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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show kicks off right now. We've got a lot

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Speaker 2: to talk to you about the latest on the retail

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Speaker 2: theft phenomenon across the country as it pertains to Target,

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Speaker 2: a store that my wife spends a lot of time at.

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Speaker 2: Played is Missus Travis like Target because carry loves time.

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Speaker 1: I think every woman likes Target. Although I understand that

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Speaker 1: Target is now super woke as well, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's something else that we got to we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to address that too. But also in New York

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Speaker 2: City specifically the retail theft organize retail theft as they're

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Speaker 2: calling it now, meeting the systematic, you know, a theft

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Speaker 2: in order to make a lot of money. In some cases,

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Speaker 2: people are stealing valuable stuff and they're doing a dozens

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Speaker 2: and dozens, if not hundreds of times. You can do

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Speaker 2: the math. Mayor Air Adams is saying that they're going

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Speaker 2: to have to crack down on that. New York City

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Speaker 2: is considering what to do with all the migrants, and

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Speaker 2: now at about sixty thousand they may be housing them

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Speaker 2: out at Rykers Island, the prison complex there, finding them

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Speaker 2: in some of the overflow space. I guess you could

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Speaker 2: call it. That's something we will certainly discuss. Also, we

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Speaker 2: have at two pm Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron will

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Speaker 2: be with us. He just won the Republican nomination for

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Speaker 2: governor there important race in Clay's neighboring state of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: We also have Josh Hawley, Senator Hawley joining us at

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Speaker 2: the third hour. It's got a new book out on

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Speaker 2: being a man. You know. It reminds me of the

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Speaker 2: Ron Swanson title be a Man for his handbook for

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Speaker 2: his boy scouts. Just be a man was all he

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Speaker 2: told them. So we'll talk to you, Josh Holly about

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Speaker 2: being a man. Fatherhood I believe is actually the specific

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Speaker 2: approach that he takes. Oh, I'm sorry, Josh, is tomorrow

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Speaker 2: all right? We've got a great guest tomorrow. Then that's

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Speaker 2: fine too, my bad team. We've got something else though,

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Speaker 2: that I want to get into right away. I will

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Speaker 2: just give you a slew of headlines. CBS News Ron

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Speaker 2: DeSantis to launch presidential campaign next week CNN. DeSantis expected

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Speaker 2: to enter twenty twenty four presidential race. New York Post,

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Speaker 2: DeSantis set to enter twenty twenty four, et cetera. Go

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Speaker 2: down the line, you will see that everybody right now

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Speaker 2: is expecting, in the media at least, that the governor

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Speaker 2: of Florida is going to finally, after a lot of

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Speaker 2: speculation and anticipation, announce an official presidential bid next week.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to dive into that here momentarily with Clay.

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Speaker 2: I'd also note that there is an ad that is

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Speaker 2: circulating right now of Governor Youngkin of Virginia that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are putting to as the kind of

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Speaker 2: thing you'd release if you were trying to run for president.

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Speaker 2: We might place on that audio for you. But first, Clay,

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Speaker 2: it seems like the time is nigh, or maybe the

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Speaker 2: time is here or whatever. DeSantis is going to be

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Speaker 2: an official candidate as of next week, according to the media.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think almost immediately Buck the DeSantis campaign when

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Speaker 1: it launches, all you need to focus on is Iowa. Iowa, Iowa.

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Speaker 1: You know this, Buck. Trump has only been to Iowa

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Speaker 1: one time since he announced that he was running six

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Speaker 1: months ago for the twenty twenty four presidency. And we

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Speaker 1: know last week he canceled because of tornado weather things

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Speaker 1: there as well. So, and we also know that in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Trump lost to Ted Cruz in the Iowa caucuses.

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Speaker 1: I think that the entire DeSantis campaign is essentially going

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Speaker 1: And I also understand all of this discussion about national

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Speaker 1: the national polls and Trump is certainly rolling. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, if DeSantis were to win in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire is not a particularly strong state for Trump,

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Speaker 1: it never really has been. I think it could be

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Speaker 1: a strong state for DeSantis or someone else. And so

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Speaker 1: the momentum and everything. We still don't even know the

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Speaker 1: Trump is not going to win the Iowa caucus. Now,

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Speaker 1: To put it in context, Ted Cruz only had two

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Speaker 1: you can catch fire in Iowa. It's a very retail

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Speaker 1: Maybe we got some Iowa voters out there who won

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Speaker 2: A lot of folks will remember that Ted Cruz won

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Speaker 2: Iowa in twenty sixteen and then Trump won in New

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Speaker 2: Iowa is not a guarantee of anything. Didn't Howard Dean

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Speaker 2: win Iowa back in the day too, of the screen theme, right?

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Speaker 1: Right about back in the back in the day. That

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just thinking about you know, people that at

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we don't know anything about the momentum because

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Speaker 2: Iowa is many months away. But now we're finally going

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Speaker 2: to be in a place where there will be a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That was Howard Dean. A Republican primary underway.

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Speaker 2: That is is the this is the battle that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people were anticipating all along. I am in

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Speaker 2: favor of primaries instead of coronations. I think that it

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Speaker 2: makes sense for candidates to have to make their case

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Speaker 2: better candidate for the general election. It's a little bit

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Speaker 2: like training for the big fight. You know, even if

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Speaker 2: you don't want to go into a big match rusty.

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Speaker 2: and you, as an individual candidate, go through that learning process,

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Speaker 2: the gauntlet of opposition that you'll face in a primary.

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Speaker 2: It also shows people how an individual handles the stress

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Speaker 2: think that's interesting. This is also this was a little

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Speaker 2: surprising because you know, Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia.

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Speaker 2: really the only political good news we needed something after

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Speaker 2: young Cain put out this ad today and Clay let's

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Speaker 2: what do you think this is all about? Play seven?

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Speaker 3: It's pretty overwhelming to contemplate the future of America. It's

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Speaker 3: such an honor to be here with proud Americans who

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Speaker 3: carry on President Reagan's cherished legacy. He brought peace by

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Speaker 3: projecting strengths at a time when it's easy for us

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Speaker 2: Do you guys get the idea. I just he's he's

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Speaker 2: just think it's funny he's put out this ad. We're

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all of that stuff he's talking about

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Speaker 2: Reagan and America. I mean, this looks like a presidential announcement,

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Speaker 2: ad doesn't it. Well, what else could it be?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: I thought what Youngkin would run because to familiarize everybody

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Speaker 1: And again this is one of those think strategically, we

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Speaker 1: I would continue to hammer home is I want whatever

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Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is this, if Glenn

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Speaker 1: ten points, and I'm not sure that Glenn Youngkin could

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Speaker 1: every possible way and guarantees that Republicans would win in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, which is why Buck I've said, look

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Speaker 1: I think puts it in the red camp if Glenn

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Speaker 2: I would just want to tell you now, now let's

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Speaker 2: Clay speaking about Glenn Youngin, so you could send him

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this. I think, first off, the argument

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Speaker 2: That is the argument that's being made on that side.

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Speaker 2: DeSantis is different because he comes in more as a

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Speaker 2: by some Republicans, including Trump in twenty twenty was the issue, right,

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Speaker 2: That's there are other issues, but that was the problem.

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Speaker 2: As the numbers go, but we'll see. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: Thank Clay and Travis a great show. We got to

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Speaker 5: But I believe that Glen Younkin is keeping his name

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Speaker 1: Yep, thank you for the call. I think that's an

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Speaker 7: I like Ron, I don't like the people around him,

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Speaker 5: Is that Has that been done?

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Speaker 1: Is the answer Buck right. They have passed a law

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Speaker 9: Kimmy Younkin one thousand percent over. I literally fangirled when

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Speaker 1: All right, Kimmy, I love this, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: either as the president or the vice president, Republicans would

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Speaker 1: that next level caliber of talent and would running on

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Speaker 1: a national level hurt him in Virginia for instance? How

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Speaker 1: do you see that play now?

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Speaker 8: I don't.

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Speaker 9: I think you would be a fantastic front runner as

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Speaker 9: presidential candidate, not VP, because he's got the leadership qualities

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Speaker 9: doesn't have any baggage. He hasn't been running his mouth,

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Speaker 9: so he doesn't have any sound bites that are going

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Speaker 9: to come back to haunt him like DeSantis would. And

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Speaker 9: if DeSantis gets the nod or Trump gets the nod,

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Speaker 9: then Glenn would not be a good VP because he

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Speaker 9: wouldn't be able to shine like he does. So I

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Speaker 9: think he absolutely would be able to pull Virginia because

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Speaker 9: he appeals so much to again the soccer moms and

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Speaker 9: the independence and the people that just want normalcy. He

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Speaker 9: is a normal guy that knows how to get things done.

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Speaker 9: So I think he could easily win Virginia. But as

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Speaker 9: a VP candidate, if that's where he is relegated, I

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Speaker 9: don't think he would run. It would be a waste

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Speaker 9: of his talent.

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Speaker 2: Keimmy, we really appreciate we weren't even we didn't even

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Speaker 2: really put out a call for young kids supporters. That

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Speaker 2: we got one, and we appreciate that. That's great. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know it's hey, Clay, you know, never never underestimate

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Speaker 2: a guy that is six six, worth a few hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars and that soccer moms think is handsome, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean? This guy, he could he could

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Speaker 2: surprise them.

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Speaker 1: For me, I mean, Kimmy, I almost got the sense

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Speaker 1: that we needed a like put a fan on her

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Speaker 1: over how hot and bothered she was. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: but sir, what she's saying, Look, I'm not. And we're

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Speaker 1: just gonna talk through all these different candidates and all

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Speaker 1: of their strengths and all of their weaknesses. So, look,

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Speaker 1: do I still think Donald Trump's going to be the nominee?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Do I think that Glenn Youngkins has a realistic chance

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Speaker 2: of beating him? Probably not. But that's what a primary

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Speaker 2: is for, right. We got to see and I just

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Speaker 2: think it's interesting to play it out because one thing

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Speaker 2: that might come up in the primary is Trump has

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Speaker 2: to show the Republican voters, the Republican base that he

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Speaker 2: would definitely win an Arizona and Georgia, and am gonna

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Speaker 2: have a better ground game in Pennsylvania this time because

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Speaker 2: you look at somebody like Youngkin, and I think I

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Speaker 2: think he wins those McCain Arizona voters, if you will,

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Speaker 2: that stayed home in twenty twenty two, or even went

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Speaker 2: Democrat and stayed home in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Look, it is so fast. I think Trump is gonna

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Speaker 1: lose Iowa because and this is a long range prediction

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Speaker 1: six but that's not.

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Speaker 2: But I don't even think that's Do you think that's

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Speaker 2: that big a deal. I think he might not even

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Speaker 2: he might he lost Iowa to Ted Cruz, that'll be

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Speaker 2: the narrative right away. I don't think he cares that much.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it would change because right now Trump's

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Speaker 1: campaign is in some way premised on the inevitability of

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Speaker 1: his victory. And if you lose Iowa, then it changes.

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Speaker 1: Remember it took forever to find out who actually won

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Speaker 1: Iowa in sixteen.

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Speaker 2: It was a weird It was a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a weird deal. But I think that they I think

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Speaker 2: that the narrative of Trump is, you know, we lost

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Speaker 2: Iowa before, we might lose it again.

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Speaker 1: Who cares if he loses Iowa. I don't think Trump.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. Let me just put it this way.

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to be wildly strong in lots of states.

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Speaker 1: Right my home state of Tennessee. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: to Daniel Cameron, who just won Kentucky, which was endorsed

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Speaker 1: to a large degree by Trump that Daniel Cameron campaign

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Speaker 1: to be the next Republican governor. I think that Iowa

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Speaker 1: and New Hampshire are among the worst states that the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign could have to start.

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Speaker 2: So now here's what I would say. The point you're

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Speaker 2: making about Iowa, you add New Hampshire into the mix,

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Speaker 2: and now you've got a momentum shift and a perception shift. Right,

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Speaker 2: So I would if you're talking those two, I think

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Speaker 2: Trump is gonna struggle to win both. So if DeSantis

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Speaker 2: picks off, let's just say those two, you've got real

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Speaker 2: momentum shift, and then it's this all hands on deck

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Speaker 2: moment for Trump world. Right. If he loses Iowa. That's

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Speaker 2: obviously not good, but I think they figure we can

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Speaker 2: we can run the map the way we did before.

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Speaker 2: That would be my my sense of of how his

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Speaker 2: team is viewing it, because he's not He's not strong

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Speaker 2: right now. Based on the numbers in Iowa. I know

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Speaker 2: people in Tennessee listing may think that's crazy. People in

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Speaker 2: Texas may think that's crazy. But an Iowa, Trump's numbers

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Speaker 2: aren't as good as he'd like them to be.

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Speaker 1: Iowa and New Hampshire, I think are both going to

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Speaker 1: be struggle states for Trump, and I just think that

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Speaker 1: the narrative changes quickly based on how that could go.

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Speaker 2: We need some we gotta get some super Trumper action here,

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Speaker 2: all right. Eight hundred two A two two eight a two.

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Speaker 2: We're just taking the calls as they come in. But

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Speaker 2: if you're angry and you think that today there was

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Speaker 2: too much for one Saturday, they're just yell at Clay.

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Speaker 2: He'll relay it to me. He likes to get the

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Speaker 2: angry game.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm used to getting yelled at all

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Speaker 1: the time because of sports Buck. I've told you Desantas

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to be our version of Auburn versus

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Speaker 1: Alabama of Ohio state versus Michigan. Every single time you

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Speaker 1: say one thing about one team, the other side is like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, you hate our side. Look No, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to vote and work as hard for Trump or

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Speaker 1: DeSantis or Glenn Youngkin or U or Nicki Haley or

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Speaker 1: will be out on the trail. Remember I was speaking

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Speaker 1: for Herschel Walker at this end is I know.

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Speaker 2: You were if they tried real hard for Herschel didn't

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Speaker 2: work out, but we appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I will speak at the rallies. I will travel all

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Speaker 1: over the country wherever people want me to go to

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Speaker 1: help to the extent that I can. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be nasty. And we just got a break

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We have

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Speaker 1: got a lot of you who want to weigh in

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Speaker 1: as we have discussed the news that DeSantis is purportedly

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Speaker 1: going to announce next week for the Republican presidential contention process,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of you want to weigh in. Also,

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Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin appears to be testing the waters Sue in Damascus, Maryland.

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Speaker 1: You're all in for Trump and you don't care about

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Speaker 1: anybody else what you got for us.

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Speaker 4: Now that's true. Trump is my guy, but DeSantis is

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Speaker 4: absolutely not my guy, and I would never vote for him.

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Speaker 4: I would never, never, never. When he was in the Congress,

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Speaker 4: he co sponsored a bill that would make Puerto Rico

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Speaker 4: a state, and he even appealed to the Democrats the

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Speaker 4: leftists so much is to not call us a republic,

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Speaker 4: but to call us a democracy, and that Puerto Ricans

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Speaker 4: were second class citizens. Now we should never ever ever

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Speaker 4: have a state in our Union that has anything other

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Speaker 4: than English as its official language. I don't trust the Stantis.

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Speaker 4: I think he's tied in with the Paul Ryan globalists.

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Speaker 4: And the only person, I'm an independent, only person that

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Speaker 4: I would vote for is Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: So would you say Sue, I'm not an expert on

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rican statehood or Bill, so I'll take you being

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Speaker 1: correct on that. But the bigger question for me, I think, Sue,

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Speaker 1: is so you're saying, if any if DeSantis were the

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Speaker 1: nominee for president, you would stay home and not vote.

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Speaker 4: Probably unless he had a good vice president. Because I

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Speaker 4: held my nose and voted for McCain only because of

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Speaker 4: Sarah Palin. I couldn't stand McCain. I never liked McCain.

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Speaker 4: In fact, he should have been court martialed. But that's

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Speaker 4: a story for another show. But to make to call

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Speaker 4: us a democracy and not a republic, to use it's

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Speaker 4: the Puerto Rico Admission Act of twenty eighteen to tell

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Speaker 4: and he was only there with Democrats and Rhinos, And

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Speaker 4: to call us a democracy and not a republic, and

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Speaker 4: to admit a state into the Union that has Spanish.

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Speaker 2: I said, right, okay, we.

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Speaker 1: Back a buck. I don't know about you. My knowledge

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Speaker 1: of Puerto Rico state I actually, because I lived in

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Speaker 1: the Virgin Islands spent a lot of time in Puerto Rico,

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Speaker 1: I would consider myself to be probably in the top

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Speaker 1: twenty percent most knowledgeable about Puerto Rico in the country.

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Speaker 1: I am not an expert in Puerto Rico statehood. I

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Speaker 1: do know Buck that Orlando has one of the largest

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Speaker 1: populations of Puerto Ricans of anywhere in the United States,

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Speaker 1: and that as a result, if you are a Florida politician,

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Speaker 1: Rican community. That's what I would put out there in general,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know that specifically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, so a lot of Puerto Ricans after

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Speaker 2: But over a million Puerto Ricans in the state of Florida, yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is more than are in New York, New York,

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Speaker 2: where I grew up with Puerto Rican d parade. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everyone thinks of the massive population in Puerto Rican in

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Speaker 2: New York of Puerto Ricans, and so that's yeah, Florida

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Speaker 2: has more than more than a million right now. So

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Speaker 2: I don't I have to find We'll check this down

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Speaker 2: or track this down rather about the bill. I don't

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Speaker 2: know about this bill from twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be very dispositive as

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Speaker 1: to who wins the Republican nomination. If if, if the

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Speaker 1: statehood of Puerto Rico is the is the primary battleground

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Speaker 1: for the Republican nomination, I Sue might make her decision

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Speaker 1: there Buck, but I don't think there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of sues.

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Speaker 2: There we go. Let's get to Rudy in Racine? Am

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Speaker 2: I saying that?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin?

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Speaker 6: It's Racine.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty close. I mean, I mean you say Racine,

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Speaker 2: I say Racine. Okay, go there?

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Speaker 1: And we were number one in Racine until until Buck fifteen.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dy, what you.

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Speaker 9: One with me?

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Speaker 6: You've done a great job taking over.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, buddy, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad the last lady brought up Paul Ryan that

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Speaker 6: it was one of my topics. I didn't really want

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Speaker 6: to touch on that, but the point I wanted to

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Speaker 6: make was how quickly Wisconsin went from actually turning red

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Speaker 6: under Scott Walker to going pull blown blue. And now

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Speaker 6: we have a Supreme Court that is liberal. Yeah, we

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Speaker 6: have a governor is just way off the deep end

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Speaker 6: supported the riots in Kenosha, when Kenosha was burning just

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Speaker 6: south of where I'm sitting. And I want to warn

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Speaker 6: Floridians Ron desandis terrific governor, But I am all in

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Speaker 6: for Trump. Uh Santas. I just see this, hannas. He

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Speaker 6: can go into the primary, he can possibly win the primary,

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Speaker 6: he can become president, but Florida can turn blue awful quick.

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Speaker 2: So you're worried about about what was about the snap

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Speaker 2: back in Florida. I think that's interesting. We get to

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Speaker 2: spend more time on that. But for me, the most

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Speaker 2: compelling argument that I tend to hear at this stage

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Speaker 2: about the Trump Trump vi DeSantis world is DeSantis is

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Speaker 2: a great governor, but being governor isn't being president. And

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Speaker 2: Trump knows that, knows that deal backwards and forward. So

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Speaker 2: I understand people going to talk about that a lot.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into it more day round