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Speaker 1: Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryan over there,

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Speaker 1: and there's Dylan the guest producer again. And this is

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Speaker 1: it's the podcast about Chuck. Some pretty heavy stuff. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I could have sworn we did this one. What do

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Speaker 1: we do roswell no UFOs? Yes, we did that at

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Speaker 1: a comicconn or something, right, Yeah we did. We did alive.

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Speaker 1: I've never been satisfied with that one. I agree. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll redo it one day. Yeah, this is good. This

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Speaker 1: this this area fifty one. UM. I think this kind

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Speaker 1: of covers some ground that I didn't think. I was

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Speaker 1: surprised by. This is what I'm saying. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: And I think the thing that I would wager you

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Speaker 1: just how mundane the explanations for what goes on at

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Speaker 1: Area fifty one probably is secret government research the end, right,

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Speaker 1: but it probably doesn't have anything to do with reverse

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Speaker 1: just bombs and planes. Probably it makes sense. And the

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Speaker 1: if there is a conspiracy going on, the one conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theory I saw for Area fifty one that made the

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Speaker 1: for some other place that no one even knows about.

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Speaker 1: A maybe maybe hopefully they're not quite that on the nose,

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Speaker 1: but it's possible. All right. So let's go back in time,

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Speaker 1: I guess, um to World War two, and well, first

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Speaker 1: and eighties did the United States kind of went ufo nuts.

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00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man. There are so many great books at

429
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: the time that were coming out that claimed everything from

430
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: like UFOs were responsible for them you to Triangle, or

431
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: Atlantis was populated by UFOs, or the Nasca Lines were

432
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: for UFOs, or the Egyptians built the Pyramids with the UFOs.

433
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: All that stuff came out of the seventies and eighties. Yeah.

434
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: So this all kind of coincided with lazar Um having

435
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: his news interview and it and it really just kind

436
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: of changed everything it did, right, So he kind of

437
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: like came out at a time when America was primed

438
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: to really believe it. But but if you think about it,

439
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: like everything you hear about and think about from about

440
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: Area fifty one today did not exist pre nine, pre

441
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: Bob Lazar. All started with Bob Lazar. And the reason

442
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: why everybody wasn't just like so he's just some nut

443
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: who came out and said this stuff. Who cares? How

444
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: did that? How did that become truly cemented with Area

445
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: fifty one? Is that Weirdly, some of the stuff he

446
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: talked about kind of held water, Like he would talk

447
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 1: about just mundane day to day stuff that went on

448
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Area fifty one UM that seemed to h be able

449
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: to be correlated from locals like it held up um

450
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: there is a um. There was a scanner once. He

451
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: said that you would get in and out of rooms

452
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: by scanning your hands and it would scan the bone

453
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: structure of your hand. That was how you were identified

454
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: and could come in and out of rooms. And supposedly

455
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: somebody found years like thirty years later, mentioned of something

456
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: like that and some declassified report about Area fifty one UM.

457
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: He also and this is what really kind of legitimized him.

458
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: He would take people out on Wednesday nights and at

459
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: the time he would say, I never saw what time

460
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: it was, but at the time he said it would happen,

461
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: lights would rise up in the sky and they would

462
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: do all sorts of UFO E kind of stuff. And

463
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: the fact that he knew about these schedules really kind

464
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: of added legitimacy to his claims. Yeah, and the new

465
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: interview that I saw, he was explaining some of that

466
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: uh anti gravitational propulsion technology that the aliens had supposedly

467
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: used that he was supposedly assigned to reverse engineer, and

468
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: he was sort of walking, uh walking the person through

469
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: it that was in the room, and he was like,

470
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and he said, we had this thing. It

471
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: was sort of like half a basketball and when you

472
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: went to put your hand on it, he was like,

473
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: there was this he was it was like bringing two magnets,

474
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: you know, opposite poles too. There's opposite poles that repel.

475
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: And he said, that's kind of what it felt like.

476
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: And he said, so we would drop like a golf

477
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: ball and it would just you know, skirt off to

478
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: the side without hitting it, and like as if it

479
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: had bounced, and the way he was just scribing it,

480
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: I was just like, this guy just seems so credible, right,

481
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: it was so like shocking. I didn't know what to expect.

482
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was I thought he was not going

483
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: to be credible. I guess right. UM. I didn't see

484
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: the interview with them, but UM, I read about that

485
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: technology and UM and by the way, everybody, you can

486
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: erase your email. It's like polls that repel each other

487
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: chuck not o. UM. The the anti gravity technology was

488
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: talking about it was basically saying, like around the craft

489
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: or whatever that they were reverse engineering, it would bend gravity,

490
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: so this could just move right through space basically at

491
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: light speed. That's the big suspicion among ufologists who follow

492
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: this stuff is that they reverse engineering light speed aircraft

493
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: that was propelled using anti gravity technology on engines that

494
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: were matter anti matter engines. And in back in you

495
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: couldn't There wasn't an Internet to start with, but even

496
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: if there was, you could and find stuff like descriptions

497
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: of anti gravity craft at the time. So for this

498
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: guy to just come out and start talking about this

499
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: in an authoritative way, yeah, he he's an enigmatic figure.

500
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: For sure, but he was also one whose credibility was

501
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: questioned right out of the gate too, right. Yeah, I

502
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: mean he said that he went to m I t

503
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: into cal Tech. There are no records of him being

504
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: a student. Um U. The conspiracy theorists will say, like,

505
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: you know how easy it is for the government to

506
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: wipe that glean? Um do you? Yeah? I'm like, I

507
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: don't know, is that easy? Uh So that's what they

508
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: will say. Um They will also say that they also

509
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: like got in touch with his professors to make sure

510
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: they never talked and stuff like that. But that's when

511
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: I get a little bit like, you can't. You can't

512
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: have hundreds of people or thousands of people involved in

513
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: some big, massive cover up like someone's gonna talk. You're

514
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: just not aking big enough. I agree with you. That's

515
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: when it kind of starts to get inky for me.

516
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: But he did disappear, and so I mean not disappear, disappear, disappear.

517
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: But he uh, I mean, it's not like he was like,

518
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: all right, and now I'm gonna go make all the

519
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: money on this right exactly, Like he moved and tried

520
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: to start like a regular business and tried to just

521
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: not be in the public eye. Yeah, he did, which

522
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: I think adds to his credibility even more. You know,

523
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, Let's take our last break and then

524
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: come back, shall we Let's do it, but let's promise

525
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna come back. Okay, all right, stop, okay, Chuck.

526
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: So Bob Blazar comes along, just starts spouting out at

527
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: the mouth about all the crazy alien stuff that's going

528
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: on in Area fifty one, and then he kind of

529
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: like fades into the background for a while, and everybody

530
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: else kind of took it from there. If you have

531
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: anything to do with government conspiracies or believe in UFOs

532
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: or aliens or whatever, all that stuff started to get

533
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: saddled little by little onto Area fifty one. And one

534
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: of the things, um that pretty early on got connected

535
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: to Area fifty one, but almost across the board. Any

536
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: reasonable source or skeptical source will say, like the two

537
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with one another. Is Roswell and

538
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: Area fifty one. Yeah, the Roswell crash in when something crashed,

539
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: gentleman found pieces of an air pieces of some kind

540
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: of unidentified object, and uh, it became UFO Central. Later

541
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: it was it was said to be a weather balloon.

542
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: But first the Army said it was a flying disk

543
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: that kind of right. Sure, I mean it looks like um,

544
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: I've seen that that one famous picture of the guy

545
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: crouching with what looks like just some balloon material, right,

546
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: But you know he was just a stooge for the

547
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: government and that was just a profit that came up with.

548
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: So the Roswell crash happens in UM, there's no way

549
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Area forty one would have been associated with it. The whole,

550
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: the whole mythos around Roswell is that Um, there was

551
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: a UFO crash that happened. Some aliens survived or at

552
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: the very least their bodies were recovered, depending on who

553
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: you ask, and the UFO and the aliens alive or

554
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: dead were taken for further study to wear Area fifty one.

555
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: Area fifty one back in seven when the Roswell crash happened,

556
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: UM was not even on the CIA's radar. It was

557
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: that basically a defunct air strip and day Um nuclear

558
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: testing range still, so there wouldn't have been any place

559
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: to take the aliens in the first place. And then secondly,

560
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: after the Roswell crush happened, UM, the idea of the

561
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: an alien um, an alien crash having taken place there.

562
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: That didn't come about until like the eighties too, so

563
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: really people started to kind of catch onto this a

564
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: little late. So probably Area fifty one in Roswell have

565
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do with one another. And let's not forget

566
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: that they're like eight hundred miles apart two even though

567
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: to everyone in America and really the rest of the

568
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: world outside of the Southwest thinks they're like right next

569
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: to each other, I think, so, you know, yeah, So

570
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of crazy theories over the years. Um.

571
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: The very most basic um are, like you just said, like,

572
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: there's alien corpses there, there's alien technology there. Uh, and

573
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: the US military has been studying this stuff and trying

574
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: to perfect everything from time travel to light speed travel. Right,

575
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: that's that's the basic ground zero approach. Don't forget interdimensional

576
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: travel too, why not? Um another one I saw, there's

577
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: some pretty pretty low hanging fruit that I love. The

578
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: moon landing was faked there, and then after that, right,

579
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: but then after that, Kubrick was executed on site and

580
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,479
Speaker 1: replaced by a clone that cloned did some great work.

581
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: They did, um better than Barry Linden Right would love

582
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: Barry Lindon. I've never seen it, so I can'tently hate

583
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: on it. It's amazing. UM, weather control experiments. That's probably

584
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: the most believable for me. Cloud seating, sure, why not?

585
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Why not? Um? And then there's like stage two of

586
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories. Yes, that is uh, there are aliens

587
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: that clock in every day at Area fifty one and

588
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: work side by side with us in harmony, in harmony

589
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: in order to build like an alien human hybrid race. Um.

590
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: And of all this sounds familiar. I will bet that

591
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: you watched a pretty hefty amount of X files because

592
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: they really tapped into this stuff. Um. They basically just

593
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: appropriated it for plotlines, um, which is great. I love

594
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: the X Files. But it was just I guess Chris

595
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Carter used to hang out with like uthologists or something

596
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: just to get ideas. Did he really or he had

597
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: too of yeah, or he has one himself. I don't

598
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: know much about maybe so uh. And then, of course,

599
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: if you even ramp that up a little bit more,

600
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: that that that this is all part of a giant

601
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: conspiracy to create a one world government that is human

602
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: alien run right. And that's where um, that majestic twelve

603
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: I mentioned at the beginning comes in. They they are

604
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: supposedly a panel of academics, elite scientists. There's twelve of

605
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: them who were impaneled by Eisenhower after the Roswald crash

606
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: um or I guess it would have been Truman, I

607
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: think still um who and they were put together, just

608
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop to basically go contact the

609
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: aliens and basically broke her a meeting I guess between

610
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: the President and the aliens. And they managed to um

611
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: leverage this to catapult themselves into the status of actual

612
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: people who run the world. So they're the ones who

613
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: are forming this this one world government. And that is

614
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: where Area one or that's where it's located. The seat

615
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: of this government is located underground in Area Yeah. This

616
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: next one is um a little more recent and very

617
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: kookie um. And it's it's the notion that Hitler and

618
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: Stalin got together and hatched a plan to undermine the

619
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: United States in World War two by distracting us about

620
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: the threat of an impending alien invasion. And they would

621
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: do this by building a fake spaceship filling it with

622
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: mutant children that Joseph Mingola created and um fill the

623
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: spaceship with those kids, and then the craft crashed in

624
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: a storm, and that was the Roswell incident, right, it

625
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: was meant to land, and then these mutant children come

626
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: out speaking German supposed right. Supposedly the mutant children who

627
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: were the aliens that were found in the Roswell crash

628
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: had huge heads and giant eyes. They were basically like

629
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: the Grays of alien legend um and that Stalin and

630
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: Hitler were inspired by the public's reaction in America to

631
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 1: the World the War of the World's broadcast. They wanted

632
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: to incite that kind of panic um by actually creating

633
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: this fake alien invasion with all the drugs. Hitler was

634
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: on after we know this now who knows? I'm sure

635
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a create idea. It's

636
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: a create idea. Man. Let's what else you got? What

637
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: else you got? What else can we do? Solents like

638
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: mellow He tried CBD. He's like, no, that's the one

639
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: thing I haven't right, he got anything right, but it'll

640
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: mix well with everything else. So this is this is

641
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: obviously not a thing either. Well. This is from a

642
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: book by um an author named Annie Jacobson, I believe,

643
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: and she this book came out in two thousand and eleven,

644
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: and she based this whole thing on an alleged Area

645
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: fifty one insider who was her source, who said that

646
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: he worked on a project UM that had to do

647
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: with this somehow, some way, but that this this was

648
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: where all of this alien stuff came from. It was

649
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: a it was a hoax by the Nazis and the Soviets. UM.

650
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: Weird thing is is there's another guy out there who

651
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: supposedly has a different source who tells the same story.

652
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: But this other source UM says that this is it

653
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: was all fake. That I saw the files myself, but

654
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I believe that it was meant to be a test

655
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: of loyalty, or to see how I would react working

656
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: at Area fifty one two files like this and be like,

657
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is real, this is real. I

658
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: can't believe this is this is actually real. So I

659
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: guess to see how gullible you were and therefore how

660
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: trustworthy you were, right, which could explain Bob blazar situation too,

661
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: because he was supposedly in a room full of files

662
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: he probably shouldn't have seen either, right, So that that

663
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: you've got three different sources who supposedly worked at Area

664
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: fifty one. Technically, I should say, because we'll get email.

665
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Bob Blazar worked at S four, which is an even

666
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: more secret installation that's attached to AREAT one. But you've

667
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: got three people who allegedly worked in Area fifty one

668
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: who all tell a story about basically being left in

669
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: a room with files that contained information about aliens, whether

670
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: it was a hoax or real or whatever. And maybe

671
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: that is because that kind of correlates with the idea

672
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: that there were like gunpoint interrogations to verify your allegiance

673
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: to the government or the military or whatever. Maybe that

674
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: is something they tried there. Yeah, it doesn't make the

675
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: actual aliens real, It just makes the presence of the

676
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: files real. That's true. So Area fifty one today as

677
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: it truly exists. Um, if you're driving down Highway three

678
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: seventy five, there's an unmarked dirt road between mile markers

679
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: twenty nine and thirty or I guess thirty and twenty nine,

680
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you turn on that road. It's twelve miles

681
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: on a dirt road, and you'll get to a gate

682
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: and there'll be warning signs all along saying restricted area

683
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: sort of like close encounters type stuff. Um, there will

684
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: there will be cameras and censors everywhere, So don't think

685
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: you're like getting away with anything. No, there's there's Mike's

686
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: that listen to your conversation like you were. You were

687
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: under as close surveillance as you've ever been in your

688
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: life from what I understand. Yeah, and there are guards

689
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: of course, and they will say I'm sorry, turn around

690
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: and drive back to the highway. And if you persist

691
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: a little bit, um, then you will get arrested. Um.

692
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: If you're around the perimeter area kind of walking around

693
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: with your binoculars, um, they will probably come and take

694
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: your binoculars and tell you to leave, or drive you,

695
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: um back to the highway, or maybe smash your facing

696
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: and bury you in the deserts. Well, there's a sign

697
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: that says use of deadly fourth forces authorized. Um. But

698
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: there's from what I've seen, there's never been an incident

699
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: that where that actually happened. You're much more likely to

700
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: get handed over to the local cops, who will slap

701
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: you with a several hundred dollar fine sure if you

702
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: if you give them any kind of guff and don't

703
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: leave immediately when they tell you to. So kind of

704
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: the cool thing about Area fifty one there, Um obviously

705
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: that I mean there are civilian workers that work there.

706
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: It's a huge facility that apparently is still growing, um

707
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: because you can look at satellite photographs and year by

708
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: year it seems to be getting bigger and bigger with

709
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: more buildings. Uh. If you work there, and um, I

710
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: mean they have to have everything from food services to

711
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: custodial services, to plumbing and electricians and stuff like that,

712
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: and all of those people have the highest possible security

713
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: clearance an American can have. Oh sure, so they don't

714
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: drive down that dirt road and just go to the

715
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: gate and say how you doing, Rick, and they go

716
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: come on in Jane. Uh, they go to mccarren Airport

717
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and they all get on a big

718
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: basically air taxi. Um, it's a seven thirty seven passenger

719
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: jet that fly. They call him the Janet Jets at center.

720
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: The call signed Janet. They're white, the big thick red stripe.

721
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: You can look it up online and they that's how

722
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: they get to work every day. They fly everyone in

723
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: on a seven thirty seven and you can see them

724
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: on the tarmac. They just get in with the regular planes.

725
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: It's just look for the Giant seven thirty sevens that

726
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: are white with the red stripe and pretty cool. No logo,

727
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: no nothing. They don't actually have a name, like you said.

728
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: They fly under call signed Janet. People have tried to

729
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: figure out forever what Janet means. There's an idea that

730
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: it's just another non existent terminal stands for that or

731
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: joint air network for employee transportation. But if you go

732
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: visit the Nevada Aerospace Hall of Fame, they tell the

733
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: story that there was a commander of Area fifty one

734
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: named Richard A. Sampson from v one and he chose

735
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: his wife's name Janet to identify the commuter shuttles. And

736
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: that's the that's the most romantic, super secret government story

737
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: of all. So we kind of teased earlier on that. Um,

738
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: the government is no longer saying like I don't know

739
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Like, no, the satellite image that

740
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: we're all looking at of buildings, I don't see anything

741
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: but dirt. Um, that's all changed a little bit now

742
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: because of a lawsuit in the mid nineteen nineties or

743
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: a group of workers from Air that sued the government

744
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: because of the it's an environmental disaster there, or you know,

745
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: maybe that's changing now, but it had been for many,

746
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,479
Speaker 1: many years because of the fact that it's a black

747
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: project and so unregulated that they were just basically doing

748
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: everything like dumping hazardous waste and burning it and trenches

749
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: and people were there just inhaling these fumes and getting

750
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: really sick. And a guy named Robert Frost that worked there,

751
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: an employee UM had a lot of really bad health problems.

752
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: Doctor said, you were sufferings from some kind of a

753
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: really bad chemical reaction, and in order to treat it,

754
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: we need to know what it is. And the government said, sorry,

755
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: we can't tell you that. He died. He died, and

756
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: some other co workers filed this lawsuit and one of

757
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: them ended up dying too, and they finally got to

758
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: like a Nevada i think, or a federal circuit court

759
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: that said, no, you gott don't have a right to

760
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: know what what you've been exposed to. They weren't looking

761
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: for money, they just wanted to know what was killing them.

762
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: And and and the reason that they had no legal right

763
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: to know was and this is that that trial that

764
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I was referring to earlier where the government representatives were saying, like,

765
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: we like, the place that they're talking about doesn't exist. Sorry,

766
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: So imagine like trying to just get past that barrier, right,

767
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: You're suing the government to find out what they were

768
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: burning that made you sick, But the government's in court saying, like,

769
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: the place that they're talking about doesn't even exist. That's like,

770
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: that's obstacle one. But the whole reason that they were

771
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: burning this stuff in the first place is because UM

772
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 1: Area fifty one operates under what's called the mosaic theory,

773
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: and the mosaic theory is that any little piece of

774
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: information a spy gets his hands on could be fit

775
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: together with other information to to provide a larger picture

776
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: of what what's being done at Area fifty one. And

777
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: as a result, nothing can come out of Area fifty

778
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: one UM like the chemical that's killing the people, right,

779
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: or computers that go in and are used. Once they

780
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 1: get decommissioned, they get put in this pit and these trenches,

781
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: and every two weeks they go out there with jet

782
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: fuel and everything that's been put into the trenches over

783
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: the last two weeks gets douse with jet fuel, it's

784
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: set on fire with road flares and whatever is in

785
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: that smoke the workers get exposed to because for some

786
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: reason they built the trenches upwind of this um this

787
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: installation rather than downwind, and so people were exposed to

788
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: this every two weeks for years and years and years,

789
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: and things like you know, um anti radar paint, um.

790
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: The jet fuel that they're using is an acceler and

791
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure wasn't helping, but just all sorts of exotic

792
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: materials that was super super classified. The this is what

793
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: was killing these people. We're making them sick exactly. And

794
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: the government said, no, this is just to classify. These

795
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: people can't know, they're just gonna have to go off

796
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: and die on tree did because we're not going to

797
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: say publicly what what they were exposed to. And that's

798
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: that's where it stood that case. Uh they did finally,

799
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: finally in that case say okay, there's an area fifty one.

800
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I know, the whole courtroom went out for beers that

801
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: day afterwards, so there's a thing there, and that that's

802
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: really all we can say, sorry, is there's a thing there.

803
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: But that was the very first sort of uh insight

804
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: into the just that admission that there was something there

805
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: was the first time that had ever happened, which is

806
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: in the mid nineties. Yeah, and um, you were saying,

807
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: like people would point to satellite images of the place

808
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: and you can see that it's growing now, like you

809
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: can see it on like Google Maps. That is really

810
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: new because it wasn't very long ago where all the

811
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: satellites in space were controlled by the government, and the

812
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: government could control what ended up in satellite images, so

813
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: they blocked out anything any image of But as private

814
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: firms started launching their own satellites, it became basically impossible.

815
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: So just a little by little, it's it's becoming to

816
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: the point now where they're like, yes, they acknowledge something's there, No,

817
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: you can't know what's going on there is basically the

818
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: status quo now pretty much. So that's Area fifty one.

819
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: And sorry, we kind of took the government tach here

820
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: and uh didn't really go all in on the alien theories,

821
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: but I just don't think that's what it is. Uh.

822
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: If you want to know more about Area fifty one, UM,

823
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: I guess just start reading about it. There's some pretty

824
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: interesting stuff out there. And since I said that it's

825
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: time for a listener mail. This is about nicknames. This

826
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: is from Rob Bob. Oh yeah this one. Hey guys,

827
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: my name is Rob Bob, Rob and Bob combined into

828
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: a singular form. Uh like Jim Bob, but better. My

829
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: mom has explained to me that it started when I

830
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: was about six months old. I was a really chunky kid,

831
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: like and then ninety nine percentile for weight. They felt

832
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: like no other nickname like Robbie or Bobby fits, so

833
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: they started calling me Rob Bob. Um. Many years later,

834
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: I meet my wife, which is almost eight years ago now,

835
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: and quickly found out that her favorite writer is Richard Wright.

836
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: Since reading his novel Native Son, has wanted to name

837
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: her kid Richard to honor the impact he had on

838
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: her life. She had visited his grave in Parison as

839
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: every book he ever published. Um. When she met me,

840
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: I told her about my super nicknames that I had

841
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: wanted to call my kid because you see, my father

842
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: is William Bill for short. But now since we came

843
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: up with these weird names, I call my dad will

844
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: Bill to bug him. This leads me to why I

845
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: have always wanted to name my child Richard since high school.

846
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: Then we would in order to have a will Bill,

847
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: a Rob Bob, and a Rick Dick, all in three

848
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: generations of awesomeness, my wife does not approve and things

849
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,959
Speaker 1: we should look else air for name ideas with great

850
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: admiration Rob Bob and Rachel Nice. Thanks Robbob, good luck

851
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: with that with your your quest. Yeah, I don't think

852
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: Rick Dick is going to fly in your household. I

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