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Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with I Heart Radio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: miss suttern name, that was a little delayed. Yes, my love,

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Speaker 1: I'm still getting over my coughing fit from laughing too

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Speaker 1: hard about it, That's what she said comment. So yeah, hey, yes,

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Speaker 1: well you know, we'll say that one. We'll bring that

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Speaker 1: out later. We were talking about the microphone bulges that

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Speaker 1: we both you know, moderate the bulge, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, just you know, we're here almost famous the

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Speaker 1: ogs and I am fresh off the bus. The bus.

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Speaker 1: I just got back from Florida, which I needed it. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm living in the Midwest. I needed a break. I

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Speaker 1: hear you. I just got back from Mexico and then

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Speaker 1: Miami right before that, so I I hear your pain.

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Speaker 1: We had a blizzard. I had the drive I had

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Speaker 1: to drive through on the way. It took some people

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Speaker 1: were usually takes two hours to get to Denver. It

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Speaker 1: took them seven hours. Oh um, Jesus, Yeah, that's not fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're Jesus. There's some weather going on. Guys, there's some

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Speaker 1: weather going on about that. But yeah, we are. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: We had we had the other half of the Jason Mesnick.

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Speaker 1: So now we get to talk to the Jason Mesnick. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the man, the myth, the stars, the man, the myth,

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Speaker 1: the realtor, the lumberjack, the mountain man. Jason. Yeah, Messi Mesnick.

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Speaker 1: We call him the mess. He's actually putting in submitting

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Speaker 1: an offer right as we speak. So we're watching it. Watch.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna send some positive vibes that the offer comes through.

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Speaker 1: Book at Dan, Oh, I want you to close on

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Speaker 1: this house, whatever it is. Jan out, because let's just

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Speaker 1: call him Dano, Dan Dano, the Dano family, the Dano family.

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Speaker 1: So how are you, buddy? Good to have you on.

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Speaker 1: It's good to be Wait was so was molly on? Recently?

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Speaker 1: She didn't tell me? Wait did we not have Molly On?

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Speaker 1: Am I making that up? Did I have my podcast?

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Speaker 1: I think you had her on yours. I'm not sure. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I am so old that I don't even remember who

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Speaker 1: I've had. I am. I am the old gal, the

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Speaker 1: og old gal who doesn't you're the fairy godmother of

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Speaker 1: the bach Serettes. And I am the grandfather of the Bachelor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: with a really old brain. Obviously. Between in between all

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Speaker 1: in my thirties a long time ago, that the young

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Speaker 1: boys used to call me the godfather the young boys.

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Speaker 1: They had not met you yet. I remember you telling

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Speaker 1: me that when we first met Jason, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honestly, buddy, I miss it out there. I

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Speaker 1: missed the PNW, I missed handing. I'm miss being out

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Speaker 1: there and crossing paths every now and then as we did.

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Speaker 1: And but you know, it's funny. I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: you the other day because I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: most recent Bachelor and Zak Showalter I believe it is

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Speaker 1: his name, and I interviewed him. Seemed like a nice guy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really watch the season, so I know there

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Speaker 1: was some tom foolery at the tail end there that

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Speaker 1: this show just I mean, you went through the process,

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Speaker 1: you married someone who was from the show. I get it.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't exactly the ending that was scripted, so to speaks,

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Speaker 1: like anything for love right, and Jason Mesnick's willing to

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Speaker 1: But then I noticed, like recently, when they bring the

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Speaker 1: So my friends call me the bitcheler, which I think

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Speaker 1: the bachelor. This is all never played the whole path,

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Speaker 1: and I even think about my path, like because you know,

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Speaker 1: but Molly was supposed to be the Bachelor. But then yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Melissa had a boyfriend. They went to Jillian, right,

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Speaker 1: what have you guys us sliding doors? Yes, the butterfly effect.

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Speaker 1: people's lives just from that. You're so right. If it

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Speaker 1: I just remember, like when I was going through all that,

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Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. Got it? Got it? So you basically hadn't

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Speaker 1: it's again everybody should know. It's a long time ago

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Speaker 1: a feeling that one of you would have bowed out

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Speaker 1: she does great with prepping houses. Yeah right, Gary, Molly life.

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Speaker 1: me decorate? That's awesome? Yeah, seriously. Yeah. The challenge I think,

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Speaker 1: and then you get home and you talk about it,

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Speaker 1: of alluded to, Like I remember, didn't she moved to

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00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: Seattle and you guys lived separately or no, you had

423
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: a long distance relationship first, right, Yeah? Yeah, like you

424
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: guys fought for your relationship. You didn't. You didn't just

425
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: jump ship and be like, Okay, let's move in together.

426
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: We're having babies tomorrow, you know, like you guys fought

427
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: for your relationship so I play, and you probably had

428
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: to be so. I mean, Jason, I know you probably

429
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot too, but with you had

430
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: to be so careful, you know, with your child and

431
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: to make sure that it was the right thing before

432
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're not necessarily going to be playing

433
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: house on the weekends when you have a young child,

434
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, and you were so you were so mindful

435
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: of that. I think you always put your son first,

436
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: and I was always really respected. I respected that a

437
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: lot because at the time I didn't have kids, but

438
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: I was just like man if I did, and now

439
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: that I I do have them, I could only imagine

440
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: how it had to be that had to be just

441
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: priority number one for you, and I thought it came through.

442
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean it's funny even going through

443
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: that because I think the biggest arguments add with my

444
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: ex wife was like she did not want him a

445
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: part of it anything, right, and I know, what about

446
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: the little bits here and there. Yeah, but like I

447
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: think the hardest, I would say probably the hardest one

448
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: of the hardest things going through that show is they

449
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: really wanted him to be a part of everything. They're like, well,

450
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: if we have a big date in all the girls

451
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: babysit tie And I was like, what do we don't

452
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah? Yeah, can you imagine though, being a

453
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: parent now? No, no, no, I really can't. I can't

454
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: even imagine being a contestant or whatever you want to

455
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: call it, a participant. I literally said the other day,

456
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: I cannot if the show was if the social media

457
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: was what it is now, back then, I don't. I

458
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: couldn't have survived. And Ryan said, you would not have

459
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: made it because I used to look at the message

460
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: boards like and I cannot imagine being skewered like the

461
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: people get skewered. Now, I really really can't. I mean, yeah,

462
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: they were just message boards. For Trista and I and

463
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: I remember I would see I would see like a

464
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: hundred because you make that It's almost like you go

465
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: down this rabbit hole. Right, Everyone's like, don't look at it.

466
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it exist until he told me

467
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: not to look at it. Then I looked at it.

468
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Worst mistake ever. And I'd see like a thousand nice

469
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: things and I'd see one or two bad things, and

470
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: those two things would consume me for days, saying like

471
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I would literally think about it, like what why would

472
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: this person say this? Like that is the meanest thing ever.

473
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: And it was like, I can't even imagine how the

474
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: contestants gone there an hour, like you said, the participants

475
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: whatever they're calling, I would be so in my own

476
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: head I probably just quit. I really wonder how many

477
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: of us would actually say the same thing, you know

478
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: what I mean, if any of us, any of the ogs.

479
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: Jason was at the beginning, right, you were at the

480
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: beginning of social media? Yeah, I mean, you know, people

481
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: were on my MySpace page and I'm not joking, I'm

482
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 1: not joking. I believe it. Oh my god, I had

483
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of just started. Yeah, but who was the guy

484
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: who started my space? Tom Remember the guy that was

485
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: no idea. I remember the guy telling about he was

486
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: like he followed everybody. He was like, yeah, it was

487
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: all literally it was all my space. That is so funny. Yeah. No,

488
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean the way that it is and not just

489
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: social media, but I feel like the way that they

490
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: pin people against each other. Like I always say, and

491
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: I've I've heard this from a lot of different people

492
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: that our season was very innocent and you know, and

493
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: innocent in the way that no one really knew about

494
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: it or people did. I mean, obviously thirty million people

495
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: or whatever watched it, but I think that they were

496
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: still like in it for like the love story. And

497
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: now I feel like maybe a lot of people watch

498
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: it because of the drama, and so that's what they

499
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: have to continue to do is just make things dramatic.

500
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: And I just don't think I I could have handled it.

501
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: I mean all the time, just by which shows are

502
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: on in our house, and I'll give you two awesome examples.

503
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: One is The Housewives of Whatever, Yeah right, right, and

504
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: then secondly, this is new to our family and it's

505
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: going to talk about how bad of a parent I am.

506
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: But show called Dance Moms that Okay, that's me. So

507
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 1: Dance Moms is on all the time now stupid, but

508
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: it's like that drama is what people want to see, yes, right,

509
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I think the love story is like cute after after

510
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: the fact. Yeah right. Yeah. You know one of my friends,

511
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: we were just in a dance competition this weekend, um,

512
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: and one of my friends turns to me and she's like,

513
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: this is what you need to do a show on

514
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Dance Moms. But the one that you're watching, Jason was

515
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: super dramatic and the like director of the studio was

516
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: yelling at all the moms and there was always like

517
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: you know, in fighting whatever. These girls are super talented.

518
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: But I really would love to have some kind of

519
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: show out there where we actually focus on the talent

520
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: of these kids because it really is like amazing to

521
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: see and we like we've pour our lives into these girls.

522
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: So I would love the positive part of that. But

523
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: you're right, like people just want to see the drama,

524
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: like they want to see the fighting. Oh I hate it.

525
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: So I'm new, Like again, I don't pay attention a

526
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: lot to like what's going on in the about the

527
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: world world, but I'm fair to understand that Flice has

528
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: more time on his hands if you want to pitch

529
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: something to him. We might have just brought that up

530
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: because we neither one of us know what's going on,

531
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: but we had just said before before we came on.

532
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, what'd you hear about that? I heard this? Right?

533
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Did you hear? You know? What did you hear? Jason? Yeah?

534
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: You probably know more than us. Well, I only know

535
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: through what Molly Molly said, but like from my understand

536
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: ending is that um, he he could have done better

537
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: about bringing other other ethnicities and other culture into the show.

538
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: That's what got it. But I would say, like again,

539
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm probably get quoted on this somewhere, but it's not

540
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: just like from my experience when I was going to

541
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: be the bachelor, right, I got calls not just from

542
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: him but from ADC to say, the only reason they're

543
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if you're the right guy right

544
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: now is because they've never had a Jewish but not

545
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: even a dad, but a Jewish bachelor, right. And it's

546
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: not like so that's a relation. You mean they were

547
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if they wanted a Jewish bachelor,

548
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: or they were trying to figure out if America as

549
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: a whole would accept somebody who is not of a

550
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: different faith. And I you know, and I had that

551
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: conversation many times with them about you know, different ethnicities

552
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: as well, because it wasn't it was not from from

553
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: what I remember, it was not about Mike Fleiss or

554
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: any of the leaders deciding because they didn't get the

555
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: final decision. It's the corporation now, right, So well it's

556
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: it's not just ABC, it's Warner you know. Yeah, it's

557
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: like who. Yeah, they're just worried about who are they

558
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: going to sell enough ad space depending on who's on

559
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: the show. Oh, I see. So they're like, oh if

560
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: we if we, if we have a Jewish bachelor, will

561
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: our sponsors still sponsor us because they want whatever else

562
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: whatever other religion. It's a piece of that. And they'll say, well, like,

563
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: if less people watch it because he's a Jewish guy,

564
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: therefore we'll have that's terrible And it didn't work like like,

565
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: and I will say in defense, obviously it didn't affect

566
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: you because obviously you were they they made the right choice,

567
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: and they they had you as the bachelor. Well and

568
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: even on top of that, I will argue that like

569
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: Mike Fleis is Jewish, and then Jeff programming was Jewish.

570
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: Like it was just like it was a Jewish LoveFest,

571
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: but you do with any of us, or like the

572
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: fact that whether you like somebody or not, it was

573
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: where could you sell ads with this guy here? Yeah? Yeah,

574
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was focused group. Everything's focused group to death,

575
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, like they cut out like we did have

576
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: like there were funny little things we did with something

577
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: about Judaism, and everything was cut out. Oh really, yeah,

578
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: we're not bad. We're not that bad. We're not that bad.

579
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: Is that what you just said? That bad? Yeah? I'm sure,

580
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: you know. I wonder if if you know, it was

581
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: just like they focused group of everything, right, so oh

582
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: well this work? Oh yeah, it's gonna work. Great, Okay,

583
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: we'll do it. You know. It's almost like it's just

584
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: interesting to me. But well, obviously they made the great choice.

585
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: But I remember the conversations of like different ethnicities, and

586
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: this was not coming from anybody specifically, it was coming

587
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: from these research groups, and like it was like, you

588
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: don't know if America is ready for that? Right? Huh wow, interesting,

589
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: that's just about your account, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah,

590
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: I think it's it's interesting. I feel bad for just

591
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: in general, not just not just Vice, not just Chris Harrison,

592
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: but anyone who gets canceled, you know, Like the cancel

593
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: culture I think is I don't know, I think it's

594
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of out of control, and you know, you have

595
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: to be so careful with what you say and what

596
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: you do because you're worried that you're just gonna be

597
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: completely blackballed from everything and anything, you know. So yeah, yeah,

598
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: it's definitely, it's definitely an interesting time. I actually was

599
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: saying the other day how bad, how bad I feel,

600
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: And I had talked to Zach and I was with Clayton,

601
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: and both of them had gone through this really challenging

602
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: time of being The Bachelor when it's on the when

603
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: its ratings have been declining, and they're they're taking shouldering

604
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: full responsibility in their minds for the for the show,

605
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: you know. And I get that because I mean, I know, Jason,

606
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: I actually talked about this years ago, but I remember saying,

607
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: like half the reason I didn't want to be the

608
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Bachelor when they asked me to be was I was like,

609
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: let's got nowhere to go but down. Yeah, I mean,

610
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: you know, what am I gonna do. I'm like the Titanic.

611
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm like the captain was taking this thing, and you know,

612
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: it was one of those things where now this twenty

613
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: years later, the show still here. I'm like, I guess

614
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: we did all right, Tris, and we kept it a lot,

615
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: but it you know, but it was like I remember

616
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: that time and I remember feeling that pressure, like, oh

617
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: my gosh. And you know, and thankfully my season was

618
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: at that time where we did have a ton of

619
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: you were still and you know, and so it's like

620
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: now this many years later, when it went from twenty

621
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: eight or thirty million to now like two or three million,

622
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: and it's largely because of the social media presence. I

623
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: think the show can be watched a million different ways

624
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: that maybe aren't you know, quantifiable necessarily, but it's like,

625
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, man, those guys who feel so much pressure,

626
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, like they're like, oh, I was the boring

627
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: bachelor everyone. You know, I'm like, what are you talking about?

628
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, like it's a show for twenty years. It's

629
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: like the Simpsons. It's like you can't last forever. But

630
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: hopefully it continues, but you know, and because it will

631
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: but I think there's a lot of pressure on these

632
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: guys too, and they feel like they're just you know

633
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: and reship. Yeah, oh yeah, all of them. I feel like,

634
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: I feel like, now it's got to be so hard

635
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: because you couldn't have ever made a mistake in your

636
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: life ever, you know, because if it's found out, then

637
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: you're going to be canceled. Yeah. And not that these

638
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: people shouldn't have to answer for these mistakes, but I

639
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: just don't think they should go so far as to

640
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: be completely blackballed from everything, do you know what I mean?

641
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: Like I yeah, so you know, write a statement and

642
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: if you feel remorseful about what you did, you know,

643
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: apologize and do better, and you know, make yourself better

644
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: by by actively doing things things that are opposite to

645
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: the mistake that you made, you know, redemption right exactly.

646
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I was just having this conversation with

647
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: my daughter yesterday about and I don't even know why

648
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: we were bringing it up, but about giving people second chances.

649
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: And I told her, I do believe that everyone deserves

650
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: a second chance. We're all human, we make mistakes, and

651
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: if we are remorseful in those mistakes, then the hope

652
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: is that you are redeemed and forgiven, and I just

653
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: I just wish that was that was more a part

654
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: of our culture now instead of focusing on canceling it.

655
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: It's hard, I think, but I just think about it.

656
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: It work all the time too. It's like any successful

657
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: business makes so many mistakes and you learn. Yeah. Yeah,

658
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: And what we're also saying, so we're saying is like,

659
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: of course there are terrible things that people do that

660
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: you some things are not redeemable, right totally. That is

661
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: actually what Blakesley said. She was like, I don't know

662
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: if some things are forgiven. Like like if Ryan ever

663
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: hurt our kids, I don't know that I would like

664
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: physically hurt them, you know, like that would be really

665
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: hard to overcome. Yeah, but you know, I do feel

666
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 1: like they're there are certain things that you know, if

667
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: someone truly is remorseful about um and proves through action

668
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: that they have changed to then I just think about

669
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: it as a parent too, like you want or your

670
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: kids to make mistakes and learn from them. I mean,

671
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: I like, I think about that this is a stupid mistake.

672
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: But like Tye works so hard to be to be

673
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: on the varsity basketball team, right he didn't make it

674
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: his first couple of years, and he made it. And

675
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: then in one of the big games, he made a

676
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: mistake and they lost, right, and I had never seen

677
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: him so upset, like as an eighteen year old. He's

678
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: a big six five yea, God's huge, and I'm like,

679
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: my heart is broken. I'm like, I don't ever want

680
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: him to feel that way. But he, as a young

681
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: guy like bounce back faster than I could have, Like

682
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I would drag me down. But like it was interesting

683
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: to see as a parent, like he made a mistake,

684
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: he learned from his mistake, and now he's moving on. Yeah,

685
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: that's just good parenting. That's that's why I think that's

686
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: really good parenting. I do because I think of that

687
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: all the time, Like, man, I hope I prepare my

688
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: kids properly for moments like that, because they're going to

689
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: experience them, you know. So good for you, guys, Good

690
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: for you and your Molly and Molly and your Axe

691
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: and everyone for the involvement there. To have him be

692
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: able to bounce back like that, I think that's a

693
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: big statement about you guys. Yeah, well maybe that's because

694
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: he's dicherous. He went off to college here soon. I

695
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: was just going to ask, what's happening? Where is he going?

696
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: Has he decided he's going to go to Boise State? Okay,

697
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: too far from basketball? Not for basketball. He wants to

698
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: do his own thing. He's got friends going to kind

699
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: of all the local schools in Washington, California, even Arizona.

700
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: And he's like he hasn't completely he's not a one

701
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: hundred percent in, but he's like, I kind of want

702
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: to do my own thing. And I really the orange man,

703
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: that's the coolest colored football field I've ever beten to

704
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: in my life. The field is bright orange. Yeah, I

705
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: still help you there. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's a

706
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: really cool area too, isn't it blue? Oh there's blue.

707
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: You're right, it's bright blue. But they're blue and orange

708
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: and orange. Yeah, like theos. Yeah, it stands out big time. Yeah.

709
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: I bet that's so fun. And how is Riley doing?

710
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: She is such a little Molly, I mean, yeah, oh

711
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: my god. But you know what I didn't realize is

712
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: that drama with these little ones starts pretty early. I

713
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: was super really early. The girls girls like WHOA totally

714
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: different than Little Boy Daddy Donuts Day is still going strong. Yeah,

715
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: I think we're like eight years into like donuts with

716
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: Daddy every Friday. I love it. I love you need to, um,

717
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: you need to write a book about that, considering you

718
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: just wrote a book about your poopoo face. Yes, yeah,

719
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: the poop pase was well, the poper face was all

720
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: about I will tell you that was Ty's potty training experience.

721
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: So that's really what we've from. And Riley has been

722
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 1: bugging me since she's been aware of that book coming

723
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: out that her and I are going to do. You

724
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: have to. I love that idea. Oh I'm jealous, Like

725
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: I always wanted to write a children's book and I

726
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: just never could come up with the right idea. I

727
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: love it. Thank you for sending me one, even though

728
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: my kids are far out of diapers and minor and diapers. Buddy,

729
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: it's okay, I'll go get it from Barnes and Noble.

730
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: Oh oh, pop, I'll give you one. Po Yeah, you

731
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: know it's funny. I'm actually we're at the point where

732
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: we're just trying to get Grayson to feel comfortable going

733
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: to the bathroom by himself, because you know, like right,

734
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: he's always like Daddy, come on, I have to go

735
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, like you got this, buddy, No, no,

736
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I need you to go with me. And I'm like,

737
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: all right, you know, because in my mind, I'm like,

738
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: you know, I got a late start of being a dad,

739
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna soak it up, man, because sooner than

740
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: later he's probably gonna be like, you know, get out

741
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: of here, Dad, Why do you I'll be like, hey,

742
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? What are you doing here, buddy?

743
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: If I don't need you in here? You know, what

744
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: are you doing? But you're loving it, aren't you? I am, man,

745
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: I love it. I gotta say like, I think I

746
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: think if I would have been at you know, the

747
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: conventional age of having children, which you know, all my

748
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: buddies their kids are in college and you know, going

749
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: to college. But I feel like I may have been.

750
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't think I was prepared. I don't think I

751
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: think I was a little too selfish then, even though

752
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: I thought I was, uh, you know, giving a magnanimous person.

753
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: I think I think it happened at the right time

754
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: for me because I'm at this part in life where

755
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 1: I can go, you know what, I'm not doing that today?

756
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: You guys, go have fun I'm staying right here and

757
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: you know, making sandcastles with my kids, you know, or whatever.

758
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: It's I love. I love being at this phase having

759
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: the kids. I just feel bad that, you know, their

760
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: friends are gonna be like, why is your grandpa on

761
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: a walker as my dad? That's my dad. He's an

762
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: under five. He's still kicking like, let's ups. But yeah,

763
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: Well with Jason, We're so happy for you, I'm saying

764
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: we me and Bob obviously, I'm very happy for you

765
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: guys in your success, love your family. I am very

766
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: excited to see the finished product of the new house.

767
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my gosh, is that all consuming?

768
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Not for me. We had a big conversation yesterday about

769
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: chunky windows because I've never heard I've never heard of

770
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: chunky windows before. But windows are are in right, there's

771
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: just like a structure. The group's going on, so it

772
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: looks like a real house, but the windows in Molly

773
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: is panicking about the chunkiness of them. Okay, interesting chic term.

774
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah it's her term. Oh got it, it's not a

775
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: technical I see. Um. No. I love following her stories

776
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: because you know, building a house is just so much

777
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't know, yeah it is. Yeah. Um

778
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: so anyway, thanks for coming on and having It's always

779
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: fun to hang out. Always great seeing you, buddy. Definitely

780
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: a you know, I will be the Godfather's Godfather that

781
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: maybe you're I'm Godfather too? Oh there you go there

782
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: you yeah, yeah, I have got Father one. That's a

783
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: good one. I like it. I liked both of those movies.

784
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: Got Father three, we don't need it? No, was it

785
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: just was it just named Godfather one and Godfather too?

786
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: Or did they have like titles they try to three? Oh? Yeah,

787
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: there was titles with it. Godfather what's the title? Do

788
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: we know? Okay? Yes? Right? Godfather who? Did have like

789
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: a subtitle? Yeah? I can't remember what it was. Godfather

790
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: three I think was just basically referred to as the

791
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: one that shouldn't have been made? Yes, right of course,

792
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: which I have not seen. But give yeah, I give

793
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Molly and the kids our best and tell Tye we're

794
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: excited for him. And um, I love watching your and

795
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: Riley's don't have choices on Fridays, so keep them common cute, Yes,

796
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: and thanks for joining us on the OG's Buddy you

797
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: got it anytime, guys. All right? By J J. Jason

798
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: Masnick everybody. God, he's a great guy. Man. I love

799
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: that guy. You know, it's funny. I regret when I

800
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: lived in Pacific Northwest, I lived in Seattle for four years.

801
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: We didn't get together a ton, but in the beginning

802
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: it was nice because Jason always made effort to include

803
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: me and stuff, and you know, made me feel welcome

804
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: and uh and I really enjoyed it. You know, I

805
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: just was traveling at that point so much in my

806
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: life that it was bananas. But he was always such

807
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: a nice guy. And we have a lot of friends

808
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: in common that live out there in Seattle, so it

809
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: was always nice to cross paths when we did, and

810
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: you know, just a good dude. Really assaulted the earth guy,

811
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, agreed, agreed. I just loved them. Their family

812
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: is really truly one of my favorites. Yeah, I think

813
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: you're right though. They fought for that. They fought for

814
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: that family. Are these are of all the happiness in

815
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: the world, you know, I mean, honestly, any couple who

816
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: was able to stay together even if they weren't a

817
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: lead on the show, one of the couple people in

818
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: the couple, even if one of them wasn't a lead.

819
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: I think we give them all credit for being you know,

820
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: from the show, because there is not I hate to

821
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: say pressure because I don't feel like Ryan and I

822
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: have ever really felt pressure to stay together. But um,

823
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: there is all, you know, all the judgment and everything

824
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: that comes along with being in the public eye in

825
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: in terms of your relationship. So um, I think I

826
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: one hundred percent include them every single time when it

827
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: comes to success Force society too. So you know, it's

828
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: funny when whenever we were talking to Ashley Ashley Ashley

829
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Ebert Rosenbaum, Yeah, and she had mentioned all the you know,

830
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: the kind of like the eight that she got online

831
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: when they were splitting up. Imagine starting your relationship with that, right,

832
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: So like you're kind of coming into it sort of

833
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: in this situation. That's so it's it's almost I wouldn't

834
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: say it's almost understandable, because it's not understandable at all,

835
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: but it's almost like you can say, oh, wow, I

836
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: guess I get it at the end because people are like,

837
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: why do you let it happen? Type of thing? And yeah,

838
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: you know glasshouses people, they're living glass houses strow stones, right,

839
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: So but it's like for someone to kick start their

840
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: relationship like that. It had to be so challenging. So

841
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: I feel like there's something to be said about that.

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00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: You know, I think you make it through the fire

843
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: and you get to the other side and it's pretty awesome. Yeah, yeah,

844
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: I agree, And I would go so far as to

845
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: say I think they are the couple that probably had

846
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: the most trauma to deal with in the beginning, because

847
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: I think you chose somebody else, right, I don't think

848
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: there's anybody else who chose someone else. And then, um,

849
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, well already didn't already do that? Already did that?

850
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: Thenybody so many do it, but he did ad mid

851
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: season exactly. It wasn't like after the final rows and

852
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: you know all of that. I mean, yes, definitely, Ari

853
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: I think and Lauren have done yeah story, yes, yeah,

854
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: that is a very good Um. But you're right though,

855
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean I think to come through it, anybody to

856
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: come through it, I mean there's a lot of pressure,

857
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: and you know, any relationship in the public eye obviously,

858
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: you know my I got married to an actress and

859
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: it was very much in the public eye. And it

860
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: wasn't from the show, but it was it was still

861
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: felt like a lot of pressure, you know. So, I

862
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: mean it was one of those things where you know,

863
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of nice to have that anonimitie once in

864
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: a while again, and you know, every every now and

865
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: then you know you have it. But I think for

866
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: those two, I think they you know, they were trial

867
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: by fire for sure, so to make it through it.

868
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for them, and I'm glad he was

869
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: on the show, and I'm excited that maybe I can

870
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe he'll send me a copy of Poop

871
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: Poo Book and it'll be helpful. Yeah, that's right, I'm

872
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: sure you will. I'm sure must you just forgot, you

873
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: must have forgot. The other guy totally forgot. Yeah, it happens,

874
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: can happen, all right? Bye, No, you're like, I have

875
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: my signed copy. Yeah, well, I love you, Tristan Sutter,

876
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: and please give Ryan and Blakesley. I'm a boy Max

877
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: who just you know, it's Blakesley's birthday to day, Happy birthday.

878
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: You know. I saw that post you put um of

879
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: you and her standing with each other, and God has

880
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: a beautiful post. I loved it, very very nice, very sweet.

881
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: So happy birthday this weekend my baby girl who's had

882
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, a full face of makeup because she was dancing.

883
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: But she doesn't need that. She's got you by the game.

884
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: She's thurteen. I gotta used to say she's fourteen. She's fourteen.

885
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: I have a fourteen and a fifteen year old. How

886
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: is that possible? It's not possible because I'm still thirty, right, Yes, yes,

887
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: you absolutely are, and so am I and I a

888
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,479
Speaker 1: four year old and one and a half yearl because

889
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: that's when I was supposed to do that. That's right,

890
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: that's right. Okay, you know what your normal is? Normal?

891
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: It's all yeah, everybody's there. I got their own normal.

892
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: I suppose it's right. But I always love doing this

893
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: with you. I'm so excited. We're gonna be doing this

894
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: so much more moving forward over the next few weeks,

895
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: over the next few months, it's gonna be a whole

896
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: lot more regular. So make sure you're still tuning in

897
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: and check it out. Everything we got to to bring

898
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: to you, guys, and as always, thanks for joining us here.

899
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Speaker 1: Almost thank you, see like, oh jeez,