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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this iconograph episode of

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Speaker 1: Didi Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Ah.

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Speaker 1: Instead of looking at oh you just found out about this,

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Speaker 1: Instead of looking at the zeitgeist through current events once

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Speaker 1: a week, we're looking at the zeitgeist through the lens

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Speaker 1: of the powerful pop cultural hore cruxes that are our icons.

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Speaker 1: We've done Einstein, We've done Arkle, We've done Miss Piggy

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Speaker 1: with Jamie Loftus, Arnold Schwartzenegger with John Gabris. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: use these characters and celebrities to create meaning, to build identity,

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Speaker 1: to insert some pagan black magic into our Jesus the

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Speaker 1: holiday celebrations, to learn that obesity can actually make you immortal,

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Speaker 1: and to give old men something to do around the

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Speaker 1: holidays when they'd otherwise be watching Fox News.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: In episode five, we're talking Sanny Clause, maybe the most

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Speaker 1: recognizable figure on the planet. In this context, I am

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Speaker 1: now wondering, is is this our most famous figure?

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Speaker 2: Visual?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very recognizable, and he's got a recognizable voice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Today's dossier was prepared by Dave Ruse. Stick around till

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Speaker 1: the end for my final thoughts and my no no notebook.

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Speaker 1: Dun't this time. My final thoughts are a mind fuck

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Speaker 1: thought experiment about the time space continuum from Santa's point

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Speaker 1: of view. That's a stick around for that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host

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Speaker 1: mister Miles Gray.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's how people laugh. Really, I mean, whoever came?

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Speaker 2: What a time that was?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you it? Fro The fuck is

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Speaker 1: wrong with that guy?

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Speaker 2: What Fred just laid down in the both dude? Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, run that back? Yeah one more time? Oh

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Speaker 2: got it? Oh got it?

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Speaker 1: And in our third seat, a brilliant comedian writer actor

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Speaker 1: coiner of the phrase plumpers to describe his jack thighs

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Speaker 1: auto Crek keeps trying to change it to plumbers because

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Speaker 1: it knows that the word that he created should not exist.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious. The riding of recumbent

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Speaker 1: bicycle in short shorts.

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Speaker 3: It's Blake Wexlean. This is Blake Wexler aka jiggle legs.

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Speaker 3: Jiggle legs. My plumpers cause dismay. Little shorts is where

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Speaker 3: they thrive. A metric ton is what they weigh. Oh behay,

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Speaker 3: Oh we're not doing Bostin powers that's next week. Blake

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Speaker 3: Ah damn it, Okay, the runner up for the most recognizable,

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Speaker 3: the second.

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Speaker 1: Second most famous per on the and Jesus. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do want to just open up with that question.

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Speaker 1: Is Santa Claus the most famous figure on the planet?

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Speaker 2: Do you have an answer to this question?

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Speaker 1: Do I think it is? I think it's Santa. I

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Speaker 1: mean we Jesus we've talked about before, or like Jesus,

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Speaker 1: very recognizable, but like you, he doesn't have a recognizable laugh,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like his voice could be anything. It's just

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Speaker 1: really I think beard is helpful for iconism, for icon

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Speaker 1: status because you can just throw one on and everyone's like,

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Speaker 1: it's Jesus or it's Sanna. I think the only other

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Speaker 1: pop culture icon that challenges Santa is Mickey Mouse in

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Speaker 1: terms of recognizability. But unlike Mickey, Santa's open source. You

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Speaker 1: won't get sued for dressing up his hammer, have to

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Speaker 1: like tiny fuppets, a version called like Marky Morse or

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Speaker 1: some shit. And then, also, unlike Mickey, he almost never

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Speaker 1: looks the same. He's it's it is truly iconography. Like

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Speaker 1: he he's like AI art before AI art, like his

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Speaker 1: face changes in every depiction that you see of him.

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Speaker 1: But his signifiers are so iconic that like it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: You know what his facial structure looks like.

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Speaker 2: He can be.

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Speaker 1: You know the old guy from Jurassic Park who played

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Speaker 1: Santa and Miracle on thirty fourth Street, Miracle.

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Speaker 2: On four four screw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he can be the fucking Grinch in a clearly

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Speaker 1: in a bad Santa costumes man.

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Speaker 2: Not now, no, no, no, not on this day.

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Speaker 1: He could be your school's assistant principle. I actually talked

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Speaker 1: to a Sanna. We took our kids to see Sanna,

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Speaker 1: and he's the assistant principal at a local elementary school

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Speaker 1: and he's never once been clocked because he's wearing and

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Speaker 1: he not not like a fake white beard, Like he

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Speaker 1: was like you, so, do you shave that when you're

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Speaker 1: not doing Santa. He's like, no, I have it the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait. Also talking to I was talking to him

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Speaker 2: off the clock, were like hanging out in the parking

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Speaker 2: lot vapig or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sound was rolling dice in the back back behind

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Speaker 2: Some bitch, oh Santa.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this guy is a normal, big white beard

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Speaker 1: person you'd be like, all right, Santa Claus, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, that's amazing. He's hiding in plain sight.

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Speaker 1: Like the mystique is that powerful, you know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when you when you know when you're

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Speaker 4: going to visit Santa, like as a kid, your brain

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Speaker 4: shuts off completely. And I've only done it twice and

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Speaker 4: they were both disasters as a kid, so it's but

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Speaker 1: You still visited Santa twice as a kid and they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like one as yeah, yeah, yeah, I fucking stabbed

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Speaker 2: I set the second one on fire.

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Speaker 4: No, Like the first time was just so petrified, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: this fucking guy. I was like ready, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was, it was built in my head,

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Speaker 2: Was sort of like my energy sided like on a dime.

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Speaker 4: And then the second time, I think it was like

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Speaker 4: I just did it because I thought everyone else was

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Speaker 2: I think was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Character Wise, I feel like he's somewhat consistent Santa, but

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Speaker 1: not always like I was looking back through, you know. Stereotypically,

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Speaker 1: he's jolly basically like an old jolly, drunk guy. But

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Speaker 1: then in the Santa Claus, which I worked for the

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Speaker 1: first time for this You're welcome. Wow, he's like the

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Speaker 1: most divorced man of all time.

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Speaker 2: Well Tim Allen, Yeah, but also just yeah, okay, Art.

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Speaker 1: Says, the most divorce man of all time. And then

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Speaker 1: the second he starts growing the beard, he starts caring

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Speaker 1: He like gets fat and immediately like can't do his

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Speaker 1: job without being like the.

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Speaker 2: Kids deserve better.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch the stop motion Rudolph growing Up?

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Speaker 2: I've seen it before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is such an asshole in that he's so mean.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of a mean old man, right, Yeah, he's.

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Speaker 1: Like really mean like that. There's this one part where

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Speaker 1: the elves are like so worried about performing this song

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Speaker 1: that they wrote for Santa, and Santa is just like

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Speaker 1: And then they sing it for him and like the

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Speaker 1: lead Elf is like conducting him, like looking over his

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Speaker 2: Is he smiling?

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Speaker 1: And then at the end he's like did you like it?

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Speaker 1: And he's like it needs work. I have to go, Wow,

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Speaker 1: whose dad was that? I know that part?

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Speaker 2: Jesus.

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Speaker 1: He also like Rudolph's like noses treated like a birth

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Speaker 1: like tells his dad that he's like, you better hide

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Speaker 1: Like he puts a nose covering on Rudolph and everyone

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Speaker 1: went it like falls off and everyone's like, oh, get

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Speaker 1: it up. But like, I think for letting him live,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the implication. But yeah, I think Elf

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Speaker 1: kind of has that. Like there are different genres of San.

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Speaker 1: I'd say Elf is in the harried, stressed out by

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Speaker 1: the job genre of Santa's right right, right, yeah, trying

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Speaker 1: to play it really, could you imagine if you were

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Speaker 1: San i'd be fucking stressed.

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Speaker 2: There's an idea.

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Speaker 1: Do you know the Trenton sign like that you see

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Speaker 1: off of like off my SAP thing.

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Speaker 2: It's my favorite not just signed thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Amtrak. When you're riding the Amtrak, you go through

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Speaker 1: the city of Trenton, New Jersey, and there's a big

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Speaker 1: sign that says Trenton makes the world takes. And that's

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Speaker 1: the energy that I get from that genre of Santa

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Speaker 1: just say yeah, uh, you's gotta bring toys to everyone,

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Speaker 1: nobody cares about Santa, which I feel like that's a

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Speaker 1: very evolved American version of Santa, where it's just like

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Speaker 4: Right, and also probably like as stand like I think

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Speaker 4: people are projecting like the stress of providing parents onto

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Speaker 1: Hating your kids onto that Santa, like this guy's too nice.

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Speaker 1: But I did want to ask up top, like who

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Speaker 1: is the most iconic Santa to you? I asked my

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Speaker 1: kid to like close his eyes and like picture Santas

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Speaker 1: like a red red clothes, big jelly beard white or

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Speaker 1: big jelly belly white beard. And I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: but where did you, like, where is that image from?

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Speaker 1: He's like white Beard, big jelly belly, like he couldn't

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Speaker 2: know it's weird, like this one podcasting. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't know what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking.

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Speaker 3: I know. Yeah, it is hard because there's so many.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's not Tim Allen, and it could be there's

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Speaker 3: like fifty Coca Cola ones, you know, so it's hard

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Speaker 3: to pick one of those.

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Speaker 2: It's probably something. It's probably not a person.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's probably some like print printed image of

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Speaker 4: Santa that probably sticks out in my mind the most.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think that's right. Like,

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Speaker 1: but it just like nobody has been played by more

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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't really force you to stretch your chops

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Speaker 1: too much because he's just like happy. And then the

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Speaker 1: suit does as we as I saw with that, like

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Speaker 1: it says a principle like that does most of the work.

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Speaker 1: You don't, you don't have to be doing shit.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I think there are.

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Speaker 4: I definitely remember Santa's that we like took me out

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Speaker 4: this is fucking bullshit. This is stupid, and you stink,

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Speaker 4: like your boots are like little spats you're wearing over

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Speaker 4: your sneakers. They're not even real fucking boots. Your belt

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Speaker 1: I think that Tim Allen movie is actually like a

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Speaker 3: and I want to set that record straight. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: Was like gaunt. Yeah, you know, like.

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Speaker 1: Everybody there with him was like, what's wrong with Santa?

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Speaker 2: It was. It was like, now I have to explain

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Speaker 1: It's just ever literally had boone hanging out of his

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Speaker 3: Let him out butt them in veteran stadium. But I

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Speaker 3: He'd fucking command the respect for sure standing ovation.

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Speaker 3: That Bunny was actually a guy in a bunny costume. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's why we were pissed. We were promised Bunny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Click, put the money into the suit, asshole. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, I think the most iconic Santa the one that, like,

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Speaker 1: The Coca Cola invented Santa Claus. We just had a

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Speaker 1: we'll get into it. Santa has been around for centuries

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Speaker 1: They started using Santa for Christmas advertising campaigns in the

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Speaker 1: this guy Hayden Sunny Sunblom aka Adolph Hitler.

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Speaker 5: No, just this guy, just an artist who block worked

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Speaker 1: He also created the Quaker Oats Guy. So this is again.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Bonnie Erickson in our Miss Piggy episode Blake.

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Speaker 2: God. That's awesome, the two greatest things I've ever been.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, so cool, Bonnie Erickson, you said, yeah, write

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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of all you guys, don't know why

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Speaker 1: all right. I was gonna test with this Quaker Oats

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Speaker 1: Five ten interesting?

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Speaker 1: My seven year old thought he was six' three he

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Speaker 1: Asking but in some of these, drawings like the kid

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Speaker 1: A Jake gillenhall situation where like he's very famous but

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Speaker 1: LEATHER i almost didn't vote for. HIM a long look

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Speaker 3: playboy in nineteen seventy two commissioned a Special christmas cover

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Speaker 3: that was basically a naked woman in A santa costume

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Speaker 1: There, yeah they even wrote, it And coke font The

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Speaker 1: Perfectly nineteen. Seventies, wow and that we drew this, Year

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Speaker 2: forgot her dress was. Open they. Didn't she had no

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Speaker 2: her great for. Us. Wow that artist must have really

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Speaker 1: Mind so the guy who gave us Modern sanna a

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Speaker 1: sanna is a common nation of Medieval catholic miracle, stories

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Speaker 1: Pegging european folklore and some good old Fashioned american myth

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Speaker 1: making that had nothing to do With coca. Cola so

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Speaker 1: let's get into. It it goes Back Santa claus was

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Speaker 1: a fourth Century greek bishop from a city Called, myra

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Speaker 1: him a lot of. Money Original nepo baby sold all

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Speaker 1: around three point forty, three was buried In, myra and

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Speaker 1: then his grave became a popular pilgrimage site because his

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Speaker 1: cryp issued a miraculous liquid called manna that was believed

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Speaker 1: italian sailors Stole Saint nicholas's bones From myra and relocated

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Speaker 1: them to a new crypt where the relics kept producing healing.

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Speaker 1: GO i just love how boring life was back. Then

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Speaker 1: all we're organizing a raid to dig up the magic

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Speaker 1: Is there any like modern day take on. That they're, like,

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Speaker 1: On that grave over. There it is a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a hot pot, there, like not that much is

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Speaker 1: known about. Him he's similar To, jesus and that like

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Speaker 1: There but then there are like a bunch of miracle

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Speaker 1: beginnings of The santa. Myth there's one where rich guy

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Speaker 4: Them but the Fuck and Then Saint nick is just

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Speaker 2: Magically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah just how people beat each other in, JAIL i

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Speaker 1: we see The coca colaization Of Santa is in the

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00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: edit because like some of the early legends are pretty fucked.

436
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: Up there's one From france that is apparently still very

437
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: popular that they like still read to young, children scarring

438
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: them for. Life in the, story three young kids wander

439
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: off to play lose track of. Time they're hungry and

440
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: tired and far from. Home they spot a light in

441
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: a butcher shop and ask the man for food and.

442
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: Shelter the, BUTCHER i feel like the butchers are never

443
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: good guys in these old, stories invites them in and

444
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: chops the kids into pieces and seals them. Up in

445
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: a large pickle barrel seven years, Past Saint nicholas shows

446
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: up and is, like give me the, kids and he's,

447
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: like what are you talking, About Saint? Nick and he

448
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: gets them to rise from the pickle barrels and then

449
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: that that's like a Foundational christmas story and. Story he

450
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: raised them from the, dead raises them from the. Dead

451
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: they were just jack they were just chopped the fuck.

452
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: Up so that's What i'm, saying, Man but you don't

453
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: know what pickled. Mincemeat and and Then Saint nick just

454
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: pulls up and he's, like.

455
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: Rise little goblin. Motherfuckers, yeah that's. Demonic that's. Demonic i'm.

456
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: Sorry an earlier version of the story the kids were

457
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: traveling university students that he drugged and, killed which, actually,

458
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: yeah that one sounds like it's like more based in,

459
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: fact you, know from the. Seventies, YEAH i, know, Right,

460
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: Okay so thank god for studio, notes otherwise we'd be you,

461
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: know hampering traveling university. Students but, YEAH i feel like

462
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: this is one of those things that like when it

463
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: gets taken To, america they're, like that's a little dark.

464
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: Man oh, no let's get that out of.

465
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: Here and also we don't like stories where there's like

466
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: and that's why you got to be a good, Person like,

467
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 4: right it's like what The american ethos is, like and

468
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: that's why you had.

469
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: To steal it from that weaker. Person and they're punks

470
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: and it's funny like.

471
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 4: That like even for something Like, christmas it's there's never

472
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: like you gotta be, careful you, know at the end

473
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: of the, day you never know what's going to.

474
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: Happen it's like that fucker didn't bring me WHAT i. Wanted,

475
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: yeah you must consume that.

476
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: Is the backstory of one of the people who doesn't

477
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: believe In santa and The santa clauses that he, Does

478
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: like the kids don't get the gift they. Wanted See

479
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: santa's NOT i was, like, hey what fuck up?

480
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: It Actually jesus went down for that. One that's WHEN

481
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 4: i was, like this is a. Scam because at My

482
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: christian school they said to pray for some shit that

483
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 4: you wanted and that didn't. HAPPEN i, said this is a.

484
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: Scam Then santa was up next AND i, said let's

485
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: see what you, got.

486
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: Asshole, Nothing so fuck them both to ri ended up

487
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: by nineteen ninety, One.

488
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: WELL i thought your problem was that When santa didn't

489
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: give you your, gift his, Boss jesus didn't step. In.

490
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Right, Hey i'm not going to in the middle.

491
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: Manager, yeah, Yeah i'm going to go above his. Head

492
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: jesus fixed. It let me tell you, Something Jesus.

493
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: Christ so In, france where this story again huge fucking

494
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: explains a lot About, france the Evil butcher transformed over

495
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: time to the dark figure of uh something pera, flotard

496
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: which translates to Father whipper Or Father flag and there

497
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: in Many european, Countries Saint nick is a company by

498
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: a helper who punishes the naughty children like there's we'll

499
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: get Into crampis a little bit. Later some of the

500
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Early american celebrations in like More germanic, communities had some

501
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: like fucking terrifying.

502
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 3: Pictures are you sure we all have more Own father

503
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: Flog it's the sickest.

504
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: Name i've ever. Holiday Snm, god the leather daddy you

505
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: know out there.

506
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: Now BUT i do feel like the dark side of

507
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: The santa, Me LIKE i have kids who are right

508
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: in the wheelhouse of The santa thing right, now And

509
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: i've always been like all, right like the dark side

510
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: seems excessive to, me like we we don't need, that

511
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: but like we do this tradition where like an el

512
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: one Of santa's elves like visits one of our closets

513
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: Between thanksgiving And christmas and like leaves one gift for

514
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: each of them just to like it's like an appetite For.

515
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: Christmas nikabad is the is the elf shout out akabad

516
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: like a long conversation with, them and uh two.

517
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: And a half hours in.

518
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: And then a lot of grievances. Aired but immediately after

519
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: my seven year old got his, presence he was like

520
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: and so like he can't take this, anymore, Right like

521
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: If i'm, bad he can't take this, Anymore like this

522
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: is mine, now? Right it is he coming back to

523
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: rob the. House and he's also like been coming home from,

524
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: school like all the kids in his second grade class

525
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: are obsessed With. Crampis like he's coming home with like

526
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: all these questions about like where The alps are and

527
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: like how Does crampis Attack france from The? Alps like

528
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: are The alps in In? France or like how does

529
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: he get?

530
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: There how does he get past The magino? Line?

531
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: Exactly that's exact actly what he, Asked but HE i

532
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: think he believes In crampis more Than Santa.

533
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: Claus maybe that's, wait and so what is? That what is?

534
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: So what does that even? Mean? Cramps?

535
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: YEAH i think so he's, LIKE i, mean my parents

536
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't make Up. Crampis you, know they'd probably tell me

537
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't, real So.

538
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: I'd put it into. You so what are you gonna let?

539
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: Him you're gonna let him be terrorized By grampus or?

540
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: What, No i've told Him crampis isn't, Real BUT i

541
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: think he doesn't believe me say. That BUT i do

542
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: feel like this is probably where we get The grinch.

543
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: FROM i feel like Of American christmas, icons The grinch

544
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: is the. Most he's the biggest, riser to use a

545
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: term from, sports, like he's he's really coming. In, yeah

546
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: really got spring, ability great stretch, ability great.

547
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 3: Measurables he's, Tall he's Like inch is definitely taller Than

548
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: santa like significantly, Right.

549
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah you thinks?

550
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: So.

551
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: YEAH i think of him as like a tall parasite

552
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: with legs like tell, me, yeah, yeah.

553
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he's Got he's gonna die of a heart,

554
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: attacks and not just because his heart is three sizes too.

555
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Small he's just got that, build big, gut skinny. Legs,

556
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: yeah BUT i feel like that's because we need a

557
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: Dark santa like helper or, something and that's where that's

558
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: where The grinch like comes. In we need a bad.

559
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Guy he needs some teeth for whatever. Reason when The

560
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: grinch should come, on it like ruined it Because i'm,

561
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: like this is not fucking this is Not. Christmas this

562
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: is ruining. It AND i DON'T i don't want any

563
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: part of. IT i want to have a nice ending

564
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: to the. Year and now my fucking loves the Fucking,

565
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: grinch The Benedict cumberbatch one, whatever the animated Lumber. Grinch, yeah,

566
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: ye The illumination. One, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly exactly that.

567
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: One he that when he The Jim carrey, one he

568
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: saw like for a second AND i was like What he's,

569
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: like who are these?

570
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: Peoples thank? You against? Another Any christmas? Thing the key

571
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: party in. There but, YEAH i also like the ultimate

572
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: dark act that a holiday figure can, do which is,

573
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: like you, know property theft is like a pork, pate,

574
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: yeah por.

575
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: Pirate.

576
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah the sneaker collabse Around christmas about or the themes

577
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 3: around The grinch are often really cool, looking you, know

578
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: like where they release like a New kobe that that's

579
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: Like neon green with like. Retin it's, like this is so,

580
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: sick and then if you buy, it it's like where

581
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: WOULD i ever wear?

582
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: This like this is so? Ugly you actually have?

583
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 4: It it only works in the context of me Being

584
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: Kobe bryant playing On Christmas day on.

585
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: In a professional basketball. Game, otherwise what the fuck? Is

586
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: you never?

587
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Know you never?

588
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: Know you never never? Know you never, Know, DAD i

589
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: might Become Kobe bryant On Christmas? Day? Fine fine mobile.

590
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: Them are there Any santa based, Shoes like has anybody

591
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: ever rocked with like bright red pat and leather shoes

592
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: with like the fur around the. PIPING i don't know about.

593
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: It oh that would BE i feel like that would

594
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: definitely be something you've seen like THE, Nfl, YEAH nba

595
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: or Like Meta.

596
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: World peace would be the only GUY i can, picture you,

597
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: know going like putting a little bell on his, toes

598
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: like running around because do you remember he had those

599
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: sneakers called The Panda's friend where it was he they

600
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: were an actual stuffed animal he basically put on his.

601
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Shoes jack you.

602
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: Played in THE nba And china because didn't he change

603
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: his name to Like panda something to.

604
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: Think he may have changed his name to The panta's.

605
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 3: Friend it was there was like a whole. THING i remember,

606
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: it like that's. SERIOUS i think that. Happened who cares

607
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: about my name?

608
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 4: Anymore, yeah his name was his name Was panda's Friend.

609
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: Treasure what that's a guy who turned his narrative. Around

610
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: that guy was a grinch In detroit when he entered

611
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: the stands and he became totally turned it.

612
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Around now He's panda his.

613
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: Friend, yeah closest we've seen a whimsical, sneaker ALTHOUGH i

614
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: feel like these younger players now are more into like

615
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 4: super out there.

616
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Sneak kyrie did like a didn't he do a cereal

617
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: based one they've all?

618
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: Had yeah was a big. One, yeah.

619
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: Yep santa doesn't Really LIKE i feel like he's two,

620
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: Mainstream like wouldn't be cool to have A santa? Sneaker you?

621
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 2: Want you want The?

622
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 4: Grinch, No and there's no edge To santa, too you

623
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 4: know WHAT i? Mean, like, man he needs The. GRINCH

624
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: i think he needs to go into business with The. Grinch,

625
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 4: Oh like they need to team Up so that's kind

626
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: of like just.

627
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: Like our mind. Craves LIKE i didn't introduce Fucking crampis

628
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: to my. Kid he just like was, like all, right

629
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: tell me about tell me everything about with.

630
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: Me, YEAH i didn't know about. Crampis still like, College,

631
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 4: YEAH i think it's.

632
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: BECOMING i think dark alternatives To santa are invading the

633
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: culture and the. Iconography, right same sex, marriage just say, it.

634
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: Jack to, it let's not talk around.

635
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: It that's WHY i never heard Of crampus WHEN i

636
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: was a.

637
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: Kid fifteenth Century Saint nicholas is starting to. Spread, Germany

638
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: Nederland's Saint Nicholas day for a while was celebrated On

639
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: december sixth BECAUSE i was his like Hatron Saint. DAY

640
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: i feel like that was a much bigger. Deal back

641
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: in the, day was, like you know Who's Saint day it?

642
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Is they just needed, something you, know well they had

643
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: on fucking. Board i've been sucking on this grave for

644
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: three days in a. ROW i haven't gotten.

645
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: It just hits different ever since we stole the bones From.

646
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: Turkey but, yeah this is the first time that like

647
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: kids would wake up to little gifts like sweets and

648
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: dolls and they had to make up an excuse for

649
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: How Saint nicholas was getting into the house so he

650
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: could like pass through, doors and for the first time

651
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: he started talking about sliding down. Chimneys but his outfit

652
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: was still pretty fucked. Up at this. Point he wore

653
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: a pope. Hat wore that fucked that is. Weird he

654
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: started wearing the red, robes but he was wearing a pope, hat,

655
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: WHICH i the pope pat is just the funniest fashion

656
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: choice of all. Time it is just Like i'm a

657
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: humble servant Of. God and then the hat is like

658
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: three feet tall just, so but like, This i'm taller than.

659
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: Everyone it's an.

660
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: ANTENNA i couldn't Hear god if my hat wasn't so,

661
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: high so his voice could pierce the hat and then

662
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 3: go into my.

663
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: Head all, right.

664
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: Enter The, protestants AND i feel like The origin Of

665
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 1: santa's one of the only stories Where catholics come off

666
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: looking good by. Comparison So protestant leaders Like Martin luther are,

667
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: like get rid of that. Shit No catholic, saints no,

668
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: worshiping like it was just a thing where you brought

669
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: presents to Baby jesus on his. Birthday Chris, kringle by the,

670
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: way An anglicized version of Christ. Kindle so his nickname

671
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: is basically just a translation of Baby, jesus which is

672
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: why we sing Baby, JESUS i can't wait.

673
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 2: Every Christmas eve in my. Household that's what it, En

674
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: that's what it. Meant it was Baby.

675
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: Jesus, Yeah Chris kringle Is, Christie Christian, kindle.

676
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: Christ, Kindle, okay.

677
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: But, Yeah protestants were kept trying to put out The christmas.

678
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Thing they were just like fucking, like this is so.

679
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: Bad everybody's so happy and they're having. Fun they keep

680
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: fucking each other and so waking out.

681
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: There they're looking at the window of their. Hut these

682
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: fuckers always Time martin writes a feces about, This i'm

683
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: on ninety, eight.

684
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 6: Motherfucker just, Wait i'm got one more loaded for your fucking.

685
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 7: Ass, so, so in trying to kill The Saint nicholas,

686
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 7: thing they rebrand hit like they're like this fucking this

687
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 7: ship won't go, away like all our people are still

688
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 7: wearing the big fake fake white beard and.

689
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Stuff so they rebrand him his Father. Christmas In, germany

690
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: he's known as why Not schmann Or Christmas man and

691
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: looked exactly Like Saint, nicholas and then, yeah so basically

692
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: he gets like written out of the, show and then

693
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: his absence makes everybody miss, him and he becomes stronger

694
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: and becomes like The Marvel avengers version of A christmas

695
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: superhero at The oh.

696
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: Wow so they did The, okay they banned cereal flavored

697
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: vapes for the. Teams, yeah exactly and more.

698
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: Popular, woh, Okay.

699
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Okay The puritans come along in the mid sixteen hundreds

700
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: try to Ban christmas, altogether and they thought the whole

701
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: celebration reeked Of. Catholicism this Stinks catholic.

702
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: Time, yeah it reeks OF i say that.

703
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: Every Every, christmas this whole thing in my house goes.

704
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: Thirty like this.

705
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: Reeks, yeah you can always count on The protestants to

706
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: make The catholics look good for the only time in.

707
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: History for late final, yeah late seventeen, hundreds early eighteen.

708
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: Hundreds it comes over THE us people From, England, Germany

709
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: netherlands bring Their christmas traditions with. Them you get like

710
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: a whole mixture Of Father, Christmas Christkindle center clause that

711
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: kind of coalesces into the figure we Call Santa claus

712
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: and Specifically New York city becomes a big focal point of.

713
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: This like in the late seventeen hundreds early eighteen, Hundreds

714
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: New york At christmas time was like a little fucked

715
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: up because everybody got so drunk and the holiday was

716
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: an excuse to get drunk and Harassed, catholics according to the.

717
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: Dossier and so we get The Christmas ride of eighteen

718
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: oh six where mobs are drunk and Anti, catholic Anti

719
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: irish sailors and Journeyman butcher's Attacked Saint peter's. Church local

720
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: irishman defended the, church and a police, Officer Christian, lunswanger was,

721
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: killed making him the FIRST nypd officer killed in the

722
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: line of duty at that. Time and So Washington irving

723
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: and Other New york area writers are trying to like

724
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: do a, remake create a new identity For New york

725
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: At christmas time because it was like at that time

726
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: famous for being a place to go like Kill catholic

727
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: flicks for, sport and so they uh mind the legends

728
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: of like the First dutch, colonists you create this Thing

729
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: history Of New york written by this pen Name suddnimenous

730
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Author Dedrich, knickerbocker and this is where we get the Phrase,

731
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: knickerbocker which is like how we get the name of

732
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: the basketball team to this. Day but that, story that

733
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: book like has A Saint nick part that people think and.

734
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: Like in that, one we get the first time where

735
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: he's like riding a flying wagon there's no reindeer, yet

736
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: and then climbs down chimneys leaves gifts for. Children so he,

737
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: basically like popular fiction at the, time starts taking these

738
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: traditions and making them like part of the popular, consciousness.

739
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 4: All as a distraction to be Like New York, city

740
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: let's not talk about all that shit that happens At

741
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: christmas with the Anti Catholic, Right, yeah there's a fucking

742
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: guy who flies in a. Way yeah look up, there

743
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 4: look about. That that cool.

744
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: Cool said something, guys and, yeah it was. Amazing so

745
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: Was The Night Before christmas is the most Famous Santa claus.

746
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: Poem some people say it's the most Famous american poem

747
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: of all, time which fucking sucks For. America but it

748
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: turns out there's an even, earlier anonymous, poem and we'll

749
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: get to why it was anonymous in a, bit but

750
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: it's Called Old Santa clause With Much, delight published in

751
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty one and illustrated children's, book and it basically

752
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Invents santa's reindeer delivering the gifts On Christmas, eve the

753
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: sleigh flying over chimney. Tops and when they like it

754
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: became so, influential they were, like, wait why don't we

755
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: know who wrote? This and he says that the person

756
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: who wrote it was from the Far, north near The arctic,

757
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: lands and that he had like brought this back and

758
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: it was basically like an indigenous person had like written this.

759
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: Poem and then because they had like indigenous, ancestry he was,

760
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: like we're just gonna call this one anonymous.

761
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 8: Essentially oh, wow of course completely all its fucking why,

762
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 8: wait so that's sort of like we're like attributing to

763
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 8: the north whole ish to that's all sort of.

764
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: Like from The.

765
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: North that's why the reindeer get written into.

766
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 6: It, wait like we're like indigenous people up. There, No,

767
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 6: no it's like way way norther than, That.

768
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: No even northern Than he's probably never even met. Indigenous,

769
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 1: hey why.

770
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: Is your hair so? Beautiful? Man why is your hair so? Beautiful?

771
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: Hey what the? Fun what is this about LIKE i,

772
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: said some guy fucking told me from the.

773
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: North but uh the guy as in talking about like

774
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: the guy who wrote. It he said that his mother

775
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: told him stories where he had heard that reindeers could,

776
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: fly and his mother being An indian of the. Area

777
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: uh SO i.

778
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 2: Got a little shout out.

779
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: That like all this like xenophobia is generating all This

780
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 4: christmas ship like they're they were killing like beating Up Irish,

781
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 4: catholics killing, them.

782
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: And they're, like we need a fucking new story for this.

783
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: City and THEN i was, like, uh.

784
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 6: This indigenous, Thing it's, like what WHAT i mean?

785
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: Wrong North north is WHAT i? Better Better.

786
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: Viking guy or? SOMETHING i don't.

787
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 2: Know, yeah for, sure for sure he was A. Viking

788
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 2: probably definitely definitely had like blue. Eyes i'm.

789
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, okay, yeah, Okay oh Fucking. American it's like

790
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: crazy to. Me they're like those are the pressures, excited

791
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: like like you, know lightly forming this entire.

792
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: Story, yeah he's got little slay, helpers.

793
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Helpers, yeah he's in a slave seems like you're gonna say, Slave,

794
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: no it's not a, wagon unlay unpaid. Assistance there's also

795
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: a theory that goes that because that the, tribe the

796
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: indigenous tribe that they kind of stole this flying reindeer thing. From,

797
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: also like the reindeer eat a bunch of magic, mushrooms

798
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: and so do the shamans in, there and the magic

799
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: mushrooms are like bright red and, white and they have

800
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: a tradition where the shaman would come to your, house

801
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: come down the, chimney eat magic, mushrooms go to the

802
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: underworld that you feed. Him you give him, food cool,

803
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: Cool he eats the magic, mushrooms goes down into the,

804
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: underworld brings back gifts from the. Underworld so it sounds

805
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: like the whole thing could be like basically lifted a

806
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: whole lot from this like mushroom trip tradition in a Shamanic.

807
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 4: And i'm sure like these gifts are like metaphorical to

808
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: like wisdom not shut the fuck up.

809
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: Waystation but, yeah a shaman from the near The North,

810
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: pole drives a reindeer pulled, sleigh enters through the, chimney

811
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: eats red and white, shrooms goes on a, trip brings

812
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: back gifts from the. Underworld like it feels feels very.

813
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: Similar so, yeah, Wow so how do we get milk into.

814
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 1: This it was all covered in the, milk, right, yeah

815
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: And coca. Cola but if you want to speaking Of coca,

816
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: cola if you want to find who really Designed, santa

817
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 1: it's Probably Thomas. Nast like in terms of like what

818
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: we think of when we Picture, santa it's this, guy,

819
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: uh the most famous newspaper cartoonist of the nineteenth century

820
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: and so obviously a household. Name But Thomas nast coined

821
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: the use of the elephant and the donkey for The

822
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: republican And democratic, parties and one of the first cartoons

823
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: that he ever did Of santa is he's bringing gifts

824
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: to the un in soldiers and he has a puppet

825
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: Of Jefferson davis with a noose around his, neck Like

826
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: sants's fucking.

827
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: A all, right we're, back, yeah, Okay, santa all, right.

828
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: All right, said but these are ones where he kind

829
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: of draws him as an elf, again back to the height.

830
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: THING i feel like Tall santa is more and more

831
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: of a new, invention and like back in the early

832
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: days they were, like, no he's an elf, too he's.

833
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: Tiny but he drew images Of santa in his workshop

834
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: located at The North, pole had an account book in

835
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: which he kept his list of naughty And nice, children

836
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: and it's the first time that you see. Him like

837
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: there are a lot of paintings where it's, Like, OKAY

838
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: i see like this guy has a white, beard but

839
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: prior to, this it's like he kind of looks like

840
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: an opium, atic like he has he has a, pipe

841
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: but it's really, long and he looks kind of gaunt

842
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: and fucked. Up looks a little like The Philadelphia Eagles Santa.

843
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Claus but this is the guy who like kind of

844
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: gives this big jolly white beardage red with white fur

845
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: Piping Santa.

846
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: Claus this Is, yeah he's definitely the pipe is he

847
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: is piping it up and like every one of the

848
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: he's a.

849
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: Big like smoking a pipe is a big part of

850
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: his iconography that's gone away because Of Woke. Whoa you gotta, ask,

851
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: like what what was in that?

852
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Pipe?

853
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: Man it seems Like santa was into some real or

854
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: whatever smoking.

855
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: Krills, baby don't worry about, it. KRILLS i haven't heard that.

856
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 6: Term, So, chris you want your president or?

857
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: What? MAN i got a lot of, tables, MAN.

858
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: I wonder why he's so.

859
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 4: HAPPY i, mean and his eyes, too like he's the

860
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 4: eyes are very like definitely what's in the. Pipe it's not,

861
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 4: last it's not sort of like stoic pipe smoker man.

862
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: Image it's like you want this little dude all? Right,

863
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: well LIKE i was, saying When santa came To, america

864
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: he shed a lot of the darker aspects of The

865
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: Saint nicholas. Story In, france as mentioned, earlier he's accompanied

866
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: by a punisher trickster figure who meets out beatings to

867
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: all the bad. Kids and like THAT'S i, mean that

868
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: is essentially like the way that people like The grinch

869
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: traditions That i've seen people doing in viral. Videos it's

870
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: like the parents come in and like steal the, present

871
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: stressed as The. Grinch like that feels like that's what

872
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to. Do that's what they're trying to, recreate

873
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: even though they probably don't know about. It crampis most famous,

874
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: one hailing From germany And Alpine. Austria half, man half.

875
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: Goat he actually Predates Saint nicholas. ORIGINATES i like. That

876
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: they were, like, yeah, Oh Saint, nicholas you like that. Part,

877
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: see we have this tradition. Mainly our main part of

878
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: the tradition is where you know this crampest guy comes. In,

879
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: uh crampus means claw and he comes in and he

880
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: scratches your ship up and eats children who are bad

881
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and like some of the images are so fucking. Horrifying

882
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: it's just like him pulling children who are out of

883
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: like a basket that they're hiding in with like a

884
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: giant fucking. Tongue, yeah oh my, god, dude this.

885
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: These are really. Dark, yeah he's really trying that. Tongue

886
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: put that.

887
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: Away this one right, There, yeah there's another.

888
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: One this child is in. Chains he's like ripping the

889
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: kid's ears, off, well licking his. Hair why is he licking?

890
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: EVERYBODY i don't like how he's got one hoof and

891
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: one naughty, foot you, know, uh oh what's?

892
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: This what exactly are? You? Crampis this is, yeah he's, yeah.

893
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: He's always got one foot and one.

894
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: Hoof what is that?

895
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 3: About how did this is probably probably actually don't answer,

896
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 3: this But i'm gonna ask. It how did goats become

897
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: like satanic like? Iconography does?

898
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: That anyone know? That off the top of their? Heads

899
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: and have you ever.

900
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: Hunt out with a? Goat they're fucking their their eyes

901
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: are really fucking. Creepy they are a little. Devil, yeah

902
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: it's the clothing, puff, Right that's what it. Is, biblically

903
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: it's like things have clothing, hoss don't they isn't THAT

904
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: i don't. Think but they got big. Asses uh oh my,

905
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: god they just got so.

906
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: Horny, sorry sorry for Jacket. Santa for, me it's a

907
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: it's a, horus but.

908
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: Like this this is still like in the eighteen hundred's.

909
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: Uh crampos cartan Or crampis cards became a popular fixture

910
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: Of christmas In, germany depicting a cloth than, hooved four

911
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Tongued crampis spiriting bad children down To hell with the

912
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: cheery message Gruslan, Krampus greetings From, crampus.

913
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 4: Oh, ship And i'm taking you down To, hell white.

914
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 4: Bastard is Your like are the kids at your kids?

915
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: School are they like, hell, Yeah, Crampis or they're, like.

916
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: Fuck, Dude, crampis, man what are you doing at your

917
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: house to guard? Interested and it's it's a kid anti.

918
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: Clause, yeah because one kid who will always be, like,

919
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah i've seen that. Movie here's how it, ends and

920
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: then like he like makes up the ending and then

921
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: LIKE i love that. Guy, YEAH i love. That that's

922
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: a cool's. Underrated he actually fumed my. Ass he was, like,

923
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah i've seen. Me i've seen an endgame AND i

924
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: had never made it through. Endgame and so my kids came.

925
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: Home they were, LIKE i know How Tony stark. Dies,

926
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: uh what's? It what's the big purple bag of. House,

927
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: Yeah he's, LIKE i know How Tony stark. Dies Then

928
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: panos chokes him and crushes his suit into his neck

929
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: and like breaks all the bones in his. NECK i was,

930
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: like that's so fucked, Up like what a dark. THING

931
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: i was, like you guys aren't allowed to watch.

932
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 9: Exactly i'm gonna. Puke, yes that in fact wasn't.

933
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: Ship i'm so.

934
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: Upset there are other parts Of germany where he's more

935
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: of a trick. Trickster Bell's nickel visits the home Of

936
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: german kids a few weeks Before christmas to determine who's

937
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: been naughty and who's been, nice and Then german immigrants

938
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: Brought bell's nickel traditions Into Central, pennsylvania where there's some

939
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: just amazing photos from the early days of Like Saint

940
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Nicholas and then have you ever seen like those Old halloween?

941
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: Pictures where it's, like what the fuck kind of like

942
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: dark ship is?

943
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: This this is way worse THAN i thought it was gonna. Be,

944
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 2: yeah this is really, well the fuck are these? Freaks

945
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: this is really.

946
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Bad that's What santa used to look like there in the,

947
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: middle like little one on The.

948
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah hell, dude this is fucking.

949
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Terrifying it is one of the scary it's scarier like

950
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: picture those like Old halloween costumes where it's, like what

951
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: what the fuck were people? Into, Yeah i'm, like are

952
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: the other are these dudes in blackface or?

953
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 2: Something get into?

954
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: That no discussion is complete without a mention Of Black,

955
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: pete where his.

956
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: In The.

957
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: Netherlands his original role was to hand out streets to

958
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: good kids and carry off the naughty kids in his oversized.

959
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: Sack he's one Of santa's. Helpers over the next, century

960
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: black people was a celebrated part of Center clause traditions

961
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: and then other. Lends he was always depicted by white

962
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: actors in blackface with large red lips and afro, wigs

963
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: gold hoop earrings And moorish, costume and this has been

964
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: a big controversy in The. Netherlands is like people have

965
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: been like, guys this is this is just, blackface and

966
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: like the people are, like, no, no he's actually blackened

967
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: by the soot from the, chimney but his clothes. Aren't

968
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: just sounds like you just made that base. Spot, yeah, yeah,

969
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: yeah where's his soot? FROM i don't, know, man you

970
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: got to ask. Him, YEAH i don't know what he's thinking.

971
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 2: About.

972
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah But dutch people of color report being called black

973
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: pete pretty much from, birth and The Center claus season

974
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: is particularly. Traumatic so there was a twenty twelve nationwide

975
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: campaign called Swarti pete is racism that succeeded in raising

976
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: awareness of.

977
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: It but it also there's like the same thing like In.

978
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 4: SPAIN i know, THAT i think with one of The Wise,

979
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: men where it's like a huge, thing like everybody's getting

980
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 4: like everybody's getting in on.

981
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 2: It they're, like, hey, man where's your fucking where's your bulk?

982
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: Bizarre where's your bulk? Bizarre? Blackface? Yikes, no this is

983
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: just this is Just.

984
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: Christmas this isn't? Racist are you?

985
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: Serious Like i'm doing this Because i'm so.

986
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 4: Happy it's like the happiest time of year right, Now

987
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 4: i'm so filled with joy right, now this is this

988
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 4: isn't racist at.

989
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 2: All come, on come.

990
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: On but, Yeah Thomas nast gets a lot of the.

991
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: Credit it's like those those two, guys the guy who

992
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: designed The Quaker oats, guy And thomas nasked the guy

993
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: gave us the donkey and the. Elephant it Was Coca

994
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: cola hired The Quaker oats guy to kind of create the.

995
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: Image but IT'S i don't, know you can, stop people

996
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: can stop saying that Like Coca cola Invented Santa.

997
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 4: Claus what it is is probably more just like at

998
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: that point with mass, media that piction so early on

999
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: from a company like that sort of cemented that depiction

1000
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 4: Of Santa.

1001
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: Claus, yeah if you want a better, explanation it was

1002
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: like some northern Shamanic uh tribal cultures that eight mushrooms

1003
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: and like imagined flying reindeer and a guy coming down their.

1004
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: Chimney you know that is.

1005
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 4: That is the most like you want to know WHAT

1006
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: i just heard on a podcast asked Responsible right there you.

1007
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 6: Go it Ain't Coca cola, Guy they stole it from indigenous.

1008
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: People and then podcast person has entered the. Chat that's.

1009
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: Right tell that to The Santa claus that shows up

1010
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: at your Work christmas. Party, hey, hey get over, here, Man,

1011
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: hey you on the.

1012
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: Clock this guy is looking. There let me tell you

1013
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 2: some stories about how racists.

1014
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: Holidays, YEAH i mean there's all sorts of different like

1015
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: is he? Immortal is? He is it more of a

1016
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: game of throne situation where you kill him to become?

1017
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: Him it's hard to. SAY i prefer to think that

1018
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: it's you, know a Different sanda each year after like

1019
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: a battle has been fought in accordance with The Jamie loftis.

1020
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: Tradition, blake were you A santa kid at?

1021
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 7: All?

1022
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: Ever? Oh yeah you? Were, yeah of, Course, YEAH i

1023
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 2: was all.

1024
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 3: IN i remember WHEN i WHEN i found out it

1025
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: was it was VERY i THINK i handled it pretty.

1026
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: Well handled it pretty.

1027
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: WELL i think considering my volatility as a, CHILD i

1028
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: would SAY i handled it pretty.

1029
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: WELL i flipped a. TABLE i was just for like an.

1030
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: Afternoon it was like why would They my older sister told.

1031
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: ME i was, like why would they lie to?

1032
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 2: Us that's?

1033
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 4: Crazy oh, RIGHT i see. That the trust with your

1034
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 4: parents even more than The Sandy's like.

1035
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: What, YEAH i mean there's a LOT i lost someone

1036
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: LIKE i felt LIKE i lost a, brother like basically

1037
00:58:59,040 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: was like WHAT i.

1038
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: Felt, damn you had a really close relationship With. Santa

1039
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: he was so. Sorry, Yeah i'm so, Sorry. BRO i didn't. Know,

1040
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: OKAY i didn't. Know that's, sweet but thank, you h thank,

1041
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: you thank.

1042
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 4: You was there a person in like a relative that

1043
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 4: really kept reinforcing it or like it was full court

1044
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: press from everyone.

1045
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: Like that was MY i, mean my dad.

1046
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 3: Didn't my Dad's, jewish so didn't give a ship it

1047
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 3: IS U and you're, like why does.

1048
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: Dad always make the jack off hand motion every time

1049
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: mom talks About Santa?

1050
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: Claus why is it always waving unfilled out divorce papers

1051
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: at my mom WHENEVER i.

1052
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 4: Was itching his fingers together going Eatle.

1053
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: DICK i had a thing in here about Whether santa

1054
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: has a big dick or. Not BUT i.

1055
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: DON'T i don't think we need to get into. IT

1056
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: i think we have.

1057
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: Time but Some santas have big dick, energy you, know big.

1058
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: Time, yeah, yeah, WOW i think of, MAN i. DON'T

1059
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: i don't EVEN i would think you.

1060
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Have like, generally my first assumption is little. Dick oh

1061
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: sorry what? Yeah child would probably be the right. Answer

1062
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: it would be like.

1063
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 4: It would Be rudolph's nose down there for, Me like

1064
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 4: it's not even a. Penis it's just like that is. Correct, yeah, yeah,

1065
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: yeah there's nothing there having.

1066
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: A cherry nose and cherry yeah, yeah, exactly just old cherry.

1067
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: Dick that is a.

1068
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Thing there's like a lot of questions, now like people are,

1069
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: like do you or don't, You like does The santa

1070
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: myth harm? Children child psychologists say, yes but what the

1071
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: fuck do they?

1072
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 2: Know? Books book, idiots? Idiots wait why for what?

1073
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 4: Reason just because of like parental trust or is it

1074
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 4: the like the expectation of gifts, thing BECAUSE i know

1075
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: that's a huge thing too when you're like.

1076
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: What it bring you isn't? Real maybe the first developmental

1077
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: loss that are child, experiences but it's also like a

1078
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: chance for them to figure some ship.

1079
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 4: Out you know you're arguing with child psychologists right. Now,

1080
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 4: yeah but like it's also like you got to figure

1081
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: some ship. Out, wait but is it that? Bad like

1082
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 4: do people REALLY i guess in that? Sense what it's

1083
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 4: it's an unnecessary trauma for a childhood or yeah it's.

1084
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 1: Not Like i'll tell you cut answer on. It, yeah,

1085
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: yeah it was, traumatic they. Say the kids who experienced

1086
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: the biggest letdown were ones whose parents really built up

1087
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: The santa myth and came up with like elaborate hoaxes

1088
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: to perpetuate, it.

1089
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 4: Right because you're, just, yeah you're just fucking gaslighting your

1090
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 4: kids and whatever the.

1091
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: Fuck SO i forgot about.

1092
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: This my dad, would, uh so we don't cut this part.

1093
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 3: Out but we had carpeting in our, home SO i

1094
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: can please cut that.

1095
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 10: Out so my dad would step in like baby powder

1096
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 10: somehow and leave tracks that would be inferred to Be santa's.

1097
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: Footprints footprints snow? Footprints did?

1098
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: He and then you think that you didn't know how snow?

1099
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 3: WORKED i am now thinking About my dad was also

1100
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 3: a massive, Cokehead so get.

1101
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: Back into a drug.

1102
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: Lab you gotta line up a couple of rails For

1103
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: santa to keep them going through the.

1104
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Night he would.

1105
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 3: Have footprints Like santa footprints around the house and then

1106
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 3: our stairs the carpeting. MATTERS i, remember it was so the.

1107
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 3: Powder there's so much, powder it was, Slippery and the

1108
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 3: first year they did, THAT i just fucking flew. DOWN

1109
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 3: i tripped and fell down the. Stairs and then my parents,

1110
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: forgot like three hundred and sixty four days, Later so

1111
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 3: THEN i tripped and fell down the stairs again like

1112
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 3: years in a row On christmas and it was like

1113
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 3: hobbled that.

1114
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: Morning so they Like santa cracked ship through the house

1115
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: like he tracked like white. Powder, yeah did they do

1116
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: a creepy thing where like his footprints stopped at your?

1117
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: Bedside santa was watching you for a.

1118
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: While many just watching the. Sleep oh my. Dresser or

1119
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: there was a gun with a single bullet in. It

1120
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 2: what the hell is? This why'd you have this jamison

1121
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 2: in your? Room what is going on?

1122
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Here naughty?

1123
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: Question Mark? Bullake, yeah, wait this Is santa's old high school.

1124
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: Yearbook it was captain of the basketball. Team.

1125
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: Tears they say the best advice is to follow the child's.

1126
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: Lead when a kid hits a certain stage of cognitive

1127
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: development and start asking questions about what's. Real then you

1128
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: can like kind of be, like what what do you?

1129
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: Think some people Think santa is more of a magical

1130
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: idea than a real. Person by these. Mushrooms there you,

1131
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: Go there you.

1132
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: Go Now i'm gonna put the light show on And

1133
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: i'll be right.

1134
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: Back, blake thank you so much for joining.

1135
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 2: US i thank.

1136
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: You i'm so, Glad Like miles AND i were, there

1137
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: like where we were like Does blake know That sanna

1138
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 1: is not? Real and So i'm glad that that we

1139
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: didn't take that from very different.

1140
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: Recording if we had to pretend like this is a historical, figure.

1141
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 3: It would have been pretty. Tough, YEAH i would have

1142
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 3: been very. Aggressive wow so he's?

1143
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: Old huh? Yeah?

1144
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 3: Wow so when are we going to get to what

1145
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 3: he's up to these? Days on the line figures doesn't reminded.

1146
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: Me we like to close out by asking the, question

1147
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: We're santa a real? Figure would he have been On

1148
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 1: Jeffrey epstein's flight?

1149
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 3: Logs he'd have his, own so he wouldn't because he

1150
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 3: has a, Sleigh SO i know it's kind of a cop,

1151
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 3: out but he would.

1152
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: Be on The santa.

1153
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: Logues that was our answer For erkele has his own jet,

1154
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: pack so like he wouldn't need To, like, yes he

1155
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: is sciencey and, horny which seems to be the main,

1156
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: indicators like that somebody like a famous scientist who's like

1157
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: a little uncomfortably horny like would be on, There but

1158
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: he has a jet, pack so why would he need

1159
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: to be in a similar? THING i also feel like

1160
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't THAT i say no on this. ONE i.

1161
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 2: CAN'T i.

1162
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: Can't that's My christmas present to you. GUYS i need

1163
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: would not be on the flight. Line, No, however people

1164
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: with weird dicks do hang around that, guy AND i

1165
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: do believe it is a reindeer nose that lights. Up

1166
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 1: it is always the last, person like the last person you.

1167
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: Expect but in the case Of Bill. Clinton but, no,

1168
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: No but for that, reason it is not actually a

1169
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: it's not a.

1170
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 4: Phallus it's just how he's anatomically built as like a

1171
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 4: mythical monster. Person, yeah because he's his Technical in my,

1172
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 4: mind he's a. Monster he's not a. HUMAN i, mean

1173
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 4: he has the human, features but he is scientifically a.

1174
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: Monster so, NO i think he is not because he's a.

1175
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: Monster.

1176
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 3: Right this is an answer that's going to really hurt

1177
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 3: me to, Say but this is my, real honest. Answer

1178
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: is that do you think a man who has access

1179
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 3: to every children's home in the world needs to go

1180
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 3: to that?

1181
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: Island? Wow?

1182
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: Wow and and we'll leave you with. That mary wrote

1183
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: That we'll be right back ruminate on that. Blake where

1184
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: can people find?

1185
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: You follow?

1186
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: You tell you how they feel about that last. COMMENT

1187
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 1: i know how you feel about. IT i think we.

1188
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 3: ALL i don't feel no one's going to feel good about.

1189
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: It you can find me At Blake lexler and all social.

1190
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 3: Media some fun shows coming. UP i was just In,

1191
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 3: chicago whole. AUDIENCE i was just Telling Jack zeigang people

1192
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 3: And fla which was a which was a thrill for.

1193
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 3: Me snarful that made these amazing shirts that said The

1194
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 3: Philadelphia plumpers and old Retro eagles writing and then like

1195
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 3: a little eagle chicken with big fat.

1196
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: Lines which is. Amazing so thank You. Snarf it was

1197
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: great BEING.

1198
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 3: Starfula and then also if you want to see me

1199
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 3: Live New, York Zeit, gang this is the biggest show

1200
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 3: In New york of the year for.

1201
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 2: Me january series huh, OH i Think New Year's, Eve Times.

1202
01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 3: Square, yeah IF i wanted to ruin my life and

1203
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: career in that, order perform The year's Of rock and Even,

1204
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm gonna be in the ball and there's gonna be.

1205
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: Uncontrolled they're gonna throw me off a. Roof, well there's

1206
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: a naked guy in the. Ball he died of. Exposure

1207
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 3: he's not asking for. Help he just seems content with

1208
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 3: this being his. Demise his.

1209
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: Legs holy, shit good lord d multiple.

1210
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 2: Torsos so.

1211
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: Sure january, Sixteenth i'm gonna be At Little field In brooklyn,

1212
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 3: again biggest, show biggest show of the new year for.

1213
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: Me and Then march, Fifth i'm coming down To atlanta

1214
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 3: to headline for the first.

1215
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 2: Time and uh, yeah that'll be a. Go So march,

1216
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: fifth you have yours around, days amaze your. Assignments thank.

1217
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: You Miles where could people find?

1218
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: You i'll think it stuff find me everywhere at miles Of.

1219
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: Gray all, right, yep how we find? Me A Jack

1220
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: underscore O brian On, Twitter jack obi one On Blue.

1221
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: Sky i'll be back after this to give you my

1222
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: No no notebook dom And i'll talk to you. Then all.

1223
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: Right that Was. SANTA i think standing, here five episodes

1224
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: into Our iconograph series of, EPISODES i Think santa's got

1225
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: to be the most iconic person we've.

1226
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: Covered he's at The he's at the top of the.

1227
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: ICONOGRAPH i learned a lot during the course of these five.

1228
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: EPISODES i Think Miss piggy is probably the biggest. Mover

1229
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: had no idea how massive The Muppet show ratings were

1230
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: when that was, On like hundreds of millions of. Homes

1231
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: we're watching that. Show So Miss piggy is going way

1232
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: higher THAN i expected at the. OUTSET i think she's

1233
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: probably coming in maybe tied at number two With. Einstein But,

1234
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: santa you, know so iconic that when you put on

1235
01:08:55,080 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: the three main accoutrement of his, iconography the, beard the,

1236
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: suit the, hat people like can't even see. You you

1237
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: could be their assistant principle and they just like can't

1238
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: perceive you as anything other Than. Santa my final thought On,

1239
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: santa one piece Of santa lore THAT i meant to

1240
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: hit is the time space continuum as it relates To. Santa,

1241
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 1: obviously he's a, mystical magical. Being the various movies have

1242
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: a lot of different ways of dealing with the fact

1243
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: that he has to deliver so many presents on a single.

1244
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: Night my dad's version Of, santa he told me that

1245
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: his older, brother like one, night Heardless Leigh, bells snuck

1246
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: down Saw santa and he was moving at a blinding,

1247
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 1: speed but then stopped for a, second turned, around gave

1248
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 1: his older Brother barry a little, wink and then turned

1249
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: around and you, know delivered the presence and was. Gone

1250
01:09:56,040 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: and that's usually the main way that we deal with

1251
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: this time. Continuum conundrum is. Fast he's moving at light.

1252
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: Speed people have noted online that he has about thirty

1253
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: one to thirty four hours in which to deliver presents

1254
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: due to time. ZONES i don't know how that's exactly,

1255
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: possible BUT i think they're trying to buy him a

1256
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: little extra time. There but everyone acknowledges he'd have to

1257
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: be moving at essentially light speed to get to all

1258
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: two billion homes with children on the. Planet but that's

1259
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: all from our, perspective. RIGHT i want to take a

1260
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: page here From einstein's. Book einstein's first breakthrough on his

1261
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: way to the theory of, relativity thanks to reading a

1262
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 1: bunch of sci fi when he was a, kid was

1263
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: to imagine himself riding a beam of light as a.

1264
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: Child AND i want to do that same thought experiment.

1265
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: Here what is it like to be writing that beam

1266
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: of light of light speed travel With Santa claus On christmas?

1267
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: Night is it like for? Him and usually when you

1268
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: see him in the house in one of these, movies

1269
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: he's not just a flash that like blows through the.

1270
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:11,839
Speaker 2: House he's A he's.

1271
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: A guy moving around delivering. Presence and sometimes he's like

1272
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: going fast and then slowing down and going fast like

1273
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: In My dad's. Story the Movie The Santa claus explains

1274
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: this by implying that there's something where the fabric of

1275
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 1: time space changes inside that house while he's in. There

1276
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: one house at a, time time slows down As santa

1277
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: moves through, it delivering. Presence and it's sort of like

1278
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: a bullet time. Thing where as he's going through your,

1279
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: house if you looked, outside there would just be you,

1280
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: know everything would be frozen because your house is moving

1281
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: at an incredible. Speed but If santa is spending a

1282
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: let's let's be generous and say a minute of his

1283
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: time to place the, presence eat the cookies again generously.

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Speaker 1: Fast but he's doing all of that in one. Minute

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Speaker 1: but he's doing that two billion times Every Christmas eve

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Speaker 1: Into christmas, morning A christmas. Night From santa's, Perspective In,

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Speaker 1: santa bullet time in the time space continuum would have

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Speaker 1: to last three, thousand eight hundred and five. Years that

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Speaker 1: is two billion times one minute would be three than

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and five. Years AND i don't know any

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Speaker 1: other way to imagine it from his, perspective even if

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Speaker 1: he's like a blinding flash to, us to, him he

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Speaker 1: has to move around through the room and get the

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Speaker 1: presence out and set the toys up and eat the.

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Speaker 1: Cookies for you gotta think at least a minute now

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Speaker 1: if you won't grant me, that if you want to say,

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Speaker 1: no it's just a second for him, somehow like he

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Speaker 1: has like hyper computer, brain and like even to, him

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Speaker 1: it's perceived as a one second. Flash even then that,

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Speaker 1: night the process of hitting all two billion homes would

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Speaker 1: last sixty three. Years so just From santa's, perspective every

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Speaker 1: time he leaves The North pole to deliver, presence he's

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Speaker 1: saying goodbye to his, home to his, wife to his,

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Speaker 1: bed to his, elves or somewhere between sixty three years

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Speaker 1: and three, thousand eight hundred and five years at a,

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Speaker 1: minimum just. Perceptually. Existentially when he gets back, home he's

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Speaker 1: Like Ken watsonabi's character at the beginning Of. Inception he's

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Speaker 1: been gone forever for Missus, clause it's been a. Night for,

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Speaker 1: him it's been an. Eternity and that time off in,

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Speaker 1: between that time Between christmases where he's off and not

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Speaker 1: delivering presence perceptually from his point of, view must be

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Speaker 1: a blink in. Between just it turns of eternal, night

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Speaker 1: just breaking and entering into people's homes over and over

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Speaker 1: with no, sunlight just Twinkling christmas. Lights i'm just, saying

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Speaker 1: it's no wonder he's a bit cranky On, christmas even

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Speaker 1: That rudolph stop motion right before he's about to just

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Speaker 1: once again enter the existential eternal night Of, CHRISTMAS a

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Speaker 1: true existential nightmare THAT i hope you pass on to

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Speaker 1: the children in your life This. CHRISTMAS i hope you

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Speaker 1: have a, warm wonderful holiday with your. Family we're back

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Speaker 1: WITH i think one more week of regular episodes this,

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Speaker 1: week and then we're going to take off from iconograph

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Speaker 1: episodes over the. Holiday but over the, HOLIDAY i think

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Speaker 1: we have our best lineup of holiday and year end

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Speaker 1: episodes ever in the history of The Daily, zeikeist and

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Speaker 1: will also be counting down the top ten episodes of the,

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Speaker 1: year your ten favorite episodes according to how much listen

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Speaker 1: to them and like them and share. Them that's going

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Speaker 1: to do it for The Santa iconograph episode. Five hope

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying this new. Format if you, are please share.

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Speaker 1: Them Happy holidays, Everyone bye, bye