, Cindy Crawford, Cindy Crawford's daughter, 325 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 9: all people who endorsed this climate change company that planted 326 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 9: trees to zero out your carbon footprint, like good guys, 327 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 9: only for those same good guys to have since been 328 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 9: embroiled in what has been a concurrent Department of Justice 329 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 9: and SEC investigations that have resulted in guilty please by 330 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 9: one of the co founders of the company, a prominent 331 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 9: Democratic politician and donor named Joe Sandberg, who happens to 332 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 9: have also been a buddy of Steve Bomber and Steve Bomber. 333 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 9: In this story, we establish and report, using over three 334 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 9: thousand documents and seven sources from inside the company, put 335 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 9: in fifty million dollars of his own money into Aspiration. 336 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 9: Very long lined up. I apologize for taking so long. 337 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 9: Here's the punchline. The endorsement deal that was the biggest 338 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 9: that Aspiration signed given all those A List avengers, happened 339 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 9: to be Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars, more than 340 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 9: four times the rest of the celebrity roster combined. And 341 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 9: the kicker, you might argue, is that he didn't do anything. 342 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 9: It was a no show job, did nothing, wasn't obligated 343 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 9: to do anything, which you can explain if you want, 344 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 9: but the point being it was a secret deal that 345 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 9: no one knew about until now. 346 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: NBA have anything to say yet. 347 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 9: Not yet, not yet, I should say, Steve Bomber and 348 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 9: the Clippers, when we asked them for comment, they said 349 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 9: that this was provably false, that they denied it. They 350 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 9: did not know at the time that we had over 351 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 9: three thousand pages of documents and seven sources. I look 352 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 9: forward to the improving the falsehoods that they allege. I 353 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 9: can tell you though, from the NBA perspective, what I've 354 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 9: been told this morning is that it's been a bit 355 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 9: of panic over there. I'm told that they did not 356 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 9: know about this deal between Steve Bomber, or at the 357 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 9: very least between Aspiration and Kawhi Leonard, with the influence 358 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 9: of Steve Bomber, according to our reporting, being the driving 359 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 9: force of it. So yeah, it's going to get a 360 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 9: little messy Dan over there, I think what rule did 361 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 9: the Clippers break? So salary caps or convention is something 362 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 9: that the NBA has decided to in previous statements state 363 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 9: very seriously. So kawhile only signed max contracts, so signed 364 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 9: the first one coming off of Toronto. The extension in 365 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 9: twenty twenty one is what lines up with the timeline 366 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 9: here that we are explaining the twenty eight million dollars 367 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 9: above and beyond the max deal he signed. He signed 368 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 9: another extension just last year. And so the thing here is, 369 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 9: and this is I think a bit of the character study. 370 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 9: Steve Bomber is the richest owner in all of sports 371 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 9: in the world. He's the sixth richest man on the planet. 372 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 9: And so if you know anything about how the Clippers 373 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 9: have operated, right the Intuit Dome a building, as he says, 374 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 9: built in his own image for hardcore basketball fans like him, 375 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 9: using personal private money, no taxpayer funds. He is a 376 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 9: guy who's expanded his front office, hired a zillion people. 377 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 9: Because that is uncapped, he can spend all the money 378 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 9: on that. But the most important thing this hardcore basketball 379 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 9: fan needed, of course, taking over the team from noted 380 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 9: bad guy Donald Sterling is a franchise superstar. And so 381 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 9: the rule alleged to have been broken here is that 382 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 9: cardinal rule. You gotta stay within the salary cap for 383 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 9: your actual players. And seven sources say that was deliberately 384 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 9: what was not. 385 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: Done, But was there a way that they could They 386 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: could argue that Kawhi Leonard did represent the company. He 387 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: was a name that was attached Like I'm just looking 388 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 2: at if I'm the Clippers, how do I get deniability? 389 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's hard. 390 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 9: It's hard because typically, you know, there's this funny phrase 391 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 9: in courtrooms you hear, like, you know, the absence of 392 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 9: evidence is not evidence. Well, in this case, he was 393 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 9: endorsing a company, and the absence of evidence is the 394 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 9: absence of any endorsement, no tweets, no retweets, no favorites, 395 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 9: no likes, no appearances, no nothing. According to the Internet, 396 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 9: according to the sources, we have nothing. And so the 397 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 9: absence of evidence happens to be in this very narrow 398 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 9: but meaningful way the evidence. And they might say, well, 399 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 9: Steve Barmer didn't know about this. But here is now 400 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 9: where I think all of this becomes a bit of 401 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 9: an IQ test, because what I haven't mentioned that we 402 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 9: get to in the story is that Aspiration was not 403 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 9: merely some random company. Aspiration on media Day of twenty 404 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 9: twenty one, and you can go to the press conference 405 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 9: footage and find it, they are announced as this founding 406 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 9: sponsor of the Los Angeles Clippers. They are signage everywhere. 407 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 9: Back of your court side seat says Aspiration Dan. They 408 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 9: were gonna get the Jersey patch. The company collapsed into 409 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 9: ruin and disgrace before they got there, but that was 410 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 9: the agreement. 411 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 10: It was announced their headlines everywhere you can find them. 412 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 9: You can see the video Steve Bomber right next to 413 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 9: the guy who pled guilty to two counts of wire 414 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 9: fraud just two weeks ago, so you can say we 415 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 9: didn't know about this, but then the IQ test is 416 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 9: and this is another bit of reporting. Then why and 417 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 9: this is according to the sources who are on tape, 418 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 9: the one source we have who agreed to go on 419 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 9: tape with voice modulation because of the federal investigations that 420 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 9: are ongoing and concur. 421 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 10: In their experience. 422 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 9: Uncle Dennis was calling as the company was declining and 423 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 9: unable to pay its bills. 424 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 10: Was calling saying pay us. 425 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 9: And inside of Aspiration, what is very clear is that 426 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 9: the number one priority, that is a quote, the number 427 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 9: one priority for this collapsing fake Green Bank was you 428 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 9: gotta pay Kawhi Leonard. As bankruptcy was on the horizon, 429 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 9: as no one could pay their bills. As no one 430 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 9: else was getting paid, Kawhi was getting paid. And the 431 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 9: question I ask you is why was he priority number 432 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 9: one for doing nothing at a company that could not 433 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 9: pay its bills. It would seem that there was some 434 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 9: influence from behind the scenes. 435 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: Pablo Tory, It's Pablo Tory finds out podcast, Metal Art 436 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: Media and the Athletic. Was it Joe Smith? Timberwolves? What 437 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: was that five first round draft picks that they were docked. 438 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: I mean, if this is all true, I got to 439 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: believe that precedent has been set here. 440 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 10: Bablo, Oh oh yeah. 441 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 9: Look, there's a history lesson here, right, Joe Smith and 442 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 9: Glenn Taylor. Glenn Taylor the piece of paper they wrote 443 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 9: off the books number one overall pick, getting that side 444 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 9: deal five picks. Glenn Taylor was suspended. Kevin McHale, the 445 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 9: GM of the team twenty five years ago at the time, 446 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 9: was put on leave. Fines were levied, millions of dollars 447 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 9: were levied. But I would say that there's a difference here. 448 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 9: And Mark Stein tweeted this out helpfully because I defer 449 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 9: to people who've been covering this stuff even longer than 450 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 9: me when it comes to well how does. 451 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 10: This play out? 452 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 9: He said, it was staggering and unprecedented what is being 453 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 9: alleged in our reporting. And so you could argue, at 454 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 9: least Stein argues, this is more than the Joe Smith story, right, 455 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 9: This is actually far more sophisticated and yet stupid at 456 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 9: the same time, given everything that I just gave a 457 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 9: long wind up on. And look, man, Dan, you and 458 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 9: I I love by the way that you care about 459 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 9: these stories because I don't know if anybody really does 460 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 9: with your level of providence in your platform in that way. 461 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 9: But how this sausage gets made behind the scenes with 462 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 9: owners and leagues. Steve Bomber is the richest owner in 463 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 9: all sports and Adam Silver's boss, right, So this is 464 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 9: not a real justice system in the NBA. This is 465 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 9: a business deal they got to strike. How do you 466 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 9: punish your own boss? What are the other bosses, the 467 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 9: twenty nine others you have, What do they have to 468 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 9: say about it? It's a fascinating parlor game what the 469 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 9: punishment ends up being. 470 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: And we don't know if those other owners have their 471 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: own little shell game going. I don't know how in 472 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: your reporting, if you know, you're stumbling upon other owners 473 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: who you know, because people love to talk. Once the 474 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: first you know person gets outed, Now all of a sudden, 475 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 2: it feels like it's safe to out other people. 476 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, the difference here, And by the way, it's funny, 477 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 9: like my tip line has never been more more used 478 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 9: by by enemies of Jalen Brunson, right, like a look 479 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 9: into look into that one? 480 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 10: Right as well as you know, James. 481 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: Is there something in there with Jalen Brunson. 482 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 9: Well, look how he arrived at the next This is 483 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 9: where I will have to defer to the reporting I 484 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 9: may or may not do on this certainly was interesting, right, like, Okay, 485 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 9: that's a pretty good deal for the next has some whatever. Anyway, 486 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 9: I don't want to get ahead of myself in terms 487 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 9: of it. 488 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 3: That's a tease. That's a tease. 489 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 9: It's a bit of a tease. Yeah, I'm trying a 490 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 9: little ankle with you. I always show a little bit 491 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 9: more ankle than I should with you. But but by 492 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 9: the way, subscribe, like to subscribe. But but the thing 493 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 9: about how often this happens is a really fascinating question, 494 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 9: because I would argue that it doesn't happen to this 495 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 9: scale and with this level of documentation, which is only 496 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 9: enabled because of the collapse of this fraudulent company. The 497 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 9: other stuff look historically, right, I was I was assuming 498 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 9: because I'm maybe dumb, like you would give a stock 499 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 9: tip or something, right like, have someone else, you know, 500 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 9: be multiple degrees away. You wouldn't do it through a 501 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 9: company that has its signage on your building. But that's 502 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 9: what our sources say is exactly the thing that happened. 503 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 9: And so in that way kind of of its own. 504 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 9: As as Stein was. 505 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 2: Alluding to, good to talk to you again. I'll talk 506 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: to you with the Jalen Brunson story. Whenever that comes out, Pablo. 507 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 10: You'll get You'll get some kneecap. 508 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: Thank you that level. Yeah, it might be moving to 509 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: thigh after that. Thank you, Pablo. Pablo. 510 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: Pablo Tory finds out podcast Metal Arc Media and The 511 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: Athletic and contributor to part in the Interruption. 512 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 513 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 514 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 515 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: listen live. 516 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: We did it. 517 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: We made it to a Friday football coming up tonight 518 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: last night. If I would have said these things are 519 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: going to happen, you would probably said, wait, guy gets 520 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: injured on the first play of the game. Then their 521 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: star defensive player ends up getting tossed for spitting on 522 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: the quarterback, and the Cowboys look great, Ceedee Lamb looks 523 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: great in the first half, bad in the second half. 524 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: Cowboys have a chance to win this game. 525 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts was the best player on the field, and 526 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 2: then there's lightning, and then there's an hour long delay 527 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: and somehow the Eagles held on. All of those things 528 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: happened last night. 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There was a lot to take 547 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 2: in last night I thought that the Cowboys would keep 548 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: it close. I thought it was going to be a 549 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: three point game, ended up before point game. And Dallas 550 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: probably should have won that game because if you look 551 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: at the first half, back and forth and Dallas was 552 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: kind of holding its own no Jalen Carter, they took 553 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: advantage of that. Cede Lamb looked great. You know, it's 554 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: probably hard to say this, but it's true. So Ceedee 555 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: Lamb had seven catches for one hundred and ten yards 556 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: and didn't have a good game because in the second 557 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: half he cost them dearly. And coming into this season, 558 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: he has had four career games with three or more drops. 559 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: That's more than any player since twenty twenty. Stat of 560 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: the Day Rod Rubond, Panini America the Official Trading cards 561 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: of the Dan Patrick Show. This is one of those 562 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: games that if you put it in a time capsule 563 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: and people go, how good was Jalen Hurts now aside 564 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: from the Super Bowls, but if you said just a 565 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: regular season game, let me see something, let me see 566 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: why he's the top five quarterback. That would have been 567 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: the game last night because Saquon Barkley was good, AJ 568 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: Brown non existent, DeVante Smith had a couple of catches 569 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: in there. But if I combine all their yards, even 570 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: think they have one hundred yards total. That was Jalen Hurts. 571 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: So you have your best defensive player who's out and 572 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: he seemed to take over the moment. He did the 573 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: right thing at the right time. First in completion was 574 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 2: in the second quarter. He played great, and he took 575 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: advantage of the middle of the field when he was running, 576 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: when he was back to pass, and then decided to 577 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: get out of the pocket and ran for a couple 578 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: of touchdowns. 579 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: That was all Jalen Hurts last night. 580 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: A best player on the field, and he's now I 581 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: know his odds to win the MVP. I don't even 582 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: think he's a top five MVP candidate because he's not 583 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 2: going to put up incredible numbers. This is a guy 584 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: who played quarterback last night. This wasn't a guy who 585 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: was passing. He was a quarterback last night. And this 586 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: goes with game managing, which I know that there are 587 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: quarterbacks who think that you know, this is a disparaging remark, 588 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: and it's not. It's understanding what you need to do, 589 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: and he did it. If I said game master instead 590 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: of game manager, is that better, because that's what this is. 591 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 5: To me. 592 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: That was old school football of I don't care what 593 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: my numbers are. 594 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: We're going to win. And he proved that. Whatever you needed. 595 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: Him to do last night, he did, and that's what 596 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: you want out of your quarterback. Now, I've said on record, 597 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: I didn't think he was a great quarterback. I just 598 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: think he's great for that team and we're going to 599 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: hold it against him that he's got maybe the best 600 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: front office in football. And you got Saquon there, you 601 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: got an incredible offensive line, you got two good receivers, 602 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: a good tight end, and it's almost like, yeah, well, 603 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts kind of had a head start here. He's 604 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: got a lot of talent around him. So did Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, 605 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: the best coach in the NFL, A great GM Hall 606 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: of Fame tight end, Tyreek Kill. You had good offensive 607 00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: line and like he had a. 608 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: Hit are too. 609 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: I just I think we grade Jalen Hurts on a 610 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 2: curve that somehow. Yeah, but yeah, but watched last night. Yeah, 611 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 2: but last night he did what you want your quarterback 612 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: to do, and it was wonderful to watch. 613 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 3: Brilliant, surgical. 614 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 8: Yes, Marvin, I think the main reason why it's going 615 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 8: to be so tough to him for him to win 616 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 8: league MVP is because he's gonna get dinged for his 617 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 8: team being so good, because somebody's gonna say, oh, if 618 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 8: I had that team, of course I'd throw thirty touchdowns 619 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 8: in rush for ten touchdowns two. 620 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. 621 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if we hold him to the same standards, 622 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: or maybe we hold him to a higher standard than 623 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: we do other players. You know, Josh Allen. We don't 624 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: talk about anybody around Josh Allen. It's just Josh Allen 625 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: being Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson now has Derrick Henry and 626 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: he's won two MVPs. But you start, you know Joe Burrow, 627 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: well he doesn't have a defense. Well he does have 628 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: maybe the best wide receiving corps in the NFL. But 629 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: we look at Jalen Hurts differently because this is a 630 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: stats driven league, stats driven award, and it's ought to 631 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 2: say that Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen 632 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 2: didn't have wonderful years. I'm just talking about value, And 633 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: I think you could say this with all sincerity. You 634 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, give me how many quarterbacks. Would 635 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: you take over Jalen Hurts in the playoffs? Okay, because 636 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: that's where I see real value. Regular season? Okay, Lamar 637 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: is gonna be great, Josh Allen's gonna be great, Joe 638 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 2: Burrow's gonna be great. 639 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 3: How many of those quarterbacks are you taking over? Jalen Hurts. 640 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 2: You're gonna take Mahomes. I might take Josh Allen. Josh 641 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: Allen's been a good performer in the postseason. He hasn't 642 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 2: been able to get by Kansas City. We've seen Joe 643 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: Burrow make a run Lamar Jackson. I'm not taking Lamar 644 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: Jackson over him. Run down the list of other quarterbacks there. 645 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm probably going to have Mahomes and then Jalen Hurts. 646 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels hadn't shown me enough yet. 647 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 10: C J. 648 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 3: Stroud hadn't shown me enough yet. 649 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy who out played Mahomes 650 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 2: in two Super Bowls. 651 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 3: He won one, but he outplayed him. 652 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: He could have two super Bowls, two MVPs if you 653 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: look at what he did in those Super Bowls. I 654 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: know it's high praise, hyperbole, probably overreaction, but I did 655 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: see it almost felt like the game was slowing down 656 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 2: for him, he just saw everything in a different way. 657 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: And sometimes it you know, crystallizes with quarterbacks, you know, 658 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: your first year or second or third or fourth. But 659 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: if you look and Chris Collinsworth brought this up, the 660 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: guy plays for championships, whether it's you know, college or 661 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 2: the NFL. He's in championship moments there. And it didn't 662 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: seem too big last night. And his demeanor doesn't change. 663 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 2: He is pretty cool and it was on display last night. 664 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: Now the headlines will be what happened to start the 665 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: game when Jalen Carter spit on Dak Prescott, and I, 666 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: you know, you got to have context with this. Now 667 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: it doesn't I'm not exonerating Jalen Carter in the moment. 668 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: I didn't have any context. Nobody did because I didn't 669 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 2: know that Dak Prescott was spitting when he was in 670 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 2: the huddle. You know, they're waiting for the you know, 671 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: the official has to say, all right, you can break 672 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: the huddle, now we can get started. And Jalen Carter 673 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 2: is probably five feet away maybe from Dak Prescott, and 674 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: maybe his interpretation was, wait a minutes, he's spitt in 675 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: an hour direction and then Jalen Carter comes over and 676 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you see him spit on 677 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott. 678 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. 679 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 6: The thing that does make that a little funny is 680 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 6: they're clearly drawn at each other, I think, because Jalen 681 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 6: Carter is all by him self waiting there, and Dak 682 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 6: walks four or five yards in order to spit between 683 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 6: those two his two teammates, you know, so it's not 684 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 6: like he was just standing there and spit. 685 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 3: Dak walks almost five full yards. 686 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 6: That's further than you think in order to spit between 687 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 6: those guys, when he could have just spit right at 688 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 6: his own feet. Instead, he walked and approached him. That 689 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 6: some of the video does start to make it look 690 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: like there was a lot more going on there. 691 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 3: Here is Dak talking about this spitting incident. 692 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 11: I was right here by the two linemen, and I 693 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 11: guess I needed to spit and I wasn't gonna spin 694 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 11: on my liman, and I just spit a head. But 695 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 11: I'd say he was back there where Joelry was in 696 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 11: that sense, and he asked, or he goes, you're trying 697 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 11: to spin on me? And at that point, I mean, 698 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 11: I felt like like like he was insulting me, like, 699 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 11: I don't I wouldn't spin on somebody. I'm damn sure 700 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 11: not trying to spin on you. They were about to 701 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 11: play a game. I'm wondering why you're trying to mess 702 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 11: with the rookiet. So when I stepped through, I actually 703 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 11: say the words like what the hell would excuse me? 704 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 11: But I'm probably even more colorful. What would I need 705 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 11: to spin. 706 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 5: On you for? 707 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 11: And he just spin on me in that moment and 708 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 11: was more of a surprise than anything. Ress obviously saw 709 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 11: it the flag. I was like, hell, yeah, we get 710 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 11: fifteen yards to start the game. 711 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: Off and the ref is right there, really easy call. 712 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 2: I mean, Dak kind of goes, uh, hello, he just 713 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 2: sped on me. Here's Jalen Carter talking about his side 714 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 2: of the story. 715 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 12: You know it was a mi state I have on 716 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 12: my side. You know, he just won't happen a game. 717 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 12: I feel bad for just my teammates and the fans 718 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 12: are there. You know I'm doing it for them. You 719 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 12: know I'm done for my family also, but depends. You know, 720 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 12: they sold the most love you heard them my day 721 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 12: to day. You know, he's just not being able to 722 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 12: finish the start the game, even defendant the game, get up, 723 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 12: you don't getting. 724 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: Better, I won't having a gag. 725 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 2: Okay, the NFL has placed a large emphasis this year 726 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: and that this was a topic in the offseason with 727 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 2: teams and players respect for the opponent. 728 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 3: That's a big factor. 729 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 2: Ross Tucker, who was doing the game with on west 730 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 2: Wood One, talked about that as well. It's a really, 731 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: really big point of emphasis. So the next question will 732 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 2: be will Jalen Carter be suspended? And I think I 733 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: think given the context of this, now once again, he 734 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 2: got suspended for the entire game, and I think the 735 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: league may factor that in now do they find him 736 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: I would be surprised if they suspend him for another game. 737 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: If he did this in the second half of the 738 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 2: game last night, then maybe he would be suspended for 739 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: the following game. But he got suspended now. In my opinion, 740 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 2: it might be a fine, but I would be surprised 741 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: if they're going to suspend him again. Doesn't exonerate him 742 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 2: for what he did. I understand what he's doing in 743 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: the moment, and it wants you got to give these 744 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: things context because obviously you see it at the moment, 745 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 2: and I'm going why would he spit on him to 746 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 2: start this season? And once again, these guys are hyped up. 747 00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: They've been in the locker room, They're ready to go. 748 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: So it's opening night, banner Night playing the Cowboys, ready 749 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 2: to go? Wait are you spitting at me? And then 750 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: he approaches Dak and then all of a sudden he 751 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,760 Speaker 2: gets tossed. What a wild start to the game. Wild start, yeah. 752 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 7: Pa, I'd barely even settle down. I don't really even 753 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 7: have the sound up, and I see a flag going 754 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 7: the air. I'm like, did they run a play? 755 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 5: And it was like that. 756 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 7: Scene in Slapshot, the hockey movie where the guy punches 757 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 7: the other guy during the national anthemic? How's the flag 758 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 7: going on? 759 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 3: Before the game started? 760 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 2: Philadelphia is lucky to get a win, really lucky. Now, 761 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 2: I always look at these losses at the beginning of 762 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 2: the year. We tend to look at losses at the 763 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: end of the year. Remember what I said that Monday 764 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 2: morning when the Bengals lost to the Patriots. I said, 765 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 2: that's the kind of loss that comes back and keeps 766 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 2: you out of the playoffs. 767 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened. 768 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 2: You're gonna have sloppy football this week and probably next 769 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: week because most of these players haven't played and if 770 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: they have, it's just a little bit. And last night 771 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: was kind of sloppy, or as Paul he would say, choppy. 772 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: But I thought Dallas did enough to win that game. 773 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 2: I just didn't understand why there wasn't And I'm sure 774 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 2: Dallas had a spy on Jalen Hurts. 775 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 3: He didn't do it. I mean he wasn't James Bond. 776 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 3: I mean he. 777 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: Didn't do a very good job. He was really good 778 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: at hiding the fact that he was the spy on 779 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts because Jalen Hurts felt like he had he 780 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: had room to run and this wasn't a toush push. 781 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 2: He was able to score legitimate touchdowns. But Saquon he 782 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 2: played okay. AJ Brown had a couple of targets, DeVante Smith, 783 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 2: Dallas Goddard had some catches there. But this was one 784 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: of those games where if I'm Dallas and Brian Schottenheimer, 785 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: that's his first NFL game as a head coach, and. 786 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 3: I thought he did a pretty good job. 787 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 2: I thought they made enough plays to win that game, 788 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 2: and that's one of those if they had stolen that game, 789 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: man what would we be talking about. 790 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing. 791 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 6: Last night watching the Eagles, it was kind of like 792 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 6: a perfect example to me of why you need name 793 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 6: brand players at skill position at the skill positions because 794 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 6: you can't. Saquon Barkley is a name brand, right, and 795 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 6: he's a guy. 796 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 3: I thought he looked great. Right. 797 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 6: You have two superstar caliber wide receivers you can't. And 798 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 6: then plus you have Jalen Hurts who was killing him 799 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 6: last night. How are you going to cover everybody? You 800 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 6: kind of can't. That's to me, it was like the 801 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 6: ultimate view again into like this is why you pay people, 802 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 6: this is why you have stars at those positions.