Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about how incredibly complex I spit is.
Speaker 1: It may only be water, but just aliva isn't simple.
Speaker 1: That remaining one percent holds incredibly meaningful information that could
Speaker 1: change everything. And I'm not just talking about your family
Speaker 1: treat Hi. I'm barretton day Thurston and on this season
Speaker 1: of Spit and I Heart Radio podcast with twenty three
Speaker 1: and Me, we explore how DNA isn't just about ancestry,
Speaker 1: it can also be key to understanding your health. What's
Speaker 1: up you and welcome back now. Codein and Devout Ellis
Speaker 1: of Dead Ass always keep it real. Whether they're talking
Speaker 1: about love, sex, marriage, or everything in between. You can
Speaker 1: always count on them to give it to you straight.
Speaker 1: And these two have a lot to say about their DNA.
Speaker 1: To quote Devol, it may sound cliche, but in order
Speaker 1: to know where you're going, you have to know where
Speaker 1: you've been. So code In and Devol have decided to
Speaker 1: take a twenty three and me test, curious to see
Speaker 1: what their DNA could tell them about their health and ancestry.
Speaker 1: As a married couple with kids, health is always top
Speaker 1: of mind, starting with your spouse. Codeine and Devo believe
Speaker 1: it's in your best interest to keep your partner healthy,
Speaker 1: which may sound obvious, but it's something we can easily
Speaker 1: neglect in all the chaos of our everyday lives, and
Speaker 1: what you can learn about your partner's health from twenty
Speaker 1: three and Me can make all the difference, even if
Speaker 1: it's as simple as encouraging them to eat right or
Speaker 1: making sure they're getting enough sleep of exercise. Knowing what
Speaker 1: to look out for is key, and when it comes
Speaker 1: to their kids, it's important for Codeine and Devol to
Speaker 1: not only model what it means to be healthy and proactive,
Speaker 1: but to use the knowledge that they have to teach
Speaker 1: their boys how to take the best care of themselves.
Speaker 1: Let's listen in as these two get real about how
Speaker 1: best to god their sons and themselves to live longer
Speaker 1: and healthier lives, and how the information provided by twenty
Speaker 1: three and Me can help. This may sound cliche, but
Speaker 1: in order to know where you're going, you gotta know
Speaker 1: where you're being dead ass. I I feel that, and
Speaker 1: I mean to be honest, some days I've been looking
Speaker 1: in the mirror and be like, girl, were you really
Speaker 1: from dead? As Hey? I'm Cadine and we're the Ellis
Speaker 1: is You may know us from posting funny videos with
Speaker 1: our boys and reading each other publicly as a form
Speaker 1: of therapy. Wait, I'll make you need therapy most days. Wow.
Speaker 1: And one more important thing to mention, we're married. We are.
Speaker 1: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of
Speaker 1: life's most taboo topics, things most folks don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about through the lens of a millennial married couple.
Speaker 1: Dead as is the term that we say every day.
Speaker 1: So when we say dead ass, we're actually saying facts,
Speaker 1: the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
Speaker 1: Were about to take Phillow Talk to a whole new level.
Speaker 1: Dead ad starts right now. So I'm gonna take this
Speaker 1: back to my elementary school days. Shout out Bethlehem Baptist Academy,
Speaker 1: also known as a Trade with Phield School, East New York,
Speaker 1: across from girlsh from Park, shout out Brooklyn Cozine and
Speaker 1: Van Sicklin. Um was it Stanley and Linden Boulevard. So
Speaker 1: I used to take the school bus when I was
Speaker 1: in elementary school. You know, um four or five, six
Speaker 1: years old. I was a bus kid, and I used
Speaker 1: take the school bus from Flatbush to Brownsville or East
Speaker 1: New York, So you know what that must have been
Speaker 1: like being on the school bus with a bunch of
Speaker 1: young kids and the cheese bus. Yes, And for people
Speaker 1: who don't know, I grew up in the Golden Eras
Speaker 1: of Brooklyn right the late early nineties, late eighties, early nineties,
Speaker 1: so literally it was eighty nine my first time on
Speaker 1: the cheesebus. I was five years old then, right, so
Speaker 1: getting on this cheese bus. And Bethlehem Baptist Academy was
Speaker 1: in elementary school that transitioned all the way through junior
Speaker 1: high school, so you were there from nursery all the
Speaker 1: way through eighth grade. So there was a huge age difference.
Speaker 1: Like I was on the bus with kids who are
Speaker 1: ten years my senior, and I reme getting on the
Speaker 1: bus and all of the older kids we kind of
Speaker 1: like choose which child, like the girls would choose which
Speaker 1: child was their son quote unquote little mother hands, you know,
Speaker 1: so they you know that I was a cute kid,
Speaker 1: and it was just, oh my god, he's so cute.
Speaker 1: That's my son. That's my son. And I remember this girl, Kesha,
Speaker 1: she used to like get me candy and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And there was this one kid named round Mel. And
Speaker 1: another thing people don't understand is that you start to
Speaker 1: get like then you go through identity issues from elementary
Speaker 1: school to junior high school as your body is changed
Speaker 1: and everything's happening, and then you start to figure out
Speaker 1: who you are in the world through your peers. Your
Speaker 1: peers kind to tell you who you are. And I
Speaker 1: remember being on the bus and I think Rommel had
Speaker 1: a crush on Keisha, so he kept like just he
Speaker 1: was always around her, and Keisha was just always paying
Speaker 1: attention to me, and I guess he was kind of
Speaker 1: just like man, kind of jealous in a way, giving
Speaker 1: him no play. So he has said to Keisha, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that can't be your son. It can't be your son.
Speaker 1: Like you black, he not even black. And I remember
Speaker 1: I was six years old and that hit me because
Speaker 1: I'm like, why would he telling why would he say
Speaker 1: I'm not black? And he's like, yo, look he mad
Speaker 1: light skin, He's not even black, he mad yellow. Hes Chinese, Mexican.
Speaker 1: So back in the day, like you know, well, colorism
Speaker 1: still exists today, but back in the day, when you
Speaker 1: was on the cheese bus going from Flatbush to Brownsville,
Speaker 1: you was on the bus with majority brown skin kids.
Speaker 1: So it was like when you was just the light
Speaker 1: skin kid, you know, I used to get picked on.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a light skin kid, you're liking kids.
Speaker 1: So I grew up in a time where you played
Speaker 1: the dozens and you joked on people, and people joked.
Speaker 1: I remember going home and realizing how it was affecting me,
Speaker 1: and I said to my dad, as a dad and
Speaker 1: my black some six you know six, you're still impressionable kid.
Speaker 1: And he was like, hell, yeah, you black? Why Like
Speaker 1: why are you asking me that? And I was telling
Speaker 1: him about Ramel and everything was going on the bus
Speaker 1: and him saying I'm not black and making fun of
Speaker 1: me and over because I was light skinned. So my
Speaker 1: father used to tell me jokes to tell back on people, right,
Speaker 1: So he was just like, yo, you gotta always have
Speaker 1: a joke for everybody when you walk in the room
Speaker 1: and have a counter joke. So he was like, what
Speaker 1: does Ramel look like? So I said, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's a brown skinning kid, you know, kind of bigger
Speaker 1: or whatever. So he said, this is what you tell Ramelo.
Speaker 1: Because my pops is big on letting me handle my
Speaker 1: own conflicts like he wasn't gonna get on the bus
Speaker 1: and pressional fourteen year old. He was like, you say
Speaker 1: to Ramel, you said, Ramel, I in black. I'm telling
Speaker 1: me I'm not black, and you would be light skinned
Speaker 1: too if you took showers. Right. So I was practicing
Speaker 1: the joke. I was practicing the joke, practicing the joke.
Speaker 1: And finally, because he my father, is all about the delivery,
Speaker 1: you got to say at the right time. You can't
Speaker 1: be stumbling and fumbling and bumbling on this joke. So
Speaker 1: I practiced it all day. So I went back and
Speaker 1: I gave him. I told my father joke. He said, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a follow up joke, right, So
Speaker 1: I said, boom, Now I have two jokes going into
Speaker 1: the bus. So the next day going to the bus
Speaker 1: and you know, day that goes my son, days go
Speaker 1: my son, and of course Ral comes over. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not your son. You're not black. He's not even black.
Speaker 1: And I said, shut up right now. Because I was six,
Speaker 1: so my voices that high. I said, shut up right now,
Speaker 1: stop telling me I'm not black. You would be light
Speaker 1: skin too if he took showers. So since I was six,
Speaker 1: it was like cute to everybody right, Like it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he got you right, man, we got your mouse from
Speaker 1: I was like funny and funny, but where he didn't
Speaker 1: know because I had to follow out and the one
Speaker 1: and the two. So then after everybody was laughing, I
Speaker 1: said that why you at it? Get abroad for them
Speaker 1: titties because he was heavy sack and he had a
Speaker 1: little man boobs at fourteen. Everybody was like oh, So
Speaker 1: at that point I was like, yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I won. I won that battle. But
Speaker 1: you know how it affected me for a long time,
Speaker 1: especially through high school. I always wondered like why am
Speaker 1: I soul? Light skin? You know? And it did affect
Speaker 1: me because for a long time from six to seven,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, am I really black? Because I
Speaker 1: just don't look like all the other black people that
Speaker 1: was on the bus. And even though it was all
Speaker 1: jokes and it was fine, I was able to get
Speaker 1: through it. I kind of wanted to know, like, why
Speaker 1: why am I light skin? You know? If if I'm
Speaker 1: black and we're all black, and when you look at
Speaker 1: history of all the you know, prominent black people back
Speaker 1: in the day, they were brown skin, and it made
Speaker 1: me wonder why I look like that? And as a child,
Speaker 1: you want your parents to give you the history of
Speaker 1: who you are, absolutely and if they can't give you
Speaker 1: the history, baby, you're gonna search for it. Now we're searching.
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Speaker 1: but watch the queen ConA. First things first, out eat
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Speaker 1: because that's what a motherfucking monster do. Hey, dressed up,
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Speaker 1: The monster sho and money is the roster and the
Speaker 1: monster crew. And in the face with the money, that
Speaker 1: money ain't. I have to control my breathing. Favorite part
Speaker 1: was coming pull up all up in the bank with
Speaker 1: the funny face, and I think I noticed because your
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Speaker 1: so let me get this straight. I'm the rookie and
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Speaker 1: no album out. My money so tall that my body
Speaker 1: got a climate mentalist, the Climateanta man, she killed that.
Speaker 1: She smashed that freakingverse. Y'all smashed it. Um, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope you were able to sing along. Nikki was
Speaker 1: good for that. If that that like breathing control that
Speaker 1: you had to have on that gift, that's performing that. Yes,
Speaker 1: performing that is great. So shout out to Nicki Minaj. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, So yeah, we're gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 1: Let me catch my breath so I can actually finish
Speaker 1: the podcast actually talk to y'all. All right, so we
Speaker 1: let let's get back into the story time and how
Speaker 1: you were having somewhat of an identity crisis life because
Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't a midlife it wasn't even a
Speaker 1: quarter life crisis. I was six, And I can't even
Speaker 1: say it's a tenth life crisis because I I hope
Speaker 1: to live way longer than sixty years old. Absolutely you will, Yes,
Speaker 1: I will. I call it a fifth life crisis if
Speaker 1: I could be once I've reached my potential years. You
Speaker 1: have done everything you're supposed to do. But um, I
Speaker 1: remember feeling like I just wanted to know why I
Speaker 1: looked the way I look who I was. Um. I've
Speaker 1: always been big on history. Even as a child, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to know. I used to ask my grandparents
Speaker 1: a lot of questions and ask my parents a lot
Speaker 1: of questions and look at photographs of my family and
Speaker 1: you should just see a mix of people. But I
Speaker 1: just wanted to know where did they come from? You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's um. I can totally relate to that because
Speaker 1: growing up too, I was also kind of you know,
Speaker 1: teased in a sense, I guess, not bully per se,
Speaker 1: but just tease. You know. Kids will always try to
Speaker 1: pick out, pick out something that they want to just
Speaker 1: kind of get on you about. And for me, it
Speaker 1: was like, um, having really hairy arms and legs, and
Speaker 1: I mean like not just no regular hairy, like hairy
Speaker 1: hairy to the point now where it was a thing
Speaker 1: where when I used to lotion my arms and legs
Speaker 1: like before gym class, because my mom would like pack
Speaker 1: my gym bag with my uniform and she'd be like,
Speaker 1: you know, make sure you're not actually and put lotion on.
Speaker 1: So I put the lotion on my legs, I would
Speaker 1: have to like strategically like not go back and forth,
Speaker 1: but like like lotion downward so the hairs could all
Speaker 1: like la laid down in the same direction because I
Speaker 1: looked crazy as a girl with mad hairy legs and
Speaker 1: arms and the hair is one of mad different directions.
Speaker 1: And then and shout out to my father that eventually
Speaker 1: allowed me to shave my legs because he totally felt
Speaker 1: like the hair on my body was like the gift
Speaker 1: from God that all women should have for the rest
Speaker 1: of their life. You could love that joint on your wife,
Speaker 1: but on me, No, that was a big battle. Is
Speaker 1: like Candian shaved her legs. Oh my god, let's like
Speaker 1: send out, you know, the army and the military, because
Speaker 1: legs told me one time, please don't repeat it, please don't. Um.
Speaker 1: But they used to be called wolverine till teen wolves,
Speaker 1: things like that, So my dad and mom would just
Speaker 1: explain it, like, you know, that's just your Indian side,
Speaker 1: like you know Indian people in superheroes. So and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I didn't know, Okay, Yeah, you're Indian
Speaker 1: and you're black. I'm like, okay, cool. That was enough
Speaker 1: for me, um. But now we have resources out there
Speaker 1: like twenty three and me okay, and they're able to
Speaker 1: give us a report on where you really come from,
Speaker 1: which is pretty fascinating to me. Part of the reason
Speaker 1: why we chose to work with twenty three and because
Speaker 1: it's not only about where you come from, why you
Speaker 1: look the way you look, but they also give you
Speaker 1: a report for um, some health risks that may be
Speaker 1: a product of your ancestry, so you can find out.
Speaker 1: It's not a diagnosis, it's not a cure, it's not
Speaker 1: going to tell you how to fix anything, but it
Speaker 1: will tell you because of where you've come from and
Speaker 1: what you are, these are the risk the associated risk
Speaker 1: that could be a problem for you based on your
Speaker 1: blood oh for sure, not blessing based on your genetics. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I feel like you know, as a parent of
Speaker 1: four boys, it's really important for us to you know,
Speaker 1: not only model what it means to be healthy and productive,
Speaker 1: but to also use the knowledge that we have to
Speaker 1: teach them how to best take care of yourselves. So
Speaker 1: in this episode, we're going to talk through the genetic
Speaker 1: risks and some strengths found in the twenty three and
Speaker 1: Me profiles that we were able to get through our reports,
Speaker 1: and also too, I don't know if you guys listen
Speaker 1: back a couple episodes maybe last season when we spoke
Speaker 1: to Dr Brown about health risk that black males face
Speaker 1: even and how to consider you know, the best guy
Speaker 1: that we can give our boys to live happier, long longer,
Speaker 1: healthier lives um than we could have imagined or then
Speaker 1: our that our parents could have imagined. And a lot
Speaker 1: of it, I think too, is just feeling like we're
Speaker 1: predisposed to certain illnesses or predisposed to certain health risks
Speaker 1: because it runs in the family. That's always the thing.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, doing that that report when you get
Speaker 1: to the doctor's office and they want to know the
Speaker 1: history not just of your health, but of your parents
Speaker 1: and your grandparents. Going down that entire gamut could be
Speaker 1: very exhausting for some of us because there's so many
Speaker 1: things that you hear about running in the family. But
Speaker 1: it makes me really wonder, and I've wondered this for
Speaker 1: years now, does it really run in the family or
Speaker 1: are we just products of our environment and the things
Speaker 1: that we had to endure for years. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: I mean, when we talk about my family, for example,
Speaker 1: I'll just give you one brief aspect of my report
Speaker 1: that I found out. But um, I'm Alzheimer's. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a genetic trait that makes me at higher
Speaker 1: risk for dementia. And I look at my grandmother who
Speaker 1: end up developing dementia and currently now she has to
Speaker 1: be in a just to living home. Della Della may
Speaker 1: She dropped the periause Della may ellis. I love my grandma.
Speaker 1: She watched me every summer from as young as I
Speaker 1: can remember until I was about fourteen and started playing
Speaker 1: organized sports. And then my uncle Charles, who um, but
Speaker 1: Uncle Charles was like one of the most vibrant men
Speaker 1: I ever met in my life. Like he just every
Speaker 1: time you see him, you would say with something. With Charles,
Speaker 1: you say something. He had a song related to him,
Speaker 1: always singing, and he was singing, and he was just
Speaker 1: always smiling and always in a good mood. And he
Speaker 1: developed early on set Alheimer's in his late fifties, which
Speaker 1: is a shock to all of us because that's young.
Speaker 1: That's extremely wrong. But when you think about what you're
Speaker 1: predisposed to or have a higher risk got genetically, um,
Speaker 1: you can adjust your lifestyle. And I was speaking to
Speaker 1: my cousin Kimberly, who is now like his caretaker and
Speaker 1: helps take care of him a lot um. She was saying,
Speaker 1: had they known, you know, all of these things, UM,
Speaker 1: he could have changed things in his life to either
Speaker 1: prolong his ability to have a normal life or prevented
Speaker 1: it altogether from happening, because he developed legions in his brain,
Speaker 1: and those legions came from stress, lack of sleep, also diet. Right.
Speaker 1: And the reason why this is important is because we're
Speaker 1: so used to UM teaching our kids traditions and conditioning
Speaker 1: them to be a certain way, especially our our black
Speaker 1: man and I say that because we have young we
Speaker 1: have sons. So when we talked to our boys, like
Speaker 1: be tough, you know, team, no sleep, you work hard,
Speaker 1: you do this, you do that, and you really don't
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. But we spoke to Dr Brown,
Speaker 1: I remember him saying that one night of bad sleep
Speaker 1: can be the equivalent of a month of poor diet.
Speaker 1: Three months. That's what was most mind blowing, like three
Speaker 1: months of eating bad which is crazy because I think
Speaker 1: about how many people. For example, my uncle Charles worked
Speaker 1: two or three jobs, you know, because he was consistently
Speaker 1: trying to make ends meet, and he was trying to
Speaker 1: not only help his family, but he helped so many
Speaker 1: other people. So when he was a deacon in the
Speaker 1: church Shout out Cell the Missionary Baptist Church. When he
Speaker 1: had any extra time, he was also doing his deacon duties.
Speaker 1: He was also also a Boy Scout leader, so he
Speaker 1: was always investing his time in his community and trying
Speaker 1: to take care of his family, and he really didn't
Speaker 1: take care of himself. And the reason why that is
Speaker 1: important is because you and I talk about using this
Speaker 1: opportunity as young parents with young kids to teach our
Speaker 1: kids how to take care of themselves from young not
Speaker 1: only in getting enough sleep, but also what you eat.
Speaker 1: You know, and mental health is important. Physical health is important,
Speaker 1: and the best way to go about creating a plan
Speaker 1: for both is knowing where you come from. Like I
Speaker 1: said in my sound Bity, you can't know where you're
Speaker 1: going unless you know where you're being. You know what
Speaker 1: something you said it was pretty interesting and it triggered
Speaker 1: in me the idea when you said that our parents generation,
Speaker 1: for example, like Uncle Charles generation, they worked so hard,
Speaker 1: even Nana so hard to ensure that their children were
Speaker 1: okay and their children's children because you and I were
Speaker 1: both pretty much raised by parents, but grandparents as well,
Speaker 1: which is even more special that we have the opper
Speaker 1: tmtunity to have our parents around for our children now,
Speaker 1: but we a lot of times put the onus on
Speaker 1: our parents to say they didn't do this for us,
Speaker 1: they didn't equipped us to be like this. They dropped
Speaker 1: the ball with that. We tend to be kind of
Speaker 1: hard on our parents, but we don't realize that they
Speaker 1: were really doing everything within their power to make sure
Speaker 1: that we would be okay, to provide for us, and
Speaker 1: that in turn created environments for lack of sleep, um
Speaker 1: for stress. They were under a lot of stress just
Speaker 1: trying to be able to make things work for us.
Speaker 1: I think about my parents who came from Jamaica and St.
Speaker 1: Vincent at young ages with just a suitcase and a dream,
Speaker 1: you know. So the lack of sleep for example, that
Speaker 1: I saw my mother have to endure because she was
Speaker 1: just trying to give us everything. We kind of have
Speaker 1: to give them a little bit of grace in that situation.
Speaker 1: Give them a little bit of grace then all the graces.
Speaker 1: Honestly feel like Millennials and gen z uh, it's a
Speaker 1: gen z Ears because we're millennials, Millennials and Gen z Ears.
Speaker 1: We we do a great job of pointing out all
Speaker 1: of our parents flaws, right, Like, I think that's all
Speaker 1: the trauma. Everything is generation trauma. And even we've talked
Speaker 1: about generational trauma. But what you don't realize is that
Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. There was no
Speaker 1: twenty three and me back then. Technology didn't exist back then,
Speaker 1: the science wasn't as good back then, so our parents
Speaker 1: weren't given the tools we have to be parents now.
Speaker 1: And a lot of times we always talked down about
Speaker 1: what our parents did wrong, as opposed to saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know what I survived, I'm here. They had to
Speaker 1: be doing something right. You know, it's not about what
Speaker 1: you did wrong. But it's like, now that we know better,
Speaker 1: let's do better. And I agree with you on that,
Speaker 1: like our parents did not like, for example, my father
Speaker 1: when it comes to history, yeah, he spoke to his
Speaker 1: mom and his dad, and he spoke his grandmother and
Speaker 1: his grandfather. But now I'm able to get extensive history.
Speaker 1: For example, on the report, I found out that this
Speaker 1: helped me with my um my identity crisis. But um
Speaker 1: I found out that I'm eighty. I think Sub Saharan African,
Speaker 1: and so the first thing I did when I found
Speaker 1: this out, and I think I'm of that eight percent,
Speaker 1: I'm sixty percent Nigerian. So I called my brother and
Speaker 1: I said, you guess what, man, I'm Nigerian too. And
Speaker 1: the first thing you said was, all my brother, we're
Speaker 1: doing this for the green anyway. But it was like
Speaker 1: to find out to find out that, Um, I'm eighty
Speaker 1: percent Subsaharan African. Plus knowing my family's history right then
Speaker 1: I found out I'm seventeen percent or eighteen percent European,
Speaker 1: and I think two percent or less than two percentum indigenous,
Speaker 1: which is kind of maybe a flip for what you thought.
Speaker 1: You probably thought you were more and I thought I
Speaker 1: was more indigenous because of my family's history. My family's history, Um,
Speaker 1: from my mom's side came from reservations and they walked
Speaker 1: the Trail of Tears from Virginia all the way when
Speaker 1: Western experiension happened after Africa. So we found out going back,
Speaker 1: going back and doing history. Me and my sister started
Speaker 1: to put things together and we did twenty three and me,
Speaker 1: but we also just spoke to a lot of people
Speaker 1: in the family to find out who was who. And
Speaker 1: because of our complexion, we thought that we were more
Speaker 1: Indigenous than African, and we found out that we're more
Speaker 1: African and more white, which means our ancestors were part
Speaker 1: of the enslaved people that walk the trailer tears as
Speaker 1: a part of the cargo that the indigenous people received
Speaker 1: when they were forced to move out of the reservations
Speaker 1: in Virginia. So, you know, it helps you not only history,
Speaker 1: so it also helps you find out not not who
Speaker 1: you are, but exactly the place you played in that
Speaker 1: social structure that walked. So, yes, we walked the trailer tears,
Speaker 1: but my family walked the trailer tears as enslaved people.
Speaker 1: They didn't walk the trailer tears as indigenous people. That
Speaker 1: you know that that went out west so and went
Speaker 1: down south. But that also made me feel super proud, right,
Speaker 1: And this is a different take than other people take
Speaker 1: on slavery, but this is to take I take on it.
Speaker 1: If my family was able as enslaved people to exist
Speaker 1: and walk thousands of miles and survive and be able
Speaker 1: to create family structure that is able to create my
Speaker 1: grandparents and then my parents and then me, that has
Speaker 1: had to be some strong people, and that has to
Speaker 1: be something you have to be proud of what I'm
Speaker 1: doing it. I mean, exactly, when did you say there's
Speaker 1: something that you can't do. It's just like bro right,
Speaker 1: My people were equipped to do this, absolutely, absolutely, But
Speaker 1: it also explains my complexion, Right, Why do I look
Speaker 1: fairer skinned because I'm closer to European and African And
Speaker 1: I thought I was more fairer skinned because I was
Speaker 1: more indigenous, because my families walked. My family walked the
Speaker 1: Tale of Tears and Trailer of Tears, and excuse me.
Speaker 1: My sister went as far back is to research names
Speaker 1: associated with my family, and what we found out was
Speaker 1: we thought the Jackson's that's my which is funny because
Speaker 1: my son's name is Jackson. But we thought that Jackson's
Speaker 1: were the Indigenous people who took the land, took the
Speaker 1: name and continued to grow westward with that name Jackson.
Speaker 1: But after doing research, we found out that Jackson was
Speaker 1: the name given to the enslaved people when they were
Speaker 1: distributed to the indigenous people. So we really found out
Speaker 1: the details that were associated with our family and was
Speaker 1: able to say, ah, so these this is where we
Speaker 1: stood in that that is so interesting. Well, listen, y'all,
Speaker 1: usually we do an explanation of karaoke, you know, so
Speaker 1: you understand why the song had anything to do with
Speaker 1: the episode. Right, So we're talking twenty three and me repports,
Speaker 1: we're talking about health. What does monster have to even
Speaker 1: do with this? Huh? So let me give you all
Speaker 1: a little insight. So after teaming up with twenty three
Speaker 1: and me and we were able to not only pinpoint
Speaker 1: the location of our and Stress and Set Street, but
Speaker 1: we're able to see all the genetics and stuff. The
Speaker 1: location was interesting for me because, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: I was just always told, oh, you know, you're Jamaican
Speaker 1: and Indian, you're black and Indian. You look at my
Speaker 1: mom and dad, she's a black woman. He looks like
Speaker 1: he could be Indian. Great, So I guess we weren't
Speaker 1: too far off because according to my reports, let me
Speaker 1: pull it up, drumroll please, but that's my ruse. If
Speaker 1: I clap, Trouble was gonna be mad. She always said,
Speaker 1: you don't clap into MinC So I'm not just gonna
Speaker 1: be my druma already. So it says that I am
Speaker 1: fifty point seven Central and South Asian, which could be Indian. However,
Speaker 1: it is split between Southern Indian and Sri Lankan and
Speaker 1: Northern Indian and Pakistani. So I'm with it that came
Speaker 1: from Sri Lanka. Yeah, that's me. Nicky was talking about me,
Speaker 1: y'all end this episode. Oh no, no, no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: because there's another part too. It tells you where your
Speaker 1: family more than likely during the slave trade landed. Oh. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: So let me give you all the rest of the tea. First,
Speaker 1: about who I am, allow me to reintroduce you, y'all
Speaker 1: to be Um. Yeah, so that's Um, Southern and Northern
Speaker 1: Indian and Sri Lankan in Pakistani. So that's the region.
Speaker 1: And then I am forty one point seven percent sub
Speaker 1: Saharan African, particularly West African, with majority of that being
Speaker 1: Ghanaian Liberian or Sierra Leonian Sierra Leonion. So isn't that
Speaker 1: pretty cool? Yes, my old manager at Max, she's from
Speaker 1: Sierra Leone, so I want to call her up and
Speaker 1: be like girl girl he's also so yeah, so forty
Speaker 1: one percent or at forty one point seven percent, and
Speaker 1: then the remainder, which is another seven percent, is European.
Speaker 1: So it's actually a very small percentage of British and
Speaker 1: Irish as the majority under the European scope for me,
Speaker 1: so now the China, who I really am. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting for me to see. So just going under
Speaker 1: the umbrella of saying, oh, hey, I'm Indian, Um not quite,
Speaker 1: I mean, it gives me a little bit more specific.
Speaker 1: And then, like you said, the great thing about this
Speaker 1: twenty three and report is that it also gives you
Speaker 1: the region that your family was most likely dropped off at,
Speaker 1: and very very very accurate. It told me Jamaica, particularly Clarinet.
Speaker 1: Part of me was like, have y'all been like being
Speaker 1: through my window? Have y'all been going through my stuff?
Speaker 1: You know, people get skeptical about these things. I'm listening.
Speaker 1: If you have an iPhone, they have all your joint
Speaker 1: already anyway, so you don't. Um. But but yeah, so
Speaker 1: it made me think like, wow, you know, they're very
Speaker 1: specific about where we ended up. They put Jamaica down
Speaker 1: um St. Vincent and the Grenadines, which is where my
Speaker 1: dad is from. And then um as well, we saw
Speaker 1: a little bit of Trinidad, and your dad said, you
Speaker 1: have family and Trinidad, NICKI Minaj just my family and Trinidad.
Speaker 1: She wrote a look about me like, maybe she knew
Speaker 1: that's why she kiss with a bad bitch. They came
Speaker 1: from Sri Lanka. Maybe she knew too. Listen, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: her that's that is a fact, Nikki. Let me know
Speaker 1: because we can do let's let's cross let's cross reference
Speaker 1: these results, you know. Um, but it's very interesting too
Speaker 1: because when I think about it, there's so many different Like,
Speaker 1: for example, in St. Vincent alone, if you go to
Speaker 1: the island, there are a ton of different people in St. Vincent.
Speaker 1: It's not just people who are from as we know
Speaker 1: now South Asia, but there are blacks, they're whites there.
Speaker 1: Same is to be said for Jamaica. Jamaica has a
Speaker 1: lot of Asian people, not just Indian Asian, but also
Speaker 1: Asian as in maybe from China. Um. So it's very
Speaker 1: very interesting to see where exactly you might have landed
Speaker 1: in this world. It makes you feel like, wow, you
Speaker 1: may potentially have a greater connection to a certain area
Speaker 1: and it explains why. So um yeah, pretty pretty cool
Speaker 1: results here. Um. Let's dive into more of the health now,
Speaker 1: because in the report they give you an extensive health
Speaker 1: report to let you kind of know what you may
Speaker 1: predisposed to because of genetics. It can also be I'm
Speaker 1: thinking because of geographic location. Okay, what were the available
Speaker 1: resources to you? What was the the nurture nature side
Speaker 1: of things? And then it also makes me think about
Speaker 1: having to survive by any means necessary. So it required
Speaker 1: that our family, our ancestors be able to care for
Speaker 1: themselves or feed their families by eating certain things that
Speaker 1: then induce certain illnesses and ailments. That's more of the
Speaker 1: nurture side, right, So let's dive in. You spoke about
Speaker 1: Alzheimer's already UM from your parents uh and your grandparents sides,
Speaker 1: and then it looks like both of us after comparing
Speaker 1: the results, have hypertension that runs on on both sides.
Speaker 1: So we both have the genetic trait that makes us
Speaker 1: at higher risk for high pertension. And black people already
Speaker 1: in general have a higher risk for that UM compared
Speaker 1: to white counterparts for high blood pressure and there less
Speaker 1: likely to have it under control. So we can talk
Speaker 1: they're less likely to have it under control. And this
Speaker 1: this goes to what we also spoke spoke about with
Speaker 1: Dr Brown was African Americans and Caribbean Americans disapproval and
Speaker 1: distrust in the medical system and the health care system
Speaker 1: now because of things like the Tuskegee experiment. There's been
Speaker 1: and that's not the only one, but there's been that's
Speaker 1: the most popular one that people talk about. UM. There
Speaker 1: has been a huge distrust that has grown between the
Speaker 1: black community and the health care community because of false
Speaker 1: tests and think they were we were given UM diseases
Speaker 1: like syphilis to figure out if they can find cures
Speaker 1: and see what the long term effects would be. So
Speaker 1: for a long time, black people never felt comfortable going
Speaker 1: to their healthcare providers. So and as a Black man,
Speaker 1: I know, you know, I lost have a buddy who
Speaker 1: lost his dad. We're at that age now, where fifties,
Speaker 1: sixty years old, some of them seven years old, Like
Speaker 1: your dad just recently turned seventy. And my buddy lost
Speaker 1: his dad, and I was just like, man, you know,
Speaker 1: how did you lose your dad? They always have blood
Speaker 1: pressure issues and I was like, oh, it was it
Speaker 1: was issues, said no, it wasn't really an issue. He
Speaker 1: just didn't want to take his medication. And I was
Speaker 1: just like, why why wouldn't he take his medication? And
Speaker 1: he was like, well, the blood pressure medication UM gave
Speaker 1: him erectile dysfunction because the blood. You know, the penis
Speaker 1: is a muscle, but it requires blood to becoming erect
Speaker 1: and when the blood flow becomes an issue, it causes
Speaker 1: an issue with erectile dysfunction. And he didn't want to
Speaker 1: have that issue. So he's just like, oh, I can
Speaker 1: I can manage this on my own. Went to sleep
Speaker 1: one night and just never woke up in the morning.
Speaker 1: Because blood pressure is like a silent killer. You feel
Speaker 1: like you're fine and then boom, you know, something happens,
Speaker 1: And there are always socio economic reasons why when you
Speaker 1: reason like that, it's just like black you know, African
Speaker 1: Americans are are believed to be at a higher risk
Speaker 1: and less likely to have it under control. They say
Speaker 1: it as if we just don't have stuff under control.
Speaker 1: They don't speak about the unmitigating factors like, um, the
Speaker 1: fact that we have healthcare issues, the fact that we
Speaker 1: can't afford healthcare at a higher rate than our white counterparts,
Speaker 1: because socio economically, we majority of black people in America
Speaker 1: live below the poverty law for sure. None of that's
Speaker 1: really unpacked. It's just kind of an umbrella term that
Speaker 1: we use for black just at a higher risk, but
Speaker 1: how high risk? Watch why? And is it nature verse nurture?
Speaker 1: Absolutely no, one of these things will help us make
Speaker 1: better decisions for our children and our future. That's why
Speaker 1: I keep saying, you can't know where you're going to,
Speaker 1: you know where you've been. Think about diet when you
Speaker 1: say um. African Americans, for example, are believed to carry
Speaker 1: a gene that makes us more salt sensitive. If that's
Speaker 1: true or not, we don't know. But what tends to happen.
Speaker 1: For example, way way back in the day, during the
Speaker 1: enslaved times, right, you're given the scraps to eat, right,
Speaker 1: they'll take they'll they'll be the pig, but they'll give you.
Speaker 1: They'll take the pork shoulders, they'll take the pork rolls
Speaker 1: to take the the healthier health meteor meets yeah, and
Speaker 1: it gave me defeat the tail, the tail, what else?
Speaker 1: The tongue, the tongue, the intestines, which chitterlings. And it's
Speaker 1: a delicacy, a very expensive delicacy. Now listen, you know
Speaker 1: I remember the first time tricked me into trying chitterlings. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm walking into your house and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? Like hot arm pitting here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is happening? So I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: it did smell like hot armpit? What is going on
Speaker 1: in here? So your father was over there, you know,
Speaker 1: making this pot of something, and he didn't tell me
Speaker 1: what it was. And me being of cribbing descent, I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever had chilings like we've had tripe.
Speaker 1: I've never actually had it, but my family will carry
Speaker 1: some tripe whenever they're ready, you know. So I remember
Speaker 1: tripe is the intestine of the cow, so it's the
Speaker 1: same as exactly exactly likely smelled like asked too. One
Speaker 1: of my grandmother was making the tripe, but I definitely
Speaker 1: felt like I walked in the house and it smelled
Speaker 1: like hot ass and armpit. So I was like, damn.
Speaker 1: So your father was just like, oh man, try this,
Speaker 1: like you know, he was excited about. You know your
Speaker 1: father get excited about and if he saying it tastes good,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust that it tastes good because he is
Speaker 1: definitely a good judge of food. Right, So I remember that,
Speaker 1: and he took out the hot so seeing the frank okay,
Speaker 1: so that's like the staple in your household. So he's
Speaker 1: lathering on the hot So he's like, you're like hot souce,
Speaker 1: You're like spice, right. I'm like yeah, So he's lading
Speaker 1: on that hot sauce and I'm like it, give me
Speaker 1: more hot sauce because you know I love hot you
Speaker 1: love spicy food. Man, when I took a bite of
Speaker 1: that me trying to be polite, you ain't you ain't
Speaker 1: this This is interesting taste, the texture is quite you know,
Speaker 1: it's lot gummy. What exactly is this? And he was like, man,
Speaker 1: this is I was like, oh, I gotta can't believe.
Speaker 1: Like the A said, first of all, my adventist family
Speaker 1: barely eats pork. Okay, my mom was at all. My dad,
Speaker 1: my dad, you know he'll he'll dip in, dab in
Speaker 1: a little pork. But curry, I love a jump or
Speaker 1: you got someone that juke pol so, you know, definitely
Speaker 1: SUTs like, oh my god, I'm like what if I
Speaker 1: what if it was against my religion to eat these shipless?
Speaker 1: It should be against anybody's religion to eat them chipless.
Speaker 1: So in that moment, I'm just saying that to say,
Speaker 1: you get the pig intestines. You put everything you need
Speaker 1: to put in it, whether it's the salt, where there's
Speaker 1: the sugar, whether it's a butter, you have to make
Speaker 1: it taste good. And if you're feeding your family the scraps,
Speaker 1: you had to find a way to make a taste
Speaker 1: of slimming. Excess salt, excess sugar, butter, lard, gravy, all
Speaker 1: of those things. Do we not think that that's eventually
Speaker 1: going to affect That becomes a culturing like a blood pressure. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: eating all of that salt and sugar and then coupling
Speaker 1: it with oh, because onto diabetes, right, my perfect, perfect,
Speaker 1: perfect to diabetes and give them a little factul pick
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, and then you can elaborate on it.
Speaker 1: But type two diabetes has a stronger link to family
Speaker 1: history and lineage than type one, and studies of twins
Speaker 1: shown that the genetics play a very strong role in
Speaker 1: the development of type two diabetes, and race can also
Speaker 1: play a role in this as well. Absolutely, but type
Speaker 1: two diabetes is completely preventable through your lifestyle choices. So
Speaker 1: that's why I'm glad. I'm actually happy you read that first,
Speaker 1: because if you think about lifestyle choices, think about our cultures.
Speaker 1: You were both people of color, but we both have
Speaker 1: mixes of different colors in the right. But one thing
Speaker 1: is consistent. All of those different colors have gone through
Speaker 1: hardships because of colonialism, and part of colonialism meant that
Speaker 1: their people were marginalized. And when you're marginalized, you have
Speaker 1: to find ways to survive. So you just talked about
Speaker 1: all this wraps you're given, right, given the pigs no out,
Speaker 1: the pigtail, the pig hoofs um, the stomach lining, and
Speaker 1: the intestines. That's not a lot of the pig. But
Speaker 1: you still have to feed a family. So how do
Speaker 1: you make this meal good enough for the family? You
Speaker 1: take all that stuff up, you make a gravy and
Speaker 1: you sprinkle it over large tubs of rice so that
Speaker 1: these people can still work and and and that becomes
Speaker 1: the culture. For example, think about the movie Soul Food.
Speaker 1: Think about how how ironic soul food is. Every Sunday,
Speaker 1: this family got together to fix this food that was
Speaker 1: filled with saturated facts and sugars and butters and oils
Speaker 1: and salts and starts. Big Mama, who was the epic
Speaker 1: center of the family, ends up dying from diabetes caused
Speaker 1: by eating this food. And you know how they celebrated
Speaker 1: her death getting together to eat more food. Because that's
Speaker 1: the culture. Right. So when you say African Americans and
Speaker 1: race or Caribbean Americans are more susceptible to type two
Speaker 1: die A beauties because of culture, that's true. Because we
Speaker 1: make lifestyle choices based on traditions, and if tradition means
Speaker 1: that you're slowly killing yourself, some of us are not
Speaker 1: aware enough to realize that that's exactly what we're existing in.
Speaker 1: We're existing in a tradition that's slowly killing us. And
Speaker 1: that seguates us to talking into children and how using
Speaker 1: this twenty three and me report helped us make greater
Speaker 1: lifestyle choices for our sons. For example, telling the story
Speaker 1: about the porridge. Oh yeah, right, right right, So I
Speaker 1: actually have two stories related to like diabetes. If you
Speaker 1: want to say it could be a segue to it
Speaker 1: the porridge with some Well, porridge is something that is
Speaker 1: very big in a Criman household. You can do different
Speaker 1: types of porighes, planting porridges, cormeal powrighes, how many corn
Speaker 1: pridge um And that's something that my grandmother gave us
Speaker 1: as babies My mom and her siblings had that as
Speaker 1: they were growing up, and it's a staple. You go
Speaker 1: to any Caremian restaurant, you're gonna definitely find cornmeal, powdge
Speaker 1: of some sort of porridge as a breakfast item. But
Speaker 1: when you really dissect what it is, it's corn, which
Speaker 1: is a starch. Okay, which I learned later on in life.
Speaker 1: I always thought corner was a vegetable and it was
Speaker 1: my favorite. It ain't a vegetable. It's a starch. So
Speaker 1: you're having corn that's dried up and mild, and then
Speaker 1: you proceed to boil it in water with milk, and
Speaker 1: then you have you know, you're cinnamon. You're not paying
Speaker 1: things to make it taste good. And then you have
Speaker 1: to add the sugar, of course, and you're just adding
Speaker 1: a regular sugar. It is the condensed milk, right, You
Speaker 1: have to say it like that, the condensed, right, the
Speaker 1: condensed milk or condensed milk, and that is just even
Speaker 1: more so thick sugar. It's just all sugar. It's literally
Speaker 1: all sugar between the condensed milk and the corn. You're
Speaker 1: eating sugar for breakfast. And I remember as a kid
Speaker 1: smelling it in the air when my mom would be
Speaker 1: making it, and I would start to instantly like cry
Speaker 1: because I hated podge. It was a texture thing for me.
Speaker 1: But when it came to my children, even my grandmother,
Speaker 1: you know, bless her heart, love where she comes and
Speaker 1: stays with us, you know, pre covid like every you know,
Speaker 1: holiday season, and she was just recently here with us
Speaker 1: for a month and she was like, wait, you don't
Speaker 1: start the baby pant calm in porridge yet. And I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, well, yeah, Grandma, you know, I
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna just give it
Speaker 1: to him in moderation because I just don't want because
Speaker 1: even when I gave it to the kids growing up,
Speaker 1: like I never put too much sugar in it, but
Speaker 1: it really is just a filler. So when I said
Speaker 1: to her, you know, Grandma, nowadays we don't really give
Speaker 1: too much porridge and cereal and all that in the milk. So,
Speaker 1: you know, her and my mom look at each other
Speaker 1: and then yeah, when no young people, then you like
Speaker 1: to reinvent the wheel, you know, like after after after
Speaker 1: your rears pan calm in porridge or you mean or
Speaker 1: you mean, and I'm just like well, Grandma, you know
Speaker 1: it's just a filler now, So why not give the
Speaker 1: baby like actual like protein or like vegetables for breakfast
Speaker 1: versus just giving filler stuff. And she said, and that's
Speaker 1: why the baby not sleep at night. You must put
Speaker 1: look a porridgeing in battle and then we'll drink it
Speaker 1: and sleep not tired. Look Pine, you look pe devout,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I know, Grandma, I know we're tired,
Speaker 1: but we're just not going to give him like a
Speaker 1: filler just to make him sleep longer, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that and then think about this. You
Speaker 1: go to your favorite Caribbean restaurant right, look forward to
Speaker 1: going home so we can go yard Style or any
Speaker 1: other restaurant that we enjoyed. Yeah, Golden Crusts flat Lands
Speaker 1: between a hundred and hundred for please go support a
Speaker 1: lot y'ard still in Brooklyn. Facts they make the best,
Speaker 1: the best oxtail and a really good steel chicken and
Speaker 1: some the chicken soup slap. But anyway, when you go there,
Speaker 1: my only gripe with with them. In any restaurants of
Speaker 1: Caribbean flavor, you're gonna ask for a large ox sail.
Speaker 1: For example, what kind of rice, rice and peas? Well,
Speaker 1: first before you even get there, you have to ask
Speaker 1: do you have oxtail because you're liable to order it?
Speaker 1: And them said what right? So if them you already
Speaker 1: arris and peas and your oxtail and you literally get
Speaker 1: rice and p ease with a side of oxtail and
Speaker 1: maybe either a steam vege or a salad. Right, and
Speaker 1: then you be piste because you just paid almost thirty
Speaker 1: dollars for a large oxtail and there's about four pieces
Speaker 1: in it. But right, there's two things. Number one, it's
Speaker 1: not just the business structure. When your mom makes my
Speaker 1: play or when she used to make my place, she
Speaker 1: used to pound my plate up with rice too and
Speaker 1: then put like a small piece of chickens. And I
Speaker 1: used to be like, yo, this is not gonna work
Speaker 1: for me. It's not. That's just the culture is just rice, rice, rice,
Speaker 1: mad rice on it. And but what happened though the
Speaker 1: rice slap right, because we're not just making any regular
Speaker 1: old rice is rice with the coconut milk. Coconut milk.
Speaker 1: You know, you put a piece of skeleton in it,
Speaker 1: you put some time, you put some seasons, put some
Speaker 1: piece and that in itself is in me. Like I've
Speaker 1: had moments where I'm like, just give me the rice
Speaker 1: and pieces with some gravy and I'm going to go,
Speaker 1: you know, extra graper pond of rice. So all of
Speaker 1: that essentially turns into sugar. It's the starch, and that
Speaker 1: is in turn why I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people of Caribbean descent have sugar as the same thing down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have, and that's why you have diabetes because of that.
Speaker 1: And that's just the thing that we've learned over the years.
Speaker 1: If it's not going to be rising ps its ground provision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, eat those things. Those are all starch rooted
Speaker 1: and they all convert to sugar. And that's what what
Speaker 1: Canina and I talked about, the nature versus nurture. That's
Speaker 1: more of nurture. Now, the next thing I want to
Speaker 1: talk about is a little bit more nature. Sickle cell
Speaker 1: um codeine has the sickle cell trade. So we necessarily
Speaker 1: didn't need the twenty three and me report to tell
Speaker 1: us this. But the reason why we bring this up
Speaker 1: is because in the twenty three and me report, you'll
Speaker 1: find out about that because of your genetics. And it
Speaker 1: was interesting enough for us because when Codeine got pregnant
Speaker 1: with Jackson, she was running through the full gamut of
Speaker 1: everything she needed to prepare for the pregnancy. And that's
Speaker 1: when we found out that Codeine has the sickle cell trade.
Speaker 1: So then they asked me immediately, Devout, do you have
Speaker 1: the sickle cell trade? And I had never asked my
Speaker 1: entire life. At this point, I'm twenty, about to be
Speaker 1: seven years old, I've never asked my physician if I
Speaker 1: had the sickle cell trade even a thing to hear,
Speaker 1: even like, of course you hear of the disease sickle
Speaker 1: cell anemia, but you never even I never even heard
Speaker 1: of the trade or potentially caring. My mom knew. My
Speaker 1: mom knew because the minute I asked, she said, no,
Speaker 1: you don't have the trade. And I said, and I
Speaker 1: guess you know now now when I think about the
Speaker 1: reason why she never told me I had the trades,
Speaker 1: because since I didn't have the trade, I didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to worry about. But if I did have the trade,
Speaker 1: I would have had to say to you, I have
Speaker 1: the trade. Because if I have the sickle cell trade
Speaker 1: and Gadeen has the sickle cell trade, it's more than
Speaker 1: likely that one of our children, all of our children
Speaker 1: could be born with sickle cell anemia R blown And
Speaker 1: it's important for you to know these. I don't want
Speaker 1: to call them health risk, but these genetic traits because
Speaker 1: when you're dating someone, you wouldn't want to know, Hey,
Speaker 1: if we decided to have children, our children could be
Speaker 1: born with an immune deficiency because we both have the trade.
Speaker 1: And we found out that three of our four boys
Speaker 1: have the trade. Jackson is the only one who doesn't
Speaker 1: have the trade, but Kiro, Kaz, Dakota all have the
Speaker 1: ciicles trade exactly something we have to make sure that
Speaker 1: they know. Um, when you think about it. When you
Speaker 1: think about it too, when you are pregnant, it's like
Speaker 1: your body goes under this mini stress test, so they
Speaker 1: want to test everything. So anything that potentially may show
Speaker 1: up in your life or in your history is going
Speaker 1: to show up while you're pregnant. So in that I
Speaker 1: was able to find out I had the sickle cell trade.
Speaker 1: And it was the thing where I even called my
Speaker 1: brother and my sister was like, hey, y'all, I had
Speaker 1: the trade. Turns out my mom had it as well
Speaker 1: or has it as well too, so she's the one
Speaker 1: who passed it on to me, and then in turn
Speaker 1: I passed it on to my children. So when you're
Speaker 1: looking at certain things like that, that's, you know, part
Speaker 1: of history or part of your genetics. Um. Not only
Speaker 1: is it important for you to know for yourself, but
Speaker 1: you need to know for your children. Like we said,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna say something else after after that, I
Speaker 1: was saying, um, as it pertains to having children when
Speaker 1: you got the COVID. When we all got COVID the
Speaker 1: same time around my birthday last year, that's when we
Speaker 1: started to see some differences in how people, if sickle
Speaker 1: cell anemia or the trade respond to COVID because their
Speaker 1: blood coagulates differently and people will get developing blood clots
Speaker 1: and some developing strokes. And the reason why this is
Speaker 1: important is because if you have a young child, male
Speaker 1: or female, who's an athlete and they have sickle cell
Speaker 1: anemia or they may have the sickle cellinemia traite and
Speaker 1: may have suffered from COVID, that could be a reason
Speaker 1: why they may have difficulty breathing or working out after
Speaker 1: they are done with COVID. For example, so the young
Speaker 1: man from Florida, I can't remember his name who passed out.
Speaker 1: I think it was two weeks after being done with COVID.
Speaker 1: He went through COVID protocols, everything was good, and this
Speaker 1: was he went out on his senior year first game,
Speaker 1: was walking out in the court after the time out
Speaker 1: and just passed out. And they didn't know what was
Speaker 1: happening until they took all the blood tests. Now they
Speaker 1: didn't reveal because it's his family. What did the blood
Speaker 1: tests reveal? But over time we found out that people
Speaker 1: with sickle cell anemia or the trade are hospitalized two
Speaker 1: to one after having COVID than people who don't. So
Speaker 1: when you have children, it really makes you wonder. The
Speaker 1: more I know about my family, can I protect my
Speaker 1: children even with sports, even if it doesn't have anything
Speaker 1: to do with COVID. I should make sure they eat
Speaker 1: differently if their bodies require something different. Remember Um, David
Speaker 1: Price's dad, God rest the soul he passed away from
Speaker 1: cancer for David Price's dad used to tell David all
Speaker 1: the time, man, you guys, he's Jamaican to you guys,
Speaker 1: used to eat right for your blood type. And we
Speaker 1: used to be like, what does that even meant? Right
Speaker 1: for your blood type? But then this book came out
Speaker 1: and it was we got the book and it was
Speaker 1: talking about eating right for your blood type and how
Speaker 1: we all have different genetic traits that require us, because
Speaker 1: of different blood types, to eat certain foods. You know
Speaker 1: what blew my mind when I read that book was that. So.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever shared on the podcast before,
Speaker 1: but my mother had a heart attack at Okay, and
Speaker 1: that is a large part of the reason why, aside
Speaker 1: from her helping to be a part of our village,
Speaker 1: to help with our children and give de vol and
Speaker 1: I have some reprieve whenever we need that. My mother
Speaker 1: worked a very stressful job. She was a director of
Speaker 1: nursing for years at a nursing home. Prior to that,
Speaker 1: worked in home care, long term care, all that, and
Speaker 1: she was under a lot of stress, a lot of stress.
Speaker 1: And in reading about our particular blood type, because we
Speaker 1: have the same blood type, it showed that stress stress
Speaker 1: alone was a huge cause of potential heart attack and
Speaker 1: heart disease, heart disease because of our actual blood type
Speaker 1: over any other blood type. And that was just mind
Speaker 1: blowing to me because when my mother had the heart
Speaker 1: attack at fifty, we could not figure out how you
Speaker 1: have this woman who is vibrant, she's working a lot.
Speaker 1: Granted she may not be eating the best in terms
Speaker 1: of like at all the heart attack, she hadn't eaten
Speaker 1: for thirty six hours. She had a half a bottle. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she had like a yogurt something. And my mother has
Speaker 1: never had a big appetite. Like we put a big
Speaker 1: plate of food in front of her, she's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, food, you know. So she she for the
Speaker 1: most part, didn't eat frequently, but she didn't eat poorly.
Speaker 1: You know. She wasn't eating like the things that you
Speaker 1: say would probably need. And she doesn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of Salt is a silent killer, but salt is really
Speaker 1: a silent killer. Guy. She was eating some, she wasn't
Speaker 1: the tetos, not sleeping, not drinking enough water, and she
Speaker 1: was working out and stressed and stress. Yea, So my
Speaker 1: mother was under just overall, her body was over and
Speaker 1: she wasn't sleeping. You know, even to this day now
Speaker 1: she'll be like, oh, I can't sleep, like I can.
Speaker 1: I only need a couple of hours sleep. Um, and
Speaker 1: she doesn't have attack take the subject. But this is
Speaker 1: part of the reason why I worked so hard to
Speaker 1: take care of you the way awake I worked to
Speaker 1: take care of you, right. I look at the way
Speaker 1: our parents, both of them, your parents and my parents
Speaker 1: just worked like they just worked so hard, and I
Speaker 1: admire they their ability to just work and they only
Speaker 1: worked to create a legacy for us. We we both
Speaker 1: have to We both have a brother and sister. Um
Speaker 1: they're both the leaders and their families. So they both
Speaker 1: helped their families as well as helping their kids. But
Speaker 1: I look at your mom, I look at my mom.
Speaker 1: My mom still works, right, And I want to be
Speaker 1: able as just a man to be able to say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I made my wife's life as stress
Speaker 1: free as possible. You know what I'm saying, because if
Speaker 1: we have to look out for each other. And I
Speaker 1: noticed a little bit off topic, but just listening to
Speaker 1: you speak about it and thinking about how because this
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we talk about being of service
Speaker 1: to each other. When you know your partners um deficiencies,
Speaker 1: health deficiencies, you know they have issues, potential risks, it
Speaker 1: is it would be in your best interests if you
Speaker 1: want your partner to be there for the long haul
Speaker 1: to make sure you do everything in your power to
Speaker 1: make sure they're good. I know you need sleep all
Speaker 1: the time. I'm asked you because you remind me and
Speaker 1: your mom still going, going, going, going going. Did you
Speaker 1: eat yesterday? God's mind you. We went to bed late
Speaker 1: last couple of nights. The whole podcast crew is here
Speaker 1: and shout out trouble, Matt, Dave, Josh, they're all here,
Speaker 1: and went to bed early last night. But before she
Speaker 1: went to bed, I think it was my twelve thirty,
Speaker 1: she said, oh, I didn't eat today. And you see
Speaker 1: how we always talk about our parents and how our
Speaker 1: parents didn't do things the right way. Here we are
Speaker 1: doing the same ship that they did, talking about my
Speaker 1: parents should have did better for themselves. And you don't
Speaker 1: realize that. You're like, what were you doing? Why didn't
Speaker 1: you eat? And it's like, well, ship, I had to
Speaker 1: work out because you came in and we all we
Speaker 1: both hold each other accountable with working out. And that's
Speaker 1: one thing that would be on my back about. And
Speaker 1: it's not about just me having whatever he deems a
Speaker 1: perfect figure. He wants my internal body to be okay
Speaker 1: after the postpartum reclampsion. I'm me on you about trying
Speaker 1: to get sleep and working and working out for sure,
Speaker 1: But I was like, shoot, I was like getting the kids.
Speaker 1: You know, Cath need his school uniform, take clothes for
Speaker 1: the morning this time. And there's so many things that
Speaker 1: had to be done by the end of the night
Speaker 1: once the kids are asleep that I didn't realize. I
Speaker 1: didn't even bring it eat all day, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's just we have that accountability system with each other.
Speaker 1: And I mean, let me tell you all days, it
Speaker 1: ain't roses because he'd be like, did you work out
Speaker 1: to day? You come to work out now, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like working out, studs just tired. But
Speaker 1: then trying to say, you know what, at the very least,
Speaker 1: like we've discovered. You told me recently that everybody should
Speaker 1: be trying to walk at least twenty minutes a day.
Speaker 1: That's bare minimum minimum. And he I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the people people listen to me right now because everybody
Speaker 1: got excuses and I have time. I had so much.
Speaker 1: There's nobody in the world, no matter how busy you are,
Speaker 1: don't have twenty minutes to walk straight, just twenty minutes
Speaker 1: straight consistently every single day. Nobody get up and just
Speaker 1: walk twenty minutes straight. And I'm not talking about a stroll,
Speaker 1: a brisk walk that develops a sweat, because when you
Speaker 1: take a stress test, the first thing they do is
Speaker 1: put you on a treadmill and make you walk for
Speaker 1: twenty minutes to see if you can sustain it. You
Speaker 1: have to be able to do that, right. It's just
Speaker 1: good for heart health. Now, there are some physical benefits
Speaker 1: you'll gain from walking, but heart health is important. Circulation
Speaker 1: is important. We're talking about mental health, the ability for
Speaker 1: your brain to relax while you just you know, now,
Speaker 1: don't even put on music, get some meditation music, and
Speaker 1: just walk and don't think about anything else except just
Speaker 1: going twenty minutes straight at the bricks vers. Wish I
Speaker 1: was doing that for me. Sometimes I'm like, shoot, I
Speaker 1: have to check these emails and then I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: I how to walk though, So sometimes I can't even
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to turn my mental health. But it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: if I can get on this treadmill, do a consistent
Speaker 1: walk and just like breathe through, delete emails whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: like do some housekeeping stuff, you know, little things like that,
Speaker 1: do some touch bases, jump on the phone with some
Speaker 1: money and be like, hey, and A, I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: call you back, like, use those opportunities to be able
Speaker 1: to at least get that twenty minutes in. So that's
Speaker 1: super super important. Um, and then I'm going to divolt
Speaker 1: something that I probably never divulged. I don't think do
Speaker 1: anyone really well? You do know because alright, prior to
Speaker 1: having Dakota and I and I re gonna start something
Speaker 1: when when you say this, but go ahead, you think
Speaker 1: of us our something. I know because I know the Internet,
Speaker 1: I know Beyonce's Internet, and I know the minute you
Speaker 1: say this is people gonna be saying, go a head,
Speaker 1: go ahead. No, okay, so what we're gonna out? So
Speaker 1: our preface it by saying we're not gonna go ahead,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why we're gonna go ahead. So
Speaker 1: this was something that was thought out. It's not something
Speaker 1: that we just arrived at all willy nilly and was
Speaker 1: just like I will see how it goes. So prior
Speaker 1: to even get it pregnant with Dakoda, Devin and I
Speaker 1: want defense about four or five kids. Do we have
Speaker 1: one more or do we have two more? I will
Speaker 1: say that even while I was pregnant with Dakoda. Through
Speaker 1: my pregnancy, I was kind of warming up to the
Speaker 1: idea of potentially having one more and hitting y'all with
Speaker 1: a back to back like like how kirroon Cass came
Speaker 1: back to that. I was like, you know what, if
Speaker 1: I'm if this is gonna be the end, I might
Speaker 1: as well have this fourth baby, who's the coda and
Speaker 1: then just do it one more time and get it
Speaker 1: over with. And it didn't matter, and it didn't matter
Speaker 1: to us if it was a boy or a girl,
Speaker 1: because we had this conversation before and it was just like,
Speaker 1: if we have four, we have four boys. If we
Speaker 1: try for the fifth and we have five boys, we
Speaker 1: have a full basketball team, that's the fact. But if
Speaker 1: we have four and a girl, then we finally got
Speaker 1: our girls. So from the very beginning when we were
Speaker 1: deciding this, it was never about a certain sex or gender.
Speaker 1: It was just about having four or five kids, right
Speaker 1: because I felt like we were in a space where
Speaker 1: initially I was like, man, I only want like two
Speaker 1: or three kids, because I was thinking about our circumstances.
Speaker 1: We were in Brooklyn, we were still busting our ass
Speaker 1: day in and day and we still bust our ass
Speaker 1: to this day on a different level. And we had
Speaker 1: the space here. So in my bliss being here in
Speaker 1: our new home and being pregnant with our fourth child,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, we do have extra rooms. So if
Speaker 1: we did have a fifth child, no problem with five
Speaker 1: is my favorite number. So people don't know that, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's like, do we do the even thing or do
Speaker 1: we do the odd thing? So UM, I was warming
Speaker 1: up to the idea of it. I will admit that
Speaker 1: the thing that put the kabash in it for me,
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things where you pray for
Speaker 1: um a sign, you pray for some direction. You're like, God,
Speaker 1: you know if this is for me, let me know
Speaker 1: if it ain't for me, removing from my life. After
Speaker 1: having CODA at home, pristine pregnancy, pristine labor, and also
Speaker 1: talking about um the way coalulates, they had me on
Speaker 1: blood thinner so like a baby, I should say, not
Speaker 1: blood thinner, but a baby aspirin um every day of
Speaker 1: my pregnancy with CODA because they were concerned potentially about
Speaker 1: that being an issue for me because of the protein
Speaker 1: spid after having covid, because I had COVID at the
Speaker 1: very beginning, before I even knew I was pregnant with CODA.
Speaker 1: In retrospect now I'm like, wow, it's about five weeks
Speaker 1: pregnant and I had COVID and it was pregnant with CODA.
Speaker 1: So that was alarming in itself for me. But pristine pregnancy,
Speaker 1: pristine home birth, had CODA. Nine days later, ends up
Speaker 1: with skyrocketing blood pressure, insane headache that would not go away,
Speaker 1: swelling in my my hands, at my feet. I had
Speaker 1: to go to the emergency room immediately because my midwife
Speaker 1: was concerned, and when I got there, was met with
Speaker 1: a triage nurse who tried to maintain her cool, but
Speaker 1: I can also see the concern in her face when
Speaker 1: she told me that I would have to be admitted
Speaker 1: immediately because my blood pressure at that point was like
Speaker 1: over likelous, ridiculous, and I'm your normal sixty seventy kind
Speaker 1: of person. She came into me and she said, um, hey,
Speaker 1: Mr Rellis, we have we have your wife. We're gonna
Speaker 1: admit her now. It says everything okay, And she said
Speaker 1: we're gonna admit her now right now. We have to
Speaker 1: get her started on magnesium. We have to get that
Speaker 1: blood pressure down. It's a good thing you brought her in.
Speaker 1: And I said that she gonna be okay. She was
Speaker 1: just like, it's a good thing that you brought her in,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, is my wife gonna
Speaker 1: be okay? She said, your wife could have went to
Speaker 1: sleep and not woke up. And she said this happens
Speaker 1: more often than not. Two people they feel like they
Speaker 1: have a headache, that something's not right, and they think
Speaker 1: it's oh, I'm not sleeping. And then he said, you
Speaker 1: know how many people coming here and they were seconds
Speaker 1: away from having an aneurysm or having a stroke or
Speaker 1: going into some sort of of cardiac arrest because something
Speaker 1: didn't feel right and they were just going to sleep
Speaker 1: it off. And that reminds me of your mom. Your
Speaker 1: mom left the gym that day, said she didn't feel
Speaker 1: well and said I'm just gonna go upstairs and taken
Speaker 1: and your brother said, Mom, let me check your vitals
Speaker 1: and said, this don't feel right. We're going into the hospital.
Speaker 1: Imagine if your brother and if if Takia or I
Speaker 1: didn't take you, or your mom's in the hospital. It's
Speaker 1: crazy how God works, because my brother wasn't even supposed
Speaker 1: to be home that day. But you see how and
Speaker 1: he was home close that is the home. Like you
Speaker 1: see how we could have been talking about your mom
Speaker 1: not being here, and we could have talked about you
Speaker 1: not being here. And these are just regular days. It
Speaker 1: was nothing catastrophic that happened, right, This is a regular
Speaker 1: day that we made a choice. And you know why
Speaker 1: we didn't go that day was because the val had
Speaker 1: to leave for the Soul Train Awards and she was
Speaker 1: here doing his fitting and I had the baby, and
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, my head doesn't fear right.
Speaker 1: But to me in my moment, in that moment, I
Speaker 1: was like, I want to make sure you're good, like
Speaker 1: we always wanted to make sure everybody else is good
Speaker 1: and then in turn not taking care of ourselves. So
Speaker 1: and get into the hospital and realizing that, wow, I
Speaker 1: was diagnosed with postpartum preclampsha, which normally you hear about
Speaker 1: preclamption while pregnant, so that's having high blood pressure issues
Speaker 1: during the pregnancy. Never had any sign of that. So
Speaker 1: what I learned is, like I said earlier, when your
Speaker 1: body is under this mini stress tests as a pregnant woman,
Speaker 1: it kind of gives you a little bit of inclination
Speaker 1: or a little triggers to let you know, hey, having
Speaker 1: high blood pressure while pregnant means that there's a very
Speaker 1: great possibility that you will have blood pressure hypertension issues
Speaker 1: in the future. And that's something that I don't even
Speaker 1: want to speak over my life because y'all can have
Speaker 1: y'all little triggers and y'all a little you know, pregnacy signs,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to speak high pretension over my life. However,
Speaker 1: I do know that it runs in my family. So
Speaker 1: whatever I can do now to help to prevent that,
Speaker 1: whatever lifestyle changes I need to prevent now. I mean
Speaker 1: when Devine sometimes meal prep now that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get myself back in shape after the baby and just
Speaker 1: try to be healthier and live healthier, we'll cook meal
Speaker 1: prep stuff and we'll eat that, and then we'll go
Speaker 1: maybe to a restaurant or eat you out somewhere else,
Speaker 1: and we would like, damn, wasn't that fool really salty?
Speaker 1: Or like, damn, that was really sweet. So it's almost
Speaker 1: as if're palette change. Your palette changes, and it shifts.
Speaker 1: Sometimes your body requires a detox, but to kind of
Speaker 1: start over, if you can change your palette as an adult,
Speaker 1: you can curate a palette for a child. For example,
Speaker 1: our children eat sugar free ices. They don't taste any
Speaker 1: different to them because they're not even used to just
Speaker 1: eating the regular We grew up on the Italian ices
Speaker 1: with magic. I still eat them. But what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do with all this information is curate a lifestyle
Speaker 1: for our children where they can live healthier and not
Speaker 1: have to worry about those extended pre existing conditions because
Speaker 1: we didn't add to it with our traditional family things.
Speaker 1: And it's not that we're trying to take these things
Speaker 1: away from our kids, because we're still going to explain
Speaker 1: to them who they are and why we do things
Speaker 1: a certain way. But it's just making choices, you know.
Speaker 1: Make sure you guys are active all the time, make
Speaker 1: sure you eat things the right way, don't put because
Speaker 1: our kids, Yes, everything has to be done in moderation,
Speaker 1: you know. So because what's gonna happen is like you're
Speaker 1: not gonna tell me I'm not gonna eat these candy
Speaker 1: ams on on on things, okay, but you're not gonna
Speaker 1: tell me you're gonna take that you know, pork, What
Speaker 1: is it the turkey, nick or whatever out of the
Speaker 1: colleague gonna have the heavy cream in the mac and cheese.
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna have. But we're not eating that
Speaker 1: every day, so I said, I say, we're not doing
Speaker 1: it every day, but as well Thanksgiving, I'll be eating
Speaker 1: it for a couple of days after. That's really really
Speaker 1: really nicely. Um so yeah, there's ways to even just
Speaker 1: detox the body and kind of start over and kind
Speaker 1: of refresh. I think that's needed every now and again too.
Speaker 1: If you ask my grandmother, she'd be likely to give
Speaker 1: the pick them then wash out before school starts, you know,
Speaker 1: like the end of the summer. It's like you gotta
Speaker 1: reset the body. You got to get that laxative, that
Speaker 1: wash out to kind of make sure that you're getting
Speaker 1: rid of the things that your body. Yeah, so, um, well,
Speaker 1: shout out to shaniqua Um the homie on Instagram. She's
Speaker 1: high frequency tea and I did her the bidda Um
Speaker 1: detox when I first moved here, and um, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was an interesting detox because it tasted like all hell,
Speaker 1: but I felt amazingly light after that. Like you don't
Speaker 1: always taste good, That's true. That's just what it is.
Speaker 1: That's how I knew it was. Vegetables are what's the
Speaker 1: real deal when you eat during something that tastes nasty. Yes,
Speaker 1: so we should have around here to talk about some
Speaker 1: natural ways and then in turn take care of the
Speaker 1: body versus having to potentially maybe get on medication later,
Speaker 1: starting that before being proactive versus reactive. Al Right, guys, So,
Speaker 1: as you guys know, twenty three and Me has given
Speaker 1: us um some health tips of what we pre disposed
Speaker 1: to genetically. But they've also given us some fun facts
Speaker 1: like carrier status and wellness and traits that can affect
Speaker 1: us on our everyday life. And I think this would
Speaker 1: be fun to go through so we can see how
Speaker 1: accurate this is based on how we interact on the daily.
Speaker 1: When Devout calls me crazy or delusional on a random day,
Speaker 1: it may not be just crazy and delusion. It may
Speaker 1: be genetics. I wonder if you're pre disposed to dropping
Speaker 1: it because you like dropping it a lot, I like
Speaker 1: catching it, Probably you predisposed and I'm predisposed to catching them.
Speaker 1: It's the perfect marriage. Let's dive in, Shelly, all right,
Speaker 1: So when we look at some of my health predispositions.
Speaker 1: I guess that we have, according to my twenty three
Speaker 1: and me report, a slightly increased risk of age related
Speaker 1: macular D generation. So that's a m D loss of
Speaker 1: eyesight that usually begins to show up in your sixties
Speaker 1: and seventies. Smoking highly increases this risk. Oh mg, am
Speaker 1: I have to put down to hookah. I don't know
Speaker 1: hooka Mommy, damn Ain't nobody trying to lose this eyes side? Baby,
Speaker 1: I want to see you. I want to see you
Speaker 1: well into my hundreds, I think, I think, And then oh,
Speaker 1: it actually picked up that I'm a carrier status UM
Speaker 1: for not necessarily the sickle cell anemia variant, but one
Speaker 1: was detected for the beta the last mia. Lord, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give me all these big words to talk about,
Speaker 1: I thought me. You know, we always see them commercials
Speaker 1: on TV. Who got Mezzo? Like? What does anybody know? What? Me?
Speaker 1: Can anybody who's actually had that right in for a
Speaker 1: listener letter because we see it all the time, and
Speaker 1: I just get to meet somebody who's had that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: But pretty much, it's a genetic disorder characterized by anemia
Speaker 1: and fatigue UM as well as bone deformities and organ problems. Yikes.
Speaker 1: So a person must have two variants in the HBB
Speaker 1: gene in order to have this condition. So let's hope
Speaker 1: I an't got none of that. Well know the reason
Speaker 1: why that's good though, because now you know if the
Speaker 1: kids have it and they gat someone who has the
Speaker 1: same variants or similar variant or two variants, then they
Speaker 1: are more likely to have it. So it's important to know.
Speaker 1: It's definitely important to know. And then under the wellness category,
Speaker 1: my report says that I'm like likely to drink slightly
Speaker 1: less caffeine than the average based on my gematics. Have
Speaker 1: yet to see that yet day Baby air day, which
Speaker 1: is funny, Bill. When I was pregnant, I did not
Speaker 1: coffee at all, actually gave me more heightened morning sickness. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I can't go a date without
Speaker 1: coffee or two if I chose to. My thing is
Speaker 1: I love a warm beverage in the morning. So if
Speaker 1: it's not coffee, it's a cup of tea, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have something. And then, also recording to my report, my
Speaker 1: genetic muscle composition is common in power elite elite. You
Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, right, that bum, that bubble,
Speaker 1: that's that's where the power comes from. But the hamstrings,
Speaker 1: the whole glued hamstring, posterior chain area like a track
Speaker 1: athlete volleyball. If you get that from your mother, love,
Speaker 1: that was playing netball in Jamaica, running track, and then
Speaker 1: you got that the glutes. Okay, that's all genetic, baby, Yes,
Speaker 1: make sure you think my mother to day. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, And I'm more likely to be a deep sleeper.
Speaker 1: Absolutely on the rare occasion that I can't actually get
Speaker 1: into a deep sleep, I'm going to sleep rare occasion though,
Speaker 1: rare occasion, and then athlete traits. Okay, okay, okay. So
Speaker 1: for my wellness, it says that my body composition is
Speaker 1: common in elite power athletes. Makes sense because I've been
Speaker 1: elite power athlete my whole life, playing football, playing basketball.
Speaker 1: You're not together making little power leap athletes. That's why
Speaker 1: make the Jackson cairo kas at the code. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be out here, run it all over everybody. Absolutely, it
Speaker 1: says I'm less likely to be a deep sleeper. That
Speaker 1: makes sense, It does, yes, because I to be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't think my eyes ever closed. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'll be sleeping like this the whole night and time
Speaker 1: to get up, or you're thinking too much, you don't know,
Speaker 1: want to turn your brain off. I'm always thinking. Plus
Speaker 1: also being the man of the house, I never want
Speaker 1: to hear someone. I always want to be aware of
Speaker 1: someone's entering or exiting the house. And it's been that
Speaker 1: way since the apartment. Like I just want to know,
Speaker 1: so I don't feel like I sleep heavy at all.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, let's go with some traits. So do
Speaker 1: you and nine boats it looks like have at chance
Speaker 1: of being able to match a musical pitch so sing.
Speaker 1: I think the record has shown based on karaoke. We're
Speaker 1: in season nine. That's not a talent I have. I
Speaker 1: ain't even want. Wow, look at this one. This is
Speaker 1: actually so spot on. Slightly higher odds of disliking cilantro.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, guys, I hate cilantro. Cilantro can go somewhere
Speaker 1: and die, like literally, like I have no use for it,
Speaker 1: but barely Mexican food because it's cilantro. According to the report,
Speaker 1: you are not likely to have early hair lows cat
Speaker 1: cat right, Well, it's somewhat a cat because my hair
Speaker 1: lows is more stress based your counterparts. And when I'm
Speaker 1: when I'm resting and not filming, my hair is fuller.
Speaker 1: Whenever I get into that season of filming months and
Speaker 1: months at the time, my hair definitely things out. So
Speaker 1: that's true. But here this one, here I noticed his
Speaker 1: cat likely prefer salty over sweet cat. I love sugar.
Speaker 1: Less likely to have a fear of public speaking for me. Hello,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Look at your last one. But average
Speaker 1: odds of hating chewing sounds? You kiss yo. Y'all know
Speaker 1: how condem is about people who made this. I literally
Speaker 1: want to hug you. It's so true. More than an
Speaker 1: average to be afraid of heights. Yes, I'm afraid of heights. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't smell. I can't stand the smell of asparagus.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm indifferent to that. Wow, I prefer vanilla
Speaker 1: over chocolate ice cream. I do less likely to dislike
Speaker 1: chewing sounds. I could care less about chewing sounds. You
Speaker 1: want to know why I'd be focused on my food,
Speaker 1: not other people, unlike my wife here, who will stop
Speaker 1: eating her food just to see if she can hear
Speaker 1: if somebody's chewing. You're a lunatic. And now we know
Speaker 1: it's genetically You're a genetic lunatic. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: you are the way you are. So you're calling me
Speaker 1: a lunatic all these years? Are you just calling me?
Speaker 1: As you see me? You can't help you? I love that.
Speaker 1: I can't help myself, y'all. Now we know I'm crazy
Speaker 1: and he's crazier for being in this world with me.
Speaker 1: You love it here baby, period. All right, that was
Speaker 1: pretty cool discussion twenty three and me thank you all
Speaker 1: for that report. Like now I know my bad bits
Speaker 1: from Street Vodka. Y'all can't y'all can't tell me that's it.
Speaker 1: But what I am going to tell you that is
Speaker 1: that we need to break um so we can go
Speaker 1: into listener letters because we do still have that as
Speaker 1: a portion of the show on season nine of Listener Letters.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to dive in. So let's take a break
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. We are back with listener Letters.
Speaker 1: I will go ahead and read this first one. All right,
Speaker 1: So this one seems very ambiguous. A man has been
Speaker 1: with a woman, he has three kids by youngest it's eleven,
Speaker 1: and has recently moved them into a new house. Reason
Speaker 1: for moving is because he says that his kids had
Speaker 1: outgrown the house they were previously living in and his
Speaker 1: youngest daughter didn't have her own room. I've been dealing
Speaker 1: with this man for the last twenty four years, and
Speaker 1: I also have his first child, aged two. He tells
Speaker 1: me that we're going to be together and has also
Speaker 1: told me that he's going to marry me one day,
Speaker 1: but he has to make sure that they're good before
Speaker 1: he leaves so he won't have to so they won't
Speaker 1: need him or be in poverty. My question to you,
Speaker 1: does this sound like a situation I should wait for
Speaker 1: or should I hit the hills running. I'll be listening
Speaker 1: faithfully to hear your response. Okay, so this is this
Speaker 1: is a very um loaded question and there is no
Speaker 1: right or wrong answer. But I will say this, in
Speaker 1: situations like these, you have to look at two perspectives. Right.
Speaker 1: I understand her perspective as a woman. Right. It says
Speaker 1: that they've been together for twenty four years, which means
Speaker 1: even if they were together from fifteen, they're still thirty nine, right,
Speaker 1: which means that's time. Time is of the essence. They
Speaker 1: have children together, the first and the third child of
Speaker 1: both theirs, and one in the middle is not hers,
Speaker 1: so we don't know if there was a break there
Speaker 1: or not. But she says she's like, yo, he bought
Speaker 1: a house. We all live in together, but she wants
Speaker 1: to get married. She wants the title. I understand where
Speaker 1: she's coming from, because as a woman in society, when
Speaker 1: you live with a guy for a long time and
Speaker 1: you're not married, people look down on you. They don't
Speaker 1: look down on him, you know what I'm saying. They're
Speaker 1: just like, oh, she's sticking around and he's playing house
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to commit to her. So I
Speaker 1: understand where she's coming from. So the title means a
Speaker 1: lot to her. Similar to when we got married, you
Speaker 1: you would like, I'm not going to be your living girlfriend,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, Okay, I want to get married,
Speaker 1: but I'm not ready to get married yet. This is
Speaker 1: where I talk about where I understand his perspective. Right
Speaker 1: when Codein and I were getting married, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to use us as an example because a lot of
Speaker 1: women have agreed with you in the terms, and a
Speaker 1: lot of men have agreed with me. When we were
Speaker 1: getting married. Codine's focus was on the wedding. My focus
Speaker 1: was on the marriage and my line, you know, because
Speaker 1: you wanted to have the perfect wedding, that something you
Speaker 1: dreamed about. I wanted to have the perfect marriage in
Speaker 1: part because I felt like the pressure would be on me.
Speaker 1: The same way. If you're living together with me for
Speaker 1: years and we're not married, everyone looks at you. If
Speaker 1: we go into a financial hardship and we're married, everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna look at me. So as a man, it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more difficult to make that decision to say,
Speaker 1: I want to ask this this woman to be my wife,
Speaker 1: but I'm not in a place financially where I want
Speaker 1: to be so that I can take care of anything,
Speaker 1: if everything, if something happens. I know what that feels
Speaker 1: like as a man, but I also have empathy enough
Speaker 1: to understand what a woman feels like when she feels
Speaker 1: like she's being dragged along. The way these two can
Speaker 1: come to amicable decision is by constantly having communication. She
Speaker 1: probably doesn't feel comfortable being honest with him in real time,
Speaker 1: and he probably doesn't feel comfortable being honest with her
Speaker 1: in real time. It's almost like I don't know exactly
Speaker 1: how to say what it is I want to say,
Speaker 1: but if they learn how to communicate and express what
Speaker 1: they need in order to move forward, they'll be able
Speaker 1: to do it collectively. And I think that's what the
Speaker 1: problem is because even her asking the questions, do I wait,
Speaker 1: but do I run for the hills, It's like, what
Speaker 1: are you waiting for? Be open and say what you need.
Speaker 1: You were open and said what you needed, and at
Speaker 1: the time I felt like it was pressure. But I
Speaker 1: was open and said how I felt. But it's pressure,
Speaker 1: and I told you what I needed. Where I failed
Speaker 1: in that moment was my dad always told me, when
Speaker 1: it comes to finances, you take the stress off of
Speaker 1: your wife. That's your responsibility. I know it may seem
Speaker 1: old school, but my father said, when you ask a
Speaker 1: woman to be your wife, it is your fiduciary responsibility
Speaker 1: to take care of her and the children that you
Speaker 1: had her you had asked her to have for you.
Speaker 1: So for me, I felt a different level of responsibility
Speaker 1: being a man, because I felt like it's my responsibility
Speaker 1: to take care of all of y'all, whereas you probably
Speaker 1: felt like we can do this together. We never had
Speaker 1: that conversation of what my mindset was and getting married.
Speaker 1: All I said was I wasn't ready in a moment.
Speaker 1: And when you hear I'm not ready, you think, what,
Speaker 1: You're not ready to get married, And I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm not ready to get married. I
Speaker 1: just don't think I'm financially prepared to go through the
Speaker 1: entire marriage right now. And you know, the expect the
Speaker 1: expectation for me was never for you to take care
Speaker 1: of me, which was I think ultimately was where we
Speaker 1: kind of like different on opinions you according to like
Speaker 1: your dad, which shout out to Scoop again for being
Speaker 1: like a stand up dude to say, hey, bro, like
Speaker 1: you need to be able to take care of your family.
Speaker 1: Where I'm just like, Bro, you and I together can
Speaker 1: do anything. Like I was excited just about the vigor
Speaker 1: you had for life, and I had the same vigor,
Speaker 1: so it's like we can do this together. Like I'm
Speaker 1: not depending on you, but I know as a man,
Speaker 1: you have your own particular set of you know, I
Speaker 1: guess your checklist of things where we're checking off certain
Speaker 1: things like I want to be married by this time
Speaker 1: or have children by this time. You have your checklist
Speaker 1: of I want to be able to do this. I
Speaker 1: want to be able to pay off my house and
Speaker 1: get my wife this, I completely understand it. And I
Speaker 1: also understand that when things go wrong, people generally, when
Speaker 1: you're looking at a married couple, tend to blame the
Speaker 1: husband if they're having issues. You know, I know a
Speaker 1: particular situation where that's exactly what happened. Wife was just
Speaker 1: at fault for not working and taking care of her,
Speaker 1: and neither one of them work and he wasn't, so
Speaker 1: neither of them were working. And it's just like, y'all,
Speaker 1: you were in the situation, and it's not just him
Speaker 1: and it's not just her. Ever, everyone blame him and
Speaker 1: then and the thing is, they will talk about double
Speaker 1: standards in the world and it's not fair. We get
Speaker 1: it's not fair, right, but they are what they are, right.
Speaker 1: The double standard. A man can live with a wife,
Speaker 1: will live with a woman for years and nobody will
Speaker 1: say anything to him, but they'll judge her. They can
Speaker 1: go through financial hardships, they won't say anything about her,
Speaker 1: but they'll judge him. That's the double standards. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people get caught up and trying
Speaker 1: not to be a part of those narratives that for
Speaker 1: women it's like, I need to get married, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a stay at home and for
Speaker 1: a man, He's like, I don't want to seem like
Speaker 1: a dead beat husband. I gotta make sure my finances
Speaker 1: are straight. If those two people just speak and be
Speaker 1: honest about the plan and what they want to do,
Speaker 1: they'll be fine, period. So I wouldn't say run for
Speaker 1: the hills. I would say begin that dialogue about what
Speaker 1: your life is looking like and what you want to do,
Speaker 1: because you never know, and I don't for some people
Speaker 1: that say they've been together twenty four years, that's a
Speaker 1: long time. Listen, there's no age that you can look
Speaker 1: at someone and count their pockets and say they're prepared
Speaker 1: for life. Because I know people older than me who
Speaker 1: still need help financially and still need hope emotionally, and
Speaker 1: just still need help. So it's difficult for you to
Speaker 1: look at someone's are the forty years or he should
Speaker 1: have had his life together. There's plenty of people our
Speaker 1: age who don't have their life together, many people older
Speaker 1: than us who don't. So we have to also stop
Speaker 1: doing that to people and tell them they should have
Speaker 1: their life together by their mid twenties. Or they've a failure.
Speaker 1: You know, things take time for different people. Absolutely, so
Speaker 1: good Luxus, thank you for being a faithful listener, and
Speaker 1: I hope you got your answer all right. Number two,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on supporting your partner as they
Speaker 1: build a business that but you aren't married? Will This
Speaker 1: is actually a perfect second question. By support, I mean
Speaker 1: doing the admin side or groundwork for free. Should this
Speaker 1: be reserved for married couples since there is more security
Speaker 1: in marriage. Girls ain't shing period first and four mostsum
Speaker 1: or as just a girl or guy. I don't know
Speaker 1: who wrote it, as it was a man or a woman. Um,
Speaker 1: there ain't no security and nothing. So just feeling like, oh,
Speaker 1: because I'm married now their security absolutely not because things
Speaker 1: fall apart, okay, Um, I guess they're more at stake
Speaker 1: in terms of like how things will be divided if
Speaker 1: you're married and then you end up divorcing, and like
Speaker 1: what does that business look like and what does the
Speaker 1: revenue look like? How it's going to be split? That's different.
Speaker 1: But I supported Devout for free when he had just
Speaker 1: a dream. Absolutely, and I worked as your I guess
Speaker 1: your administrative assistant when you were starting for example, your
Speaker 1: prototype business with the kids and training, um, I would
Speaker 1: work in the right We were engaged at the time,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean at that time it was just
Speaker 1: an idea for Devout, like, oh, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to be able to do this, and I'm like, all right, cool.
Speaker 1: I was always down for the cause, even from day one.
Speaker 1: When Devout told me about all his hopes and dreams,
Speaker 1: I'm like, awesome, how are we gonna make this happen?
Speaker 1: But that's but I think that's the the question though.
Speaker 1: It's like, and I'm asking you personally because I don't
Speaker 1: want to know to like, because I know what my
Speaker 1: answer is to this question. For you, I don't hear you.
Speaker 1: What was it about me that you said I feel
Speaker 1: safe helping this person even without any commitment. When I
Speaker 1: think about you helping me read my dog. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it went both ways because I
Speaker 1: remember when you were an audio video class and you
Speaker 1: needed someone to hold the camera and you know, hold
Speaker 1: the white paper to be your your white balance. You
Speaker 1: were actor in a music video I had to do
Speaker 1: in class. You remember, listen, you're acting day started. You're
Speaker 1: the first person to cast me in my first make
Speaker 1: sure you're give me my credits when you get your ASCAR. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they always ask this is why. So now I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask the question. This answer the question. This is
Speaker 1: why you don't help people when you're not married, because
Speaker 1: they come back later on them. But we've always been
Speaker 1: supportive of each other. And I know why I was
Speaker 1: supportive you, But why um de value from day one
Speaker 1: have exhibited such a charisma and such unyielding work ethic
Speaker 1: for anything that you want. That seeing that early on
Speaker 1: was enough for me to be brought into your dreams
Speaker 1: as well. You always worked hard. You had all these
Speaker 1: ideas in your mind, and you may not be the
Speaker 1: the best that like administrative follow up or just things
Speaker 1: like that, because you're you're you're creative to the max.
Speaker 1: So but you do know how to delegate responsibility and
Speaker 1: you do know how to empower people around you to
Speaker 1: be at their best potential in whatever facet they're working at.
Speaker 1: Because if there's a collective goal, a collective dream, a
Speaker 1: collective business, you're really great about mapping that out. And
Speaker 1: I saw that early on, Um, and it was starting
Speaker 1: from even just your NFL days. You know, you were
Speaker 1: trying to just you know start that nest day, and
Speaker 1: you say, if I get to the NFL, this would
Speaker 1: be a great way for me to have that nestay
Speaker 1: to start my life for my family, so then I
Speaker 1: can in turn not be a starving actor. You put
Speaker 1: the wheels in motion, and that was enough for me
Speaker 1: to be brought into your dream because I said, this
Speaker 1: man is motivated, so we can do this together. So
Speaker 1: what you're saying was it wasn't the talking, it was
Speaker 1: you watching me work. So we're on the same page.
Speaker 1: Because when now this is this is actually a great
Speaker 1: topic because I just had a conversation with a bunch
Speaker 1: of dudes, my young boys who are graduating college. Now
Speaker 1: they it's like, yo, course devout, Like how much time
Speaker 1: should I put into a chick that I'm not that's
Speaker 1: not going to be my wife or whatever? Because the
Speaker 1: city girls out here trying to get paid and I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to get got. And now the city boys
Speaker 1: is like these bitches, I'm going out for me, and
Speaker 1: it is, yes, the thing, that's the full thing. Everybody's
Speaker 1: out for self, or at least on social media days.
Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, if you're not on TikTok, you oh,
Speaker 1: and I'm not on TikTok. I own that I hate
Speaker 1: you hurt and looking at TikTok. But I've started to
Speaker 1: realize even listening to people's comments or commentary on social media,
Speaker 1: their example of why, for example, niggas ain't ship or
Speaker 1: bitches ain't ship always goes back to their choices. I
Speaker 1: was dealing with this nigga and and I was dealing
Speaker 1: with this bit and she la. So maybe you should
Speaker 1: check your choices rather than rather than passing a wide
Speaker 1: net over all of the people in the world, you
Speaker 1: should be more have more discernment with who you choose
Speaker 1: to give your time to. So for example, if you
Speaker 1: notice that a dude or a girl it's always talking
Speaker 1: about what they're gonna do and not do it, and
Speaker 1: you feel like you're going to be the person to
Speaker 1: push them, and you realize that you're doing all the work.
Speaker 1: You should have noticed that before they started working and
Speaker 1: they was just talking. But I see people do this
Speaker 1: all the time. They hear someone talk about their dreams
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'll help them do their dreams. And
Speaker 1: even sometimes you help that person do their dream, they
Speaker 1: take the dream and they move on. It's like they
Speaker 1: never asked you to help them with the dream you
Speaker 1: chose to step in and do it. You gotta start
Speaker 1: looking at people and letting them tell you who they
Speaker 1: are and believing them. The first time. Yeah, with with you,
Speaker 1: I was like, she actually working, She actually doing all
Speaker 1: the stuff. Are A A D R D one R
Speaker 1: A A D and R D of the year every
Speaker 1: single year. When you started at MAC you you went
Speaker 1: from a third key, I mean you were from part
Speaker 1: time to a third key to a manager. All of
Speaker 1: this was quick. So I was like that she works hard.
Speaker 1: So I felt like if I could help her, I
Speaker 1: could give her autonomy to move in the world that's
Speaker 1: always marginalize as women. You know what I'm saying, we
Speaker 1: still exist in the patriarchy. So for me, because we
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a man or a woman, I
Speaker 1: look at I look at my girl at the time
Speaker 1: because you weren't my wife, my girl, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, I want her to be able to feel
Speaker 1: comfortable making moves and know when somebody got her. So
Speaker 1: for me, that's what it was. It wasn't it wasn't even.
Speaker 1: It was just about being present so that you felt
Speaker 1: comfortable that if you fell, I was there. Or if
Speaker 1: you need somebody to step in and be a bull
Speaker 1: going into these things, you had somebody with you. So
Speaker 1: for me, it wasn't so much about what I could gain,
Speaker 1: but it was about seeing you actually put in the
Speaker 1: working and me wanting to be a part of seeing
Speaker 1: you do your dream. So I think that's really what
Speaker 1: it should be. And I don't think it should just
Speaker 1: be reserved for couples once they get married, because how
Speaker 1: do you know you're building a foundation with someone before
Speaker 1: marriage unless you start working before them before then exactly.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a really good point. I
Speaker 1: hope that helped you out, y'all. Really good listener letters
Speaker 1: for today, A nice way to round out this twenty
Speaker 1: three and Me Report episode. Um, let's give him a
Speaker 1: moment of truth. But before we do that, make sure
Speaker 1: if you are trying to be considered as a listener letter,
Speaker 1: email us at dead as Advice at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 1: A D V I C E at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: All right, and moment of truth time. I guess my
Speaker 1: moment of truth is actually what my initial karaoke song was.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go do going into this until I
Speaker 1: found out I was a bad bit from Sri Lankan
Speaker 1: that changed it. Um. But thinking about Diana Ross and
Speaker 1: mahogany Um, do you know we're going to do you
Speaker 1: know the things that life are showing you? Do you know?
Speaker 1: Do you know? And if you don't know, now you
Speaker 1: know perfect segue um. But there are resources, there are
Speaker 1: ways out there for you to find out who you
Speaker 1: really are, being able to date it back to location um,
Speaker 1: dating back to health um. Knowing more and having the
Speaker 1: tools and the opportunity to be able to advance your
Speaker 1: knowledge on history, your own history, I mean, even if
Speaker 1: you're not interested in all the other histories that are
Speaker 1: happening at least no yours at least nor yours and
Speaker 1: and and tap into resources that will allow you to
Speaker 1: do so so you can make the changes you need
Speaker 1: to make to make this life the best and the
Speaker 1: healthiest and the longest you can facts. My moment of
Speaker 1: truth is extremely simple. Shout out to twenty three and
Speaker 1: me for these beautiful reports. It helped me dive even
Speaker 1: deeper into the role my ancestors played in what is America?
Speaker 1: Number one and number two, the role they played in
Speaker 1: who I am today both physically knowing why I look
Speaker 1: the way I look, mentally why um, I have the
Speaker 1: type of fortitude I have, but also emotionally why I
Speaker 1: feel so strongly about the things I feel about that
Speaker 1: going on in the world, but also helping me figure
Speaker 1: out how I'm going to create a plan to have
Speaker 1: my children exists in a space that's more um beneficial
Speaker 1: for them health wise, physically, mentally, and emotionally by understanding
Speaker 1: what's nature versus nurture and using what I can nurture
Speaker 1: to make the nature less prominent. Oh that was a word.
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Speaker 1: just saying okay that that's holding this way together today, baby,
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