WEBVTT - Food Shortages and Stagflation

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of The Mark Moss Show,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're talking about the intersection of politics, finance, and technology.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the decentralized revolution, the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>world is changing as the pendulum swings from my centrally

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<v Speaker 1>planned controlled world back to a world of more freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>giving you more liberty and more options, of course, being

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<v Speaker 1>spearheaded by bitcoin and the decentralized technology. And I like

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<v Speaker 1>to cover a couple of things. We cover some information,

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<v Speaker 1>some education so you can change the way that you

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<v Speaker 1>see this, the way that you navigate this. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the latest breaking news and then I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to bring on some interesting people to talk to.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're doing all of that. And right now we

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<v Speaker 1>have some big news that's been happening all around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>breaking stuff. I mean, it's been busy. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that now. You know, with this inflation, with

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<v Speaker 1>food and energy spice prices spiking, Um, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>serious problem on our hands. I saw just today, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the largest grain warehouse in the

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<v Speaker 1>UK Ukraine just got hit. Now that now Russia and

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine are already responsible for like of the global wheat

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<v Speaker 1>supply and the largest storehouse just got hit and that

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<v Speaker 1>got taken out, so that means even less supply. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. And so we're going into a year where

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<v Speaker 1>the un is expecting lots of people to die of hunger,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just complete catastrophe in a world where we

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<v Speaker 1>have so much technology and so much wealth and influence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy to think that that can still happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have this from the AP News. World Bank

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<v Speaker 1>says they have a dim outlook for the global economy, which, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course anyone could have told you. That says the

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<v Speaker 1>World Bank is sharply downgraded its outlook for the global

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<v Speaker 1>economy the prospect of widespread food shortages and concerns about

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<v Speaker 1>the potential return of stagflation, a toxic mix of high

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<v Speaker 1>inflation and sluggish growth unseen for more than four decades.

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<v Speaker 1>So the World Bank sees this. I've been talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's been talking about it. If you haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where you've been watching. But you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be paying attention to this stag place in the

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<v Speaker 1>return of stagflation, something we haven't seen in four decades

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<v Speaker 1>since the seventies. Again, it's a toxic a toxic mix

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<v Speaker 1>of high inflation and no growth sluggish growth. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>so far q Q one quarter one of two we

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<v Speaker 1>posted negative growth, not just sluggist growth. Sluggist growth would

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<v Speaker 1>be one or two percent. No, No, we saw negative

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half percent. That's not good. And at

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<v Speaker 1>time we're seeing record high inflation. So not only is

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<v Speaker 1>it it's not sluggish growth, it's negative growth. So that's extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Na's really just high inflation. It's the highest it's been

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<v Speaker 1>in forty years. It's extreme. So we have extremes of

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<v Speaker 1>both ends, which is not good, which, of course the

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<v Speaker 1>prospect of widespread food shortages. That's what it leads to. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said in today's day and age, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just ridiculous that anybody should have this problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We know how to create electricity, we know how to

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<v Speaker 1>get oil, we know how to grow food. But for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason, the world leaders can't stop meddling. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It says here for many countries recession will be hard

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid, which is which is pretty difficult for the

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<v Speaker 1>United States alone. It says the World Bank has slashed

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<v Speaker 1>its growth forecast from two point five percent this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, I'm sorry, slashed it to two point five

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<v Speaker 1>percent from five point seven percent last year in one,

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<v Speaker 1>so sluggish growth would be going from five point seven

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<v Speaker 1>to the two point five they project. But we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have two point five. We had negative one point four,

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<v Speaker 1>negative one point four UM, so quite the opposite. So

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<v Speaker 1>a good job on your forecast, your way off. That

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<v Speaker 1>says that for the nineteen European countries that share their

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<v Speaker 1>euro currency, it downgraded the growth outlook to two point

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<v Speaker 1>five percent as well this year from five point four

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<v Speaker 1>percent last year. So US was five point seven, the

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<v Speaker 1>European unions five point four, and so they're downgrading both

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<v Speaker 1>of them to two point five. In China, the world's

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<v Speaker 1>second biggest economy after the United States, the World Bank

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<v Speaker 1>expects growth to slow to four point three from eight

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<v Speaker 1>point one last year. The government's can't cause things to grow.

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<v Speaker 1>The World Bank can't get things to grow. The central

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<v Speaker 1>banks can't get things to grow. Central planners can't get

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<v Speaker 1>the economies to grow. The Economies that grow when things

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<v Speaker 1>become more efficient, when more goods and services are created.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading an article yesterday and I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about UM. They were hoping that it would encourage more innovation.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to some other economists talking, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about how um, if you had something like

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin that doesn't have inflation, so the monetary supply is

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<v Speaker 1>not increasing, how um, then it would cause the purchasing

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<v Speaker 1>power of that money, that money supply like bitcoin, to increase.

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<v Speaker 1>So if my right now, if I hold dollars, they're

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<v Speaker 1>losing value, and so I don't want to hold onto

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<v Speaker 1>dollars very long. I want to spend it as fast

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<v Speaker 1>as possible because they're losing value. They're gonna buy me

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<v Speaker 1>less tomorrow than they do today, So that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend them. If we have something like bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>that goes up in value, it buys me more in

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<v Speaker 1>the future than I don't want to spend them. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, but isn't that a problem? Um, don't, don't

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<v Speaker 1>the leaders, don't the central planners need to encourage people

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<v Speaker 1>to spend. I thought, that's the most ridiculous thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. People always want to spend. People always want

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<v Speaker 1>to spend. People want to spend more than they make,

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<v Speaker 1>people want to spend more than make. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>live on credit cards. Right, we don't need to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>anyone to spend. Why, Well, you need food. You need clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>you need a car, you need a house, You want

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<v Speaker 1>some entertainment. That and those shiny, flashy things, the new purses,

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<v Speaker 1>the new electronics, the new phones, the new watches. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy those things. We want new things. We

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<v Speaker 1>like to play with things. You don't need any encouragement,

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<v Speaker 1>And entrepreneurs also don't need any encouragement to run a

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<v Speaker 1>business to make profit, that's the whole point. And how

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<v Speaker 1>do we get profits by being very efficient, by us

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<v Speaker 1>consuming less resources than we can produce, by working to

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<v Speaker 1>gain efficiencies so I can make more profit. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to encourage. What we need to do is take

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<v Speaker 1>the boot off of their neck. And so back to

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<v Speaker 1>this outlook for growth for the global economy, what we

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<v Speaker 1>are seeing is more and more dragged being put on

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<v Speaker 1>the economy by debt and by regulations. So for example,

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<v Speaker 1>um the energy industry has not been growing well for

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<v Speaker 1>the last decade and really the last four or five years.

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<v Speaker 1>The leaders, the powers that be, the Davos Group, the

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<v Speaker 1>EU Group, even in the United States, even Biden coming

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<v Speaker 1>into the White House was talking about putting energy providers

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<v Speaker 1>out of business, making them go bankrupt. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>put regulations in place, and you tell them that your

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<v Speaker 1>is to make them go bankrupt. And what happens. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't invest into their business, they don't grow their business.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that happens, guess what happens with GDP growth?

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<v Speaker 1>It slows down, it goes negative. This is not rocket

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<v Speaker 1>science here, right, This is isn't rocket science. Houses works. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we think about inflation as far as price inflation, so

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<v Speaker 1>the cost of goods and services going up, and per

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<v Speaker 1>the Austrian lens of that, we would say that when

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<v Speaker 1>we increase the money supply, then it increases the price

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<v Speaker 1>of goods and services, which it does, but there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other reasons why prices of goods and services can

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<v Speaker 1>go up as well without increasing the money supply. So

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<v Speaker 1>we have cost push. So when the price of things

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<v Speaker 1>go up, it pushes prices up. It goes without saying

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<v Speaker 1>so when the government imposes a bunch of new regulations

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<v Speaker 1>like E S G for example, and now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to hire a six person consulting team to come into

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<v Speaker 1>my business and charge me hundreds of thousands of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to give me an E S G score, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go spend all this money to meet

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<v Speaker 1>all these E s G requirements. What does that do?

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<v Speaker 1>That increases my costs cost push, which then means I

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<v Speaker 1>have to raise my prices, which is inflationary. So without

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<v Speaker 1>increasing the money supply at all. Government regulations are inflationary.

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<v Speaker 1>They caused price to go up, but they also cause

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<v Speaker 1>growth to come down because that money that I could

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<v Speaker 1>be spending to go into research and development to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with new products, better prices, um past those savings

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<v Speaker 1>onto consumers, come up with new products, more efficient ways

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<v Speaker 1>to make those products. That is, having that money to

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<v Speaker 1>spend that way, Now I have to give it to

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<v Speaker 1>the government. I have to use it to go for

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<v Speaker 1>these regulations that are basically worthless. And so the World

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<v Speaker 1>Bank is projecting uh stagflation, declined growth in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of rising prices, a deadly combination we haven't seen since

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies, when we had fuel rations, when we had wars,

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<v Speaker 1>when we had things like that. And that's about where

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<v Speaker 1>we're headed. Back to um you listening to the Markets show,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the d centralized revolution, talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the world is changing from a centralized, centrally

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<v Speaker 1>planned world to a decentralized world. Being led by bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>and decentralized technology, looking at through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology. Hopefully that makes sense to you. UM, let

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<v Speaker 1>me know what you think. Are you following me on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me up at one Mark Moss at it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the number one Mark Moss. I'm on their way too often.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear questions and comments on there. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me know you hear me on this show. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got more to come back to talking about some big,

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<v Speaker 1>big topics human rights, elicit activity, um, some lawsuits against

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed and more. Don't go away, all right, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to another episode of The Mark Moss

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<v Speaker 1>Show talking about the decentralized revolution, navigating you as the

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<v Speaker 1>world changes. The pendulum swings from centralization to decentralization led

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<v Speaker 1>by bitcoin and the decentralized revolution technology. Now we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the way the world is changing, forecasting things to

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<v Speaker 1>slow down because of the onerous, burdensome regulations that are

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<v Speaker 1>be imposed on and but don't worry. Bitcoin can fix that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we say bitcoin can fix that. Bitcoin can fix

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much anything. Um, which is a way to say

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<v Speaker 1>that if we can fix the money, we can fix

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Um. I saw this article this week was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. Now, if you've been listening to this show

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<v Speaker 1>since I first started, the very first guests I had

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<v Speaker 1>on this show was a friend Alex um Alex Gladstein,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had him on the show because he is

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the Human Rights Foundation. He's a human

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<v Speaker 1>rights advocate, and I had him on the show because

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<v Speaker 1>I said, look, I want to establish the show as

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<v Speaker 1>something that's here to preserve human rights. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>champion human flourishment. I want a champion freedom and liberty,

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<v Speaker 1>those types of things. We're not here to get rich.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not to get rich quick scheme or get rich

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<v Speaker 1>quick show. It's about human rights. And so I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this article this week, I thought it was great, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a human rights advocates tell Congress that bitcoin is

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<v Speaker 1>essential in countries with collapsing currencies. Now collapsing currencies. Currencies

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<v Speaker 1>have been collapsing from the beginning of time. If we

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<v Speaker 1>look at the last hundred years, I believe out of

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<v Speaker 1>the hundreds and hundred, I think maybe five hundred currencies

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<v Speaker 1>in the last one hundred years. Out of all of those,

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<v Speaker 1>only two are still around. Only two. That's the US

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<v Speaker 1>dollar and the British pounds sterling. They're the only two. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the British pounds sterling has lost like eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>its value in the dollar has done much better, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's only lost I think of its value. All the

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<v Speaker 1>other currencies have died. And we're seeing it happen all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So we're seeing in you know, Venezuela twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred percent inflation, which is insane. We're seeing Argentina

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<v Speaker 1>their currency has failed four times. They in just the

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<v Speaker 1>last you know, a couple of decades. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen any of their thirty year bonds ever pay out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're seeing it in Lebanon, We're seeing in Turkey.

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<v Speaker 1>We're seeing it all over the world. These currencies are lapsing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what they're saying is human rights advocates tell

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<v Speaker 1>Congress that bitcoin is essential in these countries with collapsing currencies. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, the US dollar in the British consterlier

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<v Speaker 1>the only two that are left standing. But they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>collapsing too. They've collapped. As a matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>US dollar collapsed against homes in the last two years.

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<v Speaker 1>The US dollar collapsed against used cars in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years, the US dollar is collapsing. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>collapsing nearest bad As, Venezuela, Argentina, Lebanon, Turkey, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But it says here that a week after prominent technologists

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<v Speaker 1>publicly slammed crypto for being too risky and unproven in

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to Congress, now human rights advocates from around

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<v Speaker 1>the world have sent a rebuttal to US lawmakers, defending

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<v Speaker 1>digital assets for the access they provide to people in

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<v Speaker 1>countries where quote, local currencies are collapsing, broken, or cut

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<v Speaker 1>off from the outside world. All right now, um, Some

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one human rights supporters from twenty different countries said

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<v Speaker 1>in the letter that they've relied on bitcoin and stable coins,

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<v Speaker 1>which allow the trading in and out of crypto without

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<v Speaker 1>having to go through a bank, as quote, as have

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<v Speaker 1>tens of millions of others living under authoritarian regimes or

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<v Speaker 1>unstable economies. A couple of things unpack here. So, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, a week after prominent technologists publicly slammed crypto,

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<v Speaker 1>so we um, I like to be very clear about this.

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<v Speaker 1>We like to say bitcoin, not crypto. So um, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a minute. But if we look

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<v Speaker 1>at bitcoins specifically, we can see that these human rights

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<v Speaker 1>advocates to say that tens of millions are living under

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<v Speaker 1>authority term regimes and unstable economies are using bitcoin. So

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<v Speaker 1>what what are they slamming it for? Right? What are

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<v Speaker 1>they slamming it for? Like? What what's so wrong with it?

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<v Speaker 1>What's so wrong with you being able to decide what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to store your wealth in and how you

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<v Speaker 1>want to transact? What's so wrong with that? Um, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look at with us here, but it says uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin has seen increased utility in recent months as people

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<v Speaker 1>from numerous different countries sent tens of millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to Ukraine via crypto payment raility. If I remember that

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<v Speaker 1>all this support for Ukraine when when Russia invaded and

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<v Speaker 1>they raised tens of millions of dollars through cryptocurrency donations,

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<v Speaker 1>how else could you have got that money there? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>With bitcoin? Instant nearly instant and free. You can just

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<v Speaker 1>send it right there. You don't need a bank, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need Western Union, you don't have any of that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in a world worn country that's fallen apart. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the ability to get on a bus and

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<v Speaker 1>go to a bank and get the cash out. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainians that were fleeing the country were able to take

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<v Speaker 1>their money with them in the form of cryptocurrency stored

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<v Speaker 1>on a USB drive. A similar narrative played out in

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan in August when the Tally band took over the

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<v Speaker 1>country and all the banks were closed down. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these technologists that wrote Congress from their very privileged place

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the United States, who have never dealt with

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<v Speaker 1>a crashing economy or I said, say currency although the

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<v Speaker 1>dollars crashing um and have never had to run for

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. I have no idea, and they don't even

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<v Speaker 1>bother to think what other people could be going through. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've traveled around the world and I've seen this firsthand.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had to live it, thank God, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen it firsthand. Now in this Ukraine situation, Ukrainians

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<v Speaker 1>fleeing the country able to take their money with them

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of cryptocurrency. Now, I know people who

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<v Speaker 1>fled Russia, and when they fled Russia, they were only

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<v Speaker 1>allowed I forget, but I think it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars or two dollars per person. So like a

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<v Speaker 1>family of four could bring like four hundred bucks or

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred bucks. That was it all. The rest of

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<v Speaker 1>their money had to stay in Russia. I had friends

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<v Speaker 1>that have come from Afghanistan. I've had friends that came

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<v Speaker 1>from South Africa, and when they came to America, they

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<v Speaker 1>could not bring their money with them. They had to

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<v Speaker 1>come broke. But with bitcoin, they're able to take all

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<v Speaker 1>their money with them, all right, Um, And it says

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<v Speaker 1>here and when in Afghanistan, when the Taliban took over

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<v Speaker 1>the country and the banks were closed down, the banks

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<v Speaker 1>were closed, how could people get your money? Now? From

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<v Speaker 1>these technologists standpoint, they're technologists who know nothing about economics

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<v Speaker 1>or human rights apparently or freedom. Um. They're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's a waste, but it's it's not valuable

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<v Speaker 1>to them, but it's very valuable to the tens of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of people that have been displaced in Ukraine. It

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<v Speaker 1>says bitcoin provides financial inclusion and empowerment because it's open

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<v Speaker 1>and permissionless. We are not they said, We're not industry

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<v Speaker 1>financiers or professional lobbyists. Were humanitarians and democracy advocates who

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<v Speaker 1>use bitcoin to assist people at risk when other options

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<v Speaker 1>have failed, when other options have failed. Um, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is great. You know. One thing is these technologists, they say,

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<v Speaker 1>is that it's too risky. It's too risky. Um, we

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<v Speaker 1>we we need to we need to regulate it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's too risky. Well, too risky compared to what Because

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<v Speaker 1>if if I'm gonna Afghanistan, I'm guaranteed to lose all

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<v Speaker 1>of my purchasing power in six months, is it more

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<v Speaker 1>risky than that if I'm in Lebanon, or if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Turn I'm gonna lose seventy of my purchasing powers,

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<v Speaker 1>it more risky than that? I mean a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the cryptocurrencies are down sixty in US dollar terms right now.

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<v Speaker 1>They are, but they're gonna lose sixty in their own

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<v Speaker 1>currency anyway. So what's their alternative? What's their risk? It's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy from your Ivory tower sitting in America going oh,

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<v Speaker 1>as a technologist, Uh, you know, it's risky. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're facing certain death, when you're facing certain loss of

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<v Speaker 1>all your wealth, you have to try something different. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't get dollars. So what options do you have in

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<v Speaker 1>in in Afghanistan after America pulled out, the Taliban overran

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<v Speaker 1>the banks, took everyone's money. You couldn't send them money

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<v Speaker 1>through Western Union. What options do they have? And bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>is solving these humanitarian problems and this is what it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to change the landscape of the world, from these

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<v Speaker 1>centrally controlled entities into this decentralized world. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Markmall Show. We're talking about, of course Bitcoin, the

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized reveel lution. We are talking about the way that

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<v Speaker 1>the pendulum is swinging back and forth. We're discovering how

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<v Speaker 1>it's solving human rights issues, and a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>just don't understand that, and they have some gripes which

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come back and talk about in a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>So do not go away. I'll be right back. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. You are listening to the Mark ma Show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the decentralized revolution. Is the world changes

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<v Speaker 1>as the pendulum shifts from a world of centrally planned,

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<v Speaker 1>centrally controlled systems and back to a place of more

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<v Speaker 1>freedom and liberty in a decentralized world. Of course, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about bitcoin, talking about politics, finance, technology and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I was talking about before the break, how bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>is solving humanitarian crisis happening all over the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>how a group of technologists got together and said that

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be using it because quote, it has problems,

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<v Speaker 1>the technology isn't very good, and it's it's a culture

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<v Speaker 1>of Slee's rug polls, n f T s in pond

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<v Speaker 1>z s Okay. So they're throwing out every every every

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<v Speaker 1>trick in the book, every excuse in the book why

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad. It's it's not very good. So as a technologist,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's how they describe it, not very good. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we hear other things. Right, bitcoin is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>boil the ocean. Bitcoin uses more energy than a small country. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin is going to destroy the climate. Right, Bitcoin at

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<v Speaker 1>its at its current rate, will take all the energy

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<v Speaker 1>of the entire world. You hear all kinds of things

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<v Speaker 1>like this. Um. One of the things that we've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from Christine Leguard from the I m F. She says

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<v Speaker 1>that it will it's a threat to our financial stability supposedly,

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<v Speaker 1>which I guess it is, because it is disrupting that industry.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that's what new technologies do. New technologies disrupt

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<v Speaker 1>old technologies. It's something called creative destruction. When you create

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<v Speaker 1>something new, it destroys the old way. Digital cameras destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the need for film cameras. Now that was really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were Kodak, you're around for over a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years and now you're out of business. It was really

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<v Speaker 1>bad for Kodak, but it was really good for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us. It was bad for photographers because when you

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<v Speaker 1>had film, it really took skill. It really took a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to be good photographer. Today you have digital cameras

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<v Speaker 1>and they're way easier. So it was bad for some people,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was net gain for other people. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's what new technologies do. And so the big

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<v Speaker 1>point is disrupting the existing financial system. So to Christine

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<v Speaker 1>Leguard from the I m F point, where I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>she's previously i MF now she's with the ECB. But

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<v Speaker 1>to her point, it is disrupting the financial system financial

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<v Speaker 1>stability as it disrupts that. But that's a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be disrupting if it disrupting it. If it

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<v Speaker 1>was worse, people wouldn't have gone to digital cameras instead

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<v Speaker 1>of film cameras if they were worse. They went because

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<v Speaker 1>they were better. Now, typically a new idea needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, not one percent to five percent, not

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<v Speaker 1>even increase in tempts better. It needs to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred needs to be a thousand times better. And

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<v Speaker 1>digital cameras, of course were, and bitcoins a thousand times better.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they can talk about these things. They can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how it's gonna boil the oceans, usual the energy

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. They can talk about One of their

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things is they like to talk about it's used

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<v Speaker 1>for illicit activities. It's only it's only used by by

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<v Speaker 1>drug dealers and criminals. That's it. Okay, So a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things on that. So first of all, I would say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well that kind of proves the use case a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of use cases to bitcoin. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them is that their permission lists, so you don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to fill out an application to use it. Anyone could

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<v Speaker 1>use it as permission list. But the other thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's censorship resistant. Nobody can seize my money and

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can stop or block of transaction. Now that's great

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<v Speaker 1>for criminals because they don't want their money sees and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want someone to stop her block of transaction.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great for criminals. So by saying that, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of proving the use case. But there's other reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why you want to do that maybe aren't criminal. So

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if you live in Afghanistan when the United

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<v Speaker 1>States just bailed on you, and now the Taliband is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to seize your money, wouldn't you like to have

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<v Speaker 1>money that couldn't be seized by the Taliband? And if

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to send somebody money from the United States

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<v Speaker 1>to Afghanistan to help them out because they're starving to

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<v Speaker 1>death and I wanted to send them money, wouldn't I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to get the money that couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be seized. So one man is a criminal, another man

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<v Speaker 1>is saving his life. It's a tool, right tools can

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<v Speaker 1>be used for good and bad. Screw driver in the

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<v Speaker 1>right hands, could you know, fix a car. In the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong hands, they could do some serious harm to somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's a tool. But how much of this

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<v Speaker 1>tool is really being used to harm people? That's the

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<v Speaker 1>question because they love to throw the stat out. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there's a company called Chain Analysis, and what she Analysis

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<v Speaker 1>does is they have the software you know, artificial intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look at all the on Chaine data. So

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things with bitcoin is an open source network,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we can see all the on Chaine data.

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<v Speaker 1>We can see when bitcoin moves from crypto, moves from

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<v Speaker 1>one wallet to the next, and then through AI they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put all these wallets together and they can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of monitor all this. It's not perfect, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it works okay. And so they monitor this and they've

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<v Speaker 1>been measuring bitcoins at legal activity and uh what they've

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<v Speaker 1>said now they just put out this new report, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have the report, and a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to twist this around because the illegal

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<v Speaker 1>activity with bitcoin has gone up. Sounds really bad, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I could write that headline, Um, bitcoin's use of illicit

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<v Speaker 1>activity goes higher, more people are using bitcoin for elicit

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<v Speaker 1>activity than ever before. We could write the headlines that way,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's somewhat true, factually true, but it's misleading a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of fact. If I read this here, it says

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<v Speaker 1>a legal activity in cybergrime are a shrinking part of

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<v Speaker 1>the crypto economy. According to research from blockchain and analytics

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<v Speaker 1>firm Chain Analysis, the percentage of a legal activity fell

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<v Speaker 1>to just zero point one point five percent of the

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<v Speaker 1>total transaction volume in two thousand one, even as the

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<v Speaker 1>total value rose to a new high. So the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of activity that was used for a list of activities

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>actually did rise to a new high, but as a

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of all activity, it actually dropped to a new load.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? So if if if there was

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<v Speaker 1>only one use case of bitcoin, only only one transaction ever,

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and it was used for something to listed, then a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the transactions, were you right? So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very small sample size. So what we're seeing is

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<v Speaker 1>that more volumes being used, more transactions are being done. Um,

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>so of course the percentage I'm sorry, the number of

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<v Speaker 1>illegal transactions would also go up. However, as a as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole, the percentage has actually gone down, And I

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.920
<v Speaker 1>think that's a big important part. And so now you

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<v Speaker 1>know when they started trying to twist this around. You

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 1>have to look through this because I could easily write

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 1>this headline to tell you whatever story I want. But

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the fact is the amount of legal activity is an

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly smaller part of the crypto economy. Although the popularity

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies increased sharply in the proportion

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of transactions to address related to legal activity increased significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so it's going down. Now that's uh, that's bitcoin.

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>They want to tell you that it's only used to

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<v Speaker 1>do wrong, that it's only used by criminals, um, et cetera.

0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Now do fiet. What about the banking system? Right, so

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 1>the banking system is heavily regulated. Obviously they can control that.

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And the banking system. They have something called a m

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<v Speaker 1>L it's anti money laundering. They have something called k

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<v Speaker 1>y C no your customer, and so banks have to

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<v Speaker 1>adhere to these a m L Anti money laundering UM regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things they do so, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the bank and try to withdraw you know,

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>more than ten thousand dollars, you have to fill out

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>forms that's a star's reports, Suspicious Activity Report. There's lots

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>of things they have to do. Well, if we look

0:26:03.080 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>at that, we can see that financial institutions that lack

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>compliance and due diligence, who were already find a staggering

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:14.959
<v Speaker 1>two point seven billion dollars in two thousand twenty one

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>according to an a mL fins one report. Who were

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>some of these big people that paid out big fines

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>will Capital One. Capital One paid out almost four hundred

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in fines because the U. S. Department of Treasuries,

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>FINS and Financial Crimes Enforcement Network carried out actions against

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>them for violating the Bank Secrecy Act. Check Cashier's failed

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to report suspicious activity despite knowing of criminal charges against

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>specific customers, including organized crime syndicate. So they paid out

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>almost four hundred million dollars in fines for helping what

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 1>they already knew as an organized crime syndicate. But it's

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 1>all bitcoin that's bad, right or deut Deutsche Bank hundred

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty million the Internet turned into a three year deferred

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>prosecution agreement with US Attorney's Office find A hundred thirty

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>millions for violations UM involved in commodities fraud scheme. The

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>scheme to conceal bribes and manipulate commodities trading involving publicly

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>traded precious metals included senior executives who knowingly and willingly

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>conspired in falsifying payments to the balance books. So the

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.679
<v Speaker 1>banking system is complicit. They know what they're doing. Bitcoin

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 1>is just a protocol. Nobody knows it's a tool, right.

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>These are banks that are actively helping people. It's insane.

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You listen to the Mark Moa show. We're talking about

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the Decentralized Revolution, talking about how bitcoin is changing the

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:40.959
<v Speaker 1>world and how they're throwing a lot of food at

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it like it's used for list activities, but it's really

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the banks. I'll be back with that and more in

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a minute, So do not go away, all right, welcome back.

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Mark mo Show talking about

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 1>the Decentralized Revolution. Of course we're talking about bitcoin, and

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>we're looking at politics, finance, and technologies to see as

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 1>the world is changing right before our very eyes. And

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of course this is a it's a transition, and it's

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>not a smooth transition. As we go from the essentially

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>planned economies to more free, fair, liberty focused, freedom loving,

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 1>decentralized world. The old system doesn't want to give up power,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 1>and of course it's fighting a new system, and so

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>we see this all over the place. We are talking

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>about how they're trying to say that bitcoin is used

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 1>for illicit transactions, but really it's the banking system that's

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>used for ellicit transactions, knowingly and willingly um enabling organized

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>crime and fraud and these banks have paid out big finds.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 1>A matter of fact, Bank of America has paid out

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>seven since the great financial crash. Bank of America has

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>paid out seventy six billion, the b seventy six billion

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>dollars in fines, seventy six billion, JP Morgan's forty three

0:28:55.800 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in fines. I mean, that's just in sane now.

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Actually this is an old article, so it's probably paid

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>out even way more since then. But it goes even

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>deeper than this. There's an article that just broke this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Bitcoin Bank Custody Custodia sued the Federal Reserve, the central

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>banking the United States. They sue the Follower Reserve demanding

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>decision on a master account. So all the banks of

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the world have to have a charter with the Federal Reserve.

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 1>So I was at a conference UM in the beginning

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 1>this year in January, and I was on a panel

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>with UM. One of the leading professor, Richard Werner, one

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>of the leading voices, talking about central banks, and he

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>was saying how there's a big problem of all the

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>centralization of banks, and what we need is we need

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to keep the banks decentralized, which of course I agree

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>with And I said great, you know, um, so how

0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>do we achieve that? I asked him that question and

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they said, well, easy, just more people need to go

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>open up banks. If only it was that easy. And

0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a story to tell you that it's not

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that easy, be because you have to get permission from

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve to open a bank. And that's exactly

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. So we see Bitcoin Bank Custodia today sued

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Reserve

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Bank of Kansas City, charging they have unlawfully broken the law.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 1>They're saying they broke the law unlawfully delayed for nineteen

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 1>months acting on its application for a master account with

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the Federal Reserve. So the bank, let's follow all the paperwork.

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>They've done everything proper and they're supposed to get a

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>response from the Foedo Reserve about their application for this

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>master account to have a bank. Now they're charging they've

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>been unlawfully delayed for nineteen months. The Bank Custodia is

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>charted in Wyoming under a crypto friendly statute passed in

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen allowing for quote special purpose depository institutions, and

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>they say, the master account would reduce its costs and

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it's vital to its core mission of providing a bridge

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>between digital assets in the US dollar. Now, according to

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>the suit, the Federal Reserve has a legal obligation to

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<v Speaker 1>act within a year and states on its own paperwork

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that ordinarily takes just five to seven days to act

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 1>on a master account application. So there it says in

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>their own words, it typically takes a couple of days,

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but legally they have an obligation to act within a year.

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.840
<v Speaker 1>But they've been sitting on this for over nineteen months.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a big problem. So, uh, this old system does

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>not want to go willingly, and they're going to continue

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to throw up roadblocks every chance they get. But of

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>course Custodia is not going to sit back and take this,

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>so they filed the lawsuit. They led to the Kansas

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>citys FED. Processing of its application was moving along until

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 1>the spring of when the main Federal Reserve got involved.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.959
<v Speaker 1>So Kansas City feder was actually processing that things were

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>going along good, but then the main Federal Reserve got

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 1>involved and then something happened. What was that, Well, the

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>seat The suit seeks to force the Federal Reserve and

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Branch to act on its applic cation

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately to approve it. Should Custodia win, which I'm

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>rooting for them. I think you are too right. We're

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 1>all rooting for them against the small guy, against the

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>big guy, the United States. We love the we love

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the underdog, we love the David and Glass story here,

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and ultimately we want to stick it to the central banks. Uh.

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Should Custodia win a suit or otherwise we granted a

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>master account, it would be the first bitcoin bank to

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>gain one. Custodia Bank was founded by Morgan Stanley, veteran Caton,

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and Caitlin long In under the name Avante Financial Group.

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Um and uh, she is a beast. She came onto

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin scene. She's you know, been in the financial

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 1>space for a really long time. Really started talking about

0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 1>something that really brought a front and center, at least

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to me and a lot of other people, which was

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>something called re hypothecation. Is something that these financial institutions do.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And so what is rehypothecation? So what does that mean

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>is that let me, let me, let me make it simple.

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>If I had, if I had, if I had a

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>candy bar, and I gave it to this person. Now

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>he would give me an IOU that he owed me

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that andy bar. So he's got one candy bar. I

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>have an isoue that I'm owed a candy bar. But

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>let's say that now he gives that candy bar to

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>person number two and gets an ioue. So now there's

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 1>still one candy bar. But now one person has a

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>candy bar, and then there's an iou for person one,

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and I have an isue. So now there's basically three

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>candy bars, but really only one candy bar. And then

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>person number two gives it the person number three and

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>then gives the person number four, Person number five, person

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>number six. So now person number six has the candy bar,

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>and five four three to one and myself only have

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>an IOU. That means there's seven candy bars in the system,

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>but there's only one physical candy bar. Now what's the

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>problem with that. Well, all of us think we're wealthy,

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>all of us think we have a candy bar. The

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>reality is there's only one candy bar. Now what happens

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>if person number six eats that candy bar, Well, now

0:33:55.840 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>seven candy bars disappear. Seven candy bars are gone. Because

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>one person ate a candy bar. That's rehypothecation. That's a

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>big problem. It sounds like a problem, doesn't it. That's

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>what they do with your financial assets. And so you

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>put your money in the bank and then they give

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 1>it to someone else, or your stock in your account.

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't own that stock. What you have is an

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>IOU and then that's a rehypothecated to the next person,

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to the next person, the next person, the next person.

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>So these assets grow exponentially through this debt process. The

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 1>problem is the system gets over levered, so we don't

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>really know exactly. It's it's a rumored to have about

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>somewhere between three too maybe up to five hundred paper

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>ounces of gold claims on announce of gold for everyone

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 1>real physical ounce. So a lot of people, maybe five

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>people or four d nine think they own ann ounce

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>of gold, but they don't because it's really only one.

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>That's a big process. That's re hypothication. She she kind

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>of had really brought that front center to me, and

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a big problem in the system. Because stoo page

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>suit lists eight claims for relief, so there's eight different

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>way is that they would like to have relief here

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>um or ways the FED could potentially resolve the case.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>The first claim raises they broader issue regarding the function

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.400
<v Speaker 1>of the individual federals or banks and whether they are

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>subject to rules for federal agencies. So, um, what I

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>love about this is it's taking it to the entire

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve banking system and changing the way it works.

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's watching to see what's going to happen. Of course,

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City branch of the Fedower Reserve declined to comment.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>They don't even want to know anything about it, um,

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and they just don't really want to get involved. But

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>kudos to Caitlin for taking this to taking this fight

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>to them. I wouldn't want to be on the other

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>side of it. And now this is coming from Wyoming,

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because at the same time we saw

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Senator Cynthia loomas Um from Wyoming submitted bill just this

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>week into the Senate for more clarity on bitcoin and cryptocurrency,

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>which was pretty cool. So she introduced this bill um

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.439
<v Speaker 1>that basically would put some things into law that would

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.320
<v Speaker 1>prohibit the government from from encroaching on this. One of

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>them would be to repeal some of the taxes that

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>are levied against it. So she had a bill that

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>would take away capital gains tax up to two hundred dollars,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and that really help us get to a point where

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we could spend bitcoin more as a medium of exchange

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 1>without having to pay tax and everything. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to use it to get a cup of coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I talked about last week. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>to Chipotle now and you could spend your bitcoin, but

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do that because that's a taxable event.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they could get reduced below two d threshold,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to Chippotle, you can buy your coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy a burger, things like that. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see. Wyoming is kind of at the forefront

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<v Speaker 1>of this freedom movement, freedom to transact. Without the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>to transact, there is no freedom at all. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they're pioneering this ability to transact with whatever currency want

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<v Speaker 1>and to store our wealth in whatever they want at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. So let's go Caitlin, and let's go

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia Loomis and Wyoming. With that, you listen to the

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Ball Show, we're talking about the decentralized revolution, talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the way the world UH is seeing the pendulum

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<v Speaker 1>shift from centralization to decentralization. Of course, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin and we're looking at through the lens of politics, finance,

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<v Speaker 1>and technology. Hopefully you got some value out of these

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