1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Do you know another parent or expecting parent. Are you 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: wondering what can I give them as a gift? Nancy 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Grace here, don't give them another onesie, don't give them 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: a plastic toy or god forbid, a toy gun that's 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: just going to end up in the garage. Give them 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: something that matters, and what matters the most is protecting 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: their child. What do you love most in the world 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: your children? 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Z find out how to 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: protect your child when you're out of the mall or 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: the store, or the grocery, in the parking lot at home. 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Find out about protection regarding babysitters, in daycare, even online. 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I'd rather have that any day of the week than 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: a plastic toy or God forbid a toy gun. Join 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Justice Nation, go to crime stops here dot com Crime 24 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Temple Police now say the Oklahoma 25 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: State Medical Examiner's Office has positively identified the bodies found 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: in rural Oakfusky County as Jenniscott and Michael Sweringeon. On 27 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: January ninth, Temple police requested help from Oklahoma state investigators 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: in connection to a homicide investigation after two bodies were 29 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: found in Oklahoma. The two have been missing since January fourth, 30 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: and their car was found abandoned in Austin a few 31 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: days later. How did a twenty eight year old Texas 32 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: mother and her friend thirty two go all the way 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: from Texas and end up dead and shallow graves in Oklahoma? 34 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Two weeks later? I, Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. 35 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. How in the world 36 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: at twenty eight year old Ginnis Scott and thirty two 37 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: year old Michael Swearingen end up in Oklahoma in a 38 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: rural town, in one shallow grave. It is three hundred 39 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: and fifty miles from where they went missing in Temple, Texas. 40 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: To ask you, Wilcott judge, lawyer anchor. You can find 41 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: her at Asky Wilcott dot com. It's my understanding the 42 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: two had been at Swearingean's home they're in Temple, Texas, 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: and that they go missing. We find out that his car, 44 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: swere Engine's car is then found in Austin, Texas. You 45 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: know that's three Yeah, it is that far away, Nancy. 46 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: And they don't know why his car was in Austin 47 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: at this point in time, nor do they know where 48 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: the two individuals are, what state, what city, and so 49 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: it's shrouded in mystery. Why was this car in Austin. 50 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: We also know that they were in a hidden grave, 51 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: just a shallow grave hidden. But then the story progresses 52 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: to Robin Willinsky Crime Online dot Com investigative reporter or 53 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: author of Beautiful Life CSI by Casey Anthony trial on Amazon. 54 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: As always, you start looking at the husband, the boyfriend, 55 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the X. Tell me what happened next, Robin. That's right. 56 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Police start looking as see at the tentacles. Who is 57 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: this woman involved with? Who's her friend involved with? And 58 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: they come up with an X whose name is Cedric Marks, 59 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: And they're like, you know, well, where is he? And 60 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: maybe he has something to do with it, and then 61 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: it turns out that her home had been burglarized, and 62 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: they start looking at the court records and she, you know, 63 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: had paperworker, oh right, whose home was burglarized, Jenni Scott. 64 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: And there's paperwork, and there's paperwork court documents that show 65 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: that she was getting a restraining order against him. So 66 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: clearly there was a matter between these two guys. Don't 67 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: forget to surveillance equipment was missing from the home. I'm 68 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: learning more about Cedric Marks. I'm understanding that he was 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: a pretty accomplished MMA fighter. To Stephen Lampley for Detective Steven, 70 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about his career as an 71 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: m M A fighter? Well, answe his record is about 72 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of wins. I think his records 73 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: about thirty thirty. He's about fifty fifty. He's apparently very 74 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: good at what he does. But in addition to that, 75 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: he has, from what I understand, a very lengthy criminal 76 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: record in a very violent past. So this gentleman is 77 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: obviously a suspect, a very strong suspect in my opinion. 78 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: Joining us for an interview today is Cedric Marks. Cedric, 79 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Fantastic Good's great to have you 80 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: on and you're fighting Bobby Booker for Shamrock FC this weekend. 81 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: So first of all, tell us about that fight and 82 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: how you're feeling in preparation for it. You know, I'm 83 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: training like Hebrew slaves, you know, I always do for 84 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: all my fights. You know, this guy, I've seen a 85 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: couple of his fights. Now, I don't know a lot 86 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: about him, and I don't like look at a lot 87 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: of people's fights before, you know, going up against him. 88 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I noticed that when I started fighting, we had no 89 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: YouTube back then, so there was just you know, you 90 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: get in there with some opponent wherever they bring you, 91 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: count everything, you take care of business. From that point 92 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: about the only things that I do know about him 93 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: is that he can take a lot of damage. So 94 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to work on a few strategies 95 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: for that. Okay, you're hearing sound of the boyfriend, the 96 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: former boyfriend sedgick marks. You know, I'm curious, Karen start. 97 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: You were bringing up a really important part regarding the 98 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: surveillance video in Jenna Scott's home. Yes, Nancy, the surveillance video, 99 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: she hadn't stood, I'm sure because she was fearful about 100 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: this man who was a fighter is missing. So somebody 101 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: was smarten to know that they would take that surveillance 102 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: video which leads South playing you know, Bache Robin Willinski 103 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: Crime a line dot com investigative reporter. Does the name 104 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: April Peas ring a bell to you? It actually does. 105 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: This is a woman that mister Marx was involved with 106 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: ten years ago. He actually has a son with this 107 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: woman and she's been gone nowhere to be found ten years. Okay, 108 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: wait a minute, Wait a minute, So this is another 109 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: X of Cedric Marks, the mixed martial arts professional April Peas, 110 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: missing since two thousand and nine, vanished while in the 111 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: midst of a custody battle with Cedric Marks. You know, 112 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't get Ashy Wilcott. What do women see and 113 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: a guy that's a professional fighter. Do you think he's 114 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: going to change his personality when he gets home? Yeah, 115 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: not at all, Nancy. Not only that, I am so 116 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: greatly disturbed by the fact that there's another X from 117 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine who's missing vanished. All of these 118 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: things together as yes, I'm gonna point fingers and say 119 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: I hope that he is certainly a person of interest. 120 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, this is what we are learning that back 121 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: in July, she Jenna Scott, applied for a protective order 122 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: against Cedric Marks. This is as you heard earlier from 123 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: Robin after he broke into her home and threatened her 124 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: and her daughter. Now in the arrest affidavit, it claimed, 125 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: which we have looked at, he was angry at her 126 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: for ending their relationship when we tried to break it off. 127 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: When she tried to break it off, he choked her 128 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: and threatened her. According to the police affidavit, he broke 129 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: into at home August twenty eight she lived there with 130 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: her daughter, by going in through the garage, and she, 131 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: Jenna Scott, was alerted when an alarm told her where 132 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: he was in the house. And that's not uncommon where 133 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, where your alarm tells you which window or 134 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: door has been breached. So she even came in through 135 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: the garage. Steve Lampley, Yeah, I mean, the long systems 136 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: are very very good these days. They can tell you 137 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: what points they come in and at some points where 138 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: you are in the house itself as you progress through 139 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: the home. So yeah, I mean she was very capable 140 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: of along where he was or whoever it was. That 141 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: they'd given time, So according to this alf of David, 142 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: it's police half of David. Correct me if I'm wrong, 143 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: Robin Wilensky. When she confronts him about being in her house, 144 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: he grabs the phone she was carrying out of her hand. 145 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: She screams to her nine year old daughter that she 146 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: had told to stay in her bedroom to call nine 147 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: one one, but then he orders her not to call 148 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: nine one and says to Jenna, it's your word against mine, 149 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: that he had friends in the police department and if 150 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: she reported him, she'd be in so much danger she'd 151 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: have to enter the witness protection program. I mean, really, 152 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I've got friends ends in the police department, Robi Willinsky. 153 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean that that's all true. You know, there's a 154 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: lot of threats going on here. Also to the point 155 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: one other thing adding to that list that he actually 156 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: chokes her and causes her to pants out. So if 157 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: here's a guy who's an MMA fighter who knows how 158 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: to do that, he knows where to, you know, touch 159 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: you around the neck, so you're gone, you're out. Scott 160 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: and her friend Michael swearing Gin have been missing since 161 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: January fourth, but yesterday two bodies were found near Oklahoma 162 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: City that are believed to be Scott and swearing Gin. 163 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: We don't know the facts of everything yet, but that's 164 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: looking pretty scary, you know, if indeed we're looking at 165 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's a homicide, two homicides in a picture, 166 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: and still her daughter's missing and this guys in jail. 167 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: At this point, Marks has not been charged with murder, 168 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: but today he was named a person of interest in 169 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: the two thousand nine disappearance of April Peas you want 170 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: answers say, I do they last to be heard. She's 171 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: going to go to Minnesota for treatment and my sister 172 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: is hopeful with that, and we didn't hear anything after that. 173 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Pieces uncle says. The worst part is the not knowing, 174 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: not knowing if she's just hiding somewhere or she is 175 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: in fact dead. She's not hiding, okay, She's not been 176 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: hiding since two thousand and nine. You're hearing from our 177 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: friends that would a TV Grand Rapids, Michigan. That was 178 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: Heather Walker speaking with April Pieces uncle in Michigan. She's 179 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: not hiding, okay. The harsh reality is that she, April 180 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: is dead and I don't understand why. Just now her 181 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: then boyfriend and they're in the middle of a heated 182 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: custody battle. Says Mark is just now a person of interest. 183 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pushing me over the Ashley Willcott because 184 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: if that case had been handled correctly, then we wouldn't 185 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: be here right now finding two bodies in a shallow 186 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: grave in Oklahoma. Oh, I completely agree with you. And 187 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: that's what frustrates me with these crimes when you have 188 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: basically career criminals that nothing's ever happened to them. Cases 189 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: aren't investigated, they aren't charged, they aren't tried, and as 190 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: a result, what do they do? They have the same 191 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: crime they commit again. And I hate to say this, 192 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: I just I think he is the one that did this. 193 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't want any other potential suspects to be eliminated, 194 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: but I have to say my gut is on this one. 195 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: He is involved in these murders. So Robert Willinski help 196 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: me sort through this. Okay. He breaks into Jenna. Well, 197 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. He has a child with 198 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: April Pas. They get into a big custody battle. She 199 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: goes missing, all right, number one, that's in Ashgan. Fast forward. 200 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: He gets in a relationship Jenna Scott. She already has 201 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: a nine year old daughter. They have a problem because 202 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: he breaks in, he's violent, and they issued a rest 203 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: warrant for the home invasion. Do I have it so far? Robin? 204 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: That is correct. The only thing missing there is that 205 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: she actually, if you're curious how these two met, they 206 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: met on tender and then the relationship goes sour and 207 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: she gets the restraining order against restraining order, and that's 208 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: after he breaks in through the garage. Then suddenly she 209 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: goes missing and she turns up in a shallow grave 210 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty miles away. Wow, I wonder who 211 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: did that? And then a break in the case. Right now, 212 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: Temple Police are continuing their investigation into Marks. He was 213 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: arrested in Michigan last week for allegedly breaking into Scott's 214 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: home back in August, and he's now in the process 215 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: of being extraded back to Bell County. Before that break in, 216 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Jenna Scott was afraid was going to hurt her. On 217 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: July twenty seventh, she filed for a protective order. In it, 218 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: she claimed Marx told her he killed pets when he 219 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: was a child and that he killed someone in Oklahoma 220 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: covered it up and could do the same in Texas. 221 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: She claimed Marx was a master manipulator, a pathological liar, 222 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: and a psychopath. But this order was dismissed. Right now 223 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: we don't know why. And today we received new details 224 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: about Marks pass with a different woman, April Peace. She 225 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: is the mother of Mark's son. Court documents say the 226 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: two were in a bitter custody battle over their son 227 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: in Washington State. The documents described Marx as someone with 228 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: aggressive behavior but who was in complete denial that he 229 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: has issues around domestic violence. Peace went to a protected 230 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: location with their son because she claimed she was afraid 231 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: of Marx, and ultimately got custody of their son because 232 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: her living situation was more predictable. But in the midst 233 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: of that custody battle, she went missing. Peace was last 234 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: seen on March seventeenth, two thousand and nine, in Minnesota. Today, 235 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: police there confirmed Cedric Marks is being investigated as a 236 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: possible person of interest in Piece's disappearance. Minnesota authorities say 237 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: they are aware of the developments here in Texas and 238 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: will follow up on any new and relevant information impacting 239 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: her case now. Earlier today, I spoke with Jenna's father, 240 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan Scott about April piece in Mark's possible connection to 241 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: her disappearance. This is what he had to say. I'm 242 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: not surprised at all. Man terrorized my daughter for two 243 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: and a half years, the almost three years. If that 244 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: is the case, and they are these cases are linked, 245 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: then hopefully justice will be served again. He is expected 246 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: to be back in Bell County facing burglary charges. You 247 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: are hearing from our friends at Ksee NTV. That's NBC 248 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: reporter Cole Johnson and speaking to Jenna Scott's dad. Okay, 249 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: Robin Whiskey that the plot is thickening. So he gets arrested. 250 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: But he is arrested on the home invasion to Jenna's garage. 251 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: What happens next? So, Nancy, here's what happens. They pick 252 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: this guy up in Michigan. They pick him up and 253 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: they start transporting him back to Texas along with some 254 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: other prisoners. And oh, by the way, somebody's hungry. So 255 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: they stop at McDonald's and guess what, Nancy, he escaped. 256 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, you got a truck load 257 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: of felons and somebody gets hungry, so they stop at McDonald's. 258 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Did I just hear that that say yes, no, Robin, 259 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: is that right? That is correct? Ashley Wilcott, Have I 260 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: lost my mind? Somebody gets hungry. You got a van 261 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: full of felons and you stop at McDonald's. Hold on, 262 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: before I go to Ashley, I want you to listen 263 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: to this newser listening this morning. At approximately seven twenty am, 264 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: the Conrad Police dispatched Racy to call from Texas Prisoners 265 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Transport Services advising of an escapee from their transport van. 266 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: The escapee, identified as Cedric Joseph Marks. She's a blackmail. 267 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: The date of birth is set in fifteen of seventy four. 268 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Was able to elude custody when the transport van stopped 269 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: at McDonald's at eight oh one North Loupe, three thirty 270 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: six west. Marks escaped on foot and in an eastern direction. 271 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: Marx was in the transport was in transport from Grand Rapids, Michigan, 272 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: after being captured by the US Marshals for a warrant 273 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: for a burglary of a habitation with intent to commit 274 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: another felony. The Texas Prisoner Transport Services was in routes 275 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: to Bell County at the time of their stop. Marx 276 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: also has warrants for the murders of Michael Swearingen, aged 277 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: thirty two, and Jenna Scott, aged twenty eight, in an 278 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: investigation that began in Temple, Texas in January of two 279 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen. The Condoro Police Department and the mcgomner 280 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Office are working in conjunction with multiple state 281 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: and local agencies to apprehend the suspect. We have air support, 282 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: Kane tracking dog from TJ, and multiple ground units searching 283 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: the area. Our primary concern is for the safety of 284 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: our community. We have sent notifications to our citizens to 285 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: multiple sources, including emergency notification systems, the media, and social media. 286 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: We urge our citizens to allow law enforcement to conduct 287 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:29,239 Speaker 1: this investigation. You are hearing the police newser regarding the escape. Yes, 288 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: you heard me, the escape of Cedric Marks at a McDonald's. 289 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: How come they're transporting nine people? Somebody gets hungary, they 290 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: have to stop. They couldn't hold it until they got 291 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: to where they were going. Out of the nine felons 292 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: on that vehicle, only Cedric Marks escapes. If seeing do 293 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: not attempt to make contact with Marks, contact nine one 294 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: one immediately. The circumstances surrounding the escape or this escape 295 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: are currently under investigation, including interviews with the transport company 296 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: and other inmates on the transport van. We appreciate this 297 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: sistence understanding of the public in this fluid and very 298 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: serious situation. We will continue to keep our citizens updated 299 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: through social media and our media partners. Are there any 300 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: questions at this time? Can you repeat again? Who needs 301 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: to stay? You are advising to stay, advising citizens who 302 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: live in the area between one oh five and the 303 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: North Loop on both sides of forty fives just to 304 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: stay indoors as they can. Can you tell how many 305 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: other people were on the transport van? There were two 306 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: guards or employees from the transport van and I told 307 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: of ten prisoners and one escape piece, So we have 308 00:19:47,520 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: nine additional inmates on the van. Hi Nancy Grace here? 309 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: Have you ever Googled yourself, your neighbors, somebody at work? 310 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: A crush? Fifty seven percent of Americans and meant to 311 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on their own online reputation. Forty six 312 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: admit to using the Internet to look up somebody from 313 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: their past. But Google and Facebook the tip of the 314 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: iceberg when it comes to finding personal information. 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Fothfinder dot com forward slash 324 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: Nancy truthfinder dot com forward slash Nancy, Find the truth. 325 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: Climb stories with Nancy Grace. Please found his car in 326 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: Austin when they first went missing in January. And tonight, 327 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: swearing Jon's girlfriend is speaking to us for the first time. 328 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Kavi's Kayla Norwood has been on this story all day. Kayleen, 329 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: there are questions, as she once answered tonight, the big 330 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: question is how could this happen? Please say? Marks escaped 331 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: at a McDonald's and conrow hours later. Swearingen's girlfriend is 332 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: relieved that he is back in custody, but the victim's 333 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: family's fear for their lives when they got word he 334 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: had escaped right when you think it can't get any 335 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: word today, please say Cedric Marks managed to break free 336 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: when his prison transport advance dot for food at a 337 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: McDonald's and conrow. He's accused of killing his ex girlfriend 338 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: Jenna Scott and her friend Michael Swearingen. Their bodies were 339 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: found buried in Oklahoma last month with two guards in 340 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: charge of ten inmates. Please say it at around seven 341 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty Sunday morning, Mars got away. It's unbelievable. It is 342 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: unbelievable that this whole thing is just honestly a nightmare. 343 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: That swearing Jin's girlfriend, Rachel Foster two had known each 344 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: other since high school, but started dating about a year ago. 345 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: She says she was in love with swearing Gin and 346 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: ever since he went missing January fourth, she's been through 347 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: a whirlwind of emotions. You go fund depression that this anger, 348 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: and with the more recent news of his death, there's 349 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a lot she misses about him. Helen everything, We absolutely 350 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: agree the news of Mark's escape only added to the 351 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: pain and fear. Stop at a McDonald's and he's triple shot, 352 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: triple shackled at the hands. Your hands are the shackle 353 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: to your waist, Your waist. It's like a chain belt 354 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: around your waist, our shackle to your ankles. McDonald's, Karen, 355 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Why are they stopping at a 356 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: McDonald's with a double killer, possibly a serial killer, possibly 357 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: a serial killer and in that band there were nine 358 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: people who are shackled, And how in the world, Nancy 359 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: did he get away? It makes me I really, it's 360 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: so reminiscent in some ways about OJ and here she 361 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: issues with a friend, not a boyfriend, as they're murdered, 362 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: and this guy is on running away and they're chasing him. 363 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: It's just so strange, unbelievable. You know, to Stephen Lampley, 364 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: you're the renowned detective. You've worked with felons your whole life. 365 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe they've got nine felons in there and 366 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: they go to McDonald's. That's the whole reason. They have 367 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: bars on transport vans so nobody can get out, and 368 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: this one guy gets out. Stephen Lampley, Nancy and I 369 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: know they're one from I've got friends who did the 370 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: tip done to transport before. And they're going from Michigan 371 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: to Texas. They've got a long trip and they're allowed 372 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: to make rest stops and meal stops. But my concern 373 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: is how what was the situation that they allowed this 374 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Marks guy to escape? But what I'm having a hard 375 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: time wrapping my head around that what kind of situation 376 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: they created that would allow this to happen? You know, 377 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Robin Willinsky, climb Online dot Com investigative reporter, you have 378 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: inside information. What did you learn, Robin? You know, I 379 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: was listening to Lieutenant Dorsey McGinnis with the Conro, Texas 380 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: Police Department, and there was a nugget at the very 381 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: end of her very intense news conference when Cedric Marks 382 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: is on the run, when he's on the loose, and 383 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: it was her belief that he was not in handcuffs. 384 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: And my question is why not? She seemed to pin 385 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: it on the Texas Prisoner Transport Services that they were 386 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: going to interview see all the other prisoners that whoever 387 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: was driving that prison van. But if he wasn't in handcuffs, 388 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: that is just an incredible developer. Oh no, not in handcuffs. 389 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, man, we know of two people we think 390 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: he killed, Jenni scot to Michael Sweringeon. Now you've got 391 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: the other woman, April Peas he's a person of interest 392 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: in that. Finally after about ten years. But listen to this. 393 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: Did you hear this, Robin Willinski? It was on Lieutenant 394 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: Dorsey McGinnis with a Conro police department, speaking at that 395 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: news conference in the last hours. He said there were 396 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: two employees from Transport Service, nine inmates and quote we 397 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: quote we do believe there was still one guard in 398 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: the van or near the van. They didn't say, yes, 399 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: there was a guard in the van. Yes, there was 400 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: a guard standing beside the van. No, they go we 401 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: thee there might have been a guard at the van. 402 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it. No wonder the victims 403 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: families are so upset, Robin Willinski, Yeah, because who is 404 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: guarding this guy? Who's in charge? Who's larger in charge? 405 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: You have people that are accused on that van of felonies, 406 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: of murders, of burglaries. Who is in charge from this 407 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: very long van trip from Michigan all the way down 408 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: to Texas. That's a really long ride. You need people 409 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: who are larger in charge. Nancy, Well, I know they 410 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: have to stop to go to the bathroom. I know 411 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: they've got to stop to stand up, or to drive 412 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: through somewhere, but you don't leave the vehicle unattended with 413 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of felons sitting in there with nothing to lose, Okay, 414 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: nothing to lose. And they can't tell me for sure 415 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: there was a guard. We do believe there was still 416 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: one guard in the van or near the van. I mean, 417 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: this guy is on the hot seat, Lieutenant Dorsey McGinnis 418 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make sense of what's happening. That's 419 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: what we know right now. So Robert Willnsky, the search 420 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: is on for SEDGEC. Marks. Listen, please say. Marks escaped 421 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: at a McDonald's and conro on the run for hours. 422 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: He had labor streets hander strains in a belliger screen 423 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: with two guards in charge of ten inmates. Please see. 424 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: At around seven thirty Sunday morning, Marks got away located 425 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: in the one thousand block of Windswept hiding in the 426 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: trash can. Marks taken back into custody without a fright. 427 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: So Robert Willinsky, he's found in a trash key and 428 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: where Yeah, he's found in Texas. They get word out 429 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: from the lieutenant and so they're they're on the lookout 430 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: for him. And he's pretty easy to spot. He's a 431 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: big guy in an orange prison jumpsuit, Nancy, and they 432 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: kind of close in on him near a walmart and 433 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: somebody spotted him and the next thing you know, he's 434 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: found in a trash can. It must have been a 435 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: pretty large trash can. And he only has the prison 436 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: pants on. He's naked from the waist up, and wow, 437 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: does he look terrible. And then they finally put him 438 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: in the shackles and they have the pants. They kind 439 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,719 Speaker 1: of tie his pants on. In the video you can 440 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: see that they don't want his pants to come off too. 441 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: And then they finally lock him down and throw him 442 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: in a police car. Take listen to sens Kelly Harton. 443 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: It took air support ground units in K nine tracking 444 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: jogs to find cedric marks. After this nine hour man hunt. 445 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: He escaped from this prison transport van as it was parked. McDonald's. 446 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: One of the drivers of the vehicle was near the 447 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: vehicle at the time of his escape. Of course, that 448 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: matter is under investigation. He took off on foot, but 449 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: as it turns out, he didn't get very far. He 450 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: was discovered in the backyard of a home in the 451 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: neighborhood just behind that McDonald's listened to a recount of 452 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: his capture from the man who lived next door to 453 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: that home. R anybody running, police running in and scramming 454 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: on everything or are they saying? I was saying, hey, 455 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: stop stop persisting and pretty much like my sister. She 456 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: was over there in the room and she heards some 457 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 1: noises when whenever they got him, did you see him? 458 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: See him when they drab him and pulled the handcoats? Arrabaton? 459 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: What was he wearing? Orange dump sue? So Marx was 460 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: arrested for the burglary of his ex girlfriend's home and 461 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: the intention to commit another felony. He was found in 462 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: Michigan by US marshals. So he was being in in 463 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: the process of extradited back to Texas when he managed 464 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: to escape and this man hunting suit. He is also 465 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: looking at pending murder charges for three murders, including that 466 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: same ex girlfriend whose home he burglarized the community of Conrad, Texas. 467 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: Can rest easier tonight, but this story is far from over. 468 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: He tells how many other people were on the transport van. Yeah, 469 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: there were two guards from or employees from the transport 470 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: van and a total of ten prisoners and one escape piece, 471 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: so we have nine additional inmates on the vand so 472 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: was he being supervised when he escaped. We are currently 473 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: conducting an investigation regarding all that situation, so I can 474 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: just say right now, that's an investigation. We do believe 475 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: there was one still in van or a new van. 476 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Is he wearing or restraints to your knowledge right now 477 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: or was he able to do? That's still an investigation. 478 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: We do not believe he's any kind of hand restraints. Okay, 479 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: so anyone sees anybody out there if they wouldn't expect 480 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: that he would have any type of restraining on land, 481 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily. But again that's still under investigation. We don't 482 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: have a good we don't even an answer for that yet. 483 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: No hand restraints. You are hearing the police news or 484 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: after subject marks escapes. Let's get back down to it. 485 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: So he's found in a trash can, how fitting Robert Lensky. 486 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: We've got him now, right, I'm not even going to 487 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: talk about him not wearing handcuffs and apparently the guard 488 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: not being in or beside the vehicle to keep using 489 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: the word near which could mean inside, having a cup 490 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: of coffee, occasionally looking at the van for all I know, 491 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that. But let me 492 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: get past that if I can, because it's making my 493 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: teeth hurt. But we have him now, now, Robin Wilenski, 494 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: how can I tie him other than planal common sense 495 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: to the murders of Jenni Scott and Michael Swearingen. What 496 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: are his connections to Oklahoma? Oklahoma keeps popping up over 497 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: and over, Robin. Remember he told somebody he had killed 498 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: someone in Oklahoma. Now, these two bodies are found in Oklahoma, 499 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: out in the middle of nowhere. And I say that 500 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of love because they came from a 501 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: rural area where you could see nothing but soybean fields 502 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: and pine trees. But out in the middle of nowhere, 503 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: there's like under one hundred people that even live in 504 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: that community in a hidden shallow grave. So what's his 505 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: connection to Oklahoma? And how the hey, Robin Wilensky, did 506 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: they ever find the shallow grave? My understanding of the 507 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: situation is that he owned some land out there in 508 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: the middle of Nowheresville in Oklahoma, and like you say, 509 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: less than a hundred people live in the town, so 510 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: he was very familiar with it and it's the kind 511 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: of place where noan would bother I guess to look, 512 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: except that someone did stumble upon this shallow grave and 513 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: called the police. Well, I've also learned, well, Jackie Howard 514 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: here in the studio learned cash this Robin Lensky. His 515 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: dad grew up in clear View? Is that what you said? Jack? 516 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: Clear View, Oklahoma? And they have a reunion every year. 517 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: Now I can tell you this. My dad was born 518 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: in hay Cody, Alabama. Hey Cody, Alabama? Have you ever 519 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: heard of that? Probably not? It's near up opp Have 520 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: you ever heard of that? Well, that's near Sampson. You 521 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: ever heard of that? Well, that's near the Panhandle. All right, 522 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: now you're getting towards Mobile, Alabama. So let me tell 523 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you if he wanted to hide a body up or 524 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: hey cody' is the place to go, just like this spot. 525 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: So that's the connection. Stephen Lampley, renowned detective. Wow, that's uh, 526 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: that's going way back right to find this spot in Oklahoma. 527 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: That took some police work, Stephen Lampley. Well, Nancy and 528 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what the what the clues were, or 529 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: what the what the information they had was. Accept the 530 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: fact that he is from that area. You're correct, his 531 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: dad grew up in that area. A matter of fact, 532 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: they have. But like you said, the Labor Day reunions 533 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: every year. So I'm I want to assume that that 534 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: was their connection and he didn't bury my understanding, he 535 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: didn't bury these two on his land, but on the 536 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 1: land of another gentleman that is I think close by there. Wow, 537 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot. This guy, sedgric Marks, the mixed 538 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: martial arts specialist, does have that direct connection too clear 539 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: for you. Oklahoma, where the bodies of Michael Swerringeon and 540 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: Jenna Scott were found. His father grew up in that 541 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: small town of only about sixty people, and as Jackie 542 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: Howard tells me, his family hosts a reunion there every year. Now, 543 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: we managed to track down some court records in Tulsa 544 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: County in Oklahoma. Those shows he has the felony charges 545 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and attempted 546 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: escape for an incident dating back to nineteen ninety two. 547 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: They were dropped, but the court records show he pled 548 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: guilty to an attempt at robbery in a firearm charge 549 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: and ninety two. All right, so this guy has quite 550 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: the history back in Oklahoma, so they go straight back 551 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: to that land and there you go. We find out 552 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: he served six years in an Okay prison after that 553 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: guilty plea. He got out in ninety eight according to 554 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: the court documents we managed to get. Wow, you know, 555 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: it just goes on and on. So then Karen Stark, 556 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 1: he comes straight out of prison and he gets into 557 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: mixed martial arts and actually has a pretty good record 558 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: at it. So what do you make of that, Karen Start, 559 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: you're the shrink. I'm not surprised this man who's history 560 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: of violence and so when they can be only stronger, 561 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: and he certainly wants to intimidate people. So it sounds perfect, 562 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: perfect profile. Manti. I think it speaks volumes, Karen Stark. 563 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: This other woman, April Pas had to go live in 564 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: a Better Women's shelter because, as you know, I volunteered 565 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: at the Atlanta Better Women's Center for nine years at 566 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: night when I was a prosecutor. And these women come 567 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: from every walk of life. When I mean it could 568 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: be rich, poor, It doesn't matter your religion or your color, 569 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: and you have no where you can go that's safe. 570 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: And she had to take April Pa herself and her 571 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: son by cygric marks and go hide and about her 572 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Women's center, Karen Starr's. And if you think about a Nancy, 573 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: is it do for her? I mean, there are so 574 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: many people out there who are violent and in that situation, 575 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately there she went to hide. Unfortunately this person in 576 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: the shallow where she did not, and he was able 577 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: to commit crimes anyway, so there was really no place 578 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: for her to hide. What happens now to Robin Willinski, 579 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: Crime Online dot Com investigated reporter author of Beautiful Life 580 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: Cshibs behind the Casey Anthony trial on Amazon. Robin, what's 581 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: going to happen now? I want to find out a 582 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: the mode of death caught, the cod cause of death 583 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: and mode of death if we know Michael Sweringeon and 584 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: Jenna Scott who is leaving behind a little nine year 585 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: old girl. And I want to find out the jurisdiction 586 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: where we think they marder has occurred, because I want 587 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: to find out they've got the death penalty. Robin Lensky, Yeah, 588 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: I think the first thing they're gonna do, the medical 589 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: examiner is, you know, obviously going to look at those 590 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: bodies also see if there's his DNA on either is 591 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: their DNA at that scene in Oklahoma? Did the murders Robin? Robin, 592 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: you know how much I love and respect you, but 593 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: please Okay, he's having a battle with Jenna Scott. He 594 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: breaks in her house. She's found dad four hundred and 595 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: fifty miles away and shallow grave in his hometown where 596 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: he has family reunions every year. What do you think 597 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: like a little gray man from ours came in and 598 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: killed her and swearr engine and then transported their bodies. 599 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: He did it? Need the DNA evidence? You're you're gonna 600 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: need the DNA evidence for the jury. You know, we 601 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: saw how Anthony went when you didn't have when the 602 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: prosecution doesn't connect the dots, and so they're gonna need 603 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: that DNA. So where did it happen, Robin? Where did 604 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: it happen? Once day? Question that either happened in Texas 605 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: or Oklahoma, And so in Texas you have we penalty 606 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: in both, so I think that he's cool. Well, okay, 607 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: I need to know nothing more. Oklahoma and Texas they 608 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: both have the death penalty, and more than one body 609 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: under the law is mass murder. So this guy's nickname 610 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: is Spider Man in the MMA circuit. Good luck getting 611 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: out of jail this time, buddy. We wait as justice unfalls. 612 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace con Story signing off, Goodbye friend,