WEBVTT - Is there a worst way to die?

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast. Josh and Chuck. Here a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>staff writers at how stuff works dot Com. How's it coming, Shuff,

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<v Speaker 1>It's going good, Josh, so Chuck. I hate to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this, but there are people who are setting themselves

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<v Speaker 1>on fire all over India right now. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 1>anything about this right now? Possibly very lately. By right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean lately. No, I didn't know that. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming something of a widespread trend, actually terribly. UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>read about one guy who's a tea vendor. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just sells tea like you know, you buy a

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<v Speaker 1>hot dog right on the streets of New or This

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<v Speaker 1>guy just sells tea. Um. And apparently he fell in

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<v Speaker 1>the bad graces of a local representative of the local government. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy was kind of being abused by this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the the government official. Um, and in retaliation, he doused

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<v Speaker 1>himself in kerosene and set himself on fire in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the guy's house. That'll show him, yeah, pretty much. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the guy lived, but he has burns like over

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<v Speaker 1>his body. And at this point you kind of wonder

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<v Speaker 1>that all right, well, which is worse? You know? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like a terrible way to go. And and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, uh kind of reminded me that of

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<v Speaker 1>an article i'd written into called is there a Worst

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<v Speaker 1>Way to Die? When I was I love this article.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, uh, it was really interesting to write.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to um, a funeral director, I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>a an E. R. Doctor, and I also spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who is the director of the Ernest beck

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<v Speaker 1>R Foundation. We'll talk about that in a minute. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no there's no quantifiable way to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely a worse way to die, and here it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all subjective and even worse, there's um, there weren't

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<v Speaker 1>any you know, nationally recognized poles out there. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>contacted Gallop to find out if they'd ever asked that question. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I I wanted to find out what the data was

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<v Speaker 1>if they'd ever taken that poll, and they said that

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<v Speaker 1>they never had. I found one that was pretty close,

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<v Speaker 1>a gallop pole that was about UM, fear of dying,

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<v Speaker 1>not the worst way to die, and um. Astoundingly only

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<v Speaker 1>of the people polled said that they were afraid to die. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a really logical follow up question would

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<v Speaker 1>have would have been, how often do you actually think

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<v Speaker 1>about your own death? Maybe we should have conducted our

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<v Speaker 1>own pole. Maybe we will, we will, We'll get it

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<v Speaker 1>up on the site in no time instead of quiz

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<v Speaker 1>corner fear of death corner. Um. But while I was

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<v Speaker 1>researching it, I came across the impromptu poles about the

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<v Speaker 1>worst way to die. Immolation is usually ranks up pretty high. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, so burning to death not good, not

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<v Speaker 1>good at all. I would say drowning is probably up

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<v Speaker 1>there too. Drowning is up there too. Um. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>usually uh, they're usually interchangeable at the top. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>what's your worst way to die? Boy? Uh? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I could say the worst method of death,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that anything where I died alone would

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<v Speaker 1>be the worst way. That is very funny that you

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<v Speaker 1>bring that up, because I was doing extra research for

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast and there was a British pole um from

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<v Speaker 1>April this past April, and uh, the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>respondents said that their worst death was a dying alone. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Isaac ky Is, God rest his soul. He just

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<v Speaker 1>passed a few days ago and I think they found

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<v Speaker 1>him in his home jam with a treadmill going and

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<v Speaker 1>something is mundane said. It just seems like the most

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<v Speaker 1>depressing way to go. You know, you're lying there, your

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<v Speaker 1>treadmill still alive right next to you, and there you are,

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<v Speaker 1>right and and surrounded by no one. Right. Or Elvis Presley,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, I have Elvis on the brain after

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<v Speaker 1>writing about Graceland and uh, you know Elvis famously died

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<v Speaker 1>in his bathroom reading a book and no one found him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for hours, So he was just laying there

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<v Speaker 1>in his bathroom. Yeah, so this the second worst aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of death that people came up with was not enough

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<v Speaker 1>access to pain relief, right, which is a big thing

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<v Speaker 1>to like if you basically there there's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>way to answer this question is by changing the wording. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>is there the best way to die? I think you

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<v Speaker 1>would find across the board dying um in your sleep

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be the best, most highly rated way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't want to feel pain now, people don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be afraid or alone. Now. My worst death kind

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<v Speaker 1>of combines all these except for the pain part. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think pain would be involved. Um plane crash, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually I'm flying to Malta a week or so

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<v Speaker 1>from now, and yeah, I'm not looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the plane ride. Uh. In My big problem with

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<v Speaker 1>with dying in a plane crash is if you're at

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand feet or something like that, it doesn't happen instantaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>A good minute or two headed straight to Earth at

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<v Speaker 1>like eight hundred miles an hour. But even that takes

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, maybe two, maybe three, depending on how high

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<v Speaker 1>up you are. And buddy, you're totally aware of what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on the whole time, right, You've got a solid

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<v Speaker 1>minute to three minutes to think about you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to die, right, And the panic and the

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<v Speaker 1>hysteria just I would say with everyone on the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not If you're by yourself, it would be bad enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have hundreds of strangers that you were probably

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<v Speaker 1>annoyed with just moments earlier for one reason or another,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're all going through this. So at least you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to die alone. But I'll tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>if George Gallup asked the people on a plane that

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<v Speaker 1>was going down if they fear death, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the percentages would skyrocket that had to be hastily performed. Pole. Yeah, exactly. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, basically, check our our our approach to death,

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<v Speaker 1>our fear of death, um, and some theorist size uh

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<v Speaker 1>is a result of a kind of sanitizing of death.

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<v Speaker 1>Of UM, basically, our our desire to not look death

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<v Speaker 1>in the face, not think about death. UM. Becker Becker

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<v Speaker 1>and the anatology A lot of Ernest Becker's views his

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<v Speaker 1>his whole field was called the psychology of death, right

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<v Speaker 1>and UM. In Becker's opinion, UH, culture, every aspect of culture,

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<v Speaker 1>from our lazy boy recliners, to Nascar, to whiskey to

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<v Speaker 1>guitar hero to the climbing the corporate ladder, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>it all serves to distract us from thinking about our

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<v Speaker 1>own mortality. So culture, as has been created to distract

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<v Speaker 1>us so we can throw ourselves into it. Um. That's

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<v Speaker 1>Becker stands. The problem is, is we In Becker's opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>he he died many, many years ago, UM at age

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine. Sadly, I wonder if he saw that one coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'll bet you if there was

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<v Speaker 1>ever a human who is walking the earth who was

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<v Speaker 1>cool with it, or it was Becker and he died

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<v Speaker 1>of cancer too, So I mean he knew it was coming. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But in Becker's opinion, we we know that death is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We're distracting ourselves. So the unconscious mind UH has to

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<v Speaker 1>find an outlet somewhere, and usually that outlet is violence

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<v Speaker 1>or aggression or war. So in Becker's opinion, if we'd

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<v Speaker 1>all just go ahead and accept the fact that we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to die someday and we don't know when

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen or how it's gonna happen, we'd all

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot better off. We'd all basically chill, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, along those same lines of how we

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<v Speaker 1>UH insulate ourselves from death as how, there's not as

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<v Speaker 1>many open casket funerals these days. And I know back

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the olden times, as they say, well

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<v Speaker 1>as recent is the nineteenth century. Yeah, people would sit

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<v Speaker 1>up with the dead. I know. That's a Southern tradition

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<v Speaker 1>where you would literally have the body in your house

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever they died, and uh, you know the family

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<v Speaker 1>is just hanging out, yeah, for for days on it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the points of that was to socialized

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<v Speaker 1>children to death public viewings, right, Yeah. And plus another

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of it was, um, usually it wasn't the home

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<v Speaker 1>because most people died in the home because modern medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just kind of went, you know, good luck

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<v Speaker 1>with that pal see see in hell, that kind of thing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, nowadays, you know, in nineteen hundred, the average

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<v Speaker 1>life expectancy was, um, it was like forty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and eight, it's seventies seven, creeping up

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<v Speaker 1>on seventy eight. If it's not, they're already. So that

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<v Speaker 1>extra you know, twenty almost thirty years has really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of um strung us out right. We are really interested

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<v Speaker 1>in in squeezing every last minute out of it, even

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<v Speaker 1>sadly beyond the time when the quality of life has diminished.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are he's saying, Well, I'm saying, we have

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<v Speaker 1>all these machines to keep us alive, to breathe for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that they're out there. Um, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have thrown ourselves even further into this denial of death.

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<v Speaker 1>It right, So the very things that keep us alive

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<v Speaker 1>or distracting us from the obvious pretty much and the inevitable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was there was another aspect when you brought

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<v Speaker 1>up nineteenth century that I found really interesting. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a trend. Have you heard a bereavement photography? Uh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was um Like, have you seen the movie The

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<v Speaker 1>Assassination of Jesse James? I have not. Yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>famously a photographed and his casket uh you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole town came out. They had him on a

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<v Speaker 1>block of ice. The whole town came and viewed the

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<v Speaker 1>body and had their picture made with picture made were

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<v Speaker 1>from the South picture had their picture made with the

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<v Speaker 1>body of Jesse James. This is that what you're talking about? That? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's it's it's a photograph of a

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<v Speaker 1>dead person. Um. For usually though it was of a

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<v Speaker 1>loved one, and oftentimes they'd be on a couch sitting

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<v Speaker 1>up looking like they were sleeping or in bed looking

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<v Speaker 1>like they were sleeping. Sometimes their eyes were propped open

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<v Speaker 1>to make it look like they were awake. That's really uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of odd, but it actually still continues today.

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<v Speaker 1>There are there is bereavement photography. Usually it's um used

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<v Speaker 1>by parents whose child was was stillborn or died at

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<v Speaker 1>a very very young age and this will be the

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<v Speaker 1>only photo that they ever have of them. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the United States mainly, Yeah, it's um, it's you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay time, because clearly they're they're getting something

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<v Speaker 1>from it, like I'm sure it poses like it creates

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<v Speaker 1>a sense of catharsis or finality to it. And and

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<v Speaker 1>plus they and say, well, this is what my baby

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<v Speaker 1>looked like is for a short time as he or

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<v Speaker 1>she was on earth, you know, Um, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's very sad, but I imagine that you can get

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<v Speaker 1>something out of it. Who am I to judge exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And and photography in general kind of has since it

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<v Speaker 1>since it was created, has always had kind of this

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<v Speaker 1>fascination with death, like breathment photography or outlaws. Um. Even

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<v Speaker 1>even Pablo Escobar, you know there's that famous photo of

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<v Speaker 1>him all bloated and dead on that rooftop and meta

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<v Speaker 1>ying or a famous photo of Lizzie Borden's father, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of sideways on the couch. Yeah, face

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<v Speaker 1>mashed in And what is it about as humans that

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<v Speaker 1>wish that that photo wasn't so greeny, that you could

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<v Speaker 1>make it out a little more, you know. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time we kind of lets the imagination run. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a sick, sick, twisted species. We're afraid of her

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<v Speaker 1>own death, and yet we love morbid photography of dead people,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least you and I we don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we shouldn't speak for the rest of humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>although you know, I'd say we're fairly typical. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>but back to the photography part. There's, um, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>really cool exhibit uh by a German photographer named Walter Shells, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. He did this series called Life Before Death.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he did was he went and visited people

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<v Speaker 1>who were terminally ill, spent the last you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days of their lives with him, got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>took series of photographs of him, got like the one

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking for, and then arranged to take another photo

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<v Speaker 1>of them right after they died, and he juxtaposed them

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<v Speaker 1>one right next to the other, and there's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>really great spread on the Guardian the Guardians UK site.

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<v Speaker 1>What he find it was it was it uplifting or

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<v Speaker 1>was it depressing? It's very subjective. It's death. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's oddly comforting. Yeah, i'd like to see that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>What's the missiplicity project? You want to tell everybody? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to do with dog cloning, cloning your pets

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<v Speaker 1>you love your dogs like I do, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to clone yours? Do you want to have nine instead

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<v Speaker 1>of three? Well, my dogs are never going to die,

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