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Speaker 1: co host the podcast teen Creeps. We talked about why

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Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, well you are on

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Speaker 1: about this because she mentioned seeing a young person playing

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Speaker 1: I spent so much money on this. I tried returning it.

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Speaker 1: whatever he gets, he has to like swim in footies

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Speaker 1: for all the characters. I'm not everybody in High and

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Speaker 1: High maintenance. She she's she's doing a reprise, baby, and

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this in season two. Uh please welcome shouting.

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Speaker 1: I'm so bad at taking compliments, but thank you so much. Well,

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Speaker 1: this thing is like when you have like a storied

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Speaker 1: you've done, You've done the work. You're taking on the work,

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Speaker 1: so you know what. You sit there and you take this.

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Speaker 1: I demand it. I demand that. Well, whenever I have

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Speaker 1: someone that I really respected, like when Tammy Saker came in,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Scott Jones is very deaf. He's very deaf. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do it, and then somehow got back to his mom,

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00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: and his mom then called my mom, and my mom

427
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: was Matt's like, why did you make Mike Pizzy faint?

428
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, Mike Izzy, Sorry, I keep

429
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: saying Pizzy. It's not it's my it's Pusy, it's Mike Izzy.

430
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: And I was like that sounds weird, and then I

431
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: was like it was. I was like, he instigated it.

432
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: I was like I did it. But it's like we

433
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: both are equally at fault. Where is he? What do

434
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 1: we know what he's doing? I do not know his mom.

435
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: His parents still live in the neighborhood in the same house.

436
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Um uh, like text every now and then. We've kind

437
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: of lost touch, but it's still like we can text

438
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: each other. I don't think I have any friends from

439
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: like elementary school. I have one. I have one listener

440
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: from middle school. Claire Canary and by the way back

441
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: in the day, she was like, she was like hanging

442
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: with the cool kids, and it was like, okay, she's untouchable.

443
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: I can't really like there's no like social thing here.

444
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: But like every now and then she'll be like, I

445
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: just listened to the episode so funny. I'm like, you

446
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: were like, which is just? Which is sweet? In the end,

447
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, guys. Yeah, he's smacking

448
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: his lips. My best friend from when I was in

449
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 1: kindergarten in first grade. His name, his first name was Billy.

450
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: I will not say his full name because that would

451
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: we discovered at the same time Celine Dion and Mariah

452
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Carry and all the pop What we would do is

453
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: we would sit in his room and just listen and

454
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: listen to listen, and you know who he was obsessed

455
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: with as a kindergartener. No, I was obsolution. He didn't

456
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: like Shannaia actually, and it was a source of contention.

457
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: He loved Robin, who was at the time she yes,

458
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: show me my Number one its song growing up. Yeah,

459
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: so Robin dancing on my own. Robin was a pop

460
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 1: star in kindergarten. Well, like we could debate, I will

461
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: look it up. I guarantee it was not that long,

462
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: al right. Not. All I'm knowing is all I can

463
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 1: tell you is that six when I was this age

464
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 1: in first grade, let's say like this kid was obsessed

465
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: with Robin and I never got Robin. But what I'm

466
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: saying is sorry, my question is And then after that

467
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: he kind of became like like sort of like a swaggy,

468
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: kind of like white kid who was like like like

469
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 1: a little eminem kid the worst like and he kind

470
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: of masculinized and like started to wear like the flat

471
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: brim hats and started to get very like you know,

472
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: this is in first grade he started doing this. Was

473
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: like he started to do this in like fourth fifth

474
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: grade as we kind of separated and then I moved away,

475
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 1: but I lost touch with him. And I want to know,

476
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: do you think the fact that at five years old,

477
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: you're instinct is to worship Celine Dion that that says

478
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: something about you and your essence is billy gay. This

479
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: is tough, and is he my sul mate? I'm not

480
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: the right person now because because when I was five

481
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: and worshiping Celendion, I was in Montreal, where that was

482
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: like you had to do right. You don't know you

483
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: had to do that if you read it. Where's this

484
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: that it feels like he started to rebel from his instincts. Yes,

485
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: whether it's a I don't think I wouldn't be able

486
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: to attach sexuality to it, but I think at least

487
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: maybe there was some he started to feel ashame of

488
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: what he really enjoyed that so he could be he

489
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: could still be a straight guy. But there's some strangaun't

490
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: some repression of like, oh I can't like this because

491
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: that means I'm something else. I'm a doesn't. Our second

492
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: Gary teacher literally shamed us because we both knew all

493
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: the words to tell him by sleep and we wrote

494
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: it down to you. She she was like, all right

495
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: out and here's the thing instead of okay, this is

496
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: fucked up, because this is a deep revealing thing about myself.

497
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: So we would have like journal time and instead of

498
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: writing my own stories, I would write down all the

499
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: lyrics to like Mariah Carey songs and Mariah carry songs

500
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 1: back like at that time they were actually the vocabulary

501
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: she used like was actually kind of what's my favorite thing?

502
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: She still uses crazy like like she used words like

503
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: incessantly and nonchalantly and like all these things that I

504
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: knew these words from Mariah Carey, and so I would

505
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: literally just verbade him write the lyrics to her songs

506
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: because I loved them so much. And my teacher one

507
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: day said, you're not at this level of The second

508
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: grade teacher was like, I have to read this one

509
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: thing that matt wrote. And she's like she read the

510
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: words to tell him out loud and billy and I

511
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: had written it again the whole class. I was like, no,

512
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: and it was fully like a love song about a

513
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: man to the whole class. To the whole class, she

514
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: did this and it was just so embarrassing. And then

515
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: I remember I moved to a different school, not because

516
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: of that, but I moved to my next school that

517
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: I went to. I did the same thing in third grade,

518
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: and my teacher, Miss patruly like found she found the

519
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: lyrics to like emotions by Mariah Carrey, like in my

520
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: in my book. And she would write notes back and

521
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: she was like, Matthew, this story is so beautiful. She

522
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: obviously wasn't like a Mariah fa okay, were you just

523
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: she was like, this is so beautiful. You're so advanced,

524
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: like the feeling in this poem is incredible and it

525
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: was like literally like Mariah at twenty four, like her

526
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: I had of her pop stardom. You wait, can you

527
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: look back at the first experience where you say you

528
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: felt like you were ashamed? Can you replay that in

529
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: your mind? And was it her? It was just feel

530
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: like a leading question, like it was her shaming you

531
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: or was it her? Like surprised by it, but like

532
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: you were, you were embarrassed, so you felt like it

533
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 1: was shamed, but maybe she was celebrating you can you

534
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: can you look at its definitely her being like, let

535
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: me read this out loud because I think it's funny.

536
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: I think she thought it was funny, and I remember

537
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: everyone was laughing and we were laughing too, and I

538
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: was like, it's a song, it's a song, and she

539
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: was like, okay, whatever. But I remember she remember like

540
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: funny to her, but funny to kindergarteners is going to

541
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: be like different. And I feel like, looking back, should

542
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: she have done that? But shaming of teachers? But this kid, yeah,

543
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: you don't forget no, and they're often they do it often.

544
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: I remember that's I had a teacher who after the

545
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: Columbine shooting. Well, she was very affected by the Columbine shooting.

546
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: And she made us stand in a circle and hold

547
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: hands and sing the song hands by jewel my hands,

548
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: but they're not. We had to do this, that's beautiful.

549
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: And then weeks wearing trench coats. The weeks later when

550
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: we were bad at recess, you're bad at recess. We

551
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: were bad at but bad behavior during Yeah, we didn't

552
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: do recess right. We were badly behaved at reese. And

553
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: the lunch monitor that would like help us, like play

554
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: you or whatever, like facilitate us like having a recess

555
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: came back and said, this is what's happening. And then

556
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: my teacher came back. And only looking back now do

557
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: I realize how funked up from Columbine she must have been,

558
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: because she was like, you know, this is exactly how

559
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: Columbine happened, but what was your behavior? I think we

560
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: were like I think we were like not listening to

561
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: one person who wanted to play something different. I mean,

562
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: what could it possibly have been. It couldn't have been crazy,

563
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: but she literally and then now looking back, I'm like,

564
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: she was obviously a very scared teacher. She was just

565
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: was shaken and emotional about the fact that this happened

566
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: in the school and wanted so badly us to like

567
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: be part of the change. And she was just I

568
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: think she was emotionally she was very jarred and still

569
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: feeling after shocks. But my question is, going back to

570
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: the Mariah lyrics, would you just write the lyrics down?

571
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Bat You wouldn't even not an original creative on the pain,

572
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: no filler, Like it wasn't like other characters dialogue. Then,

573
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: so you wrote the lyrics down and then you that

574
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 1: passed as a story to your team because she didn't

575
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: know what it was from and it was I just

576
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: she just maybe she just wasn't a Mariah fan, so

577
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: she then thought it was so when she read it,

578
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: she thought it was the first one the first teacher

579
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: to the second teacher. The second the first teacher, I

580
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: think she didn't look into it as much. She kind

581
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: of just shamed me and moved on. But the third,

582
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: the third grade teacher, I had was like fully praising

583
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: me from my there's no narrative arc to you just

584
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: writing down like nothing in the second person was poems. Yeah,

585
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: she just thought they were like these incredible poems that

586
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: are right. I was right, And you wrote like You've

587
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: got me feeling emotions deeper than I ever dreamed of,

588
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: higher than heavens about it happens above higher. You know

589
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: the way to make me lose control when you're looking

590
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: into my eyes? Did you make me feel so if

591
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: you really think about it, it's fucked up. It's a nail.

592
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: That's a great that's a perfect sketch. That is great.

593
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: But and this is the thing that this is the

594
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: thing about Maria that I think people haven't fully zoned

595
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: and not like like like zoomed in on. Is the

596
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: reason she has such a funny vocabulary in her lyrics

597
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: is because she's an adverb queen. Even in um, get

598
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: the funk out, she goes my Prince was so unjustly handsome, incessantly,

599
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: she's always using vocab. Yeah, inevitably like she loves to

600
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: end on al y words. So she's an adverb queen.

601
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: That's specifically I want to be the first person to

602
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: say on recorded media that Mariah Carey is an adverb queen. Also,

603
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: like the weird words like and like always a maybe

604
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: where she's like, You'll always be a part of me,

605
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: and definitely definitely. It's like it definitely, but it works,

606
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: it works well, it works well. Okay, Um, Shannon, I

607
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: think this is the time in the show where we

608
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: ask you the question we ask all of our guests

609
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: because clearly now we're talking about our cultures. Cultures. Yeah,

610
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: And I was that's not my culture. It's like Mariah,

611
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: but I don't. I was like, oh, that's not the

612
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: music I listened to when I was up, But it

613
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: listened to a lot of music. That's fine. It could

614
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: it could be. It could be the pistol Pete thing.

615
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: But what was the culture that made you say? Culture?

616
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Was for me, the culture that made you move into

617
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: a cultural direction? Um, it would be Um Letterman. Yeah,

618
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: like Carson, Like Carson Letterman. I used to Letterman. Yeah,

619
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: just definitely because he was Um. I liked um watching Carson, Uh,

620
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: because he was a good interviewer and like I would

621
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: love specific guess that he would have on like Joan Embree,

622
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: who was like a zoologist from the San Diego Zoo.

623
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: I love like certain segments, Um, but I would I

624
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: was always allowed to stay up on Fridays to watch Letterman. Um.

625
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: When we finally got a VCR, I could record it,

626
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: but I would sneak down because I knew my mom

627
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: would watch Carson and I should be in bed, So

628
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: I would sneak down and sit on the top of

629
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: the stays because she would fall asleep on the couch um.

630
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: So Carson would end and then Letterman would start, so

631
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: I could sit there and watch Letterman as long until

632
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: like she would start to stir, and then I would

633
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: gently ros and go back to bed. So that was

634
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: like a thing where I would like sneak my my Letterman,

635
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: my Letterman viewing, because that's very much like I think,

636
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: like my my comedic kind of like way of thinking

637
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: is like like being sarcastic, like how he doesn't pull

638
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: punches and like his little man on the street stuff.

639
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: It was all just like I was like, what is this?

640
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: This is awesome? Well, Lettermen like Carson like established like

641
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: formative norms I guess now in late night. But like

642
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Letterman was someone who like lead with tone right, like

643
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I feel like like people want to sound like him,

644
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: Like it affected people's other people's communic voices in this

645
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: way that like it was like chances. Letterman very much

646
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: like just took like big swings to see if something

647
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: would would work, and I think Carson was just like

648
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: set and nailing it but didn't need to like mean anything,

649
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: where Carson was like kind of I mean a Letterman

650
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is him fighting to stay alive

651
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: because he already had one show canceled on him. So right,

652
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: I almost feel like Colbert is the worthy successor to

653
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Letterman because Colbert doesn't ever like he never um would

654
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: sacrifice like his sense of humor or his intelligence in

655
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: the same way as Letterman, whereas like with Fallon Now

656
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like in the same vein as

657
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: Carson and you know Jay Leno before him, where it's

658
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: leads with the fun and it's about like being a

659
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: late night show, whereas like Letterman is like David Letterman,

660
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's it's the tone is set and

661
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: it's like his show, whereas like it's the Tonight Show,

662
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: whereas that was Letterman. Now it's you know what I mean.

663
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: But even with Late Night, it was like late Night

664
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: with because I watched Late Night, which was maybe before

665
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: your time. Yeah, late Night was after Carson, so I

666
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: was watching until two and then two he moved to

667
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Okay CBS. Yeah, so he was twelve thirty slot until

668
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: I believe ninety two I might be a little off.

669
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: And then he moved to at UM CBS, and Conan

670
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: felt like the right successor to Letterman. Yes, Late Night, Yes,

671
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: but Letterman, I thought, I will give credit to Letterman

672
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: as being a great interviewer as well. Yeah, oh yeah,

673
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: especially even towards the end. I think I don't know, well,

674
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: like just he never was worried about the guests feelings.

675
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes the parents interview, yes, Paris interview, or there's one

676
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: before that that um shit, that's fair faucet down with that.

677
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: That's like, that is legendary. Okay, can you give like

678
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: a play by play? I can't. It's like it's just

679
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: someone who is clearly on something, just under the influence

680
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: and out there doing an interview and it was bananas.

681
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: It's legendary. And then there's the Drew Barrymore in view

682
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: where she flashed. There's like, I mean, Late Night has

683
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: all these like, um is it like the oh gosh

684
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: is it not? The um throws the oh he threw

685
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: water at Letterman. It's why is it escaping my head?

686
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: He's been he was banned after that, right, and he

687
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: and the Letterman have famously had a thing with Oprah

688
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: and then the share share thing to share oh yeah,

689
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: he had to make he basically like with like, which

690
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I love about Letterman because he can like admit too false,

691
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: which I think is very important for any human to

692
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, I was abrasive. And then it's

693
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: like and then him and Oprah now can like do

694
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: interviews together, and it was like, yeah, and share an

695
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: asshole to like one on on on air, which makes

696
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: you like both of them. Who was who has done

697
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: that to Jimmy Fallon? He was you know, So it's like,

698
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: which is fine, that's like that tone, but like I

699
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, Letterman is just like what is wrong

700
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: with you? Like I will call it out? Yeah, I

701
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's very like I roll to say,

702
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: but like I kind of you miss that last you

703
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: don't because you don't see people taking risks anymore. Like Honestly, nowadays,

704
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: I feel like celebrities, if there's gonna be anything questionable

705
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: going on during an interview, they just don't go. You

706
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Because I think now with social

707
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: media and being able to be on the Internet the

708
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: next day and you can watch and watch and watch.

709
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: You can control your own narrative all the time. Like

710
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: Trump will ever do another interview like want but not

711
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: not right, but like there would be a time, there

712
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: would be a point in time where we would demand that,

713
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: whereas like just to hear answers or whatever. But now

714
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: it's just like because any celebrity, like you see it

715
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: with Kanye West, you know what I mean, he tries

716
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: he's out there controlling his own narrative or attempting to

717
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: all the time. So they don't feel the need to

718
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: like need these shows anymore. So you don't see those

719
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: kinds of iconic interactions. The only way you get is

720
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: like Eric Andre where he like like you know, has

721
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: to like punk them a little bit to like put

722
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: make them on comfortable, but it's really not about them.

723
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: It's about like having rats pop out. Yeah, so you're

724
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: seeing them actually react to something that's not you know,

725
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: they're it's not in their control totally, which is like yeah,

726
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: we totally it's so missing. But now it's just like okay, Well,

727
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: like the way that there's like segment producers for each

728
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: interview that like like do you have a funny story

729
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: to tell? Oh, we'll tell that, Oh that that's that's perfect.

730
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: That'll be great. So Seth will lead you with I'm

731
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: not saying this as an example, but it's like Seth

732
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: will just ask you this and then that will be

733
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: your que to go into this. It's like it feels

734
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: choreographed in a way that like could be loosened a

735
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, we need to listen it up. Yeah,

736
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: but he's the best. Now that's that's hard to say.

737
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: They're also different. I mean, I think Seth Myers does

738
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: do a good interview, like he's really he's really great

739
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: at interviewing people and I think pulling fun stuff out

740
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: of them. But I also don't watch enough to have

741
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: an opinion. I mean, Seth, the last thing I can

742
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: remember is Kelly Ann being on Sethway Conway, and that

743
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: is great. Um, But then the last person who like

744
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: truly like would like have no problem in embarrassing their

745
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: guests if they deserved it was like John Stewart, and

746
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: even that is like, I don't know. That's also like

747
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: not not on the same level as Letterman, where I

748
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: can get you don't get it the way you want it,

749
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: but like I can, you can still get a little

750
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: bit if you watch UM Thursday Night UM Basketball on

751
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: like Barkley and Shack, because they are they bust each

752
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: other all the time, so you can get that thing

753
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: of like, oh, they're all being vulnerable and allowing each

754
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: other to like shoot on each other and bust each

755
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: other's balls, which is like you just want that, but

756
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: you have to get people that are okay with it.

757
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: It's like podcasts now, like you get it, like you

758
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: to bust each other's balls and it's fun and you're

759
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: vulnerable and that's what's fun. But like to have always

760
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: have guests be able to do that. It's the ones

761
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: that you want to you know, you know, it's really

762
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: it's you know. My dad points it out like this

763
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: was like two years ago. I was at home and

764
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: I was watching RuPaul's Drag Race and he was like

765
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: watching it and I was like, oh God, what is

766
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: he going to say about this? And he went to

767
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: a commercial and he was like, they're so honest with

768
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: each other, and I was like, that's such an interesting pull.

769
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: It's an interesting to take from it. Like he didn't

770
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: have anything to say about like how they were acting

771
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: or like or like you know, what they were wearing anything.

772
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm impressed by how direct they are

773
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: with each other, and it is that thing of like

774
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, like with drag obviously it's just like they

775
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: say whatever the funk they want. But true honesty now

776
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: is sort of and true dialogue and forcing each other

777
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: to be honest. I think it's why people are obsessed

778
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: with all these like um reality shows, is because like

779
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: you don't actually see real dialogue, especially on news programs,

780
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. I I try to

781
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: watch a lot of them now, and it's like, if

782
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: they're not screaming at each other, it's a bunch of

783
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: people that think the same thing, and so it's something

784
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: that would never make it to like the next days

785
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: like clip on Twitter where everyone sees it exactly, it's like,

786
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: oh there's let's form an opinion around them, and you

787
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: get those tiny moments, and those moments do go viral,

788
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: like when Lauren Duca threw it back at Tucker Carlson. Yeah,

789
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean that was like so fierce. But I think

790
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: what it stuck out because we're like, that's not like

791
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: that's not late night, that's not like right now, it's

792
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: not late night anyway, And that just puts people. They're like,

793
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: oh no, it's like, oh now that Lauren Duca did that.

794
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: Now everyone's gonna be like, we have to change how

795
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: we have you know, book our guests. Yeah. Then they're

796
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: just afraid of it happening again, because the worst thing

797
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: you can do is look stupid. That sucks. That sucks.

798
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: That sucks. It sucks. Do you just want to say

799
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: the Paris Interview, The Paris Interview genius just like by

800
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: the like by like the middle, she like loses her patient.

801
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to talk about this being

802
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: in prison anymore. And he goes, okay, okay, and then um,

803
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: someone screams from the audience, I love your pars and

804
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: then she goes. And then the letterman goes somebody met

805
00:41:54,239 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: in prison, and the entire audience explode, like like, so

806
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: he's so good. You have to be so like because

807
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: even in like whenever we interview someone that's like that

808
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: makes us a little nervous, like you really do have

809
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: to be so good at what you do to stay

810
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: the course, and something like that, especially with something like

811
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: Parasilon at the time, was huge. So like anyone else

812
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: I feel like would have just backed off or but

813
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: like I can't ask her that it's embarrassing. But he's

814
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: not in he was not ever in a position where

815
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: he like I don't want to say cared enough. But

816
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: it was just like he is the king of late night.

817
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: It's like if she never wants to come back, it's okay,

818
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: It's like what do you want? You know, and we'll

819
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: have many other guests and it's like that's where like

820
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: Leno took over um control when he got Hugh Grant

821
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: after his infamous blow job, so like he he booked

822
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: Hugh Grant and that was like he had to ask

823
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: that question. So Jay Leno like has Hugh Grant after

824
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: he got caught getting a BJ and then was like

825
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: asking him and it's like that's where like there was

826
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: like this kind of like it like honesty and like

827
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: really asking guests the right thing is like what was

828
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: making people the king of late night? And then it

829
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: probably still applies though if someone were to just do

830
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: that and break the ceilon that's too much though there's

831
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: too much TV for I mean, I don't really even

832
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: know who's running in the ratings. Yeah, I believe that

833
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: Colbert is a little bit is still ahead. I mean, yeah,

834
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: but I can't imagine there had Oh yeah, I've read

835
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: We've read the trains, Honey, we get the trains. And honestly,

836
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: you know who's like I always we talked about this

837
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: all the time, and we've been talking about this since

838
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast by Allen, I mean, like,

839
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 1: I can't with Allen, like I can't watch I can't

840
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: with Allen because there's been too many times where it's

841
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: just been like, no, this guy is just a douchebag,

842
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: and that might just be it. And I think she

843
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: sometimes feels bad for people that are as famous as

844
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: her um and I think she's gen when Lee went

845
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: through one of the hardest things that a celebrity has

846
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: gone the thirty years, and I do respect and admire

847
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: her strength through that, But I don't necessarily think all

848
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: the same rules applies to the people that she gives

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Speaker 1: apology platforms. They have they earned that platform. No, And

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Speaker 1: And so it's just like I don't know, like I

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Speaker 1: And then there's these moments where it's like, no, actually,

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Speaker 1: Yeah he's disconnected. Yeah he doesn't. There's no worries, Like,

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880
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Speaker 1: where you're at. Yeah, and but to be honest, I

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Speaker 1: and like, yeah, and that's okay, and that's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember could be better. I think people are often

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Speaker 1: You gotta do other stuff? Like this is a great

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Speaker 1: That is and I see people probably think, like you

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Speaker 1: It's like any creative goal. It's like anything anything you said.

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Speaker 1: It's like you get that thing and then you realize

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Speaker 1: Like I remember, want more but not but don't expect

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Speaker 1: someone else to give it to exactly. Yeah, it's that's

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1059
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: take a while, Like don't compare yourself to to Zach

1060
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: Woods or or Aubrey Plaza. Well, the best thing, that's

1061
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: the best thing you can get out of rejection is

1062
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: just to strip away your sense of entitlement on That's

1063
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: that like, that's that's probably the lesson that I took

1064
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: away from Lloyd Auditions. Every year that I would do that,

1065
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, I don't I don't deserve,

1066
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,959
Speaker 1: Like it's not deserve yeah, yeah, yeah, it just wasn't

1067
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: really I actually had. It's not a perfect system. It

1068
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: never and it never can never can be. But then

1069
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: also like you go to you go to like weekend

1070
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: shows and you go to ask count it's like the

1071
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: best improvisers in the world. I feel it's a cool

1072
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: factor thing that This is why I always felt like

1073
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: I was always so upset when I wasn't um doing

1074
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 1: well in improv classes that I never ever got out

1075
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 1: of my head in improv classes UM, And it was

1076
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: entirely my fault because I think I started too young.

1077
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: I started nineteen, which is like I think, just so young,

1078
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: you don't like you're not able to be yourself in

1079
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: your own life. How you're going to go out there

1080
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: and like be a canvass on stage and wait for

1081
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: that response to lead to something. I felt like it

1082
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: was such like an important thing to be good at

1083
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: improv and be good at the Herald because that was

1084
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 1: like what the coolest people were doing. And I always

1085
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 1: felt like like, man, I'll never like at n y U.

1086
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: I was on the sketch group and you were on

1087
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: the improv group, and I was like, but I'm not

1088
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm not with the cool guys who do like It

1089
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: was entirely and it was fully reversed on our own

1090
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: where it was like, well, we're not doing sketch, so

1091
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: what do we have to show for ourselves? Yeah, I mean,

1092
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: you always want what you don't. It's like anything. But

1093
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: I remember I had a totally opposite experience from you

1094
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: for the majority of my twenties because I didn't face

1095
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of rejection, Like I felt like we really

1096
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: worked hard and doing our own thing, like we had

1097
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: our sketch group popular lette. I had worked hard in college,

1098
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: so when I auditioned from a lot, I got on

1099
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: the team like, um, whenever I had justtioned for characters welcome,

1100
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: I always got on like. And then when JFL happened,

1101
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: I got on works. And then there's those things that

1102
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: you get and then you do feel like, well, I'm

1103
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: a person who had just this works for me. I

1104
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: get stuff, and then you get into the real industry,

1105
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: and that's when you start facing rejection and you're like,

1106
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: oh wow, I was just very lucky for a long time,

1107
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like because because being told

1108
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: no is a thing, and I do think like that

1109
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: is it's like you're scared at at those improv auditions

1110
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: because you're scared to be told no when you're scared

1111
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: to be quote unquote bad. But there's so much good

1112
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: in being told no and like being told like it's

1113
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: not time, you know, like because it's not and you

1114
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: you've just like trained to learn something that you can

1115
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: you know, you can use in many aspects of your

1116
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: life hopefully if you're if you're viewing it that way,

1117
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: I looked at it like so, yeah, I mean you can't.

1118
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: It's also a hard thing as a d I was like,

1119
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: I can't expect you can't tell people how to feel,

1120
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: and I want people to feel what they feel. But

1121
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: there is I just think about it. I like, so

1122
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: people are putting so much pressure on themselves for this

1123
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: like one day and it's not it's not it's not

1124
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: like this thing that like you get on it and

1125
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: then suddenly all these riches come to you, Like there's

1126
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 1: auditions that yeah, no, you don't get like, but there's

1127
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: like these it's just this thing of like, oh, it's

1128
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: like you just got into like this continued ed program

1129
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: where you just get to like but you can also

1130
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: put your own teams together and do the same thing elsewhere.

1131
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: But it's like this is just a system is going

1132
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: to help you and do it for you and give

1133
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: you a show. If you think, like there's auditions that

1134
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: we go on where it's like, oh, I'm auditioning for

1135
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: a recurring role, like this could change my life, but

1136
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't put that much pressure on it where it's

1137
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: like I memorize, I get my sides down, I go

1138
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: and I do my best and then but I'm now

1139
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: at a place where I can just like forget about it.

1140
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: I mean remember like the first few auditions I went

1141
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: on and be like, oh my god, I get it,

1142
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, and I in it. But's like now

1143
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: it's like nope, out forget And I think that's but

1144
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: I think that's hard for that the system at UCB,

1145
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: because you have spent a lot of time and money

1146
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: that for some people it is for that specific day.

1147
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: Some people it's not. But I think so much people

1148
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: just be like I've spent two year years for this moment.

1149
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you've spent two years for this knowledge

1150
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: and um training you have and these new skills that

1151
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: hopefully you've built that you can use, but you can't

1152
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: tell people. I can't tell you when you feel. And

1153
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: I also get that. It's like there's so many emotions.

1154
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: And I know my biggest lesson as a d was

1155
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: like I'm not responsible someone's It was actually B. S. J. Yeah,

1156
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: I was brand Scott Jones. I was really upset about something.

1157
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: I had just worked really hard on something and then uh,

1158
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah, I did it. And then

1159
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: someone came up to me and said something that kind

1160
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: of like crushed everything I just did. Uh. And I

1161
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: was like crying backstage at the Chelsea Theater and BS

1162
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: is like, what's wrong when I said it? And he's like, Shannon,

1163
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: you are not responsible for their ego. And I was like,

1164
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: you're right, that's their ego. Like I that was not

1165
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: my fault. So it's like that's like, I'm not responsible

1166
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: for your ego. Is like something I had to like

1167
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: I like would check when like someone would be up,

1168
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, like a performer right to be like upset.

1169
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, let me analyze this. I think

1170
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: this is this is their ego and I can help

1171
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: you only so much because there's three of you. Yeah,

1172
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: it's well, someone inserting themselves into the fact that person.

1173
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 1: So a person came up to you and said something, Yeah,

1174
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: I got an email that was just like that. It's

1175
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: just like, why not me like that thing? So it's

1176
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: someone like, it's fully someone injecting their ego l O

1177
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: l um into your into your experience, which is just

1178
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: like the when my best come on, it's just it's

1179
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: the mic Pizzis. It's the Miczzies of the world who

1180
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: are like making you faint and then somehow you get

1181
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: in trouble for It's like yeah, yeah, not like everything.

1182
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is like everyone wants

1183
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: it so bad because when it's when I of like

1184
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: those weekends like shows that I went to, I'll just

1185
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: never forget because it looked truly like like I'll just

1186
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: never forget scenes that I seen that I saw Middle

1187
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: Ditch and fran do as like the Sun in the Moon.

1188
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy. When I'm watching it's

1189
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: art like I was, I remember um like just like

1190
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: being so sucked away by it, and it's just like

1191
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: that's what I think everyone wants is just that moment

1192
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: up there of like community and speaking a language with

1193
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: someone that like it seems like only you know, do

1194
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: you have people that you're that are your favorite people

1195
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: that you've performed with. I mean, I am so blessed

1196
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: to have Alex Dixon and Connor rat List stepfather. It's

1197
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: we really. I mean I've really lucked out with my

1198
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: UM with like improv teams I've been on and I

1199
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: know that UM but and I know just like that

1200
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: feeling of like what a team that succeeds as one

1201
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: that cares for each other. In my first team, like

1202
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: we were just like all assholes, all assholes to each other,

1203
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh, yeah, that's why the

1204
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: team didn't work. And my second team was like okay

1205
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: and fun um but then kind of also like this

1206
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: thing of like just too much like not really caring

1207
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: for each other. And then I finally found like when

1208
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: I had um mail or Demon which turned into fuand

1209
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, we're all on the same page.

1210
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: We all really want to work for this one thing,

1211
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: and uh if one of us was like oh, like

1212
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: no one ever was just like I don't, I can't,

1213
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to do. That was like they would

1214
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: be like and honestly, like, you know what, this isn't

1215
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't feel strong about this, but I will try it,

1216
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: like I will give a percent and we'll try it

1217
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: and let me you know, but I want just like

1218
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: we were all honest with each other and it was

1219
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: like in a good way and it was like and

1220
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: it was like great. And then I got on uh

1221
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: uh Stepfathers, which was like a scary thing because I

1222
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: was like deciding to leave this team that I was

1223
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: just like really loved and we were doing it was

1224
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: really challenging me and making me a better improviser and

1225
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: were just like doing really cool ship and I was like, okay,

1226
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm it was a very hard It was like a

1227
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: really hard decision. I had the hardest time telling the team. Um.

1228
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: It was just like oh this like this wasn't like

1229
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: see this was like ah, I'm stepping away and like

1230
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: taking a chance. Um. And then stepfather has turned out

1231
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: turned out great and now it's like it's been Um.

1232
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: Now it's just like it's me and Alex and Connor

1233
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's for the most part and it's like we

1234
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: just I have just like genuine love for both of

1235
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: them where we are just like on stage taking care

1236
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: of each other, having fun. We just know each other

1237
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: so well that it's like, oh, we can step out

1238
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,439
Speaker 1: and just like just just yeah yeah, and I know

1239
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: and I know that's why, like we are so good,

1240
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: did you because we share with each other or if

1241
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: we don't, we're just like I know something, tell me,

1242
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: like we don't like there's no yeah, we're really good

1243
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: about yeah about that. So it's like that is yeah.

1244
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: Did you see Connor on Marvelous Mrs Masal? I watched,

1245
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: I went to his I went to his episode and

1246
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: like was watching Chester like he basically plays like like

1247
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: the show. She's like pretending to be like the like

1248
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: sanitation worker at the Catskills so that she can keep

1249
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: an eye on and um, like she's just walking around

1250
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: with a plunger just to make sure everyone thinks she

1251
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: works there. And Connor plays a guy who's also doing that.

1252
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: He's just like also a cream that's great, very good.

1253
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: It's like very connor ratative. Oh my god, Alex Dixon too,

1254
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: and great energy. If we're listening show Biz, get on

1255
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: the Alex Dixon are sleeping on. He can do anything.

1256
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: She's such an amazing actress, so good makes me a

1257
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: better improviser. Her and Connor both are like just reactors,

1258
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: and I'm just like an insane uh monster, and they

1259
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: make me. They've both made me a better actor. Yes,

1260
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: it really there's a big difference, you know, whence you're

1261
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: dead on with that. Alex Dixon, she acts her series.

1262
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else does that? They're yeah,

1263
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: She's yeah. They're like honest, real reactions that lead to humor,

1264
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: like those honest like she Glen, Glenn Busanna and I

1265
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: did this weird web series where I forgot what she

1266
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: wrote it, but like we were these two like branding consultants,

1267
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: and then Alex Dixon comes in and plays her. Her

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01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: and Karen were like these two like female CEOs with

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01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: this company and like and like Glenn and I were

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01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: like just being incompetent for whatever reason. Then we were

1271
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: just improvising the whole thing. And then and then the

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01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: funniest moment was Alex just going you're you're terrible people,

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: Like you're you're bad at your jobs. It was just

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01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: but it was acting. It was like fully and full realism.

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01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: Like you also just said the name Glenn and then

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: my heart Yeah I bet um but yeah, Alex phenomenal. Um,

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01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: it's UCP has truly like that was really like so formative,

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01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: like because it really exposed us to the best people

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01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: like it. I think UCB like sets the tone for

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01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff for everything. I mean that's true,

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01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: but like in terms of the talent it generates, like yes,

1282
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: like that has always been there, but in terms of

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01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: how it ripples out into other people's work, like it

1284
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: is informed by whether people are like, um, just like

1285
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: going upstream from it in a fun way where it's

1286
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: like altered, it's like crazy. It's like you know, fucking

1287
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: Connor many will do something nuts where you know it's

1288
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: he's in it, but he's also like totally fucking shut up,

1289
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: or it's someone who like I feel like we like

1290
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: also like all say that we like are very influenced

1291
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: by the sensibility that like we like picked up from

1292
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: meeting people there and orange that am most are glad

1293
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: that there's people that have not come through that found

1294
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: other ways, you know, like you know, like I don't

1295
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: think I think Patty Harrison needs to taken improv class,

1296
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like she's like she took classes.

1297
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but she was like an improviser

1298
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: in college. I always just thought of her as like

1299
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: someone that came from like stand up or whatever. But

1300
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: then I realized like she was, like she an improviser.

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01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: Yeah she has, but it's like, yeah, there's like certain

1302
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: as like no, you don't need to you don't need

1303
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: to come through this. Also, I think it would squash

1304
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 1: some people, you know, like if you just can know

1305
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: like what is your or if you're going through and

1306
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you know, if this isn't for me

1307
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 1: and that's okay, okay, or it's like oh I got

1308
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: some training, that's okay, I'm gonna you know, I want

1309
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: to go to a show somewhere else, and like it

1310
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: takes a tremendous amount of self awareness, but I think

1311
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: it's it's it's in everybody to be like there is

1312
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: a mechanism in every person to be like, oh, this

1313
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: isn't for me. Yeah, I mean that's the case. Like

1314
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: at the end of my like a little at the

1315
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: end of my road there, I wasn't on a herald

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01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 1: team and I was never going to be because I

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01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: wasn't good at the herald, Like it's just not the

1318
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: way my brain works. But taking improv classes that you

1319
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: ce B did not only made me a better performer,

1320
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: made me a perform I didn't realize I could even

1321
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: stand up in front of people and speak like that

1322
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: until I took my one on one and you see me.

1323
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: So it's like there's so many others and it also

1324
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: makes people better communicators. Hello hopefully right are you? Is

1325
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: there some sense of relief relief um now that you're

1326
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: just on like the performer side fully like full, I mean,

1327
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: of course, okay, you did for four or five years

1328
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: and did for four years. Yeah, yeah, biggest thing, biggest

1329
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 1: like biggest reliase of tension. What was like the biggest

1330
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: tension for you? Would you say it's just my time?

1331
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: It was it was just a job that took my life.

1332
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not a person that like if I have

1333
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: a job, I do it. Like I don't have I

1334
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: can't half ask anything. So I just kind of like

1335
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: all the way, I just was like submerged myself all

1336
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 1: the way. And it's like, because you know, I can't

1337
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: not um because affects so many people who I know

1338
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: were like working hard and stuff. So that was like

1339
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: it was just such a time a time suck where

1340
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: I you know, I made a plan. I made an

1341
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: exit plan to be like, okay, this is when I

1342
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: got to be out. And then I pushed that um

1343
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: a little bit because of the move from Chelsea to

1344
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: Hill's Kitchen, and I was like, okay, I can't leave

1345
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: yet because my thing of being like I can't abandon this.

1346
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: I gotta like take this through a little bit um.

1347
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: And then and then uh, and then I finally was

1348
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: just like I gotta I got, but I gave five

1349
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: months notice. Well it seems like it was like I

1350
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: wasn't being a monster about it. I was like, I

1351
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: just I'm going to give five months notice because then

1352
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: I've said it, it's happening. I can see d c

1353
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: M through and just like let the next person start

1354
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: at like a chill time, because like to just like

1355
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: start at a not chill time would be like insane

1356
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: and there are so few and far between pockets of

1357
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: chill time. No, it's like July August is like the

1358
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: only chill time yea, or like holidays. But I wasn't

1359
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: going to like train someone over the holidays totally. I

1360
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: remember hearing that you were stepping down and I was like,

1361
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: who I could do it? Remember, you just became so

1362
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: synonymous with me, for me with running that theater so well.

1363
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: And I was just like, there's a scary thing to

1364
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: be stepping down because it wasn't like who will do

1365
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: I was like, who wants to do that? Another show?

1366
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: And I think people getting two am three am emails

1367
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: from me for like four years, Like what is this life?

1368
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 1: Hardney asked me. He's like, I'm thinking about applying for it.

1369
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: I was like, and I literally said him, I was like,

1370
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: do you want that job? I was like I think

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01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: I do. And I was like, okay, bitch, I think

1372
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: you'd be perfect for it. When I and when I

1373
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: knew that DCM was probably not going to be part

1374
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: of the thing too, but like I couldn't like announced that.

1375
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: But I was like, maybe he wants to announced that

1376
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: d c M won't be in you know, New York,

1377
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: that maybe more people will apply, but that we announced that.

1378
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: But because that truly also killed me, M yeah yeah, um,

1379
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, my time was like that. It was like

1380
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: a huge It was like a huge thing, like I

1381
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: didn't really have like a life. Um and then uh,

1382
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: also you know you hit a point of upsetting people unintentionally,

1383
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: like there's only like a limit that you can hit. Yeah, yeah,

1384
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,879
Speaker 1: where it's just like, oh, my job is making people upset.

1385
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: And someone said to me shortly before I had already

1386
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: given my notice to the u C before an alex citizen. Um.

1387
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: But then someone had said to me before I announced

1388
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 1: it to everyone, They're like, shin, and you know that

1389
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: your job like you never You're never right. And I

1390
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: was like what, And I'm like no, like you're never

1391
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: right because like you could put someone on a team

1392
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: and then someone else's like why are they on a team.

1393
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: So it's like anything I do is like never going

1394
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: to completely please everybody. And I was like, oh, yeah, no,

1395
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 1: I'm aware of that. I'm made aware of that. I

1396
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: got off Facebook too late. But when I did get

1397
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: on Facebook, but a blessing so if oh yeah, because

1398
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: it's like oh I don't have to see it was yeah,

1399
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: it's are you off? I'm off? Are are you off?

1400
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm off? I'm about to do the thing where I

1401
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: just download all my photos and then I just fully

1402
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: shut it down. I have a Dumby account great that

1403
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: I just used for like my CrossFit in my skateball team.

1404
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: The election and that like it's friendless, like people, I'm

1405
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: not your friend, and like, yeah, it's a friendless account,

1406
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: so I'm not looking at it's The election ruined it

1407
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 1: for me, But it was kind of just more like

1408
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: not even just that, it was just the seeing people change.

1409
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: Once I started to make estimations and like calls about

1410
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: people who are my friends in real life based on

1411
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: their online persona. That was like truly just words on

1412
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: the screen. I was like, I can't do this anymore,

1413
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: Like I know I have more love in my heart

1414
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: than what I feel every time I walk onto this website.

1415
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: It just turns you into a monster, which is why

1416
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,480
Speaker 1: I think, like I think young people are very perceptive,

1417
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: and I think that like so young people are not

1418
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: on Facebook. They're not on Facebook, Like at what age

1419
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: are we talking this? As I think like they look

1420
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: at it like, but who is young? Like what ages?

1421
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: High school kids are not on it right now? And

1422
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of college kids are on it.

1423
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: Interesting And do you truly do they use I think

1424
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: they go on Instagram and they do Snapchat. But you're

1425
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: saying that we're about where like leaning they're gonna wan

1426
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: off Instagram and no Snapchat as a fucking ghost town, right, Well,

1427
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: they do something and I don't know exactly what that is.

1428
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: That's how I know, Like that, really I'm really not

1429
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: in touch with what the kids are doing because I

1430
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: really don't even know what they're on now. But I

1431
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: know they're not on Facebook. And I also know that

1432
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: like a lot of us are not on Facebook. People

1433
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: are not on Facebook. Feels like a ghost tenn too.

1434
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: But you're saying because it's like criminal, But is your

1435
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: theory that, um, they're going to hit a wall with

1436
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: Instagram to that Let's like there's no the bubble for

1437
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: them is about to burst where it's like, well, I

1438
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: don't want any sort of online exposure. I think that

1439
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: the conversation around these things are becoming so negative because

1440
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: it makes us feel bad, and I think that we

1441
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: only are going to take that for so long, you

1442
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, and you think about like

1443
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: these things like it's like anything else that consumes the

1444
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: time of the populace, Like people move on to other interests,

1445
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There are times when people

1446
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: don't go There was a time when there was no

1447
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: blockbuster movies, you know what I mean. Like, and then

1448
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: there was a time like I just think different things

1449
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: take hold and we will find like what the next

1450
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: Facebook is that will bring everyone's attention over there. I mean,

1451
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: movies used to be in the theaters for six months

1452
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: and now it's like what six weeks, two months or Yeah,

1453
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: I work at a movie theater, and it was like

1454
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: we had Jurassic Park for six months. Yeah, we had

1455
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: Liar Liar for six months, and there was like in

1456
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: terms of we had Home Alone for six months hit

1457
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: movies that were Remember you can look at the list

1458
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: like of all the most highest grossing movies every year,

1459
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: and it's so crazy the way it's changed from like

1460
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: the year two thousand eighteen. Now it's like used to

1461
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: have like three or four movies that made over a

1462
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. Now it's like the top thirty movies

1463
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: all making over a hundred million dollars. And like the

1464
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: way like the kinds of films that are made now

1465
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: is just the movie is really depressed me because it's

1466
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: all sequels. But like these things change, you like yeah,

1467
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: and my only thing is like I feel that if

1468
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 1: you really look at it, we are getting dumber because

1469
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: I think if you were to take movies and the

1470
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: and the box office totals and you really just look

1471
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: at it, the lack of imagination in storytelling and just

1472
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: the fact that we're getting regurgitated the same idea again

1473
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: and again and again, and these movies are all the same,

1474
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: and that that is making such an exorbitant amount of

1475
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: money and we're willing to keep going back and going

1476
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: back and going back. That is like, because we're not

1477
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: using our brains. You're saying a star is born is

1478
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying a star is born is an example. No,

1479
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: I think the stars weren't actually counts as like an

1480
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: original thought to be honest, because that's like a that's

1481
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: a different one. What I'm saying is like when we

1482
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: get fucking you know, fast and the furious, it's the

1483
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: furious because it's like we're banking on it's just yeah,

1484
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: but it's like the same thing, just the same story,

1485
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: different cars, right exactly. We're just we're just feeling dumber

1486
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: like it. And it's just like a lot of it

1487
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: is it's it's just shiny objects. I mean, I catch

1488
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: myself on Instagram just watching people ice cakes. You know

1489
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: too much, which I'm like, wow, how do they make

1490
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: this unicornin? And I see it and I'm like what,

1491
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: And I will just watch it because it's like my Oh,

1492
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's like my version of a SMR or

1493
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 1: just is that what it would be. I don't know what. Basically,

1494
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: it's like a thing of like, oh, I can just

1495
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: like shut down, shut down and watch this, but it's

1496
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: like it's not helping me. I don't because I'm not

1497
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: learning anything from it, and I get mad at myself.

1498
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: And we're addicted to it, but the young kids aren't,

1499
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna be able to see it and

1500
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: be like that's bad and they're just gonna do something else. Well,

1501
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: you saying that at the beginning was reminding me of

1502
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid and what I like

1503
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 1: to do. Maybe it was like my own version of

1504
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: like I love just shooting free throws in my yard

1505
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: and driveway. I could do that. I could take my

1506
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: boom box out, listen to the NBA draft and just

1507
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: like shoot for the night. I would do like you

1508
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 1: ever do those? Um. I don't know if you guys

1509
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 1: had it because you're our age difference, but it was

1510
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: like a it was a pogo ball and it was

1511
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: like around rubber ball with like a saucer, like you know,

1512
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: like you're jump and I was like, oh, that was

1513
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 1: my swiping. That was my swiping, because I would I

1514
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: went to a after a summer camp um at and

1515
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: now I could if I if you held the record,

1516
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: you got like I'm a free like McDonald's hamburger, and

1517
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I just did this for a thousand jumps,

1518
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: and I would and I would have blisters on the

1519
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: inside of my of like my feet because it was

1520
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: just like I had to like that's like what my

1521
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: swiping was. But it was like collectivity act was conductive.

1522
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: But I could also do I could read more books

1523
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. Now it's just like I'm

1524
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: trying to get back into reading and I'm doing better,

1525
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: but I'm just like even like um, like the way

1526
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: here was like, oh, I have a subway, right, I'm

1527
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna read the book. But then I got,

1528
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,639
Speaker 1: um just just like a little bit sidetracked um by

1529
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: my I don't think so, honey, honestly, where I was

1530
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: like okay, so it still was like still it was

1531
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: still using my brain it isn't. But isn't that a

1532
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: scary thing where it's like I have to remind myself

1533
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: that to feel good about the fact that I did

1534
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 1: use my brain, you know what I mean. Like, but

1535
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: I remember, I'm also at my best when I as

1536
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: a performer, when I when my brain feels stronger and

1537
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: like I'm like taking care of myself like physically and

1538
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: my brains. I'm working out and I'm reading or doing

1539
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: something that feels like it's like a task, like I

1540
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: just gotta switch, thank you, And I feel I'm just

1541
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: doing Mario Odyssey right now, and I feel great about that.

1542
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't do it a lot. I just do

1543
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,240
Speaker 1: it for like a half fib It's like it's problem solving,

1544
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: it's puzzles, it's problem solving. So it's like that's not

1545
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: me just watching you know, different three tier cakes being

1546
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: Deckory did in different ways, Like I'm just like oh yes, oh,

1547
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: and it's like coordination and all that stuff. So it's like, Okay,

1548
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it for hours and hours, but there

1549
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: is like I don't feel bad about that because it

1550
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: is like a puzzle that yeah, and because the game

1551
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: is designed for sort of these little pick up and

1552
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: play moments. Yes, And I feel like, are you as

1553
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 1: older person, I feel like you would like Zelda. I

1554
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: I hear I didn't like old school Zelda. Zelda is

1555
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: hard an esoteric, but like you know, Nintendo Day, but

1556
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: I hear that the Zelda is awesome. It is exactly

1557
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: what you're looking for in terms of these little shrines,

1558
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: these little micro puzzles that are all about spatial reasoning

1559
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: and all about like coordination. It's which I really enjoy

1560
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not like and it might be your gateway

1561
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: into other Zelda games because if you go, if you

1562
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: start with this most recent and go backwards, you just realize, oh,

1563
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: like I only recently got into Zelda, Like I played

1564
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: Acarina when I was a kid, but then like fell off.

1565
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: But then in the lead up to this news, all

1566
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: the game played all the older ones, and I was like, oh,

1567
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,959
Speaker 1: this is a genius series, Like it's all just puzzles,

1568
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 1: all just these really love video games. Then I did

1569
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: I just like didn't have the time when after I

1570
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: became a d but like I wish I hadn't do it. Yeah,

1571
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: but like the switch was like, oh this is like

1572
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 1: a an easy easy a New Gateway. So but yeah,

1573
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: but it is like I hope kids are getting away

1574
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: from I think it's we're going to look back at

1575
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: this time and we're going to realize, like we were

1576
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 1: obsessed with social it's a drug. We didn't realize we've

1577
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: been doing cocaine this entire time and didn't know. We

1578
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,919
Speaker 1: didn't know, Like there was no warning on the cigarette

1579
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: pack when we started smoking. Twitter was originally you telling

1580
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: your friends where you were right, what you were eating,

1581
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: what you're doing. It's just going to the movies. And

1582
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 1: now it's yeah, it's it's some of that, Like I

1583
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 1: love the jokes, but when it is when you look

1584
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: up stuff and it's just like, oh, this is a

1585
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: terrible rumor and now people are gonna believe it. And

1586
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: it's like you can't bat you cannot battle like a

1587
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: brush fire. No, it's literally it's a forest fire. It's

1588
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna burn, and people are just gonna remember

1589
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: the burn and not that like it started. It was

1590
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 1: like this like stupid match that was lit inappropriately should

1591
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: never have lit. That match should have never been lit.

1592
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: It was falsely lit, just like we never we did

1593
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: not need to light it because before you lit it?

1594
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: Should have asked hionhe should I light this? And no,

1595
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: And here's why you shouldn't light it, because your reasoning

1596
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: for lighting it is actually incorrect. But now you're lighting

1597
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: it and throwing it and being like the consequences just

1598
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: like you can't control it. I have hope. I have

1599
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: hope because I just think, like I think, the fact

1600
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: of the matter is our general are like generations might

1601
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 1: be kind of lost to it because we're already obsessed.

1602
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 1: We're already addicted. We have this addiction in our lives.

1603
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:39,800
Speaker 1: But I know that the younger generation, like they have

1604
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 1: to be able to look at this and call out

1605
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 1: that unusual thing, which is the obsession with and indulgence

1606
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: in constant falsity, like you know, flood ing in your

1607
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: blood stream like it's wild. Yeah, it is a drug.

1608
01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: It's a bad drug. We move on, Move on. We're

1609
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna move on to I don't think so. Obviously our

1610
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: guest has been a stewing on on her. Matt, you go, okay,

1611
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: this is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. His

1612
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: time starts and now I don't think so, honey. The

1613
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: earbuds that come with any iPhone products. What the fuck

1614
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 1: is going on? When literally am I the only one

1615
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: who two months after I'm using it only one earbud works?

1616
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: Answer this question? Is this a thing like? This is?

1617
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: I swear to God? And then you go to replace

1618
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: them and it's thirty dollars you need to take care

1619
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: of What do you mean I need to take care

1620
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 1: of them? You're sitting on one of them too, You're

1621
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: putting too much pressure. Okay, well this is no. That

1622
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: would I would have to be in a thing I

1623
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: swear to God. I feel like headphones should be like

1624
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: WiFi and water. Everyone should just be able to have them.

1625
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: I need them, and honestly, it's like I get the iPhones,

1626
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: they have this whole thing where it's like, you know,

1627
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:54,719
Speaker 1: you better update at a certain time or the phone's

1628
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 1: basically gonna melt in your hands. But I just feel

1629
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: so upset. I don't even own headphones right now because

1630
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna go out and buy them for

1631
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 1: thirty dollars or just too much money, and then they're

1632
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna like not be usable in five seconds. And also

1633
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: there's small you can lose them, So I don't think

1634
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 1: so honey, headphones No Oh that's good. I have I

1635
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: just started my wrong No, I just started Bluetooth Culture

1636
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: number sixteen head yes, And so this is my problem though.

1637
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: It's like right now I don't even have any headphones

1638
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like a psycho in the gym, like who

1639
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: has nothing like And I'm just like, no, that you

1640
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: can't do that. Famously hasn't. He thinks he's a big

1641
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: strong boy and just goes and just listens to nothing.

1642
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: And I've been doing that. I'm just literally like buy

1643
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: myself in the gym. And I wanted people to listen

1644
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,960
Speaker 1: to podcasts and do my thing while I'm in the gym.

1645
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: But I'm scared to go out and buy them because

1646
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: they've proven unreliable because non Apple ones. You mean, I'll

1647
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: even go to the Apple store and buy Apple ones

1648
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: and then I'm shocked when the product is bad and

1649
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I and I can't m I don't know. Yeah, so

1650
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: I guess, um, things aren't made like they used to be.

1651
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: They sound old, but I have my grandmother's mixer, hand mixer,

1652
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: and it still works. My moms like there's a smell,

1653
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: but it works. I have a bowl that my mom

1654
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: always but there's like a it's like there's like a

1655
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: burning smell, but it works. I make Costa in this

1656
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: bowl that my mom gave me, and every single time

1657
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: she she's she doesn't even say that's my bowl I

1658
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: gave you. She has my bowl from when I was single,

1659
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: like from when she was single, And I'm like, this

1660
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: is so weird. When I who else eight out of

1661
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 1: that bowl? Alright? Who could have been the person that

1662
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: did not allow you to exist? She went to Junior

1663
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: Problem with this guy who his name is Kevin Maser

1664
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: and he takes all the photos of Beyonce when she

1665
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: does a concert. He's a huge celebrated photographer. My mom

1666
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: dated him in high school and they went to Junior Problems.

1667
01:24:55,640 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 1: She takes pictures for everything, takes for every celebrity. Literally,

1668
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: if you go on this every award show, he's every

1669
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: award show, every concert. He's like, no the stars. Kevin

1670
01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Mazer that was my mom's like boyfriend in high school.

1671
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: She said, hey, they still talk, okay. We still thought

1672
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: he was going to do my head shots a few

1673
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: years ago. Oh my god. And I was like, don't

1674
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: make him do that because I was like, well, I

1675
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 1: could talk to him if you ever want to do

1676
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: something like back when she thought that's how you get

1677
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:24,719
Speaker 1: an agent, like she was going to use her industry connects.

1678
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: That would have been very cool but probably a weird move, probably,

1679
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: But apparently she still does and he still knew if

1680
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: people like, yeah, people could tell like, oh, those are

1681
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: show but I'm telling you, this guy is like huge.

1682
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: This is I don't think so, honey, and his time

1683
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: actually starts now. I don't think so, honey, Carbs who

1684
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm on whole thirty right now, I don't miss you,

1685
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: and I'm shocked at myself. I remember I did a

1686
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: different diet, the Tim Ferris one back in college, and

1687
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: on the second day I was calling everyone toxic and

1688
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: disgusting and all I want it was a pizza. But

1689
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: somehow whole thirty, I'm I'm surprisingly sticking to it. But

1690
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: that's not true. I cheated, cheated, and then I cheated

1691
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: last night because I ate a really good pot pie.

1692
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: So you know what, I've fallen off the wagon already,

1693
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 1: but seconds. But everyone describes this thing when you're on

1694
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: thirty that you look at the things that you used

1695
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: to and your like disgusted by them, And I love

1696
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 1: that and it's um a fun feeling to be in

1697
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: control of what you put in your body. And I

1698
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 1: recommend this to you. Don't need a point to me.

1699
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: I've been doing it like we've been putting garbage in

1700
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: our bodies and we have to hit the reset button.

1701
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: And that's what the whole thirty is. I'm not being endorsed.

1702
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 1: I just think it's it gets. It gets a lot

1703
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: of flag people sit on it a lot, but I

1704
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 1: don't mind it. It's actually not a bad way to go.

1705
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: And that was actually and I do think so, honey, yeah,

1706
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: my question. I don't think so many cars, but I

1707
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 1: don't think any cars. I had potpie last night and

1708
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: it was good and I'm okay with it, but like,

1709
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: you should do this whole this was saying I haven't

1710
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 1: been and that that happens. I haven't been doing any

1711
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: specific dieting plan, but I have been going to the

1712
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:11,879
Speaker 1: gym every day and afterwards, I eat like lean proteins

1713
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 1: and I do drink protein shakes. And I will say this,

1714
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: I've been eating so like well for for me over

1715
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: the past two weeks. The other night at Dave's me

1716
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Dave an area like ate a bunch of like chips,

1717
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 1: and salsa when we're watching the Globes. The next day, stomachache,

1718
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: I was like shooting blood. It was horrible. I was

1719
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: like my body was like get this eating and honestly

1720
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 1: like but my body was like my body was literally

1721
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 1: like we are rejecting drug, junk food. Now it's good though.

1722
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: Your body has become like selfe. So it's it's it's

1723
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: it's deciding to get rid of it. My body is

1724
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: deciding it does I think when you take care of

1725
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: yourself and you have that bad stuff, I feel like

1726
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: the bad stuff actually doesn't it makes you feel bad,

1727
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 1: but like it's like that that's you knowing that you've

1728
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 1: worked to get rid of it. It's very that. And

1729
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: also I don't know if this happens to you guys,

1730
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: but like I've recently been back in the gym, like

1731
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I said, and like I'll get through my second set

1732
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: of whatever I'm doing, and my body is like we

1733
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: have to ship now. Like my body will just be

1734
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: like we have to go ship right now. Yeah, And

1735
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 1: then I do, are you not on a schedule? I

1736
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: like a poop schedule. Well, I'm a morning pooper. I'm

1737
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: a morning pooper to yeah, and I'm you know what's

1738
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: really bad and this is the one main thing I

1739
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: have to change going forward. I'm a bad night eater.

1740
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can't do it, Like like, how many

1741
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 1: hours before bed are you eating? Like the hour? The hour? Yeah,

1742
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: that's because that's when I smoke and oh you smoke too,

1743
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: I smoke weed and then I okay, like no, I

1744
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't suppos cigarettes every What I do is like

1745
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 1: I wake up around honestly, around like ten because I'm

1746
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,639
Speaker 1: usually doing shows at night, so up a little late.

1747
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm very freelancer. So that's when my day starts. And

1748
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm not hungry right away. I'll go to the gym,

1749
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 1: comeback eat after that. Then I'll end up eating like

1750
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: my lunch at like six, and then dinner wants to

1751
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: happen at ten eleven pm. Now that's you will wake up.

1752
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: You have to you want to wake up hungry. Yeah,

1753
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I'll just keep telling myself that, just give yourself a

1754
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: give yourself a cut off time. Yeah, I won't eat

1755
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: after Like, what when do you go to bed? At

1756
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: least three hours? At least three hours before bed? Al right,

1757
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 1: so I won't eat. You stop eating, That's like the rule.

1758
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: That I hear. You can even cut it out a

1759
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, and remember like water is is gonna

1760
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 1: take away that hunger diet stuff with across that. Oh

1761
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: there's no like oh no, no one's like on your ass,

1762
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,639
Speaker 1: but it's um. I was eating bad like the past

1763
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 1: two months. Uh, We'll admit I had too many sentiments donuts.

1764
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Was like it was like the holiday that I hate

1765
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: the holidays and they really stressed me out. So I

1766
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: just was being bad. But I'm on a little nice

1767
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: There's a challenge at my CrossFit, so it's like you decide.

1768
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: There's no pressure on like what to eat. It's just

1769
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 1: like whatever however you want to do it, you do it.

1770
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 1: So some people are doing paleo, some people are doing UM,

1771
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 1: but I'm doing like clean clean eating, some clean eating.

1772
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: So I allowed myself like the only cheese I allowed

1773
01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,640
Speaker 1: myself is like goat cheese and that's just like a

1774
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: little bit um and the like and if I want it, Yeah,

1775
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: it's just like a lot of unprocessed and it makes

1776
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 1: you feel So now I am waking up hungry because

1777
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to bed hungry. The last night I was

1778
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: really starving and I had like a swig of almond milk.

1779
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: So I was like, this isn't terrible, and maybe I

1780
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: think I had like an at like a little piece

1781
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: of I baked some apple. So I had like a

1782
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: baked apple. I was like, okay, like it's me weaning

1783
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: myself because I was also like getting like getting home

1784
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,600
Speaker 1: late and just being like, oh, oh, I'm home and

1785
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: this is like this is my home and I've just

1786
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: watched my dogs and I'm not like I haven't wired

1787
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: down yet. So it's like training your body. But if

1788
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 1: you cut out, then you'll be hungry in the morning.

1789
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: You can get a little something to get your your

1790
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: metabolism going. Think about me, My impulse control is not

1791
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: good and any aspect of my life. That's what I'm

1792
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 1: trying to sleep better. Yeah, I know you have like

1793
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 1: crazy dreams. I actually have insomnia, and I think it

1794
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 1: probably has to do with that. I'm actually learning a

1795
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: lot right now. You're making You're activating your body by eating.

1796
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, but just have a little bit of water.

1797
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: I'll have a little bit of water and I'll just

1798
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: just jerk off and jerk off. It does how it does.

1799
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you gotta jerk off you do in

1800
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: the morning, though I do all the time. You gotta

1801
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: get a little scream, I say, I gotta get a

1802
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,000
Speaker 1: little scream if you want to dream. Groom. All right,

1803
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: this actually is I never that's the first time said

1804
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: that that I had a little scream if you want

1805
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,520
Speaker 1: to dream? Culture is that rule of culture number six.

1806
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 1: You gotta get a little scream if you want to dream.

1807
01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: And it's also the title of app Scream to Dream,

1808
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: Scream to Dream, Scream to Dream, the the number two.

1809
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I almost had the letter to get a picture of that.

1810
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 1: Scream to Dream to Dream spaces spaces great. Okay, this

1811
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: is Shannon o'neils. I don't think so, honey, And I

1812
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: want to apologize. I did text twice with my Dogwalker.

1813
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need that apology because you're doing

1814
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 1: what you need to do. She's gonna look for a

1815
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,200
Speaker 1: coat for my dog. You're a mother, doesn't I'm not

1816
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 1: their mother. You're their friends. Keep them alive. I'm their owner,

1817
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm their alpha. Okay, all right, I don't

1818
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 1: think begins now. I don't think so, honey, Twitter News.

1819
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: What is what is your algorithm? And why is the

1820
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 1: woman found dead in a clothing donation box, still showing up.

1821
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Why do you quickly flash

1822
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: into my brain that a little boy is missing and

1823
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: then switch it to how some how much Samuel Jackson

1824
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 1: is worth? No, honey, figure out how is a woman

1825
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 1: that died at a d fourteen years old just barely

1826
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: beat out a tree snail that died at the age

1827
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: of fourteen. That is, honey, Update the news as it

1828
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: comes in. All right, I know about the huge fetburg.

1829
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 1: I've known about it for twenty four hours. To get

1830
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: her out of my feed, Honey, trends for you. That

1831
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,679
Speaker 1: shit ain't for me. Trending for me Donald Trump Jr. No,

1832
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 1: he does not trend for me Thursday thoughts. It's Wednesday, Honey.

1833
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Trend me some blind animals climbing a fucking rock, trying

1834
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 1: me a bunch of children dancing better than bag. She

1835
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: trend me how to make bacon healthy meal. Twitter news.

1836
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That's one that's very good

1837
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:34,719
Speaker 1: because I don't think so, honey. Best I don't think so, honey,

1838
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: should be things. What you really don't think, so honey?

1839
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 1: You really don't think my other Yeah, that was. But

1840
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 1: that was a fun one because it was like the

1841
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: pressure to like write something, which I need because I've

1842
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,720
Speaker 1: been kind of lazy. So it's like I'm gonna like

1843
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 1: a little a little comedic pieces and that what was

1844
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 1: the other one? Other thing was I don't think so, honey,

1845
01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: wedding registries. Have someone covered that? No, we've never heard

1846
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: that one. We've never had a lot of a lot

1847
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: of wedding a lot of wedding traditions. I learned. I

1848
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: don't like wedding registries because like, you don't I know,

1849
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: you have cups and plates and bowls, Like you don't

1850
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 1: need it. It's an out of date tradition of like

1851
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: when you didn't have a house, and it's like you

1852
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 1: get married and you move into a house and you

1853
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 1: need help from the community. But yeah, you don't need it,

1854
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: you know what. I kind of like, also, do you

1855
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: have money, Like I know, if you're a wealthier person

1856
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 1: and you're getting married and you have poor friends coming right.

1857
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,200
Speaker 1: Matt Garry and Shana's Houb did a cool thing, which

1858
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: was when they got married for for their um Like

1859
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was like a wedding registry, yes, but

1860
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 1: it was like they were going on their honeymoon and

1861
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: it was a honey fund, and you paid for different

1862
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 1: things on their honeymoons. You don't like that. I loved

1863
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 1: it because I love knowing that they were gonna. I

1864
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: bought them like two rounds of drinks on the beach,

1865
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: and I loved that. I love knowing that's what they

1866
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: were gonna. Only if it's like it's a wonderful life.

1867
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: But if it's like I'm sending you on like an

1868
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: insane honeymoon. Yeah, I don't know what put that on me. No,

1869
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 1: there's something of I just think the traditions have warped

1870
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:11,200
Speaker 1: what you know. It's like what a wedding was. It's like,

1871
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: it's not people and love. I learned the other day

1872
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 1: that you know, the wedding cake, the wedding cake, where

1873
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: it comes from, I'm gonna mess it up. But during

1874
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 1: some time, pre time pre time, so pre time, pre time,

1875
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: the bride, it was there was this lore that she

1876
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 1: was like this magical thing on her wedding day, like

1877
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 1: she contained magic. So people would guess would come up

1878
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: and try and grab parts of the bride and like

1879
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: take pieces of her wedding dress and take you, like

1880
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 1: basically grabbing and being aggressive. To be like your magic,

1881
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 1: I have to touch you and take your stuff. So

1882
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 1: to stop that. The wedding cake is a wedding dress.

1883
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: It's this white teared wedding dress. So now every time

1884
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 1: you're eating the wedding cake, it's you're eating the bride.

1885
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Did you fucking monsters? My? So next time you had

1886
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 1: a wedding, be careful what piece you eat and think

1887
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: about what part of the bride that is. So it's

1888
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: like this kind of like take aggressive kind of thing

1889
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 1: of like grabbing at the bride. I get the thing like, oh,

1890
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: she's magic. But then it's also like putting too much

1891
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: on someone that is getting married, like they're magical because

1892
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: someone decided to marry you, as we're all magical, magical.

1893
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: When someone's magical, your instinctn't be to grab them give me. No, Yeah,

1894
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: that's too much. You should wait for them to come

1895
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 1: to you and give them a piece of your set

1896
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: of themselves. That those are both like weddings anyway. I'm

1897
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 1: a Yeah, I like a celebration, but I think it's

1898
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: like a party. I love a party. A party, I think,

1899
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: and I think if I ever do find someone again

1900
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: have a wedding, because like I would want to have

1901
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: the party, but then also like I don't want to

1902
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,920
Speaker 1: do the thing where I have to invite, where I

1903
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 1: have to invite people. Yeah, my parents are sure as

1904
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: he'll not come into my gaate wedding. So I'm doing

1905
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: it at City Hall and then we're just gonna go

1906
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 1: to a bar afterwards. Love that bit, and it'll be

1907
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 1: it'll be like them will close it down. I'm giving

1908
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 1: such a speech. There'll be a private event. Everyone can

1909
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,240
Speaker 1: do what they want to do. Make sure you're not

1910
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: feeling the pressure to the That's what like it should be.

1911
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: I love a wedding where it's like, oh, this is

1912
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: really the couple, Like you can you can see their

1913
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: essence in it. A couple of my friends like like

1914
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: I've been at their weddings and I'm like, did you

1915
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 1: want this? You know what I mean? Like sometimes like

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01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 1: when the when the wedding is like super religious, or

1917
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: when the wedding is like when like there's a ton

1918
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: of people they're doing things at the wedding at the service,

1919
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: like oh, I've never seen before. I'm like, did you

1920
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: want this or did you were you told you had

1921
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: to have that person, or it's the parents that it's

1922
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: like yeah, or was it what the parents wanted? I

1923
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 1: just want my wedding to be my wedding if I

1924
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: ever have. I love a wedding, and it's fine if

1925
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,480
Speaker 1: you do this. But I love a wedding with no

1926
01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 1: no parties when no, no, sorry no no wedding parties,

1927
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,720
Speaker 1: wedding party, no no, no bride, no groom party. But

1928
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: it's fine if you you have them. It's also such

1929
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: a thing of like the pressure of I've never I

1930
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: was only a bridesmaid once and it was great because

1931
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 1: my friend Experience just told me, um, go get a dress,

1932
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 1: any dress you want, like what I think it was

1933
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: like a style. It was like a bohemian style. So

1934
01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 1: we all just had like these different or she just like, hey,

1935
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 1: this is twenty dollars. It's at the kiosk at them all.

1936
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it for You'm like, great, I'll

1937
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: give you twenty bucks. Yeah. And you didn't like, you

1938
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,679
Speaker 1: didn't like and it wasn't like this. Yeah, and there

1939
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 1: was no bachelorette party or like that pressure because you

1940
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: just hear like like I just hear people complaining about it,

1941
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: especially with with bachelorette parties, and then it's like you

1942
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: want to try and make it perfect for this person

1943
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be. And then they come to

1944
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: your improv show and you're like, I don't want to

1945
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: talk to you. The show is not that you and

1946
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:00,840
Speaker 1: your bachelorette party. Oh god, no, I mean, and yeah,

1947
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 1: that's I think I already know who will be in

1948
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: my my bridal party. Was that what I'm calling our

1949
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 1: groom's party party? But it's it's a mixture of men

1950
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:12,320
Speaker 1: and women. Okay, I will not be tied down by

1951
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 1: these all genders, don't ascribe the binary. A fun fact

1952
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: about me, I was married before, and I, on purpose,

1953
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: uh did not want to. I tried planning it for

1954
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: five minutes and hated it, and so we eloped and

1955
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 1: I was like, perfect, perfect, We're eloping. And then my

1956
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: ex sister in law decided that she was going to

1957
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: throw a surprise party for us, but she put it

1958
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: under the she under the guys that it was a

1959
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: surprise engagement party because she knew. The only people that

1960
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: knew were like, my mom knew, and my ex husband's

1961
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: mom knew, and his sisters and it was his one

1962
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: sister did this thing, so I didn't even know about

1963
01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: this engagement party where she invited my dad and former

1964
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 1: stepmom who did not know I was going to be

1965
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: getting married on this moment, the sister. And then while

1966
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: we were we got we eloped in Vegas and then

1967
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,120
Speaker 1: she did this and I found out about this party

1968
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 1: through my mom. She didn't invite my mom, and then

1969
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 1: my dad called. She didn't write my mom by accident

1970
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 1: because my mom was coming to Vegas with me, and

1971
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: then my dad found out about it. She my mom

1972
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 1: found out because my Dad's like, what's this party? So

1973
01:40:23,120 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know about it, but I didn't know is

1974
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: that she was. She then sent an announcement that was

1975
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 1: like while we were like in Vegas, like on the

1976
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,439
Speaker 1: Saturday after we got married, I get a call from

1977
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: my brother. He's like, I just got an announcement that

1978
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:40,759
Speaker 1: says this party is actually a surprise wedding like wedding reception,

1979
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: and I just like, and she registered us. She had

1980
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:52,240
Speaker 1: to go eventually, so yeah, that's the thing. Also, it's

1981
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: because people want to control. That's why I was like,

1982
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I wanted it to be quick and dirty

1983
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 1: and let me deal with my dad add a stepmom later.

1984
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: You know that your your your love, your choice, your love,

1985
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,080
Speaker 1: your choice. Your wedding experience should be if you want

1986
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:15,639
Speaker 1: to get married, off you want to get married, Okay,

1987
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,640
Speaker 1: if you don't, I might not. I probably want, but

1988
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: I might. Wow. Um, what a great episode. We had

1989
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: a great episode here And that was the kind of

1990
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,839
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey from Shannon that really sparked

1991
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: something in me. Well, first of all, we need to

1992
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: we need to happen to you and I need to

1993
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 1: have a discussion about the future of it. Of I

1994
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna keep doing it, but like, do

1995
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: we need something new to sort of like bice up

1996
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: the post. You always think this, and I always say

1997
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 1: I am always wants to make it more difficult. Have

1998
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: people repeated things? There have been a couple of times

1999
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: where but everyone has a different terms to make human

2000
01:41:56,280 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 1: being so beautiful. They're all so different, every human being,

2001
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 1: it's beautiful and they all have a beautiful take. And

2002
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: so I wish you were just making a jerk off

2003
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: every human Thank you. I think I think I think

2004
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 1: we can there's there's a space for I don't think

2005
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:16,439
Speaker 1: someone ney to coexist with other things that also start

2006
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: you bring the listeners in on this. I mean, like

2007
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: you adroom like not all specifically pop culture or it

2008
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: just we we have like these other like I don't

2009
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: think somebody is this beautiful condensed unit of time for

2010
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 1: to express rage at something. I feel like we can

2011
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 1: explore the full spectrum of human emotions. So what like

2012
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: beyond a minute? I do think? No, no, no, so

2013
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:44,200
Speaker 1: like so like we've done, we've done on ours maybe

2014
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: stops up, We've done, we've we've done on our Patreon episodes.

2015
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 1: Um about this, Oh, but it's I think it's just

2016
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 1: as fun and interesting and texture. You can't have this

2017
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: discussion with me in front of the listeners. You have

2018
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: to go through channels. Channels. You have to go through

2019
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: my channels. Who are which are also your channel? I

2020
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 1: refused to speak to you. We need to speak to

2021
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 1: our It's good though, I feel complicated about this. We

2022
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,439
Speaker 1: had do those drags recaps on our Patreon and we

2023
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: say I have complicated feelings about this, and it's for

2024
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: one minute you talk about what your feelings are. Oh,

2025
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: that's so hard for nuanced feelings. They never know what

2026
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: to say because I don't ever have complicated feelings. I

2027
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: always have a strong opinion whether it's right or not.

2028
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,479
Speaker 1: I'll be told later, okay, so and you'll be the

2029
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 1: one to tell me absolutely. But that was the kind

2030
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: of I don't think somebody from Shannon that really just

2031
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: helped just reframe a lot of stuff. And I think

2032
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 1: you sure n help. Thank you. And Shannon is going

2033
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: to be on the other two. The other two. And

2034
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:47,759
Speaker 1: I also remembered eventually Alternatino whenever that very fun shout

2035
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 1: a sketch a couple weeks ago, that very funny. Yeah,

2036
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 1: he's a funny, it's really funny. Show. Brendans Gibbins um

2037
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: Archer what a sweetheart. UM love him so much. We

2038
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: should have him on I show. Actually, I loved this episode.

2039
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 1: I think we got into it. We got into it

2040
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: and now we're going to get out of it with

2041
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: a song and I want Bowen to perform the theme

2042
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 1: song to Zelda. Dude, is that really how it goes?

2043
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 1: That's Zelda? What the words that I remember? That? That's

2044
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 1: like always been her themes, always been her theme. It's

2045
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: when she comes when she is president. You don't really

2046
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 1: get to see her that much. And she has power.

2047
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 1: She could turn to someone else. That's the chic, that's she,

2048
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: that's only anc and you have time just from me.

2049
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: Zelda is a lady warrior, a lady warrior. She's a princess.

2050
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: And then for such a long time, and Lincoln is

2051
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,719
Speaker 1: very here taking the spotlight. I know. Link is in there,

2052
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:56,720
Speaker 1: White links, the little green dude, Links the green Dude.

2053
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 1: But Zelda is like the Zelda is keeping everything together,

2054
01:45:01,160 --> 01:45:04,519
Speaker 1: like Zelda is literally saving the world from collapsing. Link

2055
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 1: is twink nonsense. Link is twink nonsense. A coin that

2056
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I turned, that I turned and Joe Kim Booster is

2057
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: what the tech podcast and really I didn't listen to

2058
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: it yet we we we coined the term twink nonsense

2059
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: nonsense and I said, Ellen giving Ken Kevin Hart an

2060
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:22,440
Speaker 1: apology platform is twink nonsense. Hashtag Ellen is a twink.

2061
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,640
Speaker 1: Ellen is like a twink top though Ellen. Ellen is

2062
01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 1: an alpha twink. Yeah, She's like when he comes in

2063
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: and run ship and you're like, whoa, that's twink really

2064
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 1: fucking was commanding. We celebrate that. And Porsche Derossi is

2065
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 1: a bottom Yeah, I mean yeah, I did Porsche by Ellen.

2066
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 1: That um that preserved with Porsche money or Ellen money.

2067
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 1: It's okay either way. But it's okay either wise. Let's

2068
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,120
Speaker 1: just don't know what Porsche has been up to. Oh

2069
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 1: I think uh probably be probably be writing yeah, being rich.

2070
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 1: She was on Scanal. Let's let's let's murdered. Let's close

2071
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 1: out one more time with the lyrics that you do

2072
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,280
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2073
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