1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Money. We all take vlich. We are the authority on 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: all things R and Ladies and gentlemen, what's going on? 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I am tanking and this R and D money podcast, 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: the authority on all things. All things are. And they 5 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: said we couldn't get it. They said we couldn't get it. 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: You are sought after. You are home grown voice. Now 7 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: you are a soulful songstress, classy and all her integrity 8 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: is intact. Ladies and gentlemen in the building, we got 9 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: our atltics, y'all got we Lord, how you doing good? 10 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: I have I have about to pick with you? Start 11 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: off Normally we like to go all the way back 12 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: to the beginning, which we're gonna do and start and 13 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: this is a very flowers oriented is Valentine would tell 14 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: you pod we get flowers. Really, yeah, all flowers to you. 15 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: This is this is your praise moment. This is for 16 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: you to talk your talk for celebration about who you are, 17 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: what you are, and why you are. Before we get 18 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: to that, there's lyric in one of your songs. Oh 19 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: my god, O hey, were you are talking trash? At 20 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: the end you say, this is not a rejection, Oh Lord, 21 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: show erection. You know this this is shady, out of control. Yeah, 22 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: how are you going to? How are you gonna be 23 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: out here? Triple beautiful? The oh thanks bad brown and 24 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: telling a man that he cannot appreciate what God has done. 25 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean I just felt it was 26 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: it was giving lust and it wasn't giving pure love. 27 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: I needed that pure love. All right? On your side. 28 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm on her side. Stop thinking. You think with your 29 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: mind because as your mind and your soul. You got 30 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: to understand, if you communicate with a woman's mind and 31 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: her soul, the body will following. From the defense attorney 32 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: to the prosecut I gotta go. Okay, I started off away, 33 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: but I have to. I'm a fan. I gotta follow. 34 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: And she hometown, So whatever you want. Oh ma, thank you, 35 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: thank you for coming, Thank you for having Thank you. 36 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: We we really really really appreciate you being here and here. 37 00:02:54,200 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: Um we love your music. Um, thank you got somebody 38 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: for you to be this nice and just a bright light. 39 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: You really be throwing some shade that niggas man at it. 40 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: She's she's she's nice to keep from y'all. Don't want 41 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: this other y'all don't want this other work. So let 42 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: me keep it. Let me keep it here for now. Yeah, 43 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: that is pretty me. Yeah. Listen, let's start at the beginning, right, 44 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: and I want to start off The moment I like 45 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: to identify is when did somebody say to you or 46 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: say about you that baby right there? Got it? She's special. 47 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: My grandma Holly, she was like she said, I sounded 48 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: like an angel. I guess I was singing in the house. 49 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: I was like three, and she was probably the first supportive, 50 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: um encouraging person who noticed that I had something going 51 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: on in my voice. So, yeah, and you're at three, 52 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going on. You're just are you 53 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: emulating something at the time? Are you like a favorite 54 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: song music in your house at that at that age? 55 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: Did you grow up in a musical home? Oh? Well, 56 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in a musical home, but like 57 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: my parents were always playing like just everything from you know, 58 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, the Jackson five to Eric Bonet, Alita Adams 59 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and Mariah Carey Whitney. So I'm always listening to these 60 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: legends and watching Apollo with my other grandma. And yeah, 61 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I guess that's when we talked about that all the time, 62 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: really about how parents it's important to play good music 63 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: for your kids. Oh my god, it's it's extremely important. 64 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: You gotta play good music for your kids because the 65 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: stuff that they're friends gonna music music for your friends, 66 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, for your kids so that they can influence. 67 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: Never exactly, I met someone who told me she never 68 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: listens to R and B or sold it all. She 69 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: just only listens to to trap music, which is beautiful. 70 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: I love trapped. But I was shocked. I don't know. 71 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: She was so cool, right, nobody listen whoever you are 72 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: young ladies stabbing nobody, I don't think. But but yeah, 73 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: I was shocked, Like I mean, but I feel like, 74 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what she listened to growing up. And yeah, 75 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: so it's a thing some people just don't listen too. 76 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: We're trying to change that. We're trying to change to 77 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: change it's a fight to give that um, to put 78 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: the good vibration, you know what I'm saying in the 79 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: mainstream for us. O, my god, talk about it, you 80 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So, what was the next step 81 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: from there? Was it church? Was it? Was it the choir? 82 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: Was it the church? Um? Shout out to Mrs Kim, 83 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Mrs Kelly, Uh, there are these amazing twins, gorgeous and 84 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: can sang down. They have this beautiful song called didn't 85 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: I and Ms Kelly, she was the choir director for 86 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: the youth and she gave me my first solo and 87 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: I just did a lot of singing. Heritage Fellowship Church 88 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: of Christ. Where's that? Where's that church? Rest in Virginia? 89 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Are they still there? They still? I think so? Ye, 90 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: they're still going. I need to visit. I feel I 91 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: feel like I might have been there. I've been. I've 92 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: been to pretty much every church in the DMV. Really. Yeah. 93 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I was singing and playing at every church, carrying my 94 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: keyboards and my aunt, my stand and a choir with 95 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: my group or a sing solo like I was at 96 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: every church doing. Wow. Yeah, it was a good It 97 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: was a good one. What church did you go to? 98 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: I went to Antioch Baptist Church in Upper Marlboro, Maryland. Okay, Patty, 99 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: he's still the pastor there? Sounds yeah? Yeah, we were. 100 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: We were a youth movement, the youth movement exactly that. Well, 101 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: it's a couple of things here into this, you know. 102 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: It was it was of course we were following behind 103 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: John p. K. Anything the New Life did that's what 104 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: we was on. But we also founded the first Christian 105 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: fraternities fraternity and sorority, So you know that that that's 106 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: that's where our kind of youth movement kind of grew 107 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: and began those moves that do step what is it 108 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: like a PG step show. I mean some of the 109 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: brothers had pledged worldly fraternities before they real quick you 110 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: gonna catch little boy doing they try to put him 111 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: in one of the fraternities. I don't think you're gonna 112 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: let him in the church one, but we don't judge. 113 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: If you want to be part of a q A, 114 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: you can't. Moving on, it's going to be good. It's 115 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: gonna be think about Christian fraternity anyway. So church any 116 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: singing in high school? Yes, Um, I went to Duke 117 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: Ellington School the Arts for a little while. I guess 118 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Yeah, they let me in. I don't 119 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: know why else, and I um, I was always skipping, 120 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: but it was the school I like the most. I 121 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: stayed there in the longest there. I was always skipping. Yeah, 122 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: especially the last year he was cutting at the School 123 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: of the Arts. Yeah, I just I didn't feel like 124 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: a star and it I think like I felt kind 125 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: of like no one really cared. But towards the end, 126 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: like my teacher Mr. Bonds, I missed. I think I'm 127 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: saying his name right, forgive me, sir, but I, um, 128 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: he was very nice towards the end, like I feel 129 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: like he started to appreciate it, or like finding out 130 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: that I could sing, like he saw something in me 131 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: in the end. But by then I was running from 132 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: this X who moved on with some girl and they 133 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: were always being affectionate in school and it just killed 134 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: me inside. So I just I couldn't be at school 135 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: to see so I would be at the museums and stuff, 136 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: just skipping and riding the train by myself. So the 137 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: relationship aspect of your music, this started along always sadness, 138 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: always single, Yeah, always sadness, always single. Yeah, well sadness 139 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: because of the single right there? Not well yeah, I 140 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: guess sadness in other ways too, but like, yeah, it's 141 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: always been at things. It is content, it really is. 142 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: It's always there is this something that you consistently tap 143 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: into when you're writing your records. Um, I'm always thinking 144 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: about what's going on, and I feel like, yeah, it's 145 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: always what's ever happening now, Like I go on the studio. Now, well, 146 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't have much to write about at 147 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: this point, well if it regards the romance. But yeah, 148 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: so let's go to Discovery. Okay, Discovery Discovery. So you're 149 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: out of high school and you're what are you doing? 150 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: And when do we get to the point where you're 151 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: getting this phone call and you're like, who is this again? 152 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: And what do you want from me? I mean, I 153 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: just got a job at public storage, and um, I 154 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: was making ten dollars an hour, and yeah, it was 155 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: a really good job. Like I knew this was like 156 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: the highest page job I've ever had, so I knew 157 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it. And um, the president of 158 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Dreamville EB he called me and wanted to fly me 159 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: out to meet Cole in l A. And it was 160 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: history from there basically. So we're demos floating around or 161 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: is it? Like? How how is it that it's that 162 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: that connection? How does that happen for you? Obviously you're 163 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: from you from d C? Where you are you in 164 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: d C at this part? At this point, you know, 165 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: I'm like deep in the middle of nowhere Maryland, But um, 166 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm like an hour from d C. So how how 167 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: how would it a label president here about you? So 168 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: oh wait, No, during this time, I wasn't in Maryland. 169 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: I was in Charlotte. But um yeah, he heard about 170 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: me through SoundCloud and this. Oh yeah, I was doing 171 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff with Dave James and d J 172 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: G Humble, um eli evening a lot of people are yeah, 173 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people and just throwing music out there. 174 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: And the guy Internet. Yeah, and this guy named omen Um, 175 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: he's amazing. He put me on to Cole Well Cold 176 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: like he told Cold about me. So were you at 177 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: this time where you're recording before way before the phone call? 178 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: Are you are you thinking to yourself, Um, one day 179 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to be rich and I'm going to be 180 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: famous or are you like you never music? No? I 181 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: just always just kept doing it, and I was ready 182 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: to leave it all for this man. But he went 183 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: to the Middle he went to the military, and so 184 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: I was forced to kind of like focus on my dreams. 185 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: But like I really I always want to leave this 186 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: for love and start a family, Like I don't want 187 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: to keep doing No, you're not really know We're going 188 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: to get to that, okay, we sad I don't want 189 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: to give that much energy to like this. Man. Man, man, 190 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: it's like, I want a family. I feel like that 191 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: is that's true life, that's our true love. Like to 192 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: have a family is beautiful, it seems so I want that. 193 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: So for you, this is a moment in time. What 194 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: the music? Wow, I guess the moment. It never stops nothing. 195 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: How do you like? It's like, yes, this is great. 196 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for the bands I think in I 197 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: don't want to skip over getting to the discovery because 198 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: we're right here and I just want to address it. 199 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: I think there is so much um, there's so much 200 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: gold um. There's so many lessons within your gift, um, 201 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: within just who you are and what you represent. And 202 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: I feel like there are so many little girls who 203 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: look like you try to sing like you, They try 204 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: to look like you, to try to emulate your movements, 205 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: to try to emulate your sound, your essence. And because 206 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of real talent, real singers, 207 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: real things that we grew up on that inspired us. 208 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: And so when someone like you comes around, and I 209 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: definitely understand the matters of the heart for sure, I 210 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: understand it. You know what I mean? I'm I'm married, 211 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: So I've i've I've kind of figured mine out. I'm 212 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: still working on but you know, I feel but it's 213 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: like there's a there's the other, there's another side to 214 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: that purpose that is just ongoing. As you keep saying, 215 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: it just keeps going, like no matter what else I 216 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: tried to do, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna play football. 217 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I'll be seeing on the field first, I'll be singing 218 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: the you Can't hold Me. You know, it always grabbed 219 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: me and brought me back, you know, even when I 220 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: wanted to quit music, you know what I mean. I'm I'm, 221 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: I tell this story all the time. I'm at Jamie's 222 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: house and I'm like, I'm done. This music game isn't 223 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: about music. It's about all of these other things that 224 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of. And this is 225 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: two thousand two, this is before social media, before all 226 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: of this that, you know, And even then, I feel 227 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: like that. Then I was like I'm better than him, 228 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm better, I'm better than her, he's I'm better. And 229 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: I was like, they won't spend money on me. I 230 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: got all of this, I do all of that, and 231 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: they're not feeling I'm gonna just go back home and 232 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: go to church. And one of the craziest moments of 233 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: clarity ever in in my musical musical life was Jamie 234 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: Foxx saying, you can't quit because if if you leave, 235 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: then what am I gonna do? And I was like, 236 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. He's like, I 237 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: look to you, I listened to you. You inspire me, 238 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: so who's gonna do that? And his sister, who don't 239 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: really play no games, like, yeah, you stuff. So I 240 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: stayed in his house, he made He made me stay 241 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: at his house, use the studio and all of that 242 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: until I just figured my life out. But I say 243 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: all that to bring that back around is that I 244 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: didn't know who. I didn't know what my true purpose was, 245 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: because the beauty of what you just said is you 246 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: weren't looking for money or fame. There came a point 247 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: to where I thought that that was the validation and 248 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: I lost sight of what my true purpose was. And 249 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm meant to give and inspire. I'm here to serve. 250 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: And once I was able to accept that, everything else 251 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: fell into place, and you have so much to give. 252 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: As I listened to your music like I'm listening to you, 253 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm working out what you like it. That's it, it's 254 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: in here. Now. You got a real gift. You absolutely 255 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: have a real gift, even from a from a songwriters 256 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: standpoint to how you think now talking to you and 257 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of seeing you in your reactions to things, things 258 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: are making even more sense to me as I've listened 259 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: to your music, because obviously you know we have the music, 260 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: and you make your assumptions off of whatever from the music. 261 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: But then you actually meet the person, You're like, oh, 262 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: I get it. It all makes sense, and I think 263 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: you know yourself Summer walker Um sayssor like it's very 264 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: pure than you. To me as a consumer, when I 265 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: listened to you, it feels very honest, you know what 266 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: I mean? Like you got a lyrical you tell her 267 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: to come back and get his bow. Wow, due right awesome, 268 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: But it's so visual. You go, you're gonna get it 269 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: so she can sign it for she got you. You 270 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: can't leave here without signing shout out to the end 271 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: if you want, we're gonna sit it right up here. 272 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: You talked about the dude rag like when the nick 273 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: got come pick up all this ship, Like don't forget 274 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: that too. Okay, shout out to Lemmens because he helped 275 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: me with that line. I think he was joking at first, 276 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: but I was like, nah, we need to keep that, Like, 277 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: I love it. That's what songwriting is about. Baby Face 278 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: told me that years ago, you have to have something 279 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: that they remember that sticks out. Yeah, out of all 280 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: the things, that's the thing I bring up that I 281 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: just love people. Uh, I don't know. Having people being 282 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: able to relate is like awesome, like fun with that, 283 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: you know. So, yeah, you're extremely relatable. Thanks. Alright, So 284 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: phone call, you get the phone call. We need we 285 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: need you to fly out here and see one of 286 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: the coldest You fly here and see cold Yeah, what 287 00:19:50,040 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: is going through your mind? Absolutely not, Absolutely I do that. 288 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: Hell no, I just got this job. I can't lose this. Yeah, 289 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: I can't lose this job. I hate flying. Um No, 290 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: I'm terrified. And and I knew, like, oh, this is 291 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: really a problem, this is my life could change. But 292 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: I was literally sitting there like telling myself no, and 293 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: I but I got drunk and I did it. I 294 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: got so drunk and I just never stopped alcohol. Alcohol 295 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: on the alcohol. There was no actual person who was 296 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: the battery, like girl, you tripping it was the juice. 297 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: I believe he kind of calmly was just like, yeah, 298 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, just come tomorrow. Like it was so like 299 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: literally got the call and like, yeah, like literally tomorrow, 300 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: Like I think that's what it was. Um it was 301 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: insanely fast, and um I really had no time to 302 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: even think about it or to really discover myself. But 303 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: I definitely was like I don't think I can. I 304 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: just got this job. But he was he wasn't really 305 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: trying to hear it, like you know, like he saw 306 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: the future he did. Yeah, I didn't know what the hell. 307 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm all. I feel like i'm music or in that way, 308 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of the most present in my life, like 309 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: I never think about what I could be, I guess 310 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: and this ship, I'm just very present. But I'm so 311 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: not that way in other aspects of my life, like 312 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: I e like my anxiety and anxious nature, but like um, 313 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: with music, I never I'm never really thinking of like 314 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: or what I could be, or like how big I 315 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: could get or something. Of course it'd be nice to 316 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: have that, but I'm not thinking about it like as 317 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm Yeah, no, like where every day I'm not thinking 318 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: I would like more money. But I played a lottery 319 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: every week every No, that's right that they will, they will. 320 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: They get my awesome. I've been playing since the DMV. 321 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever won big? Never? Damn, I don't think so. 322 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: Does this? Does Ja Cole? Does the name Ja Cole? 323 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: When you hear this, when you get there and you're 324 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: standing there, it's like they go, J Coole right there 325 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: and I'm right here? Does it? It doesn't like your 326 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: mind doesn't of course. I was like, oh my god, excited, 327 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: like it's J Cole in real life. Um. I immediately 328 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: we get to work. I think we started doing a 329 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: song to some beat um that was being made and 330 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: it was cool and never saw a light of the day, 331 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: thank god. But this other song I did stop uck 332 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: and um it was the song called FaceTime on my 333 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: first album, and it was crazy. How like that first 334 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: meeting we made a really incredible song. Organic? Yeah, very organic. 335 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: You're just writing a demo for someone? Oh my god, 336 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: Yes I was, Actually I was. It was for Rihanna. 337 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: I forgot. Yeah. I think we were in there right, 338 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: we were writing for Rihanna. But um, you know, I 339 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: don't think she I don't know if she ever even 340 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: heard it, but um, yeah, FaceTime, Yeah it did. This 341 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: is how it goes. Like a lot a lot of 342 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: people in our industry, they don't take those chances when 343 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: someone says I need you to come and help someone 344 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: else's career and you know, further their career. A lot 345 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: of time, especially artists that are writers, like I might 346 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: give away my biggest record are I'm like, you know 347 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. We I want to say that because 348 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: we are all we're all songwriters. We fall in love 349 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: with the music and sometimes you'll leave the studio and 350 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: you're like, damn, I probably could have kept that one. 351 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: You know, you have those moments, especially when you're strictly 352 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: a songwriter. You know, Like I've had moments where I 353 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: was strictly that's just what I was. I was a 354 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: hired gun called j to write some songs, and I 355 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: definitely had some moments where I'm riding home and I'm like, man, 356 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: I hope that nigger don't sing this the way. Maybe 357 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: I keep it. You just have those moments, man I 358 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: wrote that about such and such. Yeah, but it makes 359 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: it makes those opportunities where you were Now you can 360 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: create a fun people to understand that. Just take the opportunity. 361 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: You have a full career off going to l a flying, 362 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: don't like flying to write for another artist. This song 363 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: ends up on your album. Yeah, it's a great song. 364 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for what I mean. So it's like, 365 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: that's that's just how this ship works. If you take 366 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: those opportunities. You have to learn that. Wow. Really I 367 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: was taking to the Davante approach, this publishing companies for 368 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: his damn self publishing, and all my music was for me, 369 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: really for me. No one's going to sing it like me. 370 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah it's me, it's mine. Yeah, that's but that's kind 371 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: of true though it should always Wow broke right then 372 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: I got sat on the bench. So when I got bitch, 373 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, no money. And so Jamie Foxx was the 374 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: first person to start stealing on my song. Yeah, I 375 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: think I need that. When I said I was, it 376 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: was damn kind of his. It was kind of his. 377 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: I was forced into what I was, sitting on the bench. 378 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: They wouldn't put me out. I would put my music out. Um, 379 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Jamie was giving me an opportunity to find my way back, 380 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: just writing, producing in his space, running to Damon Thomas 381 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: hanging out with Tyrese with how you're gonna act like that? 382 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: It's going crazy and Damon Thomas, you know it gives 383 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: me to Hollywood. I'm like that sound crazy like this 384 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: you wrote that. So I'm just and they're like you 385 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: should come, should come work with us? Wow, Like I 386 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: don't like giving away my songs, my sauceman down to 387 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: my last go up to underdogs, meet this guy, um 388 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: and first records we do are oh for Marion um 389 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: And I'm trying to First of all, I'm obsessed with 390 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: that album. Obsessed, went crazy, insane. That is my favorite. 391 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 1: Oh my god, like literally ran that album into the ground, 392 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: Like I love the whole album especially I'm trying to Yes, 393 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: I love this is super full circle. Were you a 394 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: part of I'm trying to background? He sings the backgrounds 395 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: and I sing the backgrounds. I'm fan girl, y'all are amazing. 396 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, like that that was literally you could 397 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: tell with that project UM like group like people like 398 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: people came together. That was a gorgeous, soulful cohesive. Was 399 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: the weekend. It's a great moment. Yeah, it was like 400 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: a star weekend. What it was just happening in a weekend. 401 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: We'll we'll give you a quick story. We'll get a 402 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: quick story. No, no, So All Star Weekend in l A. 403 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Maybe two thousand three three one of those. I'm sure 404 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: somebody in the comments so be like it was two okay, okay, 405 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: you google it. But somewhere around that time, and they 406 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: had the Grammys and All Star Weekend in l A 407 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: that same weekend, and Um, the Underdogs was a collective. 408 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: It was we were like transformers. Literally it was five 409 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: to ten, I would say anywhere between that five to ten, 410 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: like really established songwriters producers who all came together and 411 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: we formed like Votron, and we just wrote songs and 412 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: produced songs for people, and we ended up everybody was 413 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: kind of when the l a, I'm going to go 414 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: out thing that we can and it ended up being 415 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: tanked myself, Eric Dawkins and Antonio Dickens, Dixon Dixon, Um, 416 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: Antonio Dixon, and we were like, we got records. Let's 417 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: just because oh was waiting in the lobby. See this 418 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: is a different I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give 419 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: you a little context of how the music business used 420 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: to be. It's a little different now. But for the underdogs. 421 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: We had had so much success as writers and producers 422 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: that they would labels would literally just send their artists 423 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: there and have them wait in the lobby and be paying. 424 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, wait, why yes, because they were waiting to 425 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 1: get their turn in the studio. I can name the 426 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: biggest of the biggest artists who I will not who 427 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: said in that lobby for hours, and we used to 428 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: figure out ways to entertain them. What j would do 429 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: is pull out the dice, oh and take these artists money. 430 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: These artists were the girls were not there. Marion had 431 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: just done a weekend two k's two K shows by 432 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: himself because he was a solo artist, and they got 433 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: a honey with him. Had to take it. Um no. 434 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: I took that, and I told him before we start, 435 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: I said, oh, don't do this. You don't know him. 436 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: You don't know him like I know him. You're not 437 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: from this place. He had that. Oh my god, it's amazing. 438 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: But you know they would have that. They would have 439 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: been waiting. It might be four or five artists. Yeah, wow, 440 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: all paying a studio right day? You I mean, I 441 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: turned it into that. But they were waiting to get 442 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: in these rooms and get sessions going and we just 443 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: took a liking to Oh. Oh, it's just I don't 444 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: know have you met him yet. I feel like he 445 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: is a great guy. We talked once in online. Yeah 446 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: it was a great guy, amazing spirit. And one day 447 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: this food driving on the freeway comes up with oh 448 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: what literally he's driving escort y. Yeah, that's amazing, the 449 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: windows down like this want this? Okay, alright, But that 450 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: was my last because I looked at Oh and I said, 451 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: I said, he's trying to cross over, very tough space, 452 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: to cross over from a boy to a man. Y'all 453 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: did the hardest thing. And I said, you need a 454 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: song called Oh my God. That song was hot. He is. 455 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: It's vain, I said, but it's a response. How do 456 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: we get every a column response? We need everybody to 457 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: know your name and know the effect that you have 458 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: on women. It has to be completely associated with your name. 459 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: That's the last track I actually produced on the NPC 460 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: before I switched off the computer and logic all that stuff. 461 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: But that was the last one, and I was like, 462 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: I got one. But to me, it was nothing vain 463 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: about that song. He still adamantly was trying to please her, absolutely, 464 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: But think about this though, like you want, Like Jenie, 465 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: I used to do it all the time. He used 466 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: to always put g in everything. He still always trying 467 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: to find a way to throw a G in. You 468 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Whatever song he was singing, right, 469 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: so you know you sing that about me and so oh. 470 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: I think we were consciously trying to make sure that 471 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: you know his name because he was coming from a 472 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: group that separate him unless he is oh than the loco. Oh, 473 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: that's always oh sing oh and Oh, it's gonna give 474 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 1: it to you. You know what I'm saying. He might 475 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: have had like he was doing something turned into he 476 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: was spinning with it. That's that's took it too far. 477 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: When you come from a dancing world, when you come 478 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: from a dancing the world like myself, Like when you dance. 479 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You try you try to 480 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: try to make this guy dancer. Now he's a dancer. 481 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: This is the thing I danced in my first video, 482 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: Monster Dances. You know what I'm saying. But it seems 483 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: like it's a correlation between me dancing and the song 484 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: is not working. Why I stopping That's the only reason 485 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: I stopped dancing. But I can dance start again. I 486 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: want to see, I do. I do want to see. 487 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: It's not going to do this to do this for 488 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: your flavors, you know, but I didn't think you'd really 489 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: do it. Have you written any records for anyone else? Never? 490 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: I did a session, um with someone really amazing. I 491 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: won't say her name because I don't know if it's 492 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: weird to say I don't. I don't know if it would, 493 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: but I did a session with her, and um, yeah 494 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: that was cool. That was really cool. It was my 495 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: first time. I think that was my first time outside 496 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: of this song I thought was for Rihanna. Yeah right, 497 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: I think sure, Yeah, I think you should write for 498 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: more people. I don't know. No, you're not ready to 499 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: get away. I'm not when it's not even that I 500 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: take him like I would love. I don't know if 501 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: I have, I've lost I think my passion for writing. Honestly, 502 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't really know what else to say at this point. 503 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: I am I gonna talk about I think that's when 504 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: writing for other people becomes becomes special, because it's like, 505 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, let me tell me your story, story down 506 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, give me, let's let's just hang 507 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: out for a day. Let's hit the moll, let's go 508 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: grab some food, and let's just talk and chop and build. 509 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm in a I'm in a session 510 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: with UH with Kate Michelle and my dog, right and 511 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: so we're in the session and we you know, we 512 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: we got it in and we just we just get 513 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: to talking trash like Cay Michelle just you know, she's prediculous. 514 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: So we just we just go at it. But I'm like, so, 515 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: I said, I saw you another online other day, just 516 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: talk you. I don't know why you be online talking crazy. 517 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: I'm telling her when I was doing the same thing. 518 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: And She's like this, na funk that, you know what 519 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like he had the write one. I was 520 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: the right one that motherucker tried to write one. I said, oh, Ship, 521 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:53,439 Speaker 1: you've got yeah, bla blast on Twitter and I'm gonna 522 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: blast back. I said, yeah, yeah yeah. And that became 523 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: like that was exciting game. It's like a game, like 524 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: a puzzle piece. All this is beautiful. It's psychology too, 525 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: it's and and it's getting it out. The worst things 526 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: you can do is just had it breathing inside of 527 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: you and you just never like, let me, let keeping 528 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: the gift to yourself, keep the gift to you. I'll 529 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: stop the world, stop thinking about going to school for psychology, 530 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: and this could be a way to well, I mean 531 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: music for me, it's completely therapeutic. Yeah, maybe you know 532 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like my my my wife is always 533 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: looking for certain emotions out of me, are certain responses 534 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: out of me, um, and they're not available. Because I 535 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: put it all in my music. I'm able to meet 536 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: her at a at a better place because I just, 537 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: I just I do all the sparring and all the screaming, 538 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: and you know all that I put that in my music. 539 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: So therefore, when I find me get to talk to her, 540 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: it's I'm in this place. That's good. Let her. But 541 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: I think I think as he's saying, I think you 542 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: have a lot to offer in that space, which is 543 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: an awesome space. You know what I mean to um, 544 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: to further the legacy of who you are, because I well, 545 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: I know this is no excuse for me and comparison 546 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: to you and you and so many other legends. I've 547 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: been writing like all my life, I've wrote this mixtape. 548 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: There was a mixtape I did way back in the 549 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: day called five Finger Discount. Then there was Areography, and 550 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: then there was Shad but Her Baby, and these were 551 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: all the things that I wrote myself. And then by 552 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: the time Shape Butter Baby happened, I feel like I 553 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: was just after after that, I was just burnt the 554 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:09,479 Speaker 1: funk out, like thin and you gotta plaque off that record. Yeah, 555 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: let's cues. Yeah, this this same music that's just living somewhere. 556 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: And then I slip everyone under a bush music is 557 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: living worldwide, millions of people mothers. What goes in what 558 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: goes into the thinking when you're writing a record like 559 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: Shape by the Baby for you, like, what was what 560 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: were your thoughts with that record? I was literally my 561 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: friend Elite. He's amazing, an amazing person, amazing producer, and 562 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: we're always kind of like playing in the studio. We're 563 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: not it doesn't feel like work. So I think I 564 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: was playing Sims, either playing Sims probably on the side. 565 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: Probably SIMS was around since three computer game and uh 566 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: sour Patches, probably somewhere around eating sour batches. And I 567 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: think I literally was doing my hair on the couch 568 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: with Shade Butter Like I was literally doing my hair, 569 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: um and it just happened. And then my friend or manager, 570 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: Maddie Um for many years or many years back, like 571 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: he would just jokingly call me like a shade butter 572 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: baby before I would get on stage. And so I 573 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: feel like all of it kind of like matched in 574 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 1: that studio moment, like that, were you really leaving shade 575 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: butter on niggas on purpose? Not on purpose? Not on purpose? 576 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 1: But I mean it's just like, yeah, literally right here, 577 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: she even wrote a song. I've never thought about this, 578 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: but this is how I mean when we really pillows 579 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: are out there, I mean purpose yeah, damn, I've never 580 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: thought about it, but I yeah, I destroyed so many 581 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 1: pillows just naturally, naturally because of the oils in my hair. 582 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: You know, there's all kinds of oils in there, is 583 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 1: castor oil, there's olive oil, shave butter sometimes and yeah, 584 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: stroied a lot of pillows, yeah, but not not noters 585 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: need it bad. I need it bad. But it's not 586 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: always a romantic thing. It's just you, yeah, the pillow 587 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: cases as though, because it's like all these oils and 588 00:40:47,400 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: sens it's like you get the reminisce when you know, damn, yeah, yourself, man, 589 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: She won't call me back. You wat that pillow brother, 590 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: even if she won't call you, but wash it out, 591 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: you're not coming back. Just watch it out, get over. 592 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: I don't. I just never thought of that. Never. That's 593 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: what the music does. What the music does, it travels, 594 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: It travels all of those songs and yours. Like I 595 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: said earlier, your songs are so vivid. Yeah, thank you. 596 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: That's a that that is a talent in itself. Thank you. 597 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Like we appreciate the songwriter, thank you. The vocal is 598 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: one thing. Yes, you're in a great vocal. Thank you songwriter, 599 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: because that's that's the thought process that is like, Okay, 600 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: if I say it this way, it could hit you 601 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: know a little bit, But if I said this way, 602 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: it could sting. Yeah, I think I'm a wrecked person. 603 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: So I've really sing like how I talk and how 604 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: I communicate with people. And sometimes that can be too much. 605 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's you know, just right. But yeah, if yeah, 606 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: that's a thing. But it should be unapologetic for it 607 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: should be exactly how you feel it and how you 608 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: see it. Because as the art is consumed by consumers, 609 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: you aren't necessarily creating for them. You are just you 610 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: are creating first for you, like you're just singing it, 611 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: writing it, producing it the way you feel it. They're 612 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: not in the room when you're doing that. And you 613 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it's not a gallery of people 614 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, change the lyrics or you know 615 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm singing it better. No, that's all you. 616 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: It's a painter on his east. So just all this 617 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: color will work right. Maybe maybe we'll throw some trees 618 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: right here, because some throw some trees in here and 619 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: you guys see and you can go fishing right in 620 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: here this bottom. But they're not involved in that process, 621 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: and so it should be exactly how you feel it. 622 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: And they have to decide if the art it's for 623 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: them or not. Yes, they do, Butax, you know what 624 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: it feels like. I don't think you know. I don't 625 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: think you know how big you are. I don't think 626 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: you know how influential you. I don't think you know 627 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: you know. I think you have a self worth for sure, 628 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: Yes you have that. I don't think you have the 629 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: full perspective maybe aloof for sure of like what you are, Yeah, 630 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, it's I don't know what that like 631 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: when you were talking about the beautiful girl that like 632 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: that looked like me, that are inspired when they're listening 633 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: to this music. When I was saying those things, I 634 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: literally wasn't thinking about that part. That's literally my favorite part, 635 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: Like seeing young people are like just people, just black 636 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: women that funk with what I'm doing, women that funk 637 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: with what I'm doing, and it's it's everything to me, 638 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: And that is the exciting part seeing like, um, when 639 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: I got my transcripts at Theodore Roosevelt UM, the school 640 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: that I graduated from because duke go intown and graduate 641 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: from there, I got I got, yeah, I got kicked out. 642 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: Do you meet them in football? My god, get me 643 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: in trouble? Wow? That's amazing. Congrats though, great way to 644 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: say whatever, because I'm waiting here what you're talking about football? 645 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: Our Bundy ship. But it was it was great though. 646 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: I went there to pick up my transcripts and this 647 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: I um, this beautiful girl, she had locked. She was 648 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: gorgeous and she was like are you. I was like hi, 649 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: and we had this beautiful moment and it was just 650 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: it was unmatched. Like that was like I was surprised 651 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: at someone so young, like you're in high school and 652 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: you you funk with me like I was shocked. I'd 653 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: be shocked a lot. Yeah, I'll be shocked, and I 654 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: think and I've been taking um this, it's been weird. 655 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: It's been like ten days over ten days, i haven't 656 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,919 Speaker 1: been on the internet, and I've been kind of like 657 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: forced to be outside, but um more and more like 658 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm like more outside but um, yeah, I realized that 659 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 1: is a thing that needs to happen. I've been sheltered, 660 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: sheltered in the internet world and kind of like, um, 661 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: a slave to it, like really just addicted to it. 662 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: And so I feel like I'm finally waking up and 663 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: experiencing real life and real human connections. You know, there's 664 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: nothing like really getting to know people for who they 665 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: really are and they really are and they really are 666 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: and they really are, they really are. When we met people, 667 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,879 Speaker 1: like we actually met people. You know what I'm saying. 668 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: You met, you sat down, your dance, you had a drink, 669 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You come over the house, 670 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and try to avoid their 671 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: mom and when you're running in like it was real interaction. 672 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: So getting comfortable with a person was way different. You 673 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying to you. You didn't have to 674 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 1: weed out a whole budget, you know what I'm saying. 675 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: And it's something if you knew somebody on the block 676 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 1: they had to. They had the four one one on them. 677 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: I need that, you know what I'm saying, d M 678 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: about them, and I'm done with that. You've done to 679 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 1: connect and be comfortable and have those maybe intimate moments, 680 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, without having this this this 681 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: this extra thought about motive and all of these other 682 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: things that go along with it, so you can meet 683 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,240 Speaker 1: a shady person in real life. Sure, it's just literally 684 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: people are cat fishing in different ways, like they're sometimes 685 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: they're literally not who they say, but literally I've seen 686 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: people have completely different persona online and I would ask 687 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: the person like, why don't you show the world who 688 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 1: you really are? And you know, for whatever reason, they 689 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 1: refuse to people. So many people are living a lie, 690 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,479 Speaker 1: And it's just I'd rather meet people in real life 691 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: as they are. And I feel like the only way 692 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: you can really do that is take your time, like 693 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: literally get to know people like I can't. I just 694 00:47:53,360 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: can't afford anymore shady experiences. So I've really I'm guarded. 695 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm guarded a bit more. Arts tell you so trifling. 696 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy about that. It wasn't. I was 697 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: so mesmerized, but you know, in hindsight, it wasn't. It 698 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: was not It was not all of that. But I 699 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: was so the moment. It was the moment. It was 700 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: a moment. It was a moment, it was a good time. 701 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: And then after that it wasn't that great. I was 702 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: not great. That's how it normally is, though, Yeah, it's 703 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: normally you were like, what was that? Yeah? What the 704 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: fun was that? I really really Yeah, I romanticized, but 705 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: it's always hard when you're in it, you know what 706 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: I mean, to to consider outside of it, like you 707 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: just don't. You're just in it and you're going along 708 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: for the ride. So in your mind you're going to 709 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: process it was because you wanted. Yeah, you know what 710 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Damn. Yeah, And I'm realizing it's it's clear, Yeah, 711 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: it's all of it. It's I'm falling. I'm mesmerized by 712 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 1: all of it. How fine the person is, you know, 713 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: their soul, their energy, like all of these things, you know, 714 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: and you're a lover. Yeah, I can tell you're a 715 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,919 Speaker 1: hopeless romantic cure. I'm tired. I don't want to be 716 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't think you're even don't think you're going to 717 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: be able to change it. I think you can fight 718 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 1: it as long as you want, but you are. I'm changing. 719 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: I'm changing for the better. You're not going to do 720 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: But why Okay, here's that question though, why is it? 721 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: Why is it better to not be that? Why not 722 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: hopeless romance? Because it's literally it's it's toxic, it's you're 723 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: just so hopeful, it's too much hope, too much bright eyed, naive, 724 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's said, it's so damn I love Disney, 725 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: but so damn Disney's I'm tired of being this little Cinderella. 726 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: You can be, I don't want to be together. I 727 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: think I think that na she wasn't given it nobody. 728 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: I think that you can be strong and still be 729 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: if she was. I'm trying to get out of the 730 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: Cinderella probably the other day of having fun and that's beautiful, 731 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: and that's beautiful. You can still be strong, trying to 732 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: give and hopeful. Yes, I mean hopeless, hopeless. You can hope, well, 733 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: we can say hopeless romantic, but you can still be 734 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: strong and hopeful at the same time. You can because 735 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: because I think that I'm a glass is half full 736 00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: kind of guy. Anybody that knows me will tell you that, 737 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: wow I am. I am searching for the light in 738 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 1: the dark situation, and no matter how small or dim 739 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: that light is, I'm going to rest on that light. 740 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: That's what I was supposed to get out of this, 741 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: and that's what I move on with. And so it 742 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: keeps me from one area. I'm so positive. I don't 743 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 1: want to be anymore like that. You don't want to 744 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: be positive the outlook, and it hasn't served me. I 745 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: feel like if I approach a relationship not attached to 746 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: any outcome, I think I'd be better off. I'm so 747 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: it's bad for an anxious person. Listen, I would say, 748 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, I would say, make the audit and whatever 749 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: you feel like the adjustments need to be, you make 750 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: them and see how that works. But I think ultimately 751 00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: your true self and being your true self, it's what's 752 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: going to pay off in the end. Now, somebody's going 753 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: to appreciate that a sweet, little freaking something, hey, listen, 754 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: might might be the little guy that you pay attention 755 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: at doing a little. Guys might treat you right. Yeah, 756 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: what I got, sisters. I like him, he like you 757 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: so much, he's so nice to you. I've given I've 758 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: given that though anyway, I've been open. I think I've 759 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: been too open, and now it's time to like, Okay, 760 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: there's enough of that, like I've been too to like, 761 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,959 Speaker 1: I really feel like it's I've been so lenient, even 762 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: with my standards, ridiculously so and um but now it's 763 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 1: like hell Na, like there's a there's a list now, 764 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: like and I'm wavering you mad ag, you're checking red flags. Yeah, 765 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,239 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they've got some cameras trying to catch 766 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: you somewhere with somebody. So you know, nobody's thinking. Nobody's 767 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: thinking about you. Look at Ann and uh no, no, 768 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: the Dwarf number eighth. This is this is on topic. 769 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,439 Speaker 1: They're they're all Disney, They're all Disney. All right. Um, well, yeah, 770 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: it's a different time. But as we talk about times, 771 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: as we get into times, and you are timeless, thank you, 772 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: you are too. We wanna thank you. We want to 773 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: get some information from you about your time here, okay, 774 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: on this planet and the music that you've heard, and 775 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: how resonates with you? Okay, what are your top five 776 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: R and B artists? Male or female? Oh my god? 777 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: What the fun? Yes? But do you hear? I feel 778 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: no pressure. No, it's you, it's yours. Just I'm not 779 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: going to do five. No, I'm not gonna do five. 780 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: Just we're gonna we're gonna lock the doors. Were ready 781 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: to church when it's it's funny. I can't decide. I 782 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: can't decide. I don't. I'm indecisive. When's your birthday? March 783 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: on the aries? Okay, when's your birthday? Capricorn? Capricorn? You 784 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: run the whole thing, whole thing. I don't know how that? 785 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: No idea to five? July night? July night? Oh a cancer? 786 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: Oh and I like us, like us? Top five? My 787 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: brother is a Capricorn. Um top five? Just all right, 788 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just all right. Mariah carry Um, Mini, Riperton, 789 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:31,360 Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin, why not, Um, Whitney, Houston, Fitzgerald. I can't 790 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: do this though, No, no, you're not done. No, no not. 791 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,720 Speaker 1: That's all you get. You get five. That's a powerful five. 792 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: But what about guys? You win? Females? That's fine, that's fine, 793 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: all right, that'll be cold because I don't make music 794 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 1: for dudes either, think about Oh my god, I should 795 00:55:54,239 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: I should? No, No, we're done, yours next five this 796 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: first of all, this is you. You don't have to 797 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: because hes gonna tell a story he told on another podcast. 798 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: That's crazy crazy. He recycling for us. I just tell 799 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: my truth, and they happened. I just happened to tell 800 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: them a lot. What happened? Sorry, Yeah, amazing, amazing, Top five, amazing, 801 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: top five. I know you wanted to give us a dub. 802 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 1: You probably gonna fight us later more. It's it's fine, 803 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: it's fine, but your five is amazing. Top five R 804 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: and B songs that soundtrack? What's your sound track? I 805 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Okay, between the house to you know, making love, 806 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 1: to put on your shape butter, to make you know 807 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: what already was like love. I've never been to see 808 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: it to see yeah. No, I've never made love to 809 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,919 Speaker 1: Joe to see Wow. Every everybody in the room said, wow, 810 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I don't even know how you do. I 811 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: don't even know how to do that without and just 812 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: like that down go crazy. Wait, I'm slow, what's that? Listen? 813 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 1: You're top R and B songs right now, let's go 814 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 1: all right? Um, Dion Ferris hopeless? Um, can't you see 815 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: total um Jesus with Kesha? I almost messed up her name. Yeah, 816 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: this is so hard. Why are you doing? You're almost there? 817 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm not almost there? Almost that? Okay, um y'all this 818 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: is hard shit man? How did how Uh nobody's supposed 819 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: to be here? How did you get here? Uh? Massive? 820 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: These are all songs that start hearing it in my head. 821 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: Oh grape Vine, Brownstone, Greg, Um, what am I on? Four? 822 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: You got one more to though? Oh lord? Um, y'all, 823 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: this is not unfair. This is unfair. This is evil 824 00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: what you're doing at M R and B. Oh my god. 825 00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay my last one resentment Beyonce. You gotta have a 826 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: few recording Yeah, strong list. We're all girls again. It's fine. 827 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: So what we're starting to get the message power, We're 828 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: starting You ain't ship's starting to get the message. Know, 829 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: I love Maybe we should do it together? No, I 830 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: love you. You're gonna take all women. I got it. 831 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: I hate Mary. Jake says Mary, let's go to our 832 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: taking women, Mary, Mary, Mary, I need twenty okay Mary, 833 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: Um okay, my favorite Mary song. Um that song child, 834 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: he said, it's your child, And yeah, I like that one. 835 00:59:50,560 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: You a little more that Sorry, it gets expensive. I 836 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: know you've got some bags right with you. No, it's 837 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: not that everything. It's interesting. When I started singing cut 838 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: you fellas would be lying on the ground if I 839 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,439 Speaker 1: stopped before we even get to the next thing. Though, 840 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 1: this has to this conversation has to happen. Okay, on it? Oh, yeah, 841 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: on it. I love Jasmine a lot. On it. In 842 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, is the female win. We wait, very aggressive, 843 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,959 Speaker 1: very straight to the point room record, and a lot 844 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: of women don't make songs like that. So for y'all 845 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: to make that record, it felt like it was hard. 846 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: It was always stopped. Wait what No, it was hard 847 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: getting Jasmine too to be freaky because she's she's she 848 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 1: don't want to be she don't want to get nasty. 849 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: And I said, come on, you have to. She wanted 850 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: to change it a little bit. I said, no, spit 851 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: on it, sit on it, and I had I had 852 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: to just gently say it has to be this way 853 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: like it. It has to be this way, like you know, 854 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: you can't change it, you can't do this like we 855 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: have a great hype. That's amazing. Women need a friend, like, 856 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know if you have a friend, 857 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:59,560 Speaker 1: but you need a friend. I wanna keep your man, 858 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: talk about you a friend like her home girl. It 859 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: has to be this way, yes, but it wasn't. It 860 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: wasn't vile. No, it wasn't on it than a esay no, 861 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: because you hear keep going yeah, yes, we don't want 862 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: to drive, we don't want to dry bites, okay whatever. Yeah, 863 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:45,880 Speaker 1: it was about yeah, yeah, you're right. It was you 864 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 1: receive You received the message from different people differently. Right. 865 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 1: The vessel is very important in terms of the transfer 866 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:05,479 Speaker 1: of information, and so when you sang that, it felt right, 867 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: thank you. It didn't feel like why is she sicking that? 868 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:20,439 Speaker 1: It felt like hallelujah, halle hallelujah. The fact that y'all 869 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: was right because you can get that off sometimes on 870 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 1: something I'm just gonna get freaky and it's just gonna 871 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: be whatever it is. But to actually be singing it 872 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 1: put vibrato. Yeah, it is a heritage fellowship. It had 873 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,800 Speaker 1: so much soul and spit because for me, for I mean, 874 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: I think for us as a collective, like sex is 875 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: not just sex right for I then talk about everybody 876 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: in this room. Is what we do sexist, it's making 877 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 1: it's spiritual. Yeah, it has to be a certain spiritual 878 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,600 Speaker 1: tone connected to in order to that for that to 879 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,320 Speaker 1: be a proper connection. If we are in exchanging souls, 880 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: we're not doing this the right way. We're not intertwined, right, 881 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 1: We're not doing it the right way. Yeah, okay, I'm sorry. 882 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 1: And if you're not, only you're not doing it right. 883 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:30,680 Speaker 1: Shout out to Jasmine Sellivan that amazing, amazing record things 884 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, some of your system off that. Thank you 885 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: so much. I love doing it. I love it so 886 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 1: much from my favorite songs. And shout out to Cardiac 887 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: he produced it produced when it's beautiful. Wow, damn you're connected. Yeah, 888 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: you make some sexy songs, Tank and you sound it's 889 01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: church sex. Yes, it really is sex. The church's church 890 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: section church sex for sure. Sex for sure. It's it's 891 01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: sneaking in, sticking in the basement or somewhere on the 892 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 1: pews at the church. Yeah, sometimes you got to wait. 893 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 1: You did that before. What I want to get from you. 894 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I was in the I was listen, man, who is 895 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you doing? I don't want to talk about church market 896 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 1: the basement. You know what I'm saying. Listen, when you 897 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: are in church all the time, this is where this 898 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: is where you lived in church. Biggest freaks in the house. 899 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:49,000 Speaker 1: So it's my house. I'm his house. The church is 900 01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: the building where all the houses congregated. But okay, come on, 901 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: come on, past come on listen. I remember someone took 902 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: me to a church time ago, right, and I'm watching 903 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm watching the mannarisms of the pastor, and in my head, 904 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't say this out loud, but I'm going it 905 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 1: is giving. This is what I'm feeling, right. It is 906 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: because I want to say he said, I know that 907 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: I may not know. I don't know Blonians. Yeah, and um, 908 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: we're building an R and B votron. Okay, so we 909 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: need to know who you're getting the vocals from, who 910 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: you're getting the performance style from, who you're getting the 911 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 1: styling from, and who you're getting the passion from the 912 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: heart of the artist. So let's start at the beginning. 913 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: The voice. Who you getting the vocals from to build 914 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: your R and B artist? Oh, I'm creating from scratch, 915 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, vocal who's folk? Easy bank, Who's focal. 916 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Maybe Etta James, maybe so stirring. I want that growl, 917 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: so stirring that Rice. Rice has been thrown on sha Yeah, 918 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 1: she like a growling singing like Fantasia, Oh my gosh, anointed, 919 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: like chilling, American's idol, American idol. You talk about crying, 920 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, for no reason. She just nerves everything. 921 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 1: She was the best singers ever, She's everything. Okay, who 922 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,439 Speaker 1: are you getting the performance style from? Well? One day, 923 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 1: I would like to really get comfortable. I always imagine 924 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 1: myself or sorry, the person this is a person is 925 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: the person that we're creating. Okay, it has nothing to 926 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 1: do with me then, all right, so um prince, Yeah 927 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: you just see the perfect stand. Yeah yeah, always, I 928 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 1: feel like he's just all He's commands that stage such 929 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,639 Speaker 1: a start, he commends in every facet and I don't 930 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 1: even I don't even know what this's on purpose. I 931 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: just think he just did whatever the funk came to 932 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: his mind. This is how I feel. There should be 933 01:08:54,600 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: no back to these chains and did it? Man? Yeah? Yeah, yes, 934 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: what did they call chap? Chaps? Man? I don't know. 935 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna sit on this horse, asshole Nick 936 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,960 Speaker 1: did he do that? I know that Furst was sticking 937 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 1: the ship out of the he was sitting on a 938 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: horse naked prints. Here we go. Who are you getting 939 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: the styling from styling? Um? Do you want your artists 940 01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: to look like wow? Oh, look like or dressed like 941 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 1: that ship? I dressed like like you know, well the style. 942 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: I really like Kyle, Rihanna and Kylie dress. I think 943 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 1: they're Kylie Jenner and Rihanna. I think they're some of 944 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: the fliest women ever. I don't know or to me, 945 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: I just fun with their stuff. I want to dress 946 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,720 Speaker 1: like that. It never really works out that way, but 947 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: I want what I want to But how I wanted 948 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 1: to look. I guess she's a girl. Um, I want 949 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:09,800 Speaker 1: her to look like um me, I guess okay, maybe 950 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: that's okay now sorry me with like forcey hair, that 951 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: would be cool, Yes, beautiful kinky afro hair. Who are 952 01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: you getting the passion from the heart of this artist? Passion? 953 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,599 Speaker 1: What do you mean in terms of delivery? Delivery? How 954 01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,400 Speaker 1: you feel it? Phil? Who makes me feel? Which one 955 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 1: of all the artists you've named? Who are you going 956 01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 1: to take the emotion from fantasia? Yeah? Because like us 957 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:55,639 Speaker 1: oh my god, I wish everybody, yes, that woman is annointed. 958 01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,600 Speaker 1: She's a preacher saying, and I purposely I wouldn't go 959 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,320 Speaker 1: out and watch her performer. I couldn't. I couldn't take 960 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: that every night. I couldn't. I couldn't dedicate my life 961 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 1: to the Lord I do. When I'm on stage with Jasmine, 962 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan, so I'm so mesmerized. I damn 963 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 1: never forget what the fun I'm here. I'm chills. I've 964 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: never felt that was someone before on stage. Literally, she 965 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: gives me so much chills just being that close to 966 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:33,880 Speaker 1: her and hearing her. It's crazy monsters. People with that 967 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of vocal will definitely derail any intentions that you 968 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: went out through. It happened to me with oh my God, 969 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:48,520 Speaker 1: oh my god. It was supposed to be a duet. 970 01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't quite an it was Melana Adams. And it 971 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: wasn't that I didn't know what to do. I just 972 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. Yeah, I couldn't do anything. I was 973 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 1: standing there like, yeah, I'm gonna change my life. Like 974 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:14,440 Speaker 1: the building, the entire built that was wild when I 975 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 1: experienced this is online if the entire when I say 976 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:26,759 Speaker 1: building was shaking. Yeah, she's everything. It's like it's like that. 977 01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:32,760 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, not even close. It's like that, Yeah, 978 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:36,800 Speaker 1: I need I need this, I need this from my soul. Um. 979 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: We got we got one more thing for you women. Yeah, 980 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 1: we got. We gotta a little part of the show. 981 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 1: It's a it's ain't saying on that. Oh my lord, 982 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:51,080 Speaker 1: what the hell the story? What the is this? Yeah, yeah, 983 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,759 Speaker 1: that's exactly what it is. Funnier fucked up are funny 984 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: and funny and fucked up either one. Just a story 985 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 1: and it's just you just don't include no that sames 986 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 1: in it. Just of your travels, of my travels, you 987 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. When you were just like when 988 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: you you know, you literally was just saying like yo, 989 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 1: that was wow, this ship. I can't believe this ship. 990 01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, of my travels, y'all. I don't know, 991 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: because it could be before the industry, could be in 992 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the industry, could be whatever. But it's just you know, 993 01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 1: a story that you just don't you don't put you know, 994 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 1: you put nobody else name in it, say no names, 995 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 1: look at you and while you're telling the story, but 996 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 1: tell that story about me. You ain't saying no names. 997 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad. I shouldn't tell this. Okay, so bad, 998 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 1: it's good. Oh it's not good. I can't even tell 999 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 1: you the whole thing. I just can't say no names, 1000 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: just say you know names. It's this guy. He says 1001 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,680 Speaker 1: something so mean to me at a festival once, with 1002 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 1: a smile on his face, and I was like, did 1003 01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,880 Speaker 1: you really just say that? And he was just like, yeah, 1004 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: I just said that. Can't even tell you what he said, 1005 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: because it was the worst thing anyone's ever said to me, 1006 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 1: one of the worst things. And I was I walked 1007 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: away and I was like, I can't say it. I'm 1008 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: embarrassed because it's it's so bad, it's terrible. It was 1009 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: so mean and it wasn't true, it was it was 1010 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 1: just it was so sad. Um was there, right? Um? 1011 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 1: So I leave and I told my friend, you know what, 1012 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight him. She was like, she was like no, 1013 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: and she would not let me out the door. I've 1014 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: superhuman strength, pushed her out the way, went out the 1015 01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,080 Speaker 1: stairs to find him, didn't see him, and went outside 1016 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to find him. Didn't see him. Then I catch him 1017 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: in the hallway and three piece of yeah, and his 1018 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,840 Speaker 1: friend was so shocked. He he was about to square 1019 01:14:54,920 --> 01:15:02,960 Speaker 1: up right, he was work by girls. It happened so fast, 1020 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 1: but I needed to do piece. That's what the security said. 1021 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't remember much. Are you black? Pretty much? But 1022 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,200 Speaker 1: I know I landed on the space. You know what. Yeah, 1023 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 1: that might be the unexpected, that might be one of 1024 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 1: the best. Really understand those names because it's so unexpected, 1025 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: so funny. Look how you're telling so it's really yeah, 1026 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I just had to tell them what you did and 1027 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 1: tell them what you did. Yeah, it was that's amazing. 1028 01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Really No, no, no, I'm not No, no, I don't 1029 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: want to create this delusion that I'm an amazing fighter. 1030 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 1: I don't want people to come up to you just 1031 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 1: you just had a great moment and it should be celebrated. 1032 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful Mari three piece, But I don't want 1033 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,880 Speaker 1: to be fighting. People know you're gonna been gonna take 1034 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: this nickname the three piece. The three piece is security right. 1035 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,679 Speaker 1: Security is prevention right, And so when they hear three piece, 1036 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna know I am not a fighter. I am 1037 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: not a violent person in a relationship. This is not 1038 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,240 Speaker 1: like I'm not going around punching mabu. This this was 1039 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,720 Speaker 1: just disrespect. It was it was just it was like 1040 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 1: this it felt like a reality show, like it was 1041 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 1: unreal what he said to me. It was like, I'm 1042 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 1: so nice. Why are you being me? I like how 1043 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 1: you came to the decision though, Yeah, I'm going to 1044 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: fight him. Yeah, I was sure I should fight him. 1045 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I was sure I should. You proceed to get to 1046 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: it is. That is admirable because disrespect has to be 1047 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 1: met with. You gonna learn to respect me. I always 1048 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 1: doesn't always, but some people need to know he did 1049 01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: because that was wild. Some people need to know. We 1050 01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:34,640 Speaker 1: believe in that A three piece Linux we are. We 1051 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 1: are elated that you stopped by to give us a 1052 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:46,440 Speaker 1: little bit of your time, a little bit of your energy, um, 1053 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 1: a little bit of your gift insight, where you've been, 1054 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,000 Speaker 1: where you're going. This was beautiful and we encourage you. 1055 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,519 Speaker 1: Thank you with with all that you have and with 1056 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 1: all that you can keep going. Please keep going. Will 1057 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop being We're gonna keep supporting Strange. Thank you. 1058 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the comments. Yeah, he gonna definitely 1059 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 1: be in the college. I'm working on it. You work 1060 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:23,840 Speaker 1: with you and you anytime do this available. I would 1061 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 1: love that time of the day, already thinking about the 1062 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: next project. Right, that's expensive. That looks ex vocals. What 1063 01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: you have you can't saying you can't get on that. Yeah, 1064 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: what we're doing, don't play with no vocals that I'm 1065 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,120 Speaker 1: sorry for accident. That's fine. Fine, A couple, got a 1066 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:51,280 Speaker 1: couple more here, you're a couple more. Wow, that looks 1067 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: like a very This is the place where you get sing. Yeah. Yeah, 1068 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 1: I would love that and enjoy yourself. So anytime we 1069 01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 1: are available to you, and because you too, Okay, I'm serious, No, 1070 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I need y'all. I mentioned it on my live and 1071 01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:13,479 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I love that. But the music is insane. 1072 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Tank and this has 1073 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 1: been the R and B Money Podcast with the amazing 1074 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 1: R Money. R and B Money is a production of 1075 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,559 Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcast Network. For more podcasts from I 1076 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the R Heart Radio Apple Apple Podcast, 1077 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you're listening to your favorite shows. Don't forget 1078 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,439 Speaker 1: to subscribe to and rate our show, and you can 1079 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,720 Speaker 1: connect with us on social media via at R and 1080 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,720 Speaker 1: B Money podcast or at the Real Tank or at 1081 01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:02,640 Speaker 1: ja Valentine