1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the latest from the NATO leader 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: summit in the Hague. President Trump is calling it a 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: major success after finalizing a significant defense spending boost from 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: member states. 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 4: In a very historic milestone this week, the NATO allies 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: committed to dramatically increase their defense spending two that five 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 4: percent of GDP, something that no one really thought possible. 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 5: And they said, you did it, sir. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 6: You did it. 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 7: Well. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if I did it, but I think 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: I did. 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: President spoke at a news conference following the NATO summit, 18 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: or live on Bloomberg Radio. The agreement gives member nations 19 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: until twenty thirty five to reach the five percent spending threshold. 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 8: Nathan. 21 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: Also at the NATO summit, President Trump opened the door 22 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: to diplomacy with Iran after last weekend's airstrikes on its 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: main underground nuclears. 24 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: We're going to talk to them next week. With the 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: run we may shine an agreement. 26 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 9: I don't know. 27 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: To me, I don't think it's that necessary. 28 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 3: The President repeated, his argument that the strikes obliterated around 29 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: to nuclear facilities. An initial Pentagon assessment said it may 30 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: have set the program back just a few months. Bloombergs 31 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: dew Monibor said she has more on where the talks 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: could go from here. 33 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 6: In the run up to this war, five rounds of 34 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 6: discussions had taken place, mediated by Oman by Katar in 35 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 6: order to progress with the nuclear deal. The sixth round 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 6: was supposed to take place a couple of days after 37 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 6: the war began, but of course, at the twelve day 38 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 6: war that ensued, putting back all of those discussions. Now 39 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 6: the US are expressing optimism that the two sides can 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 6: find some form of an agreement. Yesterday, the Special ENVOYE. 41 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 6: Steve Whitcoffe, in an interview, said we are hopeful for 42 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 6: a comprehensive peace agreement. The signs are. 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: There, and Bloombergs dew maniber Sechi, reporting from Dubai, President 44 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: Trump said the war between Iran and Israel is effectively 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: over after the US bombing campaign, though he says it 46 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: could start again and Karen. 47 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: President Trump is once again taking aim at J. 48 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 10: Powell. 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journals reporting the President could actually announce 50 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: a replacement for the FED chair as soon as September. 51 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: He says he has a list of people to succeed 52 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: Powell when his term expires next year. 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know within three or four people who are 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: going to pick. I mean, he goes out pretty so unfortunately, 55 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: because I think he's terrible. We have no inflation, we 56 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: have a tremendous economy. 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: President Trump is called on the FED to lower rates 58 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: by two and a half points. Last week, the Central 59 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: Bank decided to leave rates unchanged in the range of 60 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: four and a quarter to four and a half percent. 61 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: Markets are pricing sixty two basis points of easing by 62 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: the end of this year. The chance of a cut 63 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: next month remains at about twenty percent. 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Nathan Powell wrapped up two days of congressional testimony 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: on Capitol Hill. The head of the FED repeated his 66 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: message that it's tough to figure out how tariffs will 67 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: affect inflation. 68 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 11: The question is who's going to pay for the tariffs. 69 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 11: Originally it's the importer, but it gets passed along through 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 11: the distribution change to some extent of the consumer. The 71 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 11: ultimate question of it is how much of it does 72 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 11: show up in inflation and Honestly, it's very hard to 73 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 11: predict that in advance. 74 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: Powell told the House Financial Services Committee that recent economic 75 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: data is backward looking and many economists expect a meaningful 76 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: increase in inflation over the course of this year due 77 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: to tariffs. 78 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: Karen Investors get a slew of reports to the GEST 79 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: this morning on the economy, and we get a preview 80 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 81 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: Bit by bit, analysts are hoping to build a picture 82 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 5: of the post tariff announcement economy. Initial jobless claims will 83 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 5: be front and center today claims have ratcheted a little 84 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 5: higher in recent weeks. Any rise in unemployment may suggest 85 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 5: earlier fed Rake cuts. We'll also get new orders for 86 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: durable goods. A jump in orders for expensive Boeing jets 87 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: should boost the headline number, but capital goods, a proxy 88 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: for overall all business spending, are forecast to rise only modestly. 89 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 5: That may be another signal the economy is slowly also 90 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 5: on tap today the first look at trade in May. 91 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 5: Imports are expected to drop for a second month after 92 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 5: a lot of tariff front running purchases the first part 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 5: of the year. That should narrow the overall trade deficit. 94 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 5: Michael McKee, Blueberg Radio. 95 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: All right, Michael, thank you. As for the equity markets, 96 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: futures are higher ahead of the Thursday session. Chares a 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: Micron Technology. You're up two and a half percent in 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: early trading. The chip maker is forecasting stronger than expected 99 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: revenue this quarter, citing booming demand for AI related ships. 100 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Kim Forrest is founder at Boca Capital Partners. 101 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 8: I think they really eclipsed what I had thought they 102 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 8: could do in this quarter. Remember the chips that are 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 8: driving their earnings hire sold out for the end of 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 8: this year, which is next quarter, so they're already booking 105 00:04:54,640 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 8: next year's twenty twenty six high bandwidth memory order. 106 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: And Kim Forest of Boga Capital Partners. Micron has been 107 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: one of the chip industry's hottest stocks this year. Shares 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: have gained more than fifty percent so far this year. 109 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: And Karen Fellowship maker and Vidia is trading at a 110 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: record high this morning. It's up another one percent in 111 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: the pre market. The AI Darling's market cap has risen 112 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: sixty three percent off in April low, a rally that 113 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: has added nearly one and a half trillion dollars to 114 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: its valuation, and Vidia has now overtaken Microsoft as the 115 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: world's largest stock with a market cap of nearly three 116 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: point eight trillion dollars and Europe. 117 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 3: Nathan Shell says it has no intention of making an 118 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: offer for rival oil giant BP, and we get the 119 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: very latest from Bloomberg's Ewen Potts Ewen coarenon. 120 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 12: Nathan Shell's announcement today quell speculation of the UK's two 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 12: oil major's Cookabine to take on the likes of Exxon 122 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 12: and Chevron. Bp'sadyrs briefly surged in New York yesterday after 123 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 12: The Wall Street Journal reported the company was in early 124 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 12: stage takeover talks, but today Well has clarified it has 125 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 12: no intention of making an office of BP and says 126 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 12: no talks have taken place in London. I'mium Pots Splinberg Radio. 127 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: Time now for a look at some of the other 128 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: stories making news in New York and around the world, 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 130 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 7: Michael, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. Closing arguments as scheduled 131 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 7: to begin today in the Sean Diddycombe sex trafficking trial. Yesterday, 132 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 7: federal prosecutors asked a judge to strike language regarding attempted 133 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 7: kidnapping and arson from jury instructions, while the rap mogul 134 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 7: also faces racketeering conspiracy counts. Prosecutors said in a filing 135 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 7: to the judge that they understand the court's desire for 136 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 7: streamline instructions to jurors. People are still talking about this 137 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 7: week's political shocker. In the New York Democratic primary for mayor, 138 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 7: a thirty three year old self described democratic socialist State 139 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 7: assemblyman Zoron Mumdani, defeated nearly a dozen candidates, including former 140 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 7: Governor Andrew Cuomo. I'mdani, speaking the WABC, was asked about 141 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 7: democratic socialism. 142 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 13: I think of the words of Doctor King, who decades 143 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 13: ago said call it democracy or call it democratic socialism. 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 13: There must be a better distribution of wealth for all 145 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 13: of God's children in this country. And it gets to 146 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 13: the heart of the matter, which is inequality and my 147 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 13: belief that every New Yorker should have what they need 148 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 13: to live a dignified life. 149 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 7: From Donnie campaign on freezing rent, making buses free, and 150 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 7: opening city run supermarkets. Barring any surprises, Mamdanni will face 151 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 7: the city's current mayor, Eric Adams, who is running as 152 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 7: an independent in November. 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 13: Is a snake oils salesman. 154 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 7: He was say and do anything to get elected. Former 155 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 7: Governor Cuomo has conceded the primary, but he's not out 156 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 7: of the race just yet. He is now weighing his options, 157 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 7: including whether to run as an independent in the general election. 158 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 7: Today Marx ten years since the Supreme Court's landmark ruling 159 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 7: which granted same sex couples the right to marry in 160 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 7: the US. It comes as LGBTQ advocate have worn that 161 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 7: under the Court's new conservative majority, which eliminated the right 162 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 7: to abortion, marriage equality could also be at risk. The 163 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 7: Human Rights campaigns Jonathan Lovetz. 164 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 10: The legal setbacks for LGBTQ people, particularly trans people, are 165 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 10: deeply troubling. But on the other side, the groundswell of 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 10: support for our community to protect our rights is louder 167 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 10: and growing louder by the day. 168 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 7: The Human Rights Campaigns Jonathan lovettz Global News twenty four 169 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 7: hours a day and whenever you want it with the 170 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 7: Bloomberg News Now, Michael Barn, this is Bloomberg Karen. 171 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 172 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports Update. Here's Sean Stashaur John Good morning. 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 9: Good morning, Karen's been a rough couple of weeks for 174 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 9: both the Mets and the Yankees, especially the Mets ten 175 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 9: losses and eleven games. They went from a five game 176 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 9: division lead down to second place. But for one night 177 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 9: of city field and team together against the Braves, who 178 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 9: they were zero and five against. It started in the 179 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 9: fourth inning. Iswuan Soto won one game. 180 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: As we go to the bottom of the fourth and 181 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: he drives. 182 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 13: One at deep right center, fail Becos Harris to the wall. 183 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: It's a hair what pitch the Metsu back in. 184 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 14: Front on one? 185 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 13: SODA's eighteen come out to be here sn wy. 186 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 9: The Sodo blast started a five run inning in three 187 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 9: innings later, Sodo homeward again, his fourth multi home run 188 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 9: game this season. Mets beat Atlanta seven to three. The 189 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 9: series ends tonight. The Yanks salvage won in Cincinnati seven 190 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 9: to one, out hit the Reds thirteen to four. Both 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 9: Trent Christian and Jason Dominguez had four hits to back 192 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 9: Max Freed, who leads baseball with ten wins. Yanks now 193 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 9: have their first day off in a while. They'll host 194 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 9: the A's tomorrow. Red Sox limp home with the five 195 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 9: game losing the streak, beating again by the Angels five 196 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 9: to two. The Socks struck out fourteen times. Nationals held 197 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 9: the three hits, lost one nothing. At San Diego Dukes 198 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 9: eighteen year old Cooper Flag second youngest first overall NBA 199 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 9: draft pick. Only Lebron James was younger, and that was 200 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 9: by eight days. What's so different about Flag? He'll be 201 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 9: the first NBA player born in raised in the state 202 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 9: of me. 203 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 15: It means a lot to me. You know, to have 204 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 15: the support of the whole state, and you know, I 205 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 15: know how, and you showed up today and supported me 206 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 15: at some of the draft parties back home, So it 207 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 15: feels amazing. No, I can inspire younger kids. I mean 208 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 15: I was in their shoes really not that long ago. 209 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 15: So just to know I can give give those kids 210 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 15: those feelings and have the whole state behind me, it 211 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 15: means a lot. 212 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 9: Headed to the Dallas Mavericks San Antonio, with a second 213 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 9: book pick, took Dylan Harper from Rutgers, and another Duke freshman, 214 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 9: com Ki Nipple, went forth to Charlotte, and the other 215 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 9: Rutgers freshman, a'st Bailey went fifth to Utah Nets at 216 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 9: five first round picks. Then Nicks will get to make 217 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 9: a pick tonight in the second round. John Stasheware, Bloomberg Sports. 218 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 13: Karen Nathan. 219 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 220 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 222 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 9: Good morning. 223 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: I'm Nathan Hager. President Donald Trump has left the NATO 224 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: Leader summit in the Hague after sealing a commitment from 225 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: member states to raise defense spending two levels many thought 226 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: was impossible just months ago, five percent of GDP. 227 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: I think we had a great victory here. This is 228 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: an ongoing project. This is the safety of Europe, the 229 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 4: safety of the world. 230 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: President Trump spoke there to post some news conference heard 231 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: live on Bloomberg Radio this morning. We're joined by Bloomberg 232 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: News senior writer Stephanie Baker. Stephanie, good morning. Of course, 233 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: five percent target would be a massive change to Europe's 234 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: security architecture. Can member states get there given the challenges 235 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: that so many of them had just getting to the 236 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: current two percent goal? 237 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 14: Good morning, good morning, You're right, five percent would effectively 238 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 14: mean hundreds of billions of euros of additional defense spending, 239 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 14: but I think it's clashing with fiscal realities. Many European 240 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 14: countries just don't have the scope or the fiscal room 241 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 14: to spend anywhere near that kind of money. And remember 242 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 14: the five percent target is actually three point five percent 243 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 14: on actual defense spending, one point five percent allocated to 244 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 14: defense related infrastructure. So it's all a bit fuzzy, and 245 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 14: France and Italy have opted not to use the EU 246 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 14: rules that would allow them to take on additional debt 247 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 14: to finance that spending. I think the real leader here 248 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 14: will be Germany, which has promised really ambitious additional new 249 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 14: spending on defense and infrastructure, and we'll probably pull ahead 250 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 14: and be a real leader on that. 251 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Well, we heard the criticism from President Trump with Spain 252 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: openly talking about the challenges. It says that they could 253 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: face reaching that five percent target, talking about maybe making 254 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: them spend twice as much on a trade deal. Of course, 255 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Spain's part of the EU. But could this affect this fuzziness? 256 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: Could this effect what's going on in a trade talks 257 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: between the US and the EU? 258 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 14: It could, And for countries like Spain, they'll have to 259 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 14: choose whether or not they want to spend it potentially, 260 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 14: you know, tens of billions more on defense or lose 261 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 14: maybe single digit billions on a bad trade deal with 262 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 14: the US. And I think that's the kind of calculation 263 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 14: many will be making. The NATO summit was really designed 264 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 14: to deliver Trump a victory by agreeing to that headline 265 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 14: five percent figure while getting Trump to reaffirm the US 266 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 14: commitment to NATO's Article five that he would the US 267 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 14: would come to the defense of any NATO country that 268 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 14: was attacked. And it achieved that goal. But I think 269 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 14: they fledged the numbers and that will come back to 270 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 14: haunt them down the road if they are unable to 271 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 14: really deliver that kind of spending. 272 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: What does that mean going forward when it comes to 273 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: putting continued pressure on Russia to ease back on the 274 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: fighting between Ukraine and come back to a negotiating table. 275 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 14: It's incredibly important, and I think that's one of the 276 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 14: things that was sort of sidelined at the NATO summit. 277 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 14: Ukraine needs a new package from the United States for 278 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 14: military aid. What the Biden administration had approved before he 279 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 14: left office is now coming to an end, and Ukraine needs, 280 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 14: in particular, patriot missile defense systems to ward off further 281 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 14: Russian air attacks. Trump said at the summit that he 282 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 14: would look at it, but we are very far from 283 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 14: any kind of deal that would provide additional serious military 284 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 14: aid to Ukraine. And in fact, a lot of these 285 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 14: European countries are counting their military aid to Ukraine as 286 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 14: part of that NATO pledge, which is again another kind 287 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 14: of fudging of these sort of fuzzy numbers, and they're 288 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 14: using the proceeds from Russian frozen assets to finance it. 289 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 14: So there's a real lack of money here, and I 290 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 14: think that is the central problem. Ukraine needs really serious 291 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 14: additional military aid to ward off Russian attacks because Putin 292 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 14: does not seem to have any appetite to come to 293 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 14: the table for a seafire. 294 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Just thirty seconds left. Does all this make it more 295 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: difficult for Europe to put further sanctions pressure on Russia? 296 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Well. 297 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 14: EU leaders are meeting today to approve their eighteenth package 298 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 14: of sanctions, and it's expected to widen restrictions on Russian 299 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 14: banks and Russia's shadow fleet of oil tankers, a proposal 300 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 14: to lower the price cap on Russian oil, which is 301 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 14: set at sixty dollars a barrel to forty five dollars, 302 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 14: a bill that seems dead in the water now because 303 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 14: Trump opposed that, even though most EU leaders were supportive 304 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 14: of it. 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