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Speaker 1: Everybody is Bill Courtney with an army and normal folks.

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Speaker 1: And we continue now a part two of our conversation

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Speaker 1: with doctor Ronda Smith's class. Right after these brief messages

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Speaker 1: from our general sponsors. I another wants to teach survivors

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Speaker 1: of domestic violence how to sew, which is valuable given

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Speaker 1: there's not many seamstresshes anymore. Is that person here? No,

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Speaker 1: tell me about that, Rhonda.

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Speaker 2: So that's miss shit and she, oh my gosh. Her

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Speaker 2: business plan was like so good. She it was about

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Speaker 2: teaching people how to sew and how to upcycle like

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Speaker 2: classes during the week for just individuals, anybody in the

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Speaker 3: To learn how to sew.

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Speaker 2: And that was her way of raising money for the organization,

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Speaker 2: was to charge like twenty dollars a week or whatever

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Speaker 2: how to that might be in the abuse shelters so

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Speaker 2: I think another part of her business was like a

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Speaker 1: It was very very creative. A resource center that offers

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Speaker 1: low costs to no cost mental health services and place

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Speaker 1: where folks can use computer because there's no place around

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Speaker 1: it in Hashburg. Is that you missus Flitner? Yes, that

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Speaker 4: And I used to have like people that were interns

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Speaker 4: was just venning to them basically no therapy services because

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Speaker 4: understand what they have going on, like fools, scarcities, going

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Speaker 4: we do have, they're wait lists are like five years long.

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Speaker 4: your insurance doesn't cover it. So I just really feel like,

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Speaker 1: Well, what have you done about it? Girl?

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Speaker 2: I actually have had this.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Smith can tell you that I've had this dream

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Speaker 1: And had this Purt Mississippi, I love that. That is awesome.

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Speaker 1: I wish you the best to walk Ronda. When you

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope that I have encouraged them to ignore

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Speaker 2: And so I think I've said that in class a lot.

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Speaker 1: Why social work? Anybody? Why? So?

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Speaker 3: I am from a very very small town in Alabama,

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Speaker 1: just give me a shot. She held them accountable, and

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Speaker 1: five miles no matter what. If they can learn that

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Speaker 1: homeless anymore. And this kid running from her own problems

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Speaker 1: for seventy eight hundred previously homeless people now having jobs

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Speaker 1: at all as a result of running here. That's and

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Speaker 1: Mallem's story. They're just countless stories, over and over. The

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Speaker 1: last one I'll tell you is child bedlessness. Whoever knew

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Speaker 1: Put it on Facebook that I ain't anything else to

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Speaker 1: do with it, and immediately it goes and he finds

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Speaker 1: out all of these people in his hometown that have

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Speaker 1: give them away. It makes it makes them feel great,

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Speaker 1: and he starts Sleeping Heavenly Peace with the motto no

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Speaker 1: kid in my town sleeps on the floor. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: think that children should put on their school clothes and

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Speaker 1: then use them as their mattress every day. This thing

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Speaker 1: they've built two hundred and seventy thousand beds virture in

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Speaker 1: the United States that don't have beds. But the coolest

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Speaker 1: thing is our episode is airing and a preacher who

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Speaker 1: supports an orphanage in Haiti. Now he a preacher in

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Speaker 1: heard this? And the guy that runs orphans in Haiti said, oh,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, this is amazing. He starts crying. We ended

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Speaker 1: up meeting him. We bring him on to talk about

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Speaker 1: his orphanage in Haiti. And his orphanage in Haiti is

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Speaker 1: on a few places that has running water in a

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Speaker 1: wood shop and because they teach children, and so now

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Speaker 1: this orphanage in Haiti with their wood shop has joined

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Speaker 1: Sleep in Heavenly Peace, and they are now making beds.

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Speaker 1: That orphanage in Haiti is making beds for non to

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Speaker 1: orphan children in Haiti who don't have us as a

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Speaker 1: result to the Norman. So I could keep going. But

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Speaker 1: there's story after story after story that show that passion

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Speaker 1: and unwillingness to succumb to fear of failure, empathy and

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Speaker 1: a heart changes lives. And there's thousands of those stories

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Speaker 1: across our country, and we don't hear about them enough.

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Speaker 1: And our goal is to bring those stories to you, guys,

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Speaker 1: not only to entertain you, but hopefully inspire you to

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Speaker 1: not be afraid to start your garden in Hattisburg for

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Speaker 1: those who need fresh produce, or to start your facility

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Speaker 1: where a kid who doesn't have a computer can have

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Speaker 1: a computer to go to, or to start therapy with horses,

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Speaker 1: where all of the other amazing ideas you guys have

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Speaker 1: come up with, and Doctor Smiths off to actually act

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Speaker 1: on them, and to not only go to work and

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Speaker 1: social work and do the good work you do, but

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Speaker 1: also to change your community and your culture with the

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Speaker 1: very bright ideas that y'all have, be passionate about it,

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Speaker 1: and don't be afraid to fail, because at fear of

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Speaker 1: failure would keep any of those things forever happening, and

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Speaker 1: that would be a shame anybody else, Doctor Smith, do

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Speaker 1: you want to finish this up?

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Speaker 2: I just want to tell everyone how extremely proud I guess.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I pulled them enough, how extremely

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Speaker 2: proud I am of them for all the things that

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Speaker 2: they are doing and are going to do in their

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Speaker 2: careers going forward. I know Amy graduated last year and

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Speaker 2: so she's been doing for a year now, so she's

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Speaker 2: got a head start. Will he didn't get a chance

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Speaker 2: to tell but he's going on to law school. Wow,

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Speaker 2: so he wants to change things on a bigger level.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's guys. I'm glad we had the time together.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, just talking to y'all in

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Speaker 1: have this chat encourages me. And I think doctor Smith

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Speaker 1: put it put it best. Sure not. We've got a

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Speaker 1: good group of young folks coming up that are working hard.

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Speaker 1: And if we could ignore all this stupid stuff out

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Speaker 1: of TC in New York and social media and everything else,

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Speaker 1: and and remember our humanity, I think we're all going

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Speaker 1: to be fine. Thanks for involving an army and normal

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Speaker 1: folks and your education, your lives and uh now, thanks

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Speaker 1: for being a part of it with us. I don't

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Speaker 1: know when this episode is gonna gonna go, but I

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Speaker 1: hope you'll share it with all your friends and and

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Speaker 1: help us grow this uh, this group of people who

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Speaker 1: hopefully will become a movement in our country to continue

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Speaker 1: to better our culture in our society. So Doctor Smith

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Speaker 1: and former students and young people getting out there and

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Speaker 1: making a difference. I really appreciate you joining me today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having us.

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Speaker 1: Thank thank you, bye everybody, bye, thank you, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us this week. If doctor Ronda Smith

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Speaker 1: has inspired you in general, or better yet, to take

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Speaker 1: action by using the podcast with your service club or classroom,

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Speaker 1: sharing it with teachers and schools that you know, or

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Speaker 1: something else entirely, please let me know. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear about it. If you write me, I will respond

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Speaker 1: impact we have. I'm Bill Courtney. Until next time, do

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