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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, October tenth, twenty twenty three. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me and your man,

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Speaker 1: MG Marcus Grant joined by Michael f Florio. We got

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Speaker 1: a fun one for you today, folks. We are hitting

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Speaker 1: up the fan mail bag to answer some of your

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Speaker 1: biggest questions after week five plus, our pal Matt Ocatta

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Speaker 1: is dropping by with his top waiver wire targets. Let's

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Speaker 1: get started the questions you sent us on social media.

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Speaker 1: You can always hit us up at NFL Fantasy. This

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Speaker 1: first one coming from Brandon had an owner drop George Pickens.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming gonna need to pick him up. I have

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Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, Garrett Wilson, and Jordan Addison. That's a flex.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to drop any of those, like you

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Speaker 2: need to pick up Pickens, but I would not want

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Speaker 2: to drop any of those three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I would see if there's like a running back

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Speaker 1: or are you carrying a second quarterback or tight end,

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Speaker 1: there's somebody you should drop because you have to get Pickens.

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Speaker 1: But I wouldn't drop those guys either. Next one from

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Speaker 1: Dapper Dan, what do you think of Jonathan Taylor with

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss in form.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of what we spoke about already. I think

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Speaker 2: he's going to get more work, which makes them both

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Speaker 2: kind of low floor, high upside RB two or flex options,

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Speaker 2: and eventually Jonathan Taylor will.

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Speaker 1: Fully take over. He will take over that number one role.

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Speaker 1: So if you have n't be patient. I know this

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Speaker 1: week was probably not what you wanted it to be,

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Speaker 1: but you know, he's Jonathan Taylor. He's he's a more

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Speaker 1: talented back, and they paid him. They're going to give

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Speaker 1: him more opportunities. This one from Jason, is it time

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Speaker 1: to drop Dalvin Cook? Yes? Next question unless you disagree.

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Speaker 2: No, it was time weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, Next question? This one from Chandler. How do

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Speaker 1: y'all fully feel about the Texans receivers, more specifically Nico Collins.

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Speaker 1: It's been up and down in fantasy so far, and

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Speaker 1: I've been debating about using him to trade up for someone.

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Speaker 2: Good question here, if you can trade Nico Collins for

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Speaker 2: someone that you feel better about, I am fine doing,

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Speaker 2: but I think Tank Dell and Nico Collins have both

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Speaker 2: kind of shown there's gonna be variants because they're wide

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Speaker 2: receivers and they have a rookie quarterback, and they're very

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Speaker 2: young themselves, but the upside is so high that I

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Speaker 2: think it's hard to get away from most weeks, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it is, and I think in a lot of respects,

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins has already outperformed expectations. I mean there will

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Speaker 1: be ebbs and flows, there will be highs and lows.

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Speaker 1: But look, if you feel like you can upgrade at

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Speaker 1: the position, by all means, absolutely go out and do that.

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Speaker 1: But I still like Nico Collins, I like Tank Dell.

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Speaker 1: They just they have blown our minds with what they

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Speaker 1: can do, what they have done so far. So if

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Speaker 1: they have some some down weeks, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: part of the game. At this point, Edward wants to

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Speaker 1: know should I trade Pooka Nakua for Cooper Cup. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you can sure, yeah.

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Speaker 2: You that first wide receiver could be almost any wide

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Speaker 2: receiver in the game, And if it was for a

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Speaker 2: healthy Cooper Cup, I would say yes, because Cooper Cup

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Speaker 2: is the best wide receiver in football when he is healthy,

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Speaker 2: or at least in fantasy football, went healthy and first

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Speaker 2: game back he did what he did yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I think he's only going to keep getting better. Oh

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Speaker 1: so you're sort of asking, right now, should I trade

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Speaker 1: these two twenties for a fifty? Right? We're like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: getting a fifty, that's great. But even if you don't,

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Speaker 1: you still got two twenty. He's like, that's not bad. So,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, if you can make the move, make the move.

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Speaker 1: But even if you don't, you're still fine with Puka Nukua.

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Speaker 1: Last one, this one from Sean. How do y'all feel

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Speaker 1: about Calvin Ridley?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I have mixed emotions here, how do you feel?

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Speaker 2: I have mixed emotions, but overall I feel good about

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley. At least seven targets in four of the

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Speaker 2: five games. I know he's been up and down, but

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Speaker 2: we have to remember that he's coming off of a

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Speaker 2: I think a little bit of inconsistency early on was expected.

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Speaker 2: I think you just start Calvin Ridley and Christian Kirk

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Speaker 1: That's the thing. One, there's a long layoff. Two And

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Speaker 1: I think I said this last week on this show.

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Speaker 1: mout feed in that offense. Christian Kirk. Still there is

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Speaker 1: Zay Jones is back from an injury. Evan Ingram is there,

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Speaker 1: Travis etn saw targets. There are a lot of places

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Speaker 1: to go with the football, so there are going to

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Speaker 1: be some down weeks. Hopefully. What we saw last week

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Speaker 1: the arrow's pointing up for Calvin Ridley, but it may

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a roller coaster than

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Speaker 1: we anticipated coming into the season. You probably need help

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Speaker 1: on your roster, most of us do. That's why we've

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Speaker 1: got the waiver wire. We're gonna come back and talk

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Speaker 1: to Matt o'conna about some of his waiver wire picks.

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Speaker 1: As we keep going here on the NFL Fantasy Football Show,

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Speaker 1: Let's get some of the top waiver wire targets for

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Speaker 1: this week are pal Matt o'conna's put together the list

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Speaker 1: you should pay attention to. And I had quarterback Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford danger Russ Wilson. You know, le Broncos stink overall,

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Speaker 1: but it's not Russ's fault at least not totally. Sam

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Speaker 1: Hallell coming off a huge game where he dropped back

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Speaker 1: fifty five straight times from the middle of the second

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Speaker 1: quarter to the end. Minshew the stash is back in

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Speaker 1: our life because of Anthony Richardson's injury over to running

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Speaker 1: back Julia McLoughlin, who's looking very good for the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Ti J Spears getting a bigger role there in Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Amari de Mercado keep an eye on James Connor's injury

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Speaker 1: after he had to leave the game on Sunday. Chewba

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Speaker 1: Hubbard starting to get more work in Carolina, Jalen Warren,

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Speaker 1: who's outscored Najie Harris pretty much every week, and a

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Speaker 1: couple of rbs in Chicago. Roshawan Johnson is there along

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Speaker 1: with Deontay Foreman. Wide receiver Josh Downs had a big

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Curtis Samuel get more work in Washington,

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Speaker 1: Rashee Rice. The wheel of Chiefs wide receivers continues to spin.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's sort of landed on Rice last week.

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Speaker 1: kJ Osborne getting opportunity there in Minnesota, especially if Justin

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Speaker 1: Jefferson has a wonky hamstring. Logan Thomas getting targets in Washington,

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Speaker 1: and John new Smith, who is the official tight end

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Speaker 1: one in Atlanta. Yeah, I know, kylep has had a

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Speaker 1: nice game, but it was still John new Smith's team.

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Speaker 1: There local welcome in ourpal matt Ocatta. You can find

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Speaker 1: his waiver wireless on NFL dot Com at nfl dot

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Speaker 1: com slash waiver wire. Matt, Good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Start with the fact that we got two teams on

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Speaker 1: a bye this week. The Packers and the Steelers get

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Speaker 1: the week off, so that means we got to go

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Speaker 1: to the waiver wire. Maybe not as dire this week

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Speaker 1: as in some weeks, but let's start with the guy

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Speaker 1: who plays his home games about a three iron, probably

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Speaker 1: about a three would maybe, I don't know. I suck

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Speaker 1: at golf. I suck at golf anyway, who plays a

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Speaker 1: short distance from where we are currently sitting at Sofi Stadium,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, who's been playing really well and now he's

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Speaker 1: got his favoritest target in the whole world back in

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. It seems like the arrow is pointing up

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is. And for the record, I

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Speaker 3: think it would take three drivers for me to get

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Speaker 3: so I'm worse than golf that you. But yeah, listen,

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Speaker 3: if you look at this box score, especially the fantasy

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Speaker 3: box score for Stafford, doesn't look that great this season.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't top seventeen fantasy points yet in a game

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Speaker 3: he only has five passing touchdowns. Don't be deceived. He

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Speaker 3: is fourth in the NFL. In and lo and behold

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Speaker 3: the first game that, like you say, Cooper Cup his

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Speaker 3: favorite target his podcast and Breakfast Buddy returns to the lineup.

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Speaker 3: He Stafford has his best fantasy day of the year

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Speaker 3: against the Eagles d spoiler alert, the Cardinals are not

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Speaker 3: the Eagles and that's who he gets next week. They

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Speaker 3: just fixed Joe Burrow in the Bengals offense. I think

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Speaker 3: he is the top streamer for Week six and with

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Speaker 3: this receiving corps now at his disposal, Cup Pooka to

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Speaker 3: too Higbee. I think he has every week QB one

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Speaker 3: upside rest of season.

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Speaker 1: I love that Colin.

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you what clubs I would need to

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Speaker 2: a putter, that's it. I know you have Jalil McLaughlan

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Speaker 2: on your waiver wire list as well. Short week against

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs this week, but maybe Javance Williams is coming back.

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Speaker 2: Does that that does that scare you off at all?

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Speaker 3: It affects how much I'm willing to invest in Jaliel.

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Speaker 3: Last week I said to pick him up, leave him

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Speaker 3: on your bench against the Jets daunting front, and then

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Speaker 3: he scraped together eighteen Fantasy points against that defense. That's

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Speaker 3: a sign of how well he's playing. So I think

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Speaker 3: that even if Javonte returns, which get on a short

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Speaker 3: he still is worth a pickup if you need some

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Speaker 3: the first five weeks. The last undrafted rookie which djalil

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Speaker 3: when he finishes the RB seven in fantasy. And also

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Speaker 3: McLoughlin just looks really good on tape, dynamic as heck,

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Speaker 3: averaging seven point one yards per touch that is elite

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Speaker 3: the Broncos should and probably will, rush Javonte Williams back,

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Speaker 3: And even when he comes back, I don't think he

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Speaker 3: gives Jaliel the opportunity to keep flashing his talent. For me,

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Speaker 3: this is a case of get the talent on your roster,

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Speaker 1: I know Adam Rank has made the point that watching

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Speaker 1: McLoughlin reminds him of when Austin Eckler first came to

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Speaker 1: prominence and he eventually took over that role from Melvin Gordon.

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Speaker 1: And the more I watch it, the more I think

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Speaker 1: Rank is really onto something there in that offense there

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Speaker 1: for Denver Hi praise more running backs to talk about

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. It's a rough time because pretty much all

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Speaker 1: their running backs got hurt. They're trying to find some

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Speaker 1: guys off the street just to plug in and have

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Speaker 1: bodies there. Roshan Johnson at least as of us recording

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Speaker 1: this right now. In concussion Protocol, Deonta Foreman was a

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Speaker 1: healthy scratch. But it seems like it's worth making a

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Speaker 1: play for at least one of those guys this week, right, Matt, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it is. Khalil Herbert seems like the one that's

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Speaker 3: end up on ir with his ankle injury, and Roshan

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Speaker 3: Johnson did leave the game in concussion protocol, but that

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Speaker 3: was last Thursday. I think we can probably have some

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Speaker 3: optimism that he will be cleared by week six, and

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Speaker 3: he's looked very good in limited opportunities playing behind Herbert,

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Speaker 3: and if he is healthy, I think he will be

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Speaker 3: the one A in this run first attack. Most likely

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Speaker 3: healthy scratch previously Deontay Foreman will be the one B.

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Speaker 3: But I prefer Johnson by quite a lot. He has

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Speaker 3: averaged four point nine yards per carry this season, He's

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Speaker 3: caught eleven of twelve targets as a receiver. And whoever

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually had Michael Pittman Junior as the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Because that's how it seems to go with Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: Rice and Kadarius Tony are just the appointing Spider Man

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Speaker 2: Oh Katta, you also have Logan Thomas this week as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was honestly a wild week for fantasy tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 3: He's posted seven plus Fantasy points in every game he's played,

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Speaker 3: Thomas is one of six tight ends with eighteen plus

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Speaker 1: Off Man, they're spreading the ball around a lot too

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Speaker 1: in Washington, Man, come on, guys to stash one. Taj

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Speaker 1: Spears the guy that I liked coming into the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same thing here, and I also stash my way

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Speaker 3: in a bunch of dynasty leagues. Taija Spears looks really good.

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Speaker 3: He had sixteen point nine Fantasy points on Sunday and

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Speaker 3: But might he be flexible with this kind of output,

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Speaker 2: I'd add him and Jalen Warren has now outscored Naji

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Speaker 2: in almost half of league's I don't understand how the

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Speaker 2: But what do you think, Okata?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, check your waiver wire. Like you said, available in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully they figure it out. Hopefully they figure it

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Speaker 1: work things out, so we'll see what happens there. For

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Speaker 1: more Waiver Wire goodness, be sure to follow Matt Ocatta

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