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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all, This is episode eighty nine of

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Speaker 1: Native Lampod, where we give you our breakdown of all

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Speaker 1: things politics and culture. We got some good topics today,

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Speaker 1: and we are your hosts, Angela Raie, Tiffany Cross, and

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Speaker 1: Andrew Gillen. What y'all got today?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's a good topic, but

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Speaker 3: a sad topic that I want to talk about is

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Speaker 3: the tragic, untimely passing of Malcolm Jamal Warner, who we

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Speaker 3: grew up with as THEO and I've been seeing all

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Speaker 3: the tributes pour in, so I definitely want to share

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Speaker 3: some reflections on his life and what he meant to us.

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Speaker 4: And I'll join you in that. Angela, Tiffany, we got

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Speaker 4: to talk about this Biden set of interviews. Not Joe Biden,

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Speaker 4: but it's Sun Hunter. What's he talking about? I think

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Speaker 4: y'all want to stay tuned to hear what he's had

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Speaker 4: to say lately.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely said some things so we've been saying for

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Speaker 1: many years now. Say her name in reference to Sandra

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Speaker 1: Bland and then of course to Breonna Taylor and so

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Speaker 1: many others where I'm from in Seattle, Charlene and Lyles.

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Speaker 1: But An officer was finally sentenced related to the shooting

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Speaker 1: death of Brehanna Taylor and Louisville, Kentucky. This week, we

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Speaker 1: also discussed that, Okay, theo here's another question for you.

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Speaker 5: What was Prometheus's punishment for bringing fire to man?

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Speaker 6: He was Jane to a boulder.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's exciting to be so near to your

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Speaker 4: great mind?

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Speaker 6: Well, could you get a little nearer to my great mind?

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Speaker 3: That was, of course Malcolm Jamal Warner, who tragically passed

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Speaker 3: away this week in Costa Rica. He was there on

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Speaker 3: vacation with his wife and daughter. And you know this,

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Speaker 3: I think this death hit us all in such a

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Speaker 3: way because of what the Cosby Show meant to black

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Speaker 3: It was interesting even watching the media this morning because

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Speaker 3: Ozzy Osbourne also passed away, and you saw on a

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Speaker 3: lot of the morning shows it was all these like

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Speaker 3: long tributes and interviews over Ozzy Osbourne. And I think

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Speaker 3: so many of us in Black America thought man, we

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Speaker 3: lost someone who was a member of an institution this week.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing to me, I'm sure it's true for

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Speaker 3: you guys. The Cosby Show had such a large audience

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Speaker 3: in the eighties. Every Thursday, they would capture fifty percent

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Speaker 3: of the TV viewing audience. Now you don't get those

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Speaker 3: kind of numbers anymore. Super Bowl doesn't even get those

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Speaker 3: people who had televisions were tuned into The Cosby Show,

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Speaker 3: and we could just drop things like Gordon Guard Trail

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Speaker 3: and the bands he used to make, and all the

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Speaker 3: things that he the classic timeless memories that he gave us.

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Speaker 3: And I know so many it hit me. It makes

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Speaker 3: me sad. But interview in particular, I know so many

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Speaker 3: black men or even Angela, like the black men we know.

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Speaker 3: I know so many black men who said this death

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Speaker 3: struck them so hard, like they're like my whole day

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm curious how a death struck you guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I think that one. I just want to

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Speaker 1: comment on the type of person that Malcolm Jamal Warner was.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have the privilege of being very close to him,

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Speaker 1: but every time we had an interaction or in exchange,

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Speaker 1: he was always so uplifting, so encouraging, always, you know,

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Speaker 1: good jobs. This just really really for the people, and

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Speaker 1: it feels like he really loved life. I am devastated

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Speaker 1: for his young family. I feel so badly that that

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Speaker 1: on a family vacation getting away from this crazy country

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Speaker 1: right now, you know, to be trying to be free

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Speaker 1: and then to end up with a different kind of

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Speaker 1: freedom that traumatizes your loved ones is just a lot.

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Speaker 1: I will say. What's been interesting to me are the

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Speaker 1: and it does feel like someone we grew up with,

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Speaker 1: that whole family on air, it feels like you're up

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Tiffany your comments about how television has been treating

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Speaker 4: I think people really really ignore that their own at

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Speaker 4: I was this was one of the first Black American

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Speaker 4: dimensions of black folks that were not what you see

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Speaker 4: He actually had this, you know, this spirit about him

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Speaker 4: everybody's friend if you will, and an enemy to none,

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Speaker 4: but also a very strong, unapologetic brother who allowed his

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Speaker 4: then was so open and increasingly transparent with us before

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Speaker 4: it was him to share what his mental state was,

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Speaker 4: how he was doing, what post Cosby life was like,

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Speaker 4: what it meant to have all syndications stripped from television

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Speaker 4: I mean, just so incredible and I'm with you. The

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Speaker 4: loss of a dad, a young dad, you know, a

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Speaker 4: and my brother sent me a text you know, along

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Speaker 4: these lines. It just made me really reflective of life

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Speaker 4: because Malcolm Jamal Warner felt like like he was of

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Speaker 4: our age group, and in many ways really is and

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Speaker 4: we saw ourselves reflected in him on TV as he

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Speaker 3: Yes, Angela rightfully pointed out before we came on air

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Speaker 3: that he didn't want to just be known as THEO,

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Speaker 3: which I imagine is challenging if everyone sees you and they

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Speaker 3: always see Theos. So he went on, of course, to

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Speaker 3: play a lot of other roles, and what many of

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Speaker 3: you may know is he was quite the accomplished spoken

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Speaker 3: want to close out this segment with a few spoken

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Speaker 3: words from Malcolm Jamal Warner, rest in power.

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Speaker 5: Before you get about here, would you mind doing a poem?

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Speaker 6: This piece is a Sante sana about a gun and comrade.

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Speaker 6: But you're still in that freedom shit word, Well you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean this poetry, we still be on

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Speaker 6: that weedam shit, that birthing inspirational couplets and breedom, shit

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Speaker 6: that I spit cats should heat them, Shit that words

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Speaker 6: can't break my bones, but if you cut me homes,

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Speaker 6: I bleed them. Shit atonement for the masses of hard

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Speaker 6: asses and heads that tread on civil liberty in the

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Speaker 6: most uncivilized fashion is said to be dead. Can we

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Speaker 6: afford to be dumb for free? See? That's the question

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Speaker 6: I'm asking as I beg for an ounce of truth

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Speaker 6: amongst the aloof surrounding me. We descendants of stolen legacies,

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Speaker 6: children of ancestors who cannot be broken, birthers, and bearers

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Speaker 6: of a culture that has been repeatedly robbed and ransacked

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Speaker 6: to feed the spiritually famine like a black woman's bosom.

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Speaker 6: We who become a pre existing condition simply because we

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Speaker 6: pre exist. We who realize we are worthy. We are

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Speaker 6: the guardians. We are the gardeners. We are the soil.

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Speaker 6: We are the toil. We are the protectors of our

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Speaker 6: sieves who need to be protected, who need to see

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Speaker 6: true love and black excellence redirected, not through fame and fortune,

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Speaker 6: but redirected through character. Indeed, and indeed, it is those

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Speaker 6: who stand on the front line fighting for the minds

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Speaker 6: of our young, black and gifted. It is you who

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Speaker 6: are in inspiration to me, because you are the revolution

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Speaker 6: we do not see on TV. A Sante Sana.

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Speaker 5: There's the only difference between crack cocaine and cocaine is

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Speaker 5: studying bribricarbonate and water and heat. Literally that's it.

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Speaker 8: And those things are pretty much free. If you go

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Speaker 5: This is free. You can go to your neighborhood convenience

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Speaker 5: store and just get anyway. I don't want to tell

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Speaker 5: people how to make how to make crack cocaine, but

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Speaker 5: it literally is. And many star cocaine and baking soda.

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Speaker 8: How different is the experience.

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Speaker 5: It's vastly, vastly different, And like, for real, I feel

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Speaker 5: really reluctant to kind of have some EU fork discussion.

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Speaker 5: I know you're not asking me to do that, but

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Speaker 5: have some U fork discussion about crack cocaine.

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Speaker 8: I think this might be kind of the opposite here.

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Speaker 5: Okay, no, it's the exact opposite. I'm saying. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to have the experience of some you for a

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Speaker 5: Greek call. That's how powerful crack cocaine is. My point

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Speaker 5: combines three really important things. It's habit for me. There

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Speaker 5: is an oral fixation, and there is a ritual combined

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Speaker 5: you have your cigarette with your coffee. Crack is that

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Speaker 5: on steroids. This is like a PSA if you want

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Speaker 5: to completely utterly up your life. You know, I don't

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Speaker 5: think that anything is necessarily oh you do it once.

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Speaker 8: You addict that.

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Speaker 5: But there's about the closest thing that the statement could

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Speaker 5: be true would be with crack cocaine.

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Speaker 1: In this segment, he's going through this journey. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are like, oh, this is he's trying to

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Speaker 1: recruit people in the crack cocaine, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's true at all. What I think is one Hunter

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Speaker 1: Biden is so damn brilliant number one. Number two like

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Speaker 1: hearing him say like, I'm not trying to have a

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Speaker 1: euphoric like conversation about it because of what yeah, where

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Speaker 1: it We'll send him? I think is so responsible. And

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Speaker 1: then three, I really appreciated what he said at the

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Speaker 1: end about it's a PSA and I'm just saying this

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Speaker 1: because hopefully we end up cutting it, you know, forty

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Speaker 1: five seconds in. I think that it's smart to just say,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is this is what it was. This

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Speaker 1: is the single difference. And I got to tell y'all

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Speaker 1: when I was watching this, my immediate thought was, I

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Speaker 1: wonder if he was already experiencing with or having the

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Speaker 1: experiences with crack when the Crime Bill came out. And

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Speaker 1: the reason why I thought that is because he talks

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Speaker 1: to Jamie, which I know we're also going to play

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Speaker 1: some podcasts or podcast clip from about his father being

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Speaker 1: you know, anything goes because of the trauma they experience,

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Speaker 1: but he says, you know, it was quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: So I was wondering if his dad was trying to

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Speaker 1: punish the system and punish him through the crime bill

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Speaker 1: was fascinated by it because of the very simple a

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Speaker 1: touch they are, and Beverly Hills or Bellair Holmes and

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Speaker 1: how that same like the donor class basically decided the election,

436
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Speaker 1: and he feels like his dad was trying to save

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Speaker 1: the party over himself. That's his perception. But I think

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Speaker 1: what is again contrashing to me right now is nobody

439
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Speaker 1: is willing to call a thing a thing like even

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Speaker 1: in this upcoming autopsy for the Democratic Party, put Hedge

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Speaker 1: Biden's dance on air, you know, so that there can

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Speaker 1: be an honest assessment about what is now. Whether or

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Speaker 1: not I agree with him about his dad's the state

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Speaker 1: in the election, I don't, right, But I think that

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Speaker 1: the point is you can have a debate in earnest

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Speaker 1: and a discussion in earnest with someone who's willing to

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Speaker 1: be intellectually honest about what is. So I just wanted

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to bring forth to y'all. Is

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Speaker 1: that the energy that the Democratic Party needs to lean

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Speaker 1: into right now because he is irreverent and he is clear,

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Speaker 1: and he is telling the truth about what is. At

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Speaker 1: this point, he's like, what in the hell do I

453
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Speaker 1: have to lose?

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean I have to say I just have lost

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Speaker 3: the ability to give a shit about the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 3: And that's not to say because I think people misunderstand

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Speaker 3: that when we talk have the's discussions, and they think

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Speaker 3: that me and Angela catches straights for this, even though

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Speaker 3: sometimes I'm the person who said it, and people just

461
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Speaker 3: you know, I can't believe Angela said that, and I'm like,

462
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Speaker 3: that was me. But I'm not saying this means we

463
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Speaker 3: lay down and die. I'm not saying we won't do

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Speaker 3: everything we can and to show up and vote during

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Speaker 3: the terms. I'm not saying that we will not be

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Speaker 3: part of their resistance. I'm saying the party as a structure,

467
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Speaker 3: like I think what we're talking about is such minutia,

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Speaker 3: Like most people don't even know about the Hunter Biden interview.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's such a Beltway conversation. But people are

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Speaker 3: not in every group chat I'm in. People aren't like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, let's talk about Hunter Biden. I think

472
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Speaker 3: people are just looking for relief and so the whole.

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Speaker 3: But the I don't think everyone always understands the power

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Speaker 3: that the structure created, the power that the Democratic Party

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Speaker 3: itself has. So my thought is like, disrupt the infrastructure

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Speaker 3: of the political system. And I was warned that I

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Speaker 3: would feel this way, because I will tell you I

478
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Speaker 3: am deep into Asada right now, a recommendation that Angela

479
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Speaker 3: made and I'm deep into it, and I am it's

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Speaker 3: just making me more enraged. So I don't look at

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Speaker 3: this like, yeah, this autopsy the Democratic Party. I gotta

482
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Speaker 3: tell you, I feel like it's as many white supremacists

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Speaker 3: as we all know in the Democratic Party. I get

484
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Speaker 3: so grossly offended every time I hear one of them

485
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Speaker 3: come out who's supposed to be an ally and say

486
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Speaker 3: something completely tone deaf, like you look at Target, for example,

487
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Speaker 3: like all the black people were protesting Target, how many

488
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Speaker 3: white women did y'all see protesting tart and posting about it?

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Speaker 1: I saw them with a target bag and I was

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Speaker 1: ready to fight her. I feel ashamed to say it,

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Speaker 1: but I was like, what's.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: What you wait?

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Speaker 3: We stand alone? We stand alone. And so when you

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Speaker 3: look at like a majority of elected members in Congress

496
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Speaker 3: are white people and they are still This is why

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Speaker 3: the Epstein thing gets on my nerves because it's like

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Speaker 3: you all keep thinking that, oh, this is our opportunity

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Speaker 3: to get them back, and it's so offensive because I'm like,

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Speaker 3: why the fuck are y'all always running after maga voters, Like,

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Speaker 3: tell me how you're gonna appeal to me, tell me

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Speaker 3: how you're addressing my problem. But you're so excited that

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Speaker 3: you'll get to break up the mega colts and you

504
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Speaker 3: spending your energy playing the guitar running around on every

505
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Speaker 3: TV show. But the shit that's impacting us the hardest.

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Speaker 3: I don't where are the social media stunts for that? Like,

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Speaker 3: and not that I want to see that either, but like,

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Speaker 3: where is the plan of action for that? So I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm happy to hear from hunter Byden just

510
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Speaker 3: because he's a personality, you know, and I think that

511
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Speaker 3: he has insight that a lot of people don't have.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. Okay, so we know that they

513
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Speaker 3: didn't want Kamala Harris as the nominee. I just don't

514
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Speaker 3: want to get to us like what it serves us.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm on something. I probably should have

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Speaker 3: waited to read this book, but I'm on something altogether.

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Speaker 3: When you start hearing about like the details of what

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Speaker 3: this government does to us. And I know we're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about Breonna Taylor. I was gonna wait to even

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Speaker 3: mention is out of until we got to Breonna Taylor.

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Speaker 3: But I just I don't know, y'all. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how y'all like you all are talking about the politics

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Speaker 3: of it, I'm curious how do you feel hearing that?

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Speaker 3: Like how do you feel in this moment of knowing

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Speaker 3: that this autopsy's even taken place? Like does it move

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Speaker 3: you anyway?

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Speaker 1: No? But but I do think it's important for us

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Speaker 1: to understand, like I'm not talking about this like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this could be good for the party.

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Speaker 2: Me.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about for the party it like there has

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Speaker 1: to be something that they do that is markedly different

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Speaker 1: than what they're doing right now.

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Speaker 4: And I do think copycat h they're basically paying copycat.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, where did the Trump people scattered to?

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Speaker 4: Let's go to that corner.

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Speaker 3: That's what I want to say. You're a fan, but

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Speaker 3: you're saying they have to do you think they're going

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Speaker 3: to No, I don't know, but all.

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Speaker 1: I can say is in where I like, I grew

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Speaker 1: up in politics professionally, so what I know is to

542
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Speaker 1: tell you, like, oh, this will work or this won't work.

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Speaker 1: And what I also know right now is everything that

544
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Speaker 1: I would have typically guided people to do won't work

545
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Speaker 1: in this moment because politics as usual is gone. It

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Speaker 1: is politics is as unusual af right. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well if we and by this

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Speaker 1: we meet now, I mean, like as Vince would say,

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Speaker 1: those who are who would represent the politics of goodwill

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Speaker 1: are to say and do anything right now, It means

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Speaker 1: there's a broad coalition of people that have to get

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Speaker 1: to get together to fight against evil if we can

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Speaker 1: even agree on what evil is. There are reformers. There

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Speaker 1: are people who are you know, institutionalists I would put

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Speaker 1: Andrew there, you know, who believe in the institution and

556
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Speaker 1: want to uphold it and fix it. The reformers who

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Speaker 1: are somewhere a little bit to the left of that

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Speaker 1: socialists and then the anti Trumpers. All of those folks

559
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Speaker 1: have to come together to preserve or to rebuild whatever

560
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Speaker 1: is going to be that whatever happens next. Now, nobody

561
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Speaker 1: could do anything. We could just sit here and watch

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Speaker 1: it all burn, But we are going to be on

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Speaker 1: fire first. We're already on fe So I don't feel.

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Speaker 4: So no, no, no, please finish your point. You don't feel

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Speaker 4: I don't feel.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like I want to watch it burn.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got this Harriet Tubman chain on

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Speaker 1: my neck for a reason, like I'll set it on fire,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not about to watch it burning and catch

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Speaker 1: my people on fire. So I am other school that thought.

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Speaker 1: If there are some people who are willing among us

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Speaker 1: to tell the truth, to say that they want to

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Speaker 1: see something happen differently, I'm with them. I'm with them

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. If they're not there, I'm not just like, oh,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing we can do. I don't believe that. I

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Speaker 1: believe there's a lot we can do, and I believe

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Speaker 1: I'm going to set it on fire, but I don't

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Speaker 1: know what we can do that can stop. Like I

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Speaker 1: keep going back to this, like all these things that

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Speaker 1: are happening. It feels like it's a lot of shuffling

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Speaker 1: papers and energy. But I'm like, what has happened that

582
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Speaker 1: we're stopping something that this because of this thing?

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Speaker 3: This stopped it could and andrew The last time I

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Speaker 3: said this, you gave a few examples, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's true. That's a really good point, because

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Speaker 3: I also don't want to discourage people from doing what

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Speaker 3: they you know, what they feel like they should be doing.

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Speaker 3: But I am looking like, damn, y'all, I think we're

589
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Speaker 3: in for a long night. I think like I see

590
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Speaker 3: what's coming, and I think we are in for.

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Speaker 1: A maybe pre or.

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Speaker 3: Post reconstruction existence in this country. And even just I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to talk about this every week, I swear

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Speaker 3: I won't, But even reading Asada, when you hear about

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Speaker 3: what this woman went through, I'm in shame on me

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Speaker 3: for just now reading it all these decades later. But

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Speaker 3: when you read about what this woman went through, it

598
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Speaker 3: wasn't that long ago. You know, Like how the government

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Speaker 3: works against us when you look at how the government

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Speaker 3: is literally targeting black women right now, targeting our livelihood,

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Speaker 3: target our income, and that's not to leave out black men,

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Speaker 3: black men. I love y'all. People always telling me why

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Speaker 3: you're so hard on black men. I'm not hard on

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Speaker 3: black men. I love y'all too. I'm just looking at

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Speaker 3: who is getting hammered the worst right now, and it's

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Speaker 3: black women, And I just feel like, how can we

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Speaker 3: stop this? Three hundred thousand black women out of work?

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Speaker 3: What was the policy that we could have done to

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Speaker 3: stop that? Five hundred women haven't returned to the workforce

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Speaker 3: since uh COVID the end of Trump's first administration. What

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Speaker 3: could we have done? What might we have done to

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Speaker 3: stop that? The best thing you said to me is,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to watch it burn. I'll set it

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Speaker 3: on fire, but I'm not gonna watch it burn. I'm

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Speaker 3: kind of right there, like I'm like, yeah, we gotta

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Speaker 3: might set some things on fire. I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 3: still working it out in real time.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we're just so we're clear. We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about the violent destruction in a riot, like we

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Speaker 1: have to be clear about that. We're just talking about

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Speaker 1: the things that have caused us harm, that has have

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Speaker 1: done you know, done us poorly. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: rid of those things we're going to shine a light

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Speaker 1: on being an allegory. Yes, we have to say that

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Speaker 1: because we apparently it's some slow people among us.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, Yeah, and the stupid the f A. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to be smart, King Spell at the f AE. U

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Speaker 3: X knew the station loves the clip things.

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Speaker 1: Not the fakes, but the fakes work too.

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Speaker 3: It can X news station.

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Speaker 1: They love to clip our thank you, thank you, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Next time, just make sure you say following them at

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Speaker 1: Native Lampid. Maybe we'll convert some of your viewers. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: you are gonna say some fifteen minutes ago.

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Speaker 4: I you know, so, I just had a lot of

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Speaker 4: thoughts running through my mind. But I will say when

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Speaker 4: we began talking about hunter By, I wasn't actually viewing

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Speaker 4: him through the political lens, but I do see the

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Speaker 4: opportunity moment for him to be able to have some

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Speaker 4: impact on I think a party that whose members by

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Speaker 4: and large have good intention. However, big picture are completely

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Speaker 4: void of a plan, and the plan worries me less

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Speaker 4: than where the passion is. And I just feel like

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Speaker 4: as institutional list and as protectors of the regime as

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Speaker 4: it exists today, Democrats have become quite uninspiring and frankly boring,

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Speaker 4: very very default. You know, it's like, if you don't

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Speaker 4: do anything, these things are going to keep happy. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's like tomorrow will come and you do nothing in

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Speaker 4: the day after that, there will be the day after tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's inspired by that assembly line. Nobody is inspired by

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Speaker 4: the mathematics that is, basically, become black people. You're transaction

652
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Speaker 4: because you can rely on a group of black folks

653
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Speaker 4: and black women and black men, but black people for

654
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Speaker 4: a certain turnout by percent in the polls. But you

655
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Speaker 4: get frustrated when their voices, voices begin to be heard,

656
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Speaker 4: when we start to raise our voice, when we start

657
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Speaker 4: to protest against a party agenda, a platform that doesn't

658
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Speaker 4: reflect our values where we stand now. When that happens,

659
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Speaker 4: you're a dit action. You're taking from the opportunity moment here.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you just go somewhere. We'll deal with that

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Speaker 4: another day. We'll have our chance to sit around and

662
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Speaker 4: pow wow about that. And that day never comes in.

663
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Speaker 4: It never ever becomes a part of the bloodstream of

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Speaker 4: the organization, the Democratic Party. It is always an appendage.

665
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Speaker 4: Black people are always just outside the body women are

666
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Speaker 4: treated just outside the body until you want a debate

667
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Speaker 4: about their bodies and then their central focus. But do

668
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Speaker 4: we really mean it so worse than not having a plan,

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Speaker 4: And maybe don't start sending no emails or another Excel

670
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Speaker 4: spreadsheets because that's the problem. Y'all are addicted to that stuff,

671
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Speaker 4: and what is absent from me is where's the heart,

672
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Speaker 4: where's the nerve? Where is the stuff that's keeping you

673
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Speaker 4: up at night? Because if it truly is keeping you

674
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Speaker 4: up at night, your comportment could not be contained in

675
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Speaker 4: this moment, right, So their rhetoric doesn't match their behavior,

676
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Speaker 4: and it makes it impossible to believe in them because

677
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Speaker 4: you doubt whether they believe in themselves. Nobody wants to

678
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Speaker 4: follow that, So I you know, I share your frustration, Tiff.

679
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Speaker 4: I'm at the end of the day going to be

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Speaker 4: the pragmatisms basically say, so long as these are the

681
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Speaker 4: people who are negotiating how we exist in this space,

682
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Speaker 4: we need to have a weight on that thing. And

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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean we don't start filling some other buckets too,

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Speaker 4: but it absolutely means we do not unilaterally disarmed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, can I say something I thought was really

686
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Speaker 3: interesting last week, you and Angela disagreed about a path forward,

687
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Speaker 3: and I found myself conflicted because I'm like, I actually think, Andrew,

688
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Speaker 3: you have a point, But damn, Angela, I actually see

689
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Speaker 3: what you're saying. And I you know, I read the

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Speaker 3: comments and I thought the comments would be all one

691
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Speaker 3: way or another. I didn't know which way, but I'm like,

692
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Speaker 3: I think generally on this one, and I was I'll

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Speaker 3: take that back. I thought more people were going to

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Speaker 3: agree with Angela. I thought people like overwhelming were going

695
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Speaker 3: to agree with Angela. And what I saw was it

696
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Speaker 3: was really like people were really like, no, Andrew has

697
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Speaker 3: a point, like you make them do every possible thing,

698
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Speaker 3: and then other people were like, yes, Andrew is an

699
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Speaker 3: institutional we need to like fight, fight, fight, and fire.

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Speaker 3: And it was really interesting to me to see because

701
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Speaker 3: really I was just looking for my name and it

702
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Speaker 3: wasn't even there.

703
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Speaker 4: It was all.

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Speaker 3: But people had a lot of thoughts and feelings about it,

705
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Speaker 3: and I just thought, Wow, what an interesting snapshot. Obviously

706
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Speaker 3: it's not an official poll, it's not a scientific pole,

707
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Speaker 3: but what an interesting snapshot of where we are in

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Speaker 3: this moment, that this nuanced argument that you guys were

709
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Speaker 3: having these nuanced points that you were making. People felt

710
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Speaker 3: so strongly.

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Speaker 4: You feel like when we were in it.

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Speaker 1: But well, you know, but you know what though, it's

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Speaker 1: it is the argument and the discussion that people are

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Speaker 1: having everywhere. They're having it in party out, a party

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Speaker 1: on the heel, in the Congression offices, and caucus meetings

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Speaker 1: on their TV. Why arguing with the TV? It is?

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Speaker 1: It is where we are because people don't know what

718
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Speaker 1: to do because again, every formula that you would typically

719
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Speaker 1: go to is not working in this moment. I'm gonna

720
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Speaker 1: tell you another thing that happened last week we didn't

721
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Speaker 1: talk about because it was the same day of our show.

722
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Speaker 1: I was in New York. I did breakfast club and

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Speaker 1: Lenard asked me about Barack Obama and his comments at

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Speaker 1: this closed door fundraiser. I'm bringing up a point you're

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Speaker 1: gonna tie right back to Hunter. In this closed door meeting,

726
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Speaker 1: Barack Obama said that the Democrats are behaving like cowards, right,

727
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Speaker 1: and then the question was what do I think about

728
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Speaker 1: what he's saying for me? And I still feel this way.

729
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Speaker 1: People dragged me for filth. People who are my friends

730
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Speaker 1: went into the comments because they saw the breakfast club

731
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Speaker 1: header didn't hear what I said. Just heard that I

732
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Speaker 1: said Barack Obama needs to do more or something, which

733
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Speaker 1: is not what I said. I made them take that

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Speaker 1: down and like correct it because I was like this,

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Speaker 1: this isn't accurate and it's causing more reaping more have it.

736
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Speaker 1: It didn't even matter because people were still mad that

737
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Speaker 1: you could say, don't you I would say nothing bad

738
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Speaker 1: about Barack Obama. Doesn't even have to be bad. It's

739
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Speaker 1: just a criticism to me of what is so for

740
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Speaker 1: my purview, I'm going somewhere for my purview, I promise

741
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Speaker 1: you when you when we go to the Hunter Biden piece.

742
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Speaker 1: And the fact that Barack Obama was in the room

743
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Speaker 1: having conversations about who should be the nominee and Kamala

744
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Speaker 1: Harris was not on his list, I'm aware of that.

745
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Speaker 1: It's the fact that Barack Obama does have these meetings

746
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Speaker 1: with Washington based journalists ensuring that people are speaking a

747
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Speaker 1: certain language and about policy in a certain way. It

748
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Speaker 1: is the fact that Donald Trump just this week posts

749
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Speaker 1: a video of an AI video of Barack Obama being

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Speaker 1: arrested in the Oval.

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Speaker 8: Right.

752
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Speaker 1: So when I say that I expect more of them

753
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: in this moment that this Nobel Peace Prize winner, where

754
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Speaker 1: we would have had the same type of expectations of

755
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: Nelson Mandela in South Africa, I should not be dragged

756
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Speaker 1: for saying that I expect for you to call fascism fascism, right.

757
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: So for me, it's just interesting that in this moment

758
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: where we know the again, we know of things that

759
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: people don't know. But it's like if you talk about

760
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Speaker 1: the man who's on my church fan, if you talk

761
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: about the man sleeves up and goes to the rally

762
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Speaker 1: smooth saying amazing grace at you know, at at Mother

763
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Speaker 1: Emmanuel after this horrible massacre, I can't hold space for

764
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: the fact that he does some things well and something's

765
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: need correction. And that's frustrating to me.

766
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Speaker 3: You can't say I'm going somewhere. We're like, no, we wherever?

767
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Speaker 3: You going on the train with im?

768
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Speaker 1: Just like I'll take a minute to get there. That's all.

769
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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't see the clip and so I didn't

770
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Speaker 3: see the comments. But I think there is some protection

771
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: of Obama, you know, And I think people look for

772
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Speaker 3: clickbaits and they enjoy the anonymity of social media to

773
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Speaker 3: make these comments.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes, And I think because I get that on this show,

776
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: all of us probably get that on this show, where

777
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 3: it's like, why are you criticizing democrats like MAGA is

778
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: the only space that we should be criticizing right now.

779
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: And I understand that perspective too. So I'm not faulting

780
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Speaker 3: anybody for any of these.

781
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Speaker 4: If we don't do it right now, Lloyd Jesus, another

782
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: election is gonna come around and we're still gonna be

783
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Speaker 4: in La la land.

784
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Speaker 3: This is, this is my point.

785
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: In the honest conversations. Now, it's too late in an

786
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Speaker 4: election cycle.

787
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Speaker 3: Precisely Andrew precisely like now, and it is not only

788
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 3: our right but responsibility to critique our leaders.

789
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: I agree.

790
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: And you know Obama Black folks overwhelmingly showed up for Obama.

791
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: Black people put this man in office. And I understand

792
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Speaker 3: the feeling that there is a debt ode and I

793
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: think your frustration with Obama, Angela is the frustration that

794
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Speaker 3: many of us have with just us institutions across the board.

795
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 3: It's not just Obama. I mean, you could take that

796
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Speaker 3: and go across democratic leadership from our friends and otherwise.

797
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 3: So I my only thing is let's have that heat

798
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Speaker 3: for everybody, you know, I mean they were asking you

799
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Speaker 3: a specific question, but no, we ought to have that

800
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Speaker 3: heat for everybody if you can't stand up. First of all,

801
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Speaker 3: anytime we talk about in the news media, on Capitol

802
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Speaker 3: Hill wherever, anytime we talk about Steven Miller, who designed

803
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Speaker 3: this whole ice plan, it should be introduced that Steven Miller,

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00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: the white nationalist who was behind and then go wherever

805
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Speaker 3: you want to go. But we should not be talking

806
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Speaker 3: about him as though he's not a white nationalist like

807
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Speaker 3: because it makes people uncomfortable because it's not the white language.

808
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: We should not be talking about Milania Trump ever, and

809
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Speaker 3: not talk about the fact that she was a nude

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Speaker 3: model in a birther y. We it's like it's factually

811
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Speaker 3: accurate to say these things. And everyone has capitulated to

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Speaker 3: a system of whiteness, a system that prioritizes white comfort,

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00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: white language, everything. And respectfully to President Obama, who I

814
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Speaker 3: think we all love, you know, love and a door,

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Speaker 3: both he and Michelle Obama. But I think respectfully to them,

816
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Speaker 3: there are a significant amount of people who are looking saying, help,

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Speaker 3: you know, say something. We love your podcast, but we

818
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: don't want to hear about you know, some nebulous thing,

819
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Speaker 3: when people are dying, when people are being disappeared by

820
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Speaker 3: their government, when black women are joining the bread lines.

821
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Speaker 3: So it's not it's not so much like we're shitting

822
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Speaker 3: on them. We're saying, like, hey, we still need you.

823
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you guys remember that clip

824
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Speaker 3: from Michelle Obama when she said that she's done with like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna endoors another candidate. I'm not going to

826
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Speaker 3: get out there on the campaign trail. I don't begrudge

827
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Speaker 3: that in her because what I hear is hurt. But

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Speaker 3: I hear pain and disgust in her, and that is

829
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Speaker 3: the feeling I have. So it's hard for me to

830
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Speaker 3: hear that. It's because I'm like, girl, I get it,

831
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Speaker 3: like I get what I want to, but isn't there.

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Speaker 4: I want to separate the two of them, by the way, Okay, fair, fair,

833
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Speaker 4: I think they are not in the same bucket.

834
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Speaker 3: I agree at all, agree.

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Speaker 4: And part because one of them signed up for a thing,

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Speaker 4: and the others signed up to be a support and

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Speaker 4: a helpmate and a rib to that thing, to the

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Speaker 4: man pursuing that thing. And I think she is well,

839
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Speaker 4: Lord knows if she don't live now, when will she live? Right?

840
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Speaker 4: They are no longer sitting in that oval. She doesn't

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Speaker 4: have to put up with nonsense twenty four to seven

842
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Speaker 4: if she don't want to, and so live your best, better,

843
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 4: bestest life as far as I'm concerned, forever. First, lady,

844
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Speaker 4: she did Obama have a different set of expectations for

845
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Speaker 4: the man who got in the arena?

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Speaker 3: Well, what are your thoughts? And I want to put

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Speaker 3: this in here real quick.

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Speaker 1: She does have an organization though, also called when we

849
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Speaker 1: all vote? So is she got us for the right?

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to care.

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Speaker 4: About But if she decided do none of it, I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Saying you volunteer problems. And I'm not saying you gotta,

853
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Speaker 1: you gotta endorse candidates, but I beg you to not

854
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: just drop a Tiger Woods documentary when this man is

855
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: dating a Trump spouse or a former Trump spouse and

856
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Speaker 1: like this, and Tiger was just at the White House

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Speaker 1: for the Black History Month thing.

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Speaker 4: For okay, at one time, at once.

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Speaker 3: She said, but that's a whole other story. But I

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Speaker 3: just feel like sometimes when you get into those spaces,

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Speaker 3: you become so disconnected from community that you missed the

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Speaker 3: moment did you get to power?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what did girl do with Trump?

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Speaker 3: I talked about this.

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Speaker 4: Well, she was talking about Bezos. I as soon, yes

866
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Speaker 4: they are. No, she was basically given the examples of

867
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Speaker 4: these folks in their.

868
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Proximity proximity there.

869
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 4: Are, well they are is.

870
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: Like funding a lot of these Uh the this Trump

871
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: is like he is a supporter he anyway, that's.

872
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: And if nothing else, he's absolutely complicit in the whitewashing

873
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 4: of the story Washington Post.

874
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: And when Gail got in the camera was like, have

875
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: you ever been in space? If you ain't start, we're

876
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: going backwards. Fine. I want to hear from Andrew your

877
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: thoughts on Obama because I would keep trying. And I

878
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: went off, are mad, Andrew?

879
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: They're doing the documentary, but.

880
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: Why does she bring on Tiger? And I can't bring

881
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: up they're buying the documentary.

882
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: Their message to the world right now is y'all better

883
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: check out this bio pic.

884
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: Okay, fair, I'll get off.

885
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: There are a lot of moments Obama's production company Higher

886
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: found Okay, I'm done, what I'm mute?

887
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: And what are your thoughts on?

888
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: But they could do that, they could do that all

889
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: day long. I don't have no beef with it because

890
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 4: they were precluded from doing it before, and they're not

891
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: the grifters in chief like the Trumps who are sitting

892
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 4: at office uh stilling out loud. You know, Barack and

893
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 4: Michelle the Obama's respectively, are working for that. You know,

894
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 4: they work for the stuff. They earned their stuff. But

895
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 4: should the president again continue to be involved in the

896
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: mechanations of what ultimately we're all gonna have to confront,

897
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: whether that is who ought to be running in the primary,

898
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: who they plan to support, who are they giving legs

899
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 4: to behind the scenes, and then who are they trying

900
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 4: to kneecap behind the scene. If you're going to be

901
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 4: in that level of conversation and maneuvering of our politics,

902
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 4: then my request, you know, would simply be one. I

903
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: want you to have as much heat for other communities

904
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 4: as you have for our own when you are when

905
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 4: you do a takedown my brother, and you want to

906
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: make a message point clear to us, you know, you

907
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: have a way of delivering it and we have a

908
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: way of receiving it and then reacting to it. But

909
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: I never seem to since that same heat when it

910
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: comes to the white liberal elite. When it comes to

911
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 4: the liberal white donors, what they give money to and

912
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: how their qualifications are only in the field of having

913
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: given to these areas and never in the experience of

914
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: having been a practitioner. You think, because you give money

915
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 4: to a politician does not make you an analyst, It

916
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 4: doesn't make you a strategist, it doesn't make you a

917
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: campaign manager. It makes you probably a good campaign contributor

918
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: and loyal supporter if you can manage that much. And

919
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 4: if you're organizing knocking on doors outside of that, that's great.

920
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 4: But we have given way too much power to this

921
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: very liberal elite on the Democratic side, and nobody calls

922
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: them to the carpet. I want Hunter Biden from here too,

923
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 4: fourth in those rooms again thinking about ways in which

924
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 4: he can help impact tell the goddamn truth. So yes,

925
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 4: if you're going to be in those rooms, then carry

926
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 4: it with the full weight and responsibility that you have

927
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: as a former president and a leader and a visionary

928
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 4: for our party. Two, don't throw no, don't throw no

929
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 4: damn grenades and had your hand. Three Police, please be

930
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 4: honest with the people. Tell them that a thing is

931
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 4: a thing, and that we should not pretend not to

932
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 4: know what we all know. Just call it four.

933
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 3: Andrew Gilliams should be in those rooms every tag. Yeah,

934
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: I think, yes, I'm really unfortunate, and this could be

935
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: Andrew's choice. I don't know, uh if I'm not volunteering you,

936
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: but I do feel like the insight that you have

937
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: a ground game, a field game, communication, an understanding of policy.

938
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 4: If they don't want to hear from me, and let

939
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 4: me tell you why they still are treating my race

940
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 4: like an anomaly. Anytime one of us do something that

941
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: is extra than the ordinary, it's treated as culture personality,

942
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: very singular and its impact. And we almost always never

943
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 4: ever learn the lessons, the right lessons from a race

944
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: like the one that we had, because what did they

945
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 4: do right after is they went right back to the

946
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: former Republican dressed them up, you know, as best they

947
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 4: can again as a Democrat, through all the money that

948
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 4: they could at least harness at that time, trying to

949
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: out conservative or conservative. And when Republicans have a choice

950
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: between the real thing and the fake one, they go

951
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: with the real one every time. And I'm also willing

952
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: to bet when Democrats who are voters are out there,

953
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: when we have a choice between the real thing and

954
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: the fake one. We go with the real one all

955
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 4: the time. And so if you're still treating twenty eighteen

956
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: in Florida like it was an anomaly, the closest race

957
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 4: we've gotten short of winning, and that they're not important

958
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: lessons to take from it, that you're going to revert

959
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 4: every cycle afterwards back to the conservative Democrat, usually white,

960
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 4: usually male model, who is gonna get you thet's say.

961
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: You see, I just want to point out that Tiff

962
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: the people where Tiff is agree with what Andrew's saying

963
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: so bad they can't hear him in they are amen corner.

964
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: So we just want to shout there, can you hear

965
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 3: the people I'm about to go? Can we take a

966
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: quick prou No, I'm getting annoyed, don't do it. I'm

967
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: so it's okay, it's gonna be. I couldn't even hear it,

968
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: like of all the places you could be like, I'm here,

969
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: don't snap it.

970
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,959
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm good. It's good.

971
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: I think they can hear you.

972
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: Don't snap. You ain't got a five percent left your computer.

973
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 3: Listen. I got Bonnie, and I got Clyde and neither

974
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 3: one of them holes seconds. How dare you give me what.

975
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: They work for? You better use your kids.

976
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 3: Watch me, watch I'll be right.

977
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look here she goes.

978
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 3: All right, we can get back to business.

979
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 7: Now.

980
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 3: Let me see if you got still recording.

981
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: Yes, we're recording, and went out and.

982
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 3: Went like that.

983
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 4: He round, don't, don't don't friends on this damn TV station?

984
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 3: Can I we can. We can cut this if we want.

985
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 3: I would like to know there's something else. We can

986
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 3: cut this if we want. But I would like to

987
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: talk briefly about an email that I just saw.

988
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: No, hold on a minute, let's do that in the

989
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: mini pod. Let's finish this because one thing, one thing

990
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: we want that we want to do. Andrew, I love

991
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: what you were saying. I want to go quickly to

992
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: the points that I believe Tip was also making about courage.

993
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: You've always don't be sending me these emails if you

994
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: don't want to focus. I want to just say that, Andrew,

995
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 3: you've always deepened into courage, and your courage isn't always

996
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: loud and screaming on a bullhorn or anything like that.

997
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: Not that you're afraid of a bullhorn either. Our brother

998
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: is as a politician, a public servant, and a protester

999
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: when he needs to be well.

1000
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 4: Continue with our theme of the American justice system, we

1001
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 4: turned to the unfortunate scenario unfolding and the death of

1002
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 4: Breonna Taylor. Stay tuned for more on that.

1003
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: Speaking of the protest and deepening into courage, we had

1004
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: an administration that was willing at least somewhat to challenge

1005
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: law enforcement, especially when they were wrong. Breonna Taylor's killer,

1006
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: Brett Hankerson, was just Hankinson. Sorry, I said Hankerson. Hankerson

1007
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: was sentenced despite the Trump's Department of Justice seeking just

1008
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: one day, was sentenced to thirty three months in prison

1009
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: for killing a black woman. And while thirty three months

1010
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: is not sufficient, what we know is this is the

1011
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: first time in the federal government's history that it has

1012
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: ever brought a civil rights violation, a federal civil rights

1013
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: violation case to a police officer who's killed a black

1014
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 1: woman get a significant The sentence sucks, y'all. It is

1015
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: not sufficient. We should if you take a black woman's life,

1016
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: you should have to do more than less than three

1017
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: years in jail, right, But the fact that they were

1018
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: able to do that and this damn Department of Justice,

1019
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Trump's DOJ takes the case over and wants to essentially

1020
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: get rid of the sentence. What I'm deeping in into

1021
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: right now is my frustration that it is more than

1022
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: likely that Donald Trump will pardon this officer. Right, so,

1023
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: even when you see that we've justice is finally served,

1024
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: kind of right, because we're still only talking about less

1025
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: than three years. This is where we are right now.

1026
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about the need for courage

1027
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: and a time like this too, and what kind of

1028
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: hope can.

1029
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: We offer files I just want to my sincere prayer

1030
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 4: is that there is not a single person, and certainly

1031
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: not a single black woman, who decides to make any

1032
00:57:53,480 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 4: meaning of any meaningful nature to the statement that the

1033
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: Trump administration is clearly sending this racist overture, which is

1034
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 4: not even a it's no longer a dog whistle, it's

1035
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 4: a bullhorn. They're straight up yelling it from the mountaintop.

1036
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 4: This is who we are. Get used to it. The

1037
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 4: thing they, of course don't fathom is that we've always

1038
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 4: known that was who they were. We were playing along.

1039
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 4: But it's exceedingly clear right now that there ain't nothing

1040
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: about this administration that is intended to protect our human

1041
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: lives or to in any way value us as living, breathing, human,

1042
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 4: contributing members to this society. In the most suspicious and

1043
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 4: significant way. They don't care for us. They do not

1044
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 4: value our lives. This is not news. I hope for

1045
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 4: anybody on the listening side of this, and I hope

1046
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 4: that not one of us internalizes what they are attempting

1047
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: to communicate to us as anything meaning more than what

1048
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 4: we've always known it to be. They're diabolical, and so

1049
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: this is the kind of thing you would expect from

1050
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 4: a diabolical people. Is the recommendation that Breonna Taylor's life,

1051
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: regardless of the fact that this officer fired indiscriminately with

1052
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 4: no view into the home through the windows, through the doors,

1053
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 4: through the walls, and could have killed anybody, could have

1054
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: killed anybody, a child in that room, her partner. They

1055
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 4: don't value us, but I don't have the expectation that

1056
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 4: they ever will. What we have to do is continue

1057
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 4: to position ourselves so that we can continue to bend

1058
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 4: this moral arc right and hopefully, y'all, we'll be able

1059
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: to be on the receiving end of our body's work

1060
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 4: but like so much as true about our ancestors, most

1061
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 4: didn't become beneficiaries of what they labored.

1062
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,479
Speaker 1: We've been saying say her name in response to making

1063
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: sure they don't forget the name of the person whom

1064
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: they killed. And all we're seeking is for people to

1065
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: be able to say our name, so we can turn

1066
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: the corner and enter the room, right to be seen alive.

1067
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: So I would love to hear your thoughts about you know,

1068
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: where the judge ended with this sentence and what the

1069
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Trump administration was actually seeking with for that one day.

1070
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting Hopefully we'll have a guest on soon

1071
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: in the coming weeks from the DJ from Biden's d OJ.

1072
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: But what's interesting about this is the way the DJ

1073
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 3: has been reconfigured, particularly when you look at the Office

1074
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: of Civil Rights, but also just through and through even

1075
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 3: as you look at how they're eroding the US government.

1076
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 3: All agencies where there was an overwhelming amount of black

1077
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 3: women represented were disproportionately defunded. The DJ where the staff

1078
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 3: of people of color I think is like less than

1079
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Speaker 3: one percent or not less than one percent. I'm sorry,

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: it's mostly white men. They cut funding by less than

1081
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Speaker 3: one percent at the DJ and they have reconfigured it

1082
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 3: to classify white people as the precisely, they have reconfigured

1083
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: it to classify white people as the aggrieved class. And

1084
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 3: so when the sentencing when when initially when they were

1085
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: asking for a one day sentence, I've lost my ability

1086
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: to be shocked, you know, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense.

1087
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: I we talk often on this show that the courts

1088
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: will not hold Donald Trump appointed over two hundred, mostly

1089
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 3: white men, mostly legally inept people to lifetime appointments. Now

1090
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 3: Joe Biden surpassed that, so there's some hope. I just

1091
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 3: don't know that that is going to save us, and

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01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 3: so I'm not sup any of this. Angela. I've been hearing.

1093
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: I haven't followed closely, but I have been hearing the

1094
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: chatter that he will likely pardon this officer. We've also

1095
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: talked about this with Derek Chauvin, which I know there

1096
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 3: are state charges there. So I just I can't stomach

1097
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 3: all of it. I can't take the incoming all the time.

1098
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: But the constant message that we're getting in this country

1099
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 3: or black women don't matter, our bodies don't matter, and

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01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: it's not I'm saying black women in particularly and not

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01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: including black men, because we sit at the intersection of

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 3: the sexism that we see and the racism that we see.

1103
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: Our bodies do not matter when it comes to health

1104
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 3: issues that disproportionately impact black women. Who gives a shit.

1105
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 3: There are no funding for that, no pink ribbons for

1106
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 3: things that disproportionately impact us when it comes to our income,

1107
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 3: our finance level, and for this particular woman, I would

1108
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: encourage anybody if you haven't so, please read what happened

1109
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 3: to night Brehanna Taylor was killed murdered. Ton of Haseea

1110
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 3: Coats did a great artic. I think it was her

1111
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 3: vanity fair. But if you google tan of Hoseea Coats

1112
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 3: and Breonna Taylor, he talks to her mom and her

1113
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 3: mom walks through what happened that night. Her mom for hours,

1114
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: did not know that her daughter was dead. For hours,

1115
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: nobody talked to her. She was going from one location

1116
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 3: to the next, asking well, can somebody give me an

1117
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 3: update on my daughter? Are losing our children doesn't matter.

1118
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 3: So these are the things that are making me despondent.

1119
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: And I just want to add this piece. I wish

1120
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: everybody would read asado with me, because I want to

1121
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. But when Asada Shakur

1122
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: was in the hospital bed after being falsely accused, beaten, bloodied,

1123
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 3: chained to a bed, and these these things still happen.

1124
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 3: They still chain black women. If you're pregnant in labor,

1125
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, they chain you to a bed. The police

1126
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 3: officers will come and punch her in her wounds, and

1127
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 3: they would also take their fingers and stab her in

1128
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: the eye with their fingers with a hot substance on it,

1129
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,439
Speaker 3: so her eyes would burn so she couldn't see. And

1130
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 3: there is physical violence that we endure, but what we're

1131
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: talking about with Breonna Taylor is the structural violence that

1132
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: we endure. I don't know how we survived this. We

1133
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 3: will survive it. Not everybody, though, And that's I keep

1134
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 3: reminding people of that, like, yeah, we survived, said, well, right,

1135
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 3: it's not everybody. We survived enslavement, but not everybody, And

1136
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: so she was somebody who didn't survive this moment. And

1137
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 3: to relive this now, it's just I just I feel

1138
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 3: it with so much rage and sadness. Sadness first, and

1139
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: the sadness falls into a callus of rage. I just

1140
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do, Guys, I really don't.

1141
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 3: I don't know what happens next. What will we do

1142
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: if they if they pardon the police officer, then then

1143
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: what comes next? Are we gonna riot again? And I

1144
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 3: will tell you this is they eclip it if they

1145
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 3: want to. I am a person I believe that riots

1146
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 3: are a language that gets a response, and under this administration,

1147
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I don't know that holding hands

1148
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 3: and singing Kumbaya gets the same response as the white

1149
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 3: man's money. I'm not encouraging writing because at this point

1150
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 3: they can turn the military against us and start shooting.

1151
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: But I just don't know what where do we take

1152
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 3: our outrage?

1153
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I think we have to one stop pretending

1154
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 4: as normal. I think we have to I think each

1155
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 4: of this has to be treated with the level of

1156
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: seriousness that we feel it. If we had no reaction

1157
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 4: to a pardon by this president of this murderous man

1158
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 4: of black women, shame on us, because we then create

1159
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: a permission structure by which they can do the shit

1160
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 4: again and again and again with no anticipation for a

1161
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 4: pushback from us. So no, we have to be righteously

1162
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 4: indignant this time and every time, because say their names

1163
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 4: mean the names keep changing. A new target, a new person,

1164
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: a new family, a new child, spouse, mother is impacted.

1165
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: So every time and every time, we have to show

1166
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: rage every time so that they hear, they so that

1167
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 4: they know that they can't keep passing this way with

1168
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: no pushback. You can't keep doing this thing, thumping us

1169
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 4: on the head and thinking that you're not gonna get

1170
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 4: pushed in pushing in a thoat next time because they

1171
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 4: don't consider us. So we we we we, yes, we

1172
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 4: must respond, but this response has to be tilted toward accountability.

1173
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: So however we show our anger. Yes, let's do it,

1174
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 4: but we need to know what accountability day is coming.

1175
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 1: And I think who we're throwing and on that sorry

1176
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: tip on that on accountability day is coming in our

1177
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: accountability is the show's gonna rap very soon. We got

1178
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: to new cause of action, but before we get there,

1179
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: we're to take a quick time out so Tiff can say, yes.

1180
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 3: I was just about to say, can we go because

1181
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 3: my computer? So yeah, for those of you know, I'm

1182
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 3: gonna hang on until it.

1183
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: Dies, okay, and Tiff is if y'all are watching it

1184
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: listening at home, tips computers hanging on by very thin thread.

1185
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have tips call to action first, just

1186
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: in case you don't make it through.

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01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 3: My call to action is just to stay sane, not

1188
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 3: to let them steal our imagination. I don't have a

1189
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 3: meteor call to action because I've been so caught up

1190
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: and trying to run from depression and sadness and the darkness.

1191
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1192
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: And even that is exhausting, you know, It's like you

1193
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: feel the heaviness coming on. And I am reading less

1194
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: papers these days and more books and just trying to

1195
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 3: spend my time just in in in the light and

1196
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 3: not so much in the darkness. So if y'all have

1197
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: any tips for me or tips that y'all do to

1198
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: just keep yourself saying these days, I remain open. I'm

1199
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 3: not a SPA person. They're ready to go to the SPA.

1200
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: I'm not a SPA person. But anything that you're doing,

1201
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: that's that's keeping you from stealing on the next person

1202
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: that says something that's how I feel.

1203
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: Uh.

1204
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: And just because I have the MIC, I just want

1205
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: to say a really quick congratulations to the Mario Solomon

1206
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: Simmons who won his case against the Creek Nation it

1207
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: was a situation where the indigenous community was denying Black

1208
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 3: Creek Nation members membership, and so in this victory, Uh,

1209
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: he's literally saving lives because they will have access to

1210
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 3: life saving benefits just as the government is taking them away.

1211
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 3: Angela will correct me if I got any of that

1212
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: wrong legally, but.

1213
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,719
Speaker 1: Maria will likely join us next week. Ag what you got?

1214
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 4: I love it? We got it? Okay. My real quick

1215
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 4: is I was asked yesterday what is the advice that

1216
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm giving my sons in light of the latest incident

1217
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 4: that was made public It dates back to February but

1218
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 4: in Duval County, Jacksonville, Florida, where the young man was

1219
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 4: roughed up, punched in the face, the police hit out

1220
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 4: the window all because he was asking what was legally

1221
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 4: allowable for him to ask, which is why you pulled

1222
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: me over. That's supposed to be the first thing that's

1223
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 4: declared when you are stopped, is the reason being given?

1224
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 4: And then am I under arrest or resist a citation?

1225
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 4: And his basic questions were met with the most brutal

1226
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 4: attack from law enforcement. And by the way, y'all, this

1227
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 4: is all happening under a black republic. Male sheriff, who

1228
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 4: is about as bad as the same creatures that he

1229
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 4: basically said acted within the authority and the scope of

1230
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 4: their responsibility as a law enforcement entity. So I would

1231
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 4: just say, we have to revisit what advice we are

1232
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: giving our children. It used to be pretty formed that

1233
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 4: we knew how to comport ourselves around law enforcement. And

1234
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 4: my cliff knows. Version of what I'm telling my kids

1235
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 4: is basically, we're gonna get the justice. You believe that,

1236
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 4: but in this moment, I need you to survive. And

1237
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 4: so these are the things that we're going to pay

1238
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 4: attention to for survival, and then Daddy and Mama and

1239
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: our village will get justice on the other side of

1240
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 4: you surviving this incident. And I just would like folks

1241
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: to revisit this conversation with their children.

1242
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I make a request because this is such

1243
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 3: a it's all over social media. If we've been talking

1244
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 3: about it, I think it deserves more conversation than the CTA.

1245
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: So maybe this is something we can talk about on

1246
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 3: the mini pod or a later episode. But would love

1247
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: to revisit this because I the pain, even in your

1248
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: voice Andrew of saying and that so many parents say

1249
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 3: that like, I just want you to come home. It

1250
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what, let me deal with it, you come home.

1251
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: So I would love to pick that up if we can.

1252
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 1: It is definitely a weighty and emotional topic again, especially

1253
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,759
Speaker 1: given the backdrop of Breonna Taylor and how that situation

1254
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: could have gone for mister McNeil junior I believe is

1255
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: his name. I speaking of the village that Andrew just

1256
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: brought up. I want to deepen us into what it

1257
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: means to stand up mutual aid networks. You can start

1258
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: with your neighborhood and your pods. Who are the people

1259
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: when it all goes down, if the electricity goes out,

1260
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: that you're going to talk to to make sure that

1261
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: everybody's safe in your neighborhood, in your family? What are

1262
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 1: the phone numbers you know by heart? Where are the

1263
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: places where you can go see? I can pick BlackBerry's

1264
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 1: up my street, but I can't pick much else. So

1265
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: I got to figure out some other solutions. I want

1266
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: you to think about your neighborhood pods and who has

1267
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: what gifts and talents? Are there five people that you

1268
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,879
Speaker 1: can call on who do different things? Is there somebody

1269
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: who fixes things? Who knows how to be handy if

1270
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 1: the electricity goes out. Someone who has a military background

1271
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: that can help you with some basic survival incincts. Who

1272
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: can help y'all organize emergency bags to go, a water supply,

1273
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: emergency food. The other thing that I would suggest is

1274
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: tapping into the local farmers in your area and figuring

1275
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:48,520
Speaker 1: out some type of bartering system. This sounds like doomsday, armageddon,

1276
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: end of the world. And I will tell y'all the

1277
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: reason why this is top of mind for me is

1278
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: my mom and I were waiting for my dad to

1279
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: meet us at this restaurant the other day in Madison

1280
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: Park in Seattle. The electricity completely went out and my

1281
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: mom looks at me and she says, ang, they attacked

1282
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: the grid, and she was convinced. Right our phones weren't working,

1283
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: nothing was working. So what I'm saying to you is

1284
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 1: this is closer than it may appear. And again, don't

1285
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: want you to be doomsday, but I do want you

1286
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 1: to be prepared. There was a very cheesy, awful slogan

1287
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: that came from Secretary shirt Off under George Bush, the

1288
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: first Department of Homeland Security secretary. He said, be prepared,

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Speaker 1: not scared. This is going to be the first and

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Speaker 1: last time you ever hear me quote Secretary Churttop. But

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Speaker 1: I do think that that is indeed the point. And

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Speaker 1: so if we can get prepared and know that we

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Speaker 1: will survive, Andrew to your point, I think that will

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Speaker 1: be all right.

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Speaker 3: I just can I make a quick fact tech you

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Speaker 3: can tell me if I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: Tom Ridge was the first DHSC I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: You're right, You're right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot about it.

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Speaker 1: Churchtop was care not here, but he yes, still remember that,

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Speaker 1: George H. W. Bush. But you're right, and Tom Ridge

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Speaker 1: is you're correct? My bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the Pennsylvania governor.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, when you get your bags,

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Speaker 1: get your best.

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Speaker 3: I ain't heard that name shirts off in so long,

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Speaker 3: and I forgot all about that. That's how old we

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Speaker 3: get in y'all. Because I'm like, I do remember that.

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Speaker 3: Just when you're saying, don't be dooms, they don't be scared,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know, girl, Like I think we

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Speaker 3: should be a little well, I think prepared.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a different and maybe this is

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Speaker 1: just the distinction I should make. I think there's one

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Speaker 1: thing to be clear eyed about what we're up against.

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Speaker 1: I think there's another doomsday to me, means well, forget it.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing we could do. It's just gonna die. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whereas I'm saying, no, here are some tactical things that

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Speaker 1: you can do that mayfield because when I'm saying establish

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Speaker 1: a mutual aid network, well what does that really mean?

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Speaker 1: So if you can identify five people in your neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with y'all. You guys can hold

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Speaker 1: me account. But this I don't talk to none of

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Speaker 1: my neighbors. So I'm gonna have some work to do.

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Speaker 1: But we may be in a situation we got to

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Speaker 1: lean on each other. So just say, hey, y'all, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what your gifts are. I can cook,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If you guys got one of them

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Speaker 1: little burners that operate on the fire outside, I can

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Speaker 1: hook y'all up in that regard. I got some cast irons, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: what can we do? Who was in the military, who

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Speaker 1: you know, worked for the federal government, it does whatever

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Speaker 1: it is, Who does how to do cold who got

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Speaker 1: a satellite phone? Whatever it is? Just find your tribe

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Speaker 1: and rock.

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Speaker 3: With so many people. When we have the doomsday expert

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Speaker 3: on so many survivalist, survivalist AFRO, so many people afrovivalists,

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Speaker 3: so many people were saying, No, I'm good, I didn't

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Speaker 3: fall a long enough.

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Speaker 4: No, it's gonna have to take it.

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Speaker 3: They were not feeling it. I don't have a plan though,

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Speaker 3: when you when you step up, like I don't talk

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Speaker 3: to my neighbors. But my only plan Michael here, who

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Speaker 3: I am?

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Speaker 1: What if you?

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Speaker 3: Is what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 4: But I'm so.

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Speaker 3: Proud and jealous because Michael Harriet. His book is over

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Speaker 3: a year old, and it keeps popping up on the

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Speaker 3: New York Times bestseller list. They have never Michael and

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Speaker 3: his wife have never invited me to their home. They've

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Speaker 3: never said, Tiffany, come stay with us. And I've been

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Speaker 3: there about five times now. They are my doomsday plan.

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Speaker 3: Like I if I can't get on the plane, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not to drive, I'm abot to hit.

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Speaker 1: You have to walk, you like walking Hell, you have

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Speaker 1: to walk to Georgia.

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Speaker 3: I will walk, I will walk.

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Speaker 4: But y'all, it's it's we're saying doomsday because it seems

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Speaker 4: it seems so rare and like not going to happen

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Speaker 4: during our lifetime. But you know, as you rightly, I

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Speaker 4: think we're leading us to Angela the assaults. The attacks

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Speaker 4: are less militarized, you know, going forward and into the future.

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Speaker 4: These are these are much more what we might think

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Speaker 4: as benign, but they're logistics. It's airplane and those satellites

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Speaker 4: being shuttered, and then pilots are not knowing whether they're

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Speaker 4: going into the sky or into the ocean. It is

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Speaker 4: traffic signalization that much of it cooperates on a grid system.

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Speaker 4: It's power plants being not shuttered. They can continue to operate,

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Speaker 4: but all of the calculations around its output are shuttered,

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Speaker 4: and so you basically end up creating nuclear bombs out

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Speaker 4: of these facilities that are then generating too much if

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Speaker 4: they don't have a felt set turn off you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: I know we're cutting out of here, but I just

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Speaker 4: want folks to know this is not so remote a

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Speaker 4: set of possibilities as you might think. These are logistical.

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Speaker 4: It feels like every day benign, But just think about

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Speaker 4: what happens when you can't get fresh well, you can't

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Speaker 4: get water out of the water at the sink because

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Speaker 4: it's been contaminated because somebody manufactured and played with the formulas.

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Speaker 3: Of twenty people are like, millions of people are going

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Speaker 3: through that right now, and I know we've got a

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Speaker 3: hop So I just want to say the doomsday clock,

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Speaker 3: if you're not familiar, is it's a symbol that represents

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Speaker 3: the estimated likelihood of some sort of man made global catastrophe.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of people follow the doomsday clock. The

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Speaker 3: doomsday clock right now says it is eighty nine seconds

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Speaker 3: until midnight.

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Speaker 4: So it shifts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it shifts as it assesses threats, and as of

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Speaker 3: I think January twenty twenty five, eighty nine seconds to midnight.

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Speaker 3: So on that happy note, thanks, and we'd like to

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