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Speaker 1: Boy, oh boy, do we have a show for you.

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Speaker 1: Ralph finally watches Outcry seven releases their top fifty college

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Speaker 1: football players Notre Dame, drops USC and Stanford and joins

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Speaker 1: the a c C. The PAC twelve cracks the NFL

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Speaker 1: top one hundred new commitments in the conference, Guerrilla Bears

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Speaker 1: is infiltrated by the Deep State, and two wild PAC

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Speaker 1: twelve stories that you must here. He's Ralph Amston, I'm

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Speaker 1: George Rice Stir and this is the PAC twelve Apostles.

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Speaker 1: an episode of the Pack twelve Apostles, John Canzigno of

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Speaker 1: The Oregonian breaks a huge story about the Pack twelve

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Speaker 1: and it's paid for play relationship with the l A times.

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Speaker 1: We recognize this. We're getting way more details on it,

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Speaker 1: and we will cover it in an emergency podcast episode

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Ralphman, a lot going on in the conference

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Speaker 1: in the last seven days. I mean, how are we

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking forward to the day when we can

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Speaker 1: talk about games again and overlook some of the whackeness

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Speaker 1: that happens when there aren't any games to look forward to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody thought that there would be nothing to talk about,

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Speaker 1: but it has been crazy. Um And next episode we

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Speaker 1: are going to reveal our least favorite fans of each

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve team. And the reason why this came up

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Speaker 1: is because Ralph saw a picture of post malone on

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Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's podcast and he had a utah u tad On,

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Speaker 1: and it seemed very random. Are we gonna go least

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Speaker 1: favorite or least likely? Like, are we at least like

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Speaker 1: invent fan, like if Vin Diesel is a Stanford fan? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so least likely fan of each Pack twelve team? Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we we're gonna talk about that next episode. And

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna start here. A s U is red

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Speaker 1: shirting their entire swimming team because of COVID. How how

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Speaker 1: I think that it's probably what the entire United States

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Speaker 1: shirt year. Um. I realized it's a difficult decision for everybody.

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Speaker 1: What they're gonna do with their kids, what people are

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Speaker 1: I respect how difficult everything is for everyone right now

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Speaker 1: personally on my end, um and and I waffle back

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Speaker 1: red shirting my kids, George. All four of my kids

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Speaker 1: It's not being used to control the population. If you

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Speaker 1: at home all day watching freedom Lovers six nine six

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Speaker 1: out of control for the last few months. UM. At

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Speaker 1: the same time, it's definitely weird. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 1: Man another thing. According to Bruce Felman, I'm just here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just peppering you with stuff right now. You you

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Speaker 1: But the reason why that's notable is the a c C.

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Speaker 1: Washington State player Dominic Sybbils Ralph brought this up to me.

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Speaker 1: I just could not, for the life of me, I

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Speaker 1: this is what you're so afraid of because with the

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Speaker 1: idea that we should believe all victims, I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in that. I believe that we should believe all victims

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Speaker 1: enough to investigate. That's what I believe. And if there's

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Speaker 1: enough evidence then yet cool, then then you gotta do

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do. But the problem is is that

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Speaker 1: I have seen circumstances very close to me where some

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Speaker 1: some of these allegations have not been true. I do

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Speaker 1: believe though, that the vast majority of people the over

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Speaker 1: not even vast overwhelmingly majority of people who say particularly

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Speaker 1: women who say that they had something happened to them, women, kids,

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Speaker 1: all that are telling the truth. However, it's tough because

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Speaker 1: it's like, how do you protect those people when you

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Speaker 1: find out that, even though it's a small percentage of them,

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Speaker 1: you may send people to jail, lose their scholarships, have

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Speaker 1: their namest forever for something that they didn't do. So, Ralph,

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Speaker 1: you can tell us what happened in this story. Um So,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm very very new to this. Um Dominic Sybils

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00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: played at Washington State under coach leach In. I guess

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Speaker 1: he led the team in sacks four and a half

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Speaker 1: seven a half tackles for a loss. Um was headed

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Speaker 1: for a big nineteen and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: he's missing the season for undisclosed personal reasons. Um. It

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Speaker 1: turns out he was accused of rape sexual assault, uh

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Speaker 1: by somebody in his hometown, so not somebody at Washington State.

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Speaker 1: But he's from San Diego. He's one of those people

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Speaker 1: from California that Mike Leach used to love to make

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Speaker 1: fun of their home state so much. And it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a paxwab Apostles podcast if we weren't getting a

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Speaker 1: Mike Leach dig in um inappropriately in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a very serious story. But Dominic Sybbils was accused of

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Speaker 1: rape by an acquaintance in San Diego, and I guess

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Speaker 1: she reached out directly to Washington State and they went

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Speaker 1: through the the process. And from what I can gather

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Speaker 1: through the absolute mess that's going on on his social media,

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Speaker 1: which you can follow, it's still unfolding. It's at Prince

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Speaker 1: Underscores Sybils s I L V E L s UM.

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Speaker 1: He was found liable Um, which again the college system

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Speaker 1: of investigating assaults and the fact that it even exists

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Speaker 1: is absolutely insane to me. If an assault happens, you

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Speaker 1: got you gotta go to the police. Going to the

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Speaker 1: college seems like very possibly the dumbest thing in the world, um,

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Speaker 1: because they have their own adjudication system that has uh

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Speaker 1: provided unjust results for um, both victims and supposed perpetrators

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Speaker 1: alike for decade. It's been a mess. Right. So Dominic

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Speaker 1: Sibyls he has found liable, I think, and he has

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Speaker 1: to enter the transfer portal. And today a second acquaintance

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Speaker 1: of Dominic Sibyls decides to go on social media and

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Speaker 1: release a long string of text messages between Dominic Sibyls

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Speaker 1: and the the alleged victim. Ah. And this girl has

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Speaker 1: screenshots of conversations between Dominic and the woman AH, and

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Speaker 1: she has all of them and she it. Basically, what

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Speaker 1: it comes down to is, I cannot verify the veracity

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Speaker 1: of this um, but within I'll just read you, read

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Speaker 1: you the texts the most pertinent part of it. And

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Speaker 1: again it goes very very deep. But um, here is

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Speaker 1: the text between Dominic and and this girl allegedly. UM.

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Speaker 1: She says, ah, hey, how are you feeling? She reaches

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Speaker 1: out to him. He says, I'm pissed, honestly, and she

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Speaker 1: says at me, and he says, partially, but more at

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Speaker 1: the school because they don't have any physical evidence yet

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Speaker 1: they found me responsible for it. And she says, why

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Speaker 1: are you upset with me? And he says, because if

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Speaker 1: you would have told them the truth what you told me,

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Speaker 1: this wouldn't be happening. And she says, what did I

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Speaker 1: tell you? And he says that you never said no.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to have sex that day and I didn't

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Speaker 1: force you. You made the first move, and she says,

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Speaker 1: and again these are the alleged texts between Dom and

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Speaker 1: H and the quote unquote victim, Dom, I know, and

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Speaker 1: I feel really bad, but I didn't think it would

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Speaker 1: go this far. I was just really mad at you

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Speaker 1: for the things you said to me and how you

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Speaker 1: were treating me. And he says, okay, if you said

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Speaker 1: all that, why couldn't you just email the school and

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Speaker 1: tell them exactly what you told me? And I told

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Speaker 1: you that I never had a video, and you know

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Speaker 1: that that's an element of this that I don't know

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Speaker 1: anything about um And she says, the only reason I

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Speaker 1: didn't tell the school is because I already provided them

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Speaker 1: with so much that I didn't want to go back

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Speaker 1: on what I said and they consider me a liar.

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Speaker 1: And he says to her, okay, but now I'm expelled,

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Speaker 1: and she says, I know, and I wish I could

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Speaker 1: take this all back, but I can't, and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Why can't you? Is the question? If you screw up

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Speaker 1: like this is thing, So if these text messages are true,

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Speaker 1: if these are not doctor and and then her friend

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Speaker 1: put up a snapchat in the well, her alleged friend

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00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: put up a snapchat where they're talking about this suit.

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Speaker 1: Just like this is the problem with some of the

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Speaker 1: um like just with how all this this works is

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Speaker 1: because victims have to be protected. But then you can't

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Speaker 1: just go throwing people out of school over an allegation

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Speaker 1: if there's not if it's not founded. So it puts

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Speaker 1: you in a weird situation because you do need to

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Speaker 1: protect the campus if someone is a predator. But but

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Speaker 1: the second that you do it and somebody turns out

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Speaker 1: to be innocent, you can't unring that bail. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the answer is, but actually my solution

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Speaker 1: to it is is that when you do find out

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Speaker 1: that people lie about these things, they need to be

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Speaker 1: punished harshly because it affects real victims. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: my only solution to a ralph. Yeah and so and

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00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: and this is going to tie into a third story

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00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: that we get into that is even weirder than everything

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Speaker 1: else we've talked about today, but false accusations. Um. I

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Speaker 1: ran this story by my wife and I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to know, Am I Am I saying and thinking the

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00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: wrong thing here? Because is I think every guy is

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Speaker 1: for like, when they realize that this is possible, they're afraid,

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Speaker 1: right Like, when they realize that this is actually something

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Speaker 1: that can happen, they're afraid. And what that should do

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00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: for men. What it should do for men is it

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Speaker 1: should give them sympathy towards women who also have to

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Speaker 1: think of just assault as something that could potentially happen

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Speaker 1: to them in any given scenario. What something like this

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Speaker 1: should do is give us, just all as a human race,

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00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: empathy and sympathy for each other's situation. It should lead

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Speaker 1: to us having more compassion and understanding for each other.

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Speaker 1: But instead, um, it causes us to kind of retreat

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00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: into our corners. And you see, you know there was

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00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: somebody who who Dominic Sibyls is arguing with on Twitter

553
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Speaker 1: h as of yesterday, who said, men, if a woman

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00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: accuses you of rape, even if you didn't do it,

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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: you shut up and accept the charges. Women have been

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Speaker 1: systematically oppressed for years, and you're giving up some years

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Speaker 1: of your freedom. Doesn't compare to the oppression that they've

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Speaker 1: been through. That's a real thing that somebody tweeted and

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Speaker 1: and and Dominic civil said, you're a joke for this

560
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: because he believes that this is something that he's you know,

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Speaker 1: in the process of going through no every situation that

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Speaker 1: the truth matters. I have this sticker on my computer,

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Speaker 1: UM that I have had on my on my computer

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Speaker 1: for the last five years, even bought a new computer,

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00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: tour it off and put it back on. It says,

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Speaker 1: tell the truth, or someone will tell it for you.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that matters is the truth. There is

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Speaker 1: no making up four hundreds of years of oppression of

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Speaker 1: women by men by somebody eating a charge that I

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Speaker 1: shouldn't eat. Justice is the only thing that matters, and

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Speaker 1: it's the thing that we should strive for in every

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Speaker 1: single situation. UM. And the thing that I ran by

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Speaker 1: my wife is like, hey, if I say, if I

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Speaker 1: say that, not that one is worse than the other,

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Speaker 1: but that a false accusation has a different level of

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Speaker 1: repercussions than a credible accusation, of which there is you know,

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Speaker 1: of which justice is dealt out for, because it calls

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Speaker 1: into question the veracity of other women's claims in other situations,

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Speaker 1: Crying Wolf is terrible for women who are actually assaulted

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Speaker 1: and trying to get justice for it. And this isn't

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Speaker 1: similar in that, you know, I fully believe that something

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Speaker 1: as far as the the movie outcry, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: I think Greg Kelly is like trying to walk onto

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: University of Texas is football team now or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Um so that should be interesting because there's still people

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Speaker 1: out there who believe that he did it. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that's not to say that that kid didn't make a

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Speaker 1: credible accusation. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm

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00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: just saying that when you do something like make a

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Speaker 1: revenge claim because you want somebody to hurt because you're

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00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: hurting inside, when somebody actually does have something like that

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00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: happened to them, which what it was, the statistic like

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Speaker 1: one in four women will either be assaulted or have

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Speaker 1: someone attempts to assault them in some way, shape or

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Speaker 1: form like, and you hurt their ability two um be

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00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: believed because you lied. That's evil. It's like pure evil

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00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: as his assault. There is no levels to this. It's

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Speaker 1: all bad. But you know, that was the thing that

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Speaker 1: I was trying to talk out with my wife. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm not meaning to paint one is worse than the other,

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Speaker 1: but I do want to point out the fact that

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Speaker 1: one ruins a person's life and makes things harder for

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Speaker 1: everyone else. And uh, and I you know, I just

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the psychology behind doing something like this.

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00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: I hope it gets worked out. You know, it seems

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Speaker 1: like he wants to play for Washington State University. Would

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Speaker 1: you let him back on the team if this is

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we can prove that these texts are

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Speaker 1: true then and these messages are true, yeah, I'll let

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Speaker 1: him back on the team. I mean, I don't think

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00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: you have a choice, right, I don't know. Because Devon Durant.

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00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: Remember Davon Durant, he was a four star JUCO middle

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Speaker 1: linebacker committed to Arizona State, got arrested for supposedly hitting

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend in the car before what would have been

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Speaker 1: I believe his junior year Arizona State back in and

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Speaker 1: his girlfriend said that it never happened, said that she

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Speaker 1: made a false accusation, even got a local UM ambulance

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Speaker 1: and camera chasing civil rights attorney to hold a press

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Speaker 1: conference saying the entire thing is false and never happened.

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Speaker 1: In Arizona State still parted ways with him, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it was very muddied as to whether or not

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Speaker 1: she saw him as a pay day and realized that

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Speaker 1: her abuse claim could hurt that pay day, or if

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Speaker 1: she was actually retracting a false accusation. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen this happen at Arizona State,

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Speaker 1: where UM and Arizona State's staff was totally ready to

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Speaker 1: back to rant. They were ready to but there was

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Speaker 1: just no way to tell whether or not she was

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Speaker 1: telling the truth, and ultimately he ended up at Marshall.

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Speaker 1: I think, um but yeah, So I don't know. I

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00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know what the right thing is to do. I

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Speaker 1: think she would have to recant publicly. These text messages

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00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: are not enough. Um but and it's completely unfair to him.

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00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: But if they already found him credible. What I'd like

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00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: to know is based on what it didn't happen in Washington,

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00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: happened in California, or it didn't happen in California. I guess, however,

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00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: you want to look at that whole thing. But I

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00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't speak to the truth of the situation.

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00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I can only speak to what I'm seeing right now.

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00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: But people are definitely rallying around him on social media

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00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: right now, and and he has tagged Nick Rolovich in

642
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Speaker 1: University of Washington and his tweets, it's fairly evident he

643
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: wants to go back. Yeah, of course I want to

644
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: go back to I mean, like it's where he wants

645
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: to play to. Um, dude, I forgot something about the outcry.

646
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: I just remembered. I just thought about it where I

647
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: and I told you you this, and people wouldn't know

648
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: unless you know, they saw it on Twitter or something

649
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: that the other kid who that well, the other man

650
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: now that they thought that actually did it was this

651
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: guy named Jonathan McCarthy who he lived with after you

652
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: guys watched the After you guys watched the show, he

653
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 1: was whose house it was, Yes, he was in jail.

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00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: When Greg Kelly got out of jail, Yes, and when

655
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: he got out of jail and my mind, so he

656
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: basically let his friend take the rap for this. And

657
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: he's been kind of a career criminal drug addict all

658
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: of this. And when he got out, he sent a

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Speaker 1: Facebook friend with quest to Greg Kelly and to his

660
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: uh now wife. He let Greg Kelly, it's very possible

661
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: that he did this, and he let Greg Kelly rot

662
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: in jail, didn't come to his aid. He's been arrested

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: sixteen times, including for um sexual assault, which he has

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Speaker 1: already been released having served his sentence for. And yeah,

665
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: he's out there trying to friend him on social media.

666
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Something's wrong with that. The other thing, the other thing

667
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: about Outcry that really stood out to me is the

668
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: discrepancy in what a prosecutor offers to get a guilty plea,

669
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: to get the statistics under their belt and avoid trial,

670
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: versus what the mandatory minimum sentences actually are. Because you know,

671
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: out here in Arizona, uh there was a defensive back

672
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: four star defensive back named Robbie Robinson from uh DA

673
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: Maatha UM. He lived in Virginia but played high school

674
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: football in Maryland. He came out to Arizona State University

675
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: and Um suffered from what was essentially just like crippling depression,

676
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: and uh he ended up leaving the team after his

677
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: freshman year. He played a little bit as a freshman,

678
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: even picked off I think he had a game winning

679
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: interception against u C. L a Um, and he started

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00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: tweeting nonsense. I mean, just absolute nonsense. And at the

681
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: same time, he was lucid enough to be flaming all

682
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: of his former teammates and coaches. So he's ripping all

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Speaker 1: his former teammates and coaches, which basically turns into a

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00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: situation where there's nobody left to defend him because he's

685
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: offended everyone. And he's in the minute the middle of

686
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: essentially what is a manic break. And I reach out

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00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: to him in the middle of all this, and I

688
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: was like, hey, dude, you are right, and he's like,

689
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: I could never be better, and I was like, hey,

690
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to you about it. So we

691
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: met up and I did an hour long interview with him. Again.

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00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: This kid's names Robbie Robinson from Virginia. He was out

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Speaker 1: of Arizona State. He had already left the team and

694
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: left school uh, and he was like doing uh currency

695
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: trading or something like that, living on an apartment off campus.

696
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: And I sat with him in my car for an

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00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: hour and I interviewed him about what was going on

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00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: with him. I found him to be completely lucid positive.

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00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: He made multiple um statements during our conversation that his

700
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: entire goal in life was just to go back to

701
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: Virginia make sure that his neighborhood was good for the

702
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: kids who were coming up. He told me he wanted

703
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: to live well into his nineties and see his grandkids

704
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: come up. He said he wanted to break generational curses

705
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: in his neighborhood and in his life. And he was just,

706
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean pie in the sky talking about all the

707
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: great things that he was going to do with his life,

708
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I asked him, you know, so why

709
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: blow everybody up on Twitter? And he was just like, well,

710
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: because it's true, and you know, And I'm I wasn't

711
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: in a situation and necessarily give him advice that didn't

712
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: know him all that well, but I was kind of

713
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: inspired by his outlook and I felt safe enough to

714
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: invite him at the end of my interview with him

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00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: UM to come and meet my kids and have dinner

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00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: with my family because I figured, you know, outside of

717
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: just my job as a member of the media, Um,

718
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: this was a kid that was crying out for help

719
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: and and I thought that maybe he could use a

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00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: positive male influence in his life. The very next day,

721
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: the very next day, the FBI hunts him down and

722
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: arrests him and he gets charged with terrorism because after

723
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: he left talking to me that night, he tweeted. And

724
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: this was again he he he was tweeting some wild stuff,

725
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: but he was tweeting about how when he was still

726
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: on the team, Uh, just after the first season ended,

727
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: he was suicidal. So he talked about, um, how he

728
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: had looked for a gun so that he could go

729
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: out to Tempe Town Lake and shout out to Tempy

730
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Town Lake which just had a bridge burst into flames

731
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: and a train derail today. Um, so if you're on

732
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: the Herm train, just make sure it's not that train.

733
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: As a as a as a as a little aside um.

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Speaker 1: But you know, he said he went out to Tempe

735
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: Town Lake and and and he was hoping to you know,

736
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: he was hoping to get a gun from a friend

737
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: and end his life. And he also said and this

738
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: is what got him in a bunch of trouble, that

739
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: he had considered taking a gun into the stadium and

740
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: spraying up the stadium. Now that's a terrible thing to tweet.

741
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: It was also past tense. It was him saying I

742
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: was depressed. I had these thoughts I did not follow

743
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: through with them. That's what he was saying on Twitter.

744
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: This was tweeted in February. February, there are no football

745
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: games in February, so it was very obvious that this

746
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: was a past tense tweet about a mental illness in

747
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: depression that he was battling through. He was is arrested

748
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: and charged with terrorism because our Governor Doug Doocy signed

749
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: an executive order that made stadiums the equivalent of federal buildings.

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Speaker 1: So a threat on a stadium or a school is

751
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: now a mandatory tenure minimum in prison. Now, I say

752
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: all that to say this. They offered him several plea

753
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: deals and he ultimately ended up having to take one

754
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: and he is now a felon. Former Arizona State University

755
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: cornerback Robbie Robinson is a felon for tweeting that he

756
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: thought about doing something bad and didn't do it. He's

757
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: a felon because of that, because the alternative was spend

758
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: ten years in prison, take on the system, possibly lose

759
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: and spend ten years in prison. Instead, he ended up

760
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: with like time served and two years of probation, and

761
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: one month ago after this happened three years ago, one

762
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: month ago, he was finally able to go back home

763
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: to Virginia. So the state of Arizona thought he was

764
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: such a threat that they called him a terrorist and

765
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: they were going to put him in jail for ten years.

766
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: Yet they held him on probation in the state of

767
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: Arizona and didn't let him god miles away where he

768
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: would be less of a threat because they were so

769
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: intent on winning this case and getting him to plead out.

770
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: That stuff drives me nuts. And in the show Outcry,

771
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: you have Greg Kelly being offered five years probation. Yeah,

772
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 1: and he turned it down and got sentenced to twenty

773
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: five years in prison with a lifetime on the sex

774
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: offenders registry. And the only reason he got twenty five

775
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: years and not more as he waved his right to appeal.

776
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: That's wild. Like that lets you know how flimsy stuff is.

777
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: They just offer you probation. That is absolutely crazy. Our

778
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: system is a straight up line. There is there is

779
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: no justice. It's a bargain because you could lose and everything.

780
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: And every single time, every single time, I'm taking the

781
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking the time. No way, no way, I'm not Bro.

782
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: I refused to agree to something that I did not

783
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: do I one time in my life, Dude, I did

784
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: that one time in my life. So I was house

785
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: sitting for my parents in two thousand ten. I gotta

786
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: rest it. I was in the house with my my son, mother,

787
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: my uh, and I was getting ready to get up

788
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: and go to church. Bro. It was a Sunday morning.

789
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: It was a wild story, and somebody came knocking at

790
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: my at my parents door talking about somebody like. I

791
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: couldn't understand in what they were saying because turn turns

792
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: out that they were deaf, and they were um spoke

793
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: another language as their first first language. So I really

794
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 1: and and granted, if you've ever spoken to a deaf person,

795
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: you know that there that they can't hear what they're saying,

796
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: so it's hard for them to articulate the same way

797
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: we're used to hearing. And then the English wasn't his

798
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: first language either, so it made it even way more difficult,

799
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand what he was saying and actually

800
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: like freaking me out because it was like five o'clock

801
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: in the morning. Long story short, police come over. I

802
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: um uh, and I was happy to see him. I

803
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: was like, oh god, I was jesting, ready to call

804
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: you guys. I get arrested because they said that I

805
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: had a hundred thousand dollar car parked outside. Have plenty

806
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: of money. They said I broke into their little Honda

807
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: Accord and sold a phone charger and er GPS and

808
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I was and so I got arrested. I was like,

809
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: bro give you to two hundred bucks. Just leave me alone,

810
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean. I told the police come

811
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: and investigate, like look see, and they were like, no,

812
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: we don't we we don't need to. This is a

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00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: citizen's arrested. I was like, what the hell are we

814
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: doing there? D A wouldn't drop the case anything like that,

815
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: and then they and they still wouldn't drop it. It

816
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: was insane, dude, we were talking about over two hundred bucks.

817
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I'll buy the people something. Just

818
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: drop it like it's cheaper for me because I gotta

819
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: pay for this lawyer, and and and my lawyer, who

820
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: was a awful lawyer, was like, well, George, so what

821
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: they're what they're offering is is you'll you'll get probation.

822
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm no, no, I'm sorry. I um you plead no contest.

823
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: You'll get probation for a year. If you don't commit

824
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: a crime, they'll they'll vacate your conviction and turning into

825
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: an infraction. It would be like a speeding ticket what

826
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, okay, yeah, whatever, just get

827
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: it over with. I did that. Do you know how hard?

828
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: This has not come up any other time in my

829
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: life because like, I've had background checks run on me

830
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, and it's never been an

831
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: issue until I went to go get Global entry and

832
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: t s a pre check and so I gotta I

833
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: got denied at first, I didn't appeal, got proved, and

834
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: then they repealed it later because of this one thing,

835
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: because I agreed to something that I did not do,

836
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: and and it's turned out to like, like, and that's

837
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: a big deal because I travel a lot. So I'm

838
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna tell you, rabah, there's not a snowball chance in

839
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: hell that I would ever, ever, ever again in my life,

840
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: admit to doing something that I or plead guilty or

841
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: no contest or something that I even if you were

842
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: facing a terrorism charge, and there was every incentive for

843
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: the state to defend the very first opportunity they have

844
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: to prove that it was the right thing to do

845
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: to make stadiums like federal buildings ten years. Man, I

846
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know, because I'm like you, I got I got

847
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: arrested once for something I didn't do. This. Back in

848
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, my brother broke a drug dealer's window

849
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: because he was My sister was dating this dude at

850
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 1: the time, and he was trying to convince her to

851
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: get out of the house and come outside. He knocked

852
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: on the window too hard and it broke. And I

853
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: got a phone call saying, Hey, your brother and sister

854
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: are mixed up with the wrong people. Can you go

855
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: over to their house and pick them up. I was

856
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: asleep at my house several miles away. I pull up

857
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: to this house and I'm like, Hey, what's going on,

858
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: and immediately get arrested by six police officers. I got

859
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: charged with if trespassing, fighting, criminal destruction of property, disorderly conduct,

860
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 1: as like a throw in thing. I think PPS disorderly conduct.

861
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: What is that? So I get charged with all these

862
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: different things. It was wild and my wife, who was

863
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: house sitting for an uh, she was dog sitting, um

864
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: at the time. She gets a call saying that I'm

865
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: getting arrested. She pulls up to the scene as I'm

866
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: getting led off in handcuffs. We've been married a year.

867
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: I am so happy she stayed with me because my

868
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: family is an absolute mess and this is a pretty

869
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: stuff like this is a pretty regular occurrence in my life. Um.

870
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: This is just the only time that I've ever been

871
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: at the other end of it, because I do a

872
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: pretty good job of mine in my own business. Uh.

873
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: And so you know, I stay all night. I stay

874
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: up all night in a holding cell getting interrogated about

875
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: something that I literally had no I didn't even know.

876
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: I did not know, And they told me They're going

877
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: to charge me with all this stuff. And I was

878
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: facing a bunch of time. And I'm telling you, man,

879
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: if they had said, like probation versus, we are going

880
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: to take you to court and try to put you

881
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: in jail for ten years, I don't know what I

882
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: would have done in that situation. Luckily, my brother showed

883
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: up like eight hours into it with little shards of

884
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: glass and his knuckles and he was like, you got

885
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: the wrong guy, And then they were embarrassed, so they

886
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: let him go to UM And then I rewarded the

887
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: police for letting me go by falling asleep in my

888
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: car as I was backing out of the police station

889
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: because my dad had brought my car down and I

890
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: backed into a police car. So then I had to

891
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: stay for a few more hours while all that got

892
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: figured out, and I just I just that was one

893
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: of the worst days of my life. And I worked

894
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: in education, so every single year I got pulled in

895
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: to say, why do you have an arrest on your record?

896
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: But no charges are no follow up. I had to

897
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: do a bunch of stuff to get it expunged, and

898
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: it was already I just, like you, just a massive

899
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: headache over something that I had nothing to do with.

900
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: But I'm the opposite. I think I would have if

901
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: if it was the difference of like dealing with with

902
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: being in jail or prison or getting to go home

903
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: and just have the hassle of knowing like I didn't

904
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: do this, But I'm on probation. I don't do dumb

905
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: stuff anyway, So I'm not gonna violate my probation and

906
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: It'll be fine anyway. Um, I would have weighed the

907
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: cost because I you never know, you never know if

908
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: they can what they can do, uh, to make sure

909
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: that you're on the losing end, like they did with

910
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: Greg Kelly. And for people who have showtime, you watch this,

911
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna see the lengths that they went to make

912
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: sure that they didn't look at any other suspects. And

913
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like this happens all the time, and

914
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: it is a huge black eye to the legitimacy of

915
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: our justice system overall. And now we got a kid

916
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: Washington State who was probably very possibly facing a similar situation.

917
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: And I hope for the best for that dude, and

918
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: I hope that Washington State takes another chance on him.

919
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: But in the age of liability and everybody tiptoeing and

920
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: being way too careful and me too and all that,

921
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: will they I don't know. And now we we will

922
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: shift gears to something a little bit more more positive

923
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: for a couple of topics. Um, So do we have

924
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: any new Ralph. We don't have any new ratings on iTunes,

925
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: which is disappointing because that's been a very fun element

926
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: of the podcast as of late. But we did, and

927
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: I am super excited about this. We got an email

928
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: from our guy Guerrilla Bears, who kicked this whole weird

929
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: review thing off by dropping us a one star review

930
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: when we went after Morgan Scali for um, well, let's

931
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: just say there's been enough talk about race on this

932
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: podcast already, so um. But he updated his one star

933
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: review the next week, which to me is the funniest

934
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: thing that has ever happened in the history of this podcast.

935
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: So we challenged our friend Gorilla Bears to continue to

936
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: update his review weekly. And you and I were under

937
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: the impression that he had abandoned us, that that he

938
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: had given up on us, and that's not the case.

939
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: He emailed you, George. Yes, So the Guerrilla Bears sent

940
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: in an email and it was I was shocked. I

941
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: was shocked when I saw so he says, I've been

942
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: here in beautiful Camcoon, Mexico for weeks. Yeah, I'm not

943
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: had a chance to listen to the last two episodes

944
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: until today. With that being said, I tried multiple times

945
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: before my vacation to update my review as well as

946
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: bump it up to a two star rating. I guess

947
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: Apple and the Deep State are censoring my review for

948
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: whatever reason. It looks like they're onto me. They have

949
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: removed it and are and are not allowing me to update.

950
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: Here's the review I tried to leave. After listening to

951
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: the latest episode, the host mentioned that I changed my

952
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: review from the one they read on air to garbage.

953
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: This confused me because back when I posted said review,

954
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: Apple never indicated to me that my review was successfully posted.

955
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: I thought Apple had censored my review due to the

956
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: semi colorful language I used in it. So instead of

957
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: retyping my lengthy, my lengthy yet brilliant review once again,

958
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: I decided to save myself sometime and simply simplify it

959
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: to garbage and leave it at that. I was totally

960
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: surprised when the Apostles read my original review on the

961
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: media episode and I just started any thought towards uh

962
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: delayed fashion calling the host. I think I went back

963
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: and edited my reviews to one word just for the

964
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: hell of it once again, And I'm not surprised Duck

965
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: and a wildcat would think, how would waste time? Okay,

966
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: time out, time out from the review because this is

967
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: your fault, and not not that there's anything wrong with

968
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: being a University of Arizona graduate. There are plenty of

969
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: great University of Arizona graduate. Gary Hickling, I think was

970
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: you have a graduate Courtney Kardashian if you're into that

971
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: in a whole Ritchie um Kristen wig Uh that really

972
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: goofy comedian with the YouTube channel from that did American

973
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: Vandal on Netflix? And also um uh played a fireman

974
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: in that Pete Davidson movie. You have a oh and

975
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: two different owners of I think Woody Johnson and Artie

976
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: or whoever owns the Angels you're The University of rus

977
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: Arizona has had some okay graduates, but I'm not a wildcat.

978
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: I am based on my my what my student loans

979
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: tell me, I am a son devil. Okay, So he said,

980
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that duck in a wildcat would think

981
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: I would waste my time with such trivial things, but

982
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: I'll let that slide this time. I have come to

983
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: the conclusion that the deep state is fucking with my

984
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: review because they know that I'm onto them. That's a

985
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: conversation for another time. But at the end of the day,

986
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm a still a Paxwell fan, and what the Apostles

987
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: helped me realize is that we need to stick together

988
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: as fans of this sad conference. With that being said,

989
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: I've decided to bump my rating to two stars. There

990
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: is no particular reason I'm not doing it because the

991
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: Apostles have earned it. I just feel like they need

992
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: all the help that they can get. All jokes aside,

993
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: they do an okay job with the show. I look

994
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: forward to the next installment of this sorry excuse of

995
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: the podcast. I love Gorilla Bears. I do, and I

996
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: didn't notice that we had a two star review that

997
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 1: didn't have an associated review with it, and I was like, oh,

998
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: that's cheap. But it's not cheap. It's beautiful and I

999
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 1: love it and I will cherish it forever. Well, thank you,

1000
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: Grilla Bears, and we are glad to know that you

1001
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: are alive and well. Uh COVID COVID free and we

1002
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: will try to contact the Deep State to get you undone,

1003
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, but it is time for a five star review.

1004
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: That's why you're listening. So seven put out a list

1005
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: of the top fifty pack twelve players and the no, sorry,

1006
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: not the top fifty pack twelve players, the top fifty

1007
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: college football players and they've all been arrested. There are

1008
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: six pack twelve players on this list, and I want

1009
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: to know, Ralph, did they miss anybody? There was penas

1010
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: well at number two, Cavon Thibodeaux from Oregon as well

1011
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: at number twenty four, Javon Holland from Oregon at number

1012
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: thirty four, Keaton Sloga's from USC at number twenty seven,

1013
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden, the dB from Washington at number thirty eight,

1014
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 1: and quarterback from Arizona State Jade Daniels at number thirty nine.

1015
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: So you have six pack twelve players, which is what

1016
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: like of the of the list. Yeah, it's not it's

1017
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: not ter double. I guess it's not terrible. Um, hamilcar

1018
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: Ched is not on there. I think it's pretty bad.

1019
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty And the reason why I think

1020
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: it's pretty bad for the conference as a whole is

1021
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: because is because you only have you you have um

1022
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: what three teams no, sorry, four teams represented out of twelve,

1023
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: You've got three dudes from one school guy from USC.

1024
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: The fact that USC only has one guy on the

1025
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: list is just an indictment on Clay hell One. These

1026
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: recruiting classes one new that means you're not developing talent

1027
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: in the least. USC Washington was young and some of

1028
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: their juniors left. Something not found out today that thirty

1029
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: four percent of the juniors who declared for the NFL

1030
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: Draft last year didn't went undrafted. But that's a side

1031
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: that that's a side. Now most of them were from

1032
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: Washington from laughing, but it's just it happens every year,

1033
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 1: and so you only have four schools represented. I like it, Ralph,

1034
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: I do not like. I don't feel like the conference

1035
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: is where it needs to be at this point in time.

1036
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Northwestern represented, Penn State obviously has

1037
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: a couple of guys on the list, Ohio State, UM, Wisconsin,

1038
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: the big Minnesota, the big team is over this list.

1039
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: And I was saying, oh, well, say it's not a big,

1040
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 1: big team. But um, it's just a lot of schools represented.

1041
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: And I would have liked to see more Pack twelve

1042
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: teams represented. I mean the back of the back half,

1043
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: especially thirty forty is nice. He only got two doesn't

1044
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: have a ton of representation either that the A C

1045
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: C actually probably has more. Um, I think there's a

1046
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: there's a few players that you could definitely make an

1047
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 1: argument for uh in here, and I'm genuinely I'm gonna

1048
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: be honest. I'm piste off about the hamil Car shifting

1049
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: because the pack twelve disrespected is what causes this to happen.

1050
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: The fact that he hasn't gotten this do He's not

1051
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: used as highly as Newton. Nobody out talked to in

1052
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: terms of in shouting or anything views Hamilcar or ship

1053
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 1: nearly as highly as you do. I mean granted his

1054
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: stats in his numbers saying that the main is to

1055
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: we reckon with what for For some reason, they just

1056
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: look at him and they're just like whatever. He had

1057
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: more than thirty three more tackles for loss than anyone

1058
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 1: else in the entire fact twelve in two less games

1059
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: than Bradley and I in. So he's your new So

1060
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: so he is your new Khalil. No, No he's not.

1061
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 1: He Uh see. That pissed me off because with Khalil

1062
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: Tate he was about potential. Hamilcar Rochette has the production

1063
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: in twelve games. He had fourteen sacks in twelve games.

1064
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: He had fourteen sacks in twelve games. He had twenty

1065
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: two and a half tackles for a loss, too forced fumbles,

1066
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: and he broke up the he passes. He was all

1067
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: over the place. He absolutely deserves to be in the

1068
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: top fifty. He produced. Because what you're telling me, George,

1069
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: is you're saying you can't say that the Pack twelve

1070
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: is underrepresented and then say that hamilcar Roched dominated the

1071
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: Pack twelve and therefore doesn't deserve to be on the list,

1072
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,879
Speaker 1: because he's really not all that. Because if he dominated

1073
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve and you're saying that the Pack twelve

1074
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: is um not getting as much love as it should,

1075
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: then all of that should increase. Hamilcar Rasched, stop all

1076
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: of it. I never no one's ever gonna take me

1077
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 1: seriously on this, dude, because we went to the same

1078
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 1: high school. I don't care. The stats are the stats.

1079
01:09:51,360 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: It is what it is. And he so a he

1080
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: he's your new guy family member. You know who else

1081
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: you could probably make an argument for is And I

1082
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: know how you feel. I think you do. You think

1083
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: that he's underperformed to his ability. But Thomas Graham, I

1084
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: think Thomas Graham is someone who maybe is maybe around

1085
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: the sixties time, but you can make an argument that

1086
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: he deserves that type of consideration. And and then someone

1087
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: who definitely has the talent, definitely has the talent, and

1088
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed to see the cross top teach is a

1089
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: Shari cross Will. Shari cross Will changes games when he's

1090
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: in for airs on the stage as a as a safety.

1091
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: He's good coming up and rushing the passer. He's long,

1092
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: he's I think he's at that level, and there's no

1093
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: hesitation to me at all. I think I think that

1094
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: they are on the same level at production, talent, all

1095
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know, man, I'm might I might

1096
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: take McKinley the third out of Oregon first. I mean,

1097
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, I called you don't try to um. Yeah.

1098
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: So the pets Woll got some representation. I think that

1099
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:28,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of people upset because only

1100
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: there were very few schools represented. But it is what

1101
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, the best teams usually get the

1102
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: most representation. I just think that it's very indicative of

1103
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: what's going on at USC that they didn't have anybody

1104
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: on the list. I think that that is like Um,

1105
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: but they should have. They should have Isaiah Pola now

1106
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: on that list. They should he should be in there.

1107
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I think the uh whoa the

1108
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: defensive lineman, the guy's freshman all last year. Um, oh yeah,

1109
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: you're not lying. He's a monster. I don't know why

1110
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 1: his name is escaping me right now, Probably because uh um,

1111
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 1: because a s U fans are still so salty about

1112
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: the fact, oh Drake Jackson, about the fact that he

1113
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: chose USC instead of hanging out with his friends out

1114
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: of a s U. But he was the crown jewel

1115
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: of that recruiting class and he made an instant impact.

1116
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: Um yeah, five and a half sacks in in eleven games.

1117
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: We should We should definitely say that somebody who had

1118
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: five and a half sacks in eleven games is deserves

1119
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: to be above somebody who had fourteen and twelve mr ams.

1120
01:12:54,320 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: Then more of the family. Um the there's another a

1121
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 1: list that came out the NFL Top one hundred lists.

1122
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: And the thing that stuck out, mostly because we're talking

1123
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: about the back twelve is, first of all, before we

1124
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: even get to the pack twelve, the fact that they

1125
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: have Patrick my Homes as the third best quarterback. It's

1126
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: just bizarre. I not that Lamar Jackson can run and

1127
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: all that, but it was just I just could not

1128
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: make sense of the m v P two years ago,

1129
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: super Bowl MVP last year. I mean, the man played

1130
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: on half of a leg for like a couple of games.

1131
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: He's he's he's a superhero, and I don't know what

1132
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: they're telling you. What they're telling you is, don't yo. Yeah,

1133
01:13:55,160 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: if if you put Lamar Jackson or if you put

1134
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson on the Chiefs, that they wouldn't have gone

1135
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: down big in the first half. That's what they're telling you. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait,

1136
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 1: repeat that again. What they are telling you by putting

1137
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Russell Wilson ahead of Patrick Mahomes is

1138
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: that if either one of those two quarterbacks was on

1139
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: the Chiefs instead of Mahomes, that they would not have

1140
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: gone down big in the first half against the fort

1141
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: I can potentially make the case for Russell Wilson. Well,

1142
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: actually no, because we because we saw that happen. Um,

1143
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: I can make the case that Russell Wilson could have

1144
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: won that Super Bowl too. I cannot make the case

1145
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson could have won that Super Bowl. I'm

1146
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: just saying, um, yeah. So let's let's get to the

1147
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: pac twelve players that you found on the list, Ralph,

1148
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: we got top ten. We got a top ten player,

1149
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 1: number six overall, Christian McCaffrey out of Stanford. How do

1150
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: you feel about that he's the number one running back

1151
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL? Until vindicated because I had the

1152
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: I had a debate with some of the coaches that

1153
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 1: I know on the San Diego Chargers staff in that draft. Oh,

1154
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: they tried to tell me everybody Alvin Kamara, who I

1155
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: really do like Leonard for Nett better than Christian McCaffrey.

1156
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys, hate nothing to do because

1157
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 1: he's white. Like it's hard to imagine a white, white

1158
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: running back. I get it with this dude. He runs

1159
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: between the tackles. He didn't do like Reggie Bush, just

1160
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: run straight to the sideline. Uh. In the in the NFL,

1161
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: he was an amazing talent, amazing like special And now

1162
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: I feel vindicated. You feel vindicated. I'm three quarters white.

1163
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: This is a great day. Percent of my culture. This

1164
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: is this is unreal because I think there's a lot

1165
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: of people who thought that he wouldn't pan out. Um,

1166
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: and and and and uh, you know there's a racial

1167
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: element to it. Um. Racism is still allowed in football.

1168
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: It's it's in its own weird way. And no, no,

1169
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: no white running backs, no white d dbs. And if

1170
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: there is a white dB, okay, he'll be be overhyped

1171
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: and overpaid. There there is a offensive coordinator in the

1172
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: Pack twelve who I know personally. Well, actually, this is

1173
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: just gonna be too too obvious. Um, never mind, I'm

1174
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 1: not even gonna tell it's gonna be obvious because I played,

1175
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 1: because I was gonna say he was my offensive coordinator

1176
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 1: at one point in time while I was in the NFL,

1177
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: And I'm just not even gonna say it. So, working

1178
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: in and around sports and you playing college and professionally,

1179
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 1: I think we can comfortably say that they're that stereotyping

1180
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 1: within athletics does not follow the same uh social trend

1181
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: lines of what we're not allowed to do outside of athletics. Yes,

1182
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: and the and the evidence for is there are no

1183
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: white dbs, even though there are people who are definitely

1184
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: skilled enough to to play that position. And when you

1185
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: do get one, they get massive contracts and they get

1186
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 1: to Marry Angie Harmon, even though even though they're just mediocres. Yeah,

1187
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: but no, so Christie McCaffrey, he's he's uh, he's at

1188
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: number six And then the number the next one on

1189
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: the list, I think, is at number sixteen. It's Aaron Rodgers,

1190
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: which so that should tell you something. The Packers go

1191
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: and draft a quarterback and they got a top six

1192
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: teen player on their team. Should they have done that?

1193
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: Should Aaron Rodgers? You know what? You know what I

1194
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 1: would do if I was Aaron Rodgers, because I I

1195
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 1: from what I understand, he is um immensely petty, and

1196
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: I think that he should channel all that pettiness into

1197
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: sighting Corona to sit out the season the way that

1198
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: Nate Solder did earlier today and then see just how

1199
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: how crucial that draft pick was that the Packers made

1200
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 1: take a year off and force their hand. And I mean,

1201
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: it sounds like a ridiculous thing to do, But then again,

1202
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: this dude doesn't even talk to his parents, so could happen. Yeah?

1203
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 1: Who who else we got on the list? Cam Jordan

1204
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: at number twenty three from cal also went to the

1205
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: same high school as me. Uh, so I'm definitely super

1206
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: happy about this. He has gotten better every single year.

1207
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: He's not the most physically intimidating guy. He hasn't had

1208
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: the greatest technique in the entire world, and I wouldn't

1209
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 1: even put him as one of the top guys as

1210
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: far as motor but he does like a B plus

1211
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: job at absolutely everything. And he has ingratiated himself to

1212
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: the New Orleans community in in a way that you know,

1213
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: maybe only Drew Brees has like he They love him there.

1214
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: He's done a lot for the community. Uh. He's a

1215
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: really good dude. And I love the fact that he's

1216
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: a top twenty five player. And if I'm cal, I

1217
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: am hitting the ground running marketing that we have two

1218
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: top twenty five players in the NFL right now. Oh yeah,

1219
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: yeah they already kemp Uh Aaron Rodgers when um when

1220
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: when when they put out cow players have some of

1221
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: the most NFL contract money. Yeah, because Airon Rodgers just

1222
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: signed for a huge deal, and so did Cam Jordan's

1223
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: in the same season. If you add up all the rest,

1224
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: it's not quite as much. So did Kyle Bowler before

1225
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: they had rookie contract structures. So if they want to

1226
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: throw that money in there, as well, they, But then

1227
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 1: they have to talk about Kyle Bowland um when he

1228
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: was playing the All Star Game with because we came

1229
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 1: out the same year. Is it true that he could

1230
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: that the dude is like Uncle Rico with the ball,

1231
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: that he could throw it further than anybody else? Dude,

1232
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: he probably he probably has a stronger arm name than

1233
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: you're wyoming running back playing quarterback for the Bills. I

1234
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: won't stand for it. Ps he made the top one

1235
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: hundred trash, which was trash. Talk to your people in

1236
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 1: the NFL fraternity making these votes. You have these people's

1237
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: phone numbers. You can handle this, dude, if you need

1238
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: to tell you, if you feel that way, you need

1239
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: to tell them, because right now what they're telling you

1240
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 1: is Ralph is correct. These are the same people that

1241
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: have voted for the C B A in general. So

1242
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: I don't trust so. My biggest prize on the list,

1243
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: number twenty eight overall, one of the top TVs in

1244
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: the entire league still Richard Sherman of Stanford. Really can

1245
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: you believe that? M hmm, It seems a bit high

1246
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: for such a guy so old. I think so too,

1247
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: But then again, they put Larry Fitzgerald on here at

1248
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 1: So maybe it's just a respect for the resume. Yeah, yeah,

1249
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: that sounds like I mean, Sherman did have a good

1250
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: year this year of bounce back, but then it came,

1251
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's getting fights with the rail where he

1252
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: was about man corner versus his own corner. But but

1253
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: he is a wily veteran, so I'm okay with that.

1254
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: Who else we've got, uh, the very first Oregon representation

1255
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 1: on the list, number fifty threes, the Forrest Buckner Boom

1256
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: Go Ducks and you just like the one you think

1257
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: that's Yeah, dude, he's a beast. He's one of the

1258
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: better defensive ends in the defensive ends, slash tackles in

1259
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 1: the league, versatile. Yeah, and he ended up getting traded

1260
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: to the to the occult, so you know, but he

1261
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: got his bread, So that's fine. I did skip one.

1262
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: At fifty three. We've got Marcus Peters and he is

1263
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: a husky, right, He's He's a Washington Husky. Yeah, and

1264
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: I've guaranteed they claim him even though they kicked him

1265
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: out of school. Well they would, now, wouldn't they? Um,

1266
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean I would, Yeah, that makes sense. Uh, we

1267
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: got the honorary pack twelve player who I always confused

1268
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: for a Washington alumni even though he went to Kansas State.

1269
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett at sixty. Um, I will I refuse to

1270
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: admit that I'm wrong, and so we will just continue

1271
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: calling him a member of the Pack twelve even though

1272
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: he's not. Who else have we got on here? Um,

1273
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I'm skipping somebody. Keenan Allen Guess from

1274
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: cal Okay. So cal Cal got the most Pack fil

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01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: representation on this list. He's at number seven seven U

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01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 1: c l A's Eric Kendricks three. Okay, Uh, he's only

1277
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: like a third year guy. Yeah, Zach Ertz is a

1278
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: Stanford guy, right, he's number eighty five. I think he's

1279
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: a favoritous player, But but I I sports him. I

1280
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: don't actually hate him. I just sports hate him, like

1281
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: the way I hate any great part is a great

1282
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: human being. I met him multiple times, with a wedding

1283
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: with him, all this stuff, but I forty him. I

1284
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: did not want like I didn't like U c l

1285
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 1: A basketball at the time, and so when he made

1286
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: a shot against Missouri, was like, you, you know, I

1287
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: sport take and I've never had a reason for it.

1288
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 1: But I like legitimately hate. This person is Steve Blake,

1289
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: the basketball player from No Idea, No Idea. I get

1290
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 1: mad just thinking about him, and I have no reason

1291
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: for it. None. And he became an assistant coach on

1292
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns, and I was like, great, now I

1293
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: have to deal with him even more. But deal with what.

1294
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: He's an assistant coach. I'm never going to interview him.

1295
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna see his face. And then they just

1296
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: fired him, and I was like yes, And then I

1297
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: was like, why am I celebrating a man losing his

1298
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,800
Speaker 1: job when I have literally nothing against him. I just

1299
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just have always every time they

1300
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: put him in a game, especially when he was in

1301
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: Denver for some reason, that was like the height of it.

1302
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: And I never I don't have a reason for it.

1303
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: He just I boo him every time he is on

1304
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: the court. And now he's gonna be like a head

1305
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: coach of NBA team someday, and uh, I gotta let

1306
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 1: it go. Probably um who else we got on here?

1307
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, which I feel is a little high and

1308
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm a Arizona Cardinals fan, and and uh he did

1309
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: make a Pro Bowl last year, and I think if

1310
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: you're on a Pro Bowl, maybe you should be on

1311
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: this list. But yeah, he he kind of rounds it

1312
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: out at number number seven. But I think that if

1313
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:38,560
Speaker 1: you look at this list, the school that should be

1314
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 1: the most proud of what's going on here is CAL

1315
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: and unless I skipped somebody, which is very possible, the

1316
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: one that should be oh yeah, the one that should

1317
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 1: be most embarrassed is UH is USC because I don't

1318
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: see a lot of representation from the Trojans and they're

1319
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be the UM school. I guess Tyron Smith.

1320
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith's on here. Tyron Smith's on here a lot

1321
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: lower than he should be. He's at number see. Yes

1322
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: see they are represented. They got something. Um oh, now

1323
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 1: it is time, though, Ralph, for our favorite new game,

1324
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: favorite new game. It is time for today. We are

1325
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: going to start sitting and cut a couple of items.

1326
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: We are going to start sitting and cut the fast

1327
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: food restaurants and PET twelve college towns. So we will

1328
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 1: start with PET twelve college towns. Who are you start?

1329
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 1: Which town are you starting, Ralph? Which town are you

1330
01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: sitting in? Which town are you cutting? Let's start with arts.

1331
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna like this, man. Um are

1332
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: we factoring in the college campus or are we talking

1333
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: about everything? Just what whatever your rationalies? Oh man, I'm

1334
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of a lot of these band

1335
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: We ranked the cities at one time, way back in

1336
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: the beginning of us doing this podcast, and since then

1337
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: I've had the chance to get to know a couple

1338
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 1: of them a little bit more, and maybe my order

1339
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 1: will have changed. But if if I'm starting a city,

1340
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: if I'm saying this city is representative of the pack twelve,

1341
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: like this is the one that we should hold up

1342
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 1: in high esteem, um, above all others. It's gonna be

1343
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Seattle Washington. Seattle Washington preach as preach as or I

1344
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: guess post yes since it's gone. Um, but yeah, I mean,

1345
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: Seattle's got everything, man, It's got absolutely everything. It's got city,

1346
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 1: it's got mountains, it's got you know, fair enough weather.

1347
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: Even though it's a big city. The fans still come

1348
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 1: out in force, which is something that people tell me

1349
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 1: can't happen in l A and Tempe, But Seattle Washington

1350
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: proves them wrong time in and time out, which I

1351
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 1: absolutely love. The campus isn't the best campus. But it's

1352
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: pretty good. Um and yeah, that that's that's all you need.

1353
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: They have everything. The food is good, there's jobs, there's

1354
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 1: there's there's fans, there's the environment's great, the weather is reasonable.

1355
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 1: The only thing I hate about Seattle is every street

1356
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: has some long, weird ass name and it's one way,

1357
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: and there are too many cars parked on the street,

1358
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 1: and if you have your GPS pulled up, it literally

1359
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 1: can't get the name out fast enough before you have

1360
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 1: to do something like if you can't, if you can't

1361
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: just drive those streets without a GPS on, you will

1362
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: end up punching a hole to your dashboard. That's my

1363
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: biggest complaint with Seattle. But I do. I do really

1364
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: like it there. I rather enjoy the city of Seattle. However,

1365
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: you say college town route, So there is only one

1366
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 1: college sound that is truly representative of college towns that

1367
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 1: any city will, any college town in any college in

1368
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 1: America would be happy to have what's going on there,

1369
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: and that's the city of u g Because it's not big,

1370
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:50,560
Speaker 1: it's not fancy. However, the love and support from the community,

1371
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: the way they show up and sell out, the commitment

1372
01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: to the fans, suit all the extracurriculum. Like they everybody

1373
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: there is a Duck fan. It is the definition of

1374
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: a college town. And the world stops when the Ducks

1375
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: are playing. You could drop them in any conference and

1376
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 1: nobody would say, Uh, their fans are kind of weak.

1377
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 1: Their stadium is not very loud, you know what I mean.

1378
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Like they're going to represent any school that comes to

1379
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: come there and play there, and oh wow, it's that.

1380
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: That's a memorable place to play. That's no knock on Seattle,

1381
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: because I do like Seattle. The Washington fans a rabbit.

1382
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: They are, you know they are. I would I would

1383
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 1: say they are top tier packtoil fans for sure. I would.

1384
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I would say Oregon. Then I would say probably Washington.

1385
01:30:55,080 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Colorado fans are good. Yeah, so I would put them

1386
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 1: up there. So when I'm starting Tucson, Arizona, Tucson is

1387
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: uh it's better than people give it credit for. Uh.

1388
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: There there's actually some some kind of hidden gem stuff

1389
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 1: to do around Tucson that the scene has gotten a

1390
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: little bit younger recently. They got a decent little downtown,

1391
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 1: some nice bars. Um. There's people that have written Tucson

1392
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: off permanently that won't even entertain the idea that it's

1393
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:39,679
Speaker 1: gotten better. But it is still the most annoying city

1394
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 1: in Arizona to drive in. UM. It is hot as hell. Uh,

1395
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 1: and the campus isn't all that great, and neither is

1396
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 1: the city comparatively to most there pack twelve cities. UM.

1397
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I do not mind the stadium, even though it's a

1398
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 1: little bit old and um and and not comparatively as

1399
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: as well kept up. I think it's got its own

1400
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 1: kind of flavor and environment. And they do have a

1401
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:22,919
Speaker 1: restaurant called e g S that I'm a big fan of. UM.

1402
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm I'm I'm sitting tuc Son. It doesn't

1403
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: deserve to be in this conversation, so I'm putting it

1404
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: on the bench. I can't argue there, Well, I am

1405
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: sitting the city that I live in. I'm sitting Los

1406
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Angeles because I love the city of Los Los Angeles.

1407
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Couldn't really see myself living on like most of the

1408
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: year anywhere else really. However, as far as the sports go, oh,

1409
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles fans are all. It's just it just doesn't

1410
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: like U c l A, which I have season tickets to.

1411
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: It's just not rabid everybody's kind of les a fair case,

1412
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 1: sera sera, whatever will be will be. Like they get upset,

1413
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 1: but it's not like life changing upset. Like it's not

1414
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: gonna ruin your entire week. So yeah, l A. The

1415
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: reason why I sit it instead of cut it is

1416
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: because I live here and I love the city. But

1417
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 1: I cut it as a pack twelve. I'm sorry I

1418
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: sit it as a pack twelve. You know, college town,

1419
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:46,640
Speaker 1: all right, Eugene, Oregon, possibly the freaking best fans in

1420
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,920
Speaker 1: all of the back twelve playing into me. I respect

1421
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 1: the fans, and it's not I just I don't care

1422
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: for the city when i've because I've been. I've been

1423
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: to Eugene couple of times, and I will say this,

1424
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Austen in Eugene reminds me of parking a lambeau outside

1425
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 1: of trailer. Comfortable saying, as someone who is from a

1426
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,799
Speaker 1: town similar to Eugene, just minus the lambeau outside the trailer,

1427
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: I feel pretty comfortable saying that I'm so upset I

1428
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:36,480
Speaker 1: am getting the city of Tempie because it's not Phoenix.

1429
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: More stuff going on. Oh come on, dude, don't say

1430
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: anything nice about Phoenix. They don't deserve it. That's where

1431
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:50,160
Speaker 1: it's at, Scott's Dales, where it's at I'm living on

1432
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: my whole life. I don't know a single person who

1433
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 1: lives in Phoenix. They tell me there's one point five

1434
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: million people that live in Phoenix. I don't know any

1435
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 1: of them, not a single one. Everyone lives in sub

1436
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 1: suburb of Phoenix, but everyone just refers to all of

1437
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: it as as Phoenix. And I don't understand that. I

1438
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 1: don't know a single person and I never have that

1439
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 1: is actually a Phoenix resident. And I know that after

1440
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: this podcast, I'm going to get a bunch of text

1441
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: messages and emails from people, including like my mother in law,

1442
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 1: who lives in a neighborhood called Ahwatukei, that came up

1443
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 1: with their own name for their section of the city

1444
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,799
Speaker 1: because they didn't want to be referred to as living

1445
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. Because that's how much Phoenix is disrespected by

1446
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: the people that actually live here. I don't care what

1447
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 1: you say about Tempe. I'm a Chandler guy, but like

1448
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't put Phoenix above Tempe. You can't

1449
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: do that. I just I just did it, just like

1450
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: just like Thugene under the bus, Hey I said, you've

1451
01:35:54,439 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 1: got a Lamborghini there. Alright, the next start cut fast foods.

1452
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:06,759
Speaker 1: Who are you starting? You gotta go first on that. Okay, okay,

1453
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: I'm starting Chick fil A. It's an easy start. The

1454
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 1: people are great, the food is fantastic. The breakfast and

1455
01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 1: people don't know this, but you can actually get the

1456
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: the chicken biscuit and into it. And you can actually

1457
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: get the spicy filet instead of the breakfast filet, which

1458
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 1: makes it even better. Or you can get the little

1459
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 1: chicken minis with the on the little sweet bun. Fantastic, dude,

1460
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 1: Like there's They give you as many condiments as you

1461
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: as you want. The food is always hot and good.

1462
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 1: They have lemonade, fresh lemonade. Bro Chick fil A. There's

1463
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: no way you can start anybody but Chick fil A. Yeah,

1464
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: watch me Popeye's, dude. The service and Popeye's is like

1465
01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 1: that of a third world country trying to charge you

1466
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: for extra sauce. Hey, so you're talking about personality, you're

1467
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: gonna say that Michael Jordan's had a rosy personality. No

1468
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 1: he didn't. You get what you get and you don't

1469
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 1: throw a fit. They bring it, and they bring it

1470
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: seven days a week, George, six days a week is

1471
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 1: what makes chick fil a so great because if you

1472
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: don't go, because how many times have you woken up

1473
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: on a Sunday and like, oh, I want to go

1474
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,840
Speaker 1: to Chick fil A, You're like, it's closed a lot.

1475
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: That's a terrible experience. But when you drive by it

1476
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, aren't you stopping? No, because you might not

1477
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: be able to Chick fil A. Being closed on Sunday

1478
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: is like tapping your wife on the shoulder at ten

1479
01:37:50,160 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 1: thirty pm and she's too tired. Like you don't get

1480
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 1: that moment back. You just are left with here. I

1481
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: want you to go to Popeye's. I want you to

1482
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 1: get one of their apple pies, and and then your

1483
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: head Popeye's apple pie and that. So that's why you

1484
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: picked chick fil it. What are you talking about? I

1485
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 1: can get all sorts of milk chicks there, which are

1486
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: better than apple pie. You can't city. I'm sitting five guys.

1487
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: You you put your SI position as somebody who you

1488
01:38:55,960 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: just you know is only out. I put it five

1489
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 1: guys in a position because it's not fast enough. I

1490
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: have to get out of my car to go to

1491
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: fast to to to go to five Guys, and I'm

1492
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: a place in my order ahead of time the way

1493
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 1: it's ready when I get there. But they don't always

1494
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 1: make everything until you get there. They drop the fries

1495
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: again because they double fry them after you get there,

1496
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 1: so then it takes a little while longer. But five

1497
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: Guys is the best fast food burger place period. They

1498
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 1: just they just do enough stuff to upset you that

1499
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 1: you gotta put them on the bench exactly. Five. I'm

1500
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Five Guys pisces me off sometimes because

1501
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: for my family of six to eat there, it's at

1502
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 1: least fifty dollars that shouldn't happen at a fast food place.

1503
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: My favorite thing at five Guys is the hot dog. Right.

1504
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 1: Do you know how hard it is for me to

1505
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: say the sentence I love getting a hot dog from

1506
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 1: five Guys. It is legitimately my favorite place to get

1507
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,559
Speaker 1: a hot talk. I'm not I'm I'm I'm not gonna lie. Uh.

1508
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: But it's also the hot dog is like six fifty.

1509
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Why the fried like give me less fries than charge

1510
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: me a decent amount because killing Cary's filling a whole bag.

1511
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I sent it five guys, and I eat like seventeen

1512
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: handfuls of peanuts just to justify the cost. They give

1513
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,240
Speaker 1: you a billion fries to justify the burger costs or

1514
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 1: the hot dog costs. And they have the stupid um

1515
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 1: what's the what's the soda machine that remix or rewind

1516
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you get all the same sodas

1517
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 1: out of the same spout, so you get whatever soda

1518
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,719
Speaker 1: you want, plus like three or four drops of whatever

1519
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: the person before you had. Oh see I when I

1520
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 1: hit hit soda machines. I really don't drink soda too much,

1521
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 1: but if I have to get something out of there,

1522
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: I let it run for a good second or two

1523
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: before I stick my cup underneath. That's smart, that's smart.

1524
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: I gotta try that. But I'm gonna sit, uh, I'm

1525
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna sit Taco Bell for this bull crap they did

1526
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: with the menu. What are you talking about? They just

1527
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: eliminated a bunch of a bunch of stuff off their menu.

1528
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 1: Um I I'm I'm I'm pretty faithful to Taco Bell.

1529
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I go every time they roll out some new nonsense,

1530
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: like when they cheese dust some French fries and they

1531
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 1: put ten million dollars behind a marketing campaign, um to

1532
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 1: get you to come try the cheese dusted French fries.

1533
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I go and I get them and they're okay, not

1534
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 1: super satisfying, and then I don't go back until they

1535
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,799
Speaker 1: introduced something new. I always go and try the new things. Um.

1536
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 1: But they did have this one thing, a beef meximl

1537
01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: which is essentially just like a soft taco with tomato

1538
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: that they heat it up in a microwave. Sounds disgusting,

1539
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 1: but I've been eating it ever since I was five

1540
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: years old, and about a year ago they got rid

1541
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: of it. Uh. And they keep getting rid of stuff

1542
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: off the menu. Um. And everybody gets mad about what

1543
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: McDonald's does with the mc rib That's how Taco Bell

1544
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:24,480
Speaker 1: treats their entire menu. They just are things are temporarily

1545
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: invested in Taco Bell. Brother, I'm not too investing. I'm

1546
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: benching Taco Bell and never going back to Taco Bell.

1547
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: Plus I live in Arizona. The fact that I ever

1548
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,440
Speaker 1: go to Taco Bell in the first place is ridiculous.

1549
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Mexican food here is incredible, but sometimes you just need

1550
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: to be cheap and quick. And now I can't even

1551
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: get the stuff I like there and that pisces me off.

1552
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I don't side note. I don't fall with

1553
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: text mex text Mexus trash. Um, I am city shake Shack.

1554
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm playing shake shack, shakesheck. Fry suck first

1555
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 1: and foremost. The burgers are pretty good last time I

1556
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 1: was there today overcook my chicken sandwich. Shake Check is

1557
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 1: not in and out. It's like, I like fresh fries

1558
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: and if you give me frozen fries, I'm not really

1559
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 1: feeling it. So that's why Chick fil At is higher. Um,

1560
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:31,320
Speaker 1: five guys is the ultimate fry. Shake Shacks fries is

1561
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 1: just hand and and the burger is tiny like it

1562
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 1: should be like bigger. And yes, shake check is in

1563
01:43:41,479 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: East coast thing that's migrating to to the west. It's

1564
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 1: just not It's just not the deal. It's just not it.

1565
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 1: And then if I had a nuke, I would nuke

1566
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: Burger King because the whopper is just devolved from what

1567
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: it was thunder I'm I'm I'm cutting Burger King, uh,

1568
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: because I feel like there was a time when it

1569
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 1: was okay that weird taste in weird shaped chicken sandwich

1570
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 1: was something I used to like and now that's gross. Um.

1571
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 1: Their fries are below average. They had that weird bun

1572
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 1: that turned your poop black. That was necessary. You never

1573
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: heard about that. I need you right now to add

1574
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 1: to your weird Google history burger king poop black bun. No, no,

1575
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I guess I got it wrong. Green. Why the black

1576
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,960
Speaker 1: whopper turns your poop green? They put the whopper on

1577
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: a black bun for no reason, and people started taking

1578
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 1: green Hits experience was incredibly unnecessary. Everything they do somebody

1579
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: else does better. Everything, shakes, desserts. I'm not really a

1580
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: burger person. I don't really like burgers, but you get

1581
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: a better burger a Wendy's, for sure. Um. The fries

1582
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: are not good. Uh, I'm not into whoppers. Um I've

1583
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: been My wife kind of likes somebody even she's off it. Um. No,

1584
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: if you if you're gonna get a burger, a fast

1585
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,600
Speaker 1: food burger, there's there's a lot of better places to go.

1586
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've never actually had shake shack, and now

1587
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 1: I probably never will thanks to you. That is a okay,

1588
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 1: all right, so that is starting sick. Um. Moving on

1589
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: to the recruiting commitments. What do we have since the

1590
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: last episode in terms of commits in the back twell

1591
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 1: because it hasn't been a super busy week. But what

1592
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: do we have? Well, so what I'm trying to figure

1593
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: out is when's the last time we record it? Because

1594
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, the twenty nine, and I feel like,

1595
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: was it tuesday? Okay? So that's gonna well. First of all,

1596
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State added ten commits in ten days from nine

1597
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 1: different states. What do you think about that? What do

1598
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 1: you think about that? Just national? If they can close

1599
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: them in this sand dandemic, I will respect them, that

1600
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: will be big time. But I just don't understand, Like,

1601
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,559
Speaker 1: it's not like you're getting four star recruits, So like,

1602
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: why are you Okay, you've made the point. You've made

1603
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 1: this point. We don't know what the ratings of all

1604
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: these kids should be because none of them got seen

1605
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 1: this summer. Yeah, none of them. So I don't know

1606
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: what to I don't know what's make of it. A

1607
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: s U S whole thing. And you made a joke

1608
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 1: about this on on Twitter. Was they just wanted they

1609
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: just got a bunch of tall kids? Yeah, dude, they

1610
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 1: are gonna win the Intermaral Championship. Team for for sure.

1611
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:19,519
Speaker 1: They do. Even the kicker is six one. I just

1612
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, at the point to me, you get too

1613
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: tall to play football football, But well whatever, I mean,

1614
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,200
Speaker 1: because some of these kids are still gonna grow unless

1615
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 1: they're all whole backs. I mean, they got six six

1616
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 1: six seven six. I'm like, where the hell are you

1617
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: putting all these giants? We'll find out they did. Finally,

1618
01:47:42,240 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 1: they were the twelve pack twelve team to add an

1619
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,919
Speaker 1: in state commit. They got a dude named Isaiah glass

1620
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,720
Speaker 1: Um from Queen Creek High School out here in the

1621
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 1: far Southeast Valley. His dad played old line at a

1622
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: s U. He's somebody that I thought was going to

1623
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 1: be a defensive lineman. Then they moved in to the

1624
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: tight end and then he just kept growing. Uh and

1625
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 1: I think he can make a pretty good oh line

1626
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: um recruit. We have two additions for the University of Arizona.

1627
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I could go into more detail

1628
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 1: about what happened at Arizona State, but just trust me.

1629
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: They got ten dudes in ten days from nine states.

1630
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. We'll see how it shakes out. They

1631
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 1: said they weren't gonna go national. They ultimately ended up

1632
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 1: going national, which I think is probably the right thing

1633
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: to do, because Herm Edwards is a national brand. That's

1634
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 1: the thing about her Edwards being a military brat and

1635
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:37,360
Speaker 1: an NFL guy. He fits in anywhere. There's not anybody

1636
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 1: in this country that he couldn't have a comfortable conversation with.

1637
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: And when it was Todd Graham, he had a Todd

1638
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: Graham appealed to a very specific subset of of people.

1639
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: A lot of these coaches are regionally equipped. Herm Edwards

1640
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: is not. You know, he's all over the place. Then

1641
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 1: you've got Antonio Pierce, who obviously you know it's from California,

1642
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: spent a bunch time in New York, so they think

1643
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: they can go coast to coast. What we're seeing a

1644
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: lot from University of Arizona, on the other hand, is

1645
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: they are dipping heavy into Louisiana. I think they just

1646
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: landed there. Third fourth commit from Louisiana, Jamarian Peterson six

1647
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 1: to pounds. I think they were his only Power five offer. Uh.

1648
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: And then they also got Jaquez Harvey. And this is

1649
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 1: a commitment that I wasn't even really aware of until

1650
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 1: I looked him up just now. He committed yesterday. He

1651
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: is a three star defensive end from Lock High School

1652
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: in l A. Do you know where that is, George, Yeah, yeah, no,

1653
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:41,000
Speaker 1: exactly where. We're lucky. I've gone there speaking before to

1654
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: some kids there. Okay, so he actually, um, this is

1655
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 1: somebody that they actually did beat out a few other

1656
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,280
Speaker 1: schools like Colorado, Kansas and a s U four. So

1657
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 1: um and he is a six three, two forty pound

1658
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 1: defensive end out of l A. Uh. Let's I'm just

1659
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,640
Speaker 1: checking these teams one by one, um to see if

1660
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: anybody pulled in anybody in the last week. It looks

1661
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,760
Speaker 1: like we got a couple commitments for the University of Colorado.

1662
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 1: Ryan Williams from Pearland, Texas six ft five, two fifty pounds.

1663
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:15,960
Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me of what Lecky Foe two came

1664
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: into the University of Utah at um. And they also

1665
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 1: got a defensive back who is unrated, unevaluated. This is

1666
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: what happens because you don't have a chance to see rivals,

1667
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a chance to see all these kids in

1668
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: personal They got a defensive back named Trevor Woods out

1669
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: of Katie, Texas and Colorado. I was wondering for a

1670
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: minute where they gonna be able to dip back into

1671
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: Texas because they had such a strong connection over the

1672
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: previous two coaching staffs. And here they are. They just

1673
01:50:40,320 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 1: pulled two kids right out of Texas. Trevor Woods is

1674
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:47,800
Speaker 1: a six ft two pound defensive back, a white defensive back.

1675
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:53,719
Speaker 1: By the way this is this has become strangely racial. Um,

1676
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 1: but he is uh. He had he had offers from

1677
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 1: all over the country, including the University of Arizona. And then,

1678
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 1: like I said, they got a six ft five fifty

1679
01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:09,000
Speaker 1: pound defensive tackle as part of this class. And Ryan

1680
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Williams is at of Pearland, Texas big dude, but his

1681
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:16,559
Speaker 1: only other offer was Texas Southern and he is from

1682
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: just south of Houston. So it'll be really interesting to

1683
01:51:19,040 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 1: see how some of these rankings shake out. Because Trevor

1684
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Woods isn't there only unevaluated commit They also have trust

1685
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:32,240
Speaker 1: and Oliver, a defensive back from Iowa who has no

1686
01:51:32,360 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: evaluation either. It's definitely a weird time to work at

1687
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: Rivals or seven or ESPN because you just don't know,

1688
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: you know, if if you're given the right grade to people,

1689
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 1: how they've grown or anything like that. There's gonna be

1690
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,719
Speaker 1: a lot of kids who blow up as seniors playing

1691
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 1: in the spring after everyone's locked down their class. That's

1692
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 1: gonna make these schools like Oklahoma and Ohio State wish

1693
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 1: that maybe they had left two or three spots open.

1694
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: You know. Um, your Ducks got a commitment from Christian

1695
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,640
Speaker 1: Burke Halter out of Alabama. This kid is mad. This

1696
01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: is a massive human being, six ft five pound athlete.

1697
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: Had you heard what they plan on using this kid for? Um?

1698
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 1: I am getting the vibe and I forgot to touch

1699
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,559
Speaker 1: base with my guy, A. J. Jacobson out at Duck

1700
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 1: Sports authorities, but that they view him as a Dion

1701
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 1: Jordan's type. Oh yeah, outside linebackers, like outside, like a

1702
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 1: Russian type. Deal yeah ps ps. I would have loved

1703
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: to see Oregon keep Dion Jordan's at tight end, but

1704
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: that's another subject for another day. It was the first

1705
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: round draft pick. It did not um, and they tried

1706
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: to make him what a four three defensive end out

1707
01:52:54,080 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: in Miami idiots. UM, no wonder that franchise as perennial garbage. Um,

1708
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 1: But like I'm I'm bitter, but I'll get over it.

1709
01:53:03,320 --> 01:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Oregon State landed a pretty decent defensive end commitment three

1710
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 1: star o Marion Famo out of Salt Lake City, Utah. UM,

1711
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 1: which maybe next week we'll get into the fact that

1712
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: maybe next week we'll talk a little bit about the

1713
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:22,880
Speaker 1: last season of Last Chance You and how Oregon State

1714
01:53:22,960 --> 01:53:27,840
Speaker 1: has benefited from uh Laney College. That that would be

1715
01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: an interesting thing to get into. UM. But they they

1716
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 1: add a little bit of defensive line help. UM, so

1717
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty big for them because they're lagging behind

1718
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: everybody else in recruiting right now. UM, let's check on

1719
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,839
Speaker 1: Washington State to see if they have added anyone recently.

1720
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:50,760
Speaker 1: They did Fred Tompkins out of San Francisco, California, a

1721
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 1: linebacker six ft one two and thirty five pounds. He

1722
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 1: had offers from a really weird array of school Buffalo,

1723
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 1: East Carolina, Florida, Atlantic Liberty, Memphis, a bunch of schools

1724
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: on the East coast, which makes me think that it's

1725
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 1: very possible that before he was out at City College

1726
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 1: of San Francisco to Juco Kid, that maybe he had

1727
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: some connections out there, because the only offer that he

1728
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 1: has received from anybody west of the Mississippi, UM, besides

1729
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 1: Washington State is unl we so definitely definitely interesting for

1730
01:54:31,560 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 1: somebody who was getting recruited by mostly East Coast schools

1731
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 1: to come out here and then you know, but then

1732
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: again that was that was his only Power five attention.

1733
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 1: And sometimes that's the most important thing too to a player,

1734
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 1: is making sure that parent the most prestige is a place.

1735
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: Even though I could make an argument from Memphis, even

1736
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:49,720
Speaker 1: Memphis could coming to back twelve and he was not

1737
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 1: an anti um. Let's see here University of Washington did

1738
01:54:55,640 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 1: not have and he commits. Let's take a lot at

1739
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: the USC Trojans for the last week. They're in the

1740
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 1: same boat. There's first eight team commitments, no change for them.

1741
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 1: U C. L. A. Roth the Bruins, who use recruiting

1742
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: class has been a very interesting. Best part has not

1743
01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 1: had a commitment since July night, so they've they've gone

1744
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Uh and uh. The schools lagging

1745
01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,720
Speaker 1: behind everybody. He is Stanford, but they did what they do.

1746
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,920
Speaker 1: They added a tight end who will probably turn into

1747
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Believe it or not. This is

1748
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 1: only a three star tight end and not the usual

1749
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,560
Speaker 1: four or five star that they pull in. But he

1750
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:44,080
Speaker 1: is on the all time name team. His name is

1751
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 1: a Shield Taylor, like as in Captain America's Shield Taylors

1752
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 1: from Alexandria. Lusien six ft four, two hundred thirty pounds

1753
01:55:55,040 --> 01:56:01,839
Speaker 1: also had authors from Arkansas in the University uh Arizona UM.

1754
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 1: As far as evaluations go, that is not the caliber

1755
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 1: of tight end that UM that the cardinal are used

1756
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 1: to pulling in. So that's kind of that's kind of interesting.

1757
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: And I don't know, man, is that is that everybody

1758
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 1: we touched on? Everybody? I think I had to Washington

1759
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 1: schools UM the one school that uh I did I

1760
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 1: leave out Cal I don't remember if I touched on Cow.

1761
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 1: Let's see, Uh, well, so we do a cow six

1762
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 1: ft sixty pound offensive lineman named Ryan Lang out of Pittsburgh, California.

1763
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 1: UM Pittsburgh, California is the home to a lot of

1764
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: talented football players in the north central area of of California.

1765
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: And believe it or not, it was Angus McClure doing

1766
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: the recruiting. Angus McLure, who had spent the last couple

1767
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: of years at University of Nevada back in the Pack

1768
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 1: twelve doing some damage. He lands Ryan Lane over Arizona

1769
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 1: and Arizona State and Colorado State, which is our most

1770
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: recent college to have a massive outbreak of COVID nineteen infections. Um. Yeah,

1771
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: so that's the that's a recruiting update for the PAC

1772
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: twelve this week. I shouldn't have said. I should have

1773
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: let him believe I was a wildcat because I don't

1774
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 1: think Utah fans have any problems with you have a

1775
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,320
Speaker 1: Utah and a s U fans have have not had

1776
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: a good run the last couple of years. And I

1777
01:57:21,680 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 1: don't make it. I I don't help because I I

1778
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 1: my rivalry. I love the state of Utah, and I

1779
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 1: Wassach Brewery is. As someone who is allergic to beer,

1780
01:57:30,880 --> 01:57:33,160
Speaker 1: I can only drink the blueberry half of whites and

1781
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:36,680
Speaker 1: from Wassach Brewery without you know, anything else makes me

1782
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: break out in hives. And uh and and I very

1783
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 1: much love bear Lake and Garden City and and uh

1784
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 1: in Park City. I was just there a couple of

1785
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Utah is beautiful. I hate the Utah Jazz though. Oh.

1786
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of Utah, I sent you the screen shot that

1787
01:57:56,200 --> 01:58:01,360
Speaker 1: Utah Pigs followed me on Twitter. That is that is

1788
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 1: an all time Twitter meltdown if if you were not

1789
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 1: aware of it. There is a person who has a

1790
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: popular Utah Sports Twitter account. We talked, Yeah, he runs

1791
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:20,400
Speaker 1: a food truck. And his idea, which was an interesting idea.

1792
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,680
Speaker 1: Um probably you should have stayed on the shelf, though,

1793
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 1: was to use the N word as many times as

1794
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: he possibly could in order to take the stigma away

1795
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: from Morgan Scali using it um and and is an

1796
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 1: all time Hall of Fame meltdown and the fact that

1797
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: he follows you. Now maybe he'll listen to this podcast

1798
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 1: and to him, I say, don't ever do that again.

1799
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Agree with that sentiment. The last thing that we have

1800
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:58,760
Speaker 1: up is bolla, dude, I don't want to talk about this, Okay, okay,

1801
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 1: well we should we not? I we? I mean, should

1802
01:59:02,920 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: we just stick to the football side of it? I

1803
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 1: mean it's important. We will all right here, here's here's

1804
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 1: what we should do. I think the most objective thing

1805
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 1: to do is for us to wait until we get

1806
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 1: more information because Edgar Barola, so give the people the highlight,

1807
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 1: the foot view version, and then we will try to

1808
01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 1: gather more facts for the next episode to give you

1809
01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: something substantial that we can either you know, like have

1810
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 1: a take on our Uh, you know, have more concrete

1811
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 1: information about Yeah, I not only do I hate this story.

1812
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: I called you about this story the moment that I

1813
01:59:46,080 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: saw it, because it was like it just touches on

1814
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of weird side conversations you and I have

1815
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: on the phone all the time. UM. Edgar Barola is

1816
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,840
Speaker 1: somebody who started six games on the offensive line for

1817
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 1: University of Arizona last year. Um. He is somebody from

1818
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 1: Desert Pines High School in Nevada. He committed to you

1819
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:11,840
Speaker 1: of a along with Tony Fields, who is probably gonna

1820
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 1: be one of the best returning defensive players, and has

1821
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: since decided to transfer out of the Pack twelve altogether.

1822
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:22,400
Speaker 1: Edgar bought himself a house down in Tucson and was

1823
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:26,400
Speaker 1: using his stipend money to pay his mortgage. And he

1824
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 1: is also somebody that believes very strongly that the COVID

1825
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: crisis is overblown. Uh. He also believes a lot of

1826
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 1: weird conspiracy theory stuff that will leave out of the

1827
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: conversation for the time being. He violated the protocol that

1828
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: was put in place by Kevin Sumlin and the staff

1829
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 1: several times. He's admitted to it. He's admitted to not

1830
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,960
Speaker 1: wearing a mask. He's admitted to being put on quarantine

1831
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:56,240
Speaker 1: and going out to get a meal two different times,

1832
02:00:56,760 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 1: going out to get a meal once and then helping

1833
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:05,200
Speaker 1: somebody move another time. Um he Uh, He's been pretty

1834
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,160
Speaker 1: wild on Twitter for the last three months, if I'm

1835
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:11,800
Speaker 1: being honest, and he solicited the help of like a

1836
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:15,800
Speaker 1: social justice uh social media account that's pretty popular down

1837
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:22,520
Speaker 1: in Tucson to say that the Wildcats reduced his scholarship

1838
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:26,360
Speaker 1: and cut off his meal plan because he didn't feel

1839
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:32,040
Speaker 1: safe playing under the conditions, Um that are in place. Now,

1840
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on here. Thing Number one, Edgar

1841
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: Barola had tweeted that he thought COVID was not real.

1842
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Now he's saying that he believes that it's real, but

1843
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 1: it's overblown and that the real part of it is

1844
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 1: being mishandled by University of Arizona. He believes that masks

1845
02:01:51,480 --> 02:01:56,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't be super necessary, that the players should be taking

1846
02:01:56,080 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 1: hydroxy chloroquin because of stuff he read on the internet. Um.

1847
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 1: He also, I guess had a shoulder injury misdiagnosed that

1848
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 1: he had to his family had to pay out of

1849
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 1: pocket to get a labor surgery that they told him

1850
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 1: was a bone bruise, So he doesn't trust the same

1851
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: medical staff that misdiagnosed his shoulder injury to handle the

1852
02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:22,760
Speaker 1: COVID stuff. UM. And the thing about it that could

1853
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 1: really blow this up and make it a national story

1854
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 1: is this guy is essentially not He's not a pro

1855
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:33,000
Speaker 1: Trump conservative. He's pro Trump for a whole list of

1856
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:37,680
Speaker 1: other reasons that get into some weird conspiracy theory territory.

1857
02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:43,400
Speaker 1: But he is pro Trump, like he he um, he

1858
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,760
Speaker 1: is pro Trump. And I think a national media outlet

1859
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,520
Speaker 1: could look at this and say, you have somebody who's

1860
02:02:48,560 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 1: pro Trump, who's taking the things that Trump talks about,

1861
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 1: and he's getting punished for his political beliefs. But he

1862
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,880
Speaker 1: has admitted to he broke protocol and because of that,

1863
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: they're taking his money away. He says, is afraid that

1864
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:02,760
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to pay his mortgage. He's

1865
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,440
Speaker 1: not able to be on a meal plan. He's gone

1866
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: back to Nevada to work in roofing to be able

1867
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: to pay his bills. He's currently suspended from the team.

1868
02:03:10,480 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: Will find out if it's permanent or not. But he's

1869
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 1: like tagging his coaches on Twitter and on social media

1870
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 1: and fighting with journalists. He did a local news show,

1871
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 1: uh down here. He's talked to different people. We had

1872
02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,640
Speaker 1: disguised touch base with him. We had talked about potentially

1873
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: having him on this podcast. I don't think that's a

1874
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 1: good idea, UM not that part of his The part

1875
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:36,560
Speaker 1: that's legitimate is that like, the doctors need to be

1876
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:39,600
Speaker 1: on top of this. The part that's illegitimate is that

1877
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 1: he believes that the doctors are not on top of this,

1878
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 1: not only because of his experience, but because he has

1879
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 1: political beliefs that are steeped in some pretty weird conspiracy

1880
02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 1: theories that are affecting the way that he's looking at

1881
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 1: everything that's going on right now. It's not to say

1882
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:58,680
Speaker 1: that some of his points aren't legitimate about whether or

1883
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 1: not University of Arizona should be approaching things the way

1884
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 1: that they're approaching things. Those concerns can still be legitimate,

1885
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:12,920
Speaker 1: despite the source for his concerns being very, very sketchy.

1886
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:16,440
Speaker 1: I want to see how this plays out. I feel

1887
02:04:16,440 --> 02:04:19,760
Speaker 1: like it could blow up into a national, super weird,

1888
02:04:19,840 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: politicized thing. I think someone jokingly tagged him and said, like, hey,

1889
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 1: Clay Travis, you need to have this dude on and

1890
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,960
Speaker 1: he like retweeted, He's all for it. He's all for

1891
02:04:30,040 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: the attention this year old who I think is into

1892
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:37,440
Speaker 1: some stuff that he doesn't fully understand, and it could

1893
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 1: get weird and ugly real quick. Or they could reconcile

1894
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 1: and they could figure things out, which is what I'm

1895
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:47,240
Speaker 1: hoping for. But as it stands right now, you've got

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Speaker 1: a kid who believes some very questionable things, allowing those

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Speaker 1: beliefs to dictate his attitude towards his school. But his

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Speaker 1: attitude towards his school might can it might contain some

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Speaker 1: legitimate concerns, especially when it comes down to whether or

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Speaker 1: not you trust the doctors after they misdiagnosed you for

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Speaker 1: a serious injury. Yeah, I don't know. I think that

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Speaker 1: there is way more to get to with that. But

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Speaker 1: with that being said, we thank you guys for listening

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Speaker 1: to the Pack Twalve Apostles. We appreciate your time, appreciate

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Speaker 1: your energy. Make sure that you share with the frame.

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Speaker 1: Tell a friend about the packs Twalve Apostles. Peace out,

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Speaker 1: catch you guys next episode. Kay