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Speaker 2: Hey, Hurdler's Emily a body popping in to your feed

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Speaker 2: with episode one hundred and twenty three of Hurdle, a

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw this out there. If you

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Speaker 1: my activism has been reawakened since Memorial Day more. You know,

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Speaker 1: it started with the Amad Aubrey thing, and I really

435
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: was It was just it was so heavy on me.

436
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Speaker 1: It was so heavy on me to talk about it.

437
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Speaker 1: I did something on my story where I actually like

438
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: cried about it and I was gonna delete it, and

439
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: I was like, no, like this is real, So I

440
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: left it up. And so many people are like, oh,

441
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: I feel this way too, or my god, I didn't

442
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: know that this kind of thing was still happening, like

443
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: many different reactions, and then it just kept happening. And

444
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: then obviously like the George Floyd thing happened, and it

445
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: just kept happening. And then we had you know, the

446
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Speaker 1: Blackout Tuesday, and I wasn't gonna and I was like,

447
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm black. I don't need to be

448
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: blacked out today. And I got on an Instagram live

449
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: with one of my white friends waking up with Ryan,

450
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: who does like amazing. He's a life coach, a meditation teacher,

451
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: like all the things, incredibly awakened and enlightened, and who

452
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: just wanted to listen and learn. And we did that

453
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: on Blackout Tuesday, and the response was overwhelming, and it

454
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: just sort of kept culminating from there and I feel

455
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Speaker 1: like we're in a moment. We have a moment in

456
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Speaker 1: history right now where eyes are like truly being opened

457
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Speaker 1: across the board. So that's what sparked my activism is

458
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: the opportunity and feeling like, is this an opportunity for

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Speaker 1: us to create real and lasting change.

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Speaker 2: Before we go back into your story, I do have

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Speaker 2: a question for you on this note, is that how

462
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Speaker 2: does it feel for you to be the person that

463
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to either within your

464
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Speaker 2: circle or perhaps complete strangers just via the Internet for

465
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: your opinion or advice, Like I would imagine that it

466
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Speaker 2: can be pretty heavy.

467
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Speaker 1: It can. And what I say is I believe that

468
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Speaker 1: black women in particular were made for this moment. I

469
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Speaker 1: think that inside of us is some is there. There's

470
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Speaker 1: always a level, right if you take a look at

471
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Speaker 1: everything that's going on, and there's there's actually a group

472
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Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles called Black Women Lead and the fatigue,

473
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Speaker 1: like all, when you have the opportunity to serve a

474
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Speaker 1: greater good, the fatigue becomes just something that is there

475
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Speaker 1: that you simply push through. Because Emily, I feel more

476
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Speaker 1: at any other time in the world, that what we

477
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: are doing right now is so incredibly important that whether

478
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: or not I'm tired is somewhat irrelevant because I am

479
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: so motivated at the opportunity that we have as a country,

480
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: as human beings to come together. So yes, do I

481
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: maybe need to go to Mexico when things sort of

482
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: settle down, or even if I go to Mexico for

483
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: a week right now, knowing that there's other people that

484
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: will pick that up and keep it going. Is it exhausting, yes,

485
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Speaker 1: But is it serving a purpose that I feel like

486
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Speaker 1: I can see, I can see the vision of where

487
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: we can go as not just a country, but as

488
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: a world, And that to me is so much more

489
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: important than my fatigue. And I know that all over

490
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: the internet they're like, oh, your black friends are tired,

491
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: and guess what, Well, I'm a black friend that regardless

492
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Speaker 1: of whether or not I'm tired, I am willing to

493
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Speaker 1: have this conversation because this moment is too precious, it's

494
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: too real, it's too polarizing, It is too important for

495
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Speaker 1: me to think about whether or not I'm tired.

496
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Speaker 2: So, to reiterate, Michelle's Instagram handle is at Michelle, she

497
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 2: wants to talk to you. Yeah, she does though, And

498
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Speaker 2: I mean, and I think that's so valuable, and it's

499
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Speaker 2: so it just speaks to your character. And it also

500
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Speaker 2: is important what you said about understanding that rest is

501
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: a part of it. Like, of course, again, you're a

502
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: solutions person. You're the person people call when they might

503
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: need an answer. You're the person that people call when

504
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: they don't know what to do, and that makes you

505
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: a godsend. But again, for you to recognize and prioritize

506
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: this idea that at times you are going to need

507
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: to take a step back and that doesn't make you

508
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Speaker 2: a bad person.

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Speaker 1: That's important, right, And like I have a life, and

510
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: obviously during this pandemic, I still have to make money.

511
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: So it's so interesting, Like so many people are like, oh, well,

512
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: I have an Instagram for this, And why can't we

513
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: be like we were going talking to earlier to come

514
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: back full circle. Why can't we do more than one thing?

515
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: Why can't I teach classes and be an activist and

516
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: be an actor? Why do I need to have quote

517
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: unquote three separate instagrams? Why why do I have to

518
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, why do I have to be fractured into pieces.

519
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: I think the things in life that make you feel

520
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: as though you should be fractured into pieces might not

521
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: be the right things that fit into your life.

522
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: Right. Yes, yes, And I want everyone to be able

523
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: to see that because you're a lawyer doesn't mean that

524
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: you can't also teach classes sometimes. And don't get me wrong,

525
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: you might pick one thing and be like, this is

526
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: my thing. But I'm saying that regardless of what you choose,

527
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Speaker 1: whether you choose three quote unquote things that you focus

528
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: on or just one, we are all individuals and we

529
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: have the right to choose, and neither answer is wrong.

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Speaker 1: If you are good to people, and you are working

531
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Speaker 1: as hard as you can, and you are trying as

532
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: hard as you can to do the right thing, I

533
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: truly don't believe that there is a limit on what

534
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: anyone in this world can and can't do. There is

535
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: no limit on your gifts and what you have to offer.

536
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: You can be all of it. You are allowed to

537
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: be all of it. Nobody here is just a mom,

538
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: just a sister, just a lawyer, just a podcaster, just

539
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: an athlete. We are more. You are more than just this.

540
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: And when society attempts to put you in that box.

541
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: You have every right to say no. I can do

542
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: what I want to do and I can be who

543
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: and what I want to be. And if you don't

544
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: think that I can do it, that's fine. That has

545
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: nothing to do with me. But you can watch me shine.

546
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: So you run out of the spin studio running into life.

547
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: What's happening with your life after you're done with school

548
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: in New York.

549
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: So when I was done with school in New York,

550
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: I met a guy who had gone to NYU way

551
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: before me, and we were in a long distance relationship,

552
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: and I started acting on shows I did. I was

553
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: on All My Children for several episodes. And this is

554
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: a fun fact, I got my sad card on The Sopranos.

555
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: Love It.

556
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really cute and a lot of fun

557
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: in James Gandelfhini was so nice to me. And I

558
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: had an offer to understudy on Broadway, and I just

559
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like it was my gig. I was

560
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: maybe I was young and impetuous and I was frustrated

561
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: that I didn't get the job or whatever it was,

562
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't the way that I wanted. And

563
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, and I was waiting tables till

564
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Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning, going to auditions, exhausted like

565
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: doing all of the things. And I had done Shakespeare

566
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Speaker 1: and Dari and Connecticut, and I said, I don't think

567
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: I want to do regional theater for the rest of

568
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Speaker 1: my life. It's just not my calling to sort of

569
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: jump from town to town and do you know the

570
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: latest August Wilson player, the latest Shakespeare play. Although I

571
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: think that stuff is great, I didn't want to get

572
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: into sort of that trap. That was not my chosen path.

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Speaker 1: And so I packed my bags. I'm from San Francisco,

574
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: born and raised. And I went home and my dad

575
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Speaker 1: had his old BMW I was really old, had like

576
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: over one hundred thousand miles on it. And I took

577
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: my dad's old car that was just sitting there, and

578
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: I went to Los Angeles. And I was lucky enough

579
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Speaker 1: to have booked a voiceover, a pretty large voiceover. Do

580
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: you remember those Carrot Top voiceovers back in the day,

581
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Speaker 1: the AT and T commercials.

582
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: One hundred That was my voice.

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Speaker 1: So I saved the money from waiting tables and from

584
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 1: a play that I had done, and from those Carrot

585
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: Top voiceovers and I moved to Los Angeles and I

586
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: got a one bedroom apartment in Culver City, and I

587
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: did it work for a while, and then had a

588
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Speaker 1: really good year. One of my amazing claims to fame,

589
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: I got to wear a matching suit with Brad Pitt

590
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: in Ocean's twelve. You mostly hear my voice more than

591
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: you see me. So I started working and two thousand

592
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and seven was a really amazing year for me. I

593
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: was in a couple films, I recurred on a couple shows.

594
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: I was kind of jamming along, and then the strike

595
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: happened and the show I was on got canceled, and

596
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: the you know, everything got canceled, and you know, just

597
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: the work dried up so fast, and obviously I was

598
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: on my way to superstardom. So I had been spending

599
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: all of my money and I would go to crunch.

600
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I would do the what we like to call like

601
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: the model actor hour, the mom model actor hour. So

602
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: I would go to the gym around ten ten thirty,

603
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: take like a noon class, do a little something before then.

604
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: And this was when I had gotten fit, and everything

605
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: got dried up, and I was like, I think I

606
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: have to get like a real job, again. I thought

607
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: I was never gonna have to wait another table again.

608
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: And this amazing woman named Amanda Grandinetti was like, oh wow, honey,

609
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: NEI a job. Great, you start at Chateau tomorrow. You

610
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: can be on the catering staff. So I went from

611
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: multiple movies and multiple jobs on TV to waiting tables

612
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: again at the Chateaumarmont. Actually I didn't even wait tables.

613
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: I was doing special events. So people that I had

614
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 1: worked with I was now handing them all durs at

615
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: the chateaum Armont for events. And this was two thousand

616
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: and eight. This is like pure facts and late two

617
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, while strike was still going on and

618
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: everything was just sort of crumbling. I didn't have an agent,

619
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: my manager lived in New York City. I didn't have

620
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: a ton of opportunity here. I was at Crunch. Isn't

621
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: that funny? Still Crunch. I was going to take a

622
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: spin class. It was a Sunday morning, Sunday at eleven

623
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: and the manager of the gym, who obviously I knew

624
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: because I was always hanging around the gym, ran in

625
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: and said, I don't know where the teacher is. And

626
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: I was like, excuse me, He's like, can you teach

627
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: this class right now? And I was like, what are

628
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: you talking about? And he's like, well, you know he's

629
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: not here. Can do you know? Can you he teaches

630
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: class right now? He's like, you've been here a million times,

631
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: you can totally teach us. Come on a shell, like

632
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: because of course everybody knew me at the gym for

633
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: obvious reasons my mouth and my friend was like, and

634
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: this guy was old school, he used CDs. He still

635
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: used CDs. And my friend was like, uh, Todd gave

636
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: me the CD because I said I liked a few

637
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: songs from the playlists two weeks ago. I have it

638
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: in my car. I'm gonna go get it. And that

639
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: is how I became a cycling teacher.

640
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: What is serendipitous occasion?

641
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: Right?

642
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: Did you feel during that class like you did it well?

643
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: Or did you feel like God help everyone that is

644
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: on a bike in front of me right now?

645
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: Do you want the truth?

646
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: Or like, oh hell yeah, it.

647
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: Felt like performing again. It felt like there was an

648
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: emergency and I had to improv. And really the reason

649
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: that I said yes is it was a Sunday and

650
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Speaker 1: I looked around and there were like my friends who

651
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Speaker 1: actually didn't only have model after time and it was

652
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Speaker 1: their only opportunity for a workout. Now they were stuck,

653
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Speaker 1: you know, doing something that maybe they don't like to do,

654
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Speaker 1: like you're most people were in group fitness. Really like

655
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Speaker 1: that element and like the way that that feels. Going

656
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Speaker 1: back to finding something that you love and thinking of

657
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Speaker 1: these people not having the opportunity to do their workout

658
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Speaker 1: and like just get up there and do it. I'm like, well,

659
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Speaker 1: I know how to do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, look at you getting called to serve again though,

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Speaker 2: like look at this for you, Like you're thinking to yourself,

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Speaker 2: well if I don't do this too will and I

663
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Speaker 2: need to help And this is just this is just

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Speaker 2: who you are.

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Speaker 1: I believe that I was put here to serve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm here, like literally a living, breathing person

667
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Speaker 1: on this planet. And whether it's serving as an activist,

668
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: serving as a cycling teacher, serving as an actor, I

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Speaker 1: believe that when it's boiled down like that's why I'm.

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Speaker 2: Here, I'm sitting here nodding my head. I'm just being

671
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Speaker 2: very helpful on a podcast.

672
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Speaker 1: And any time that it comes to that, anytime it's

673
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Speaker 1: time for that, it's me, and it's like that's and

674
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Speaker 1: I feel so incredibly lucky. I know blessed tends to

675
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Speaker 1: be a buzzword for certain people, not for me. I

676
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Speaker 1: think that we're blessed to breathe there. I think we're

677
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Speaker 1: blessed to be here. And I think the dogma of

678
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Speaker 1: religion has tinked at that word for some people. But

679
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Speaker 1: I think that it means so much more than just

680
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, religion and quotation marks. I think

681
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Speaker 1: that blessed means opportunity. I think that I am so

682
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Speaker 1: incredibly blessed to know that that's why I'm here. That's

683
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Speaker 1: my default setting, and I think that we all have one,

684
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Speaker 1: and the sooner that you can just ken and listen

685
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Speaker 1: to your life and accept that that's why you're here.

686
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Speaker 1: Whatever that reason is, fill in the blank. But I'm

687
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Speaker 1: here to serve and that's where I live and that's

688
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Speaker 1: what I do. So when the opportunity arises to do that,

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Speaker 1: it's just what I do. It makes me feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm contributing to this planet in a positive way and

691
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Speaker 1: just contributing.

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Speaker 2: Taking a break from today's episode to talk to you

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Speaker 2: You teach this impromptu cycling class and suddenly the the

720
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Speaker 2: skies have opened and you hear the bells, and you

721
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Speaker 2: say to yourself, Wow, I should stop working at Chateau Marmont.

722
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Speaker 1: I didn't leave. I kept working there and I started

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Speaker 1: teaching there. And honestly that I started teaching at Equinox

724
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Speaker 1: because it was like a really nice gym that I

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Speaker 1: could not afford. So I started teaching there so I

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Speaker 1: could go there. And it just became such a It

727
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: just became this back and forth. I would literally teach.

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Speaker 1: The time slot they gave me to start at Equinox

729
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Speaker 1: was on Sunday, a Saturday, at four yikes. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like a great time to teach. And I would

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Speaker 1: literally teach my class jump in the shower change and

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Speaker 1: go straight to chattau Marmont. So I started living this

733
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Speaker 1: and this was the thing that was so weird. I

734
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Speaker 1: was super It sucked not having this entire career that

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Speaker 1: you really felt like you were just at the precipice

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Speaker 1: of taking off. But then I just felt like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm still doing stuff that I liked to do. Like

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Speaker 1: I liked working at Shutta Ormat. I know it's like

739
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Speaker 1: not the cool thing to say, but like I liked

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Speaker 1: working there. I enjoyed it. I got to see some

741
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Speaker 1: really crazy stuff. That's another podcast. I got to see

742
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Speaker 1: some really cool stuff and meet some really amazing people.

743
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Speaker 1: And can I tell you the amount of actors who

744
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Speaker 1: I knew were people who knew that I was an

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Speaker 1: actor and was like, hey, I did this too, or

746
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Speaker 1: this happened to me too, and like it's okay, and

747
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: it's okay to like, because I was like should I

748
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: be more embarrassed? Like should I be embarrassed that like

749
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Speaker 1: I literally have like real credits on IMDb and like

750
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Speaker 1: doing all the things, and like now I am waiting

751
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Speaker 1: on people that I literally was in films with and

752
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I just wasn't because life is not predictable, and if

753
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: you just follow the yellow brick road of your life

754
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: and the opportunities that show up for you and your life,

755
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Speaker 1: it's really hard to be quote unquote embarrassed about it.

756
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: I felt like I thought I had a cool job,

757
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: and sure did it mean that? Like I wasn't, you know,

758
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: getting as many opportunities as an actor. Absolutely, but I

759
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: had opportunity, and I was always taught to be grateful

760
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Speaker 1: for opportunity. And it doesn't matter what your job is.

761
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Speaker 1: As long as you like it and you're doing it well,

762
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: then there's nothing to complain about. Like if I had

763
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Speaker 1: to be a postman, then I would try to be

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Speaker 1: the best postman that I had to be. If I

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Speaker 1: had to go back to waiting tables and I would

766
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Speaker 1: wait tables to I miss it sometimes I actually really

767
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: do miss it. I love the energy of it, meeting

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Speaker 1: new people, getting the opportunity to know people. I think

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Speaker 1: that as long as you are doing what you like

770
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Speaker 1: to do, there is no reason whatsoever to be embarrassed

771
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Speaker 1: by it. Enjoy it, be grateful for it, and do

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Speaker 1: it to the best of your freaking ability.

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Speaker 2: I feel that, I mean I briefly and we've talked

774
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: about this before, but briefly taught Spin and I think

775
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: about it sporadically and how much fun that was. And

776
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: I'd love to ask you maybe what some of your

777
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: favorite parts of your role at Cyclehouse have been. But

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Speaker 2: for me, I mean without a doubt, and people can

779
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: hear it in your voice, with your optimism and excitement

780
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: and the way that you speak, and it's so motivational.

781
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: Like I loved that, like I loved the opportunity to

782
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: help hype other people up. And so I think that's

783
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: why the podcast is such a great outlet for me

784
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: because I feel sometimes like I'm back in the Spin

785
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: studio and so often what you say when you have

786
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Speaker 2: the opportunity to be in front of a group of people,

787
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Speaker 2: that's really in actuality what you need to hear too.

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Speaker 1: Oh, one hundred percent. One hundred percent, Because when you're

789
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Speaker 1: in that room, you're and you're helping people get to

790
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: the next level of their lives. You have to be motivated.

791
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Speaker 1: You have to give them a reason to keep going,

792
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: to keep pushing to do all of those things. That's

793
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: your gig, Like, that's your job, and how lucky are

794
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: we that we get to lift people up? We get

795
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: to tell people that no matter what life is throwing

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Speaker 1: at them, that they have the capabilities to handle it,

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00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: and that whether it's good or whether it's bad, it's

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00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: all in how we get to interpret it. And I

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00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: feel so grateful that that time at Shata Marman As

800
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Speaker 1: opposed to like being embarrassed or trying to hide from people,

801
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: or seeing a cast charactor or someone that I was

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00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: in a film with, I'd be like, Yeah, I work here,

803
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: and this is what's happening for me right now. Life

804
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: is not always gonna be the easy stuff. Even now,

805
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: like teaching classes on Zoom, I reach out to people

806
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: all the time. They have no way of finding me.

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00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: How are they gonna know I'm here? And you have

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00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: every right as a human being on this planet to

809
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: be here, and whatever incarnation that happens to show up

810
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: for whether it's COVID, whether it's a you know, a

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00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: writer strike, whether it's a tough time in your life,

812
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: whether you got fired or you got rehired, or any

813
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: of those things, you have the right to be here.

814
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: You have the right to go through tough times, and

815
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Speaker 1: you have the right to work through them, so you

816
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: don't have to be ashamed of that, because every single

817
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: person on this earth has had hard times, has gone

818
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: through situations that maybe they thought they weren't going to

819
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: make it out of, or maybe situations that they thought

820
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: were going to break them, or all of those things.

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Speaker 1: And whether you're struggling with it from a mental health perspective,

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00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: a physical perspective, or just an emotional perspective, the fact

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Speaker 1: that you continue to show up and you are here,

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Speaker 1: you are one of the brave ones. So like, don't

825
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: be afraid of that, don't be ashamed of that. You

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Speaker 1: get to be here, You get to show up regardless

827
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Speaker 1: of the condition that you're in, and you get to

828
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Speaker 1: express yourself fully as whoever you are, and you do

829
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Speaker 1: not have to apologize for it.

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Speaker 2: I just love the term get to Yeah, Like I

831
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Speaker 2: love it. I love it, and I love how you

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Speaker 2: use it, and I love that that is such a

833
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: glorious and beautiful takeaway from trouble and what we might

834
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Speaker 2: perceive sometimes as failure and missteps. It's like, I know

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Speaker 2: it sucks sometimes when things don't go how you want

836
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Speaker 2: them to go, but like to have that beautiful opportunity

837
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Speaker 2: to make that mistake, to learn from that mistake, like,

838
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: how awesome is that?

839
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Speaker 1: Right? And nobody learns from their successes. We learn from

840
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: our failures. You don't look back and go, hey, when

841
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: I won that award, I learned that I'm dope. No,

842
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: you say, when you know what I mean? When the

843
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: rubber meets the road and we face challenges in life

844
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Speaker 1: and we overcome them or we find a way through them,

845
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: those are the moments that make us better. They make

846
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Speaker 1: us stronger, and the most important thing, they make us

847
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Speaker 1: more empathetic.

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Speaker 3: This is, without a doubt, the most hyped episode of

849
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Speaker 3: Hurdle ever.

850
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Speaker 2: Like, I hope.

851
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Speaker 3: That just the DMS blow up, because if you are

852
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 3: listening to this right now and you're forty five minutes

853
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 3: in and you aren't like stoked on life, then I'm

854
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: not sure if you.

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Speaker 1: Have a pulse tragedy and the triumph. Baby, we all

856
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: have a choice, you have. There's that great saying. I

857
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: think Matthew McConaughey said it, and it stuck with me

858
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: so hard, which is so funny because Matthew McConaughey, it's

859
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: so random. And I remember I was watching this thing

860
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: and he talked about and this is so me, and

861
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: he said that I think it was his mother once said,

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00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, when he wake up in the morning be

863
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: in a bad mood. His mother said to him, you

864
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: can see the dust on the table or the flowers

865
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: in the vase. You get to choose. You get to

866
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: choose in your life whether or not you were choosing

867
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: to see the dust in the table or the flowers

868
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: in the vase. Period end of story. And every day

869
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: that I wake up again, going back to activism and

870
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: this and that and the other. I gave a speech

871
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: in the beginning of this. It would have it was

872
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: like the day after what would have been Breonna Taylor's

873
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: twenty seventh birthday, and it was so crazy. Emily I

874
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: heard this voice because yes, I talked to myself and

875
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: I try to receive every message that comes, and it

876
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: kept saying, don't write a speech. And I was like, Okay, well,

877
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: maybe just a couple hundred people come to this thing.

878
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: It won't be a big deal. I go to Pan

879
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: Pacific Park and she's like obviously, you know, She's like,

880
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: you'll probably talk you know, I want you there by twelve,

881
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: probably start around twelve thirty, twelve forty five. Maybe you'll

882
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: talk around one outn't know, and I was like, Okay.

883
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: So we get to Pan Pacific Park and there's maybe

884
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: like three or four hundred people and I was like,

885
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: oh wow, there's more people than I thought. I am

886
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: not kidding you, Emily. In the next forty five minutes,

887
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: thousands of people showed up. Thousands.

888
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

889
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, because Babe, I

890
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: did not write it. And I'll tell you I couldn't.

891
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: Like the night where I was like, why haven't I

892
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: wrote wrote a speech? And there was this you know

893
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: that book You are a badass?

894
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they have.

895
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: She had a calendar, right, she has a calendar with

896
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: like days of the week. And I put it literally

897
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: right next to where I brushed my teeth, becau. It's

898
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: just a nice little reminder after my timid and meditation

899
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: to m calm every day. And then like I just

900
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: riped that off. I'm brushing my teeth and read the

901
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: announcement for the day and I woke up like am

902
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: I crazy? Like why haven't I written a speech? Why

903
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: haven't I done that? Like who knows who's gonna be there?

904
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: And how many people? I mean people? Soific purse like

905
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: smack deb in the middle West, Hollywood, whatever, whatever. And

906
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I ripped it off for the day

907
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: and do you know what it said? Tell me you

908
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: can do anything?

909
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Yo? Isn't that so scary slash creepy slash insane? Like

910
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: these books that we might have that have like daily

911
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: affirmations literally with dates, and you open the page and

912
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: it says exactly what you need to hear. It blows

913
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: my mind every single time.

914
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: As I like to say, my friends always laugh. But

915
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: it blew my wig back like it legitimately like knocked

916
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: my socks off. And I literally was like, fine, Brionna,

917
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: clearly you want to channel through me, so you tell

918
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 1: me what to say this and that. And then when

919
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: I got up there and I'm telling you, Emily, people

920
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: as far as the eye could see got messages from friends.

921
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: I had no idea that we're there.

922
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: I watched part of it, uh on Instagram and I

923
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: shared that as well. I mean, what you have to

924
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: say was so powerful.

925
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: But that was her right. So this life that we

926
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: get to lead, think about like Brionna Taylor, and think

927
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 1: about I'm assuming both of us are over twenty seven,

928
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: not because you look at girl, but because you have

929
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: your shit together.

930
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: Girl, we over twenty seven.

931
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 1: And all I could when I got up there, all

932
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: I could like hear channel or whatever was going on,

933
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: just like you know, getting that message was think about

934
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: if your life had ended at twenty seven.

935
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

936
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Think about all the things that wouldn't have happened for

937
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: you if you had literally stopped literally twenty six, because

938
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: she didn't make it to twenty seven. Yeah, and that

939
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: was what my speech was about. And to the people

940
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: over twenty seven, you owe it to the people under

941
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven to make sure that you're doing everything that

942
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: you can to make this world a better place for them, right,

943
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: we owe it. That's what's happening. I think in this

944
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: moment that we're living in right now, is everyone is

945
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: realizing that the world for black people as a whole.

946
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: And as I like to say all the time, I

947
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: am not the representative for the entire black race. I

948
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: am one black woman who knows some things and have

949
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: some degrees in this subject matter. But what I'm saying

950
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: is from my perspective, and someone else's perspective could be

951
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: completely different, and that's okay too. But we are living

952
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: in a moment where people are starting to respect each

953
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: other's experience, and if we can as a whole understand,

954
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: not sympathize, empathize with the black experience, get inside of

955
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: it and do something about it. So all of these

956
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: babies under the age of twenty six, twenty seven, we

957
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: have a duty to make that world better for them.

958
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not tired. Because my niece is seven

959
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: days old, and my other niece is thirteen years old,

960
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: and my nephew is ten years old, and my other

961
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: niece is twelve years old and my nephew is fifteen.

962
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: We owe it to these kids and to this world

963
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: that we're gonna leave behind, to straighten out all the

964
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: bullshit that we have handed down. We have a responsibility to.

965
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: So if I have to help somebody wake up, if

966
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: I have to wake up myself some more, and no,

967
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm not tired because that is my journey. Because I

968
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: want this world for my niece, for my hopefully unborn children,

969
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: for your hopefully unborn children, or if you don't want

970
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: that for your niece, for your nephew, for anybody that

971
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: you want to pass this world onto, I don't get

972
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: to be tired because I want this world and this

973
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: life to be better, easier, stronger, more loving, and more

974
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: empathetic for.

975
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: The them, And that makes you a special, special human.

976
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I had just Sims from Peloton on the

977
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: show not too long ago, and she said something that

978
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: I thought was really special as well, which is that

979
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: there's not just one black experience. Yes, you know, like

980
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: you can learn from so many different people in all

981
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: from all walks of life. And just because you have

982
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: taken the opportunity to chat with one person who may

983
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: happen to be black, doesn't mean that you won't learn

984
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: a completely different thing or get a completely different perspective

985
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: from another.

986
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. The black experience is not singular. That

987
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: would be like saying all white people have the same

988
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: experience growing up.

989
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: Your passion is contagious.

990
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank you. And the sooner that we start

991
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: acknowledging that and understanding that this experience is one that

992
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: we are all having in that experience is life, then

993
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: the sooner we can try to take care of each other,

994
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: make sure that everybody has the opportunity in life to

995
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: have the life that they want. And again we come

996
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: full circle. Whether it's a podcast or an athlete, a writer,

997
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: an actor, an activist or a freaking cycling teacher, that

998
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: we all have a fair shot to have the opportunities

999
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: in life that we want.

1000
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: When do you become a full on, full cycling teacher.

1001
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: I became a full on cycling teacher. Really, it felt

1002
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: like that day I got on the schedule. The next

1003
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: day they sent me to training, and then the ball

1004
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: started rolling. I started teaching at Equinox and Crunch, and

1005
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: then one day a couple of people came up to

1006
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: me and said that they wanted to start an indoor

1007
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: cycling studio. And remember in LA that didn't exist. Soul

1008
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 1: type had been around for years. There are very few.

1009
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: There are a couple of specialty places, but it wasn't

1010
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: a thing the way that it is now. This is

1011
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: circa twenty eleven. And I was like, yeah, no, Like,

1012
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: I have a kettlebell certification, I teach a lot of classes.

1013
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: I teach kettlebell, and I love teaching spin, but why

1014
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: would somebody go somewhere just like, LA was definitely way

1015
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: behind New York in that aspect, because you could go

1016
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: to your gym in LA and get a fantastic spin

1017
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: teacher and get a fantastic sculpt teacher. And get a

1018
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: fantastic kickboxing teacher. But you know, people started realizing, well,

1019
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: this level of expertise and the way that I want

1020
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: to do it, I need just this space to really

1021
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: delve into the art form, right, And I said no.

1022
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: And again it goes back to Chateau Marmont. I was

1023
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: walking to work and this gentleman that ran Barmarmant's name

1024
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: was a lawn. He ran into me on the street

1025
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: and he's like, how are you doing? Said, I'm good,

1026
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm just a little confused. This place wants to open

1027
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: a cycling studio and he's like, oh, were they just cycling?

1028
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, it's like I'm French, I don't work out,

1029
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: which was hilarious to me. And he said, but it

1030
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: seems to me it's like everybody that comes in here,

1031
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, takes your class. Because you know, I have

1032
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: a lot of celebrity clients. We're taking my class back

1033
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: in the day at you know, at crunch at equin Odds.

1034
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: He said, well, and this was a very valuable lesson.

1035
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: I learned two really important things that think changed life.

1036
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: And he said to me, what's the worst that could

1037
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: happen if you try and it doesn't work out, I'm

1038
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: sure Equinox would have you back. And I was like, Oh,

1039
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: I can try and if it doesn't work out, it's okay.

1040
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: I can pivot. And I realized I had done that

1041
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: before when my acting career hit the stall button right

1042
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: when you know, when I had to show up and

1043
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: teach this class. Suddenly we can pivot. You can do anything.

1044
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: And I think if COVID has taught us anything good,

1045
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: it's that. I think a lot of people are discovering

1046
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: that they can pivot. There are other things that you

1047
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: can do and other things that you're good at, and

1048
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: the world doesn't end at blank Again, You're not just

1049
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: defined by one thing. And so I said, you know what,

1050
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a try. So you gave

1051
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: it a try, and then cycle House and.

1052
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: Then cycle House. So how long have you?

1053
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: Uh? When was that we opened the doors on October eighth,

1054
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: twenty and eleven.

1055
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: Wow, so it's been a minute.

1056
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: It's been a minute now, Yep. What would you.

1057
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: Say has been one of the most transformational parts of

1058
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: your time with cycle House?

1059
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: Hmmm? I think that I learned more than anything at

1060
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: cycle House that if you want to be a leader,

1061
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: and you have to work with other people. Compromise is

1062
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 1: incredibly important. Putting your ego aside and listening and finding

1063
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: a way to make things work, and finding a way

1064
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: to compromise with other people to in order to produce

1065
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: the best product that you possibly can is not only

1066
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: unbelievably necessary, but the only way that you can produce

1067
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: an exemplary product. Humility, listening. The other thing that I

1068
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: think that I learned is to know your strength and

1069
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: manage your weakness, and to actually put that into practice.

1070
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: I know that my strength is human connection, talking to people,

1071
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: helping people, being empathetic, and trying to understand people. My

1072
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: weakness is I don't know how to make a spreadsheet.

1073
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: I really can barely work a computer. I need help

1074
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: in that arena, and that it's okay for me to

1075
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: need help. There's no use in me sitting in front

1076
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: of a computer for six hours trying to thread a

1077
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: needle with if I don't know what I'm doing, and

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Speaker 1: find someone to help me threat this needle so that

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Speaker 1: I can focus on the things that I know that

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Speaker 1: I can excel at. So I think knowing your strength

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Speaker 1: and managing your weakness, because managing your weakness is very

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Speaker 1: different from I think we spend a lot of time

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00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: trying to hide our weaknesses. I mean, like, no, no, I'm

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00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: actually good at that. I can figure that out. I'm

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00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: good at this. No, have the humility to say like

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00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: I need help with this. Even for this talk with

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Speaker 1: you today, I had to call someone much younger than

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: me to take a look at this computer and figure

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Speaker 1: things out.

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Speaker 2: Man, do I appreciate you. I also think that that's

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: like such a valuable piece of advice and such a

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00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: beautiful takeaway is just not being upset or angry when

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: you figure out what a weakness may be and owning

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00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: that like that takes humility and vulnerability.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and it's not easy. It's not easy sometimes

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Speaker 1: there are other times when it comes to there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of other things where I still have to struggle

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Speaker 1: to manage my weakness that just happens to be a

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Speaker 1: colossal weakness. So I know I can help, but I'm

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Speaker 1: constantly working on that of saying like if this is

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Speaker 1: asking for help for me, And I think culturally for

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Speaker 1: black women in general, is something that we as a group.

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Speaker 1: And again, like I say, I'm speaking for myself and

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Speaker 1: like other women that I've spoken to of color. But

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: asking for help has been one of the most electrifying

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Speaker 1: journeys of my life, meaning learning how to ask for

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00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: help and discovering God. It's overwhelmed when you do ask

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00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: for help, the amount of people that run to you

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00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: and the opportunity like when because I always thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just me, like I like to help people whatever,

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00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: But when I think about the help that I've received

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Speaker 1: in my life, I am overwhelmed. Because I'll tell you

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00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: the truth, Emily, when Psychlehoust got closed down on March fifteenth,

1114
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: I was rocked, absolutely rocked because I felt like, Okay again,

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00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: I found this thing where I have stability like I

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00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: did with my career again and I don't know if

1117
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: it was like unsolved damage from like that when my

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00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: acting career kind of imploded on me and then like

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00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: this imploded on me because my job is literally being

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Speaker 1: in front of a bunch of people, like that's how

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Speaker 1: I pay my bills, And the amount of clients that

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01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: reached out to me and called me and was like, well,

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Speaker 1: here's the deal, like can you train outside or let's

1124
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: train virtually? What can we do? How can we help you?

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Speaker 1: And I think that the second that you admit that

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Speaker 1: you need help, you will be stunned by the amount

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Speaker 1: of grace that is available to you in this world.

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Speaker 1: And for that I my level of gratitude through this

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Speaker 1: entire situation. Those same people that showed up for class,

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Speaker 1: that showed up in cycle house open, not people that

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01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: were there from day one that were the first people

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Speaker 1: to call me and be like, can you train virtually?

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: What can we do? How can I help? What do

1134
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: you need me to do? And I think when you

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01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: allow yourself to be vulnerable, which is something that I

1136
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: have struggled with mightily in my life, when you open

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01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: yourself up to that support and you see the goodness

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: that exists in the world, there is no way that

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01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: we as a people cannot tackle this awful scourge in

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01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: our country and across the world called racism, called systematic racism,

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Speaker 1: any of those things. If we bring it down to

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01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: brass tax and it's individuals helping individuals, there's nothing that

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01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: we can't do if we remember that that we remember

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Speaker 1: who we really are.

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Speaker 2: What advice do you have to offer to someone that

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01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: hears you saying that it is so so wonderful to

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: be able to accept help, but then also can sympathize

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Speaker 2: and relate to this idea that it's hard to do it.

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Speaker 2: What would you say to them?

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Speaker 1: I would say, you have to breathe, you have to stop,

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01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: and you have to put and you have to separate

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Speaker 1: your ego from you being a human being. I think

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 1: a lot of times an inability to accept or ask

1154
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: for help is driven by our ego. I am supposed

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01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: to be fill in the blank, whatever that is for you.

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01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: I think that if we can take a moment and

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01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: put all of that aside, and put our shame aside,

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01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: put our put our shame for having weaknesses aside, and

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01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: you can really just I think honestly, meditation has really

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: helped me on this journey slowing down, listening, not being

1161
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: so Remember we said before and you and I both

1162
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: were so sort of you know, all about driving forward,

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: problem solving all of those things. If you stop and

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01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: breathe and say, might not know the answer, and start

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: with yourself, start with yourself, start giving yourself that little

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Speaker 1: bit of grace. Okay, I only like when you're talking

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01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: about earlier point two miles in, I need to just

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01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: go get a coffee and go for a walk. If

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Speaker 1: you can start giving yourself those moments of grace inside

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: of your heart, inside of your mind, and look inside

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Speaker 1: of yourself and find those moments where you can do

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Speaker 1: that for yourself, then, because before I used to see

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Speaker 1: that as being a victim. Right before I was able

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01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that I needed help and acknowledge my vulnerability,

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Speaker 1: I truthfully used to see like, oh, don't be a victim, Tochelle,

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: Or when other people would ask for help, if it

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: was maybe something I didn't want to do, or any

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01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: of those kinds of things. It was about. It's about

1179
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: saying no, you're not a victim. Someone that is able

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: to ask for help and accept help and can also

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01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: give help. You are becoming the victor every Think about

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01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: how you feel when you give back. Like I'm on

1183
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: the bard of the Hollywood Food cool issuit. We serve

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Speaker 1: a hot meal to probably over two to three hundred

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01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: people every single night, seven days a week. And think

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01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: about all those times I'm sure everybody has volunteered at

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: their time, maybe it was for a neighbor or this,

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01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: even if it was just a gesture holding a door

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01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: open for someone and them saying thank you, think about

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01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: how you felt in that moment. Think about how that

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: moment sustained you more than any sort of material good could.

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Speaker 1: And I think we build on those moments. So we

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Speaker 1: start with gratitude, we start with giving back, and we

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Speaker 1: start assigning that grace to ourselves. Somebody once said to

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Speaker 1: me when I was like down on myself for saying this,

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Speaker 1: or how would you? How would you talk if it

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: were me? And Wow, that opened my eyes. The grace

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Speaker 1: that you give the people in your life that you love,

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Speaker 1: are you giving yourself that same grace? Because if your

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Speaker 1: best if your best friend came in with those same

1201
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: feelings and shared them with you, what would they say?

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Speaker 1: And you have to be your own best friend. And

1203
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: when you're your own best friend, and when you're honest

1204
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: with yourself and who you really are and what you

1205
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: really want and knowing that it's okay, if your best

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01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: friend came to you and said I need help, wouldn't

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: you move heaven and earth to help them? You have

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01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: to start seeing yourself as your own best friend. And

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Speaker 1: once I started trying to do that, what would I

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Speaker 1: say if my best friend walked in and said this,

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: or my best friend said I needed help? Would I

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01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 1: think that they were, you know, a loser or a

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01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: victim or this absolutely free not And as soon as

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: I started trying to think of myself and respecting myself

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01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: in that way, I was able to be a better sister,

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01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: a better friend, a better neighbor, a better lover, a

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: better best friend, a better aunt, better all of those things.

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Speaker 1: The sooner I allowed myself some grace.

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Speaker 2: When people come to your social media page, it's always

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Speaker 2: interesting because like we direct them to like have an

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01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: impression of us right off the bat right. It's like

1222
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: what you put in that Instagram bio and they see activists, actor,

1223
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 2: cro cycle house. When you look in the mirror, though,

1224
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 2: what is it that you see looking back at you?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Wow, I see I see someone who still has

1226
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: so much more to give. I see someone with a

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01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: capacity for love that is deeper than the ocean. And

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Speaker 1: I see someone who wants to continue you to have

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: this human experience and grow and learn and serve and shine.

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Speaker 2: What's next for you?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Next for me is going back to my acting career.

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01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: Next for me is finding a way to expand on

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01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: the people that I'm able to touch from a fitness

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: perspective and from their food, embody, goals in a bigger

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01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: way than just like this small community. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: find a way to take what I have to give

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: in that capacity to motivate people to be healthier and

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: better and stronger to the next level. So I think

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: that it's those two things, and I see someone that

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: is helping in her small way people learn and empathize

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: with each other in a bigger, stronger, better, more empathetic way.

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01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: And take that little tiny bit and take her little

1243
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: circle of the world and help change it and make

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: it better.

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Speaker 2: I think it's safe to say that hurdle moments happen constantly,

1246
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: like we're constantly dealing with hard stuff. But over the

1247
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 2: last hour and change, you've talked about a couple of

1248
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: specific experiences that seem to be truly ones that rocked

1249
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: your world. You have an opportunity to offer yourself a

1250
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: piece of advice looking back at those hurdle moments. What

1251
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 2: is it that you tell yourself?

1252
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: Stay open to all opportunities that life represents, Stay humble

1253
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: because your humility often reveals opportunity, and always stay grateful

1254
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: and loving.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you, I appreciate you.

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01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm so glad we did this I know, I listened

1257
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: to Hurdle, and I think that it's amazing. And really,

1258
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: I watch you. I watch your story every day, I

1259
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: really do, and I love seeing how far you run

1260
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: and the things that you do. And you know, as

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Speaker 1: I think that so many times people think of coaches

1262
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: as not needing someone to watch and to look at

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01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: and to look up to. So I am grateful that

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Speaker 1: like you're one of those people for me.

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Speaker 2: I think what you said about a coaches needing coaches

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01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 2: and also like looking to others for inspiration, I had

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Speaker 2: and I'll be like really honest about this a moment

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01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 2: earlier this year where I had to stop and ask

1269
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 2: myself who am I looking to for inspiration? Because I

1270
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: think that sometimes when you're so go, go go, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you can sympathize with this, it's like you

1272
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 2: don't take the time to take a step back and

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01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 2: like find that for yourself because you're so worried about

1274
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: your output, right yeah, So I think what you have

1275
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: to say is just it's so valuable. And I also,

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01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 2: I mean, thank you so much for what for the

1277
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: kind words that you have to say to me. I

1278
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: mean I feel the same way about you and That's

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01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: why I think that this made for such excellent content,

1280
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 2: because I'm just sitting here continuously nodding my head at

1281
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: everything you have to say, and you came into my

1282
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 2: life for a reason. And I think that after listening

1283
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 2: to today's episode, that a lot of the hurdlers will

1284
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: feel the same way, and that they'll continue to look

1285
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: to you for motivation, inspiration, and so so so much more. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: please take a moment and leave a quick review by

1287
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: clicking to the link with the description to this episode.

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01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: We all face multiple hurdles in life, and I want

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01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: to hear about yours. Reach Out to me at Emily

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Speaker 2: at Hurdle dot us, connect with the podcast on Instagram

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Speaker 2: and Twitter at Hurdle Podcast. Michelle, how do they find you?

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Speaker 2: Give them the details.

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Speaker 1: At Michelle, it's inn ic che l l e. So

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Speaker 1: it's just at Michelle and Instagram is going to be

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Speaker 1: the quickest way to connect with me. Have the website

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Speaker 1: Michelle Hines dot com, but Instace is really the easiest way.

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Speaker 2: You are like a modern day Oprah at Michelle. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it, That's all I am. At Emily Abodi another

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Speaker 2: hurdle conquered. Catch you guys, next time.