1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: four hour NBA News. This's you, Chris Haynes. It's time, 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Mark Stein, it's some time. This League Uncut is underway 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: and on five this should be a good one. 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Gonna be a good one, indeed, a fresh and clean 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: edition of this League Uncut. As we move firmly into 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: the second round of the NBA Playoffs, Mark Stein here 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: with Chris Haynes. As always, eight teams left in the 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: race for a title. Those eight teams hold the lowest 10 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: composite winning percentage for a final eight in the history 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: of the NBA's sixteen team playoff format, which by the way, 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: turns forty years old next season. And that awesome stat 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: comes from our shared former teammate from ESPN, Kevin Pelton. 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: You got the defending champions in there as a number 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: six seed. Two playing teams in the second round for 16 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: the first time, the seven seeded Lakers the eighth seeded 17 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: Heat We're gonna get to all that We're gonna get, 18 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: of course, to Warriors Lakers. The series that Chris will 19 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: primarily be covering in Round two, Lebron James versus Stephen Curry. 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Round five in the playoffs starts later to night, but 21 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: we gotta start with this crazy Philly game. We are 22 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: recording Monday night for a Tuesday morning release of this pod. 23 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Game one the Sixers, with no Joel Embiid and James 24 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Harden goes for forty five, Tyrese Maxi goes for twenty 25 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: six seventy one combined from the Guards and without Joel Embiid, 26 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: they take a one to zero lead in Boston. Chris Haynes, 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 2: I did not see that coming at all. I know 28 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: obviously we're I mean Tuesday, later today, the MVP award 29 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: is going to be announced. Joel Embiid is has emerged 30 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: as the favorite to win that. I think we all 31 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: expect him to be announced as the MVP. But Joel Embiid, 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: he's told you, He's told me, he said it all 33 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: year long. All he wants to do is get to 34 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: the playoffs and be healthy. And here he is. He's 35 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 2: not healthy, but his guys just stepped up huge, and man, 36 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: the Sixers. This is this is this is a whopper 37 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: of an upset. 38 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anybody could have really saw 39 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: that coming in Boston. Game one, without arguably well I think, 40 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: like you said, he's gonna be the favorite to win 41 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 3: that MVP Award. James Harden turned back the hands of 42 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: time with that performance. That was vintage James Harden with 43 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 3: the Houston Rockets. That's what he did. You could tell 44 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: he was in a comfort zone. He didn't have to 45 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 3: really defer at all. It was his show and he 46 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: felt comfortable. He looked comfortable doing it. And then you 47 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: had Tyrese Maxi going off and being a speechter that 48 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: he is and making plays, getting downhill, hitting that jump shot. 49 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: Philly looked like they looked like a really good ball club. 50 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: He saw James Harden talking with my colleague Ali leave 51 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: Forth after the game and he said he was short, 52 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: but he was real candid with with his with his response. 53 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: His answer, he said, she asked like, how did it 54 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: feel to be back in that mold of the James 55 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: Harden of old. He said, I was gonna shoot regardless 56 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: whether they where they where, do they win in or not, 57 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: that's a different story. But I was gonna get my 58 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: shots up. So you know, he looked like a really 59 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: confident guy man. So it was good to see him 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: kind of back to his old ways. I know, a 61 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: lot of people felt like he may have lost a 62 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: step or lost the lost the ability to gain separation. 63 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: But he did that, and he did it against one 64 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: a tough one, a tougher defensive clubs we have. 65 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: I mean, there is so much to unpack just from 66 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: this one game, because really, with Milwaukee home for the 67 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: summer before the playoffs, if we would have said the 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: Bucks would lose in the first round, you would have 69 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I think most reasonable people in the NBA 70 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: would have said the Celtics Philly winner becomes the favorite 71 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: to win it all. But the Sixers now don't know 72 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: what kind of Joel Embiid they're going to have back 73 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: when he does come back. The Celtics just look like 74 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: a mess. I mean, they couldn't close out Atlanta when 75 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: they had the chance in Game five. They finished that 76 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 2: series in very limp fashion. And then for the Celtics 77 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: to come out in this game the day after the 78 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: Boston Bruins in the same building. This ain't a hockey podcast, 79 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: but yes I am a Buffalo Sabers fan, so I 80 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: do keep a little bit of an eye on it. 81 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 2: The Boston Bruins had the best regular season in hockey history. 82 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: They go up three to one. They lose Game seven 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: in overtime at home, out in the first round. Twenty 84 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 2: four hours later, the Celtics are back in the building 85 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: with a city in mourning because Boston fans love their 86 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: Bruins as much as they love the Celtics as much 87 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: as they love the Patriots. And with the city in mourning, 88 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: how you don't show up locked in to take advantage 89 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: of Philly when Embiid is not there? Is crazy? But 90 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: they look, I mean they finished the finish was I 91 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: mean indescribably bad. And I mean that, you know, again, 92 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: it's only one game, and we don't know even if 93 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: Embiid can come back in game two or game three, 94 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: whenever it is, we don't know how effective he'll actually be. 95 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 2: What would you do if you're the Sixers, do you 96 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: now sit him in game two to give him, you know, 97 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: three more extra days before game three? I mean, you've 98 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: got the split now in Boston. 99 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: I would sit them. I would sit them because the 100 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: Sixers have confidence now. And I know teams and players 101 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: like to say they always have confidence, but they won 102 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: Game one in Boston. That is not easy to do, 103 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: and so now they really do have confidence because they've 104 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: seen it happen, and I would sit them. I would 105 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: give him the extra rest, see if he can get 106 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: back for Game three in Philly. But I most definitely 107 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: ride the confidence that they have right now. Ride the wave. 108 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: See if James Harden and Tyres Maxi and those other 109 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: guys can step up again. And you never know, But definitely, 110 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: I think there's no way if I'm management, there's no 111 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: way that I allow Joel Embiid to come back for 112 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: game two. 113 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: I think we both know mister Embiid pretty well, but 114 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you how hard will it be 115 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: to sell him on that strategy? You think he'll see 116 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: the wisdom in it and say, yes, let me sit 117 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: out here because it's Game three is not till Friday, 118 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: it's not too Friday. 119 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: But I think it's easier to sell him on that 120 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: being at they won game one. I think he gets 121 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: that because ultimately, like he's told us time and time again, 122 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 3: his number one goal is a championship, right, so it 123 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: looks like he's going to get MVP. He's going to 124 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: be happy with that. He's definitely going to be pleased 125 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: by finally being able to raise that award. Up in 126 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: the air. But championship is what's most important. So if 127 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: that's what's most important, then you have to put your 128 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 3: health first and foremost. And if that means wait until Friday, 129 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: I think he'll be willing to do that considering the sething, 130 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, considering the sixth were able to get game one. 131 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I do think for him, I mean, were 132 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: he to win MVP but then the Sixers to go 133 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: out in the second round. Again, I mean, I don't 134 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: want to say hollow because like, like we both know 135 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: he does want that award and it does mean a 136 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: lot to him and to finally check off that box. Mean, 137 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: you know, that's a big deal to him. But he 138 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: does need a playoff run. I you know, he needs 139 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: a playoff run. A long playoff run is least as 140 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: at least as much as he needs the MVP award. 141 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean this is and look, we don't 142 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: know for sure, but just the way that this is 143 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: all kind of played out, the Nuggets will have played 144 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: both of their first two games against Phoenix. I mean, 145 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: they're they're playing game two as we speak. So you know, 146 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: when if Yokic won the MVP, you'd think that that 147 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: would have already been announced that the league wouldn't announce 148 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: it when Yokic is about to go play two games 149 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: in Phoenix. So I do think Embiid is going to 150 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: be announced as the MVP later today. But man, we 151 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: got to I mean, what about James Harden? Seriously, he 152 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: He's been crushed for years for his playoff performance. He 153 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: was crushed tonight for that. Did you see the did 154 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: you see the pregame fit? As the kids would say, 155 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: am I allowed to say it like that? Can I 156 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: say it like that? Or do I sound ridiculous? 157 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: What do you think? 158 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: What do you think of the well pregame fit? 159 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: I think David Stern is rolling over in his grave 160 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: right now with what we allow to happen with this 161 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: dress code. He would David Stern would definitely not approve that. 162 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: That bagging thiss That is beyond bagging this, That's beyond 163 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: the baggingess that we were putting ourselves in the nineties 164 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: early two thousand. It's it's he's taking He took it 165 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: a couple of degrees up with that style. You know, 166 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm not a stylish I'm not a stylist 167 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: at all. You know, I'm just now getting back into 168 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: getting into custom suits and being tailored, and you know 169 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: suits fit in your body mold. So what James Harden 170 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: pulled away with that, that's the complete opposite of what 171 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: I'm doing right now. So whatever flows you up, both 172 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: him and and SGA over there in ok See. You 173 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: know they're they're known by you know, most of the 174 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: players to beat some of the sharpest dressers. You hear 175 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: that sharpest dressers we happen to lead. That's that's the 176 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: courting to them. You ask people outside the NBA, They'll 177 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: probably have to give you a different tale. 178 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 2: Let's say he got crushed for the look he got. 179 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: You know, his playoff history always gets thrown in his face. 180 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: And then on top of all that, you know he 181 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: was seen in Vegas during this week off that the 182 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: Sixers had to kind of yo. You know, they they 183 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: finished off Brooklyn quick, and you know, we were thinking, okay, 184 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: this is extra time for for maybe Joel Embiid's need 185 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: to heal, and all of a sudden, there's James Harden 186 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: sighting in Vegas that I don't know what. 187 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: Hold on you mentioned a signing in Vegas? Stein hold On, 188 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: I got room so Stein, Yes, come come on here, 189 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 3: I mean, come on. 190 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: What Yes, America, this is what happens on the This 191 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: League Uncut podcast. You remember, early in the history of 192 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: the show, when we were really a fledgling show, Chris 193 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: Haynes had to stop one episode because the pizza delivery 194 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 2: man rang the doorbell. But this, this is more excusable. 195 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: I think we're not gonna find him because he is 196 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: on the road. He is in a hotel getting ready 197 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: for Game one of Lakers sixers. So the room service, 198 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: you know he's in a nice hotel though, because there 199 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: was not a knock on the door, there was a 200 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: doorbell ring. So when the doorbell rings at a hotel, 201 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: that tells you that that TNT's got Chris Haynes hooked 202 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: up and he stands somewhere nice. 203 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: A brother has to eat. Oh but that's what I 204 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: was saying. So, Stein, you brought up James Hard James 205 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 3: Harden's sighting in Vegas. What was he seen doing? Can 206 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: you tell me that? Stin? 207 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 4: I have to ask do? I had to ask? 208 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: Man? I thought I thought he made some news somewhat 209 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: with his side of it. Maybe I was wrong. I 210 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: thought they said he did something I don't know. 211 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: I don't know either. 212 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: That's why I don't know. 213 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm just waiting for the explanation. I don't know either. 214 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: I doubt we get an explanation style. I highly doubt that. 215 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: Can you imagine, hikesaun stide? Can you imagine? Because I 216 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: think this is the first time Hard has been in 217 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: front of reporters, can you imagine him getting asked that 218 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: question after after? It's nice? 219 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: This is the playoff game of his life. So maybe 220 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: it's a good time because he can say pretty he 221 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: can say pretty much anything now and uh, and it's 222 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: gonna They're gonna bless it. Do we need to take 223 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: a break so you can have this room service meal? 224 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: No, so my my best friend and Terrence Hall drove 225 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: down from Fresno to come kicking with me. So this 226 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: is actually his food, So it's for him, I ad. 227 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: So your idea of a way to, you know, reconnect 228 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: with one of your best friends is hey, come come 229 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: hang out with me and watch me talk on a podcast. 230 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: No, it's not like that. Usually when my friends find 231 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: out I'm near, they just come over uninvited. That's usually 232 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 3: how it works. And it's not like I keep it 233 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: a secret. You know, there was a press release of 234 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 3: what out says. I decided I reported for game one 235 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 3: the Lakers and Warriors. So that's how my friends are 236 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: all right? 237 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: That was not part of tonight's plan discussion. But like 238 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: I said, I'm not sure we can say that anymore 239 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: because we need a lot more clarity on the Joel 240 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: Embiid health situation. But wow, I mean, Philly winning Game 241 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 2: one was not in the script, and James Harden with 242 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: the playoff game of his life. After all of these 243 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: other interesting sidebars to the discussion, what I wanted to 244 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: ask you when we got together tonight was is this 245 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 2: the year of the lower seed again? Warriors number six? 246 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: Take out number three Sacramento. The Lakers as a number seven, 247 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: take out number two Memphis, the Heat as a number eight, 248 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: as we all know, take out number one Milwaukee in 249 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: historic fashion in five games. Boston is a two versus three. 250 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: But as we've said fifteen times already, Tonight and Beads 251 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: got this knee situation, the Celtics have looked like an 252 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: absolute mess. I mean, we knew this season was wide open, 253 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: but I think it's even more wide open now than 254 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: we anticipated. After a bizarre regular season like Warriors, Lakers, Heat. 255 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: Could our chie champion really come from that trio? I 256 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: guess you've been saying you've kind of been a Lakers 257 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: believer now for a while, which I clearly have not. 258 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, ever since they made those moves at the deadline. 259 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: But I will say about you know, the point about 260 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: lower seeds taking down the higher season is this the season. 261 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: I think there's an exception for a few of those teams. 262 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: I think there should be an exception made. Let me 263 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: know if you agree or not. I believe there should 264 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: be exception made for the Warriors and the Lakers. The 265 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: only team that I feel like is really in that 266 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: boat of a true lower seed is the Miami Heat. 267 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: The Lakers got better at the deadline, so they you know, 268 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: they climbed up the rankings ever since they made those moves, 269 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: so they're really a better team than their seating. And 270 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: the same thing for the Warriors. They were dealing with injuries, 271 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: Stephen Curry out, so they're a better team than their seating. 272 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: The Miami Heat is really the only team out there 273 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: that you can't say, well healthy, didn't make any moves. 274 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: They're really a number eight seed and they took the 275 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: hard way of the playoff playing route to get to 276 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: the playoffs. That's probably really the most spectacular thing that 277 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: we've seen as far in the playoffs. But to answer 278 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: your to answer your question going into the postseason, Phoenix 279 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: was my team that I said, I think, you know, 280 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: that's not looking too good as of right now. No, 281 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: it's only one game. But Denver is looking really good. 282 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people, include myself, were 283 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: sleeping on a bit. But Warriors and the Lakers they're 284 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: better than let me see what the sixth and seven seed. Yeah, 285 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: they're better than the sixth and seventh seed. And uh, 286 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: you know, Philly and Boston they were right there for 287 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: a minute. And uh, but I do I do feel 288 00:16:52,360 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: like hmmm, I feel like, hmmm, do I want to 289 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 3: say this? I'm a bail. I'm a bail. I'm not 290 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: saying that I'm a bail. I was stine. I was 291 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: gonna say something that was gonna have me in some 292 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: hot water. SI, it was gonna have me in some 293 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 3: hot water because I was gonna pick a team because 294 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 3: I really feel this way. 295 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 2: But I'm a whole is what you're saying. 296 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: This will get aggreated. What I was thinking right now 297 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: is we'll get acting. But Stein, I learned from you 298 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: because a lot of times you tell me, don't just 299 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: say what I'm thinking at that moment, give us, give. 300 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: Us something hugely. You ignore my advice. 301 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: I do most of the time. I but the tip, 302 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: ask for my old head counsel. 303 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: And then you just do it anyway, which I which 304 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: I actually admire because I wish because I'm too safe. 305 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: You always have. 306 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: The gumption to say, you know what, I'm just gonna Stein, 307 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: thanks for looking out, but uh no, I'm gonna do 308 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 2: it anyway. 309 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: But Stian, how many times have I said something on 310 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: this pod? You let it go, and then once the 311 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: pot is done, you go back to our super producer 312 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: Ryan and you say, hey, Ryan, I think we should 313 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: take out what Chris said in a ten to fifteen. 314 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: Let's take it out. 315 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh. 316 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: The whole time the rest of the pod, I'm thinking, 317 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: like I'm weighed it. I'm like, should I have said that? 318 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 4: That may or may not. 319 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: Have happened once or twice in this show's brief history. 320 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: So I listen to you. I listen to you. 321 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: I can't confirm or deny that the larger question here, 322 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: and the truth is we can't answer it yet. Is 323 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 2: has something materially changed in the league, Like do we 324 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: have new found lasting parody? And I would caution that 325 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: there's just no way for us to have that answer 326 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: and know that yet. There's just no way because this 327 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: season was so bizarre. I mean, we've we have covered 328 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: this in the past. This is the nineteenth season in 329 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: the league where you had thirty franchises. In the first 330 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: eighteen of those seasons, the West averaged five point three 331 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 2: fifty win teams. This season, there were only two, and 332 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: a lot of that was because we had so much 333 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there was just widespread injury throughout the West, 334 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: and it makes it harder to judge, Like, you know, 335 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,239 Speaker 2: how can we say it now that this is that 336 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: this is the new NBA and it's the new way 337 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: it is when a we don't even know what kind 338 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: of roster changes we're gonna see from teams for next season. 339 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: I mean, a bunch of teams could look drastically different. 340 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I do agree with what you 341 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: were saying earlier. The Warriors, they're not your normal number 342 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: six seed. They're the defending champs. They had to play 343 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: long stretches of the season with no Steph and no Wiggins. 344 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins missed forty five games, Stephen Curry missed twenty six. 345 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: The Lakers, like you said, that's a completely different team now, 346 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: they made four trades between January twenty third and February ninth. 347 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: It is a new roster. And I would actually where 348 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: I would disagree with you. I think even the Heat 349 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: belong in this category to a degree because I checked 350 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: with the great Jeff Stotts from in street Clothes dot com, 351 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: and he keeps a database on every injury in the league. 352 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: And you know, the Heat were fourth in games lost 353 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: to injury this season. Only Detroit, Portland and Orlando lost 354 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 2: more games to injury. So even they had a very 355 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: up and down regular season. And even now with this 356 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: one to zero lead that they take into MSG for 357 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: Game two, you know, Jimmy Butler's playing with an injury now, 358 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: and they've lost Tyler Herro and they lost Victor Oladipo. 359 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: So this is such a strange season. I just I 360 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: don't know yet if this is the new way. But 361 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: you know, Lawrence Frank dropped this stat last week when 362 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: he was doing his season ending media, and he brought 363 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: it up. Basically, he was saying, the Clippers need to 364 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: take the regular season more seriously than they have because 365 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: if you look at it, the last twenty eight champions 366 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: in the NBA have been a top three seed. We 367 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 2: have not seen a champion in the NBA outside the 368 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: top three since the Houston Rockets in nineteen ninety five, 369 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: my first full year covering the NBA. 370 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 3: So I like that he said that, Stuy, But who 371 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 3: was he talking to? 372 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's I mean, he was clearly from my seat, 373 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: clearly talking to Kawhi and PG. So how do you 374 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: think that landed with them? I mean, that's really the 375 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: question because obviously they you know, Lawrence Frank was effusive 376 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: in his praise of those guys, and he said, the 377 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: Clippers want to resign those guys and keep those guys. 378 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: But if you're talking about taking the regular season more seriously, 379 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: he could only that could only mean he was referring 380 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: to Kawhi and Paul George, unless I'm completely missing the point. 381 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: I just want to get. 382 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: Great, so you just let let me get aggregated. Thanks, 383 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: that's all right, Let's talk talk about the Marquee series. 384 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: Of Round two. You're gonna be on it both TV 385 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: wise and writing wise, and you're already there. Warriors Lakers. 386 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm I kind of brought this up 387 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: already on Twitter, but I don't think we can say 388 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: it enough, and it'll be in my story that posts 389 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: today on substack. You know, the joke always used to 390 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 2: be in the David Stern era, the dream series in 391 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: the NBA offices, when they would talk about their absolute 392 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: if they could do any playoff matchup that they could, 393 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: if they could really control it and joystick it, that 394 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: their dream series would be Lakers versus Lakers because nothing 395 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: would get better ratings, and Lakers versus Warriors Lebron versus 396 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: Steph is probably as close to the mythical Lakers versus 397 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Lakers matchup. I mean, this is going to be the 398 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: series that TV ratings or you know, that TV executives 399 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: dream of, because you know, these guys have already met 400 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: on the final stage four times. They met on the 401 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 2: playing stage once, even though the record books you can't 402 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 2: even find that. You tell me, I mean, how psyched 403 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: are you to be to be on this one? I mean, 404 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 2: this is this is uh, you know, Draymond's gonna say 405 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: you're spying for the Lakers. 406 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: And I mean, I hope we got over that already. 407 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope I was able to convince them. 408 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: But Stan, you know, allow me to reflect real quick, man, 409 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: Like I grew up Fresne, California, west side of Fresnel. 410 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: And. 411 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: I remember watching NBA games on NBC and we went 412 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: to church every Sunday early in the morning, and so 413 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 3: I will only catch about the first quarter of the 414 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: games that came on. And usually the first games will 415 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: be those Eastern Conference games, be the New York Knicks, 416 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: you know, being down in California, but that music would 417 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: come on, you know, the NBC music. We talked about that, 418 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: and I just remember watching Ahmad Rashad Peter Vesi doing 419 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 3: sidelines for those games, and for some reason, you know, 420 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: as an eight year old, nine year old kid, you know, 421 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 3: they stood out to me. And that's way before I 422 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 3: even even thought about pursuing journalism or anything. First of all, 423 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think about pursuing that until my late twenties. 424 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: But man, I am so honored, man so honored to 425 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 3: be doing this, doing this game, covering this game, being 426 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 3: on the sidelines for the Lakers Warriors, Lebron, Steph. I've 427 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: covered Lebron for ten years. I've covered Steph for what 428 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 3: was it about four or five years? Man, it hasn't 429 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: hit home, man, So I'm excited. I'm I'm stoked, Man, 430 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm super stoked to be on it. What do I expect? 431 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know 432 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: what I'll expect Stein, But I'll tell you this, man, 433 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: I know Lebron, James and Stephen Curry. They're definitely up 434 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: for this task. This was I talked to Lebron believe 435 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 3: I believe it was his first year when he came 436 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 3: with the Lakers, and we were talking about these scenarios 437 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: about what the NBA. We was having just a conversation 438 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: on the side about what the dream matchups the NBA 439 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: wants to wants to see. And he brought that up, Star, 440 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: he brought that up, said for sure they want the 441 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 3: Lakers or Warriors. You know at that time he said 442 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: Lakers Warriors Western Conference Finals. And you know this is 443 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: the second round. But this is man, I can't wait, Starn. 444 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I'm very humble, man, Thank God for 445 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: this opportunity man, So hopefully I can do my job 446 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: and stay out the way and let them perform. 447 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm happy for you. I mean that's you know, obviously, 448 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: that's I can hear the excitement in your voice. I 449 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: totally get. It's funny though, like just just what you know, 450 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: the age difference between us, because I you know, of 451 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: your generation, there is such reverence for the NBC broadcast 452 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: and the song you know, Roundball Rock. But I feel 453 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: the exact same way about the eighties when it was 454 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: on CBS, and like the CBS music from the eighties 455 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: will just stop me in my tracks. 456 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: I like, yeah, I have to. I don't even know 457 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: if that sounds like that. I need to go to that. 458 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: Because there was you know, basketball was the NBA was 459 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: very very much the third class citizen. You know, Baseball 460 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: was almost on equal footing with the NFL. And when 461 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: I was probably you know, when I was really just 462 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: becoming a sports fan in the seventies, I would argue 463 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 2: baseball had a larger profile. So, I mean, you know, 464 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: throughout the eighties, baseball and football, you know it it 465 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: took Magic and Mic, It took Magic and Larry and 466 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: then Michael to, you know, push the NBA to the 467 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: heights that had ultimately reached. But in the eighties a 468 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: national TV game on CBS, they were rarer and just 469 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: like I said, I would hear that. I'm surprised you 470 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: actually haven't heard this like that the eighties CBS music 471 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 2: like oh, just like perfection and yeah, I get misty 472 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: eye just think about that. So it's just just funny 473 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: the uh you know that you feel the same way 474 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: about about the nineties, and I'm sure, I'm sure, mister 475 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 2: VESSI will love hearing the hearing you say that. I mean, look, 476 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: but this series, like we talk about Lebron being, you know, 477 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: the greatest thirty eight year old we've ever seen, and 478 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: nobody has ever aged like him. I think we got 479 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: to start saying that about Steph. He looks fantastic and 480 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: it's I remember when the Mavericks went on their title 481 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: run in twenty eleven, and I would talk a lot 482 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: about this with Paija Stoyakovich, who was a former All 483 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: Star and a great shooter scorer in his own right, 484 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 2: but at that point he was a role player, and 485 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: Pajia would marvel at what Dirk was doing on that 486 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: title run in twenty eleven, and when I would speak 487 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: about this with Paiga, he would say, like Dirk, you know, 488 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: we would both kind of say that. You know, Dirk 489 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: is a surgeon now like in his later stages, he 490 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: knew exactly what he wanted to do, exactly how to 491 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: get to his spots, exactly how to operate. And that's 492 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: just that's how I feel with Steph. 493 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 4: I mean, he. 494 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 2: You know, he would not let his team lose that 495 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: Game seven in Sacramento, and uh, you know got inside 496 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: more than really we've ever seen him. You know, took 497 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: the thirty eight shots on a on a on an 498 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: afternoon that most of his teammates outside of Kaan Looney 499 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 2: didn't have it. I mean, that was that was surgeon like. 500 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: So here's a I might regret going on to this topic, 501 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: but again it's. 502 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: A good say something, say something, say something crazy, so 503 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: it takes takes the focus off whatever I've said. 504 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 3: Stile. So now Steph, I mean, he's he's gotten this 505 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: recognition before, but after that performance Game seven, people are 506 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 3: saying the greatest point guard in history. I don't know 507 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: that I have a problem with that. The hard thing 508 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: about that sinking in for me, is is he the 509 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: best point guard ever? Or is he the best player 510 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: to be labeled a point guard? Does that make. 511 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: Because I don't I don't look at him as a 512 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: pure point guard. 513 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, I don't. I don't need 514 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: but people will go people get crazy when you say that. 515 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: They get defensive about that, and so it's like I 516 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 3: have a hard time, like, are we talking about you know, 517 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: are we talking about he's the best point guard ever? 518 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: Because the point guard has certain obligations, certain responsibilities. And 519 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: I'm not saying, Steph, I'll see I'm gonna get myself 520 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: in trouble, but you get what I'm. 521 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: Saying, and you're not. Look, you're not getting in any 522 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: trouble with me. I mean, to me, greatest point guard. Like, 523 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty hard to rest that mantle for 524 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. I you know, I don't. I don't think 525 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: he's not gonna get like that. One's not up for 526 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: debate for me. But you know, the debate is communist 527 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Steph a top ten player? And I say unequivocally, yes, 528 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: he is a top ten player, not only not only 529 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: for his complete body of work, which he's you know, 530 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: after winning the Finals MVP. He's won everything now. But 531 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: also when you bring in the change the game factors, 532 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: he has that, and you know, Dirk had that too, 533 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: and I thought that was you know, Dirk only has 534 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: one championship on his resume, but that's one of the 535 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: things that I think puts Dirk in the top twenty. 536 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: Dirk changed his position. Stephen Curry changed what constitute a 537 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: good shot in the NBA. He changed the shooting range 538 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: for a whole generation. And I looked this up. Howard 539 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: Beck did a piece on Steph last year and Draymond 540 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: had this fantastic quote in here, which I think backs 541 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 2: up your point. Steph'son anomaly. He's different than anything we've 542 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: ever seen in this league. He's not Alan Iverson, he's 543 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: not Isaiah Thomas, he's not Ray Allen, he's not Reggie Miller. 544 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: He's like some mix of all those guys. So I'm 545 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 2: in total agreement with you and Draymond. He's not a 546 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: point guard. I don't even look at him like that, 547 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: especially in this positionless era. But you know, we we 548 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: could do a whole show debating top ten, and for 549 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: some people, they're not going to have Steph in the 550 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: top ten, But you know, I think he belongs there. 551 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: I'll put the top ten. Yeah, I put them top ten. 552 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 3: But is there anybody else that's in that category where 553 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: we really can't give them a position, like they really 554 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 3: don't do, not hold a primary position. They're just great, 555 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: They're just great basketb. 556 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: Play At this point, I mean, what is Lebron's position? 557 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: He's played them all, I mean except center. Yeah, I 558 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: mean he's He's been elite as a one, as a four, 559 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: as a three. I mean, so I don't I don't 560 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: think he I don't think you can put him him 561 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: in a positional box either. 562 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think most people say he's a small four, 563 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 3: But I get your point. He's played at all. 564 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: Obviously, Will Russell kareem their centers, MJ is, you know, 565 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: the quintessential two guard of all time, And obviously you 566 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: know he's a lot of people's goat. But I think, 567 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: I you know, that's the thing is, I think I 568 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: think Lebron and Steph who've played the bulk of their 569 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: career in this positionless era. Yeah, like, I'm not so 570 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 2: hung up on player designations. But look, whatever we say, 571 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: people will disagree with it. That's fine. These are. You know, 572 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: these are all topics that everybody gets, you know, crazy 573 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: mad about. 574 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: I mean. 575 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: Series wise. You know, I'm picking the Warriors. I'm not 576 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: picking against you know, last year I said it, I 577 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: I last year I got all swept up in you know, 578 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: the MAVs took out Phoenix and I actually made the 579 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: regrettable mistake, despite having spent so much time with the 580 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: Warriors for the first three years their dynasty. I you know, 581 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: I picked the Mavericks to beat the Warriors and was 582 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: made to look foolish. Huge mistake. The Warriors and all 583 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: their playoff know how Sacramento just experienced it. You know, 584 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: how much did we talk about the Kings going or 585 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: how much do we talk about the Warriors being eleven 586 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: and thirty on the road and then well, the only 587 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: road record that matters is they're two and one now 588 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 2: on the road and they got two road or two 589 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: and two on the road, and they got two wins 590 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: and sack and and there in the second round. I 591 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: just a d and Lebron are gonna know. Ad was 592 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: a defensive monster in the Memphis series. I mean he 593 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 2: was He showed you what the best defensive player in 594 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: the league looks like he was. You know, when Anthony 595 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: Davis plays like that, he is the best defensive force 596 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: in the league, but offensively he was a bit up 597 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: and down. I think both he and Lebron are gonna 598 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: have to play at a higher level in this round 599 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: for them to beat the Warriors. I just, you know, 600 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: unless the Lakers others come up huge. You know, if 601 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: Reeves and Hatchamura and Vanderbilt and but Beasley and all 602 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 2: these guys. You know, if you know, if those guys 603 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 2: play above themselves, I might look foolish here, but I'm 604 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm not picking against Golden State after what they just 605 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: did not in the West. 606 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 3: Can we Giveloney unreal? Oh my goodness. So I'm I 607 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: want to see this matchup Kavan Looney Anthony Davis. I 608 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 3: want to see if he can have a similar impact 609 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 3: defensively on the game like he did in dominating his 610 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 3: matchup with th My Sabonis Man. Kavan Looney was a beast, 611 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, the unsung hero of the Golden State Wars. 612 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: I've been saying this one for years. Find yourself someone 613 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 2: who loves you the way Steve Kerr loves Kevon Looney, 614 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,479 Speaker 2: Kavan Looney is Steve Kerr's favorite player. I've told Steve 615 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: Kerr that I say this. He laughs because he knows 616 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: it's true. But I mean, what that guy is an 617 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 2: incredible story, the player that he's become after all the 618 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: injuries to now become an iron man who never missed 619 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: his games and a twenty rebound machine. I mean, that's 620 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: the thing. I just you know, there are a lot 621 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 2: of things that the Lakers are gonna have to overcome 622 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: to win this series. But you're lucky man, envious that 623 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: that you're gonna be right there in the middle of 624 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: it all. 625 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: And I have to My friend is getting on me 626 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: right now because he was the one that was telling 627 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: me I'm not giving Kval Loony enough love, So you know, 628 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 3: I have to give him a shout out. My guy 629 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 3: t Hall over here at Terrence Hall, he was the 630 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 3: one to put it. 631 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: You buy T Hall's room service. 632 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm taking care of it. He got some he 633 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: got some pizza and some wings. He got some piece 634 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 3: and some wings. I'm taking care of it. That's how 635 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 3: your friends do, Star. They come over visit and order 636 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 3: room service. 637 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 4: Man. 638 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,479 Speaker 2: Oh you I might just show up for like Game 639 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: three or Game four and just knock on, ring the ring. 640 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: I can't knock on the door because you stay in 641 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: such nice places. I gotta ring the doorbell. 642 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: These are my frids. Man, get you some friends. Man 643 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: show up unexpectedly and charge your room service. Those are 644 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: good friends, man, he said, the best the world. 645 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna let you and t Hall enjoy 646 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 2: the rest of the evening. Look, there's lots more here 647 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: that we're gonna get to. A Grizzlies post mortem after 648 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: the way memphisis season ended. What this means going forward 649 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: for John Morant, What this means going forward for Dylan Brooks. 650 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: I think there's a growing sense around the league that 651 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 2: questioning there's certainly questions about the Grizzlies appetite going forward. 652 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: Do they really want to bring Dylan Brooks back? Is 653 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: that a change we're gonna see from the Grizzlies. But look, 654 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking lots about the Grizzlies. I think 655 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: once we start moving in to the off season portion 656 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: of the show, we will get more into Denver Phoenix, 657 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: which Game two is going on as we record this 658 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: Game two of Nick's Heat Tuesday Night, Amazing season for 659 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 2: the Kings. I mean it was you know, and we've 660 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 2: talked a lot about the Kings, but you know, I 661 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: really kind of feel like, yes, they had a two 662 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 2: zero lead and couldn't convert it, But to me, there's 663 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: nothing that can besmirch their season after missing the playoffs 664 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 2: sixteen years in a row, just to do what they 665 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: did and push the Warriors the way they did. I'm 666 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 2: sure they're disappointed, and I know Kings fans are probably inconsolable, 667 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: but I still think when they step away that that 668 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 2: season is going to go down as a success. 669 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 3: Hell of a year year. I can't take that boy 670 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 3: for him. 671 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: All Right, it was a great first round. Let's hope 672 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 2: the second round can maintain that level. Injuries, of course, 673 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 2: are always the thing that can throw us. And you know, 674 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 2: we got a monitor the Jimmy Butler situation, got a 675 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: monitor what happens next with them bed but both of 676 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: their teams, Miami and Philly. By winning Game one on 677 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 2: the road, their teams have this option. Now, maybe they 678 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 2: rest the star in game two and you know, bring 679 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: Butler back, bring them be back in game three, and 680 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 2: hope that those guys are a little bit closer to 681 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: the expected level. We'll get into all of that in 682 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: the next edition of This League, Uncut later this week. 683 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 2: In the meantime, everyone please rate, review, subscribe to the show. 684 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: Chris and I'll be back in a couple of days 685 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 2: with more. Thanks for being with us. 686 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 4: Everybody, and that'll do it for us. See you next time. 687 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: This League Uncut is and iHeartRadio production. 688 00:39:52,120 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 4: Chris Haynes and Mark Stein. 689 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 2: Don't