1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Hell, I need somebody, not just anybody, you know, I 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: need someone, Ronan. It's a machine. It still needs service, 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: it still needs basic maintenance. The fact, the car Doctor, 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: I really think the car companies are starting to figure 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: out they've got to make things last less mileage in 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: order to increase sales, because it's all a sales thing. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: So they're lion tours lighting up practice. Welcome to the 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: radio home of ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since this 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 11 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 13 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five six, and 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: now he running. You know, it's it's I don't know 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: to begin, you know, it's it's sort of like you're 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: not supposed to say stupidity. It's not a nice word, 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: but stupidity takes stupidity in order to repair really takes 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: a new form in the last couple of years. And 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: it's just every time I turn around, you look at 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: it and you go, really, I don't think I could 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: do my job without that word. Really, you just look 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: at it and go, huh, really, there's a lot of 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: ways you can use that. Customer walked in this week. 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: He's got a twenty sixteen jeep wrangler, all right. And 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I know Bill a lot of years. We actually went 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: to high school together a million years ago, when dirt 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: was invented and God was young and Jesus was a teenager, 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: and and you know, he called me up one day 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, listen, the washer bottle and the 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: jeep broke. And my son, who's twenty one, wanted to 31 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: try and fix it on his own, and he bought one. 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: But then he looked at it and he said, I 33 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: can't change this. So I'm wondering if maybe you could 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: take it to the mechanic and let him do it. 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, how hard could it be to change of 36 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: washer bottle? What's involved? Here on the other side of 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: me went uh row right. So Bill walked in yesterday morning, 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: Friday morning with a washer bottles. You what a washer 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: bottle looks like on a jeep, Like washer bottle, plastic 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: bottle hangs on the fender, right, Fill it up with 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: washer fluid, you know stuff, Spritz is out the whole thing. No, 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: when you lift lift the next time you lift the 43 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: hood of a jeep, look at the right side fender wheel. 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: You gotta washer bottle. You got the A B S 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: control motor. You've got the main engine computer all bolted 46 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: sitting there in a row on the right side, that 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: whole right side piece of molding. I mean, the washer 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: bottle was three ft long, three and a half feet long. 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: It's it's this big giant plastic. It's everything. So to 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: put a washer bottle in this jeep, all right, which 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: the bottle assembly was a hundred and sixty for a 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: big chunk of plastic, which we threw out. It's now 53 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: in the recycled pile for for next week, all right. 54 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, buying a new car means you get 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: to throw it away one piece at the time. That's 56 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: the only privilege you learned. And you know, lift up 57 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: the A B S controller, disconnect the main engine computer, 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: disconnect the main chassis ground. You know, the list goes 59 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: on and on to change a washer bottle. And and 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: here's the joke of it, right, So where the washer 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: bottle was leaking was where the washer pump sits into 62 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: the bottom of the bottle. There's a little white grammet 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: there and that gramic gets rock hard and it starts 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: to it starts it allows fluid to pass. They didn't 65 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: give the customer that, or they didn't the customer didn't 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: know what they ask for it. That Chrysto doesn't sell 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: it that way. You have to buy it separately. You know. 68 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Stupidity takes a lot of forms. Like I said, where 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: this conversation begin. You sit there and you look at 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things and go really try it tonight, 71 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, when you're at dinner, Try that tonight with 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: your partner. You're sitting there listening to them talk and 73 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: just look at them. You want to you want to 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: see dramatic effect and they have. Now Now you can 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: only use this. This is like the power of and 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: you can only and when you go really just be 77 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: prepared to talk because it might not be at the 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: right moment. But it does work really well with auto 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: repair that I can tell you. So, I, you know, 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: disconnected everything. And I made one one fatal error when 81 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: I did this, and I didn't think I missed one step. 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what it is in a minute. 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: So I took everything apart and you know we had 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: to take the tire off, how to take the inner 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: fender well out to get to the bolts for the 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: for this tray assembly? All right, And I hate disconnecting computers. 87 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: You know, the computer is happy, leave it alone, it's working. 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Now I gotta disconnected. I gotta disturb it. I've got 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: to disconnect the main engine ground. You know, you just 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: go why why? I mean, you know, you can't really. 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: So I get it all put back together, all bolts up, 92 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Everything's fine, everything's working. And then I said, gee, I 93 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: wonder what the rear wiper motor does because I haven't 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: tried the rear wipers. I didn't think of that. The 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: rear wiper doesn't work. So now I'm back to the 96 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: drawing board. I'm thinking, did I miss the step? Did I? 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: And then the answer was right in front of me. 98 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: And you know again, order repairs a mental thing. You 99 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: make mental mistakes. Right. It's a hard top. A hard 100 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: tip vehicle on a jeep means that there's a soft top, 101 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: which means in the summer the hard top comes off. 102 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean the summer, the hard top comes off and 103 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: he drives around with a soft top bott of the 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: top down. They didn't know when I told the customer 105 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: because they had bought this and I hadn't seen them 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: in a while, and they bought it and they said, oh, yeah, 107 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the real wiper doesn't work. And I found out they 108 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: didn't connect it because when you put the hard top on, 109 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: you have to plug the harness and for the hard 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: top for the wiper motor. So it's just you be 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: careful of the steps you miss, because sometimes it's they 112 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: were a real killer. But sometimes I'm the stupid one, 113 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: you know. But you know, not for the lack of trying. 114 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I'll show you I'll be the stupidest thing on the planet. 115 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: But really, I mean, what engineer you know who designed that? 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: Who thought of that? Let's make everything everything out of 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: plastic and then just have to remove you know, the 118 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: A B has controllers, the main engine computers five hundred bucks. 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: We're fulling around with two thousands worth of electronics, and 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to be gentle, You're trying not 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: to disturb the A B S controller. You know, thank 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: god you're able to lift it up a little bit 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: and sneak the tray in and out. Could you imagine 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: having to bleed, an A B S controller and the 125 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: system to put a washer bottle in. There'll be a 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: lot of people driving around with dirty windshields, I gotta 127 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: tell you. But you know Chrysler company, how they recommends 128 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: you start learning engine repair. Now I understand why. Let's 129 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: get over and talk to UH. I got to Steve. 130 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to Stephen, Maryland thirteen, Honda Civic. Yes, Steve, 131 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: how can I help? Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 132 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. Yes, sir, thanksually taking my call. You're welcome. 133 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: I have a Honda Civic Hybrid, which I like very much. 134 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: The brake fluid replacement is now due, okay, and I'd 135 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: like to do that at home. The only question I 136 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: have about it is back in the old days, I 137 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: was able to do that very simply because you didn't 138 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: have A B S connected to the older cars. But 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: now you have a B S and I'm wondering, how 140 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: do I replace this fluid at home and also replace 141 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: the UH I'm sorry, the brake fluid. UH. I want 142 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: to replace the blake break fluid, but I don't know 143 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: how to replace the the A B S break fluid. 144 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: That's my question. Okay. So you're talking about if you 145 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: bleed the system, will you change the fluid that's in 146 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the A B S controller as well? It's another way 147 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: to say, that's another way to ask the same question. Right, 148 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: So you know, fair points. So I'm gonna explain to 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: you how to do it, and then I'm gonna talk. 150 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna talk you out of it, all right, 151 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: if I can. So get ready? All right? Um, do 152 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: you uh you know? Do you do you like going 153 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to Burger Kingram McDonald's one or the other. You don't 154 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: want to fast food joints. So go out to your 155 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: favorite fast food restaurant in order a large soda, all right, Um, 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: throw the soda away, and then take the plastic cup 157 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: that they gave it to you in and and take 158 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: that home. All right. Then you're gonna take a coil 159 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: of rubber hose stop at your local order parts store, 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: and you know, the smaller diameter stuff, something that will 161 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: fit over the head of the bleeder and make a 162 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: good positive seal, all right. And you're the right on 163 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the wheel locations, right caliper or wheel cylinder or whatever 164 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: it might be. And the idea, the idea here is 165 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: that you're gonna take a coil of rubber hose. You're 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna coil, yeah, a couple of three four turns like 167 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: a pigstail, and drop it down into the bottom of 168 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: the soda cup, all right, And then I get a 169 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: binder clip. I've I've modified this over the years. I 170 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: used to I used to leave the binder clip out, 171 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: but I found the binder clip does help. I get 172 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: a binder clip, one of those black spring clips, and 173 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I and I clipped the hose to the top of 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: the cup so it doesn't pull out, because sometimes the 175 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: rubber hoses all sprung up from being on the reel 176 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: for so long, because nobody uses rubber vacuum wine for 177 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: anything anymore anyway, and um, it falls out. So the 178 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: binder clip kind of helps. And you make the other 179 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: end long enough so that you can, you know, get 180 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: the car up in the air on jack stands, pull 181 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: the four wheels all right, and put the cup. You 182 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: fill the bottom of the cup up, you know, half 183 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: inch maybe three quarters of an inch of fluid, but 184 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: so that it completely covers the bottom of the hose 185 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: that's laying in there. And you attach the other end 186 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: to the bleeder, open the bleeder and get in the vehicle, 187 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: fill the Master. You might you know, you might want 188 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: to get a turkey based or suck the Master out. 189 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: If you can fill it with fresh fluid. Make sure 190 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: it's the right fluid. It should be dot three, but 191 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: double check. I don't think there's silicon. Well, it can't 192 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: be silicone if it's if it's an abs car um 193 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, but dot three it's it's probably not likely 194 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: dot for it will say right on the Master cylinder, 195 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: what fluid goes? Some good dot three fluid? Yeah, dot 196 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: three and just you know, you want to suck out 197 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: what's in the Master as much as you can fill 198 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: it with fresh and then open the bleeder, put it 199 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: on the caliper, and we usually start with the left 200 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: front check procedure for your car, but usually I still 201 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: go left front, left rear, right rear, right front. I 202 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: work my way around the car. And you're gonna with 203 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: the bleeder open, You're gonna stroke the pedal all the 204 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: way down, all the way down, all the way up, 205 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: all the way down, all the way up, I don't know, 206 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: eight times, ten times. The ideas you're just pushing flew 207 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: it out when when you let off the pedal, you're 208 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: gonna be drawing fluid back in. Here are the caveats, 209 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: all right. It's it's got to be a good tight 210 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: seal around the bleeder where the hose attaches, all right, 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and the bleeder has to be in good enough condition 212 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: that it doesn't wobble in the boar, you know, it's 213 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: it's threads so that it doesn't let air leak pass that. Now, 214 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll take that bleeder out all the way and 215 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I'll pack it with wheel bearing grease and put it 216 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: back in. And it's not gonna make it tighter, but 217 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: the grease around the head of the threads will, you know, 218 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: kind of help seal it, all right, and I'll just 219 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: I'll just repeat that process all the way around the 220 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: vehicle until I get finally get all good clean fluid 221 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: out and having a helper here, Boy, this pays tremendous dividends. 222 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: And it's kind of exciting to see the dirty, crummy, 223 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: cruddy fluid being pushed into the clean fluid and watch 224 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: the clean fluid turn black and you go, well, my 225 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: brake fluid was really dirty, all right. And one of 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: the things I always encourage people to do if they 227 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: haven't done this in a while. Is after each wheel, 228 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: ask the helper how does the pedal feel? How does 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: the pedal feel? All right? Keep working, because when you 230 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: get to the one where he goes, hey, the pedal 231 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: doesn't feel so good. That's the one where something went 232 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: wrong and you drew erin all right, and then you're 233 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: gonna have to bleed it by hand. Sposed to close 234 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: the bleeder before I have let off of the brake pedal? Yes, well, no, no, no, no, no, 235 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: You're gonna stroke the pedal a good eight or ten times, 236 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: then close the bleeder and then ask him how does 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: the pedal feel. The idea is you're using the system 238 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: hydraulics to push fluid out out of the master, down 239 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: past the A B S controller, down past the caliper, 240 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: and out into the cup. That's the idea, all right, 241 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: the pedal, it's going to suck it right back in. Well, 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: it's in theory it's sucking in fresh fluid, or it's 243 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: sucking in different portions of the cup. Over time, you're 244 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna take dominance and eventually push all the dirty fluid 245 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: out and have nothing left but clean. Keeping an eye 246 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: on the fluid level and the master. All right, it 247 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: does work, you'll see. All right. Now, one one note 248 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: of caution. I'll tell you what. Let me pull over, 249 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: take a pause, stay put. When I come back, I'll 250 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: finish this up and we'll I want to make sure 251 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: we cover this in detail. Don't go anywhere, Ron and 252 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: any of the car, doctor, or back right after this, 253 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: whether it's a little red Corvette or you go. You've 254 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 255 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: Ron and in the car doctor eight five five zero 256 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: zero zero. Now backter on, Steve. You're still there, yeah, sir, okay. 257 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: So the idea is you're stroking the pedal. Bleeders open. 258 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: When you're done, close the bleeder, check the pedal pedal 259 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: should be good, is as good or better, et cetera. 260 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: The ideas you're gonna catch where you know, if you've 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: induced air into the system, at least you know what 262 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: wheel to start with. That makes sense so far, okay, 263 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: And then obviously keeping an eye on the master, keeping 264 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: the Master full, and you just slowly work your way 265 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: around the car. Now, sometimes some vehicles give you the 266 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: option of an A B. S bleed And I don't 267 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: keep it in my head, but I I am aware 268 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: of it. I will look through a scan tool and 269 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: see is there an A B S bleed process? And 270 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: it's a good idea to include this as part of 271 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a flush. And that's why I'm gonna try and talk 272 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: you out of this, because you don't have that capability. Obviously, 273 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: you don't have a scan tool, and if you did, 274 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: it's probably O B D two. I don't know if 275 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: it's your make model. But even so, to do that 276 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: at home in the driveway, you know, without proper tooling, 277 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: I think you're only doing half the job without doing 278 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: some kind of an abs bleed, and I don't feel 279 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: like you're going to really accomplish what you need to accomplish. 280 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Because here's why. Have you gotten any quotes about doing 281 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: a break flush on this car? No? I haven't. It's 282 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: it's a hundred bucks, a hundred fifty bucks, you know, 283 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: it's it's probably an hours. It's an hour of shop 284 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: time and some break fluid. So it's right around you know, 285 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty dollars tax like you know is that? 286 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not trying to talk you out of 287 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: working on your car, but I I think about safety. 288 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I think about you know, using my time to my 289 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: best advantage. I can think of tons of projects for 290 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: you to work on the car if you want to 291 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: get you know that that Saturday car field where you're 292 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: worked on your car as a kid. Um, you know, 293 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: wash the thing, wax the thing, check tire pressure, you know, 294 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: change wiper blades, clean the inside of the glass. You know, 295 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: there's a hundred things you can do, but this, you know, 296 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: this is a critical dimension because it's your safety. It's 297 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: the longevity of not just the brake system, but just 298 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: as important the A B S controller. And it's doing 299 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: it right so that you don't damage something electronic or 300 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: mechanical or hydraulic and and create a bigger issue. That 301 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: makes sense. You know if this was if this was 302 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: a thousand dollar procedure, yeah, I kind of get it. 303 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: Um you know, I'll tell you like this, the day 304 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: is gonna come where ron doesn't work on cars anymore. 305 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: And you know it's because of things like this and 306 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: and and simple little things like this that can lead 307 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: you down the primrose path to the wrong place. Um 308 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: uh and get you in trouble because you don't have 309 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: the right tooling. That's my concern. Okay, Scanning tool to 310 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: do well because because you're gonna use the A B 311 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: S or the scan tool has the ability to cycle 312 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:59,359 Speaker 1: the VALVNG inside the A B S control assembly. And 313 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: and you know, if this was a typical this is 314 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: a typical GM product, it's you know, bleed the system, 315 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: bringing up on the scan tool, hold the pedal, push 316 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: the button on the scan tool. While you're pushing down 317 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: on the pedal, the pedal vibrates because it's it's it's 318 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: pulsing the pedal. It's or it's pulsing the A B 319 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: S controller and it's it's cycling the hydraulic valels um. 320 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Does Honda have that procedure? I think I've seen it 321 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: on a few and that's why I'm skeptical to try this. 322 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: If we want to really do this, you want to 323 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: just you want to just flush and bleed the system 324 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: without going through the A B S controller. You could, 325 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: but it's kind of like changing oil on a car 326 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: without changing the filter. You're only getting out of a 327 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: portion of the fluid, not all of it. So aren't 328 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: aren't you better off doing it? All right? You know? 329 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask you this question. Do you 330 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: have a good local mechanic or somebody that you've been 331 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: taking the car too, that you trust. Well, I'll probably 332 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: take it to the Honda dealer if I have them 333 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: to have them replace the entire break fluid. Yeah, and I, 334 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: like I said, I don't think it'll be more than 335 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: a fifty bucks. Get a quote, all right, explain to 336 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: explain to the guy what you're after, all right, and uh, 337 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, I just I just you know. The other 338 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: question I've got is do you have jack stands and 339 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: all that to remove the tires and put it up 340 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: in the air. Yes, I do, all right, so you're 341 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: you're halfway there. Um uh. Sometimes it's better to let 342 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: you know somebody with the tooling do it, because otherwise 343 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: it becomes more of a complicated headache. All right, Okay, sir, 344 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: good luck to you. You're welcome. Hoye By. I don't 345 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: know if you like that answer, but you know, listen, 346 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: I gotta call him like I see him. My job 347 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: here is to tell you what you want to know. 348 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: It's what you need to hear. Um, you know. And 349 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: I just if you can't do the A B S 350 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: controller and that's a concern, and that's it's becoming more 351 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: dominant on cars where we're doing more and more a 352 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: bs bleeds because it's you know, to not do so 353 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: it's only you know, partially, you're only taking out some 354 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: of the crug. And if you've never done a break flush, 355 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: when you see the junk that comes out of a 356 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: brake system after the cars a couple of four or 357 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: five years old, you know it's it reminds me of 358 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: carpenter Bob used A told to tell me, you know, 359 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: if you know how the house was built, you wouldn't 360 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: live in it. If you knew how brake systems work, 361 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: you wouldn't in a car. You wouldn't try, but you 362 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't trust it. It's so if you're gonna do it, 363 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: do the job right. Sorry to burst your bubble, Studie, 364 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: but I gotta keep this safe. Brought any in the 365 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: car doctor? We are back right after this. Don't go away? YEA, 366 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: welcome back, Ron. Any of the car doctors know what 367 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: to Steven Wisconsin. Steve, you're out with the car Doctoroe zero, 368 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: thanks for calling the show. Hey ran this. This truck 369 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: has a it's an Elis mortar, but it's a four 370 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: point eight leader. I bought it used with add miles 371 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: on it. Um. The day that I bought it, it 372 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: was warm. It was fall, but it was warm, six 373 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: five seventy degrees. I test roll of it. You know, 374 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: I liked everything. I just bought the fourth Chevy pickup 375 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: I've owned. I liked the las mortars. I know how 376 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: to maintain. I mean also I bought it, and then um, 377 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: when I got at home, had parked it for a while, 378 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: it got cold, and I started hearing this lifter tick. Okay, 379 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: and I just kind of started paying attention to it 380 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: and had come and go and come and go. And 381 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: I first wasn't worried about it, but and it got 382 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: worse and worse worse, and pretty soon it's stayed ticking. 383 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: And took it to the local mechanic and we put 384 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: new lifters in it. Okay, and um, I was skeptical 385 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: of oil pressure. Backman, the mechanic I used as a 386 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: personal friend, he's a race car driver, really good le 387 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: Chevy mortars. He said, you know the oil pump and 388 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: the that's the oil pan. Possibly you know, taking the 389 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: motor to get the pan off, So he said, and 390 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: they whist. Let's do the lifters first. Oil pressure seemed 391 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: to be between twenty and thirty. He didn't think that 392 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: was too terrible at that point. Yeah, it's it should 393 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: be twenty four pounds of thousand rpm. Good rule of thumb, 394 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, normal temperature. So you know, if it's hitting there, 395 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: then then you know you should be okay. And then 396 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: obviously it's got to go up as you increase you 397 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: know speed. Okay. Well, so fast forward to you know 398 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: a few months after that, and it got really cold, 399 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: and I know, I started noticing the oil pressure was 400 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: quite low, quite low at startup. That cold start is 401 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: actually lower at cold start than it is once it 402 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: gets up the running temperature, which it was the opposite 403 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: for me. Entire pickup trucks seem like the oil pressure 404 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: was always real high when it was cold. You know, 405 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: now it's it's the opposite. And believe it or not, 406 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: the lift or tick comes back. It's not as consistent 407 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: as it was, and it helped, and it helps if 408 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: I try to park it inside overnight, and then when 409 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: then I started off with a little bit better oil 410 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: pressure when it's when it's parked inside. So yeah, so 411 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: I'll just you know, I'm pretty convinced that it's that 412 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: oil pickup too old ring? Not okay? Um. One of 413 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: my questions to you was, if I want to delay 414 00:21:53,760 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: that procedure, what would you think about running? Want one 415 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: step from sinner oil one step thinner than just in 416 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: the wintertime. I hate these questions, okay, but it's okay, 417 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: go ahead, It's okay, brother. I know. I just hate 418 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: these because I know what you're asking me, and I, Um, 419 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: you want to prove it's the O ring. You want 420 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: to you know, there is a way that there is 421 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: a way to check to see if it is the 422 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: O ring. Okay, okay, on me, Um, you could try this. 423 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: You know I've I've had some success with this, and 424 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: I'm no inventor of this. I read this somewhere and 425 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: it has worked. Um that you would overfill the crank 426 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: case by a quarter oil. Start to start the truck 427 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: and take a floor jack and jack up the rear 428 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: of the truck as high as it will go. The 429 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: idea is you're pitching everything forward so you're you know 430 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: the crank case is over full, and if the O 431 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: ring is leaking or you know, if the O ring 432 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: is allowing air to be drawn in your now filling 433 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: it with oil. So if if, and it would be nice, 434 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: you know if you had an oil mechanical oil pressure 435 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: gage hooked up to this and you know you actually 436 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: could watch mechanical readings rather than wait for the lifters 437 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: to stop ticking or trying to you know, check out 438 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: the back of the truck, leave the door open, hope 439 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: the jack, Hope the car doesn't fall off the jack sideways. Uh. 440 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: You know there's there's like a hundred things going on 441 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: here that that you know, spell disaster all over them. 442 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: There's no you know, unless you got a fork lift 443 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: to pick up you know what I mean. There's a 444 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: problem picking up the back of the truck balancing it 445 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: on the rear differential, which I don't know that red 446 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: differentials were really meant for that. We see people do 447 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: it all the time. But you under your question the 448 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: strength of it, and you know what's the support system 449 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: and um, you could try that or just you know, 450 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: get it up. You know, you get it up on it. 451 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: If you got a pair of jack stands or horses 452 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: that will take it up as high as the floor jack. 453 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: The idea is to pitch all the oil forward and um, 454 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: you know see what that does and if it does 455 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: make a difference. Then you know it's the over ring, 456 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: and then you know, uh, you know, and then I 457 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, do you I'm kind of I'm 458 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. Do you do you do the pumpo 459 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: ring at a hundred and fifty thousand miles? Do you 460 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: swing a motor and drive the truck another ten years? Ah? 461 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's you know how many miles. But here's 462 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I searched for this vehicle for about 463 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: a year, and it was here's another thing that you 464 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: should know for a detail. Okay, it's from Nevada, it 465 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have a speck of restaurant, and it's Southern class, right. 466 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: I kind of figured that. Something in my head said, 467 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: this guy's got a truck with no rust. So I'm wondering, 468 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, how much do we already got to settle 469 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: lifters in it? We you know, we now we're gonna 470 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: take it apart. As you say, it's a pain in 471 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: the neck to pull the pan down to to get 472 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: to the four wheel drive? Is it easier to yank 473 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: the motor? You know? Is it easier to start out 474 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: with something fresh? And and you know, drive a ten 475 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: years and you know, the best way to convince yourself 476 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: of that is go price a new truck. You know, 477 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: it's like they want they want to pile the money 478 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: in your left kidney. Um, you know, and that's on 479 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: a bad day. Uh. What about what about driving it? For? 480 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: If I what? What? How? You know? What's what's what's 481 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: the diagnosis for? Like if I so well, if your 482 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: mindset is when it breaks all the way, you're gonna 483 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: put an engine in it, and you don't mind being 484 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: stuck somewhere, then drive it. But you know, you gotta 485 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's kind of like you know 486 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: Captain Kirk asking Scotty, Hey, we know the warp drives 487 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: down to the last two fuel injectors. How much longer 488 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: can we keep going on our mission to space something 489 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: along the way it's gonna stop? Um uh, But I 490 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: would kind of think in that direction. You know. It's funny. 491 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: We've been doing doing a lot of and I'm seeing 492 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: this as a trend, and I keep rolling around in 493 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: the back of my head when I'm not supposed to 494 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: be thinking about anything, which is like never. Um, you know, 495 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it pays to put ten fifteen thousand dollars into 496 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: an older vehicle because it's sixty or seventy for a 497 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: new one, and it's it's no better. Um, it doesn't 498 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: do anything different. It's four wheels, it goes around, turns, 499 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: it stops, it starts, you know, as long as you 500 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: can get parts for it. Uh. The nice thing would 501 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: be that if you if you did that to this truck, 502 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: you could consider putting a five, three or six oh 503 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: on it, you know a little more horsepower or um, 504 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, and and that because it runs awful, it 505 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: runs awfully low r p M. I'm just I'm I'm 506 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: a little bit suspicious that if it was a fleet vehicle, 507 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: you don't think that somebody could have changed the gears 508 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: in the rear end to make it get better gas 509 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: maalage at long distance rounds? Do you well, I think, 510 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: listen anything, anything's possible. But it's easy, you know what 511 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: you could You should be able to take that vin 512 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: take it to your local GM dealer, have them plug 513 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: it in and they should be able to give you 514 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: the rear end gear ratio or by looking at the 515 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: option codes the RPO codes listed in the glove box 516 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: usually is weird. It is on those trucks and and 517 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: then you know if it's if it's if it's three 518 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: twenty three's or you know, three oh eight or something, 519 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: whatever the gear ratio is, mark the drive shifts. Spinning 520 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: a ramp with the car up in the air, spinning around, 521 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: count the number of rotations and you know, from turning 522 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: the wheels to the drive shift, and you'll be able 523 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: to figure out the gear ratio and see if it 524 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: matches what the vehicle is supposed to have. You know, um, 525 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: at it's it's barely it's just a hair under. It 526 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: sounds about right, That doesn't That doesn't sound wrong. Um 527 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, I've had a lot of Chevy trucks over 528 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: the years myself. But you know, but try that. And then, 529 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: like I said, with regards to the oil, you know, 530 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: it's it's you're basically asking me the question. You're saying, Hey, Doc, 531 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: I know, I know one of the valves on my 532 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: heart is leaking, but I don't have time to fix 533 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: it right now. Can I just keep going the way 534 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: it is? What's the long term consequence? Oh? You know, 535 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: I always think of you know, and I should, and 536 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: I want to preface this and I want to hit 537 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: this point hard and then I'm gonna go. I always 538 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: think about you know, yeah, we're gonna drive it till 539 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: it stops, And people say that to me all the time. Ron, 540 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: I want to drive my vehicle till it stops, and 541 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: the back of my head, I go, but what if 542 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: you're on the thru Way doing sixty and there's an 543 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: eighteen wheeler coming up on your tail and it stops? 544 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: You know, it happens. And I like talking to everybody 545 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: every week. I like everybody looking the way they look, 546 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: So I just think about that one. It's uh, it's 547 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: real easy to fix it after the problem, So fix 548 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: it now. Good luck to you, Steve. Let me know 549 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: if you can do anything else for you. Ero. The 550 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: car docters coming back right after this. He's welcome back. 551 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: Weren't any of the car doctor be glad to drive 552 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: you home. Let's get on over and talk to Dan Wallingford, Connecticut. Dan, 553 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: you're out with the car doctor. What's going on here? Yes? 554 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: For good, I've got I got a ninety six at 555 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: three point eight supercharge. You got the one that's left good. 556 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I brought it from my neighbor, an older woman. We 557 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: had it garaged. It's got ninety seven thou miles. Does 558 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: this have the CRT screen in it? The touch screen? No, 559 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: so it's a regular dashboard. Okay, go ahead. Um, I've 560 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: had a little oil leak somewhere near near the belts 561 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: and I brought it in. They replaced as sending unit. 562 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: But they also then they told me I needed a 563 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,959 Speaker 1: lower intake gasket. So I got a couple of estimates. 564 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, both guys said around a thousand dollars. It's 565 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: a lot of work. I was wondering, um, if would 566 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: you recommend doing that? And there's no rust on the car. 567 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: I was thinking about the case seal, but well, is 568 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: it coolant or oil? It's cool? Um if it was cool, 569 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: and I'd give k C a shot. You know, it's 570 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: not gonna hurt anything. You know. The one nice thing 571 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: about and there's a lot of nice things about case 572 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: I should say it like that. You know, one of 573 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: the nice things about Case Seal is that the technology 574 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: behind it won't clogg anything. And they specifically state that 575 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: in all their literature, and it was something the engineers 576 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, really worked really hard to create in in 577 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: in terms of, you know, we need something that seals, 578 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: but something that won't create an issue elsewhere down the line. 579 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: So you know, for bottle of sealer, it's it's worth 580 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: a shot. It's it's because I know what you're saying. 581 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: It's a thousand and six sixteen, it's twenty five going 582 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: on twenty six years old. Nice car. You know, parts 583 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: at some point will become an issue. And you know, 584 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: as I've said throughout this hour and other shows, you know, 585 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: the older cars are great as long as you can 586 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: get parts for him. And that's you know, you know, 587 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: the paints chipping off a little. Yeah. I mentioned that 588 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: about the case seal to a guy at work and 589 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: he said, just make a key over by the heater 590 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: hoses right up your heater cor No, that's what case 591 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: heal specifically says it won't do. So they they you know, 592 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what if you want to hear 593 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: it right from the horse's mouth, and I don't. I've 594 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: I've talked to these guys. Listen. I just I just 595 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: used case seal this past week and an O five Saturn. Um. 596 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: I think I spoke about last hour. The last hour 597 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: of this hour lost track, but we had an old 598 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: five Saturn that needed a lower radiator hose the hose 599 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: was pourus. I put the hose on, the entire inside 600 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: of the hose was rusted and cruddy put it together. 601 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: Birke the air car was good customer, and pick it 602 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: up for a couple of days. I decided to start 603 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: it again. I started it a day after I had 604 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: done it, and wouldn't you know, within ten minutes of 605 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: running it, warming it up and checking the heat and 606 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: so forth. Now the radiator springs a leak. Now, now 607 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: what do you do? You got an old five Saturn, 608 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: It's fifteen years old, h and fifty thousand miles. You know, 609 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: it's it's not worth the It wasn't worth the price 610 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: of the hose. Now it's definitely not worth the price 611 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: of the radiator. It's just the cooling system found the 612 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: next weakest link. Put a bottle of caseeal cars fixed 613 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: down the road. It's got heat, it it works, it 614 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: does everything that's supposed to do. Yeah, ron, I haven't 615 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: had to do too much to this car. And I 616 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: put a radiator in. I got cervical art my neck, 617 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: so I can't. I can't you tackle the job like this. 618 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm fairly handy, right right, Yeah, you know? And I 619 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: put in the recovery tank. No, that would go right 620 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: in the radiator, in the radiator. You know, if you 621 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: want to, if you want to read more about it, Dan, 622 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: get out the k seal dot com. Get out to 623 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: their website and you'll see it there. They've actually got 624 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: some videos there, I believe. And uh, there's an eight 625 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: hundred number you can call company headquarters and uh, you 626 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: know you can ask you can answer them the same questions. 627 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: They'll give you the same answers. And I've used it, 628 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: We've been using it the better part of got it's 629 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: gotta be five years, but time flies each other, pages 630 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: off the calendar so fast. Some years. Uh, you know, 631 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: in all the years we're using it, we've never had 632 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: a clogg A heater or corp. We've never had a 633 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: clogg A radiator. Um. One of the bad things about 634 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: the internet and neighbors that think they can fix cars 635 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: is the wise tales that get created. And uh, you know, 636 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things have changed since we started this conversation, 637 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: never mind the last five, fifteen, twenty years of auto repair. 638 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: So UM, this technology resource for me. I'll tell you, 639 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: I listened every week I get you on the podcast. 640 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: I listened to it at work. Thank you, sir. We're 641 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: we're glad to be here for you. But uh, I 642 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: would do that and you know that doesn't work. Then 643 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: you can make a decision. Do you want to you know, 644 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: do an intake manifold guest, get and uh drive a 645 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: classic to work every day. Good luck to you. Let 646 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: me know what happens. Dan, if you have any more questions, 647 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: you know where to find me. Zero, I'll be right here. 648 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back, calm, name the car doctor 649 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: real quick. Let's go to Frank in New Mexico. Frank, 650 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor. Sir, Hey doc, thank you. 651 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: Question about my seventy two Lincoln Continental with the optional 652 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: sure track brake system. I want to change out all 653 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: the fluid. This has a little valve in there were 654 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: and when you step on it during the next him breaking, 655 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: it pulses the rear brakes to reduce the chances of 656 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: total lock up. It was an optional thing. Suck brake system. 657 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: The special way I need to bleed that not that 658 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm aware of. And you know, seventy two. Even if 659 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: there were, Frank, if there were special tooling involved, nobody's 660 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna have it, so it's it's a lost cause at 661 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: that point, bleed him the way. You know, if you 662 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: heard me describe the break bleed method, uh that I 663 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: talked about this hour with the cup and the rubber 664 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 1: hose and you know all that. You know that'll work fine, 665 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: You'll you'll never get it out the rest of the way. 666 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: It depends. You know. Back in the seventies, Ford was 667 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: big into they were into TVs, T e v E, 668 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: s Anti lock, they were into Bosch Anti lock brake systems. 669 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what this is. I don't know what 670 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: this is the early infancy factory manual, so I can 671 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: further it, but I remember we did about thirty forty 672 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: years ago. My buddy was underneath any it was at 673 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: some valve and they and I believe is a value 674 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: you have to manually press down. And that's fine, and 675 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 1: if you've got to procedure, follow it. But if they 676 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: start with you need an electronic because there were some 677 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: there were some back in the day that needed uh 678 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: I'll call it an electronic buzz box that plugged into 679 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: a connector that activated solenoids. The very early you know, 680 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: predecessors of what we see as modern day scan tools. 681 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna have that tool today. But if you've got 682 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: a simple mechanical way to do it, do it. Frank 683 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: And as always, I appreciate the call, thanks for being there. 684 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm not an aiding the car doctor, reminding you, as always, 685 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see