Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Kaddy arm.
Speaker 2: Strong and Chatty and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3: From the studio scene see signor.
Speaker 4: It is a dimly lit room deep with in the
Speaker 4: bowels of the Armstrong in Getty Communications Compound, which is
Speaker 4: located in California, which plays into a lot of today's showing.
Speaker 4: Today we're under the tutelage of our general manager co
Speaker 4: general managers Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom Tode the brilliant
Speaker 4: leadership of A Los Angeles and b KEL Unicornia itself.
Speaker 1: The mayor and the governor. What a couple of paragons
Speaker 1: of wise governance they are.
Speaker 4: So One of my favorite things that following politics all
Speaker 4: these years is if you're in trouble, you say, now
Speaker 4: is not the time for finger pointing. When you're on
Speaker 4: the other side of it and you see smell blood
Speaker 4: in the water, it's absolutely the time for finger pointing.
Speaker 4: And everybody does exactly the same thing, both parties. Everybody
Speaker 4: had just it flips scripts depending on who's in trouble
Speaker 4: at the time. But if you're in trouble, you say
Speaker 4: now is that time for finger pointing one.
Speaker 1: Of the finest lines ever delivered by thespian Homer J.
Speaker 1: Simpson after he'd screwed up the Simpsons Lives completely.
Speaker 3: We could play the blame game.
Speaker 4: Right, Mark Alpn writes is a newsletter today, hell hath
Speaker 4: no fury like a homeless celebrity. Or put another way,
Speaker 4: he said, a Los Angeles conservative is a liberal actor
Speaker 4: who blames Newsome bass in decades of liberal government governance
Speaker 4: for their houses burning down.
Speaker 3: That could be true. That might play out for quite
Speaker 3: some time.
Speaker 4: La has the largest economy of any city in the
Speaker 4: United States of America. Forty thousand acres so far have
Speaker 4: burned It ain't over yet, ain't even closed.
Speaker 3: Over seventy five.
Speaker 4: Mile an hour wins over the next several days, and
Speaker 4: the biggest fire is still not even close to contained.
Speaker 4: Over twelve thousand structures, homes, and businesses that have burned down.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a stunning number.
Speaker 4: Second largest school district in the whole country down the
Speaker 4: entire week last week, some of it opening back up today.
Speaker 4: Major major disruption, and the loss of life is starting
Speaker 4: to climb up there. Twenty four now, with a couple
Speaker 4: dozen people missing, and then a lot of people had
Speaker 4: been predicting this sort of thing for many, many years,
Speaker 4: as we're hinting at, and we'll hear clips about coming up,
Speaker 4: not being prepared, or funds going different directions, knowing that
Speaker 4: the LA area was a tinderbox and.
Speaker 3: This could happen.
Speaker 1: And for the love of Heaven, can we stop talking
Speaker 1: about celebrities. There are thousands and thousands of just everyday Americans,
Speaker 1: working folks, retired folks have lost their homes. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're extra fascinated that Steve Gutenberg, who's done us
Speaker 1: no wrong. I am not anti Steve Guttenberg, but you
Speaker 1: find it so fascinating that, Wow, he's an actual guy
Speaker 1: with an actual house. An actual fire's actually bad for.
Speaker 4: His actual house.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, Well he'll read Doctor Seuss or something. Oh
Speaker 1: that reminds me. I'm very excited about this. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: maybe our two. I've come across a new definition of
Speaker 1: stupid that fascinates me. How do you praise if someone stupid?
Speaker 1: I love that, and I know it sounds stupid in
Speaker 1: and of itself in one way, but trust me when
Speaker 1: I say, well, it's a thought provoking A mental framework
Speaker 1: to put on human activity.
Speaker 4: It's the flip side of how do you assess if
Speaker 4: someone smart, which is also very very difficult, and what
Speaker 4: that means. Well, the only reason I brought up celebrity
Speaker 4: and I would agree with you any any anybody or
Speaker 4: outlet that tries to pretend it's a bigger deal if
Speaker 4: Sylvester Stallone's home burns down than somebody else's.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: But indeed, anybody who pretends like it's a smaller deal
Speaker 1: because it's quote unquote a bunch of rich people, right,
Speaker 1: you're an ass and I hate Oh that was too strong.
Speaker 4: I APOLOGI so at Halprin's point is they get a
Speaker 4: lot of attention and if they are hell half no fury,
Speaker 4: like a homeless celebrity, they could drive the politics on this,
Speaker 4: no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Oh well, there's the whole rich thing. Though.
Speaker 4: There is no doubt that if you got money you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to be in a hotel for a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks is different than if you don't got money.
Speaker 4: I mean, now, completely different world. And I just heard
Speaker 4: the insurance Commissioner of California. Maybe this's just taken out
Speaker 4: of context, and it doesn't sound as bad as it
Speaker 4: seemed when it was played on NPR.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was their point, but is the.
Speaker 4: Insurance commissioner saying and the last thing people should be
Speaker 4: worrying about is insurance right now? You know, this is
Speaker 4: the time to worry about your your your family and
Speaker 4: whether you know everybody's safe. And I thought, okay, as
Speaker 4: soon as I've counted my family and we're all here,
Speaker 4: my second thought is how am I going to pay
Speaker 4: for all this?
Speaker 3: That's my second thought. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: There was one point I think it was him, Laura
Speaker 1: was trying to make that don't sign anything right now
Speaker 1: because a lot of the insurance company.
Speaker 3: But here's here's settlement. I believe that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, I do not sign anything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you might be in a situation where you got
Speaker 4: no money. You're putting your whole family in a hotel
Speaker 4: for the next week, and you're paying the bill tomorrow,
Speaker 4: and the insurance company's offering you checking you've got no
Speaker 4: other money. I can see how it'd be very enticing.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, So, Yeah, it's nightmarish. And the competition for
Speaker 1: hotel rooms and rental units of any sort has gone berserk, obviously,
Speaker 1: with thousands of families homeless just trying to rent anything
Speaker 1: at any terms, and rents their Skyrocketing's stawful.
Speaker 4: You wouldn't You didn't think that anywhere in the world.
Speaker 4: Some of the most well known iconic everybody's seen it,
Speaker 4: people travel from around the globe to witness its stuff could.
Speaker 3: Be destroyed by mother nature like this, well and a fire.
Speaker 1: I do history tours everywhere I go, and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of used to the old and then the Great Fire
Speaker 1: of eighteen forty hit or whatever, and it, you know,
Speaker 1: torched the town. They had to rebuild, et cetera. And
Speaker 1: every time I hear that, I think, thank God. We
Speaker 1: live in the modern world, modern building materia, materials of
Speaker 1: firefighting equipment, et cetera, et cetera, But no match for
Speaker 1: a horrendous confluence of natural phenomenon in the phenomena in
Speaker 1: the uh in the hills of California, and be utterly
Speaker 1: incompetent leadership right for.
Speaker 4: Years and years, you combine a uh not normal one
Speaker 4: hundred mile an hour wind gusts for several days in
Speaker 4: a row with mismanagement, You got it.
Speaker 3: Well you got what you got, what you're seeing on
Speaker 3: TV every night?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in a helpful metaphor, might be because it
Speaker 1: is absolutely true that the natural, the weather, you know,
Speaker 1: related situation is crazy, unfortunate and very very rare.
Speaker 3: That is true.
Speaker 1: But it's like if I gamble and do drugs all
Speaker 1: the time, I've spent my family, say I've lived a profligate,
Speaker 1: indefensible lifestyle, and then I blow a tire and I
Speaker 1: say to my wife.
Speaker 3: Or broke because I blew a tire? Is that my faults? Right?
Speaker 1: No, that's the story of California is exactly. There's a
Speaker 1: reason people are fleeing one of the most beautiful places
Speaker 1: on earth by the hundreds of thousands.
Speaker 4: Oh, I heard this stat Let me find this real
Speaker 4: quick because I thought this was damned interesting about.
Speaker 3: So here it is.
Speaker 4: There are one hundred and seventy seven thousand taxpayers in
Speaker 4: California that pay roughly half of all state taxes.
Speaker 3: How many of.
Speaker 4: Their homes or businesses were the twelve thousand destroyed in
Speaker 4: the fire? And do you think they're going to sit
Speaker 4: around for the average of five years it takes to
Speaker 4: get permits to rebuild and stay in the state. I
Speaker 4: wonder about that, or at least in the area if
Speaker 4: they were in before. Maybe maybe not. This is this
Speaker 4: is a crowd for a lot of these people that
Speaker 4: have options, and maybe.
Speaker 3: Their best option isn't returning to the same spot.
Speaker 1: The fallout will last for many, many years, and it's
Speaker 1: worth mentioning, especially for folks around the country who are like,
Speaker 1: I get it, there's a fire in LA. This could
Speaker 1: be the greatest natural disaster well, certainly in the top
Speaker 1: couple in US his time. Absolutely up there with like
Speaker 1: gigantic hurricanes.
Speaker 4: Cost wise, it definitely can be a Yeah, it's quite stunny.
Speaker 3: Well, I hadn't.
Speaker 4: Watched a lot of the videos in the last week
Speaker 4: because I thought, you know, I've seen a lot of
Speaker 4: really bad fires. I'm sure it looks a lot like that.
Speaker 4: I was watching a video last night during the one
Speaker 4: hundred mile an hour winds. It looked like it was
Speaker 4: CGI or something. It looked like something from a space movie.
Speaker 4: The way the fire hurricane blow us exploding down the street.
Speaker 3: It was crazy.
Speaker 4: And as I heard some fire chief person somewhere yesterday say,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't have mattered if we had every truck in
Speaker 4: the country here at points last week there was nothing
Speaker 4: that could have been done with that fire in those winds.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that is true, That's absolutely true.
Speaker 1: And it's also true that this will shine a light
Speaker 1: on the horrifically unwise leaders California in LA for a
Speaker 1: very very long time. We cannot let those who would
Speaker 1: prefer sane governance not utterly idiotic, corrupt governance. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that as some sort of hyperbolic talk show
Speaker 1: host trying to be exciting. The depths of the incompetence
Speaker 1: and dishonesty of government in California is it's difficult to
Speaker 1: comprehend if you haven't lived it. But if this will
Speaker 1: expose that, even if the one hundred mile per hour
Speaker 1: gusts made it utterly unfightable, it's still worse. Pointing out
Speaker 1: the question isn't would that particular house have burned down
Speaker 1: anyway if Gavin Newsom were in a complete fraud?
Speaker 3: That's not the question.
Speaker 4: God, I don't know who his body people are, and
Speaker 4: we'll start the show officially, but dude, I think your
Speaker 4: cool guy look does you more.
Speaker 3: Harm than good.
Speaker 4: The unbuttoned tight shirt, the super cool sunglasses, the slickback hair,
Speaker 4: I really think it's doing you more harm than good.
Speaker 4: I don't think you're getting the like Kennedy vibes like
Speaker 4: you think you are. I think you're getting the douchebag vibes. Well,
Speaker 4: he's that much of a DV. Maybe that's just my
Speaker 4: you know, built in opinion of him. Let's start the
Speaker 4: show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this.
Speaker 4: It is Monday, January thirteenth or twenty twenty five. We
Speaker 4: are armstrong in getting we approved of this program.
Speaker 3: All right, let's be.
Speaker 1: Get officially then, according to this SEC rules and REGs
Speaker 1: at mark, does.
Speaker 3: The buck stop with you?
Speaker 6: I mean you're governor of California and inviting it will
Speaker 6: be the mayor of California. We're all in this together.
Speaker 5: We're all better off.
Speaker 3: We're all better off.
Speaker 5: We're all better off, and we're working together to take
Speaker 5: care of people.
Speaker 4: Okay, So that's from today that as you ordered the
Speaker 4: word salad, who ordered the word salad? Well, the main
Speaker 4: word you didn't hear there was yes, does the buck
Speaker 4: stop with you as the governor? Wow? Mayors and there's
Speaker 4: governors and we're all in this together. Wow. Wow, that
Speaker 4: was Kamala Harris esque in terms of they tossed you
Speaker 4: up a ball and you better hit it out of
Speaker 4: the park, and you went.
Speaker 3: With the dods. Oh almena amenahmaa. Not good.
Speaker 4: That will be played endlessly today everywhere. Not just fuck
Speaker 4: good good, Wow, What a mistake that was. How does
Speaker 4: mailbag look?
Speaker 3: It's very good, strong start to the week.
Speaker 4: God, Why don't the leaders all figure out that if
Speaker 4: somebody asks you one of those does the book stop
Speaker 4: you do?
Speaker 3: Always say yes, Always say yes. It never works to
Speaker 3: not say yes ever. Yeah. Yeah, well, he's a weasel.
Speaker 1: It's not easy to get a weasel in human clothing
Speaker 1: and teach him to speak, So they're gonna be flaws.
Speaker 4: Mail Bag come away text line four one five two
Speaker 4: nine five k ftc.
Speaker 3: Are strong. Here's maybe an example of what Joe was
Speaker 3: talking about.
Speaker 4: The house where the doors wrote light my fire burnt down,
Speaker 4: And that's point inter.
Speaker 3: Deeper. Ironic. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4: I think it's nothing. Ironic, all right, clearly ironic, all right,
Speaker 4: with a small eye.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, here's your freedom loving quote of the day.
Speaker 3: He's from Clay Routledge.
Speaker 1: Here's work I did not know he's a leading expert
Speaker 1: in existential psychology.
Speaker 3: Sure he's fun at a party.
Speaker 1: I kid, he seems like a fascinating guy. Actually, in
Speaker 1: my very quick perusal of his work. Here's here's his quote.
Speaker 1: We are living in an era of woke capitalism in
Speaker 1: which companies pretend to care about social justice to sell
Speaker 1: products to people who pretend to hate capitalism.
Speaker 4: That's like the Chris Rock bit. But Lululemon, we don't discriminate.
Speaker 4: He discriminated against the poor.
Speaker 1: Living in an era of volk capitalism in which companies
Speaker 1: pretend to care about social justice to sell products to
Speaker 1: people who pretend to hate capitalism.
Speaker 3: Well said Clay mailbag.
Speaker 1: There's a mail bag at Armstrong and Getty dot com
Speaker 1: from Tom and SoCal guys. Time to take California back.
Speaker 1: No new reservoirs in decades, right generations, a water policy
Speaker 1: that protects a series of species of smelt. Just wait
Speaker 1: for the inevitable changes to water policy to help save
Speaker 1: one bass.
Speaker 3: Oh, I get it, as in Karen, well, we'll play.
Speaker 4: We'll play some of the stuff from the fire chief
Speaker 4: who get a couple interviews over the weekend. But she
Speaker 4: since I don't remember the numbers, but this is close enough.
Speaker 4: Since the sixties, the population has expanded thirty times. We
Speaker 4: have actually fewer firehouses, was one thing she said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shocking, Marina and Sandiego writes, seems you missed a
Speaker 1: good comment from your best buddy, Adam Carolla on gut
Speaker 1: filed Wednesday night.
Speaker 3: Adam Corolla, Michael, we have any armstrong and gededdy.
Speaker 1: There he is, He said, it looks like there could
Speaker 1: be over sixty thousand people would be homeless tonight due
Speaker 1: to the fires, and he could almost guarantee that no
Speaker 1: one would be sleeping under a freeway over passer behind
Speaker 1: a dumpster. They're going to reach out to the network
Speaker 1: of family and friends to help them, Greg added, Yet
Speaker 1: not to people they stole from the get their drugs right.
Speaker 1: Housing is not the problem with the so called homeless problem.
Speaker 1: It's transient drug addicts moving along.
Speaker 3: Darren Rights.
Speaker 1: After a football game today, I caught part of a
Speaker 1: press conference where some government spokeshole was gushing about how
Speaker 1: they're going to streamline the process to make it really
Speaker 1: easy to get permits to rebuild after the fires, as
Speaker 1: if admitting they could have been more efficient all along,
Speaker 1: but they just chose not to be as good luck. Hey, government,
Speaker 1: here's a wild idea. How about you always try to
Speaker 1: be streamlined inefficient the stuff you're deciding to do right
Speaker 1: now to be more efficient, always do that. That's an
Speaker 1: excellent point. I'm not going to pat you on the
Speaker 1: back from momentarily deciding to suck less just because everybody
Speaker 1: is watching.
Speaker 3: Well, said Darren. That's pretty good, thunder brother, love it.
Speaker 1: How about this Ryan in Houston, dear Big Freedom and
Speaker 1: no Pie in twenty five? Uh no Pie, that's a
Speaker 1: good nickname for you.
Speaker 3: Oh no Pie.
Speaker 1: Did Newsom and Warren as in Elizabeth really send their
Speaker 1: followers to donate to Act effing Blue for donations for
Speaker 1: the LA wildfire? How tone deaf could they be? Ryan
Speaker 1: in Houston is a solid longtime correspondent. I thought, wait
Speaker 1: what and I looked it up. Sure enough, Gavin Newsom
Speaker 1: unleashed a new fact check website to combat misinformation, and
Speaker 1: it's on holy cousin disinformation. And it turns out that
Speaker 1: site has a big link to donate to Act Blue,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party fundraising giant.
Speaker 3: Wow awful.
Speaker 1: Finally, on a totally different topic, Joe Biden and Jill
Speaker 1: Hating on Kamala at the funeral JT and livermore Right, So,
Speaker 1: I don't get why Biden's upset with Kamala. If there's
Speaker 1: one person who went above and beyond the call of duty,
Speaker 1: literally the constitutional call of duty, to remove Biden from
Speaker 1: the oval office, it would be Kamala. She had the
Speaker 1: power and the constitutional mandate to remove Biden from the presidency,
Speaker 1: but she never so much as hinted that it was
Speaker 1: something she should do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe Biden shouldn't be mad at her. Of all people,
Speaker 4: Joe Biden given his final foreign policy speech today to
Speaker 4: try to talk about all these accomplishments his life.
Speaker 3: We'll see how that goes and have the highlights. We
Speaker 3: have time for it.
Speaker 1: Wow, if anybody was short on crap, you know what
Speaker 1: we need, honeys, We'll just a little more crap. The
Speaker 1: LA fire chief with a heckumited admission, gutsy admission on Friday.
Speaker 1: Maybe you missed, among other things, on the Waistay with
Speaker 1: its Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: I just saw this fun fact on the TV, which
Speaker 3: I happened to know.
Speaker 4: I've known since I was a kid. Stuck in my head,
Speaker 4: how much does it gallon of water? Way worth knowing
Speaker 4: in case you ever come up with a situation and
Speaker 4: it's myself was fascinated by that very thing. Again, this
Speaker 4: is a number that stuck in my head since I
Speaker 4: was a kid, in case you have to carry a
Speaker 4: five gallon bucket or something like that. Maybe that's why
Speaker 4: I didn't remember, because I was regularly having to carry
Speaker 4: buckets of water for various jobs. A gallon of water
Speaker 4: weighs the same as the average human head, by the way,
Speaker 4: eight pounds. I've never weighed my head now I don't
Speaker 4: have to here, probably weighs a lesson. Yeah, I think
Speaker 4: you do not have the average eman head.
Speaker 3: Neither do I. We have above average heads.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk about above average intelligence coming up a
Speaker 4: little bit or below average intelligence?
Speaker 3: I guess is that right?
Speaker 1: Sort of don't jump the gun there, sir, What does
Speaker 1: stupid mean?
Speaker 4: So I want to play this one more time to
Speaker 4: tease to next hour. I don't know if this is
Speaker 4: below average intelligence, it's below average skills at dealing with
Speaker 4: the crisis. Notice he doesn't say, yes, this is Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 3: Does the buck stop with you?
Speaker 6: I mean, your governor of California, inviding it will be
Speaker 6: the mayor of California.
Speaker 5: We're all in this together. We're all better off, we're
Speaker 5: all better off, we're all better off, and we're working
Speaker 5: together to take care of people.
Speaker 1: What it's like my brand new smart bot like you
Speaker 1: were telling us about Friday malfunction?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 1: Ah, shoot, I got to reboot its speech center again.
Speaker 3: What there was? Play that again? That was odd in
Speaker 3: several different ways. Does the buck stop with you?
Speaker 6: I mean your governor of California, indviding it will be
Speaker 6: the mayor of California.
Speaker 3: We're all in this to we're.
Speaker 5: All better off, we're all better off, we're all better off,
Speaker 5: and we're working together to.
Speaker 3: Take care of people.
Speaker 4: What I say again? He was spinning. His brain was spinning.
Speaker 4: How do I answers?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: You gotta say yes. If you don't say yes, you're
Speaker 4: in trouble. As a president, governor anybody. When a big
Speaker 4: crisis is happening and people ask you if the buck
Speaker 4: stops with you, you got to say yes. If you
Speaker 4: don't want to have a butt or a caveat or
Speaker 4: something to dig yourself out of the hole, maybe you
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 3: You gotta say yes to a large extent, Yes, it does.
Speaker 3: Of course it does.
Speaker 4: I'm the one that can get to the bottom of this,
Speaker 4: so yes, it does. Stop with me. I'm the one
Speaker 4: that can get the answers. I am gonna get the answers.
Speaker 4: Why did the fire hydrants run out? Were we prepared?
Speaker 4: Who's at fall? What policies need to change? That's a
Speaker 4: simple answer. If we fall, if we failed, we're gonna
Speaker 4: call that out.
Speaker 3: We're gonna fix it. Right. But he can't because he.
Speaker 1: Has no.
Speaker 4: Mayor and someone that But when we work together, we
Speaker 4: work together. We worked together, he says, three times in
Speaker 4: a row for some reason.
Speaker 3: All better off.
Speaker 1: When we're all better off, and we're better off. What
Speaker 1: I'm the mayor of California. What he is a man
Speaker 1: portraying a man with character, So this is a good transition.
Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom set up a misinformation site over the weekend
Speaker 4: to combat misinformation. He thinks there's too many people putting
Speaker 4: out things that aren't true, and he's working the misinformation beat.
Speaker 4: As we all have learned over the last several years,
Speaker 4: particularly through COVID, one man's misinformation is another man's freaking facts.
Speaker 4: It's one of the problems, and there is a lot
Speaker 4: of misinformation that floats around, but.
Speaker 3: There are also a lot of facts that float around
Speaker 3: and sometimes get put down.
Speaker 4: His misinformation, which happened with, among other places, Facebook during
Speaker 4: the pandemic, and they wouldn't allow all kinds of different
Speaker 4: pieces of info that turned out to be just flat true.
Speaker 4: Why did that happen? Joe Rogan interviewed Mark Zuckerberd on Friday.
Speaker 4: Unfortunate that this happened on a Friday, headed into a
Speaker 4: playoff weekend, and with the biggest natural disaster maybe in
Speaker 4: American history going on, it kind of got bare. Here
Speaker 4: is a little bit of it, and we'll fill in
Speaker 4: the rest.
Speaker 2: Because during the Biden administration, when they were trying to
Speaker 2: roll out the vaccine program, and I'm generally like pretty
Speaker 2: pro rolling out vaccines. I think on balance the vaccines
Speaker 2: are more positive than negative. But I think that while
Speaker 2: they're trying to push that program, they also tried to
Speaker 2: censor anyone who is basically arguing against it, and they
Speaker 2: push us super hard to take down things that were
Speaker 2: honestly were true, right. I mean, they basically pushed us
Speaker 2: and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might
Speaker 2: have side effects, you basically need to take down and
Speaker 2: I was just like, we're not going to do that, Like,
Speaker 2: we're clearly not going to do that. I mean that
Speaker 2: that is kind of in arguably.
Speaker 4: So this should be a giant scandal. Actually, I came
Speaker 4: across this on Randy Barnett's Twitter. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you know him. He's got a book out that's getting
Speaker 4: a fair amount of attention among legal nerds about originalism.
Speaker 4: He's law professor at Georgetown or George rgin Dinner, one
Speaker 4: of those East Coast fancy universities.
Speaker 3: Super smart guy. He said.
Speaker 4: The Biden administration pressure on Facebook should be a big
Speaker 4: news story and a huge scandal. It should be big
Speaker 4: enough for the Supreme Court to hear about. Mark Zuckerberg said,
Speaker 4: Biden administration officials used to call and scream at us,
Speaker 4: demanding we remove COVID related content, even things that were
Speaker 4: facts or memes or humor. When we refused, we found
Speaker 4: ourselves under investigation by several agencies.
Speaker 1: But that's that's not censorship according to that lower court
Speaker 1: that heard the case.
Speaker 3: That's a giant story.
Speaker 1: I know, I know I was yelling as loud as
Speaker 1: I could yell about that for a very long time.
Speaker 7: It needs.
Speaker 3: I have two thoughts in their kind in conflict. Number one, it's.
Speaker 1: Difficult to get real critical mass in America without some
Speaker 1: buy in from a substantial part of the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: It's just difficult to get the real tsunami going without
Speaker 1: the Washington Post, in the New York Times and that
Speaker 1: sort of media. And there are a number of different
Speaker 1: stories that we're going to talk about today that match
Speaker 1: that description. They ought to be enormous, but you can't
Speaker 1: get them to pay attention because, well, this is a
Speaker 1: perfect example because of how intensely uncomfortable they are with admitting, yeah,
Speaker 1: all the gung hoism during COVID was really misplaced and unconstitutional,
Speaker 1: and we are often on the wrong side of it.
Speaker 1: It's difficult to get people to admit that anyway. The
Speaker 1: conflicting thought is that the idea that you can't get
Speaker 1: things going without at least some participation by the mainstream
Speaker 1: media is getting less true by the day.
Speaker 4: But having out of Zuckerberg's own mouth that they the
Speaker 4: freaking government was calling him up and screaming at him
Speaker 4: to take down fact and if he refused, the Agent
Speaker 4: Sees would start getting on him and pressuring him is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: I mean that just clear cut of case of I
Speaker 4: think first minimum violation, you could practically right up in
Speaker 4: like a made up ethical walk course.
Speaker 3: Well sure, yeah.
Speaker 1: And the fact that they didn't say or will come
Speaker 1: in and destroy your printing press. I mean, because that's
Speaker 1: apparently what it would take to convince, for instance, the
Speaker 1: Washington Post that something terrible had taken place. No, they said,
Speaker 1: you do this for us, or we are going to
Speaker 1: regulate you to death. We're gonna investigate you to death.
Speaker 1: We're gonna screw with you every chance we have.
Speaker 3: Come on.
Speaker 4: Now, there's a fair amount of course of well, hey, Zuckerberg,
Speaker 4: you should have stood up to him.
Speaker 3: You got a big mouthpiece.
Speaker 4: You're the third richest man in the world to say
Speaker 4: this is what the government's doing and pushback. It's easier
Speaker 4: said than done if you're in that position in the
Speaker 4: midst of the pandemic and you happen to agree with
Speaker 4: the administration on a lot of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's true.
Speaker 1: Plus, he witnessed the lock steppery of the major and
Speaker 1: minor media. I mean, except for independent media like ourselves,
Speaker 1: nobody was speaking truth to power. He just he must
Speaker 1: have made the calculation I'm gonna run this up the
Speaker 1: flagpole and nobody's gonna salute, so to hell with it.
Speaker 1: Take down the take down the Great Barrington Declaration, which
Speaker 1: was point by point correct.
Speaker 4: I appreciate Zuckerberg saying some of the things we took
Speaker 4: down flat out fact, and then a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: other stuff that were just jokes or memes, which the
Speaker 4: government obviously doesn't get to regulate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate to be sympathetic to Mark Zuckerberg, who
Speaker 1: I still believe to be on balance evil, but I
Speaker 1: would much rather have him. And I'm pissed off about
Speaker 1: the COVID stuff. I will die pissed off about it,
Speaker 1: which is probably not healthy. But I survived COVID, but
Speaker 1: I'll die of anger about COVID I anyway. But I
Speaker 1: appreciate him being here, even late to the party for
Speaker 1: what reasons, just for the sake of the First Amendment.
Speaker 1: I kind of appreciate the conversation being had late better
Speaker 1: than ever.
Speaker 3: I had another point on that.
Speaker 4: Oh, Zuckerberg went back down to mar A Lago over
Speaker 4: the weekend for some reason and talked to Trump, flew
Speaker 4: his private jet down there, parked it next to Trump
Speaker 4: Force one. He was in a suit this time and
Speaker 4: hard shoes and walked in and talked with Trump. So
Speaker 4: he's he's got some business with Trump. He's been down
Speaker 4: there a couple of times now there in recent weeks.
Speaker 4: And then a different topic but kind of similar genre
Speaker 4: is the whole TikTok thing that's going on right now
Speaker 4: and the fallout from the oral arguments and the both
Speaker 4: sides of whether or not TikTok gets banned. I listened
Speaker 4: to a couple different legal podcasts about this. It's incredibly complicated.
Speaker 4: I mean, he got so far out into the weeds
Speaker 4: of stuff that I don't understand. I didn't even know
Speaker 4: where to start. So it's a long way from a
Speaker 4: flat out free speech issue. It's a long way from
Speaker 4: a flat out China's evil boot them out. It's so complicated.
Speaker 4: But Mike Gallagher, congressman or former congressman, he stepped down.
Speaker 3: He tweeted out.
Speaker 4: TikTok essentially argued Friday that a qualified devestment is impossible
Speaker 4: because the source code and engineering remains in China. That
Speaker 4: pretty much proves the point. As long as TikTok and
Speaker 4: byte Dance are beholden to the CCP, the national security
Speaker 4: threat is too big to ignore.
Speaker 3: But the legal how you deal with that is tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Given God bless us, flowing beautifully from our last discussion,
Speaker 1: Given our worship, worship are our incredible respect for the
Speaker 1: First Amendment right.
Speaker 4: But isn't it interesting that we ended up And that's
Speaker 4: why I put these two together. We ended up in
Speaker 4: a place where for years now, we've let the Communist
Speaker 4: Chinese say whatever the hell they want about America or
Speaker 4: foreign policy decisions to try to sway our young people
Speaker 4: to believe America is in the wrong. Our own corporation
Speaker 4: Facebook was being screamed at by our own government to
Speaker 4: not allow facts to come out. Both of those things
Speaker 4: happened at the same time. Communist party gets to say
Speaker 4: whatever the hell they want. Nobody gets in the way.
Speaker 4: You try to say something that's absolutely true in the
Speaker 4: United States with an American born company and the government
Speaker 4: stops you.
Speaker 3: That's a troubling situation, it is.
Speaker 1: And it's super interesting too, because the Communist Chinese had
Speaker 1: the balls, I don't know, to object strenuously and loudly,
Speaker 1: although they were not on the wrong side from the
Speaker 1: view of the mainstream media, of Trump. Derangements like Facebook
Speaker 1: would have been right, and that is and again you
Speaker 1: will try to explain it to future generations. They will
Speaker 1: not believe you. They will not believe that grown up
Speaker 1: adults would become so childishly angry and against one human
Speaker 1: being that they would deny things that were plainly true.
Speaker 1: If the bad guy said they were false or childlessly
Speaker 1: or true I'm sorry, if he said they were true.
Speaker 4: Or childless, child childlessh hm like a child like in
Speaker 4: favor of the same guy.
Speaker 3: Either way, it ran through the Trump filter.
Speaker 4: Is this good for my guy or bad for my guy,
Speaker 4: depending on whether you hated him or loved him, And
Speaker 4: then that colored everything for some reason for years and
Speaker 4: years and years, and we got another several years of that.
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Speaker 4: My teenage crush, one of the first crushes of my life,
Speaker 4: TV star was tweeting yesterday about Gavin Newsom and looting
Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. Lef't talk about that
Speaker 4: next hour when we get into that topic, She's on
Speaker 4: our soile. I'm very happy that I chose wisely as
Speaker 4: a teenagers an indignation mixing uncomfortably in Jack's inner cauldron.
Speaker 4: Plus next hour, I can't wait to get to this functional,
Speaker 4: functional definition of stupid that I found just super thoughtful folks.
Speaker 3: And here's here's a tantalizing clue.
Speaker 1: This author who I'm going to quote, believed essentially that
Speaker 1: stupid occurs more or less consistently from the very simplest
Speaker 1: people to PhDs.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear this. I love this sort
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 4: So we got all that coming up on the show
Speaker 4: and Katie's headlines next. The fire does not discriminate. I
Speaker 4: might be taking one of Katie's headlines. But the most
Speaker 4: expensive home in the Palisades area burnt down, one hundred
Speaker 4: and twenty five million dollar home ooh, that was used
Speaker 4: in the succession TV series eighteen Bedrooms. They rented it
Speaker 4: out if you want to rent it for four and
Speaker 4: fifty thousand dollars a month, completely burnt to the ground.
Speaker 1: I only know like sixteen people, so I'd have to
Speaker 1: give one of the the better histor of my dog,
Speaker 1: I guess, and a number of the richer folks are
Speaker 1: really pissed off about the policies they've had to take
Speaker 1: for years where they can't fix up the homes, they
Speaker 1: can't fire prove them because the Coastal Commission won't let
Speaker 1: them anyway. There are many angles, many of which include
Speaker 1: bad governance to discuss one of the great disasters and
Speaker 1: American history in the Los Angeles area, plus functional definition
Speaker 1: of stupid. This may further peak you absolutely fits Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: To a tea.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah, and again this is not childish name calling.
Speaker 1: This is like a functional definition of stupid. Right now,
Speaker 1: let's figure out who's reporting what it's the lead story
Speaker 1: with Katie Green.
Speaker 3: Katie Well, just going to.
Speaker 7: Start because I love to kick NBC when I can.
Speaker 7: NBC News Human driven climate change played major role in wildfires.
Speaker 3: God I saw.
Speaker 4: I think it was one meet the press that they
Speaker 4: had that in their opening sentence, like you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 1: Beyond question the fires made worse by climate change was
Speaker 1: like Margaret Brent and second sentence.
Speaker 3: Right, and what would be my question?
Speaker 4: Even if I agree with you, what are you going
Speaker 4: to do over the next fifty years to change that.
Speaker 3: And when's your cult meeting Tuesday nights? That doesn't work
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 7: From the New York Post. Suspect suspect arrested with flame
Speaker 7: thrower near La fire is an illegal immigrant.
Speaker 4: So if they nailed down whether or not he started
Speaker 4: the fire or a fire.
Speaker 3: Well, you want to talk about Okham's razor. What's your
Speaker 3: source for this?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 3: The New York Post.
Speaker 7: Okay, And it was on bright Bart and a couple
Speaker 7: of other.
Speaker 3: Who has a flame thrower.
Speaker 7: It was a it was a blow torch more so,
Speaker 7: but I've seen flamethrow That's that everyone else, right, So
Speaker 7: it's not nitpick.
Speaker 3: From ABC.
Speaker 7: Ukraine claims more North Korean soldiers killed as Zelenski offers
Speaker 7: prisoner swap the.
Speaker 4: First dead North Korean soldiers and live soldiers captured by
Speaker 4: Ukraine over the weekend.
Speaker 3: That is quite a deal. Wow. From the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 7: Hamas has another sin War and he's rebuilding.
Speaker 3: It's the little bro.
Speaker 1: Of the deceased mister Sinwar. He's fifty years old, little bro.
Speaker 3: I don't like his chances.
Speaker 1: No, I would go ahead and make sure your life
Speaker 1: insurance is up to date.
Speaker 7: Premiums page from CNN, Costco pushing back hard against anti
Speaker 7: DEI movement.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Really, Costco's gonna fight it. They're mega defending it. Wow. Okay, well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to look into that story.
Speaker 1: Well, part of it is they and others just don't
Speaker 1: get what they're dealing with.
Speaker 3: More on that to come.
Speaker 7: From Breitbart dot Com. Zuckerberg sanity tour continues. Meta it
Speaker 7: removes tampons from men's bathrooms.
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, Wow.
Speaker 1: It's probably because one's been used in the last five years.
Speaker 3: And that was for a visual joke, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, stupid. Nice.
Speaker 7: And finally the Babylon Bee female fireman rushes into burning
Speaker 7: building to tell victim he's too heavy, but the real
Speaker 7: fireman will be there in fifteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, so maybe you do. Maybe you don't know
Speaker 4: that story. We can get into that next hour. Also, Oh,
Speaker 4: it's something. It's a humdinger. Can you give us a
Speaker 4: nickel version of it. It's the idea of whether or
Speaker 4: not various female firefighters can carry the weight that a
Speaker 4: male firefighter can carry. And the answer from one woman
Speaker 4: last week was, well, then that guy shouldn't have got
Speaker 4: himself in that situation.
Speaker 1: Yes, the answer from the woke, always utterly divorced from reality. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they live in a dream world, they really do, where
Speaker 1: human beings don't act at all like human beings do
Speaker 1: here on Earth.
Speaker 4: So we're going to get into a lot of the
Speaker 4: different angles on that. They're all pretty darned and entertaining
Speaker 4: and Joe's definition of stupid, which I'm a little nervous about.
Speaker 3: It fits like a glove.
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