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Speaker 2: we have a very special guest. Okay, very very special guest.

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Speaker 2: Nicole Ray is a seer, shadow worker, and intuitive creator

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Speaker 2: that reveals the duality of life, people, and existence with

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Speaker 2: simultaneously integrating the unseen aspects of existence that the common

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Speaker 2: man often chooses to deny because it defies logic and

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Speaker 2: of heart, so if you're brave, be sure to check

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Speaker 2: it out. No Cole, welcome to her space.

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Speaker 5: Hi everyone, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: We are so excited to jump into this conversation today. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so lady, get ready. You might want to pull out

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Speaker 2: your notepad. Nicole as a teacher and healer over here,

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Speaker 4: Okay, so our quote of the day. Only in a

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Speaker 4: on your evolution and be punished for merely existing, Nicole,

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Speaker 3: which is actually where I'm at Terry, and that was crazy.

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Speaker 3: But he's an Indian guru and he's more so psycho

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Speaker 3: very very very taboo like myself. Like a lot of

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Speaker 5: So you know, that's pretty much my background. In a nutshell.

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Speaker 5: You know. When we went out, there were like eighty dollars.

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Speaker 3: So it's not the typical relocation story.

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Speaker 5: We would go to local fruit stands.

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Speaker 3: There was just so much abundance of fruits that it

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Speaker 3: So it wasn't that hard unless I wanted to sustain

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Speaker 5: Wow, that's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I have a few questions, but I'm going to try

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Speaker 2: to stay focused here, Cole, because you seek a lot

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Speaker 5: Let me know I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: But like your relationship with possessions may have changed over time.

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: It was interesting because I feel like when you first

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Speaker 5: Or I'm gonna wear the most.

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Speaker 5: I've never been like that per se. But I've always

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Speaker 3: And in my relationship with my ex, he was very

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Speaker 3: guise of we're minimalists, we're not vanity driven, we're not materialistic,

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Speaker 4: But no, like I think you did answer the question,

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Speaker 4: you're sharing with us, and I appreciate you inviting us

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Speaker 3: One thing I also could add is that with material things,

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Speaker 3: I hope you guys in piece together how different it is.

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Speaker 3: But it just changes a lot of little subtle things

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Speaker 4: Yes, And so what I'm curious about is, as you

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Speaker 4: those things. Right, So in a moment when my dishwasher

437
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 4: isn't working well, I can.

438
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,160
Speaker 7: Wash my dishes by hand, all of them.

439
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 5: It's not a big deal, you know.

440
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 4: And so what I'm curious about is how long has

441
00:20:53,840 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 4: it been since you left the States, and what are

442
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 4: some of the other misconceptions because you've mentioned quite a

443
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 4: few already, right just naturally as you were talking, But

444
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 4: what are some of the other misconceptions that people have

445
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 4: about living in the tropics or living somewhere outside of

446
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 4: the States.

447
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so I believe I moved to Costa Rica in

448
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: two thousand and sixteen. Yeah, it was twenty and sixteen,

449
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: sometime around there, because I had my son in twenty eighteen.

450
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: But I was back and forth because again I didn't plan,

451
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: I didn't save, so there were very much times where

452
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, this is and whek, and I gotta go.

453
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 3: But I did a long stride when I first left,

454
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 3: Like it was a long stride. And then I got

455
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: pregnant and I needed more support than that of which

456
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: my son's dad was offering me, and I didn't have

457
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: that many friends yet. So I went back to the

458
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: States and spent the majority of my pregnancy in the States,

459
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 3: and when I hit eight months, I went back to

460
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: Costa Rica and I spent another long stride there. So

461
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: I did a lot of back and forth. But it

462
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 3: started in two thousand and sixteen. Now there are two

463
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: types of expats, and this is something I've been talking

464
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: about recently because I created a PDF for quote unquote

465
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: unprivileged people to relocate to the tropics, because I want

466
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: them to understand that everybody always goes into these tangents

467
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: about talking about Africa and our roots and our ancestors

468
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: where we come from. What they used to do a

469
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 3: da da da da da da. But nobody's implementing that

470
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: stuff into their day to day life as is, you know.

471
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 3: And that's a huge culture shock when you get to

472
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 3: the tropics, like some of the things I was already

473
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: sharing with you. So for instance, there are people that

474
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: and this is not a race or culture thing. These

475
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 3: are just this is just a familial where did you

476
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: come from and what were you able to do? So

477
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: some people they relocate to the tropics. They they're living

478
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: off of a parent's inheritance, or they grow up in money,

479
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 3: they grow up wealthy, so they buy a plot of land,

480
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: they visit, they scope it out, they get a house built,

481
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 3: They bring their whole entire life from their country of origin.

482
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 3: They come to that country, they have a baby there,

483
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 3: or they invest one of the residency requirements they need it,

484
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: they go through the residency process and they actually fully

485
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: relocate and then they just live like they were living

486
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: wherever they were before, and there's nothing has changed but

487
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 3: the environment now. They are little cultural things that might

488
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: shift depending on how much you want to vent yourself.

489
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 3: But with us unprivileged people that don't come for money

490
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: and don't have it like that, or don't have any

491
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: family there or a person to help guide us, or

492
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: don't have the immediate third dimensional means to go and

493
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: visit and figure things out or whatever. Like, if I

494
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: had to generalize it, I would just say, it's not impossible,

495
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: Like your journey ends up unfolding based off of the

496
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 3: life that you're already living and how you already believe

497
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: the world to be set up, and sometimes you might

498
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: even surprise yourself when you get there. I mean when

499
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: I got to like, I didn't have any nervous meltdowns

500
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 3: until I got to the house. When I got off

501
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,959
Speaker 3: the plane, I wasn't nervous getting on the plane. I

502
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 3: wasn't nervous on the plane. I wasn't nervous on the

503
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: three hour car ride to the house. It wasn't until

504
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: I got to the house and I took my first

505
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: breath and I looked around, and I had a meltdown

506
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: right there because I noticed that if anything happened, I

507
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: don't have family around the corner. I don't know this

508
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: girl right here, And for some reason, I just hadn't

509
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 3: thought about any of it all. This time, I'm with

510
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: my partners, just me and him. We don't have any money.

511
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: It was just bogus. Like for the first time, I

512
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 3: was like, yo, I'm wildin like this that went too

513
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: far this time.

514
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 5: But it was just like a day by day thing.

515
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 5: You know.

516
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: We live life in America, planning for weeks for months. Oh,

517
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: this is my schedule, this is what I'm doing at

518
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: this time, this time, that time. So I guess the

519
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 3: largest misconception, if I were to kind of because I

520
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: could go on and on and on again, would be

521
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: like how different reality is when you exist on the

522
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: outskirts of time. It's very different if you like to

523
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: view the world within the matrix construct, like if you

524
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: say the America is the matrix or you know this

525
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: is a fake world or not not a real reality,

526
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: Like there's no matrix when you get to the bush.

527
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about like the inner city. I'm talking

528
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: about when you get to the bush where there's just

529
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: plant life in jungle, that matrix construct is not there.

530
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: So time is different, the frequency is different, the rate

531
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: by which you are shown yourself is different, Like there

532
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 3: might be a little glitch in the matrix here and

533
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: there in America where you might be on your way

534
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: to work and somebody spills coffee all over you. You'll

535
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: be like, that never happens to me, what's going on?

536
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: You'll be flustered because your day's pretty smooth and predictable. Right,

537
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: That's like the glitch and the matrix. Every day is

538
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: like that in the tropics. So the largest misconception is

539
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 3: that you're going to have control over your experience. You're

540
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: not going to have control. Your subconscious is going to

541
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: take over. Your vices that you may not have been

542
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 3: aware of are going to take the forefront. Your insecurities

543
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: are going to be painfully apparent. Your temperament, your addictions,

544
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 3: your demons, your darkness, all that stuff.

545
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 5: Is just going to be like, hey girl, we missed you.

546
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 5: Where you've been.

547
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: That's the first thing that happens. And I think that's

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: the largest misconception. They think that they're going to come

549
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: out there, it's going to be coconuts and sunshine, the beach,

550
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: the jungle, the all. They're going to be bugs that

551
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,719
Speaker 3: are half the size of your hand, if not bigger.

552
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: There are gonna be monkeys in your backyard. They are

553
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: gonna be jaguars in the mountain. They're gonna be There's

554
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: gonna be things that you don't plan for.

555
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 5: And like there's been a.

556
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: Girl even one time she wanted to rent my house

557
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: in Costa Rica, and I said, hey, listen, this is

558
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: not I know it's pretty when you see me online

559
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 3: and stuff, but this is I live in the jungle.

560
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: I live tucked away in the jungle. So I live

561
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: a lot with a lot of animals. I don't have

562
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: screens on my windows. I live in a rustic cabin.

563
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: Anything can get in my house. My roof is not closed.

564
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 3: Anything can crawl in here, snakes, whatever. That's just something

565
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: I would deal with moment to moment.

566
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 5: And she was like, oh no, girl, it's fine.

567
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 3: She didn't last a week. She was right back in

568
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: the state, in the middle of the pandemic, and I said,

569
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: why are you leave it. It's a pandemic, girl, you

570
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: be safer out there. She said, I gotta go back

571
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: to the States. She made up all this stuff, but

572
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: I was like, this is what I'm saying. Like she

573
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: thought she was gonna come. She did enjoy the beach,

574
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: and she took her pictures and drank of coconuts, and

575
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: had her fruits, but she couldn't live out there. She

576
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 3: couldn't deal with the reality that she was just that

577
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 3: far removed from nature.

578
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: And that's scared of it.

579
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: Like when I first got to the drops, I killed

580
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 3: everything in sight and they just kept coming back there

581
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: you couldn't kill. I would kill an army of ants

582
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: and they would just be another army there. Like you

583
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 3: can kill, You'll be killing nature every single day if

584
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: you really try to control that. So it has to

585
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: get more specific than that. If you can, because it's

586
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: so many different pockets I can dip into. It's insane.

587
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: Well, let's dip into that pocket with the animals, Like,

588
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 4: how do you because I think that's real of as humans,

589
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 4: we are part of an ecosystem and animals are part

590
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: of that ecosystem. And how we are trained to live

591
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: I say trained, but you know, socialized to live in

592
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 4: industrialized countries is that unless it's a pet, it's not

593
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: welcome in our home right and unless it's in the zoo,

594
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: then the animals should be killed, right, like the the

595
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: lungs in the zoo. That's the way we've been socialized.

596
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 5: And so you're saying that.

597
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: You moved to Costa Rica. You moved to Honduras, and

598
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 4: you're in a space of all, right, let me figure

599
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: out how we coexist. So I need to know how

600
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: did you get from that place of being that American

601
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 4: who's scared of the animals to now I am going

602
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: to coexist with what's around me.

603
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 5: Oh girl, man, that journey was insane.

604
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean when I first got there, like I told

605
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 3: you guys, I was killing everything that I saw, and

606
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: they just kept coming back by the number. I mean

607
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: I was in their domain and I didn't even realize it.

608
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 3: I was like, this is my house. So my landlord

609
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: was like, you know, she was used to an American clients,

610
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: so she's like, we can come spray, and then she sprayed.

611
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: This is my first lesson in killing insects. She sprayed,

612
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: and then literally everything that came to my porch died.

613
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 5: So I woke up.

614
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: One morning and there were millions of insects dead, and

615
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, and I was like, what have

616
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: I done? Like and I broke down crying. I mean,

617
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: big beautiful crickets, dragonflies, purple cre like all these exotic bugs.

618
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: They were just minding their business and were hit with

619
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: that pesticide and dropped the geckos that lived in my house.

620
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: They were dead, like everything that was I just after that,

621
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: I really didn't kill anything since unless it was a mosquito. Right,

622
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: So then when I moved to a couple other houses,

623
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: they weren't that bad. It was the basics. Maybe a

624
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: small spider or two a mosquito. Every house in the

625
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: tropics has geckos. Everywhere. I live with geckos. Now, they're everywhere.

626
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: They dropped shit on my bed. They're shitting everywhere. Is

627
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: like having a pet. But they eat the mosquito, so

628
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: that's a perk. And so I got used to that.

629
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: You know, I find their eggs somewhere. I try not

630
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: to step on them. I've crushed them a few times

631
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: because they lay them in weird places like my underwear.

632
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: And then I shake them and then there's eggs. It gets,

633
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: you know, odd, but they're cool. And then I moved

634
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: in a couple of houses. Now there was this one

635
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: house in Costa Rica. This is probably the deepest in

636
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: the jungle and the most open that I've ever lived.

637
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: And I saw the house and there were no walls.

638
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: It was just opened like this. It was just open

639
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: like this wide. Shoot, what could I compare it to,

640
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: like maybe even like my kneecap to my ankle. Sense,

641
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: this isn't on video. It was that wide and anything

642
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: could get I mean a freaking animal could get in.

643
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 5: Forget a flying thing. Right.

644
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: So I looked at the house and my son's dad

645
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: was like, she's not gonna move in here, and I

646
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 3: was like, how much you want to bet?

647
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 5: Right?

648
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: And I'm a new mom at the time. My son

649
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: is like one month and but the house was beautiful,

650
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: Like the architecture was like insane, like the way he

651
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 3: built it, like the wood.

652
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: It was beautiful. But it was.

653
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: Open, more open than my little rustic cabin that I

654
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: just described to you guys. But this was my self

655
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: induced initiation back into nature. And I was like, you

656
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 3: know what, I'm going to move in here.

657
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 5: I don't care.

658
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: And he said that no one ever rented that house

659
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: because it was too open and men were petrified that

660
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: snakes would get in and whatever. So I'm moving now.

661
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: In the tropics, you typically have a mosquit on net now.

662
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: I haven't had to have one since I've been in

663
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: Honduraspinning Costa Rica.

664
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: You need a mosquit on net over your bed. It

665
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: kind of looks like a canopy.

666
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 3: I moved in and I had my first night.

667
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: You know. I set up my low essential oils diffuser and.

668
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 3: I cut off the light and then I closed my

669
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 3: eyes for a second. I open my eyes. There are

670
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: fifty bugs on my mosquito net. And I'm just in

671
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: the net, like I mean, like they're like seven praying

672
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: mantises that are like bigger than what you see on TV.

673
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: There's these big beetle bugs. They are the flying roaches.

674
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: They're birds flying in and out of my bedroom or backs.

675
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: They're just going crazy and they're loving this light because

676
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: nobody else uses lights because they're they're in touch with

677
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: their circadian rhythms, so when the sun goes down, they

678
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: go to sleep. I'm the only one this up because

679
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm used to living in America. So the bugs are

680
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: just like, oh we up, then we shoot, we up,

681
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: so they up with me. I'm petrified, so.

682
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 5: Now I can't. I don't at the house. I wasn't

683
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: even using the bathroom at night.

684
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: My son's dad, he didn't tell me at the time,

685
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: but he said that he saw a tarantia in the house.

686
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 3: I would go to the bathroom, there would be frogs

687
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: all over the floor. I'm like, where are you guys

688
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 3: coming from? You know, And it was just it was

689
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: just absurd every day, like it was a new inspect

690
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: that I had never seen before that I could not identify,

691
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: or an insect that I didn't even know grew that big.

692
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I saw purple crickets that were the size of my hand,

693
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's pretty, But when did.

694
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: You come out? Like what addition is this?

695
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: And every morning I kind of got used to like this.

696
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: One bird was flying and he would run into the

697
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: door because he was just trying to fly. And that

698
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: was a good thing though, like since it was so open,

699
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: they wouldn't get stuck in the house. They would just

700
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 3: pass through. But they were still passing through. So all

701
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: these birds, some birds ran into me. I'd be walking past,

702
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: they just flying through. It was bogus.

703
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 5: And there were a lot of mosquitoes in that house

704
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 5: as well.

705
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: But that was my initiation, and I had so much

706
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: anxiety and so much fear, and I couldn't care. And

707
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: even if I wanted to kill these bugs, they looked

708
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: so confident in their mug life that they weren't.

709
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: Running from me. They were like, should run because this

710
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 5: is you know, so that was my biggest thing.

711
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: And after that house, I pretty much wasn't scared of

712
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: anything like not flying roaches, not.

713
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: I wasn't scared of anything.

714
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: Like you really have to come hard for me to

715
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: be like, oh no, not kill that, or I got

716
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: to get out of here.

717
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: That is intense. That was that is super intense, and

718
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: I'm just.

719
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get an attacked by an insect or

720
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: animal of any sort to Honduras. I got stung by scorpion,

721
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: but none of them attacking in Coasta, Rica, which I

722
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: found surprising because I was their.

723
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Initiation is the perfect word to use for that experience,

724
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: because like, if some people are just not built for

725
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: that at this point in life, I'm not, but you know,

726
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: you can always aspire to build up to those things.

727
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: One thing I do want to ask about because I

728
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: love to tune into Nicole's lives. Okay, if you have

729
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: never tuned into her Instagram lives, they are so entertaining. Literally,

730
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: I will tune in and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna

731
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: only listen for five minutes, and I end up tuning

732
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: in for the whole hour, they're so good, so entertaining.

733
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: And one thing you talked about recently, you talked about

734
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: folks relocating with this grand division of mind only to

735
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 2: find out that it's the same shit that they had

736
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: at home, right if they don't come with like a

737
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: goal on mine. You talk about their spiritual journey and

738
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: you talked about shadow work, and so when you think about,

739
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: you know, relocating with this goal in mind, like, what

740
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 2: are the things that came up for you around shadow

741
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: work and your spirituality as you were on that journey

742
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: and like you said, you're subconscious your demons. Everybody's like,

743
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: hey girl, we've been waiting, right, it's quiet, you're not

744
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: in the matrix.

745
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: Now we can get to you. What has that journey

746
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: been like?

747
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, before I was even calling a shadow work,

748
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: I was just a flat out psychopath like man, it

749
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: was like everybody's demons came out.

750
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 5: To play like it and we couldn't even help it.

751
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm trying to, I guess, push the

752
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: reality of shadow work so hard because there are a

753
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: lot of people online calling themselves shadow workers, but they're

754
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 3: still passive, aggressive, and they still won't show you their

755
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: shadow aspects. They're afraid of your shadow aspects, and they

756
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: don't want to argue. They don't want any dissonance, they

757
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: don't want any conflict. And I'm like, you literally need

758
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: conflict to do shadow work.

759
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: That's the pit of it.

760
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: So for instance, when we were in Costa Rica, we

761
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: were having like a lot of quarrels. Like it was

762
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: me and my son's dad and a couple of friends

763
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: that were living with us, and we had so many big,

764
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: drawn out fights.

765
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: I'm surprised nobody called the cops.

766
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: But it was just like chaotic, and not even over

767
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: anything crazy. It was just repressed rage, repressed insecurity, repressed anger,

768
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: repressed disgust, repress things that maybe in America we were

769
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: distracted enough to keep at bay, but in the Tropics

770
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, game time. So everybody's feelings started

771
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: to come out, how they really felt, what they really thought,

772
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: how they really behaved, Like you couldn't stuff it away,

773
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: And it was like, I love chaos, so I didn't

774
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: really shy away from that, whereas other people were like, yo,

775
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: I gotta get out of here, thinking that is the tropics,

776
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: when it was them. So I guess the reason that

777
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: I ended up being in this journey. The way that

778
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: I am is that I was never really running from

779
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: that chaos or that feeling of danger. I mean, I mean,

780
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: there was one situation where we had all gotten such

781
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: a big, crazy argument, like I let off so much,

782
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: I exercised so.

783
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 5: Many of my demons.

784
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 3: I walked outside and I didn't know who I was,

785
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: and I didn't know where I was, and I was

786
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 3: just outside aloof and I was very confused till my

787
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: friend came out and was like, Oh, what you doing.

788
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 5: And I was like huh.

789
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: And I was just like out in the middle of

790
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: the street, like I had never been so empty inside,

791
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: like clear that I had nothing. There was no ego,

792
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: there was nothing to cling to, Like everything that I

793
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 3: could have been hiding or tucking away or building a

794
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 3: facide around it was just gone. So I was like, Wow,

795
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 3: this is a clear space. And that's when I discovered

796
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: my zero point. So now when I do shadow work,

797
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 3: I know what my zero point feels. Like most people

798
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: in the States that have anger issues, drug issues, addiction issues,

799
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: call dependencies.

800
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: They don't know their zero point.

801
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: This is when you hear about men abusing women or

802
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: people killing people, people killing themselves, people harming other people,

803
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: people fighting. They don't know their zero points, so they

804
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: don't even understand that that's a repressed part of themselves.

805
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 5: They're just impulsive and reactive.

806
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: But usually when I'm doing shadow work, whether it be

807
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: a deliberate session with myself not involved them, or if

808
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 3: it is involving people now at least whereas before it

809
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: would just be an argument, and then I would just

810
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: keep my findings to myself because I would sound absolutely

811
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: out of my mind. Now I'm like, Okay, this is

812
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: what's happening. I know what part of my childhood this

813
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 3: comes from. I know why she's angry. I know what

814
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: you're triggering. I know what you're triggering inside of yourself.

815
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: But that's not my business. And I'm going to use

816
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 3: this to better navigate my internal world so that I'm

817
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: not a victim to it and so that I'm not

818
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: repressing it and acting crazy all of the time or

819
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: snapping all of the time. Like You'll be surprised how

820
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: many of your behaviors and eating habits and sleeping habits

821
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: and anxiety and depression and thought like suicidal thoughts, psychotic

822
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: thoughts ever been on the top of a building and

823
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: something in your head just as jump. Like people tell

824
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: me that that happens all the time, and I'm the

825
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: first one that said it out loud, and they were like, yeah,

826
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: there's times where I'm like on a rooftop and I

827
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 3: look down and something just tells me jump off the roof.

828
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: You know, this is like shadow stuff, Like you're inner

829
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: child being so trapped in the furthest corner of your

830
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: side that she's like, yo, please just kill us because

831
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: you're going to keep me locked in here for the

832
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: rest of your adult life.

833
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 5: And I don't think I want that for us, so

834
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 5: you know, let's just kill ourselves.

835
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: But there's no emotional discrepancy there. So people are like, no,

836
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 3: that's not my thought, but it is, you know, I.

837
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 4: Think, Terry, I think we have the same question of

838
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: you're mentioning shadow work, and I know that a lot

839
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: of our listeners might not know exactly what that means,

840
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: So can you tell us, like, what exactly is shadow work?

841
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 3: Shadow work is pretty much inner child work. So all

842
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: of us have an inner child right now, from the

843
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: age of maybe when you're in the womb to about

844
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: seven years old. Everything that happens in between that time

845
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: is severely programming you. These are where your beliefs are built.

846
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: This is where your security is established. This is where

847
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: your power, emotional security, sexual security is established.

848
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 5: All that stuff the lower chokers, if you will.

849
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of you guys are familiar

850
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: with the chakra systems, but it's the root chakra, the

851
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: sacral chopper of the soul plexes and up until the

852
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 3: heart chakra.

853
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 5: That's the window where those are developed.

854
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: Right, So in that time, certain things might happen in

855
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: your childhood that will cause you to repress those things

856
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 3: that are supposed to be in power.

857
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 5: Let's call them birthrights.

858
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: Right, so your root shock will be the right to

859
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: be here, the right to have, or your sacle shock

860
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: will be the right to feel and the right the

861
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: right to want or desire, and then your solar plexus

862
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: will be the right to your willpower, your right to act.

863
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 5: Right.

864
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: So if you're three and you try to go and

865
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 3: reach for something and your mother slaps you and says,

866
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: oh touch, that there goes your right to act. That's

867
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 3: a birthright that you have all rights to. That phase

868
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: that window is supposed to be about self gratification. Now,

869
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: this is going to get a little taboo and save it.

870
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: But I was going to say, that's also what satanism is.

871
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: Satanism is it's self gratification. A lot of people think

872
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: it's a religious thing, but it's self gratifying for the

873
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: sake of self gratifying. Now, when another birthright might be comprised.

874
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: Let's say your mother's unstable and she's on drug. So

875
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: now your right to be here and your right to

876
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: feel safe has been compromised. That's your root chopper. So

877
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: now you feel unsafe, not only in your body. She

878
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: might even abuse you. So now your body doesn't feel safe.

879
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: So you don't feel safe inside your body. You're not

880
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: allowed to act, and then you start to cry.

881
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 5: What the act you crying for?

882
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: You get beat up again. Now your right to feel

883
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: is compromised. And then you're in the corner exploring your

884
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: sexuality with your cousin. Y'all get caught and then you

885
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: get beat for that. There goes your right to feel

886
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: and to desire right. So all of these birth rights

887
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: get compromised. You repress them, and they still want to

888
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: be acted on. But for the sake of survival, be

889
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: it psychologically or emotionally or even physically, you deny yourself

890
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: for protection. That's what your subconscious mind is for, is

891
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: trying to protect you. So now here we are twenty

892
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: five years old, we still don't feel safe inside of

893
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: our body.

894
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 5: So now we have nervous conditions. Now we have anxiety.

895
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: When certain situations, environments, smell, sense trigger us, we don't

896
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: feel like we can act or speak up. That goes

897
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: into the higher chockers, that's more like adolescent teen years.

898
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 5: But it all goes.

899
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: Back to some on birthright that was compromised that our parents,

900
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: if they were conscious connected parents fully, they would have

901
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: allowed us to self gratify. That's why the terrible twos

902
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: are like, we excuse that, but every other age is

903
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: kind of like we get punished for it. But two

904
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: year olds are a living example of like they do

905
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: whatever they want. They call them demon seeds. It's like

906
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: a correlation Satanism, self gratification.

907
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 5: Demons.

908
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: They're self serving. They do what they want, when they want,

909
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: how they want. They can bite you cursed spit and

910
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, they're too but you see an adult

911
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: doing it, which is pretty much a two year old

912
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: that never got to act it out.

913
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 5: They're getting sent to a mental home.

914
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 3: Right, So shadow work and a lot of people think

915
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: that the shadow self and the inner child are different.

916
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: They are the same person.

917
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: It's just that the inner child has become so contorted

918
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: and twisted and dark that now it looks like a

919
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 3: demon or a shadow when it's really just the child

920
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: that you don't recognize anymore because you haven't allowed her

921
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: the space to feel, to act, to speak, to love,

922
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: to be loved, et cetera. So inner child work is

923
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 3: shadow work is the act of allowing that inner child

924
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 3: or that sad self to come up and holding space

925
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: for it instead of banishing it like it's a demon,

926
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 3: or instead of rejecting it like it's dangerous.

927
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 5: It's gonna feel dangerous.

928
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: But that's where where self trust and stuff is brought

929
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: back into the picture, because a lot of people are like, oh,

930
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel crazy. I got to distract myself,

931
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: or I gotta get high, I gotta drink, or I

932
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: gotta go to the club, or I gotta and you

933
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: repress it more because she just wants to be seen

934
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: or wants to be heard. But if you do it

935
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: in an unhealthy way, you develop a vice, a habit

936
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: and addiction, etc. So it's just the act of becoming

937
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 3: conscious of those things, working through them, not being afraid

938
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 3: of them, not demonizing them. Religion makes that very hard,

939
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: so nobody wants to do it because it's like, oh,

940
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: I'm possessed. You might get possessed by anger, but it's you.

941
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: It's not an outside force. It's your own mind. It's

942
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 3: your own thoughts with telekinetic beings. So our minds and

943
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: our thoughts can create energy. And if that energy is

944
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: charged up for twenty five years, that's a whole.

945
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 5: Demon right there. You charge that you created it. This

946
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 5: is yours, This is your creation. You know what I'm saying.

947
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: But people don't see it like that. And if you

948
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: study demonology and thought forms and energies.

949
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 5: That's all it is.

950
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 3: And if it gets trapped in a house because people

951
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: live there for nifty years and the house is haunted,

952
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: it's a form.

953
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 5: That's a demon. That's an energy.

954
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 2: You know, So real quick, we're just going to skip

955
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: our Oh you clatch your segment because we don't have

956
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of time with you, and we got to

957
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: dive more into this content. Can you talk about if

958
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: someone is like, okay, that resonates with me, Nicole, like,

959
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: I was denied these opportunities, you know, when I was younger,

960
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: and so I didn't get a chance to act this out.

961
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 5: And you're an.

962
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: Adult now, how do you work through how do you

963
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: face that shadow on? How do you give yourself a

964
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: chance to express those things that have been suppressed for

965
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: so long, whether it's sexually, whether it's all the different

966
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: ways that you've listed, how do you do that work?

967
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: So a lot of people are doing it and they

968
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: don't even realize it. You have to self gratify. So

969
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 3: and this is why I've I don't know if you

970
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: guys have been following me lately, but I've been attacking

971
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: the vegan community because I was a culty abusive vegan.

972
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: I've been attacking the light worker community, the conscious community,

973
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: all those communities because they're denying people their right to

974
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: self gratify. That has to happen to get over addiction.

975
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 3: That has to happen, to get over vices and habits

976
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: and things. You have to really go through it. Like

977
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: let's say you have a sugar addiction. You know what

978
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: I would do. I would eat cupcakes to the point

979
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: that I was disgusted with myself and then I would

980
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 3: feel what it was that I was running from because

981
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: I've satiated the craving, but it's not going away. So

982
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: now here I am all fat, I got icing all

983
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: over my face, I'm feeling disgusting, I'm bloated, and I

984
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: still don't feel good because I'm so I'm getting I'm

985
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: getting it all. I'm not denying myself of it. So

986
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: now I'm sitting in it, and it's like, well, do

987
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 3: you what are you running from? It's like, oh, I

988
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: don't feel safe, I don't feel happy, and you're looking

989
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: for like a dopamine release.

990
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 5: I'm not. I don't feel loved, I don't feel good.

991
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 5: I just don't feel good.

992
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: You know, there's not good feelings that happen throughout my day,

993
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 3: you know, things like that.

994
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: Or if you're just a really sexually aroused.

995
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: Person and you're like, I love sex, I say you

996
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: go have sex to the cows, come home, and then

997
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: maybe you might find a situation where you just meet

998
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: the right mate that ends up bringing specific types of

999
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: things out of you that you have to deal with.

1000
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 3: And you thought you were there for sex, blow and behold,

1001
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: you got shown to yourself so I'm not really in

1002
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: the business at least not anymore of people denying themselves

1003
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: or what they should and shouldn't do, because those are

1004
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: the things that are going to mirror us to ourselves

1005
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: and then show us.

1006
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 5: Like what it is that we're running from. Now, if

1007
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 5: you get in.

1008
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: A situation, because like I said, a lot of people

1009
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: do shadow work and they don't even know they're doing it.

1010
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't even care for the label, honestly, that's just

1011
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: for context. But you know, when you're in a situation

1012
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: and you realize, like, yo, I was in an abusive

1013
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: relationship and he was terrible, But wait, what kind of

1014
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: condition must I have been in to even attract somebody

1015
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: like that? Like how much must I not love myself

1016
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: to get a man that would really choke me out

1017
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: and try to kill me? Or if I spend all

1018
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: my money on makeup and stuff, how ugly must I

1019
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: think that I look in order to keep doing this?

1020
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's like questions, you know, asking yourself questions

1021
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 3: and when you get uncomfortable not running to distract yourself

1022
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: and sitting in it. And sitting in it is not

1023
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: a deliberate okay, this is what you do step by step.

1024
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 3: And that's why people don't like shadow work because it's

1025
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: not an exercise.

1026
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 5: It's not like a Okay, you breathe and then you do.

1027
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: Your best bet is to find somebody that does it

1028
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: with themselves all the time and get them to shaman

1029
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: you through it, because that's pretty much what a shaman is.

1030
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: They walk you through the darkest corners of your psyche,

1031
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: your soul, but sit it, not running anymore. That's if

1032
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: I have to put in a nutshell, just not running

1033
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: from the feeling, the discomfort, even the suicidal thoughts.

1034
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 5: That's my favorite one. Everybody has suicidal.

1035
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: Thoughts, but they're like, oh whoa, Like that's that's not me,

1036
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: but it is, though why are you running from it?

1037
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: Why why you denying the idea that you might not

1038
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 5: want to be here?

1039
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying and exploring that and getting

1040
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 3: into that, and it might not be an outright answer

1041
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: at first. It might just be like all feeling because

1042
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: it hasn't been felt to this full capacity.

1043
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 5: But once you.

1044
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: Really allow the feeling to flow, then certain answers will

1045
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: start to get, you know, come to you, or you

1046
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: can even ask you like you're in a child will

1047
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 3: answer you like sometimes I'll be like, well, what's I

1048
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: can feel anxiety and I'll be like, what's wrong? And

1049
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: she'll be like I want to kill everything inside? Oh

1050
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 3: whoa pump the brake says why, like, and it won't

1051
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: be a why, I just want to because she'll be irrational. Right,

1052
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: So it's not going to be because the X.

1053
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 5: That hurt, No's going to be like, nah, I'm out

1054
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 5: for blood. That's just it.

1055
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay. And then you meet it with compassion,

1056
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 3: you don't meet it with fear. You don't meet it

1057
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 3: with rejection or banishment or religion for religious programming, and

1058
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 3: then by that point this is you still, so you're

1059
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: not dealing with a separate thing. You'll start to feel

1060
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 3: more comfortable in your body, and then you might even

1061
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: start to cry, or you might answers just might start

1062
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 3: coming to you. Or certain episodes where we play that

1063
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: you thought you forgot about, but your inner shout was

1064
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: like literally start showing you like remember this, Remember that

1065
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: something you thought nothing of because you just pushed it away.

1066
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: But like, remember when that guy embarrassed you, or remember

1067
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: when they took that toy, or remember that time when

1068
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: that guy climbed into bed with you, like just those things,

1069
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: and you'll know exactly what it is that's making you

1070
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 3: feel suicidal, and you'll have more space.

1071
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 5: And then when those feelings creep up again, you'll be like.

1072
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: Oh, that's her again, and you'll be able to answer

1073
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: that call instead of you know, repressing it. So I

1074
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: would say it with just being honest about those subtle

1075
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: feelings that we think are just you know, all these

1076
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: external things, when it's really you know, this.

1077
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: Is really beautiful. You know, as I'm listening to you,

1078
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 4: it sounds like the shadow work of tapping into your

1079
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 4: inner child sounds very similar to me in terms of

1080
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: some of the work that I do with clients and therapy,

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Speaker 4: right of creating that space where you can sit with

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Speaker 4: whatever emotions are coming up and allow yourself to kind

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Speaker 4: of explore and kind of discover what are like as

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Speaker 4: you call them, like demons that are keeping you from

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Speaker 4: being your fullest, freest self.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's deep work.

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Speaker 3: And granted, I know I go on tangents here and

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Speaker 3: there about who is not doing what, but it's such

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Speaker 3: important work that I think that my emphasis is centered

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Speaker 3: around that because, like if you look at what's happening

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Speaker 3: on the news. That is a bunch of repressed shadows

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Speaker 3: acting out. They're not angry at the president and race.

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Speaker 3: They're angry about stuff that they never dealt with and

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Speaker 3: they're using that as the space. So, you know, even

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Speaker 3: when I see stuff like that, I'm like, wow, you

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Speaker 3: guys have just held this and for a long time,

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Speaker 3: and now everything's up in planes, you know, and then

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Speaker 3: there goes Hell, you know, Hell's Ballademon's like it's it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like that.

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Speaker 5: This was super fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think we've ever skipped the Oh

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Speaker 2: you clash your segments so well, I have to do

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Speaker 2: that another time, Nicole, But this was so good. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for your insight, thank you for sharing your story

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Speaker 2: and just offering a fresh perspective on I want to

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Speaker 2: say the air quote expat life right and the spiritual

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Speaker 2: journey that you've been on. We want to know where

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Speaker 2: can our listeners connect with you and what resources do

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Speaker 2: you have available for them online?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you can follow me at Nicole Ray on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: It's n I K H O l R E I

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Speaker 3: no underscore, no space. You can visit we Areorganic dot

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Speaker 3: org to explore anything that we're offering. It can from

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Speaker 3: our relocation PDF guide where we talk about immigration customs,

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Speaker 3: how to find a house, minimalism, how to avoid scams,

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Speaker 3: like the whole none, like, just the intricacies of relocating,

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Speaker 3: and you know, the basic necessities that you might stumble

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Speaker 3: across when you get here. We have how to invest

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Speaker 3: into gold because you know, everything is going digital and

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Speaker 3: if you don't have an actual natural resource here, you

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Speaker 3: might be in trouble because all that savings won't mean

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Speaker 3: anything anymore, perhaps when the dollar loses value. That's another conversation.

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Speaker 3: We also have a couple of products that we work

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Speaker 3: with or use. You can have access to those, like

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Speaker 3: copper water flasks, which are really good for health. I

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Speaker 3: know a lot of you already wear copper jewelry, but

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Speaker 3: we kind of drink it because it's one of those

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Speaker 3: those metals that the body needs. So we are organic

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Speaker 3: dot org and then you can follow my partner Organic

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Speaker 3: dot Zach. And I only say that because a lot

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Speaker 3: of you want to see the tropics, and he's always

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Speaker 3: videotaping the local communities, how they sell foods, how the

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Speaker 3: little kids are hustling. You know, fruits from their yards

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Speaker 3: and on the streets and stuff. So I don't have

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Speaker 3: too much of that on my page, but he does.

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Speaker 3: So I think that if you want to see a

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Speaker 3: day and of life and the village that we live in,

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Speaker 3: which is an indigenous village of a grief of people,

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Speaker 3: y'all might really enjoy those visuals. And then I have

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Speaker 3: a couple of services if you want to get into

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Speaker 3: things like shadow works, spirit talk. I used to do

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Speaker 3: eye readings, but I don't do them anymore, but spirit talk.

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Speaker 5: Is more which eye readings should have been.

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Speaker 3: So you get to kind of have a conversation and

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Speaker 3: ask me questions that you want clarity on. And then

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Speaker 3: it's not so much of me giving you something that

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Speaker 3: you don't know as it is me kind of shammining

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Speaker 3: you in a way towards something that you already know

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Speaker 3: but you might be blocking out or denying. So that

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Speaker 3: link is also on reorganic dot Com as well as

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Speaker 3: in my Instagram bio.

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Speaker 5: It's like a book now, but and so there's.

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Speaker 3: A couple things that you can play with, but you know,

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Speaker 3: you'd have to navigate and see like what you gravitated toward.

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Speaker 3: And we also have a blog on ten things that

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Speaker 3: quote unquote unprivileged people should know about relocating to the tropics,

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Speaker 3: like in great detail. So that's a cool blog to

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Speaker 3: check out too, on the same website.

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Speaker 5: That just is amazing. Thank you so much to quote.

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Speaker 2: Will make sure that we add links to all of

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Speaker 2: your resources in the show notes, And we just want

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Speaker 2: to thank you again for offer your time and being

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Speaker 2: with us and sharing your insight anytime, and thank you

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Speaker 2: for having me.

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Speaker 7: Hey lady, it's doctor Dom here from the Herspace podcast.

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Speaker 7: at random. Thanks for joining us today in her Space.

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Speaker 7: Please note that our show may contain conversations about self help, advice,

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Speaker 7: self empowerment, and mental health, but it is by no

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Speaker 7: means meant to be a substitute for an ongoing formal

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Speaker 7: relationship with a trained mental health provider. If you are

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Speaker 7: someone you know is in need of mental health care,

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Speaker 2: Twitter at herspace podcast or check out our website at

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Speaker 2: herspacepodcast dot com. And before we meet again, repeat after me.

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Speaker 2: Although my plans may change, I will stay committed to

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Speaker 2: my purpose.

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Speaker 7: We'll see you next week, Lady