1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hey Bessies, Hello Sunshine. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, we're spilling the secrets to 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: planning the ultimate international vacation with travel expert and co 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: founder of the travel company Elsewhere, Alexis Bowen. She's here 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: to reveal the three essentials for making your trip absolutely 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: unforgettable and why going solo might be the best part. 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Plus, stand up comedian and TV host Jesse Crookshank joins 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: us to talk the sexiness of mothers and minivans. She's 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: also taking us back to performing Improvent High School with 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: none other than comedian Seth Rogen and Nathan Fielder. It's Monday, 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: August twenty sixth. I'm Danielle Robe, I'm Simone Boys, and 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: this is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine, a daily 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: show where we come together to share women's stories, laugh, learn, 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and brighten your day. Happy Monday, Danielle. All Right, you 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: know what we gotta do? Hmm, It's Monday. We got 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: to kick off the week with on My Mom Monday. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: It's our op ortuinity to share stories that motivate us 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: inspired curiosity and provide a fresh perspective for the week ahead. 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: What you got, Okay, I'm gonna give you a little 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: bit of a curve ball, but stick with me. I 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: think quitting is underrated. What's the best thing you've ever quit? 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: My job? Okay, when did you quit your job? I 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: quit my job two years ago, being a reporter. Yeah, 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: that was the best thing I ever quit. 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Did you have any like fallout after? Did you cry 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: or were you relieved? 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: No? I didn't cry. I quit it with the most 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: piece that I've ever had making a decision. 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: I've quit a few jobs in my life. I'm like, actually, 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: the Queen of quitting, are you really? 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. I think quitting gets a bad rap. 33 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 2: Quitting can be like taking off a pair of shoes 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: that are too tight, or taking off your bra after 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: a long day. You just feel like, why didn't I 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: do that earlier? 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: Was instant relief? You know? 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: I think whether it's leaving behind a stress job, or 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: an exhausting friendship, or even a hobby that doesn't bring 40 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: you joy, quitting can clear space in your life for 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: things that truly make you happy. 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to quote Steve Harvey. Okay, he says, you. 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: Can't buy a new car when the old car is 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 2: in your garage. You gotta make space, And so for me, 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: quitting is not about giving up. It's about giving in 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: to yourself and honoring what works for you and what 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: truly brings you joy. 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. 49 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: Well, I came across this article about quitting, but it's 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: about quitting a book. 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: We ever quit a book. I have strong feelings about this. 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I'm unable to quit books. Oh, I have to finish 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: them once I start. Okay, So I actually totally disagree. 54 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: So we're gonna have it out ready, Yes, I'm going 55 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: to give you what the article says, and then we'll disagree. 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: Okay. 57 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: Sophie Verschbau wrote a piece from The Atlantic giving all 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: of us a rubric for deciding whether it's time to 59 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: put a book down without finishing it, which is hard 60 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: to do for a book lover. But before I begin, 61 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: there are those of you, you like Simone, who struggle 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: with abandoning a book and feel like you gotta finish 63 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 2: no matter what. 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: And I see you. 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: I feel like life is too short to ever read 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: something you're not thoroughly thrilled with. So as we go 67 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: through this, I want you to determine if you're a Simone. 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Or if you're a Danielle. 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So she says Number one, before dropping a book, 70 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: you need to figure out what's motivating you to stop 71 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: reading it. Is it bad writing or is the author 72 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: experimenting in a creative way that might push you as 73 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: a reader, but you're sort of uncomfortable with. 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: So the book that I'm currently thinking of, the writing 75 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: was just bad. Oh yeah. 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: See. I always feel bad saying the writing is bad 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: because it's like, maybe it's just not for me. 78 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Is it bad writing? Like who gets to decide that? 79 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: I think if you've read enough books, you can decide 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,279 Speaker 1: what's bad writing and just bad storytelling, like flat characters, 81 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, not well developed. Right, that's a good point. Yeah. 82 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, She says that reading is linked to empathy, increased empathy, 83 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: which I think is cool and one of the best 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: opportunities we have to digest experiences and opinions that we 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: don't agree with or haven't considered is reading. So sometimes 86 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: you got to like push through Number two. Time constraints. 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: She says, for busy people, reading is a luxury, So 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: I kind of have a page constraint. I'm like fifty pages. 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 2: If I'm not in I'm actually lying I'm being generous. 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: If I'm not in in twenty pages, I'm out. That's nothing. 91 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: I know. I feel like you got to give it 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: one hundred. I can't do it. I don't have time. 93 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: There's too many books I want to read. I feel 94 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: that very strongly. 95 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: Do you ever Sometimes I go into a library and 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: I get anxiety because I look around and I'm like, 97 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: I don't know anything. 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: I need to read all of these books. I do 99 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: feel that. I also feel the tension between we have 100 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: books at home and I want to buy this book. Yes, 101 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: that is so relatable. Yeah, okay. 102 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: Number three, she says, you got to stop gamifying reading. 103 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: Don't just push through for the sake of bragging rights. 104 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you. It's not bragging rights, it is. 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: That's not bragging rights for me. It's a personal thing 106 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: for me. It's like I made I bought this book, 107 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: which means I made a commitment to read it, so 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to finish it. It's like it's a personal 109 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: covenant that I make with myself, even if it's like 110 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: a six hundred page book. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, 111 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: six hundred pages, that's a big commitment. I don't read 112 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: a ton of six hundred page books. I gotta be honest. 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Well, the next one is sort of funny because she's 114 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: kind of going back and forth. 115 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: She might agree with you. 116 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: She says, if it's a trendy book, that you have 117 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: to keep going so that you can hate on it 118 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: intellectually with your friends and be a real critic. 119 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: I love how real this is. That's so you can 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: walk up into the book club like guns blazing. Yes. 121 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: So I have a friend named Brooke who is like 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: my reading buddy, Like she always reads. 123 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: She has so much time on her hands, way more 124 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: than me, and so she. 125 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: Reads all the books, especially the trendy ones, as soon 126 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: as they come out. And she told me this year 127 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: I have to read The Women and all fours and 128 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: I haven't started either, and it's killing me. 129 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: The Women is on my list too. 130 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay. 131 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: The last one is lean on the Live. 132 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: She said, there's no sunk costs, like you said about 133 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: buying a book and not finishing it if you didn't 134 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: pay for it. 135 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm currently fighting with my library. Why because they say 136 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: that I haven't returned like ten books from my kids. 137 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: So I try to have returned them so when I was. 138 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: Growing up in Chicago, there was always a day in 139 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: April where you could bring in a ton of canned. 140 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Goods to the library. 141 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: It was like a drive of a can goods drive 142 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: and if you brought in enough, they would waive all 143 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 2: your overcharges. 144 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: I need to see if that's an option at my library. 145 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I swear I've returned these books. 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So have I convinced you otherwise? Are you still 147 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: on your page? So to speak? 148 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: These are good, you know, questions to think about. I 149 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: think that for me, if I'm going to get really deep, 150 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to make a commitment that 151 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: I can't keep. So like I it's like, what, that's 152 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: so funny that you attribute books to that. Yeah, it's 153 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: it's part of Yeah, it's just part of like an 154 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: over writing life philosophy. Like if you say you're going 155 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: to do something, do it. Yeah. Yeah, but maybe I 156 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: need to loosen up a little bit. No, I don't. 157 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: It's I think if you've like, you know, tied those 158 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: two things together, that's that's totally fair. 159 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay. A book that was really easy to finish 160 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: was Wild Mmmm. That is a book, It really really is, 161 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: And it's a book that got me thinking a lot 162 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: about the role that travel plays in my own life. 163 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: Research shows that traveling is beneficial to personal growth. It 164 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: leads to greater emotional agility, creativity, and empathy. But if 165 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: you've ever had an international journey that's deeply touched you 166 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: on a personal level, like, you don't need to see 167 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: the research. You know how transformative travel can be. A 168 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: recent Forbes article actually cited a survey that revealed that 169 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: eighty percent of all travel decisions are made by women. 170 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: Isn't that really Yeah, that is not the case in 171 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: my house. My dad is our travel agent. Interesting, what's 172 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: your mom's role in all of it? 173 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Everything else? I thought you mine in the house. No, no, no, 174 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: Like when it comes to travel and planning, travel's way 175 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: too much travel and planning trips. My mom's the restaurant gal. Nice. Yeah, 176 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: she makes the reservations, so she'll like go through the 177 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Yelp reviews or whatever they're in that country. 178 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you, Oh, he does the reservations in 179 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: your house? 180 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: You are, Michael Gosh, that's a really good question. I 181 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: think it's kind of shared. I think it's shared marriage 182 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, But you have completely different travel approaches. 183 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm a wanderer. I just want to I just 184 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: want to go to a city without a lot of 185 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: structure and wander. Although I do think there's there has 186 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to be a balance between structure and spontaneity. I call 187 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: myself a traveler. My husband prefers vacation, and there's a 188 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: difference between travel and vacation, big difference. I think travel 189 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: is about discovery, vacation is about relaxation. 190 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: I think if you go and travel, you need you 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: need a vacation after. 192 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Sometimes, yeah, I think it's good to like try to 193 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: weave in the vacation elements in the travel. 194 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: But my dad has this travel rule. He says, you 195 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: always end on a beach. So, like if you have 196 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: eight or ten days of like tough touring, because he 197 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: wants to tour from like eight am to eight pm. Yeah, 198 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: that somehow you have to end two or three days 199 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: on a beach. 200 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: That's smart. Yeah, that way you come back feeling rested. 201 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Oh another travel hack. So whenever you return, make sure 202 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: that you've taken a day off, a buffer day, so 203 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: that you don't go right back to work after making it. 204 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: I'm laughing because I want every single ounce of the 205 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: time off I have. I will take a red eye 206 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: and show up to work at eight am that morning. 207 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: I hear you, but there is something really nice about 208 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: having a day to adjust. Totally agree, I just it's 209 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: not me. Well, our next guest has had the travel 210 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: bug since she was thirteen years old. Alexis Bowen went 211 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: on to create Elsewhere, a travel company that was eventually 212 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: acquired by Lonely Planet, and together they're on a mission 213 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: to make tourism better, more sustainable, and more ethical. And 214 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: today Alexis is telling us about the solo trip that 215 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: changed her life, the benefits of traveling so and how 216 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: to do it safely. That's after the break, stay with. 217 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: Us, Alexis, Welcome to the bright Side. 218 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: Hi, thanks so much for having me. 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: You've traveled all over the world. Is there a solo 220 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: trip that has changed your life? Oh, that's such a 221 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 2: hard question. I've done a lot of solo trips. I 222 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: would have to say my first one has to be 223 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: the most formative for sure. Actually, I took my first 224 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: international trip solo, which is kind of wild, and I 225 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: was thirteen years old, so I mean it was a 226 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: totally new experience that blew my mind and really got 227 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: me the bug. 228 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Where did you go? Would you tell us a little 229 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: bit about that trip? 230 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: I went to England and Ireland. I always wanted to travel. 231 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: I always wanted to see the world, and I grew 232 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 4: up with Irish grandparents, so I grew up with people 233 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: who came from a different place and talked about it, 234 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: and so I just wanted to see where they came from. 235 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: I didn't grow up traveling. My parents didn't take us 236 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 4: all over the world. And I think a lot of 237 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: people who end up in the industry got the bug 238 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 4: from that from their parents, But for me, it was 239 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: just totally innate. I've always had this sense of adventure 240 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: and wanting to see kind of what was out there, 241 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: and always just wanted to see the world. 242 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: So at twelve, I was like. 243 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take this in my own hands, and I'm 244 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: gonna get myself a passport and I'm gonna buy a 245 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: ticket and I'm gonna. 246 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Go, Wow, that's incredible. 247 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, it's kind of crazy. 248 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 4: So I convinced the owner of this cafe down the 249 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: street to let me be a bus boy on the 250 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 4: weekends during their brunch rush, and it took me about 251 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: a year, but I saved up enough money to buy 252 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: a plane ticket and got myself a passport and I went. 253 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: You turned your passion into a profession because you started 254 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: a new travel company called Elsewhere, And I think the 255 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: mission is so brilliant. It's about curating itineraries defined by 256 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: local communities, and I have a. 257 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: Personal investment in this. 258 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: I hate a tourist trap, Okay, I really do any 259 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: place that, like everybody tells you on a blog or 260 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: any sort of list to go see, I want to 261 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 2: go see something two or three steps like more distinct. 262 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: To that place. 263 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: So I'm so curious how you incorporate local businesses and 264 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: these local recommendations to enhance the travel experience. 265 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, this, Danielle, this is something that's so important to 266 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: me and was really what we thought about when we 267 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 4: were building Elsewhere. So the traditional travel industry, you work 268 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 4: with an agency, they're probably based in the US, and 269 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: they actually work with other companies all over the world, 270 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 4: And we knew that it was really the locals and 271 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 4: those local agencies who had their finger on the pulse 272 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 4: of what's new, what's cool. 273 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: You know. 274 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: Also, like you said, the things that you should avoid, 275 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: those tourist traps, and so we kind of we wanted 276 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: to cut out the intermediary. We wanted to connect travelers 277 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: directly with these local experts on the ground who grew 278 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 4: up there, know their home country inside and out. 279 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: Love it, live to share it. 280 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 4: And so that's what Elsewhere is about, where a travel 281 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: platform that connects travelers to these local experts to plan 282 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: and book your trick. 283 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: So, alexis we are part of the Hello Sunshine family, 284 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: and Cheryl Strade, the incredible author of Wild who walked 285 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: the Pacific Crest Trail alone, is as well, and she's 286 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: become one of my travel inspirations. And this quote of 287 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: hers really sums it up for me. She says, it 288 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with gear or footwear, or the 289 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: backpacking fads or philosophies of any particular era, or even 290 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: with getting from point A to point B. It had 291 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: to do with how it felt to be in the wild. 292 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: And that is that's the reason why I travel. I 293 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: just want to be wild and feel wild. And I 294 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: know that we both share this philosophy of trying to 295 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: go to the destination that's not where everyone else is going. 296 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: So how do you choose where to go and what 297 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: would be your recommendation for people who are looking for 298 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: the right destination. 299 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: There's a reason that bucket list places are bucketless places. 300 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: But I love this term of second city, So that's 301 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: the Marseille instead of Paris, or like I did recently, 302 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 4: I went to the Ecuadorian Andes in the highlands and 303 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: Ecuador instead of Peru, which is largely touristed. And you 304 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: do have a better experience, because I mean, for me, 305 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: I do think a better experience is kind of boils 306 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: down to a tourist to local ratio. 307 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: When you are more immersed in. 308 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: The place, you can have authentic exchanges with people. You 309 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 4: can see things without a million selfie sticks or cameras, 310 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: and that's what's so great about traveling is getting you 311 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: out of your space. I think what's so amazing about 312 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: travel is that you know it's in the real world, 313 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: but it's a world outside of your own, and it's 314 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: full of these unpredictable experiences and it's hard to do 315 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: that when you're just on the same circuit as everybody else. 316 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 4: And I think as well, in choosing these second cities 317 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 4: or these places that are off the beaten path, like 318 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 4: I said, It gets you out of your head a 319 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: little bit. 320 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: We're totally siloed. 321 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: We're like constantly fed things that reinforce our interests in 322 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: our opinions, and travel gets you out of that loop, 323 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 4: and I think that's really powerful. 324 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: How I planned my solo trip to Southeast Asia, I 325 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: knew a lot of people were going to the beaches 326 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: in Thailand and they had become super overrun. So I 327 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: decided to go to Laois instead. And honestly, when I 328 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: went to Luwong Probong, it completely like exploded my world 329 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: and opened up my mind in a way that completely 330 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: changed my life. I know you went to Southeast Asia 331 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: too on a solo trip. I did tell me some 332 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: of the highlights. 333 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean again, no plans. This is also pre smartphone, 334 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: So I think there's a beauty in the pre smartphone 335 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: era as well, is because you have less plans, you 336 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: have to talk to people to figure out what you're 337 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: going to do, what's good, how you get where you're going. 338 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: And I actually kind of have a nostalgia for that 339 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: era now. But yeah, I was eighteen years old. Everyone 340 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: was doing their Europe trips and Southeast Asia was more 341 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 4: exciting but also a lot cheaper, so I decided to 342 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: buy a ticket to Bangkok. All the flights in Bangkok 343 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: land at two in the morning. I don't know why. 344 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: And I show up and two in the morn in 345 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: the middle of Bangkok with no plans at all. And 346 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: you know, the beginning was a little rough. I'm not 347 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: gonna lie. I took a while to get my footing, 348 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: but once I did. I also ended up in Laos 349 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 4: because I was close to overstaying my thirty day tourist 350 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: visa and I had to jump the border, and I 351 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: thought about Burma. Burma was not possible at the time. 352 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 4: It was quite dangerous and actually I was close to 353 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: the border of Burma on a bus when these Burmese 354 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: guards came in onto the bus, stopped the bus in 355 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: the middle of the street. Came in armed guards. Everyone 356 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: started to kind of freak out. I had no idea 357 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 4: what was going on. People were pulling out their passports 358 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: and I realized they were looking for Burmese refugees, and 359 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: so they kind of laughed at me as like this 360 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: young girl by herself. But Burma was out of the question, 361 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: so I went to Laos instead, and Laos I had 362 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: the same experience. It was absolutely amazing. 363 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Alexis, how many trips do you think you've planned so 364 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: far professionally? 365 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh, I mean thousands. I've been in the 366 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: industry for a long long time. 367 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: So having planned thousands of trips, what do you think 368 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: are the three pillars or a great trip? 369 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: You should know somebody on the ground, not so much 370 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: for a safety reason, but just to really get beneath 371 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 4: the surface of a destination and be able to experience 372 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 4: it from their perspective. I think that's really important. Another pillar, 373 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: I would say is having some structure, but not too 374 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: much structure. You want to leave it open enough that 375 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: you can say yes to an opportunity that arises or 376 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 4: something unplanned that's exciting. I think those are the moments 377 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 4: that really make your trip special. And the third pillar, 378 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: I'd say, and this is kind of like my personal 379 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 4: travel philosophy, is to always take that extra bus whatever 380 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: that is, if it's a bus, about the extra plane ride, 381 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: Just go to the next town that you want to 382 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 4: go to, and there you're just going to have a 383 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 4: better experience. Less tourists, like I said, but more authentic exchange, 384 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 4: immersive experience. 385 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 3: And I just find that It's always been a good 386 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: decision for me. 387 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: When you start planning, obviously, fo cuisine restaurants are a 388 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 2: big thing. If you don't know somebody on the ground, 389 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: where do you start. 390 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: I like talking to people. 391 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 4: I know people turn to Google, and Google can be 392 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 4: a great resource, but I really do just like asking people. 393 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: I also like seeing what restaurants are crowded. I don't 394 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 4: like restaurants that have an English menu. If they don't 395 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: have an English menu, that's a good sign. If they 396 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: don't have a long menu, that's a good sign too. 397 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: They've only got a couple dishes, it means it's fresh. 398 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: If it's fresh, the restaurant is packed with locals. It 399 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: doesn't matter if it's you know, Michelin starred or a 400 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 4: hole in the wall, it's going to be great. And 401 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: I prefer the kind of more neighborhood vibe. 402 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: Anyways, that's such a great tip. I always say, if 403 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: you find the spot that has the longest line of locals, 404 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: your set totally. 405 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about safety because I 406 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: think traveling alone as a woman can be both empowering 407 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: and challenging. I know that I've felt that way. I 408 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: think While it offers a lot of independence and opportunity 409 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: for personal growth and excitement, there's always safety concerns And 410 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was just imprinted on me 411 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: because of my parents, but it's always on the forefront 412 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 2: of my mind. So in one survey, more than seventy 413 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: percent of women who responded said that they worried about 414 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: their safety when traveling alone. I hate even saying it 415 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: because I wish we could just get up and go 416 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: the way men do. But I think you have to 417 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: be cognizant, especially traveling to certain places, and so I'm 418 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: curious what you say to women who feel apprehensive about 419 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: traveling solo and what to look out for. 420 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some easy, practical tips that I sometimes 421 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: do if I feel uneasy about a situation. You know, 422 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 4: things like getting dropped off a block away from your 423 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 4: location so people don't know exactly where you're staying. If asked, 424 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: I always say a friend is just meeting me, or 425 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: my partner or my spouse, whatever, those kind of things. 426 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: Sometimes I've even worn a wedding ring to kind of 427 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: send off those kind of questions or unwanted attention. 428 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: So I've done all of those things. 429 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: But really what I tell people is that I understand 430 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: feeling unsafe, but these are the minority of experiences, and 431 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: I tend to really be trusting, and I think being 432 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: in the kind of power seat where you are aware 433 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: of your surroundings and you feel empowered puts you in 434 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: a safer position. I trust my gut for sure. I 435 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: get out of situations where I don't feel okay. I 436 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 4: follow cultural norms, you know, etiquette, dress code, things like 437 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: that you want to be respectful, and you will also 438 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: be treated with more respect. All of these things are 439 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 4: ways to not stand out as well, you know, along 440 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: the same lines, learning a few words that. 441 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: Also helps, and also talking to strangers. 442 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 4: I know I keep saying this, but this contradicts your 443 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: mom's advice, But I think by you taking the step 444 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 4: to speak with strangers, that power dynamic changes and really 445 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 4: opens you up to whole host of new experiences that 446 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 4: will really transform your understanding of the place. 447 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: I think what you said about the bad experiences or 448 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: instances of crime or homicide, even like those are really 449 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 1: the minority, and I think the benefits really outweigh the 450 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: risks for traveling as a woman alone. And that's what 451 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: the research shows as well. Would you elaborate on some 452 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: of those benefits. What have been the real standout benefits 453 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: to you of traveling alone? 454 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean research shows that traveling is good for 455 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: your brain, it's good for your mental health. 456 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: But I just think traveling is so important. 457 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 4: It really gives people a wider and more inclusive view 458 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: of the world. It reinforces this shared humanity that we 459 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: all have. I really believe that if everyone traveled the 460 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: world would it would honestly be a better place. There's 461 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: so many things, getting outside, having new experiences. These are 462 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: all rewiring your brain, boosting confidence, improving productivity. Research shows 463 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 4: that going outside increases optimism and feelings of hope. You know, 464 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: these are all important things. 465 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Okay, it makes me very sad to say this, but 466 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: summer is almost over. I think it's my favorite season, 467 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: and it's a bit of an existential crisis. But let's 468 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: find the bright side. We're going to start looking ahead 469 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty five and start getting excited about where 470 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: we'll go then. So what do you predict will be 471 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: one of the more in demand travel destinations next year? 472 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 4: Italy and Japan. Italy is everybody's favorite country in the world. 473 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: Japan is an incredible, incredible place. But I think what's 474 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 4: also made it so popular in the last couple of 475 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: years is that it had one of the longest closures 476 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: during COVID, and so when it finally reopened, I think 477 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 4: it was closed for about three years, people were just 478 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 4: so hungry to go and to see what was going on. 479 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: That hand continues to be our most requested and most 480 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: traveled to destination. 481 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: Are there any places that you would suggest that we 482 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: add to our potential travel destination lists. 483 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: I just got back from Ecuador and it was amazing. 484 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: It was incredible. We were in the Ecuadorian Andes and 485 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: the highlands. We're staying in a hacienda. We were living 486 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: chakra life, which is like Ecuadorian cowboys, and we were 487 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 4: riding horses in this area. Hacienda's in a valley called 488 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: the Avenue of Volcanoes, and so you're surrounded by seven volcanoes. 489 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: Is absolutely stunning, and you ride horses and you feed 490 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: the lamas, and you eat in at the hacienda and 491 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: stuff that's grown from the hacienda. Even the milk from 492 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 4: the coffee that we had was like milked from the 493 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: cows outside that day. It was just a really beautiful experience. 494 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people don't think about Ecuador. 495 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 4: They think about the Galapagos, But Ecuador is one of 496 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: the most biodiverse places on the planet. And if you 497 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: fly into Quito within an hour four and a half, 498 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: you can have multiple extremely biodiverse places. You can have 499 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: the Cloud Forest, which is one of the best places 500 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: in the world for bird sighting. 501 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: You can go to the. 502 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 4: Adean Highlands like I did, which is completely different flora 503 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 4: and fauna and landscapes and it's just absolutely stunning. You 504 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: can go to places with hot springs and incredible hiking. 505 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 4: And Kito is actually the first UNESCO World Heritage Site 506 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: ever and people don't know that. It's colonial center is 507 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 4: one of the most preserved and it's really beautiful. 508 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: So I think people are sleeping on Ecuador. I think 509 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: more people need to go to Ecuador. 510 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: Alexis, thank you so much for joining us on the 511 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: bright Side. 512 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me. 513 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: Alexis Bowen is the co founder of the travel company Elsewhere. 514 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: We're taking another short break, but when we come back, 515 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: comedian and TV host Jesse Krukshank joins us to talk Motherhood, Minivans, MTV, 516 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: and more, Don't Go Anywhere. 517 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Bestie's. Before we close out the show, We've 518 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: got a special segment for you in partnership with Airbnb. 519 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Criikshank is a woman of many talents. 520 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 2: She's a stand up comedian, a TV host, and the 521 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: creator of the new mom Whods website, which she calls 522 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: an imperfect guide to motherhood. And in her new comedy 523 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: special Minivan Money, she pumps breast milk on stage, making women, girls, mothers, 524 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: and people everywhere very proud. Jesse, welcome to the bright Side. 525 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me, and we're in person. 526 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: This is really just very thrilling, It really is. And 527 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: we have to tell everybody she wore bright Side yellow. 528 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: I did you came and you came to play well? 529 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: I said to you, I was like, I should have 530 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 5: put on something more professional. I literally, like, basically, am 531 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 5: not wearing pants. It's so hot in Los Angeles. I 532 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 5: came in poolside attire to record this podcast. 533 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: All right. We just talked to Alexis Bowen about solo 534 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: travel and as a comedian, you're on the lot. I mean, 535 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: in my eyes, you're a professional traveler at this point, 536 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: what are some of your best travel hacks and tips? 537 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, like you would think I would have 538 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: my little carry on and my No, I'm the girl 539 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 5: who they open the bag at security every time, and 540 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 5: like my chicken cutlets fall out and my hair extensions 541 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 5: they're like going through red weave at the I am 542 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 5: so disorganized when it comes to travel, and it's because 543 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 5: I have three. 544 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Little kids at home, so get it. 545 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 5: Most of my life is trying to like keep their 546 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 5: lives together, and when I have to hit the road, 547 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 5: I am throwing shit in my bag and like if 548 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 5: I make the airplane on time, then it's a success. 549 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Honestly, I love this answer because it's so relatable, Like 550 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: this is perfect. 551 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 5: Okay, good, Yeah, I don't even have a bag to 552 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 5: put my clip on extensions in. 553 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: They go raw dog in with raw dog, Jessie. Oh no, no, 554 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: I know. 555 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: Well, we have to send you a big congrats because 556 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: you have your first ever stand up special minivan money. 557 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: I love the title. How did you name it? 558 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 3: Thanks? 559 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 5: Well, I went on the road before this became a special. 560 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,360 Speaker 5: I went on the road on tour when I had 561 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 5: identical twin boys who were three, maybe four at the time, 562 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: and I had just had a newborn baby. 563 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Which is this that's wild that you took that on right. 564 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 5: This is why my hair extensions are just sitting loose 565 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: in my bag because I can bear. 566 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and while you're pumping on stage, and while. 567 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 5: I'm pumping on stage, thank you, Danielle. 568 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: You just took it in your bra. 569 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: Oh no, I came out with fully exposed liquid breast 570 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 5: pumps with milk actively pouring from my bosom while dancing 571 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 5: to the Bactory boys everybody. 572 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: But here's the thing that I love. 573 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: There's this quote that I associate with the best type 574 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 2: of comedians, which is, if you can make them laugh, 575 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: you can make them listen. 576 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: And so you're making everybody laugh. 577 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 2: But I think you're saying something deeper too, hm am 578 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: I giving you too much credit? 579 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: Probably, No, that's exactly right. 580 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 5: Also, I think the minute you walk on stage and 581 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 5: you give people permission to laugh at you, and you're 582 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 5: able to laugh at yourself, and like, I have very 583 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 5: few inhibitions, and I sort of like, am me and 584 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 5: this is it, And I have a baby at home 585 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 5: and I'm coming up pumping, and like, deal with it, 586 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 5: and that sort of sets the tone first an honest 587 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 5: and candid night of hilarity. But minivan money is because 588 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 5: I have like a bit in the tour about how 589 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 5: I want nothing more than to own a minivan, and 590 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 5: I don't understand how we still have this idea that 591 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 5: like men with ferraris are like. 592 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Ooh, he's he's hat he's rich. No, he's not the 593 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: rich one. 594 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: It's the mom of four in the Siena with like 595 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 5: the kids whose daycare cost fifty grand and who's eleven 596 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: year old just got braces for ten grand and she's 597 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 5: gonna have to drop that on the rest of them, 598 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 5: Like that's the woman. We should get horny for the 599 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 5: woman the damn minivan that is wealth. 600 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: That's well, yes, honey, I agree. 601 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 5: So next time I come to do this pot, I'm 602 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 5: gonna pull up in a straight up. Guys are going 603 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: to be fanning yourselves in your crop tops, like, oh, 604 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: she's made it. 605 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: My mom's favorite car ever, was the Honda Odyssey. It 606 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: was with the bucket seats. 607 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: The bucket seats because my brother and I would stop 608 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 2: fighting about who was in the middle. 609 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: So you grew up in a minivan, Yeah, I did. 610 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm here with you, lucky lady. Okay, So before you 611 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: normalized pumping on stage as a comedian, that's not exactly 612 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: how you originally burst onto the scene. A lot of 613 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: audiences got to know you from your MTV days hosting shows, 614 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: including The Hills After Show alongside Dan Levy. Did you 615 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: ever imagine this being your next chapter? 616 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: Like? 617 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: How did you would you connect the dots for us 618 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: between those two? Yeah? I mean no. 619 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 5: When I was at MTV, Dan and I were just 620 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 5: like drunk half the time and we never sat down 621 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 5: and we're like, would you like to have children? 622 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: One day? 623 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: We were no, But yes we hosted The Hills After Show, 624 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 5: which I think are producers initially just thought in Canada 625 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: we had to create a certain amount of Canadian content 626 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 5: for a like, for every thirty minutes of American programming, 627 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: we had to have a Canadian show. So our producers 628 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 5: were like, well, let's just throw Dan and Jesse on 629 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 5: after every episode of lauguna Beach in the Hills and 630 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 5: they can talk about it like no one cared. We 631 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 5: were an afterthought. It was called the After Show and 632 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: like we had it was ourselves. One producer really was 633 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 5: not supposed to be successful, and then it became like 634 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: the biggest show on the network. Our ratings were higher 635 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 5: than the Hills on some nights. We got bought by 636 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 5: MTV US, and literally with every single moment of success 637 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 5: that that show had, everyone in the building was. 638 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Like, what is going on? 639 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: But it's because you two are so funny together individually 640 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: and then together too. 641 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: I think we have we still to this day like 642 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 5: he's one of my closest friends. We have good you 643 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: know you too feel probably feel that way about each 644 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: other when you meet someone who like can finish your 645 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 5: sentences or has the punchline to your Joe, or you 646 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 5: are like, you're like kindred spirits. So we did work 647 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: really well together, and I think that sort of like 648 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: pointed me in a more comedic direction. 649 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: I read that prior to your days on MTV, you 650 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: were also in an improv troupe with some lesser known 651 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: comedians Nathan Fielder, Seth Rogen. I am. I have so 652 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: many questions to ask you about this because I'm such 653 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: a huge fan of both of them. Please my first question, 654 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Nathan Fielder, what was his vibe like when he was 655 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: performing improv? Was he still doing kind of like that 656 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: dry same delivery that he has or did he have 657 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: more range? 658 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 5: The literal exact same. Nathan Fielder was the same man. 659 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 5: He's one of my closest friends now to this day. 660 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: He's the same now as he was. 661 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: When he was fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old. 662 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 5: And Seth Seth too. Seth was just like a stoner 663 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 5: kid in high school. He literally had bleach blonde dreadlocks. 664 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 5: Nobody looked at Seth and thought like that guy's a star, 665 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 5: said him to Hollywood. 666 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: It was the opposite. 667 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 5: If you were like put least likely to succeed in 668 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 5: our high school yearbook, it would probably have been Seth. 669 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 670 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 5: And I think the funny thing was that we were 671 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: on this improv team and we were successful, like our 672 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 5: in our province in British Columbia. We won the provincial 673 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 5: championships and then we went to the nationals the Canadian 674 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 5: This is so. 675 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: Embarrassing to what was the name of the team. 676 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 5: We were like Point Gray High School as our high 677 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 5: school improv team, okay, And when we got to the nationals, 678 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 5: we were doing like Seth and Nathan style of comedy, 679 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: very cerebral, very low key, not like Jim Carrey vaudeville style, 680 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 5: and we got there and everyone was doing human pyramids 681 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 5: and like full on musicals, and our jokes about the 682 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: Bible did not hit. And I think we finished last 683 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 5: or second to last in the National Improv Championships because 684 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 5: people weren't ready for that style. 685 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: I think at that time. And now Righteous Gemstones is 686 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: a huge hit, right ahead of your time. Yeah, y'all 687 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: got the last laugh for sure. Now that you're on 688 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: the road, you have a new side hustle. You started 689 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: hosting on Airbnb. You have to tell me about that, 690 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: because I'm about to start hosting on Airbnb for the 691 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: first time. 692 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 5: Oh gosh. I mean, I'm away so much. So we 693 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 5: have a little guest house. It was a garage, and 694 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: during the pandemic, I had identical twin two year olds 695 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 5: running around and suddenly had to shoot a daytime talk 696 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 5: show from home and was like, I'm gonna have to 697 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: do it in the garage. So we converted the garage 698 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 5: into a beautiful six hundred square foot guest house. 699 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: And because I'm on the road so much, it kind 700 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: of just sits there. 701 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 5: And at one point I thought like, what if we 702 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 5: just rented it when we're away, like when we're not 703 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 5: in the house. And we did it and it was 704 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 5: so easy, and we made, like you said, a little 705 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 5: extra income while I was away. And I thought like, 706 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 5: oh my gosh, why don't we do this every time 707 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 5: we travel? And I feel like, honestly now, as a family, 708 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: we travel more because we can just I mean, it's 709 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 5: it's not cheap to go anywhere these days, especially if 710 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 5: you have a family. And I remember one time we 711 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 5: were like, let's go on a road trip for a 712 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 5: long weekend, and we pulled over at a diner on 713 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: the side of the road, and our meal for my 714 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 5: five person family was so expensive. And so it really 715 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: does sort of justify that expense for us, is that 716 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 5: while we're gone, someone can be a guest at our 717 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 5: Airbnb and we can make, you know, a little extra 718 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 5: passive income. 719 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: While we're away. Okay, so you're going on tour this fall. 720 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm so curious which is the tougher crowd a comedy 721 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: club or the family dinner table. 722 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: Oh my god, my family, yeah, oh god, my family. 723 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: My children are like, what do you do? Why do 724 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: people think you're funny? 725 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 5: Like, no, no, no, I can crush on stage like 726 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 5: give me a theater or whatever. 727 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 728 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 5: Like at home, I'm the least funny person. In fact, 729 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 5: my kids think my husband is way funnier than me. 730 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 5: No way, Yeah, my husband's like the Human Pyramids, doing 731 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 5: the Human Pyramids and the music like way back at 732 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 5: that improv competition. I'm I'm slightly more cerebral. My kids 733 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 5: don't get. 734 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: It yet, you know what I mean. Jesse, thank you 735 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: so much for coming on the bright Side. Thanks for 736 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: joining us. Thank you guys. Jesse Crookshank is a stand 737 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: up comedian, TV host, a mom of three, and so 738 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: much more. You can catch Jesse on tour this fall, 739 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: and you can find her guest house on You Guessed 740 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: It Airbnb. This segment was in partnership with Airbnb. That's 741 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: it for today's show. Tomorrow, we're back with another edition 742 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: of shelf Life. Author Rainbow Rowl is here to talk 743 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: about her book Slow Dance, which is this month's Reese's 744 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: Book Club Pick. Listen and follow the bright Side on 745 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 746 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: I'm Simone Voice. You can find me at simone Voice, 747 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram and. 748 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 2: TikTok Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok that's ro Ba. 749 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: Y see you tomorrow, Folks, keep looking on the bright side.