1 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Renee Stubs Tens podcast and 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: popping in the corner. Yeah, look at look, I've got 3 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: a special guest for us today, mister Todd Woodbridge. Nine 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: time Wimbledon doubles champion. How many times you win the 5 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: mixt only once? Really? 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? Very famously lost a final with six match points 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: in the time break. Oh I remember that much, friend, 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: Elisia Mollick. So yeah, nine men's and one runner up 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: in the men's and one win, so you were nine 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: from ten in the men's doubles. Shouldn't have lost that 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: one either, because that was ten eight and the fifth 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: who are you blaming that on? No, I lost my serve, 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: which was generally who lost serve in our partnership, and 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: at nine to eight in the fifth set, so yeah, 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: that was close that day too. 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Well, I would have nice to round it up to ten, 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: but I'd take nine. I'd take nine. I got two, 18 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: So between the two of us we got over ten. 19 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: So well done for that, all right, So obviously a 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: lot going on. We are actually sitting in the practice 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: facility at Wimbledon because we just hit some tennis balls, 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: which is always nice. That's great. 23 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: I don't hit a lot of balls throughout the year, 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: but whenever I come to Wimbledon, it just kicks in. 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: Although we're on the hard court, but it's just this place, 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: This place holds this aura about it. It's a special 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: sound more so than a smell. You know, sometimes smells 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: his senses, but here it's the sound, and it's the 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: color that green, and the purity of Wimbledon and the 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: way they've been able to keep that traditional feel yet modern, 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: nice everything and make it so much better than you know, 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: when we first came here in the eighties, you and I. 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: So it's involved late late eighties. It's evolved. Yeah, really 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: late eighties. Okay, geez weeze Todd. I was going to 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: think we've been here since eighty one. Eighty nine I 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: think was my fot. Yeah, eighty seven was my first. Yeah, 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: you were a little bit better than me when we 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: were younger. But yeah, anyway, it's been lovely, beaty and actually, Todd, 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: it's ironic that it was one year today where I 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: lost my mum actually, and we were supposed to play 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: practice together and I got the call from my family 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: that mum wasn't probably going to make it through the 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: night and you were the person I was standing with. 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: So this is actually it's kind of interesting how the 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: world works, isn't it That I hadn't seen you. I 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: didn't know you were even here. And then I was 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: supposed to hit only hit tennis balls with Barbara Schette, 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: and then he said Todd's going to join us, and 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: then Petco joined us. We had a fun game of dingles. 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: But the fact that one year later, I actually we 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: finally got to hit tennis balls, and I feel like 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: my mum was on the court today with us and said, 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: you know, it's a year later. It's a sad day, 54 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: but remember to always have fun on the tennis court. Yeah. 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: But you know, we go back to. 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: I think maybe nine eight years of age when we 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: first played same tournaments. I played against your older brother 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: around that age. Think I might have been nine or ten. 59 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: So we go a long way. 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we go a long way back anyway. So this 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: this episode is obviously dedicated to my mum, but it's also, 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, for Todd Knight. So this is such a 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: special place for us. So it is hard in the 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: way because every year I come back to Wimbled and 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: now I'm going to remember that. But it's sort of 66 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 1: good because I know that you'd be happy that I'm here. Yeah, 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna look at it in the positive. 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they like all parents that is so 69 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 2: proud that what you've done. But you know, wimbled and 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: in Australia in particular, holds you know so much reverence. Yeah, 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: and it's that thing that you know, a womb like 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Australians wild and champions love the AO, right, but if 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: you're a Wimbledon champion, you've made it and that's you know, 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: when you can have that your resume, your mom's going 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: to be going, yes. 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Anyway, well, when we talk about the draw 77 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: a little bit and there's some interesting matchups, certainly, you know, 78 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the elephant in the room as we 79 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: as everyone wants to know sort of how a Serena's 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: look and looking good she plays my joy. 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: I was going to ask that question, but you just 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: ask yourself. No, no, no, no, it's typically stubsy. She's 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: just going to ask yourself an answer at the same time, 84 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: doesn't need guests. 85 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: Go on, now, how is she going? 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: Because I've been watching clips, looks like she's timing the 87 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: ball beautifully. Obviously, you know a lot of people will say, well, 88 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: how is she going to be moving? What are you 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: going to do to counteract that? Because you can't move 90 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 2: like she did when she was in her twenties. That's 91 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: just physically impossible. I think the question for me also 92 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: is it's such a big ask to come back, not 93 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: just to play doubles, but to play singles at Wimbledon, 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 2: and it's going to be on center court as a 95 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: champion that she is. Will that make her nervous? 96 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I think you're not human If that doesn't make it nervous. 97 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, it would probably be the one thing that 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: you know that you just you don't know, right. I 99 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: know how well she's hitting the ball, Sitting the ball great, 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: like really really well. She's serving great. If I were 101 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: to rank her, you know, just her basic hitting ability 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: in her timing of the ball, it's nine out of ten. Yeah, 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, can't say ten out of ten because that's 104 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: like absolutely perfect tennis. But that's how well she's actually 105 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: hitting the ball in practice, moving quite well. It's improved 106 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: exponentially in the last week because we've been really focusing 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 1: on singles. So the movement is there for someone who's 108 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: forty four. I mean we just hit tennis balls and 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: we're fifty five, the two of us, and we know 110 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: that you just get a step slower as the years 111 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: go on, but moving fairly well, pulling up really well. Then, 112 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: yes see that's going to be key. Right. 113 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: We'll get to that matchup in a moment with my joint, 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: but that recovery is going to be tough. 115 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest thing, like you said, is 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: no matter how many times you've won matches on cenate court, 117 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: no matter how many times, how many Grand Slams you've won, 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,119 Speaker 1: how many great you know you are the greatest fearale tennis, 119 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: You're still going to be anxious, and you still will 120 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: be nervous, and she will feel that when she walks out. 121 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: I would love to hear her answer after a bit. 122 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: But you and I have both been fortunate enough to 123 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: go and play on the center court after our you know, 124 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Open careers were done, playing tational events out there, and 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: I've got to say that every time I went out there, 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: these memories just came back and they felt so good. 127 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: And you know what I talked about sound the center 128 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: court here at Wimbledon has a uniquely different sound because 129 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: it has that inner roof and so when people clap 130 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: and cheer, it gets caught underneath it and then echoes around. 131 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: And also when you hit a ball out of the 132 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: middle of the racket, it sounds awesome. It sounds completely 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: different than it does on any other court in the world. 134 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: And I bet that. 135 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: She's going to get that feeling and that all those 136 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: sensors will come back and it could be quite a 137 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: joyous time for her to really go this is home. 138 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good. I'm glad you said that to 139 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: me because that's a good way for me to sort 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: of talk to her about it as well as rather 141 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: than looking at it as like this big deal, it's like, 142 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: try and tap into those moments of the memories that 143 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: you have where you played. I mean, arguably, I think 144 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: she's played her She played a lot of great matches 145 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: in her life, but I would argue and say her 146 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: best match she ever played was the finals of the 147 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: Olympics against Marine Sharapova. If there's everyone match that you 148 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: want to watch to see how good she was, just 149 00:06:59,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: go watch that. 150 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: Because there's that point too, when you walk out onto 151 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: the court and the crowd start clapping. Yeah, that doesn't 152 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: happen on any other senate code like that. 153 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, Well, we've got to take a short 154 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: break and we'll be back with a lot more of 155 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: Wimbledon after the break. I think you might have remembered 156 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: this when they had one hundred years anniversary of the 157 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: Senate courd at Wimbledon and they asked me to interview 158 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: the players about senate court and I asked them all 159 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: one specific question at the end, what is so different 160 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: about senate courd at Wimbledon any other court in the world, 161 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: And they all ninety nine percent of them said the 162 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: exact same thing. What do you think that answer was? 163 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: It's the crowd. Was it a crowd? It was the silence, 164 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: silence when you bounce the ball. When you bounce the ball, 165 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: you hear the ball. And it's the one stadium in 166 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: the world where it is truly before you start a 167 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: point dead silent, and that's not the same in anywhere else. 168 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: And that comes from that clap and that underneath sound 169 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: of talking about and then bang ye. Paul Annacone told 170 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the story once where he got to the quarters of 171 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Wimbledon one time, and he was feeling good, he's warming up, 172 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: and then he goes to bounce the ball for the 173 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: very first point and all of a sudden, he just 174 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: started shitting himself because he's like, oh my god, it 175 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: was so quiet. He said, I just completely fell apart. 176 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a segue into the 177 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: next question about Serena and her first round opponent. She's 178 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: taken on my joint, So we have a huge interest 179 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: in that because a young Australian who this time last 180 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 2: year was just flying and like many young players as 181 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: in the second year round sophomore year, has really struggled 182 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: to win matches and this is a huge match for her. 183 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: It's kind of a weird turning point, like if she 184 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: was able to sneak a wino for Serena, it might 185 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: just be that springboard for her to get going again. 186 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I don't know how she 187 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: going to handle everythasion. Yeah, the occasion, the opponent, those moments. 188 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: Because she played womed and for the first time last 189 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: year she won Eastbourne, she had about six hours to 190 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: feel what it was like here. By the time she 191 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: got here and played her next match, this she had 192 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: overnight and she hasn't had that feeling. Yeah, she hasn't 193 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: been able to take it in, and so this is 194 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: going to be massive for her, I think, and I'm. 195 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: Interested in your views. 196 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: I think that will actually favor Serena and make her 197 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: the favorite, which is quite incredible. You know, if you 198 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: put that out there that Serena's going to come back 199 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: at Wombed and win her first round. 200 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, listen, I love my own obviously, 201 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: everyone who knows I support all the Aussies all the time. 202 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: But this might be the one occasion where I'm not 203 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: going to be calling for Maya because obviously coaching Serena 204 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: it's a big moment for tennis. But anyway, is that 205 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: stressful coaching Serena? No. I just was talking to you 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: before this started, and I can honestly say it's it's 207 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: a joy every day to be on the court with her, because, 208 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: first of all, I haven't worked with anyone, and I've 209 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: worked with some great players, Sam Stowsa, Carolina Plushkov, Ginnie Bouchard. 210 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: They're all very professional or very good tennis players, and 211 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: your former number one and Carolina former Grand Slam champion 212 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and Sam, but Serena's on a different level because she 213 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: she knows what she needs to work on and she 214 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: literally says, no, I want to do more of that, 215 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: and I want to do more of that. And if 216 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you tell us something, as Carolina and Sam did, they 217 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: were all they're all sponges. Great players. Always listen, always. 218 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: They they take what they need information, don't dwell on them, 219 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: never fight you on it. 220 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: Never. They always want to know how can I be 221 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: better today? That's all they care about. And that is 222 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Serena to a t. And I mean people probably say 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: this to all meantime, what can you tell Serena to 224 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: be better at singles? And I'm like, it's not about 225 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: me not being as good as singles players her, No, 226 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: it's about what can I do and she trusts me 227 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: to make her better. 228 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, is as good as anybody's in terms of tactics 229 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: and technique. So actually, bit mind boggling that you haven't 230 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: coached any men yet. 231 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: By the way, well I am available, but after Serena's done. 232 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well for the third time I put it out 233 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: there that you should be doing that. 234 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Ted, I appreciate that. But you know, look, 235 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: I think on the women's side, you know, the question 236 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: marks a sable, Anca Rebarkina. Neither of them have had 237 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: great lead ups to Wimbledon's. Rebarkin is certainly one of 238 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: the favorites winning this Strain Open. She's won Wimbledon before 239 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: I asked the question of you know which one of 240 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: those two is going to turn up this week? Because 241 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the women are just I mean, todd It's like I 242 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: called it the Hunger Games every week with the women. 243 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Because Noskova wins, you know, Berlin, Mukhova wins. I don't know, 244 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: if you check you're in with a shot or winning Wimbledon, 245 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: that's for sure, because all of them know how to 246 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: play on grass or play on any surface. But you know, 247 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: you look at all these names winning these tournaments. You've 248 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: got Costure winning Madrid, then you've got Andreva winning the 249 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: French She's definitely a chance to win this tournament as 250 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: well because she's adaptable on every surface. Then you've got 251 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: you know, Coca GoF not playing well coming in here. 252 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the women's tennis. It is so deep, 253 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. 254 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it really it really should be 255 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: sabal Anka, but she's never even made the final. No, 256 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: and you know that what happened in Paris once again 257 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: puts just so many scars and scar tissue for her 258 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: to have to try to mend that it's going to 259 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: make it difficult. 260 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: And the whole the rest of the field knows. 261 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: Sometimes they get that portion of the draw against her 262 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: and then and go, oh, okay, I've just got to 263 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: hang around long enough. 264 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: I think the player to meet. Actually, and I've said 265 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: this a few times over the last couple of weeks, 266 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: is I think Jessica Bagoola is going to be somebody. 267 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: She lost early at the French She's playing very well. 268 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: She lost in the finals in Berlin to Noskova, but 269 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: she also had a winnow of Saberlenka. She plays well 270 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: on grass. We know that there's a if she hadn't 271 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: lost that match to Androsova up for one and a 272 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: third a few years ago, that she probably would have 273 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: won that tournament. That year, Vondrossova, you know, ended up 274 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 1: winning the tournament against Ons And I just feel like 275 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Jessica Gooler, there's something that's telling me that she might 276 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: make the finals. What about the fending champion comes in 277 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: here with absolutely no confidence. 278 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: Todd No, it's been fascinating watching your play. I mean 279 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: I thought, like last year when she didn't win the 280 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: French and she got on and played a Grascot tournament 281 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: and the lead up got here and got better every 282 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: match she played, she did find confidence. I watched a 283 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: bit of her match golshwhere where they in Germany last week? 284 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Bad homebook, and I thought she's hit the ball grade. 285 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: But she has no patterns of play, no structure, hitting 286 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: the wrong ball off the wrong shot coming at her, 287 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: lacking discipline and dedication to trust her abilities. But you know, 288 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: great players like her sometimes can click and find it 289 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: and I actually thought she was going to do that 290 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: at the French. So I'm not putting her up there. 291 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: But it's interesting when you look at what she's capable 292 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: of as well, and not many people even throwing her 293 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: name out here at the moment. 294 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: Well, it's pretty crazy, isn't it. Yeah, considering she's the 295 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: defending champion, But looked a lot of questions to be 296 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: answered from her with her tenis, with her coaching situation. 297 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: Apparently it's not even extending with Francisco Roy after this 298 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: that was the plan originally, I hear, so I don't 299 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: know what's going on in her coaching camp, I don't 300 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: know what's happening with her emotionally. So yeah, there's a 301 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: lot of questions to be answered. 302 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: Case I'm going to put it who who right now 303 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: without seeing around or two are you putting your money 304 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: on Serena? 305 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I mean, listen, if she stays healthy, yes, 306 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: the ball as well as anybody on grass, and there 307 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: is a chance in the third round if she is 308 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: to make the third round, lay as, she'll play Eager. 309 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: If Eager makes it through your Carolina push goovers in 310 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: that section of the draw, who's also been playing pretty 311 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: well coming back from pretty terrible injuries over the last 312 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: few years. And Carolinas a former finalist here. Big Serve 313 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: likes to play in grass, so that's not going to 314 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: be an easy section for Eager to get through if 315 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: they were to play each other in the second round, 316 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: and then you know, potentially Serena. Look, you know, I 317 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: think Rebarkina will probably find some form, but she has 318 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: not played well coming in here. I think Jessica Gooler 319 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: is one to really look out for, especially if the 320 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: weather stays the way it is. It's been beautiful. So 321 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly don't know Mira Andreva. 322 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so for me, there's a big ask for her 323 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: to do that, but given what she did in Paris, 324 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: there is maturity. It's finally kicking in. I love Kacheetah. 325 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: She's a contemporary peer of ours who I think is 326 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: a brilliant coach, has got so much out of varying 327 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: players of different styles and shapes. 328 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: And so myself was final, I made it. She was 329 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: coaching there. 330 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: You go, always inserts herself as stubbsy, and that's right, 331 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: and I just think it's context. 332 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: Todd. I think that she is, you know, just that 333 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: outside favorite for me. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. 334 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: And she's happy. God when you come in here, you 335 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: know what it's like, having one a major and then 336 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: you come to the next one you're like, oh, this 337 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: is great. I know I can win it too. That's 338 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: just half the battle. Okay, We've got more to cover 339 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: with mister Todd wood Rich, my old mixed doubles partner. 340 00:15:51,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: Right after the break. Okay, so let's get to the men. Well, 341 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: the men's I think. 342 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: It's fascinating, like, you know, what happened in Paris was 343 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: I was incredible and for the first time in many, 344 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: many years we saw this young brigade kick in that 345 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: I'd not seen before. 346 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: So can they do it on grass? Probably it's more 347 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: difficult that. 348 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it'll be as weird a tournament on 349 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: the men's side as what it was there. 350 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: And thankfully for Yannick, it's getting a lot cooler the 351 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: second week. 352 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he was probably shooting himself this one, and 353 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: it's he's the favorite by a long shot, but he 354 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: hasn't obviously played and we don't know really what's gone 355 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: on with the body. Watching his practice, it looks good, 356 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: footwork looks good, looks like he's moving well. But obviously 357 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: weather and conditions are going to play a pig part 358 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: because there is something hiding in there that he hasn't 359 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: got on top of. 360 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, from all accounts, you know, 361 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: he's done all the testing and all that sort of 362 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: stuff and everything's fine. It's just an anomaly maybe, you know, 363 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: and he's red headed, and they do say that that 364 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: extra game maybe suffers in the heat. It can happen. 365 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I played, you know with Mark wood 366 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: Ford for ten years and did he struggling. Yeah, he 367 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: was a great single playing now he struggled in humid 368 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: hot weather, not in dry heat, so where his metabolism 369 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: would lose too much fluid that he could not replace 370 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: it quick enough and it was just his body set up. 371 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: He did talk to Darren Khall about this, just curious, 372 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm sure all that conversation. But Mark literally knew he 373 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: had to be fully hydrated to go out like it 374 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: would be normally, but he had to try to sustain it, 375 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: and in humidity he just often couldn't. And he tested 376 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: for all of that and it was just one of 377 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: those things he had. 378 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: To deal with. 379 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: Now he was a redhead, you know, pale skin, all 380 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: that type of thing, and you know it genetically might 381 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: be something that's in there because you think about the 382 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: heat direct sunlight seems to affect as well, not the 383 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: heat in the evenings that type. 384 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Anyways, I mean it's interesting because he one person we 385 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: probably don't talk about enough or we will is Novak. Look, 386 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: he hasn't had a great year, he has not having 387 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: had great slam results. There's something about this place, and 388 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: I think there is, but there is interesting because he 389 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: said I heard him the other day say that he's 390 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: talked to his team this year and the focus was 391 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: fully on Wimbledon, because I think he knows it's the 392 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: one shot he. 393 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: Had won, the one he has shot and half with. 394 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: He's certainly good enough to win. But you know what 395 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: he hasn't done, and what he's dealing with is the body. 396 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: In round three and four, and he starts to break 397 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 2: down a little bit physically. 398 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: His recovery is. 399 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 2: Tough, even though it doesn't look like it that that's 400 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: his let's call it his achilles heel. And he also 401 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: knows that he's coming up against the younger ones that physically, 402 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: are you okay? In those rounds. I felt if he 403 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: was to win, he has to play more tournaments and 404 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: more matches. You have to have the mat resilience and 405 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: the bounce back to be able to get here. To 406 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 2: feel it, my spies tell me he didn't hit a 407 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: lot of balls after Roland Garross, just his normal training, 408 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: and so he doesn't have that court time, which I'm 409 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: amazed at for someone that's been so brilliant at the 410 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 2: one percentage that that percentage of what he needed to 411 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 2: win here may not have been done. He may not 412 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: have ticked every box. 413 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's fascinating. I mean, look, there's no player 414 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: that I would argue has been more professional as far 415 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: as getting themselves to that point. So it'd be interesting 416 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: to see. Maybe he feels like, and I think he 417 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: did mention this in an interview, where he feels like, 418 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: if you can get through a couple of rounds that 419 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: the tennis then will take care of itself. The tennis 420 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: kicks in and the fitness will then kick in, well hopefully. 421 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean he's the only one outside of sin Icee 422 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: winning the tournament. 423 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Well, let's talk about someone that might then 424 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: be an out player. So like, obviously this is probably 425 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: the best year for American men like to have a 426 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: legitimate shot. Your Francis Stout for having had to win. 427 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: You've got Taylor Fritz, who always plays great on grass. 428 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 2: So here's the rough first round. Yeah, yeah, You've got 429 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: Ben Shelton and Ben for me, I've actually done a 430 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: chat later tonight with Greg Rouzetski, and if you look 431 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: at the two of them, maybe Ben's a modern day 432 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: Greg is certainly better off the ground and all that, 433 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: but he could take a Rosetski mindset on grass, Hold 434 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: your serve, hold your serve, build pressure, build pressure, and 435 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: be so dangerous here and not so dynamic as we 436 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: know him. He is a big foie back and do anything, 437 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: tighten the game up a bit for this surface and bang, 438 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Shelton is so dangerous with his 439 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: lefty serve. I've called matches here playing Alex Demonor, and 440 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: it's it's the point here and a point there that 441 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: he doesn't he does too much, He overplays, doesn't need 442 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: to be that big, doesn't need to be that good. 443 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: If he could get that mindset, watch out for Ben Shelton. 444 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. And also he has to have a 445 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: ton of confidence of winning a grass court tournament coming 446 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: in here beating Taylor Francis also beat Taylor. But I 447 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: think also, like you said, I think Taylor if he 448 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: gets through this match against Jack Draper in the first 449 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: round the bloody night in their first round, Oh god, 450 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: what a great ticket to have if you've got a 451 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: center court ticket on Tuesday at Wildon because you've got 452 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: some incredible matches with Serena with her comeback, and of 453 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: course Jack and Taylor being on that schedule. But it's 454 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: to me Taylor is the type of player that you know, 455 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: one of the things that he hasn't had this year 456 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: is the match fitness because of this knee. 457 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: Injury, he needed to take time off proper and fix 458 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: it proper. 459 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: That's right, And I feel like the knee. I haven't 460 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: spoken to him, so I don't know for sure, but 461 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: I would gather that his knee is pretty much at 462 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: one hundred percent now and that he's been able to 463 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: put the time in and getting these final results is 464 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: getting him the match fitness. And now we know the 465 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: once he gets deep into matches, he's bloody hard to 466 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: beat and he's a real fighter. And so look out 467 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: for Taylor to do really well in this tournament as well. 468 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're right, Todd. I think the Americans, 469 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: we're going to see an American in the semi final 470 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: at some point. How do you think Zeb's going to do? 471 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just thinking that section of the drawer, the 472 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: bottom half of the drawer, and in there is Leahshka 473 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: very dangerous. 474 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: He's going to be tough to beat. Maybe he's your 475 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: surprise finalists down there, because he's probably the one player 476 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: down there that now knows that he can get to 477 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: a final, and he's been prepping. He's he was at Queens. 478 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: He's playing. 479 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: He's dangers. He can come and go a little bit, 480 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: but he's dangerous. But vere the drawer is pretty open. Nice, 481 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: There's some good players in there. There's obviously Sarundelo is 482 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: in that bottom piece where where he won Queens. 483 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: My god, he played that tournament. Did you watch the 484 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: final with Tommy Paul. It was amazing. 485 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: I mean Tommy Paul, Tommy Paul I thought was hitting 486 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: the ball. So well, watch out for Tommy Paul here. 487 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: Because we've got about him and the Americans. That's bad. 488 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: That's bad because he's he's the most informed. I thought 489 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: what I saw at Queen's Club. Because we've had such 490 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: hot weather here, the courts are already firm. They're not going 491 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: to be that slippery, greasy feeling that you get a 492 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: lot on opening a couple of days here. He is 493 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 2: really he's primed. He's prime for his best one wo 494 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: then yeah, Tommy, it's interesting. 495 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: Tommy and Taylor really had to struggle with injuries over 496 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: the last year, and it's I feel like there I 497 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: would say that they're pretty much eighty percent now so 498 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: ninety percent, if not one hundred percent. So that's great. 499 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Tommy, that final was unbelievable against the Rindilo. 500 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: Oh my god. The tennis that we're playing, hitting the 501 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: ball from the back of the court on grass these 502 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: days is insane to me. And it was funny. I 503 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: played golf with the next day and we talked about 504 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: and he said, oh, man, I said, did you watch 505 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: the match? He goes, yeah, it was great tennis. And 506 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: he said, you know, everyone's just so good from the 507 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: back of the court, you know. And he said that 508 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: to me, He's like, everyone's so good now, so can 509 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: I see way off that? Yeah? 510 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: And they are so good it's ridiculous. But the courts 511 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: are so good. Yeah, the courts are ridiculous. The courts 512 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: are too good. The court plays too much like a 513 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: hard court. It needs to be softer, It needs to 514 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: be more natural, it needs to be less manicured in 515 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: a way to allow the odd ball to shoot through, 516 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: to be more around knee height. 517 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: Not hip height. 518 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: Like the contrast of these of these courts now to 519 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: what they used to be. You want them to be better. 520 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 2: And I know the tours and the club want rallies 521 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: and all of that. But at the same time, you 522 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: want the surface to show skills and that tennis they 523 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: were playing was unbelievable, but it was just like watching 524 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: if you'd paint hardcourt. Yeah, and so that's not grass 525 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: court tennis. It doesn't allow for the nuance that this 526 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: surface has always had. You don't have to go back 527 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: that far to see matches played and know why you 528 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: came forward because you've got bad bounces. You know, I 529 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: don't we don't want bad bounces in the pitch, so 530 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: to speak, like you're doing cricket in Australia and whatever. 531 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: But it was it's something that I'd like to see 532 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 2: the court play a little a little lower, a little softer, 533 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: a little bit because you know, if you play a 534 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 2: short volley on a soft grass court, it doesn't bounce up. 535 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: Then they've got to come forward. They have to create 536 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: an opening. 537 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 2: They can't rip a pass and and so now you've 538 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: got another tactic that you can throw into a match 539 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: if you're good enough to be able to use it. 540 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Would you say that the guys that still can do that? 541 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: And I think that's why our choraz Yes, And even 542 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 1: Becauseick has employed the drop shot and coming into the net. 543 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: I think it's something that Darren kay It has really 544 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: helped him with. And it's not about coming in, it's 545 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: about what to come into the neat on. Every player 546 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: can come to the net. It's called transition, isn't it. 547 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: It's about how you set up that transition ball to 548 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: come forward, to look for the volley, to build pressure 549 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: to go into a portion of players maybe it's their 550 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,239 Speaker 2: back end. You know, they can't pass that up up 551 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 2: the line. 552 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: They only go for those of you out there that 553 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: are amateur players. My golden rule forehand, you have to 554 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: come in inside out or down the line. You cannot 555 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: come in on a cross court. And if you do, 556 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: that's give only one hundred dollars. And it's called geometric suicide. Yes, 557 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: and it's also called if you do happen to be 558 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: dumb enough to come in on it, you better cover 559 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: the cross court. Okay. That's my rule. Okay for all 560 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: our listeners out there, because I know that you love 561 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: your little tidbits anyway, So if you had to guess, 562 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: put your money, Yeah, a woman and a man to 563 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: win this tournament, who would it be? Todd Woodridge nine 564 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: time doubles champion and one time mixed doubles champion. 565 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: I'm going to put my to get ten titles that 566 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: a couple of junior doubles as well, and a couple 567 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: of a couple of seniors. 568 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: And I've won more seniors than I won more open. 569 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: So if that's if that's part. 570 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: Of the criteria, I'm a legend here, right, Okay, man, 571 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the because I think he 572 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: he he feels it actually interesting if had a Carlos 573 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: been here and he's won a couple already. I think 574 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: Yannick will win more wien Wooden titles than our kraz will. 575 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: Okay that's a big call, but yeah, and I think 576 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: he can serve. 577 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: That's because of the way the surface plays now too, 578 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 2: So anyway, I think that he can defend his championship 579 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 2: or win it again. I hate the word defend, and 580 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: I then I'm going to don't. I'm really struggling to 581 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: pick a winner out of the women's I'm going to 582 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: go with confidence of winning the last Slam super coach 583 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: that's one here before going to go back to back 584 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: big ask. I know, maybe that's putting too. 585 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: Big ass for a year Wow. Okay, Well, I think 586 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: I picked Rebakina at the start of the year to 587 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: win here, and I thought once she lost early in 588 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: the French I said her and Pegoula would not surprise me. 589 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: But I'm going to put some money on Jess. I 590 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: think it's a big ask. I think she should have 591 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: won this tournament a bunch of years ago. I think 592 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: she is playing well enough, she's confident, and you have 593 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: to pick somebody. So I'm going to pick her, actually, 594 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: and Serena, but you know I have to. She's my charge. 595 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: That would be a story. That would be a story, 596 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: all right, everyone, Thanks for joint Todd, thanks for joining 597 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: me to that. That was so fun and two weeks 598 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: of the best tournament in the world about to be 599 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: around the corner. So good enjoy us, enjoy it all right, bye, everybody, 600 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: see you next week.