WEBVTT - Daniel Murphy joins Mets'd Up

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<v Speaker 1>What is up?

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<v Speaker 2>Mets fans, Welcome back to a special episode of the

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<v Speaker 2>metsa Podcast. If you're listening to us, I suggest you

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<v Speaker 2>hop on over to YouTube because you will see we

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<v Speaker 2>are joined by a special guest today, former New York

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<v Speaker 2>Met World Series All NLCS hero Daniel Murphy joins us. Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much, man, appreciate it. How you been.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on doing well? Mark? Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>James you as well. Well. It's Sandlot season and we

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<v Speaker 1>get to start a little earlier down here in Florida

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<v Speaker 1>then in the Northeast, which is why all the lads

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<v Speaker 1>are down in spring training. So we've been bawling. My

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<v Speaker 1>two boys they bowl played baseball ten Noah and then

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<v Speaker 1>seven Drew. And then my daughter's been doing some ice

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<v Speaker 1>skating which keeps us a bit cool. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>got a little one, Jake, who's two years old, and

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<v Speaker 1>he just bosses us around without using much words, like

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<v Speaker 1>a few words as possible. So we're doing good. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for asking. I'm in my wife's her office right

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<v Speaker 1>now that she has for her charity prom series, so

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<v Speaker 1>she let me, she let me steal it to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a lot of fun. What was your

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<v Speaker 3>wife's charity do?

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<v Speaker 1>So its main focus is girls who are in the

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<v Speaker 1>foster care system middle school to high school age, and

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<v Speaker 1>she throws events for him. So the first one was

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<v Speaker 1>in Denver where she brought all the girls who were

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<v Speaker 1>in foster care in, got the wives, girlfriends, and fiancees

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<v Speaker 1>to come and help as well, got prom dresses for them, all,

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<v Speaker 1>got their hair and makeup, done it a suite for

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<v Speaker 1>a ball game. And now she's probably done that, I

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<v Speaker 1>think in maybe fifty like twenty stadiums like an event

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<v Speaker 1>like that where she's been there, and she's been able

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<v Speaker 1>to host an event in every major league stadium like

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<v Speaker 1>it's been she's been really well received. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>baseball and you know the wives of our guys who

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, we leave for the ballpark one o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you kind of can end up having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of free time and something to sink your teeth into.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've really rallied around my wife, Tory and her

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<v Speaker 1>heart for children in the foster care system. So thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for asking.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's awesome to hear. That's that's amazing stuff. To

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<v Speaker 2>switch the conversation a little bit, just to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to baseball now, talk about you. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets. We're gonna talk about twenty twenty five Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think for me and James's lifelong Mets fans,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a few things that we got to know about

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<v Speaker 2>and that we want to ask you specifically about that

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen season. We were texting before we got on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and we were talking about a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the moves that the Mets made this offseason. But during

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fifteen season, the Mets made a particularly big

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<v Speaker 2>move bringing in you an assessments at the trade deadline

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<v Speaker 2>as a player on that team, especially because that season

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<v Speaker 2>was super up and down to begin with, What was

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<v Speaker 2>it like bringing in a guy like Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the roller coaster ride of how we got there,

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of thinking it was Carlos Gomez and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know flow, you know, just revealing that we're human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>He just happened to do it in front of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire city and world to a certain respect. But

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<v Speaker 1>when Yo came in, like he just is also in

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<v Speaker 1>conjunction with getting Kelly Johnson in your rebay, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys came in, but when you came in,

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<v Speaker 1>you could feel like Sandy, you know, just like telling

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<v Speaker 1>the ball color, we're going for it. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>added those other guys as well too, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>was like just to be in the clubhouse and to

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<v Speaker 1>get that confidence from the front office that like we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're in this and we're going to go for it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna we're gonna sacrifice some of ourselves in

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<v Speaker 1>the future, which was I think, Michael foellmore, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, you know, to make a move right now

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<v Speaker 1>to try to win in the present, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was really a huge lift. And then to add in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the guys I talked about like those are

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of those are like sand Lauders, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>know how to ball, and they know how to win

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<v Speaker 1>games and get in position to win games. And I

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<v Speaker 1>learned so much from Kelly Johnson, like I love of

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly and so I had a treat playing with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a wonderful run that we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to go on.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that feeling like in the first half of

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<v Speaker 3>that season when you guys had a veteran team, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of talent. You guys probably knew that you should

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<v Speaker 3>have been playing better, but we weren't playing up to

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<v Speaker 3>your own standards. How do you stay motivated? And what

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like if there was one a galvanizing

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<v Speaker 3>moment during that first half that kept everyone locked in

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<v Speaker 3>with the goal in mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think looking back on it, we made a

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<v Speaker 1>really I think we had like we go like eleven

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<v Speaker 1>and like we won like eleven in a row or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was like we just kind of came

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<v Speaker 1>out of the gates really hot. And I think selfishly,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I wasn't playing very good. I was pumped

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<v Speaker 1>we were winning, and I feel like I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>some things to help us win. But like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I was playing nearly as well as I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were. But no, we were winning, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the best part. We kind of rode that eleven game

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<v Speaker 1>winning streak in some of those ups and downs and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of were able to cling to that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>also you could say maybe at the same time that

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<v Speaker 1>the Nationals were under performing to what they thought were

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<v Speaker 1>going to do for their standards, So you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just remained in it the whole year, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>would have felt like we were kind of trying to

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<v Speaker 1>keep our head above water other than that real, real

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<v Speaker 1>good stretch of a week and a half or two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks we had. So I think what maybe Galvinizers was

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<v Speaker 1>being in the hunt deeper into the season than we

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<v Speaker 1>had been in what eight I mean we're talking. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's the last Pennant race I had remembered,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was, you know, I was up for that one,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, David had been through those wars.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't been through that. Like I was only up

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<v Speaker 1>for two months, you know, Nick Evans and I coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think maybe as I think about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you asked the question, and kind of the the energy

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<v Speaker 1>came from being in it, you know, like really being

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and then you get the bolt from the

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<v Speaker 1>front office and then we start playing well. And also TC, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>TC brought us in when we made the trades for

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Johnson and your eBay and these guys coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>and he brought me and Flores and Tahada, and due

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<v Speaker 1>to on the infielders, David must have been busy. I'm kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>because what TC was telling us that this is a meritocracy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know. I mean we got like, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>four you in here, we got two come in and

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<v Speaker 1>you know number five is going to be on the menu.

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<v Speaker 1>So whoever plays best gets to play. And that was unique,

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<v Speaker 1>not that we weren't playing the best players, but that

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of had that many options of good ball players.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, yeah, how was.

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<v Speaker 2>It playing around David Wright? Us Mets fans have such

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<v Speaker 2>like a he had such an aura for us. He

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<v Speaker 2>was so much bigger than life. What was it like

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<v Speaker 2>to be his teammate?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I got to know him kind of in the

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<v Speaker 1>intimate settings where he lets his guard a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>so he would be bigger than life at times. But

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<v Speaker 1>also like you could get in there and you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>needling him and back and forth and have like just

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<v Speaker 1>that locker room banter where you're just you're just getting

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<v Speaker 1>on each other. But David's willingness I thought to take on.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's already the most recognizable player we have because

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<v Speaker 1>he's the best, and he plays every day. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>taking on like that responsibility of posting and showing the

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<v Speaker 1>whole club and the organization what it looks like to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and play hard every day. Also trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be the best teammate he could, which is a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to choose to do that. I've chosen

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<v Speaker 1>not to do it enough times to know you you

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<v Speaker 1>can choose not to. So now he's taken on that

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<v Speaker 1>that like he's looking around to help those around him, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you add in the fact that like for

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch of mostly what I remember, we weren't as

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<v Speaker 1>good as we wanted to be. We weren't very good,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ain't come talk to me after ball games.

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<v Speaker 1>They went and talked to David. And so now he's

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<v Speaker 1>representing us in the organization again through the media, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just see, like it's a lot of weight to

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<v Speaker 1>take on that he did voluntarily, and so I was

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<v Speaker 1>always so impressed at how he could do that and

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<v Speaker 1>still be so good on the field because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a long season and you could you could not see

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<v Speaker 1>it where you could just see that's a lot, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to take on. It was a it was

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<v Speaker 1>a it was a heavy burden for him to advocate

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<v Speaker 1>for us as much as he did because he was

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<v Speaker 1>good and I really wasn't, but he was still standing

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<v Speaker 1>up for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you found your shry at some point that season,

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<v Speaker 3>But do you stay in touch with any guys from

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<v Speaker 3>that team.

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<v Speaker 1>I reach out to de Grom a little bit, so

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<v Speaker 1>and then so Jake, and then you know, David, and

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<v Speaker 1>then so Saton wasn't on the fifteen club, but I

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<v Speaker 1>still we end up golfing together. So David, myself, Zimmerman,

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh Shatton have been able to go on to

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<v Speaker 1>like a golf trip the last two years, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we're hoping to keep that going. Let's see who else, Harvey. I.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been able to reach out to Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife actually ran into him Game four of the NLDS, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the team store, and Matt was in there spending

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<v Speaker 1>some of his shekels for the for the Metropolitans. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into Ruben Tahta and Long Island when I

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<v Speaker 1>went and played in twenty three, so he was coming

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<v Speaker 1>in to play with walking with Wally. He had had

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<v Speaker 1>some visa troubles and I was just leaving to head

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<v Speaker 1>to Salt Lake City and so we just missed each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But we got to see each other again and it

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<v Speaker 1>had been oh man, that'd been the first time I'd

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<v Speaker 1>seen him in a while, and I like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Ruben we were an instructional league together when he was sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's running around at short, stopped making every play.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I know in Ruby Tuesday Forever, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good group.

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<v Speaker 2>You had a pretty good look at the slide from

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<v Speaker 2>Chase Hutley going into Ruben Tata as a player, because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean as a fan, we all went Berzurik as

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<v Speaker 2>a player. What are the initial emotions going on when

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<v Speaker 2>you see something like that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's there's immediate anger and then there was also

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<v Speaker 1>some how do I want to describe it on my part,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'd say responsibility. I didn't get Ruben a very

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<v Speaker 1>good feed at all, Like I didn't really want the

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<v Speaker 1>ball and I kind of gave it to him like

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it. Now, I wish that Ruben would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken the out and secured it and got the

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<v Speaker 1>hell out of there, you know what I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>protected himself. But my boy wanted to play. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>him do it since he was sixteen. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make a play out on the other end, at least

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<v Speaker 1>coming in and Chase's goal is to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy on deck gets to turn it back. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the only goal he has. Now. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>say was it dirty? Did he go in there like

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<v Speaker 1>like he whacked him? He could have gotten him without

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<v Speaker 1>getting him like that, without a doubt. It was high,

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<v Speaker 1>it was late, and he went in to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, the on deck batter hit like pretty ferociously.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say this but after playing against Chase Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to talk to him about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've you know, not talked to him about it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him. We did the home run derby last year.

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<v Speaker 1>We were part of the old London you know performance,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what Chase would say, though, if you were say,

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<v Speaker 1>is like I'll be out at second base tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to get me, you can come

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<v Speaker 1>and get me. And that's the way Chase played his ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And what David would do was he would try to

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<v Speaker 1>get his ass, you know what I mean. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of ball we played. But it hurts

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<v Speaker 1>your heart to see it turned out that way for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for Reuben getting hit so hard and high.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the like the honestly, the Sandlauder in me

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<v Speaker 1>understands where Chase is coming from. It's like we want

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<v Speaker 1>to get one more turn it back, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>part I get, But it just I wish it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take my boy's leg to get there without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just that's a moment that sticks with every

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<v Speaker 3>Mets fan, least of our age, forever, because like the

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<v Speaker 3>watching your short SUPs leg get broken on a field,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, not how many baseball fans but we'll ever

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<v Speaker 3>see that in their lives. It was crazy. You also

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<v Speaker 3>had a pretty first hand view of the Wolmer floors

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<v Speaker 3>night you mentioned it before. At what point did you

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<v Speaker 3>guys know what was going on and when you initially

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<v Speaker 3>saw your shortstop in tears, what did you think was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we sorted out that there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>move and flow was involved in it. But every other

0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.319
<v Speaker 1>time there's a move like that, you get hooked out

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<v Speaker 1>of the ballgame and the flow was still out there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, So obviously it wasn't something

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. I don't know. I'm I tried. I

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<v Speaker 1>was excited when I was in the lineup and tried

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<v Speaker 1>to play. I was oblivious to all sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>David would have to tell me what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd be telling me, I didn't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like a little puppy dog chasing a ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you look out there and you just see the

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<v Speaker 1>real humanity of like we're people like with families. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I go back, like flow, Flow is an instructional

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<v Speaker 1>league too. I remember him when he was sixteen. He

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<v Speaker 1>was taller than Reuben, but they was about as skinny

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<v Speaker 1>as each other, and so all he knew was the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets And to kind of have all this swirling around

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<v Speaker 1>with you, like and you're on display. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw. We saw a human being put on

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<v Speaker 1>display in a way that that that most of us

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<v Speaker 1>get to do, you know, and in a more private

0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.600
<v Speaker 1>setting like his, Like if you get you get traded,

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<v Speaker 1>or you get moved on from your line of work

0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.920
<v Speaker 1>or to another company, like you don't, you're not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not on us. And why you don't run the highlights

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<v Speaker 1>on the ESPN for Sports Center and so the humanity

0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.720
<v Speaker 1>aspect it it made my heart hurt for him, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I got we got to see his courage

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<v Speaker 1>and stand up in the face of that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really like we really rode flow, you know, obviously through

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<v Speaker 1>the series with the Nationals, but even kind of more

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<v Speaker 1>in the long term. He ended up being the shortstop

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<v Speaker 1>after Ruben got hurt, and you know, you could say

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<v Speaker 1>maybe be and Flow could have caught the ball better

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, but you know, we was out there

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<v Speaker 1>trying trying to go and so yeah, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the way I think about it when I look back

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<v Speaker 1>at Wilbur and that set up going.

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<v Speaker 2>To the twenty fifteen playoff run again, you were so

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<v Speaker 2>insane in the zone. I mean, something that we really

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen from many players ever in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs in the World Series. What is it like

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<v Speaker 2>to be that locked in for that period of time

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<v Speaker 2>in the biggest games of the entire year. How are

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<v Speaker 2>you feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, somewhat I'd say, first, somewhat nervous to not touch it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>mess with this. I don't want to this cocktail is

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<v Speaker 1>really good, you know what I mean, And we're playing

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<v Speaker 1>well and I don't want to mess with it. But

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<v Speaker 1>the next way I've thought about is like when my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes would tell my body to do something, like it

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<v Speaker 1>would just do it, and it kind of did it fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was doing it dangerously, and my eyes were

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<v Speaker 1>telling me to swing at like good balls. We were

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<v Speaker 1>picking good balls. Well, like I kind of dug into

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<v Speaker 1>like I've been going back into the past. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>consuming my baseball lately, from like nineteen hundred to like

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty. This is the baseball. And Ted Williams used

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<v Speaker 1>to ask every great hitter he'd run into, what's it

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<v Speaker 1>take to be a great hitter? And Roger Hornsby told him,

0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.520
<v Speaker 1>get you a good ball to hit. You'll hear me

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<v Speaker 1>say it one hundred times at our eleven U game.

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<v Speaker 1>We played a tournament all year. Get you a good

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<v Speaker 1>ball to hit? You know what I mean? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>was choosing good balls and my body was doing what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted. And then at that point there's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>this scuffle between the pitcher and the batsman at who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to push you back? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Because like the pitchers want they want you to retreat,

0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.280
<v Speaker 1>they want to push you back. But if you can

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<v Speaker 1>get into attack mode as the batsmen we are on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can start anticipating where you think the pitcher's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go and where he's going to be there

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<v Speaker 1>are less places for the pitcher to go, then the batsman.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the batter gets to go. We get the whole outfield.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets the strike zone, and so if I pick

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<v Speaker 1>make him make a good ball, that gets even smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and you can kind of anticipate when you come here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna let you know that we was looking right there.

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense. Yeah, and so you just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of start riding it, and that's that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>way to describe it. I think when I got, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>personally to the World Series, the Royals were able to

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<v Speaker 1>push me back a little bit and I got defensive

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<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't as attacking, and I started swinging it

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<v Speaker 1>at bad pitches and then you could just feel this

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<v Speaker 1>ebb and flow between the twirler and the batter. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like they get to go first, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>They initiate and they're trying to push you back. But

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<v Speaker 1>the price for going first is they don't get to

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<v Speaker 1>go last, and they're further away from the fight, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, we're fighting over this straight It's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing Sandy Alders seems to talk about the strike

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<v Speaker 1>zone like I think he nailed it. It's a fight

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<v Speaker 1>over the strike zone. You can feel it in the postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>like when Francisco Lindor gets one to zero with a

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<v Speaker 1>runner on first, You're like, he's going to score him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna score him right here on this good ball

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna hit, gonna split this gap. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I tell the boys in our baseball for the Blue

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<v Speaker 1>Claws over the weekend, Like we get somebody on first,

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<v Speaker 1>I go score him. Well, the only way you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to score him is you better beat the infielders. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to beat the first line of defense most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. And so you kind of start talking ball

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<v Speaker 1>like this, and so I would say that fortunately for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and that stretch run, I just kind of gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a moment, and you know, I was never going to

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<v Speaker 1>take over a baseball game or two defensively, so needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be on offense.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that Does that ever affect your playgause? Earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>your career, you were moving a lot between the infield

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<v Speaker 3>the outfield. There were some good times, there were some

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<v Speaker 3>bad times. What's it like getting into the box when

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're going through struggles in the field to

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<v Speaker 3>the second anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, certainly, because there's more pressure on it, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel when you're a one dimensional play. Were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to win ball games around here, like I want to

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<v Speaker 1>score more runs than the other guys, and if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not catching it on defense, that's not helpful. And and

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<v Speaker 1>so as we you know when you're when you get

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<v Speaker 1>in there and you know you're not going good on defense.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Damien easily said something. When I was a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>He would say, and I haven't I got my hat

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<v Speaker 1>back where someone would do that, but he would. He

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<v Speaker 1>would pick his hat up when it was time to

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<v Speaker 1>play defense, and he after it a bad and even

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a crabb he goes, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>defensive hat. Now it's time to defend, and he'd put

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<v Speaker 1>it on boom and he'd be like, okay. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a way to separate the two. So what I learned

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<v Speaker 1>it was easier for me to separate a bad play

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<v Speaker 1>on defense from offense because I knew if I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go on offense, I wasn't gonna get to play, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I would I would like I would have coaches

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and they would want to talk about a play

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<v Speaker 1>on defense, and I might be hitting first or second

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<v Speaker 1>and I was easy for me to say, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to put my helmet on, like you know, Easy

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about put his hat on, and so with

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be like I want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about that. Boo boo. I just made I promise,

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<v Speaker 1>But I gotta go hit right now, and I'm hitting third,

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<v Speaker 1>and it could be first and third, no outs, It

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<v Speaker 1>could be nobody on two outs. It could be runner

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<v Speaker 1>on second with one out, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some situations I got to run through. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the defense without a doubt, but I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you know that if I don't go and hit, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't got to worry about the defense because y'all won't

0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>run me out there. So I kind of separated it

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, separate, try to separate the defense

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<v Speaker 1>from the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>After the twenty fifteen season hit, the free agent market

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come back with the Mets, went with the Washington Nationals.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that whole experience, like negotiating contracts with with

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<v Speaker 2>both teams? Were the Mets pushing harder? What was that

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<v Speaker 2>like in the offseason?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think that, Yeah, the offseason that one will

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<v Speaker 1>had the qualifying offer where we get like a week

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<v Speaker 1>after the World Series, and like there was serious consideration

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<v Speaker 1>to take in that. Well, I can say it this way,

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<v Speaker 1>never in my life that I think that I turned

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<v Speaker 1>down fifteen point eight million dollars for one year, Like ever,

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<v Speaker 1>I just what the day the day that we did it,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at my wife, I was like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? But it's in the hopes of hoping

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<v Speaker 1>to get multiple years. But so we gave serious consideration

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<v Speaker 1>of that because, you know, the idea is I love

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<v Speaker 1>k Long, I loved all the guys, I loved Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Rossler and TC. And it's like we just got done

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<v Speaker 1>winning a pennant and I was able to finish the

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<v Speaker 1>year kind of August, you know, through the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason minus the World Series, playing really well offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the idea of you know, running it back

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, I think so, but multiple years is

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<v Speaker 1>what is what we were looking for, and and then

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<v Speaker 1>the off season unfolds and it ends up you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the market, the second base market at that time was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of Ben's Obris was was the one who made

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<v Speaker 1>that one go, you know what I mean? And who

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<v Speaker 1>was where was he going to end up? I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the Mets were interested, the Cubs were interested, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you also had the trade market as well, and as

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<v Speaker 1>Drubil was available and Neil Walker, so you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets end up going is drouble and Neil kind of

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<v Speaker 1>back to back days almost as a free agent. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, and then I looked at my wife and thought,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks it looks really unlikely, like we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to find a way back to New York,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't anything personal. And he could have taken the

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<v Speaker 1>qualifying offer as well too, And so to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>the market, our market was kind of cold, like we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you know, there wasn't a ton in interest. I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't say interest the qualifying offer that was attached to

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<v Speaker 1>me for the draft pick. Teams were not They don't

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.120
<v Speaker 1>like giving up draft picks. And I don't blame them,

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<v Speaker 1>because that bonus pool money allows you to go and

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<v Speaker 1>just add talent to your system, and talent to your

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<v Speaker 1>system can help you in the big leagues themselves, or

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.160
<v Speaker 1>they can help you acquire talent talent at the deadline,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this thing was kind of weighing me down.

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<v Speaker 1>And so teams they were little what they just didn't

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:00.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a ton of offers, but the Nationals made

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<v Speaker 1>one that that that that we wanted and took about

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Eve, and you know, then stayed in the NL East.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when fight for a division.

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<v Speaker 2>You stayed in the NL East. You're aware that your

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<v Speaker 2>best numbers against like any team are against the Mets.

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<v Speaker 2>What's that like to own the team that you used

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<v Speaker 2>to play for?

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<v Speaker 1>Like and I wouldn't call it owned, played well, played.

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<v Speaker 3>Well fifteen fifty games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe I was comfortable in that batter's box. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>been in it since two thousand and nine. It was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to pull in on the dark side, to go

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<v Speaker 1>into the Visiting Clubhouse because the only there the time

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I'd been over there was for David's got a fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>football league that I've been fortunate enough to be in

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<v Speaker 1>for probably now when is it twenty twenty five, like

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years now, So he hosted that one year. We

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<v Speaker 1>all got together in the visiting clubhouse. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to kind of walk in like the back way

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<v Speaker 1>into the dark side. But it like I I was more,

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<v Speaker 1>I was motivated, like to do well, to try to

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<v Speaker 1>live up to the value the contract and then also

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<v Speaker 1>like you see your former ball club, it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind getting you guys too, And we're in

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<v Speaker 1>the same division. We're going to hook up nineteen times,

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<v Speaker 1>like all right, And I think fortunately, like the we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play each other until like May that year, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken. It was like deep and it's deeper

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<v Speaker 1>in the season, maybe six weeks now swinging the bat

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well, and then I swing the bat well like

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<v Speaker 1>the first game or two to kind of like settle in,

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<v Speaker 1>because again it's that fight back and forth, like the

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<v Speaker 1>pitching staff like Harvey and Jake are trying to knock

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<v Speaker 1>me through the backstop and I'm I'm trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>that way. I'm not. I would charge you to my

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<v Speaker 1>weapons bigger, you know what I mean. So yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of it was. It was it was nice

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<v Speaker 1>to have a good start if if I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>play well in.

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<v Speaker 3>DC started to transition more to this current Mets team.

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<v Speaker 3>While you were playing on Nationals, you did have a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of overlap with one. So though, what was

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<v Speaker 3>he like as a very very very young player and

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<v Speaker 3>did you ever could you ever feel or foresee that

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<v Speaker 3>he'd become the player he's now become.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it would probably probably be difficult for me

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<v Speaker 1>to predict that he would be you know, Rogers hornsby

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<v Speaker 1>like ops plus and one seventy. But I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>I could say with that is that I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was rehabbing and trying to get healthy because I'd had

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<v Speaker 1>knee surgery in the off season of seventeen, and like,

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm I'm running crooked circles, you know what I mean.

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not moving worth the crap, and so I'm kind

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<v Speaker 1>of focused on that when one comes up. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching the games but not attending to them, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>as closely as a rehab player. But I still remember

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Long. I go, what's up with one? Because he

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<v Speaker 1>had a whole run the other way like one of

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<v Speaker 1>his first games or two, and I was like, man,

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy took on the big carry as a nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old. I was like, what is going on? And

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<v Speaker 1>so I asked k Long, I go, what's up with

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with one? He goes, He'll never go back down.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes this one's special, like this one's special. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, and then I got back. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of my first series back was in Yankee Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>and one hit a home run the other way, and

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like you're just there in that box. Nothing was

0:23:59.560 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 1>ever ever felt like it was moving too fast for him.

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think watching him part of that was his

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<v Speaker 1>his choice and his willingness to not ever give away

0:24:07.760 --> 0:24:11.000
<v Speaker 1>a pitch. He never gives away pitches, And that's a

0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>choice because I've thrown enough in the trash where I

0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't paying attention to know it like, and so it

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and what it ends up being contagious, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like if Wan's in there looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>good ball every single pitch from the moment he wakes

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<v Speaker 1>up in the morning, then what excuses do I have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like watching David, you know what I mean, Like

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 1>what am I gonna do complain about not playing well

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>or getting something from the crowd. Like David's out there

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<v Speaker 1>every day standing up for us at the end of

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>it and taking it. Not that the fans are giving

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it to him, but you know he said with Jeter

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<v Speaker 1>got booed in New York, so like you're gonna get

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 1>it from time to time, and so it just like

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff builds a momentum on itself over

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the course of a long campaign, and you could see it.

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, his Wan's in camp right now, like home

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>run is first at bat and you see him in

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>his work and how he goes about it. It's like, yeah,

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>got like he's almost Ted Williams, you know what I mean,

0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Like this is fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's awesome. Also to bring him into a team

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 2>that made to the NLCS last year. Has Francisco Indoor

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.199
<v Speaker 2>brought back, Pete Alonzo, Viento's The list goes on on

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the team's loaded. How do you feel about the Mets

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<v Speaker 2>going into the twenty twenty five season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that without a doubt, as you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the momentum of getting into the NLCS and you know,

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>really you know, stand in toe to toe. I think

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<v Speaker 1>with the Dodgers, you know, Charlie Dodgers last year, I

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:32.400
<v Speaker 1>think that offensively it's as deep a lineup, like it's

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>really deep. Of course you have the Dodgers, but I

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>think the depth of the Mets stands up with with

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<v Speaker 1>any other team in the National League, probably in the

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>big leagues. It unfortunate news with Francisco Alvarez, which I'm

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>sure we'll probably be able to talk about a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, the depth and the ability to go kind

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<v Speaker 1>of switch, you know, left right, left right with protection

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and not anybody be able to get the platoon advantage

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 1>on you for too long. It's not I'm not breaking

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>ground to say that. Like the pitching in general, there's

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a couple of hints like to I think mentors coming back,

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, easing back into it. And then is it

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Suarez I'm playing like, is he a little banged up

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>in camp if I'm not mistaken or no, is there

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a relief pitcher noun? Yez forgive me, thank you very sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing two games at the end of spring training,

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.440
<v Speaker 1>so I'll like get locked in for that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>more globally watching my baseball and then Manaya and oh,

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:32.360
<v Speaker 1>forgive me, we're just talking about yeah, montass as well too,

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So like we're kind of talking to you guys like

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>there's there's work that has to be done, like you know,

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the start and pitching. You're kind of hoping to get

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred innings at them out of the staff, and

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>so you know it'll be it'll be the internal options

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're working through in spring training. To try and

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the return the health of Manaia and

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Mantas and then kind of see what happens at the deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe you don't need much. I'm I'm curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see how much the pin gets used early in the

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>season to make up maybe for some innings that aren't

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>being provided that you thought you might get from the

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 1>starting pitching. So well, these campaigns are fun. You know,

0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you still remember to you know, Carlos's first what five

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>ball games last year, you know, like the sky was falling,

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like it goes every direction, uh and twice on Sunday,

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>and so yeah, I think that, you know, it would

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>be like the Crosstown right now, they're dealing with you know,

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 1>starting pitching health as well, and so it just kind

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>of unfortunately that time of year where you're hoping to

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:35.520
<v Speaker 1>dodge the rain drops and if not between Jeremy Hefner

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and the training staff with you know, Brian Chiciclow who

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I had in Triple A and Joe Golie and Double A,

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>like they'll get him back and as strong as ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Just you want to you don't. You don't want to

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>get too far behind too early, you know what I

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>mean like it, you know, you don't want to have

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to thread the needle. I think that even David Stern's

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of alluded to that last year that you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of we're kind of on the edge there, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, and like we we got we know,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe in the ball club we have, but we

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>got to go. At a certain point, you run out

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of games.

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 3>So you mentioned that you'll be doing some games toward

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>the end of the month on S and Y. You

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.120
<v Speaker 3>made your S and Y debut last year. I think,

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 3>speaking for Mark and I speaking for Mets fans, you

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 3>did an amazing job. What's it been like that transition

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 3>trying to be the color guy in a broadcast and

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 3>trying to add that to your repertoire.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thank you for that. Thank you. That's humbling.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Out nervous like like this is nerve

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>wracking stuff. I can't say enough about Gary Cohen and

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>just how just goy like he just lays it out

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>for you, you know what I mean, and just provide

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 1>such a such an environment to talk baseball. And then

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>you know Ron as well too, but I mean he

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 1>does S and Y. He is the reason he gets

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>national games like they're the best, and then got to

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>work with Keith as well too. But I'd say one

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of the biggest adjustments, honestly was was being the different

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>viewpoint of the strike zone and being so far away

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>from it. I like to be close to the strike zone,

0:28:57.880 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I like to be real

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>close to it. That's what we're fighting over. I like

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to tuck in there as close as I can. So

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it took me from getting used to that.

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 3>So I said, yeah, you got your weapon.

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's a big one too. It's bigger than this thing,

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.959
<v Speaker 1>and so had I had to catch myself. I started

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>watching the game on the monitor to see what happened

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>in the strike zone to see if it was a

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>curve or a fastball or like a change of pace,

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and then I would pick the ball up live. So

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that way, if there was a highlight or a replay

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>for me to do or some color to do on,

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I knew what pitch it was. I knew what part

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>of the strike zone it was in or not in

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>is a bad ball, And then I could kind of

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>because the first time I did it on which was

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>good to do, I was kind of trying to decipher

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>what had happened in the zone and the coming together

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I was trying to like say

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>something that was you know, people wanted to hear, and

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, I was, ah, I'm just so

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I watched it on the monitor and then pick up

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the ball, and so I've enjoyed that because I like,

0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to be close to that strike.

0:29:57.560 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Zone watching the game from afar as well.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:00.120
<v Speaker 1>Well.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>There's been so many changes that have gone on with

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 2>how the game is being played and the philosophies, especially

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>on the hitting and pitching side of things. What's your

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>take on the I guess movement forward right now in

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>baseball at least, it seems like in the public eye

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that we're very much more analytical focused and rather it's

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 2>not as much performance based every single day.

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we end up being like from a

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>performance standpoint, once you get to the big leagues, it's

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>a pretty darn good meritocracy. It seems that maybe there's

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>a level of data that may give guys opportunities in

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the minor leagues that they might not have gotten previously

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 1>if they weren't being productive. Like we like, we like

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>the way that your curve performs, it spends at this

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you know RPMs, which we have learned that you know

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>that has success. So if we can learn to get

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you to throw, it will kind of keep giving you chances.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:59.959
<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm not I don't overly love machines personally.

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I think part of the reason that I had

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the fortunate and be so fortunate to be accurate, that

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>was kind of my unique skill is my dad threw

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to me as a child all the time. If I asked,

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>he was throwing, and so I got good at dancing.

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I think this is a dance between the pitcher and

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the battery with my father, you know what I mean.

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And I got accurate, and then I was going to

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>actually ask you guys, like I remember my baseball growing up,

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>not as much cheering for a specific team like Atlanta

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>would have been the closest one to us because they

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 1>were on TV. But I remember it as playing like

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I just remember playing like all the time. That's all

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. I wanted to play with my peers.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get at bats and hit. And so

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that the machine pitch, while you can probably

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>get more reps. You know what, I mean in a

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 1>shorter amount of time. There's something about seeing that ball

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>come out of somebody's hand. And when I think back

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to like who I would consider the two greatest hitters

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 1>of all time, like Babe Ruth and Ted Williams, all

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 1>they did was play with their peers unsupervised. They didn't

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 1>have no coaches out there. They had the scoreboard, and

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>you had to learn how to problem solve. So like,

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>if you like to run the bases, you better learn

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>how to be accurate because you only get three swipes

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 1>at this thing unless they throw a stripe, you know

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And so I think that there's an

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for the youth and kind of baseball to problem

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 1>solve better if we're not so on top of them,

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like let them have their style.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>When's the last time you saw somebody with some Mellot

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>sort of style, you know what I mean, Like like

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Josh Hamilton had a nice little battip to them, but

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like we like Teddley's, like, don't don't mess with their style.

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I think that children, because I'm in the youth

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of right now watching my boys play, children are

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>the best movers you know what I mean, they'd move,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>They moved beautifully. What they lack is accuracy, But they

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>spend thirty hours a week in school. So why do

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.479
<v Speaker 1>would I expect you to be accurate with this? I

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't accurate with it on defense, you know what I mean?

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>So why would I expect you to be? And so

0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's, yeah, there's kind of that opportunity.

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And so I know you guys ever been on a

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>machine before and never hit against one?

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, uh, James likes makes fun of me because

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I talk about my high school baseball days like very

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 2>fondly on the podcast and it's it's always roading joke.

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, like there's there is nothing like hitting off

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 2>of a live arm. Like the live arm is always better.

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 2>It's always you get a much better read on it.

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Like my dad through VP to me, same thing, whenever

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I wanted, he was ready to go. But yeah, hitting

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>off the machine, I've I've hit off of one of

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the new machines recently where you can literally like copy

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Jacob de Grom's slide.

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>That that trajec thing, yes, totect.

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>One, and then on top of that, hitting with like

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>a rap Sodo machine and seeing how hard you're hitting

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 2>it in launch angle, it's like very overwhelming if that's

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>not something you were used to. But at the same

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>time it's like, wow, I kind of wish I had

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 2>some more at least.

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>The choice of it. Yeah, maybe the choice of it.

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>All right. So here's been my explanation of hitting off

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a machine. And the traject may be different because I

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't done like the newest one. I've done one before,

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>but which is like some run of the mill guy,

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>not like the grom out there. Yes, but I equate

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the pitching machine like a straight fast one out of

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the pitching machine, like go into the eye doctor and

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>when they put that puff air in your eye and

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>you kind of go like this, that's what it feels

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>like when the ball comes out, Like when somebody, Yeah,

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>when somebody kind of comes into me and gets their

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>wind up going to their stretch, it's like I can

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 1>get in the rhythm with you and kind of get

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in the style. It's more difficult to do in my

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>experience with that. So that's been my machine one. And

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, you know, as far as like

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>to have the access to it, for sure, But I

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>do think that still as best as if you can

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>get someone to throw to you. I just think of

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the number of bats that like these old school guys had,

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Like when they got done playing a season, they went

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and barnstormed. If I had to do it again, I

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.839
<v Speaker 1>would play more winter ball. Really, I would do less

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>weight room and play more winter ball. If I want

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>to get better at baseball, I think if I play

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>more baseball, I'll get better at it.

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that a lot of the injuries right

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 2>now in general that are coming up are because players

0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 2>are focused a lot more on weightlifting rather than like

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>saying loose type of thing and playing more baseball.

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that. I think that if you can, if

0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you throw and hit more and learn how to I

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>think this is a punch. You're throwing a punch from

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the mound. You got two of them always, And then

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I tell my boys too, I got you got two punchers,

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 1>and you've got two kickers. You know what I mean?

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>So you what those old school guys kind of learn

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>how to do, is they learn how to throw a

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>punch they could throw over and over again, all right.

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that also that if someone else is teaching you,

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>like what to do with the ball, and how to

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 1>hold it and how to throw it, and how to

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 1>shape it specifically. That's not necessarily your punch in your style,

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>that's theirs. Now you don't know if this coaching what

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it's doing to you. So I more prefer like I

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>have my son, he throws curve balls. You know, he's

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 1>eleven years old, he's about to be and I'll go,

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 1>he goes, Dad, am I allowed to throw curves? And

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>all the kids I'll tell him. I go, absolutely, I go,

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>what kind of curve you want to throw? You can

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 1>throw one side to side, you can throw one over

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the top, you can throw any kind of shape you

0:35:58.200 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>want to go, Paint a picture of the of the

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 1>want and send it like I don't. I don't think

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that Candy Cummings when he started throwing a curve with

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>his rock, you know what I mean, like was gonna

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 1>break that way? He just started curving it. Now you

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>could say he's not doing it at the velocity, and

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that definitely plays a role. But I'd like to see

0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of less specific coaching on like the positions you

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>should get into, and more coaching on like what's the

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.439
<v Speaker 1>scoreboard telling us right now? And how can I teach

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.359
<v Speaker 1>you how to hunt in this situation because we got

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to score more runs than the other guys.

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Daniel has been great talking. I feel like we keep

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 3>you here for hours. We can find stuff to talk

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 3>about all day, Baseball, the Mets, whatever it is. But

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna have to wrap this up for a second.

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 3>So just a couple of final kind of more random

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 3>questions before we let you go. You've talked about facing

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.359
<v Speaker 3>guys like Jake. You were part of an era where

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 3>there was probably the last true era of the starting

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>picture Kershoff Orlander. These guys sure as are who've become

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 3>masters of the game, future Hall of famers, who might

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 3>have been the toughest picture you ever had to face

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 3>in your career, someone who always had your number. That

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 3>would be maybe a bit of a surprise.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Defans, Oh snack, Okay, that's an interesting question because I

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>think relief pitcher, nobody will be surprised. I I like

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.879
<v Speaker 1>my last at that or two off of Josh Hater,

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Like the last one looks like I'm from benchwarmers, Like yeah,

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's I called a hit and run on myself

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and still didn't have a chance, Like I had no chance,

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>And then like whenever Cliff Lee would get in the

0:37:27.840 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>spot because like Cliff, Cliff understood I think maybe first

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and foremost that his job was to get deep in

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>the game. Like it feels like he was trying to

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 1>finish what he started. So he would I wouldn't say,

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 1>have the governor on, but he would know how to

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>get through the lineup if there was nobody on base.

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>But he was a different human, and when there was

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.440
<v Speaker 1>runners in scoring position, he would start throwing things it

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:52.440
<v Speaker 1>just hadn't seen until there are runners on. So he

0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>was he was difficult to face, like really difficult. And

0:37:56.760 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>then someone that nobody I wouldn't say, wouldn't expect it

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:06.160
<v Speaker 1>have to be. It's definitely a lefty. I can't really

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>yeah this. I'm trying to think if there was a

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>lefty or two, like, uh, it's it'd be like left

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 1>handers like I just I hit on the left side

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>because I like having the platoon advantage. You know, I mean,

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>most of the world's right handed, so only thing better

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>would have been switched, but I couldn't do it.

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>What do you think is the most underappreciated trait in

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Major League Baseball right now?

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Accuracy? All right?

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 3>As in command for a picture.

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Accuracy when I booted a ball where you're like, oh

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 1>my goodness, I can't. I love that Daniel is so

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>accurate catching the ball. So it's like, you know, go ahead, please, I.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Say, you got a call two years ago to come back,

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>and you got a couple of coffee and triple A

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 3>with the Angels? Are is it over? Is it officially

0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 3>over for Daniel Murphy?

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Okay. So I came back because I started watching

0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the way Babe Ruth hit and I was like, I

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit like that. I had a completely different move.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>But then I'll watch my boys if I give him

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a heavy enough bat getting the same exact positions that

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Babe Ruth gets into, and Ted Williams and Roger Hornsby

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and Griffy. Griffy took us back in time, in my opinion.

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So I got to thinking, what is it that that

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>children have in relation to Babe Ruth at similar It's like, well,

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Ruth wasn't really coached how to hit, you know what

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like specifically, and the child hasn't been coached.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>And then I don't really coach my boys on positions.

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I just tell him to nuke, you know, what I mean,

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>and that's it just hit this thing to the sun,

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and I give him heavy bats and so like I

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.760
<v Speaker 1>got my seven year old, you know, I got videos

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of him swinging a thirty five inch, thirty five ounce

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>lou Gary bat. But it's it's a store it's a sword,

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, It's a stick. He likes stwords.

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.000
<v Speaker 1>It's just a bigger one. But he's smart. He likes

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to hit baseball, so he figured out he'll snap that

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>thing right in there. He gets in the same positions

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>as Ruth. Ruth's just more accurate because he's done it more.

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just just a couple of for sure. Who's your

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite baseball player to watch right now in the league?

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>M hm, So difficult to not say Mike Trout when

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 1>he's healthy, because like Roger hornsby ops plus you know

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, one seventy two and now Judge is

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>right there as well. And also I don't understand how

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 1>right handers do it. I just don't get it. I

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 1>know how you do it from that side of the plate.

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>You got to stick your nose in there on curves

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like seventy five percent of the time. It looks miserable

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>like they just I don't I don't know how they

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 1>do it. So those those guys are are really impressive.

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I find myself like I'll watch Trout, like I'll go

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:43.919
<v Speaker 1>out of my way to watch Mike, so I pray

0:40:43.920 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 1>that he's healthy because it's much better for our ball game.

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And then like Soto's at bats, like these guys that

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>don't give away pitches, those are kind of the things

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>I end up attending to. Specifically, this this.

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Is my last one. Mark if you got another one,

0:40:58.160 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 3>we like to ask a lot of the ballplayers to

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 3>come on here. When you signed that first big contract,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 3>was the first thing you bought?

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>Well, what's your definition of big? Because I thought that,

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 1>like arbitration year one was pretty big. Does that count? Yeah?

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 3>You can tell us the most fun Yeah, the most

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 3>fun thing I got?

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Got right?

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, I probably went I went to Total Wine

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad's from Kentucky, so he likes bourbon. So

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<v Speaker 1>I find myself kind of like a little bourbon, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little little whiskey old Scotch, and so I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Total Wine and probably got like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a twelve hundred dollars Battle of Scotch. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wow, nice, we'll celebrate this, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. So that would have been, Yeah, that would.

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<v Speaker 2>Have been I was gonna have no more questions. But

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<v Speaker 2>now I got to know, go to whiskey or scotch.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you like it? What do you what are

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<v Speaker 2>you buying?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's like if I could just if I could

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<v Speaker 1>find it anytime I want. There's this It's called Tully

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<v Speaker 1>bar Dyne. It's a Scotch. It's just kind of got

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<v Speaker 1>some sweetness to it. And I think I've had like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe the twenty year or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>If I can find that kind of this Tully a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit older Tolly bar Dyne, that's what I would do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't drink a ton, but if I am like

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<v Speaker 1>it's that that tastes good.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice all right, James, nothing else. I think we're good.

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<v Speaker 2>To wrap us up, Murph, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us. Hopefully we can have you on again a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of times during the season would be great talking

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<v Speaker 2>more baseball with you. If there's anything you want to

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<v Speaker 2>plug again here at the end, this will be your shot,

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<v Speaker 2>and we appreciate you coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I think again, Thank you guys so much

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<v Speaker 1>for having me, thank you for letting me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's charity. She's really kind of poured her heart

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<v Speaker 1>into that and it's gotten so well received by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our baseball community and just everyone. So no, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>guys very much. And let's pray for salute and good

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<v Speaker 1>health for everyone here out of camp and everybody can

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here for opening Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree more, everybody. Daniel Murphy, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Tears four