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Speaker 1: Were with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, April twenty ninth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Season sixteen April up. Sorry, Season sixteen, episode number seven.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of The Break. We are live

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Speaker 1: at some point in the near future we will be back,

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Speaker 1: with you guys about some Cowboys football. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into the NFL Draft. It was an interesting weekend for

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Here what these guys have to say about

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and how they did this weekend in the draft.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna dive deep into a lot of the different

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Speaker 1: positions that were affected, particularly the cornerback position, where there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of change here over the last several days.

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Speaker 1: And excited to be joined by my normal crew David Hellman,

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Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, Nick Eatman, how are you guys doing today?

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Speaker 1: And Hey, Derek, I'm great, awesome, good, good, Glad you

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Speaker 1: guys survived draft weekend. It was a busy weekend. We

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Speaker 1: had a lot going on. And I'll open the show

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Speaker 1: by asking each of you guys to give me just

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Speaker 1: I guess answered this one question, filling this blank for me,

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys draft was a blank. I'm gonna start with you,

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Speaker 1: miss Garcia. Spectacular nice. No, I thought it was so great. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I had my doubts, sue how the whole process was

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Speaker 1: that first round or I know, we're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 1: But the more we got through it, the better it got,

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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. You know, Like they did not

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Speaker 1: disappoint me one bit, Nick, I mean, it was just

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Speaker 1: there's quality. I would say they got quality in there

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Speaker 1: I thought that was really good. Hellman, it was exciting.

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Speaker 1: It was so exciting. Um, I don't like, I don't

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Speaker 1: say it's amazing draft class. Right now, I think it's

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Speaker 1: kind of ironic the twenty sixteen class that was so

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Speaker 1: it makes me feel weird that everybody is convinced how

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Speaker 1: Cowboys draft him as the first round number seventeen overall.

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Speaker 1: In the first segment, we talked about the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: I would say like inconsistencies in their technique or probably

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00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: why they fell. Although I would I would say, I mean,

427
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: Diggs probably went right where he was supposed to at

428
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day, so I think it all

429
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: worked out for the best. But I think they're really

430
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: impressed with their ability to play man coverage Nick. Yeah.

431
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean they had a high second round grade on him,

432
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: and you know he goes eighteenth in the second round,

433
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean I thought it was somewhat of

434
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: a steel but you know, he's he's probably has issues,

435
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, going up against some really great wide receivers.

436
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean, there are some good ones in the SEC.

437
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: We're seeing some highlights here against the Duke, but when

438
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: he goes up against the SEC, you know, there's a

439
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: lot of guys in the league there, so um, you know,

440
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: I bet you coverage is it inconsistency, But that's gonna

441
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: be the case, you know, with with a lot of

442
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: these guys. But I think he's got really good size

443
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: and you're seeing some tackling ability at him, not afraid

444
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: to mix it up, which is good. Ever, honestly, don't

445
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: ask me how these guy fell into anywhere in the draft,

446
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: because this was all like a surprise to me. It

447
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: was surprising to see in a way, to see that

448
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did go for him on the second round

449
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,959
Speaker 1: because after seeing the first round pick, I was like,

450
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: oh boy, they are gonna go ahead and get a

451
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: little too cute in the second round and not really

452
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: draft for what he's needed. So this guy, I think

453
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: he did end up in the spot that he was

454
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: supposed to be, and I like that he has the

455
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: ability to get the ball. You know, he has good hands,

456
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: and that is one of the top qualities that I

457
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: was looking at for some of these guys when it

458
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: comes to the secondary guys that have good hands and

459
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: can catch the ball and interceptible. So this guy had

460
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: I believe three interceptions last year, and at least that's

461
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: something I'm looking forward to seeing this year. I don't

462
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: know much about position FLEs as far as like, is

463
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: this one of the guys we'll be talking about later

464
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: on about maybe switching to safety. I don't know how

465
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: he would do there, but I think it was a

466
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: good pick for the Cowboys. Do you think Dix comes

467
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: in and immediately becomes the starter at cornerback or one

468
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: of the two starters at cornerback? I think not. I

469
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: don't think so, just because of the nature of the position.

470
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean we just went through this three years ago.

471
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: Cheeto was pick sixty, so it's a comparable pick to

472
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: number fifty one. It's a similar level of talent. Maybe

473
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: Diggs has a little bit of a better draft grade,

474
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 1: but it's close. And I mean, cheto dealt with injury problems,

475
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: but he didn't step right in and take that job away.

476
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: You've got three guys that have played a lot of

477
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: NFL football ahead of him. I leaned toward thinking he

478
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: will be like a utility guy, which I'm honestly really

479
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: excited about. You know, the word on the street is

480
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: that Digs is gonna wear thirty one, and I don't

481
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: want to compare their games, but like he's got you know,

482
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: there's some comparables there with Byron in the sense that

483
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: this guy has thirty three inch arms, which go watch

484
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: the tape. It's fun to see the way that he

485
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: uses his length to bail him out. So if you

486
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: want this guy to help you cover tight ends and

487
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: maybe just kind of be an all around utility defensive

488
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 1: back until he can claim the starting job, I'm not

489
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: mad about that at all. It's interesting the Cowboys, Nick,

490
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: did you have something on that. No, I'm just watching

491
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: it's just probably a gonna be a penalty right here

492
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: against Arkansas. That's probably a face mask. But for the

493
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: most part, no, no, I thought, I think the Byron Jones,

494
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 1: this is not good right here, the Byron Jones. At

495
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: least it wasn't John Stephen that threw that interception there,

496
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: um Buyer jokes. Comparison is very good. I like that,

497
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: and I like the fact that he's got some punt

498
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: return ability as well. So maybe it doesn't go to

499
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb, but I think I think Lamb with the

500
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: ball is a little bit better than this guy. But

501
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, that's a couple of times in a row

502
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: we've seen. You know, he just goes straight up the

503
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: field scoring touchdowns. Anytime you're drafting a defensive back that's

504
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 1: got some touchdowns on his highlight reels, pretty good. Look

505
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: how those legs like, Look how fast he is. That's

506
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: another thing that I like from him. He can move.

507
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: He has so much mobility, and he can just react

508
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: quick and go for it. You know, you don't see

509
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: him hesitating too much, and he's fast, you know, Derek

510
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: got oh sorry, go ahead, Well, I was just gonna

511
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: point out I'm probably switching gears, though, I point out

512
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: that you know, they got those two guys and then

513
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: they just have agreed to terms with a veteran right

514
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: now in Daryl Worlie. So they're adding a lot of

515
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: cornerback depth in the last three or four days. Yeah,

516
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: And it seems like there's a there's a consistent thing

517
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: there too. They're they're they're big, they're they're long, um

518
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: and and particularly with Diggs and with Reggie Robinson, the

519
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: scouting report on them says that they're guys that play again,

520
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: play well in man coverage press man coverage. Uh. And

521
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: are they attack the ball? You look at Diggs, Digs

522
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: a former wide receiver and uh, and they say he

523
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: plays like a wide receiver type mentality when the balls

524
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: in the air. So it looks like they are looking

525
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: for a specific type of cornerback UH. And so my

526
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: question for you guys is what does that mean for

527
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: those guys like uh, like Cheeto Woozier who's been here

528
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown who's been here, and uh and maybe

529
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: maybe even Jordan Lewis who's been here, who may not

530
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: be that exact same type of cornerback as some of

531
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: these guys they're bringing in. It's hard not to notice

532
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: that all three of these guys, the two draft picks

533
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: and then Worley have an awfully similar makeup to Al

534
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Harris was, you know, the new Dbats coach, was a

535
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: great man corner during his NFL career, so it's not surprising.

536
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it's hard not to think that

537
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: maybe some writings on the wall, not necessarily for twenty twenty,

538
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: but when you're starting to think about contract extensions and

539
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's it's hard not to wonder where

540
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: the future lies for Jordan and Cheeto for sure. But

541
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: those guys are up this year, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

542
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: And I think you could see that throughout the draft.

543
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: The Cowboys were drafting players that will be you know,

544
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: position needs next year with some free agency. But I

545
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: guarantee you every coach in the world, no matter what

546
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: kind of prototype that they prefer, they're going to take

547
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: the playmaker. And Jordan Lewis has proven that he can

548
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: make plays. Now Cheeto needs to prove that, you know,

549
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: more than he has done. But but Jordan, I think

550
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: is the best playmaker they've got in the secondary. So

551
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: while he may not be you know, it's tall and

552
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: long and have the length. He does make up for

553
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: it with making plays, and I think every coach will

554
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: appreciate that, So that will probably help him get on

555
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: the field for sure. McCarthy mentioned in his press conference

556
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: that some of the cornerbacks have some position flex and

557
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: could play safety. Cowboys did not select a safety in

558
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: the draft. Is there a need do you think at

559
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: this point to maybe move one of those cornerbacks to safety?

560
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: And also, who do you think would be the best

561
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: candidate to do that based upon the guys that they

562
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: have on the team and the guys that they drafted.

563
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't Cheeto. Maybe, I mean maybe Cheeto, but this

564
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: is a really big year for him going into free agency.

565
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if I mean, he wouldn't have his

566
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: hand up to say, yeah, let let me move positions,

567
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: but that it may not be his choice, but I

568
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: think he's the guy that has has the most experience

569
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: doing it. I don't know about worldly. I don't know

570
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: if he's done it. I don't know much about him

571
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: right now. I'm actually I'm look I mean, Chee, Cheeto

572
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: did it some in college. I'm looking to see if

573
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: I can find how many games he played at safety.

574
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: I don't have it on but I know, I mean,

575
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: I know he did it. That was part of his

576
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: scouting reporter. So he's the name that comes to mind

577
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: one again because they're bringing in all these cornerbacks that

578
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: seem to fit what the new coaching staff wants too,

579
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: because he's done it. But then Jerry Jones in the

580
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: post draft press conference name dropped Reggie Robinson as a

581
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: guy that they think can do it. I'd be willing

582
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: to bet Diggs could do it too, but I don't

583
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: know why you would want to do that with a

584
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: guy you just drafted him the top fifty. Me personally,

585
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't I don't love it because I hate it.

586
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Like when I feel really good about my depth at

587
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: a position, I hate it when people try to take

588
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: my depth away, Like I want all the good cornerbacks.

589
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Let me just let me have some awesome depth and

590
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: not try to thin my position out. Having said that,

591
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, if they've agreed to terms with Daryl Worley,

592
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: I think that gives you like seven decent options at cornerback.

593
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: So if he's in the mix, you could convince me

594
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: to move somebody to safety, and maybe it's not as

595
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: bad of an idea, but just in general, I'd rather

596
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: have depth than just be moving people for the sake

597
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, because can you name four safeties

598
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: right now on the team. I mean, you got two

599
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: starters in Haha and Xavier Woods. They signed Darry and

600
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Thompson to be there, you know, their third guy, and

601
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: then you always have Donovan Wilson by no means, and

602
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: I am I saying it's great, But they've got four

603
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: three of whom have started and you know, played well,

604
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not. It's not always forget Darry and Thompson.

605
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't know why. He's pretty good, Yeah he is.

606
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: He's not a bad third guy at all, um, which yeah,

607
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean, oh sorry, go ahead, Derek, no good. I

608
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: just I don't want to move Reggie. I don't want

609
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: to move Robinson like you just drafted him to help

610
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: you replenish the cornerback depth chart. I mean, if he's

611
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: as good as they hope he is, I would hope

612
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: he's a cornerback of the future. Same thing with Diggs.

613
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: You know, get him working at the position that you

614
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: drafted him to play. So if I was going to

615
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: move somebody would probably be Cheeto because one he's done

616
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: it before and two you don't know what his long

617
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: term future with right is. Right, you would hate You're right,

618
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: you would hate to have Robinson working at both, working

619
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: at safety, not having great development, and then Cheeto and

620
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Lewis are gone next year and they're

621
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: trying to move Reddie Robinson back to corner and it's like, well,

622
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: he's almost like a rookie again. So I agree with

623
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: that point with Dave. You know, if this is where

624
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: you think he's going to be, this is where he

625
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: should probably play. Think about how better Byron Jones could

626
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: have been if they weren't moving him around to safety

627
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: the first couple of years. I feel like we see

628
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: this a lot where before the season starts or even

629
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: training camp, we feel great about a death in a

630
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: certain position, and then as you started going on, you know,

631
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: as you start moving being eventually starts like thinning out

632
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: and you start noticing those players that you thought could

633
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: play really well and then turns out that they really

634
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: are not stepping up. An example, you could talk about

635
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: Cheeto like I thought he was gonna have a great

636
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: year last year and he didn't. He started you know,

637
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: going backwards a little bit. So I am hesitant when

638
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: they start mentioning those possibilities of moving some of these

639
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: guys to safety if they wanted to. But I am

640
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: giving up. I do not care about the safety position

641
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: anymore because I realized. I realized that if they don't

642
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: care about it, why should I care about it so much?

643
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: Why am I stressing out about this position when they

644
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: are not? So next year, I am yere age next

645
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: year they're gonna do it. I promise maybe next year

646
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: I'll start carrying again. Next year? Is that what Jamal

647
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: Adam is going to be a free agent? No? No,

648
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: I'm I agree with like I'm I'm writing off that

649
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: position until they've proved me wrong. That's like all through

650
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: the draft process, people talking about Grant to elput In,

651
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney, and I'm like, why are you doing this

652
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: to yourself? You know they're not I did it. I

653
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: did that to myself. You can't. You gotta learn. You

654
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: gotta learn from what they tell you, which is every

655
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: year they're just like, ah, we don't care and neck.

656
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: You know, well, that's that's a little unfair this year

657
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: because I don't think it was a situation where they

658
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 1: just didn't want safety. I think they followed their board, which,

659
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: if you know, we all agree that. Okay, I'm not no, no, no,

660
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm I honestly I think it worked out fine. And honestly, again,

661
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, I feel good, or at least fine about

662
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: what the duo of Haha and Uh and Xavier Woods

663
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: can do. And you know, you gotta give them some credit.

664
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, five million dollars on a veteran safety is

665
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: way more than they've done in recent memory. Uh. You know,

666
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix is, he's he's not he's not Jamal Adams,

667
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: but he's been to a Pro Bowl in his career.

668
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: This is a better safety signing than we're used to.

669
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: And I feel like, you know, they probably think they

670
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: can just add another guy like him next year, whether

671
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: it's resigning him or Xavier Woods or another veteran. I

672
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: just think it's kind of like nose tackle. They just

673
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: think that they can keep churning that without spending major resources,

674
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: which I disagree with. But they've done a better job

675
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: of it this year than in past years. Yeah, And

676
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't even know if

677
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: they necessarily need to move a cornerback. Like you said,

678
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: they have four safeties on the roster right now. I

679
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: think everybody's kind of excited to see what Donovan Wilson

680
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: can do because he showed some flashes last year during

681
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: the preseason, and he's your fourth guy. So really it's

682
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: more a matter of is there a cornerback that you

683
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: could prepare so that in the event you get into

684
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: the season and you start getting some injuries at the

685
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: safety position, you can flip them over. I agree with you, guys.

686
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: I think Cheeto would be the natural the natural fit there,

687
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: but you don't necessarily have to move him. You just

688
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: have to get him ready so that he can take

689
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: over in the event that you have some injuries and

690
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do something different. All right, I

691
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: think we're gonna go ahead and take another early break

692
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: here before we jump into Can I ask something real quick? Sure? Absolutely, Well,

693
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: since we're talking about that, what would be y'all's thought

694
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: about maybe Jordan Lewis being put in that position to

695
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: where now you're trying to keep your best players on

696
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: the field, and Jordan Lewis is definitely a playmaker playmaker,

697
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: So if you have some of these guys that you

698
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: rather have at the corner position. What are your thoughts

699
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: on maybe having him at safety? You don't see a

700
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: lot of safeties at that size. He's got to be

701
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: able to come up and tackle. That's just you know,

702
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: you wonder about the wear and tear on his body

703
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: if he has to go and make some tackles in

704
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: the open field and stop the run and get you know,

705
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: hit by guards and you know, tackles that are pulling.

706
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: So that's just not a prototype. You see a lot

707
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: at the safety position. That doesn't mean he couldn't do

708
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: it at times. I just but it seems like he

709
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: hasn't been the prototype to begin with anyways. You know,

710
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: he's a slot corner. I mean, that's that's where those

711
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: guys fit. But but you're right, he makes plays. Um,

712
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: he needs to be on the field and and you know,

713
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: I think Mike Nolan is creative enough to figure out

714
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: ways to do that. And it doesn't necessarily mean that

715
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: he has to play safety at all all positions, but

716
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: I think they're you know, we we saw against the

717
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: Saints where he was shadowing Kamara. You know, he can

718
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: do some different things. You have to be creative with him.

719
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 1: But I think he's worthy enough to do that. I

720
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: don't know if it's safety all the time, but it's

721
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: somewhere in that nickel package for sure. Yeah, I just

722
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't ever bring it up because as far as

723
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: I know, he's never done that. That's not to say

724
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: that he couldn't or wouldn't. He just you know, you're

725
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: just trying to fit puzzle pieces together and he doesn't

726
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: have that on his resume. I'm in favor of anything

727
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: that gives him a chance to get on the field.

728
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: I hope that this new staff doesn't write him off

729
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: because he doesn't look like what they want him to

730
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: look like. Um, I think that kind of happened to

731
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: him when Christoph Shard came in. You know, Nick said

732
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: it earlier, like he's one of the only guys in

733
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: the back seven with like proven ball skills and a

734
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: proven track record of making plays. So whether it's safety, nickelback, cornerback,

735
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I just hope he gets a

736
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: fair shake when, you know, when this team finally gets

737
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, if I fear what that Dave is,

738
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be h not to say, he

739
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: won't necessarily get a fair shake. But just reading the

740
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: tea leaves are the types of guys they're bringing in now.

741
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: I think he's certainly is going to have to be better.

742
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't that that doesn't mean he's not going to

743
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: get a fair shake. It just means he's got to

744
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: be clearly better than the types of cornerbacks and that

745
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: they are looking at. And he's got to be clearly

746
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: better from the standpoint of how they look at him

747
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: future wise as well, because they may look at it

748
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: and say, hey, these other guys we think out greater potential.

749
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: We want to get them more opportunities because as we

750
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: want to develop them a little faster because next year

751
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: we want them to be starting. So I think he's

752
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: got to be This is a year when he's gonna

753
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: have to play really really well, and certainly during training camp,

754
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: whenever they're back on the field with the coaches, you're

755
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to play really really well in order to

756
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: get their attention. Because this position that was a position

757
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: that was kind of thin, has now got a lot

758
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: of bodies and it's gonna be hard. But these guys

759
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: are gonna have to differentiate themselves if they want to

760
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,759
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761
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: starters or one of the guys is playing in the

762
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: top three. So we'll go ahead and take our final break.

763
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna talk about Neville Gallimore,

764
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,520
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765
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Speaker 1: I got a great idea, Nick, Why don't we sometime

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00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,719
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Speaker 1: You can, absolutely. You better. You better get used to it,

817
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818
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819
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: do that for sure. For those of you that don't

820
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: know though, Like Dave's got a little slack to him. Yeah,

821
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: you wouldn't think. You look at him, you think maybe not.

822
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Dave's got a little he can move a little bit.

823
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: He's got a little bit to it. It won't be

824
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: it won't be the worst one. Hey, if you submit,

825
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,439
Speaker 1: it won't be the worst one they have. I dare

826
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: gave that does Dave have swag? Or does Dave just

827
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: not care how stupid he looks? It's maybe a little

828
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: bit of bout. I just know that you don't. You

829
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: don't look like an idiot when you're trying to dance.

830
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Speaker 1: So I think it might actually work. We might actually

831
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: get some some good stuff from him. That might be

832
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Speaker 1: the nicest thing you ever said to me. What would

833
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: Broadus say to that answer, Well, you don't look like

834
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: an idiot when you dance. What would Broadus say to that,

835
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: you don't look like an idiot when you dance? Would

836
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: he agree? I would say, mark b on your scantron

837
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: for fall better question. What would Brad Sham say about

838
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: that question? All right, we're gonna move on. We're gonna

839
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: move on. It's eliminated conversation. That is eliminated conversation. All right,

840
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: let's talking about Galimore. Um, he was the third round

841
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: pick for the Cowboys at picked eighty two. Talk to

842
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,160
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843
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Speaker 1: me a little bit about it. Give me a scout

844
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: a report on this Galimore guy from Oklahoma. It's big,

845
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: he's like stuff's the middle. He's not getting pushed back.

846
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's the kind of I mean, if

847
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: you just all you have to do is look at

848
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Speaker 1: the kind of guys they have signed this year in

849
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: free agency, had defensive tackle. They're trying to get a

850
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: different prototype. There he fits it. And you know, I

851
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: know this that when they drafted digs, they did not

852
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: they weren't true to their board because Gallimore was rated

853
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: higher than that. They went with Need. It wasn't that

854
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: much higher, but it was a little bit higher. But

855
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: then when they got to the third round they said,

856
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: wait a second, we got it. Here's this guy sitting here. Um,

857
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: he you know, and he would be a guy that

858
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: if you look at Poe and McCoy, they're not long

859
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: term fixes here. So I think it's just a good

860
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: fit all the way around. I'll take the words right

861
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: out of Will mcclay's mouth because he told us a

862
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: guy like a guy that side shouldn't be able to

863
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: move that. Well. You know, he surprised a lot of

864
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: people with his forty time at the combine, and Will

865
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: basically said, you know, when a guy that's playing defensive

866
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: tackle can move like that and get after the quarterback

867
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: like that, uh, it makes your defense a lot better.

868
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: And he mentioned his his reactive athleticism as well, which, Yeah,

869
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: your ability to change directions quickly, react to things quickly

870
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: makes you valuable at any position on defense, let alone,

871
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: you know, the one that people typically associate with big,

872
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: slow guys. So I think they were really impressed by

873
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: having such a twitchy athlete play in that position. And

874
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: I'll make a prediction there. This is a this is

875
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: a bold prediction, but Neville Galimore will play some offense

876
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: next year, but a package what about pose that same

877
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: kind of guy, right, he's done it, Okay, Well, he's

878
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: lost a step or two. And I think Galimore will

879
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: be the guy that that does that. I bet, I

880
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: bet he plays one snap of offense. I just think

881
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: where we're gonna have some changes like that, We're gonna

882
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 1: have a little fun creativity that maybe the coach before

883
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: it didn't do too much of. I'm here for it.

884
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: I love that idea. Let's talk about what that pick

885
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: means though for Tristan Hill. Triston Hill was a guy

886
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys drafted last year a second round by

887
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: all accounts, didn't really live up to what the expectations

888
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: would have been for him. In his first year. There

889
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: were games mini games that he was actually inactive for,

890
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: so he didn't even work into the rotation. What do

891
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: you think this says about what this coaching staff thinks

892
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: of Tristan Hill or does it say anything about that?

893
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if anybody wants to talk bad about

894
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: this draft, they could just use that card. All you

895
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: have to pull out is the Tristan Hill card. While

896
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: they picked him in the second round. So let's be

897
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: careful of how we get, you know, too excited about players,

898
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: which is true. What does it mean for him? I

899
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: just think he's going to be battling for playing time again.

900
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: If Antoine Woods comes back and signs his tender and

901
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: like he's expected to do, you know, there's four tackles

902
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: with Gallimore. You know, is he going to be better

903
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: than Gallimore. That's that's going to be the key. But

904
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: I was really hoping he would have a full offseason

905
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: in the weight room with the strength and conditioning coach

906
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: to get better and stronger. He still could be doing that,

907
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: but you know, you wonder about the structure for all

908
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: those young players. Yeah, I'm I'm curious what this might

909
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: mean for Tristan Hill because I mean, right now, I

910
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: don't want to read too much into anything because I

911
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: don't think that defensive tackle depth chart is filled out.

912
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: Nick mentioned Antoine Woods. Christian Covington was a guy that

913
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: I thought they might sign after the draft, but he

914
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: went to Denver instead, So I think one way or another,

915
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: they've still got to add a body there. I think,

916
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, they have Justin Hamilton, who they brought in,

917
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 1: but really they've only got I think they've got five

918
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: right now, which you'd probably like to see more, especially

919
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: for a training camp roster. So right now, I don't

920
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: want to read too much into it, but if they

921
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: bring in a veteran, if Woods comes back, Tristan Hill

922
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: needs to have a good training camp again. I mean again,

923
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: he's the last staff's pick and he was not impressive

924
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: when he was there pet cat Let alone, this staff

925
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: that might not think the world of him at all.

926
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, hopefully he's having a productive offseason

927
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna need to perform when this

928
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: team finally starts practicing. Where do you think Gallimore fits

929
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: best three technique of one technique for a guy that

930
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: moves like I bet he keep played. I mean, I

931
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: think he can play both three for sure, but I

932
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: want him penetrating he can move. If he can move

933
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: like that and get after the quarterback the way that

934
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: they think he can, I want to put him in

935
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: the position where he has a chance to do that.

936
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: But I do think he can play both. Yeah, I

937
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: could see him being the backup to Gerald McCoy there

938
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: and Poe playing the one technique, and maybe Antoine Woods

939
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: is the backup there even though you know, as big

940
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: as Antoine is, and look it fills out that ninety

941
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: nine jersey and with this with this staff and the

942
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: and there and what they like on the tackles, he's

943
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: actually undersized for I think the way that they want

944
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: to play. But um, you know, there's been a lot

945
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: of questions about him. He's an exclusive rights free agent.

946
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: They gave him a tender, he hasn't signed it. He

947
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: doesn't have much leverage. If he wants to play football,

948
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: he'll probably have to sign him and play. And you know,

949
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: I would imagine he's on the Cowboys if he makes

950
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: the team. But um, there's there's a lot of fans

951
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: that keep asking about this because he's he just hasn't

952
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: signed his tender yet. Well, I also, I mean, and

953
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to, I don't wanna what's the word

954
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: speculate too much? But I mean, do they want him back?

955
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Like is it simply he hasn't signed it, or like

956
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: they haven't offered him the tender to be signed. Now

957
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: they they've issued the tender. They have I had to

958
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: ask that question. He has, he has issued the tender.

959
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: But he told the one time, long time ago, like

960
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: in February, when we were actually up there at the

961
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: training table. He said he wanted a long term deal.

962
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: He's looking for like a three year, ten million dollar deal.

963
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: He told me that, and I'm like, okay, And Drew

964
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: Rosenhouse is his agent. He's looking for a deal. I

965
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys are interested in doing that, obviously,

966
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: and so I think there's a little bit of issue there.

967
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: Nobody in the NFL has less leverage than in exclusive

968
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: rights free agents, So right right, sorry, buddy, He'll be

969
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: back to tell you. And as you guys just said,

970
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they need bodies at that position. I don't

971
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 1: think that they're finished filling out that position. They're gonna

972
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: need that. You would think they would need him to

973
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: play this year, and he doesn't really have the leverage

974
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: to go anywhere else if the Cowboys won his services

975
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: at the price of the exclusive right tender. So to me,

976
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: it seems like it's a no brainer that he's going

977
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: to be here if he wants to play football. Yeah,

978
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know what you know, what I'm missing here,

979
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: But I think he's a good player. I do. I

980
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: like his size. I think he plays hard, He's played

981
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: through injuries, He's tough. You know, he just kind of

982
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: has this attitude that he plays with that you know

983
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: d Law has trained him well. He plays in that

984
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 1: hot boy attitude. And I think that there's a good

985
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: fit for him. And if he was my third or

986
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: fourth tackle, that wouldn't be bad for me. I don't

987
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: have a problem bringing him back. If anything, I thought

988
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: maybe the new coaches were not particularly enamored because again,

989
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they go out and signed don try Poe,

990
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: who is the opposite of Antoine Woods. I mean, I

991
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: think he's a good player, but there's no way around

992
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: the fact that he's an undersized nose tackle. So my

993
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: thought process was that maybe they would want a bigger guy,

994
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: but if they want to bring back Antoine Woods, they

995
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: got one, no problem, Yeah they did. I don't have

996
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: a problem with that at all. Yeah, but as Nick said,

997
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: if he is your third or fourth guy at defensive tackle,

998
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: I love that. Like, maybe you don't love him as

999
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: your starter, but as a depth guy, guy that's gonna rotate.

1000
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: I love that. I love bringing in a guy with

1001
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: that kind of energy to be able to come in

1002
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: and spell my my starter. So I really like that,

1003
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: and I hope that they all that he signs his

1004
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: tender and gets back because I think he can be

1005
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: a real asset to this team with the current construct

1006
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: of what they have at defensive tackle. All right, let's

1007
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: move on to talk a little bit real quickly about

1008
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: Tyler Biadas, who was the fourth fourth round pick pick

1009
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: number one forty six for the Cowboys center out of Wisconsin, Obviously,

1010
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: the big comparison here is that he's out of Wisconsin.

1011
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick retires, Uh, he is also a center out

1012
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. Talk to me about just the nature of

1013
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: what's happening right now the center position and who the

1014
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: players are at this point that are in line to

1015
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 1: possibly replace Tyler Frederick, and maybe where Tyler Biadis fits

1016
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: into that. Travis Frederick. Yeah, I was like, that just

1017
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: did not sound right, Tyler Well, Travis Frederick, Tyler Biadas, Yes,

1018
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 1: go um. You know, I think that that they covered

1019
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: them else when they signed Joe Looney. If they no

1020
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: one is better than Joe Looney, then that's gonna be

1021
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: your center next year. And I think he's proven that

1022
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: that can be pretty good, but you could always get better,

1023
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's not a lot of teams

1024
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: that were knocking on his door that wanted him to

1025
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: be their starting center. So I think that if if

1026
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, beyondest is it can come in, and you

1027
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: also forget Connor mcgovernor, it will should be able to

1028
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: compete there. So they've got options at center, and someone's

1029
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: got to beat out Joe Looney. So I think that's

1030
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: a good bar if you can get over that, then

1031
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: they'll be better on offense. Yeah, I'm I'm really fast.

1032
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: I think, by the way, this is all going to

1033
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: pan out, because it seems like there's a lot of

1034
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: moving parts. Before they drafted Beatish, they said it was

1035
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: going to be between Looney and the two Connors. That

1036
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: means that they expected Connor Williams to at least have

1037
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: some kind of role in this competition. Do they still

1038
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: expect that to be the case, or do they insert

1039
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: Tyler Beotish into the conversation and let Honor worry about that,

1040
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Or conceivably, if Connor Williams can't beat out Connor McGovern

1041
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: at left guard, do you consider him as a possibility

1042
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: at swing tackle? Because if you're looking for ways to

1043
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: knock this draft class, they didn't really address that problem

1044
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: at at offensive tackle. Again, for the value they got

1045
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 1: everywhere else, I'm not mad about it, but that's still

1046
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: a fact. So I'm curious to see how all this

1047
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: shakes out. I think it's probably a mistake to just

1048
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: assume Tyler Beatis is going to like plug into the

1049
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: starting lineup. That doesn't mean that he can't, but I

1050
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: hope people aren't expecting the same day one success as

1051
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick just because they went to the same school.

1052
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Is Joe Looting sufficient as your center? Do you feel

1053
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: good about him? If he as your sinner? If he's

1054
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: not my center, that means somebody else played way better

1055
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: than him, in which in case like I feel great

1056
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: about that. But I expect Joe loooning to win the job,

1057
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: and I think I think they'll be just fine. But again,

1058
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: if somebody plays out of their minds and takes the

1059
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: job away from them, then that means that the competition

1060
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Speaker 1: worked the way it's supposed to. Dave Camber, I'm sorry.

1061
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry guys that I haven't been participating so much,

1062
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: but my audio is all screwed up, and I keep

1063
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: hearing like cuts in and out. But I see that

1064
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about the center position because I

1065
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: see Joe Looney up there, so um, I mean, I'm

1066
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: curious to see everything that happens here. I did hear

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Dave said and talk about a lot of moving parts

1068
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: happening here and then mentioning all these other guys prior

1069
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: to drafting the center guy us to possible players that

1070
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: could go into the center position if needed. I am

1071
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: curious to see what they do with with Karner Williams

1072
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: and corner my Vern who. To be honest, last time

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00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: I saw him at the facility towards the end of

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: the year, he still seemed very I don't want to

1075
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: call him weak, but he didn't have the body that

1076
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: you would want an offensive lineman to have. You know,

1077
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: he to me still lacks a lot of strength, just

1078
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: based off looks because we haven't seen much of him

1079
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: since he was out all last year because of the

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00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: pectoral injury that he got. So I'm just very, very

1081
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: concerned about this offseason and how that's going to pan

1082
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: out for the class from last year, you know, as

1083
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 1: far as putting on weight and strength. And you talked

1084
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: about Tristan Hill too in the in the earlier segment,

1085
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: So these guys that did not have a successful year

1086
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: last year, it makes me wonder how much this whole

1087
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: situation with the virus and us not being too able

1088
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: to go to the facility just yet, how that's gonna

1089
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: play a role into the development of these younger players

1090
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: and what they're gonna be able to do this next year.

1091
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: All the more reason why I'm putting my money on

1092
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Joe Looney to win the job, you know, and also

1093
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: don't forget that, you know, when Joe Looney was the

1094
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: starting center a couple of years ago. You know, he

1095
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: had played some in training camp because Travis was injured,

1096
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: but all offseason Travis was healthy. So, you know, unlike

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00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: that year, this offseason, which let me just scratch that,

1098
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: because this offseason is not like any offseason in the

1099
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Speaker 1: history of football, so it's gonna be different. But I'm

1100
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: just saying his mindset as the starter. He will go

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: into the season as the starter and someone has to

1102
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: knock him off, as opposed to, Hey Joe, did you

1103
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: hear what happened to Travis? You're the starter now? Good luck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually interested. I'm actually interested in one of these.

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Speaker 1: Amber mentioned this with the fact that the team hasn't

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Speaker 1: been there,