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Speaker 2: There are certain things I can just say.

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Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent positive of I am one

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Speaker 2: That we make too much of preseason football.

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Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent positive that we're obsessed with the sport.

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Speaker 2: And I have a hundred percent positive that no matter.

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Speaker 3: What happens for the Browns this weekend, it won't stop

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Speaker 3: the shadoor talk.

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Speaker 2: Love it or hate it, it is here for good.

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Speaker 3: It's two pros and a cup of Joe, but today

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Speaker 3: it's really like to Joe's and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 3: I don't know he's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz. It's

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Speaker 3: a bucking fits takeover.

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Speaker 2: Two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 3: I mean, pro is not a word that many people

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Speaker 3: use for either Buck Rising or myself in a hundred

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Speaker 3: different Don't look he's giving me this look. You're seeing

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Speaker 3: something controversial. You are barely professional, sir.

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Speaker 4: I am one hundred percent of professional. I can't even

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Speaker 4: say the word professional. It's too early in the morning

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Speaker 2: Just because you didn't go out last night.

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Speaker 3: In Atlanta doesn't mean that you're an actual professional. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just just you know, I'm just saying two pros.

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Speaker 3: I think when they say pros they mean, like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, Leavar Arrington and Brady Quinn for very specific reasons,

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Speaker 3: different kind of pro than.

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Speaker 2: Buck Rising adjacent. Fitz.

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Speaker 5: Come on, well, that's fine, that's all well and good.

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Speaker 4: You can you can be a professional and whatever it

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Speaker 4: if I'm a professional, you know, if my profession now

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Speaker 4: ten years ago when you met me, as in not

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Speaker 4: going out on a road trip. And I've been stuck

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Speaker 4: in this damn hotel room for I don't know, ten

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Speaker 5: We cover, by the way, this.

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Speaker 4: Road trip stuff that NFL teams are doing, and not

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Speaker 4: all NFL teams are doing. But like I cover the

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Speaker 4: Tennessee Titans. If you're unfamiliar, Fits, he's hanging out in Connecticut.

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Speaker 4: I'm normally in Nashville, but I've been in Atlanta for

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Speaker 4: six days. Rather, they have kept the Titans on the road, FITZI,

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Speaker 4: for ten consecutive days went straight from joint preseason joint

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Speaker 4: training camp practices with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a preseason

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Speaker 4: we've all been on the road together at this point

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Speaker 5: These teams that.

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Speaker 4: Do this, they better be as cohesive a unit as

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Speaker 4: any that you will find in the NFL, because this

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Speaker 3: I mean, Josh McDaniels kept the Raiders on the East

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Speaker 3: he thought it'd be good for team camaraderie, and if

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Speaker 2: Like, this is the concept we all have.

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Speaker 5: It's tough to have benaraderie when you hate the coach.

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Speaker 4: Like if you're stuck with the coach that you hate

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Speaker 2: What a great time. Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: And the more you get to know guys in the league,

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Speaker 3: Something that belongs in a movie more than it actually

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Speaker 4: Truly, I have eaten my bodyweight in strict club wings

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Speaker 5: Like that's not an easy thing.

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Speaker 4: That's a small city that you've just picked up and

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Speaker 5: And the logic at least here.

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Speaker 4: Fitzi has been, Well, this is a three and fourteen

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Speaker 4: The number one overall draft pick cam Ward is here

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Speaker 4: they're trying to find ways to grow leadership, to find leadership,

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Speaker 5: And it's listen for you.

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Speaker 4: If you're the coach of a three and fourteen football

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Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned that number one overall pick. It's

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Speaker 4: Grandpa Archie seems to say, no, that's not how the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Popaul is out here speaking on my half everybody,

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Speaker 5: Beectful to refer to Archie man as popa same I mean, really.

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Speaker 2: Over the last ten years.

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Speaker 3: For everybody that thinks, oh my god, Kayle Williams is

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Speaker 3: James Winston first overall pick did not save the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: through the two thousands of how many bad first overall

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Speaker 3: It's just it rarely happens. I wanted to happen. I

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Speaker 3: First of all, I miss speak, but the injury helps that.

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Speaker 3: And you're right, all of this creates a wild amount

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Speaker 2: He's still moving.

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Speaker 3: Conspiracy theories in sports and gambling. It's it's August buck.

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Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this. Aliens. We enter

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Speaker 3: I don't really care and so are you? Are you

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Speaker 3: in aliens exist? Where are we on this one?

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Speaker 4: They have to right? I mean, what what is the oh,

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: I mean would human beings be considered intelligent life?

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Speaker 5: And I'm referencing mostly fits in myself.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm I I believe that there. However, you

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Speaker 5: Surely not. If so, the universe is doomed.

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Speaker 2: But are they among us? That is the question?

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Speaker 5: Now, Lee you you are you are a proponent of this? Yes?

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Speaker 7: Well yeah, look at the ocean, Look at octopus, look

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Speaker 2: Well, like, that's not as much.

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Speaker 3: It's fun if it's an alien that we can't talk

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Speaker 7: You should watch Octopus, Teacher. There's a bond between the

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Speaker 4: Well, and do the do the OCTOPI I believe in

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Speaker 5: And do we.

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Speaker 2: Keep eating them and deep frying them? Well, they are delicious,

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Speaker 3: I look, I'm a little dumbfounded here, Like the concept

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Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna pick an area with a bunch of

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Speaker 3: There's plenty of room there, Like, I just don't understand

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Speaker 5: Send them to my homeland. Don't put that all. Get

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Speaker 7: They're probably just some spore, thank you, OCTOPI, some spore

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Speaker 2: Here we are well.

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Speaker 4: And also FITSI the hubris of you, the entitlement of

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Speaker 4: you are the one gentrifying there.

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Speaker 5: The other way around.

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Speaker 3: Like if I I find out today that my three

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Speaker 2: They'll still be my three best friends tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Like if you were an alien all this time, you

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, alien does not connote superpower. Like what are

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Speaker 3: you're supposed to have some advanced something, right, So now

444
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 3: you're telling me that like aliens just sort of happen

445
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 3: stanced over here and they're just like taking over sections

446
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 3: of the land and they're just like, you know, like

447
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 3: just squatters, squatters rights on aliens. I want them to

448
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 3: be here for a purpose. They're supposed to be here

449
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,159
Speaker 3: for advancement or a battle or something, not just like

450
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 3: hanging out.

451
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 5: Purpose of advancement. Would you say that you're here for

452
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,480
Speaker 5: bud Oh.

453
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,640
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm but I'm not an alien, right

454
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 3: like the aliens coming here would be?

455
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 5: They strong disagree m that.

456
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 2: Look, I just just I might be a vampire.

457
00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 3: Like just because I look particularly young from my age

458
00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm act an alien.

459
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 5: Botox does not mean you're a vampire.

460
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 2: Oh, only one of us has had botox? And are

461
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 2: you related to Jonas? Uh?

462
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,639
Speaker 3: The the look puck Puck out here throwing botox shade

463
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 3: by the way, Puck, how old are you, buddy?

464
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 5: How uh thirty two? A couple of weeks ago.

465
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Thirty two? You are?

466
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: I am old enough to be your dad and have

467
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 3: not yet had any injection put in my face?

468
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 2: Thank you very much?

469
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 5: So every three months, baby.

470
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 2: Wow?

471
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 5: Two.

472
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: Do do aliens get botox? Or do aliens do the botox?

473
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 3: I see this is where this is where people driving

474
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,719
Speaker 3: themselves crazy with this.

475
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 4: I think the botox is the alien life form. Uh nothing, nothing,

476
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 4: nothing derived from humanity can can hold you together that well,

477
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 4: I think the botox is the alien.

478
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 2: I'll let the aliens figure it out. We'll figure out gambling.

479
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: He's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking well. I mean we'll

480
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: try and figure it out.

481
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: I like that.

482
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 4: Don't don't give him, don't give him the clap for that.

483
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 4: That was not as good at tease as he wanted

484
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 4: it to be.

485
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: Wow, this is this is We're barely an hour a

486
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: half into this and mommy and daddy are fighting on

487
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: a morning. It's Friday morning. How can we be this

488
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 3: snippy on a Friday morning?

489
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

490
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 4: I've just I've just started to wake wake up. After

491
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 4: an hour and a half, of radio. Now now I

492
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: can get to you know, Now I can be me

493
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: a little bit. Go oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what

494
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying. An hour and a half in. Now now

495
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,199
Speaker 4: I'm really feeling it now, so I'm now, I'm awake.

496
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 5: Now I'm I'm ready to rock. Now I can gain

497
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 5: more of me instead.

498
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: Of instead of this you know, sleepy dope that just

499
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 4: rolled out of bed. You know you screaming about Shadoor

500
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 4: Sanders at me.

501
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So to recap, you said your words were not

502
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 3: slurred in the first hour because you went out. You

503
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 3: said that you went to Magic City Wings or Magic

504
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 3: City for the Wings and only the Wings that you

505
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: stayed in last night. And now suddenly it's seven thirty

506
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 3: Eastern time. Now you're feeling froggy. Now you're feeling awake

507
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 3: and glorious. But there was no reason that you were

508
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 3: tired when the show started. There buddy in Atlanta, hanging

509
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 3: out with maybe.

510
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 5: Listen.

511
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: I have had six damn days here in Atlanta to

512
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 4: go get my strip club wings, and I have taken

513
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 4: full advantage at this point in time. No, I waddled

514
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: downstairs to the God help the people that are that

515
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 4: are also staying in this hotel that I've just been

516
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 4: screaming into a microphone in my room for the last

517
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 4: five or five or six days straight, having to hear

518
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: Shador Sanders rants and conspiracy theories about the Kansas City Chiefs. No,

519
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 4: I waddled downstairs to the to the common area. I

520
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: got my cup of coffee in a banana. I've my

521
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: headache that I woke up with has dissuaded. And not

522
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 4: because I'm hungover because of the strip club wings, but

523
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 4: because for some reason, Fitzy, I just wake up with

524
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 4: a with.

525
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 5: A not a hangover with a headache anymore. I don't

526
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 5: know what to do about that.

527
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 4: Perhaps I should be taking advantage of the fine people

528
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: at Mattress Firm that way.

529
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: Maybe you should, you know, instead of uber eats stripper wings,

530
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: maybe you uber eat your way and maybe you uber

531
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Speaker 3: your way over to a gym.

532
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: Work that out, buddy, and then you'll feel better. You'll

533
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 2: sweat it out.

534
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: Just got a lot of I'm dripping with judgment and

535
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: the look I'm getting from Buck Rising.

536
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: Right now, I don't want to hear you dripping with anything.

537
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: Oh God, whatever the hell is holding up your alien

538
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: life form hair.

539
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: It's perfect already.

540
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 4: You know.

541
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: It just wakes up this way. Now you get to

542
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: see it.

543
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 5: Okay, so look like you got electrocuted. Maybe he wakes

544
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 5: up this way.

545
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is what happens.

546
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 3: Look you come at me, buddy, Come at me, see

547
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: me when you're almost fifty, and we'll figure out if

548
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: your hair looks this good, buddy.

549
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: Let let we'll just we'll figure that out.

550
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 4: I will have taken three trips to Turkey to make

551
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 4: sure my hair looks that good by then.

552
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: That is that is Yeah, just you're gonna start saving

553
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: up for that trip. Now, that's that's the way it's done.

554
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 3: I'll use my gambling winnings to get there.

555
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: And gambling has me thinking about Michael Porter Junior, who

556
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little man.

557
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: I'm a little shooketh that Michael Porter Junior, who I

558
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: love the fact that he just says what is on

559
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: his mind when he's on his mind. But he was

560
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 3: on one night with Stuff I Need the podcast and

561
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: he talked about sports gambling with his friends and looks

562
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: it's pretty staggering when he starts talking about the advantage

563
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 3: that it can create when you can just look at

564
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: your buddies and say, hey, you know what, maybe play

565
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: the under tonight. And then you get injured, and like

566
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: your one buddy can make ten grand and another buddy

567
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: can make ten Brandon grand, and he's he's talking about

568
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: this buck, and I just I'm stunned because I cannot

569
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: believe that a player in the league doesn't understand the

570
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 3: systems that are in place to catch that exact thing.

571
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: Like if any sports but there's a national register that

572
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: looks at all bets that are placed in any sports books.

573
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: He's an unusual amount of activity being placed on the

574
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Speaker 3: under of Michael Porter Junior, for you know, ten thousand

575
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 3: dollars and there's five or six bets on it, and

576
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 3: they see it. There isn't a chance in hell that

577
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: doesn't get flagged. Like these are the moments that I

578
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 3: keep looking at everybody saying, hey, the gambling issue when

579
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: it comes to players. The fact that we're getting people

580
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: flagged all the time shows you that the guardrails are

581
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: actually working.

582
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: Let me let me hear the full or the audio

583
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: context if I could lay from the One Night with

584
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Speaker 4: Steiny podcast.

585
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 8: You get mad at these dudes like they do the

586
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 8: sports betting, but think about it. If you could get

587
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 8: all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand

588
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 8: dollars on under. You know this one game, I'm gonna

589
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 8: act like I got an injury and I'm I'm gonna

590
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 8: sit out. I'm gonna come out after three minutes and

591
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 8: they all get a little bad because you did it

592
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 8: one game like that is so not okay. But some

593
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 8: people probably think like that. They come from nothing and

594
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 8: all their homies have nothing, and they're like, Bro, if

595
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 8: I if I come out of this game after three

596
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 8: minutes and y'all all hit on my under, we're all

597
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 8: getting a little bad, you know what I mean? And

598
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 8: I obviously my brother went through his situation. You know,

599
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 8: Malik Beasley's going through a situation roun Now, Terry Rozier

600
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 8: was in some hot water. But the whole sports gambling

601
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 8: like entity, Bro, it's it's it's bad, and it's it's

602
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 8: only gonna get worse. Bro, Like we we really do

603
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 8: get death threats.

604
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 5: So that is courtesy.

605
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 4: That's Michael Porter Junior on the One Night with Steiny

606
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: Podcasts discussing and he talked about a variety of different

607
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: subcase This is a pretty pretty interesting listen. If you

608
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 4: haven't caught the full podcast yet. He also talked about

609
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: like dating in NBA circles and the impact of gambling

610
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: on that, But is is larger point about the betting

611
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 4: impact going to get worse, and you know how much

612
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 4: of this has detracted from the integrity of the game

613
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: or the enjoyment of the game, specifically on the professional

614
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 4: athletes sides Like I, I don't disagree with him, especially

615
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: when you're you've got so many these these gambling entities

616
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: that are promoting themselves on college campuses and things like that,

617
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: and they're there are the instances are few and far between,

618
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 4: like the guardrails to your point, and I believe you

619
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: mentioned this earlier or if not, you've you've mentioned it

620
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: off air or in previous shows that we've done again,

621
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 4: other that the system is working to make sure that

622
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 4: we catch these things and there are very few and

623
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 4: far between instances that these things are actually happening. So

624
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: it's just are you are you smart enough to avoid

625
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: the temptation of what of what Michael Porter Junior has

626
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 4: just described there, Even though yeah, it sounds all pretty routine,

627
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: it could cost you what ten grand you could make

628
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 4: for you and your buddies, if you're faking an injury

629
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: and hitting you're under, or betting you're under and faking

630
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: an injury and then making sure that that under hits

631
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: you cost yourself so much more in the long term

632
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: as far as earnings. How could you possibly rationalize it

633
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: that way? Like, I get that, and ten thousand dollars

634
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: is not an amount of money to turn your nose

635
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: up at, even if you're a professional athlete. But like

636
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 4: that logic to me what he's describing it, it simply

637
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 4: does not make sense, especially when you talk about the

638
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: NBA and the amount of money that even fringe like

639
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 4: you know, seventh or eighth guys off the bench are

640
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: making relative to ten thousand dollars, that's a drop in

641
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: the bucket.

642
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 5: That's that's couch cushion change.

643
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the the hard part about this is again,

644
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: there are national systems. You know, it's funny. I like

645
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: to watch old Law and Order and you know, the

646
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: like the early nineties.

647
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 5: Original law were making law and orders.

648
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they still make law order. Yeah, yeah, you can't stick.

649
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, of course it's not peacock like I haven't

650
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: gotten I listened to Law and Order. I literally listened

651
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: to Law and Order every day while I'm in the gym.

652
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: That's it.

653
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: I don't like rage music when I work out, and

654
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: so I just like to go into like a weird

655
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: spot where like I don't think. And I've watched every

656
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: episode of the old Law and Order, so I just

657
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: started season.

658
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: One earlier this year.

659
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: I'm up to like season seven now. So yeah, there's

660
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: new seasons. But the funny thing is I literally saw

661
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: an episode from I think season four or five where

662
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: one of the new cops was having to teach everybody

663
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: how to use email and the internet because they didn't

664
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: even realize that existed.

665
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: And part of what they're starting to do in these

666
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: old seasons is say.

667
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: Hey, we can cross references person and see if they're

668
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: wanted in another state, because that didn't really exist in

669
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: an easy way in the early nineties. If you're you know,

670
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: if you're junkie for true crime and serial killers, you'll

671
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: see that. Back in the seventies and eighties, like they

672
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: would be all over the place, and because there wasn't

673
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: an easy way for anybody to communicate from Washington to Florida,

674
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: it became really hard to catch people like Ted Bundy like,

675
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: that's because technology didn't exist the way that it exists today. Well,

676
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: now technology is such that gambling is the databases that

677
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: exists for regulation exists nationally.

678
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: So even if.

679
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: You've got one body over here in Maine and one

680
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: body over here in Wisconsin and you're telling them to

681
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: put that ten thousand dollars out, it is going to

682
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: cause a flag. And this is where I come back to,

683
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: you know, my childhood. I grew up in Las Vegas

684
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: as a kid, and my parents were both casino managers.

685
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: And you know, I remember when we left Vegas, everybody

686
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: would always ask my parents, Like we'd be sitting around

687
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: with you know, friends and friends, family, and it was

688
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: always all, man, you know, casinos they cheat, don't they.

689
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: Now this is you know, post mob Era or the

690
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: mob ere a very different post mob Erera.

691
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: And I so distinctly remember my mom, who's always been

692
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: blunting in communication, saying, no, casinos don't have to cheat

693
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: because people are stupid. And the whole point that she

694
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: constantly made is that regulations exist where everything is tracked,

695
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: and you can't cheat in a casino even if you

696
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: want to, because it's not worth the risk. Casinos are

697
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: so wildly regulated, just like sports gambling is, all you

698
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: gotta do is rely on people to lose self control,

699
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: and so when the advantage always goes to the house,

700
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: eventually people will make a bet they shouldn't make, and

701
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: the house always wins. There's a reason those big fancy

702
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: casinos exist in Vegas. The house always wins. Like DraftKings

703
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: isn't here taking bets because most people get the best

704
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: of DraftKings. They're taking bets because they're making money hand

705
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: over fist. So all of these companies are making money

706
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: because most people are out there just playing parlay after

707
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: parlay after parlay, and they show you the one ticket

708
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: that won, but they don't show you one hundred tickets

709
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: that lost over the course of the year, right, Like

710
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: that's the.

711
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: Way this whole gambling thing works.

712
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: So for athletes that are sitting here saying, oh, I'm

713
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: gonna go make ten grand for my friend because I

714
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: have insider information at what risk, at what costs, Because

715
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: the regulations will find you and they have found them.

716
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: Like the reason that two Cleveland Guardians pitchers are under

717
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: investigation is because you can't do these things without people

718
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: figuring out quickly, especially if there's any real money. So

719
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: if you're placing any actual dollars on any of this,

720
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: it's simply going to flag somebody. And if you're not

721
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: placing any actual dollars on it, then it's not worth

722
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: the risks. So I just think that we're turning something

723
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: that's actually being positively regulated into some sort of a

724
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: massive chaos like massive crisis that I just don't think exists.

725
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: You know what I think is more detrimental to athletes

726
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: than the gambling environment right now, go on podcast appearances,

727
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: listen as people who speaking to microphones for a living.

728
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: I acknowledge that we are guilty of oversharing, but like

729
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: some of these, some of these conversations that are being

730
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: had by athletes where where you would never never in

731
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 4: a million world, in a million years, Fitzy, you know,

732
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: I do postgame locker room uh stuff all the time.

733
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: As as a beat reporter, I cover i cover a

734
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 4: team on a day to day basis.

735
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 5: I'm in the locker.

736
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: Room probably four days a week, and in press conference

737
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: settings like these things would never be said in front

738
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: of media that way.

739
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: And yet you know, an.

740
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: Athlete gets in a podcast setting in a situation where

741
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: they're probably surrounded by people that they trust far more

742
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: than you know, the media vultures like like myself and

743
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: things like that, and they overshare or share some of

744
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: the most bird brain stuff you've ever heard.

745
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 5: I think I think.

746
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: That the podcast appearances and how many people have these

747
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: different platforms that will get aggregated like this far more

748
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: detrimental to to the to the to the well being

749
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 4: of these of these athletes than anything else, because you,

750
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: even if you believe some of this stuff, or even

751
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: if you are feeling this type of way, like there

752
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: is there is something to the oversharing of it that

753
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: will that will allow your words to be twisted or

754
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 4: or give your words more meaning than you actually intended

755
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 4: them to have, because your words do matter, and now

756
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: they're being documented and literally every platform. And I'm not

757
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 4: against people having podcasts, like I like hearing more transparency

758
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: from athletes. I like getting a better look at how

759
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: they actually feel, because God knows, they're not willing to

760
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: share it with a lot of us who are asking

761
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 4: them these questions on a day to day basis. And

762
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 4: and you know, most of it well intentioned. Some some

763
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: people are out to get you for clickbait. And otherwise,

764
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,479
Speaker 4: but just I find it so funny that athletes are

765
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: so guarded in certain settings and then you know, they

766
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: sit down on a couch with a couple of sure

767
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 4: mics and and all of a sudden, it's it's everything's

768
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: fair game and no rules apply, and logic and reason

769
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: don't actually matter here.

770
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: You forget where you are sometimes.

771
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: The very first digital livestream show that I did at

772
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: ESPN at the time with Mina Kimes, like there was

773
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 3: a bunch of us for the NFL and we were

774
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: live and we were not on any sort of a

775
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: delay because we're all pros. We've all done TV and

776
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 3: radio and there's no big deal. Thirty seconds in, Mina

777
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: drops an F bomb because and she immediately said, she's like,

778
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, but like we were all sitting on

779
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: the couch to shoot, like it felt like the night

780
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: before when we were sitting on you know, Michael Ola

781
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: Junior scouch having the same conversations. This time there were

782
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: just microphones, and you forget, and that is that is

783
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: absolutely part of this. Like you get comfortable, and when

784
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 3: you're comfortable, you say something maybe maybe you.

785
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be sure to catch live editions of two Pros

786
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,

787
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

788
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: Could you ever imagine, as an NFL fan, or an

789
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: NBA fan, or an NHL fan or major baseball fan,

790
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: a system where, before a single game have been played,

791
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: everybody would sit down and simply, by arbitrary vote, decide

792
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: how your favorite team is ranked, which will decide how

793
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: your favorite team is perceived, which could decide the entire

794
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 3: fate of your season. All based not on a single game,

795
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: not on a single snap of football, not on a

796
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: single meaningful moment, but instead on the presumption of what

797
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: it's gonna look like. That sounds asinine, that feels stupid,

798
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 3: and it's exactly what for some reason, college football still

799
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: gives us every single year. It's two pros and a

800
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: cup of Joe. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're

801
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: in for the guys on Fox Sports Radio.

802
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: And Buck me. Eight people came out this week. Now.

803
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm a long since believer that the college football coaches

804
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: poles should not exist. Coaches that you talk to will

805
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: tell you they can't watch enough football to vote. In fact,

806
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: how are they even supposed to have the time to

807
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 3: watch all of the top twenty five games before they

808
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: submit their vote every week? And why are they waste

809
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: all of their time as voters just sitting there getting.

810
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: No I gotta take a look at this number twenty unlv.

811
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: I gotta watch that game to see how I'm gonna

812
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: vote on them, Like, that's not realistic. The coach's pole

813
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 3: is just it should be non existent at this point.

814
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: I understand the value of the Associated Press pol at

815
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: some point, but I don't understand the value of the

816
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 3: Associated Press Bowl. Today, Texas is the number one team

817
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 3: in the country. Based on this presumption that arch Manning

818
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: is gonna come in having played two started two games,

819
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: he's thrown less than one hundred collegiate passes. Arch Manning

820
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: is just gonna lead them to the Promised Land. Like

821
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: the amount of guesses, the amount of sure, the amount

822
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: of throws spaghetti against the wall and see what sticks

823
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 3: from the ape pole is just stupid to me, And

824
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: it does weirdly impact like there. It impacts the perception

825
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: of certain teams. It impacts the way we think this

826
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: season's gonna go. Like I don't see any positive that

827
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: comes from the a peopole other than the hype of

828
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: being able to say, oh, Texas versus Ohio State, so

829
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: one versus A three.

830
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 4: Well there is that, And so the networks and the

831
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: places that put these rankings out would also benefit from

832
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 4: being able to have additional hype around because now you

833
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: see what the week one or yeah, the first week

834
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: of college football matchups look like. Where you've got Texas

835
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: and Ohio State, and that's it's it sells itself under

836
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 4: normal circumstances, but it give it a little extra juice if,

837
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 4: for example, you know Texas has never been number one

838
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: in the preseason AP pole, like it again, and you

839
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: would think Brandon as big as Texas at some point,

840
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: with as much talent and as many NFL players as

841
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: have gone through that university, would be number one. It's like,

842
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: I mean, not quite as crazy as Vandy never having

843
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: been ranked in a preseason AP pole, even though Diego

844
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: Pavia will tell everybody at every turn that he's going

845
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 4: to win the national championship at a place where nobody

846
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: expects him to win a national championship and just think

847
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 4: it's cute. Otherwise, respectfully to the commodores. But I mean,

848
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 4: I enjoy the dialogue around at FITZI, even though I

849
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: understand that it doesn't actually mean and this one doesn't

850
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 4: actually mean anything, because I you know, I would do

851
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: away with the with the ap pole altogether if you'd

852
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: let me, because we do. We eventually do away with

853
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: the ape pole or devalue the a people when the

854
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: college football playoff rankings come out, and then we have

855
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: the ap pole, which doesn't matter anymore, juxtaposed against the

856
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: thing that actually matters for the purposes of seeding and

857
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: all these other things. But that's that's less sexy, that's

858
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: less conversational. And we understand that. You know, we've you

859
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 4: and I have done two hours of radio today. We'll

860
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: do another fifty six minutes based on how much time

861
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: that we have left.

862
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: And I've got three hours to do on the local

863
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 5: show today.

864
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: And you know what, We're going to talk about a

865
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: lot of college football, baby, because this is the last

866
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: weekend that we will have, the last Saturday that we

867
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 4: will have without college football in our lives. Praise be

868
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: to the football gods. So while the value of it,

869
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: it's just it's how much value do you actually want

870
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: to put it in you do you take the thing

871
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 4: for what it is, or do you actually want to

872
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: have serious preseason commons about the ranking of things, because

873
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure there are Tennessee fans that are but heard

874
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 4: about the idea of Indiana being ranked higher than them,

875
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: and even though it's a preseason bowl, because then you're

876
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: trafficking in fan base pride, and that's a good way

877
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 4: to stir up conversation. It's a good way to stir

878
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 4: up intrigue and interest. It's a good way to get

879
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: people talking about, you know, programs that you might not

880
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: otherwise be talking about. Where should South Carolina is the

881
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 4: thirteenth best team in the country, of the thirteenth ranked

882
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: team in the country ahead of the season, actually be

883
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 4: ranked higher? We discounting them because South Carolina is not

884
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 4: somebody that we normally talk about as a college football

885
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 4: playoff contender. But with Leonora Sellers and the record that

886
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 4: they had last season and the recruiting talent that they've

887
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 4: been able to compile, they absolutely should be. Does a

888
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 4: university like Miami belong as high as ten with as

889
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: much turnover as they've had, even though their offensive coordinator

890
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: is saying or at least propping Carson Beckup is potentially

891
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: having another number one overall pick in his quarterback room,

892
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 4: which I think is a bit nonsense.

893
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's just like, it's what else is

894
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: he gonna say?

895
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 3: Man, we paid Carson back a ton of money, and

896
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: boy does he suck.

897
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 4: But yes, I hear, he's too busy cheating on a

898
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: Cavendar twin and then doing all the things that the

899
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 4: rest of us would probably do in our early twenties

900
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: in South Florida.

901
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 3: If I was if I was rich in my early

902
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: twenties in South Florida, there's there's absolutely nothing I wouldn't

903
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 3: be trying to put in my body and nobody wouldn't

904
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 3: cheat on.

905
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: So I like it. Look, I get it. I'm not.

906
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: I'm not.

907
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: Look in my early twenties, that wasn't the adult that

908
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: I am now. I make sure that I do.

909
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: I think you make a Oh God, I can't bounce

910
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: back from that one. I think you make our fair point. Yeah,

911
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: that is. I set myself up for.

912
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: That about conversation though, because I will say, Look, I'm

913
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: an agent of chaos.

914
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't.

915
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: College football is my favorite sport to cover, and it

916
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: is namely my favorite sport to cover because I don't

917
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: care who wins and loses. And the craziest thing about

918
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: that is that fan base is all They all got

919
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 3: so worked up that that's what I love. I don't

920
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: really what I need is for Alabama to be either

921
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: really great or really terrible, because either way people care. Right,

922
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: what I need is for Texas to either go out

923
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: and win a national championship or just get decimated and

924
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 3: fall off the rails, because either way people care, like

925
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: I want people to care about college football because I

926
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 3: love the sport. That being said, you make a good

927
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: point about the conversation. Part of the reason I've long

928
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: since been a champion of the College Football Playoff Committee

929
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: is if we simply create automatic bids where people get

930
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: into the college Football Playoff by where they finished in

931
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: their conference, there's no reason to talk about college football.

932
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 2: And you know, very real like.

933
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: Watch shows like you know across the ESPN and Fox

934
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: Sports all day watch Get Up Right, and during a

935
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 3: regular time of the year, is get upm gonna talk

936
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: about college football on Tuesday or Wednesday?

937
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: The answer to that is no.

938
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: And for the first month and a half of the season,

939
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: they'll barely cover college football right.

940
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: But the minute the college football playoffs starts.

941
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: To come out every Tuesday night, in part because ESPN

942
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: has the broadcasting right, so that oh Man, Tuesday, there's

943
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: a national media conversation what's the committee going to do?

944
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: And Wednesday there's a reaction to it. I think that's

945
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: good for the growth of the sport it is. I've

946
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 3: seen the numbers and frankly, even at Yahoo where I

947
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: am now and incredible check out yah who Sports Daily

948
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: by the way, Monday through Friday, and I do eleven

949
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 3: am Eastern that's live.

950
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 2: Thank you. No, it's a plug. That's not a fine.

951
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: It's a plug that you should be fine for, even

952
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 4: though it is excellent content that you and Caroline Fenton

953
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: are doing.

954
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much. I appreciate that compliment.

955
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: Look, we look at the numbers and college football doesn't

956
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: do great ratings on podcasts, it doesn't do great rating

957
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 3: on national shows things like that.

958
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: Monday Tuesday, there isn't really a big appetite for it. Friday,

959
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 2: there isn't really a big appetite.

960
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: I've hosted a ton of esp and college football shows

961
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 3: and my time when I was there and it's crazy

962
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: how many of those shows were. Hey, the ratings are

963
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: okay on Monday, but they're terrible on Friday. Like, all

964
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: of this is because college football has a hard time

965
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: cutting through the noise nationally for a lot of people,

966
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 3: and that's that seems crazy to everyone in the South

967
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: and everyone in the Midwest, but it's real to the

968
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: national perspective. I like having reasons to create a conversation,

969
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: So maybe you've changed my mind a little bit, because

970
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: you're right. We wouldn't be talking about Texas the same

971
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: way we are, but they're the preseason number one, so

972
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: it creates a conversation. I just wish there was a

973
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 3: way to do that without propping up false value that

974
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: can change, you know, perception biases.

975
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that, but if if there was, we

976
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: would have figured it out by now, you know what

977
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, because it's not just cutting through the noise,

978
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: it's cutting through the NFL, and they're just one otherworldly

979
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 4: ability to suffocate the life out of every other sport,

980
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: even America's second most popular sport, which is of course

981
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: college football. I FITZI I enjoy it, and not just

982
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 4: because I live in the South and in Nashville, Tennessee,

983
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 4: where you know, we don't have great local college football,

984
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: although Diego Povey has given us some juice, you know.

985
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: I mean, if if it's Povy is like the preseason poll. Okay,

986
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: he he making a lot of noise, a lot of

987
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: noise for people who are unfamiliar with Diego Pavia. He's

988
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: the quarterback of the Vanderbilt Commodore's. If you're unfamiliar with

989
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt Commodore football, it is famously stinky. They upset Alabama.

990
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: You like stinky. Stinky's word the buck rising lights like

991
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm you know.

992
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 5: It seems it seems gentler then sucks.

993
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,439
Speaker 4: Out loud, which I used to describe Titan's cornerback depth

994
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 4: on the on the Local show yesterday.

995
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 5: It just seems a bit gentler and I and I

996
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: enjoyed that.

997
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying the Pavia, the Pavia thing, and I don't

998
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: want to denigrate him just for the sake of denigrating him,

999
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: even though I you know, his program is not to

1000
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: be respected just yet, even though they're coming off a

1001
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: nice season where they had one of the biggest college

1002
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 4: football upsets we may ever see in our lifetimes. Up

1003
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: upsetting Alabama in Nashville last year. But Pave is doing

1004
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 4: a lot of talking, right He's going on Paul Finebam,

1005
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: and he's saying that the that the standard at Vanderbilt

1006
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 4: is national championship when it has never been the standard

1007
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: at Vanderbilt, and hell winning seasons are an upset at Vanderbilt.

1008
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: Bowl eligibility is an upset at Vanderbilt.

1009
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: Their Twitter account put out the fact that they got

1010
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 4: rings for their bowl game win over Georgia Tech this year,

1011
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: and they were the laughing stock of the college football world,

1012
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 4: even though that's an accomplishment for Vanderbilt. So Diego Pavia

1013
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 4: doing a lot of talking in the preseason, it's going

1014
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: to put a big old target on his back, but

1015
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: it is at least going to get people interested in

1016
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: Vanderbilt and following along.

1017
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 5: Whether you're rooting for him or against him.

1018
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: You want to see him continue to talk his talk,

1019
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: or you want to see him silenced because you don't

1020
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: like that kind of arrogance from a player at a

1021
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 4: program that does not historically make waves that way. So

1022
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: the preseason poll is my equivalent to Diego Pavia. And

1023
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 4: also because FITZI like I college football is a better product.

1024
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 4: And I say that as an NFL reporter. And it's

1025
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: not just because like the NFL is my job, and

1026
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: you know, I it's it's the best.

1027
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 5: Job in the world.

1028
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: And getting to travel all over the country and do

1029
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 4: local radio for three hours a day, do national radio

1030
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: with you, and all the different opportunities that's afforded me. Like,

1031
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: I love my job and I love covering the l

1032
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: but college football is way more fun, way more fun.

1033
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: And to see, you know, to see people not necessarily

1034
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: interested in it, because you know, in the Northeast, what

1035
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: do they care? What are you gonna You're gonna pull

1036
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: for Rutgers on a week by week basis, there's gonna

1037
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 4: be a big galvanizing effect of the big ten power.

1038
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 5: Rutgers and things like that.

1039
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: No, of course not. But in the Southeast and the

1040
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 4: Midwest it is tribal this way. And the hatred, the

1041
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: hatred that fuels it as a sport is delightful to me.

1042
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 4: And the way that people will end relationships over college

1043
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 4: football fallouts and things like that, I just find it

1044
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 4: thoroughly satisfying. Beyond just how much more those fan bases

1045
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: care about their programs versus the NFL, where there is

1046
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 4: far more national attention but far less community. It feels

1047
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: safe places like green Bay, Wisconsin, where there is really

1048
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: nothing else to do but go to a green Bay

1049
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 4: Packers game, which, by the way, respectfully with the city

1050
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 4: of green Bay wildly overrated.

1051
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: The Packers games in the city of green Bay.

1052
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: There's nothing to write about about green Bay. Green Bay

1053
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 4: is a god forsaken wasteland in the middle of nowhere.

1054
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean, Lambo's fine. I did a primetime game at

1055
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: Lambeau a couple of years ago. It was, ironically enough,

1056
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: one of the last fun Titans games I've covered. And

1057
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 4: then the offensive coordinator got a dui afterwards because they

1058
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 4: can't handle success.

1059
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 5: So I yeah, I mean it was it was fine.

1060
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 4: I wasn't blown away with it like I was going

1061
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 4: to Kneeland for the first time one hundred and ten

1062
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: thousand on your next screaming the entire time when they

1063
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: haven't mattered on a national championship level for you know,

1064
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: the previous fifteen to twenty years.

1065
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 5: That's that's unique.

1066
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. We played the arena right next to.

1067
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 3: Right next to Lambo several times, and every time I

1068
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: was there, I was like, yeah, it's lambo, it's fine,

1069
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: and you're not wrong. I think for me, it's always

1070
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: a weird situation to be in that nothing moves my

1071
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: soul the way watching an NFL game that I care

1072
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 3: about does, like in a specific the Raiders for me,

1073
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: but obviously like the big Sunday night football game, a

1074
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: great Monday night football game, the afternoon game, like when

1075
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 3: we get these Thanksgiving Chiefs Cowboys games, sort of things

1076
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 3: like that moves my soul. But if I turn on

1077
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: the TV and the only game on on the early

1078
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 3: window where I'm at, if I didn't have the ticket

1079
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 3: was I don't know, Jets Jags, I'm not I'm much

1080
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: more likely to sit down and say, hey, this is

1081
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: a terrible Missouri team taking on a terrible Buffalo team.

1082
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: I watch that.

1083
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: There's something about the environment about college football that to

1084
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: me makes it a better watch