WEBVTT - Fanatic About the Playoffs | Tyrone Johnson Recaps Rd. 1, Previews Rd. 2

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year. It is Tyrone Johnson, ty what's

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<v Speaker 1>up man? How are you? How are you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having me, of course, of course, can we

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<v Speaker 1>go through the range of emotions and thoughts we had

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday from one o'clock Eastern on through the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the night, one o'clock, of course, being the time

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<v Speaker 1>that the big Man news dropped, and then by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the night the Sixers moving on with a

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<v Speaker 1>very convincing showing without Joel against Washington. Yeah, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was tough. Well, first I was hoping that it

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<v Speaker 1>would just be okay, They'd say, hey, it's a day

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<v Speaker 1>to day just because of soreness. I was hoping there

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<v Speaker 1>was no injury at all. That's what I was hoping for,

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously that wasn't the case, so that was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they said day to day. I said, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not ruled out yet, so now let's try to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on the game. Once he's not out, let's focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the game. Let's put that to the side temporarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Then before the game he's on the court, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to ignore, like people are paying attention to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't just act like that didn't happen. So now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, wait that Mightne could play soon. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he'll pull a Willis Reed and try to play tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>There were people saying that then the game starts, that

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<v Speaker 1>they can't make shots early, and it's like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>could this possibly be a game six? And then the

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<v Speaker 1>second half happens. They explode, shots start falling, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they get Washington up out of there. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a roller coaster for me, for sure. I was

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<v Speaker 1>right alongside you front row of the roller coaster. A

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting day, but honestly not that abnormal when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the year that people have gone through, the

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<v Speaker 1>years that Sixers fans have gone through. Awesome to see

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<v Speaker 1>it end the way that it did. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>angst on Wednesday, and really good to see the guys

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<v Speaker 1>Galvanizes come together get the job done. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that second half just like everything started to click.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Danny Green's play at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>second quarter is something that we are not talking about enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Selton I just did a Twitter space tyrone and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of fun. We did not mention Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Green a single time, and so now I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to that. Well, maybe we did, I don't know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Green at the end of the second quarter was

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<v Speaker 1>so important, and I just can only imagine what he

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<v Speaker 1>was saying to the guys in the locker room at

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<v Speaker 1>halftime for them to come out the way that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a pivot point, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>often see pivot points right before halftime. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>really pleased to see Danny Green. I mean, the experience

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<v Speaker 1>that he brings on and off the floor I think

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<v Speaker 1>was on full display, whether or not we actually saw

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<v Speaker 1>it last night. Yeah, he's an extremely important player in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. I think he's an extremely important player, has

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<v Speaker 1>been all year. Fans were frustrated with them at Tim's

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<v Speaker 1>in the regular season, but you just see having had experience,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, just makes a huge difference. And there

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<v Speaker 1>might have been guys who are a little bit nervous

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<v Speaker 1>or worried about this close out, Oh what are we

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? Seem like he wasn't worried about a single thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's despite effect in the first half. Wasn't making shots.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't matter him one bit in a game the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy Sixers were without there MVP candidate who rose to

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<v Speaker 1>the occasion in a closeout spot X factor. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>cliche narrative to say, well, when you lose the best

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<v Speaker 1>player on your roster, one of the best players on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet, an MVP candidate, that everyone's gonna put all

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<v Speaker 1>their hands in. It's all hands on deck and band

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<v Speaker 1>together and give it your best. But that really was

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<v Speaker 1>the case for the Sixers in the win in Game five.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some who shine brighter than others, but really,

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<v Speaker 1>when you dissected the game, and Lauren, I think Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Green is a great case in point. There were various

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<v Speaker 1>juncts to the game where different guys stepped up, left

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<v Speaker 1>their fingerprint on it and helped the seventy Sixers take

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<v Speaker 1>care of business. On Wednesday, Seth Curry. He started the

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<v Speaker 1>season strong. He went through the situation after testing positive

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<v Speaker 1>for COVID. We all know why he was brought in

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<v Speaker 1>and he was fantastic. In Game five. He sought out

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<v Speaker 1>how will Nato exploited that matchup put up a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>spot which was great to see and it was certainly timely.

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<v Speaker 1>That was not a wasted thirty point by Seth Curry, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. It was his best game as a

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<v Speaker 1>sixer at the absolutely best moment. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was something about we probably didn't know about him coming

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<v Speaker 1>in because last year, if you paid attention to him

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<v Speaker 1>in Dallas at all, he didn't have the ball a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was pretty much just asked to be a

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<v Speaker 1>stand up shooter and that straight up shooter and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>He could put it on the floor a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than we probably realized, and we saw flashes of it

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the season, but between the health and the dribs

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<v Speaker 1>and drabs, with the different lineups and the different responsibilities,

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<v Speaker 1>it never fully came together. I think you saw like

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<v Speaker 1>the fully formed Seth Curry game last night, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually intrigued about what it could be going forward,

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<v Speaker 1>because now that's one more thing on film that Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>or any possible future opponent has to pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if we close out on this guy too hard,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy could put it on the floor and make

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<v Speaker 1>us pay, and not just scoring, he also was able

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<v Speaker 1>to distribute. That was a really really good game. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I think That's very encouraging for that are worried about

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Embie to have that anxiety that a player can

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<v Speaker 1>not only just score, which we kind of knew he

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<v Speaker 1>could do that, but can do it in so many

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. That was big. It's a great point he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lauren a well rounded player. I know that.

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<v Speaker 1>At the beginning of the season. I think some of

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<v Speaker 1>the chatter it seemed like from some of the fans

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, we got someone like Seth Curry and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he can replicate the type of role that JJ

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<v Speaker 1>Reddick had when JJ was here. I'm JJ fantastic, elite

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<v Speaker 1>at what he does, but there's more to Seth. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got a well rounded offensive game that can hurt you

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple different ways for sure, and it's relied

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<v Speaker 1>upon more when he's no longer the fourth or fifth

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<v Speaker 1>option on this team. Seth Curry is statistically speaking, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest shooters to ever play this game, but

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<v Speaker 1>right now he's a fourth option at best. When you

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<v Speaker 1>come into a team with Joel Embi, Tobias Harris, Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons and you're playing alongside them, really really cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see him be able to activate those sort of all

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<v Speaker 1>time good skills that he has that don't get called

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<v Speaker 1>upon that often when everybody's available, and then see him

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<v Speaker 1>rise to the occasion when those skills are needed. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a pleasure to watch him last night. Game four

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<v Speaker 1>was wonky, obviously because the Sixers were dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Embiid situation and listen to find a basketball player

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<v Speaker 1>and I see a potential MVP, go down, go back

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room. There's just human nature things that

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<v Speaker 1>for me speaking only, it would be impossible to avoid,

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<v Speaker 1>so hard to really know what stock to place in

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<v Speaker 1>game four. I thought Tobias Harris, who understandably saw more

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<v Speaker 1>coverage and more tension once Joe went out in Game four.

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias came back in Game five really versatile effort. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that he had a really really strong series from

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<v Speaker 1>the start in game one to how we wrapped things

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<v Speaker 1>up and help the Sixers put a bow on it

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<v Speaker 1>in game five. Interesting that you talk about Tobias having

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<v Speaker 1>a well rounded series, because that's what he's wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And he came to the Sixers just over two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago in twenty nineteen, and he expressed that his goals

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<v Speaker 1>were to become a reliable scorer for this team and

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<v Speaker 1>to become a closer. That became a bigger goal for

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<v Speaker 1>him as time went along, and I asked him about

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<v Speaker 1>that after the game, have you accomplished those goals? And

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<v Speaker 1>in a very Tobias Harris fashion, he said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm getting closer. He said, he likes the progress

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<v Speaker 1>he's making towards accomplishing those goals. But if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to assess it, I think he's become both a reliable

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<v Speaker 1>scorer and a closer. And should Joel Ebeat not be

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<v Speaker 1>available for any more games, that's going to be continued

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<v Speaker 1>to be relied upon. But when Joel comes back, it

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<v Speaker 1>will also be relied upon. And Tobias Harris is that

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<v Speaker 1>guy now, even if he's not willing to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>I am he is that guy. And I'm really impressed

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<v Speaker 1>with the way that he came here. He set the goals,

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<v Speaker 1>he signed a new contract, and then he continued to

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<v Speaker 1>get better. You don't always see that, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>really admire the work ethic and the will that he's

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<v Speaker 1>put into his time as a Sixer, for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I noticed them when he first arrived, teams

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<v Speaker 1>would hid remember one particular time where they put Kemba

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<v Speaker 1>Walker on him in a playoff series and he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>able to make Kemball Walker pay. Now, if you put

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller guy on him, he makes them pay consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it throughout this series. Game four, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>got a little wonky. There was a lot of help defense,

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<v Speaker 1>Gafford and other guys laying back for him, so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really any single coverage once in beat was out

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, but pretty much throughout the whole series

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<v Speaker 1>he was able to exploit whatever matchups came against him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he was very good at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I may not trying to rip him when he first arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a totally different player in that way now, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think going forward against the Halts, there's no place

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody to hide because they're gonna have to put

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<v Speaker 1>a real defender on him, and if they can, if

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<v Speaker 1>they think they can stick Trey Young on him, or

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna score fifty, like that's not going to happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>While the previous twenty nineteen version, maybe he would have

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<v Speaker 1>settled for shots and allowed the team to get away

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<v Speaker 1>with putting a little guy on him. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to put Hunter, like a real defender on him or there,

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<v Speaker 1>or he's gonna score forty fifty points. We saw thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that thirty seven could have been more, especially

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<v Speaker 1>to Wake games two and three win. He could have

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<v Speaker 1>scored forty fifty in some of those games. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he'll still do that if they don't guard him correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's very different than when he first arrived. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk around a lot of people. The buzzword with

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<v Speaker 1>Tobias this year has been decisive, more decisive. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>that Doc has talked about one and to be more

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<v Speaker 1>decisive and how that's helped unlock his game. I also

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<v Speaker 1>think he's been more physical. To build on your point,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's not afraid to take the smaller guards down

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<v Speaker 1>to the block and impose his physical will on them

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<v Speaker 1>down there, just as ready as he is to pull

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<v Speaker 1>up for a jumper at the elbow or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah. The one other thing is I

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<v Speaker 1>like that he would been such a willing shooter from

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<v Speaker 1>three At times. I thought there was times where like,

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<v Speaker 1>why aren't you taking that shot? Let it fly? Who

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<v Speaker 1>cares if you miss because now if they come out

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<v Speaker 1>on you, he can just do so many things. He

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<v Speaker 1>can score all three levels. So it's like, don't not

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<v Speaker 1>take those three because you can score from out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you can score from the midras, you can score at

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<v Speaker 1>the basket. I think he's showing all three levels and

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<v Speaker 1>that has to be tough. And that's versus Randall. If

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<v Speaker 1>anybody watched it of that Nick series, he became a

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<v Speaker 1>very one dimensional pound of ball. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do type score. You mentioned decisive. He's

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<v Speaker 1>been extremely decisive at all three levels. He's a tough

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<v Speaker 1>cover now, decisiveness, aggression, and we haven't even talked about defense.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be the place that he's I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that where he's improved the most because of

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<v Speaker 1>how much he's improved offensively, but it's meaningful improvement on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive end. Tobias Harris is not a liability on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not someone you have to hide on defense. He's

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<v Speaker 1>someone that takes pride in his matchups and that's something Again,

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<v Speaker 1>he expressed that he wanted to become a better defender,

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<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to be relied upon on the defensive end,

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<v Speaker 1>and now he's doing it game after game after game,

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<v Speaker 1>and adding defense to your game is a difficult thing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. So the fact that he's really put in

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<v Speaker 1>the work his teammates set it back in training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tobias is often out there running with cones making

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<v Speaker 1>sure he can figure out defensive opportunities in the extra time. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and scorers like to put in work scoring. Tobias Harris

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<v Speaker 1>clearly putting in work scoring, putting in work defending, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're seeing the rewards of his hard work. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. For me, there was a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder factor about Tobias coming to this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how he's going to respond to how things went

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<v Speaker 1>in the bubble. He to me for me, took care

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<v Speaker 1>of that within like the first month and half of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. I wonder how much of the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>good we saw would translate into the playoffs. Took care

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<v Speaker 1>that this round. I think that Tobias has earned the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of the doubt. I think he has proven that

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<v Speaker 1>he can a score and volumes scoring a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. Like we talked about, better defender, and he

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<v Speaker 1>can be that option in crunch time if the Sixers

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<v Speaker 1>need someone, especially now we don't know how long Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be out for. There were so many good performances

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<v Speaker 1>in this series, and the Sixers frankly were just better

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<v Speaker 1>than the Wizards and Edition and everything else. But they

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<v Speaker 1>had to go play like they were better and show it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just saw it, and he just was just

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<v Speaker 1>better than everybody on that team. As great as Bill was,

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<v Speaker 1>he gives you nothing on the defensive end, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>like just absolutely nothing. He gives you something on both things.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fantastic. We are taping this Tyrone before your

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday edition of Mike's Show nineteen ten eleven. Two block

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<v Speaker 1>shots for Benjamin. What type of feedback do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin will get over the next forty eight seventy two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably gonna be unfair whatever it is likely. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to say, it's probably going to be unfair because

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<v Speaker 1>he Oh, the foul shots are a huge thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>hacka been. Oh, he's killing them. Then they tried in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, which was just cowardly, by the way,

0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:00.319
<v Speaker 1>cowardly effort by Scott Brooks. I would respect what first

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<v Speaker 1>half come on anyway, he makes two ons and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, your genius strategy falls apart. But

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<v Speaker 1>the guy, it was fantastic. We know the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't do, and people are always going to

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<v Speaker 1>harp on that. I can't harp on that every single day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go crazy thinking about one particular thing every single

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<v Speaker 1>day year round. But if you could just get past

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<v Speaker 1>that plea, he was incredible. He was incredible lest Furst

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<v Speaker 1>of all one of the biggest to quote. The only

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<v Speaker 1>flaw in his game defensively, people to say at times

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<v Speaker 1>was rim protection. He was excellent at the rim from

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the third quarter through the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the game. I think he just had to get

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable because he hasn't had to do it that much

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<v Speaker 1>because usually it's the big man and Dwhite Howard back there.

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<v Speaker 1>He was excellent at the rim. He's excellent roaming, he

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<v Speaker 1>was excellent doing he was aggressive. Was Another big moment

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<v Speaker 1>was that he recognized as a smaller guy. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>been at times where he would give the ball up,

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<v Speaker 1>not last night, puts his shoulder into his chest, goes

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<v Speaker 1>right to the basket. It's a smaller guy. He sees

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger guy. He's quicker. He goes right around him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was doing everything that we've been asking, so we

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<v Speaker 1>should at least have a twenty four to four, eight

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<v Speaker 1>to seventy two hours more. Tore him on ripping the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, wait until he plays another basketball game, because

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<v Speaker 1>he was fantastic into one last night, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be worried about what happened before. He was

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<v Speaker 1>great last night. Give the guy a little bit of credit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying forever if he has a bad game

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<v Speaker 1>any no one's above scrutiny, But goodness gracious, he was

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<v Speaker 1>great last night on both ends. Let's just give the

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<v Speaker 1>guy a clap, and let's wait for Atlanta and then

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<v Speaker 1>decide if we're gonna be mad again. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to add Tyrone. I think though, that Sixers fans,

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia fans are very very passionate, and if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pick him apart for what he did in game four,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm asking is you bring that same energy to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate him in game five. Just match your energy. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be mad, please now celebrate him. Five for

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<v Speaker 1>eight from the line. Dwight Howard also eight for ten

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<v Speaker 1>from the line, talk about sort of fixing what people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about. But Ben is also paying attention. And

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<v Speaker 1>Ben posted on Instagram last night and his quote was,

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<v Speaker 1>they love me, they love me, they love me, they

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<v Speaker 1>let me not. And I loved that from Ben because

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<v Speaker 1>he's listening, he hears you, and he's proving you wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not afraid to gloat afterwards. And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the type of energy you want from your athletes. He's

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<v Speaker 1>engaged with this community. He wants to do right by

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<v Speaker 1>this community, and now it's time for the community to

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<v Speaker 1>do right by him. And I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in game one of Round two, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be really nice if everybody could just

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate Ben for what he was able to do last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wonderful. He's been great all series, great all playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>And another thing that post does is there are fans

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes to feel like they can't wrap their arms around

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<v Speaker 1>him because his personality is just playing different than Joel

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<v Speaker 1>Eb's personality. He was just born different. Every all three

0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.800
<v Speaker 1>personalities are all different too. It's not necessarily a bad thing,

0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.200
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes fans feel like they can't get to know him. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's showing some personality right there. Now, Hey, hey you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta if you gotta take those lumps you've got. People

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<v Speaker 1>were trick to kill a guy because he missed a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of foul shots in a game they barely lost.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, somebody that same manage you should have to

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<v Speaker 1>accept somebody say managey. But I'd like the human fact

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<v Speaker 1>whenever a player shows who they are. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. And it's just I think that there

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<v Speaker 1>are just times where we might go too far. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>we're passionate, but let's not partenend like the guys not

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<v Speaker 1>excellent at basketball. We know what he does and doesn't do,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, no, we know what he doesn't do, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't ever spend enough time talking about what he

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<v Speaker 1>does do. I should say there are a couple instances

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<v Speaker 1>that stand out to me the most about when this

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<v Speaker 1>happened that Ben was able to tune out noise and respond.

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<v Speaker 1>One was in the middle of March or earlier, when

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of talk swirling, tune that out,

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<v Speaker 1>went about his business and it came back after game

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<v Speaker 1>four he said, I'll be all right, came out and

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<v Speaker 1>did his thing. So so I agree, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>fair treatment criticism praise is certainly a valid thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>get back to it. As far as big takeaways from

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<v Speaker 1>this series for me, I thought to Bias his general

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<v Speaker 1>steadiness was one the other. And I'm gonna go inside

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<v Speaker 1>my psyche. I know no one really cares, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know Joel and Bie got hurt in Game four. I

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.600
<v Speaker 1>know the Sixers lost Game four in the series came back,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was okay going to bed that night because

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<v Speaker 1>I saw number zero nearly helped the seventy Sixers steal

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<v Speaker 1>the game and end the series. And four and then

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrese Maxie comes back in game five and electrifies the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>They said it it was amazing. The intensity was great,

0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.000
<v Speaker 1>The fans were amazing. You know, it was cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see the chess mask, like I talked about the other

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<v Speaker 1>day of you know the coaches, different coaches pass and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very fun. You gotta stay locked in at all times,

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<v Speaker 1>and you gotta stay focused in. You know, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait from a round two great offensively love it. His

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<v Speaker 1>tenacity on the defensive end and willingness to get after it,

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<v Speaker 1>I love just as much. I think for me, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we see more of Tyrese Maxie hopefully continues to

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<v Speaker 1>earn his minutes but if the best we see was

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<v Speaker 1>what he did in these last two games in the

0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.400
<v Speaker 1>first round, for me, that fills me with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of hope of what's to come. Oh oh absolutely. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I remember, I remember during draft night as

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<v Speaker 1>the as it comes down, because he was not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be there at twenty one. I remember the Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Heat had the twentieth overall pick, and I have to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, I was one hundred percent sure they were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take him, and I was gonna be upset, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, he's gonna help them, and now what's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and blah blah blah. And then instead day

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<v Speaker 1>don't take him, and then the Sixers get him, and

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<v Speaker 1>he starts off the regular season really well. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>goes into a rookie low. I think playing so many

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<v Speaker 1>games with such a short amount of time was probably

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<v Speaker 1>tough on him physically in addition to mentally. He's so positive,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had to get tired along the way. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like he's got that second wind. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like he's not a rookie anymore. Westbrook had absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>hope of staying in front of him, So then they

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<v Speaker 1>switched to it's Smith and if Smith had no hope

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<v Speaker 1>of stayed in from him, and then they switched to

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Nettle and Netto had no hope of stayed in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him. I think they're gonna see him more in

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<v Speaker 1>the second round, and I honestly don't think the Hawks

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<v Speaker 1>have anybody who can stay in front of him either. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna be the single hand reason why they

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<v Speaker 1>win a series? Probably not yet, But I really feel

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<v Speaker 1>I think that his time actually is now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to see more from him. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was so good, and there was a stretch there where

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<v Speaker 1>him taking it to the basket and contributed. He had

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<v Speaker 1>like nine shots up in nine minutes. He needed to

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<v Speaker 1>go get his off the bitch at one point, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love to see it because he wasn't afraid at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. Those are the things you were about with

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. He wasn't afraid at the moment. He was aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>he was effective, and he didn't try to do too much,

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<v Speaker 1>no crazy turnovers. Like I have nothing nuggets him to

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<v Speaker 1>say about the kid, and I honestly think he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to help him more this season. I think that speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to the environment also that he's in right now too.

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<v Speaker 1>There might be some rookies to come in who had

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<v Speaker 1>high hopes of going in the lottery, and if they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>they get disappointed and they're like, I'm on a playoff

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<v Speaker 1>team or contending team and I might not get my minutes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he took that situation and he was ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>final couple of weeks of the regular season. Scott the

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<v Speaker 1>gears turning of Doc and the coaching staff clearly, and

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<v Speaker 1>he made the most of it when the minute presented themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And here he is in a key spot. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like the veterans, I know, line that you're in those

0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:09.040
<v Speaker 1>zooms and you're talking to everyone in the team. The veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they surrounded him in a good place

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<v Speaker 1>to just focus on the task at hand, talked him

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<v Speaker 1>up throughout the year, and kept him perhaps mentally ready

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<v Speaker 1>as much as anything else. Yeah. Earlier in the series,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyree said that when he was little, his dad told

0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 1>him that proper performance prevents wait, proper preparation prevents poor performance.

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew I was going to get it wrong at

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<v Speaker 1>some point. I got that tongue twister right too many times.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm paying for it. Tyrese has been preparing

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes all season long, and he didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>get the regular preparation that a rookie would get, especially

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.840
<v Speaker 1>coming into a really good team. He didn't get Summer League,

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 1>he didn't get a traditional training camp. He didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to come to Philadelphia and work with a player development

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<v Speaker 1>coach and acclimate to the city and then meet his

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<v Speaker 1>teammates one by one as rookies usually do. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it with Seth Curry. It's tough to be on

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<v Speaker 1>a team with Joel Embid, Ben Simmins, Tobias Harris playing

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<v Speaker 1>ahead abuse. Tyrese is someone that's way farther down on

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<v Speaker 1>the depth chart than Seth Korea is and has been

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<v Speaker 1>all season long, and even so he's found a way

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<v Speaker 1>to make an impact over and over again. He's come

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<v Speaker 1>into the rotation, out of the rotation, back into the

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.720
<v Speaker 1>rotation better than he was before he fell out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's also worth celebrating, because it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>improve when you're not getting those minutes. Selton I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this a lot tyrone, but when you're a rookie

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and you come into a really good team, it's difficult

0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>to get minutes. You don't get to take risks. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw it with Matisse Thyble last year. We've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>with Tyrese this year. Mistakes you have to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>them if you're a rookie on a bad team. Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Young benefited from this early in his career. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to go out there and make mistakes and figure it out.

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Tyrese was not given that privilege, and he's still figured

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And I think that's really worth celebrating. And

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<v Speaker 1>now we're getting to do it, and the city is

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<v Speaker 1>rallying behind him. I'm not surprised after watching him all

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<v Speaker 1>season to see how well he's performing in this playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's really exciting, and again we're celebrating.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned, Lauren, the Atlanta Hawks, the adjustment. You see

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.359
<v Speaker 1>they come one o'clock Sunday afternoon. We know that at

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<v Speaker 1>the center round two Underway. I gotta be honest, I was.

0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I felt for the great Lloyd Pierce. I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was a good hire at that point in time for

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta didn't work out. And today McMillan's credit man the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>They were the third best team in the NBA since

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<v Speaker 1>his hiring Tyrone. What do you think are well, we

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<v Speaker 1>certainly know one of them. But as you take the

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<v Speaker 1>holistic look at the Atlanta Hawks, what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the big challenges they present in your mind? The number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing for me that comes right to mind is

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<v Speaker 1>running guys off that three point line. I understand that

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you may or may not have Joellambat. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to speculate on what his status might be, but one

0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>thing we do know is those guys want to fire threes,

0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're much more effective out there than Washington is overall.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have to go into the steers with

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<v Speaker 1>the approach if we'll have to accept guys making some twos,

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<v Speaker 1>some tough twos at times, some scrambles, but run guys

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<v Speaker 1>off the three point line. And I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>do that now you can create problems for them on

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<v Speaker 1>the other end, because while their defensive profile has improved

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 1>great under McMillan, I don't see personnel that's built to

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 1>slow this team down. They'll have a good scheme, a

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.800
<v Speaker 1>better scheme, much better scheme than Washington had, and better

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>personnel overall than Washington has. But I think that if

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:13.200
<v Speaker 1>you can run them off the three point line and

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>make them uncomfortable. You then can then score on them

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 1>and get more easy baskets. On the other end, if

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>they're comfortable and they're able to take easy three pointers,

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.119
<v Speaker 1>now it becomes a more uphill battle. Then Nicks ran

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<v Speaker 1>into that a couple of times in that series, where

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<v Speaker 1>they might they're playing tough defense, they're playing scrapping. Those

0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>guys make shots and then oh no, they have no

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<v Speaker 1>way of coming back. Obviously the Sixers are better equipped

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to do that. But running those guys and not letting

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<v Speaker 1>any of them, including the one who takes the fifty footers,

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>keep those guys from being comfortable at the three point line,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, is the first thing that comes to mind

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<v Speaker 1>in that series. If they do that, it's much easier

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<v Speaker 1>than if they can't do that. Looking at their personnel, right,

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>they have a handful of three point shooters that are

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<v Speaker 1>above thirty seven and a half percent. Bogdanovitch obviously jumps out.

0:24:56.000 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Lewis shot the ball great since he's gotten there. Tony Snell,

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>we saw a couple of times when he played the

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Sixers this year go off. But the thing about Trey

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>is he's not afraid to launch from anywhere, So I

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>don't really care what his percentages. You know, he can

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<v Speaker 1>change the game if he gets hot, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>you can't let him get hot. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing, and I'm with you, Tyrone. I take,

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<v Speaker 1>especially at this stage, a very zen approach when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to guys who are in or out, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>either gonna happen or it's not. It's outside of my control.

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I can't get my energy wrapped up in it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the presence of Capella obviously changes whether or not

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Joe is in there or not. If Joe's in there,

0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Cappella not particularly concerned. I think that Joe's certainly acquitted

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.200
<v Speaker 1>himself pretty well against him in the past. But if

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Joe's not there, then I think that's that presents a

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<v Speaker 1>decision for Doc to make as far as how he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work that five spot and that sort of thing. Yeah,

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 1>because then it changes to a dribble penetration situation where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Capella's points they don't throw to him

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<v Speaker 1>into post and he goes to work. That's not what

0:25:59.240 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 1>he does guards penetrate. It is a skill to find

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<v Speaker 1>the right spot and play with energy and all those

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of things would indeed there, and b could really

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.360
<v Speaker 1>shut a lot of that down if he doesn't, if

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>indeed is not there, then it is tougher than to

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<v Speaker 1>stop some of that stuff that they do if they

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<v Speaker 1>are able to run guys off the three point line.

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>That druple penetration leads to a lot of his baskets,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's very effective there. He's a guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>literally shoot ten for ten in the game because all

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the shots are within two feet, none of them are difficult,

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>and then he'll grab ten fifteen rebounds to go with

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<v Speaker 1>it without calling a single play for him. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in that way, you're absolutely right, Lauren. Anyone who you

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<v Speaker 1>have your eye on sixer side that you felt we

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<v Speaker 1>saw some flashes of things in the first round that

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<v Speaker 1>you could see building on that in the second round, Yes,

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you'll be unsurprised to hear that. My answer is yes.

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about fir Con Korkmas for a second.

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 1>He didn't figure super heavily into the first couple of games.

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>And this is a guy who went hot so dangerous

0:26:57.680 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>you can always have to account for him on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor or a defense to see him come into Game

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:04.719
<v Speaker 1>four and along with Tyrese Maxie keep the team in

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>a very difficult situation. The two of them or what

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>was really driving that fourth quarter. Furkon had all seven

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of his points in the fourth quarter in Game four

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and then in Game five to come in and score

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<v Speaker 1>ten points, four for eight from the field, two for

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>five from three and two for five from three. That's

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 1>fine if you're Furkon, because they have to guard him

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.199
<v Speaker 1>on all five and I think that a lot of

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the times more than two of them fall when you're

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<v Speaker 1>a firkn Cork must so look to me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how heavily he figures into the upcoming series, but

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>he's someone that can be relied upon, like Tyrese Maxie,

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 1>will come in and rise to the occasion. I loved

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing him close this series the way that he did.

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Doc Rivers often says that when Furkon's shots are falling,

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>when Furkon is playing well, it usually means that the

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:43.719
<v Speaker 1>rest of the team is playing well too. So if

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>you're using Furkon is sort of a litmus test, especially

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be shorthanded. To see him finish

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>this series successfully again, not sure how heavily he's going

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>to play in not sure how many minutes he's going

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>to get, but when he gets them, he's going to

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>capitalize on them. And I've really enjoyed seeing him succeed

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>in this situation. Selts, I know you're also a big

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>for Concork Mods guy. He's just a good human as well,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and so you got a root for those good humans.

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I think he at least he gave some good energy,

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>especially in game four he and Tyres Maxie almost help

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>the Sixers steal it. I think, yeah, I think it would.

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.439
<v Speaker 1>It would certainly help if fir can build off what

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we saw the last two games, because as Doc said,

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>he feels like the Sixers could need him at some point.

0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we rap with this? Obviously time and I

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>think that when you have someone like Trey Young on

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 1>the opposite side, if you're you're following the Sixers, your

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 1>first thought is, well, we've got Ben Simmons and you

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 1>can just go after that and try and shut Trey down.

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how do you think Doc might approached

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that matchup. It's obviously gonna be one of the key

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>matchups of the series because there are some guys, whether

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>it's DeAndre Hunter or John Collins, who who have some

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>size and athleticism, who could get inside a little bit.

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'll be curious to see how much time Ben

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>spends on Trey and maybe most of all, what stage

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of the game they put him on Trey. Yeah, that's

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting. And also to kind of go hand

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in hand with the courtmask thing is stible because if

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like if you combine them, you would get

0:29:05.120 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the greatest player to ever live, because you'd have somebody

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>who can really really make shots and somebody who can

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 1>really really defend. If if I'm not hoping, if Joel

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and Beat is out he went with Thible as a

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>starter in Gay five, does he stick with that? And

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>then it's very simple Thible, you're guarding Young pretty much

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>every possession, and if you get in foul trouble, then

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>we can go, we can try something different coming off

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>the bench. That's the part the player who I think

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>would be the biggest wildcard who may end up spending

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of important minutes on him because he's long enough,

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>he can get the trail block, he's quick enough, and

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>he's he does still doesn't get all the calls that

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>he probably should as an elite defender, but he gets

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot more than he didn't as a rookie, so

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.720
<v Speaker 1>he might be able to play just physical enough to

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>make the catches for him a little bit easier, to

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>fight over that screens and stay with it and just

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 1>make those shots from a guy who, like you said,

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>who can blow the game apart, just make it a

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit tougher for him. So that's one thing I'm

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>really looking for. If Joel and beat he played alf

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>duel Abat is there, like we all hope, now, he

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>could come in and he can really play loose with

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 1>his foules and play really overplay him at times, and

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I think making him uncomfortable, something that Knicks did for

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>exactly zero seconds of this series, could be just huge.

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>And he's probably the best player equipped in the whole

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>league perhaps to do that and not have the offensive

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>responsibilities that Ben Simmons obviously has. Yeah, it's a really

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 1>really good point, and I think that Matise spending as

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 1>much time as he's had to on Bradley Beale over

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the last few days is going to prove really formative.

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>He said after the game last night that guarding Beale

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>taught him a lot it was a crash course in guarding.

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>He called Bradley Beale one of the greatest scorers in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I agree. So having that experience and now

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<v Speaker 1>going to one of the other Trey Young is also

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest scorers in this game. But younger,

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<v Speaker 1>a little less experienced, a little less likely to get

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<v Speaker 1>into Matis's head the way that Bradley Beale was because

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Beale, Matise said, was able to start anticipating him,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're just anticipating each other and it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>this just weird back and forth. And Matisse got some

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<v Speaker 1>of his, but Bradley Beale got a lot his. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that Trey Young could read defenders the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Bradley Beale can. So Matisse had some good warm

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<v Speaker 1>up reps in this first set, his hands might be

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<v Speaker 1>even more full. Like you said, if there's no Joel,

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<v Speaker 1>does he just come in and your job is to

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<v Speaker 1>just run with Trey best of luck, please slow him down.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. If anyone is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>forced to go run in there, use your motor use

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<v Speaker 1>your athleticism, and use your skills. It's a good series

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<v Speaker 1>to have. Matisse's Bible on your side. I'm right. I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe I could use Thursday off and after that

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<v Speaker 1>we can start game one of the series Friday. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just intrigued, excited, curious. I want to see how it starts.

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<v Speaker 1>The Yeah, now we gotta wait a while. Yeah Nowaday,

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<v Speaker 1>now we gotta wait. At least it's one o'clock bin

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<v Speaker 1>zone and when some of your bigger players might need

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of rest. And it's sure, sure, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a certain big man they say you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use rest and rehab. Perhaps the extra couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>of rest of rehab could work out well for the sixes.

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<v Speaker 1>One might say, that's a great theory that I would

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<v Speaker 1>I would be willing to subscribe to. All Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>see Tyrone. You hear Tyrone just about everywhere this time

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<v Speaker 1>of year during six or season. Thank you man so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Really appreciate it. No, I'm thrilled, thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. I appreciate it. As far as what you

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<v Speaker 1>again to Tie Johnson, Thank you to Lauren Rosen. Thanks

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